A great trick never so well explained. A company that deals with music, which despite having an interest in selling, puts up a video teaching how to improve the sound of what you already have, show why it has so much success and growth. The focus is the sound. Congratulations Nick!
Your last comment is very important. I was doing a similar tuning technique to my snares years ago that I learned on TH-cam as “ The best snare tuning trick ever”. Unlike your advice, I left it tuned like this and I’ve bent the rim of every snare I own. I think I’ve even caused my main snare to be out of round. Therefore people, definitely do as he says, and tune it back to kind of normal before you put it back in the case.
I've never understood the benefit behind this tuning concept. In the same amount of time, you can detune all of the lugs equally thus maintaining even pressure on the bearing edge and hoop all the way around and achieve a superior deep snare sound. Am I missing something?
Yeah I was thinking the whole time that's what I would do. I never understood trying to take one or two lugs down. I suppose that if you were in a studio situation in which you needed to do it real quick but wouldn't that affect the tone and the accuracy of the tuning? I think it would be much more effective to actually spend the time to tune the snare drum lower which will yield the same result in a better more clear concise manner
Bad in my day recording with tape and dinosaurs roaming outside the studio there was a tuning that only a few seem to know the secret to, but when you heard it, it was like the snare was super thick and you could almost hear the sound move from the top head and creep down to the snares. In general they would take and tune the bottom snare head as tight as possible on the brink of ripping a hole. It was so tight it responded to just about any vibrations. Then the entire top head was completely loosened to where the head was getting wrinkled. Then they would tune the top head just tight enough to remove all the wrinkles. Now was the time to tune just tight enough to get some bounce, but had that low thump. There was a sweet spot that got the top and bottom heads to really respond to each other. Record that and the sound was BIG and your backbeats really drive the groove.
the problem with doing that on a regular basis is warping the hoop - I get a BIG fat sound using a TAMA 8x14 Walnut/Birch snare with an Evans EC Reverse Dot head...whether tuned high or low its absolutely phenomenal - BTW, that head was also on a Pearl Export EX 5x14 snare that sounded almost as fat & sassy
I gotta put this here : So every time i see this guy on video, I cant help but remember that he is 100% responsible for me loosing one of the greatest drum teacher i have ever met! That being said, It was for good reasons. He helped my former teacher get a job in asia xD. Nick is a very nice guy!
Awesome video. I really like Nick. Sweetwater made a good choice having this dude do these videos. Great player and great presenter. Bet he’s great to work with in the studio. Seems like he’s no nonsense but still got a great attitude.
Now we need Nick to show us how to get that loud crack sound out of the snare, without compromising tone or volume. A more metal sound. Granted that aluminum shells help alot with that too. Would love to hear your input on this side of it. Always learning something new Nick. KILLER!🤘
While I love This idea ... I personally would Prefer to have the Big fat snare donut ,I know me and I'll forget to re tune my snare before putting it away and messing it up ... but if I forget the dounut this right here does the trick
Cool trick - thank you for this!! Do you have any videos for tuning your toms to a particular key if its not identified on the inside of the shell like DW's?
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Just a little detuning and you've got some BIG snare sounds!
Amazing customer service always with Sweetwater 🥁
Thank you. I requested in a previous video a hot-to one Carpenter's snare sound and this looks to be how it was done.
A great trick never so well explained.
A company that deals with music, which despite having an interest in selling, puts up a video teaching how to improve the sound of what you already have, show why it has so much success and growth. The focus is the sound.
Congratulations Nick!
Your last comment is very important. I was doing a similar tuning technique to my snares years ago that I learned on TH-cam as “ The best snare tuning trick ever”. Unlike your advice, I left it tuned like this and I’ve bent the rim of every snare I own. I think I’ve even caused my main snare to be out of round. Therefore people, definitely do as he says, and tune it back to kind of normal before you put it back in the case.
That’s a good anecdote. Never even thought about that happening before but I’m going to keep that in mind.
I've never understood the benefit behind this tuning concept. In the same amount of time, you can detune all of the lugs equally thus maintaining even pressure on the bearing edge and hoop all the way around and achieve a superior deep snare sound. Am I missing something?
Yeah I was thinking the whole time that's what I would do. I never understood trying to take one or two lugs down. I suppose that if you were in a studio situation in which you needed to do it real quick but wouldn't that affect the tone and the accuracy of the tuning? I think it would be much more effective to actually spend the time to tune the snare drum lower which will yield the same result in a better more clear concise manner
Will this not give you a warped rim?
Bad in my day recording with tape and dinosaurs roaming outside the studio there was a tuning that only a few seem to know the secret to, but when you heard it, it was like the snare was super thick and you could almost hear the sound move from the top head and creep down to the snares. In general they would take and tune the bottom snare head as tight as possible on the brink of ripping a hole. It was so tight it responded to just about any vibrations. Then the entire top head was completely loosened to where the head was getting wrinkled. Then they would tune the top head just tight enough to remove all the wrinkles. Now was the time to tune just tight enough to get some bounce, but had that low thump. There was a sweet spot that got the top and bottom heads to really respond to each other. Record that and the sound was BIG and your backbeats really drive the groove.
the problem with doing that on a regular basis is warping the hoop - I get a BIG fat sound using a TAMA 8x14 Walnut/Birch snare with an Evans EC Reverse Dot head...whether tuned high or low its absolutely phenomenal - BTW, that head was also on a Pearl Export EX 5x14 snare that sounded almost as fat & sassy
I gotta put this here : So every time i see this guy on video, I cant help but remember that he is 100% responsible for me loosing one of the greatest drum teacher i have ever met! That being said, It was for good reasons. He helped my former teacher get a job in asia xD. Nick is a very nice guy!
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I prefer zero ring or old drumhead. I’ve done this before but doesn’t quite get the sound even muffling does
Awesome video. I really like Nick. Sweetwater made a good choice having this dude do these videos. Great player and great presenter. Bet he’s great to work with in the studio. Seems like he’s no nonsense but still got a great attitude.
can't wait for all the internet "geniuses" to comment how this will cause your snare to immediately explode into a million pieces
Rim will bend over time if you leave it like this.
Booomm. There it went. Lol
@@butchcassidy3373 haha someone had to..lol
The Benny Greb trick is to take a spare snare drum head, flip it upside down and place it on top of your snare - instant 70's thuddy snare sound!
Now we need Nick to show us how to get that loud crack sound out of the snare, without compromising tone or volume. A more metal sound. Granted that aluminum shells help alot with that too. Would love to hear your input on this side of it. Always learning something new Nick. KILLER!🤘
"how to tune drums on snare" - El Travoso
well shit when I loosen my head starts to wrinkle and it sounds worse so I HAVE AN ISSUE with this technique.....
While I love This idea ... I personally would Prefer to have the Big fat snare donut ,I know me and I'll forget to re tune my snare before putting it away and messing it up ... but if I forget the dounut this right here does the trick
I spend too much on my snares to risk pulling them out of round because of uneven tension on the shell.
COme on man. Stop the lies! THe key to a fat snare is the candy from Sweetwater. Can't full me.
Cool trick, I’ve used it, but prefer using an old drum head upside down. Whatever gets the job done though
Cool trick - thank you for this!! Do you have any videos for tuning your toms to a particular key if its not identified on the inside of the shell like DW's?
Sweetwater is always top notch!
-Indiana Love 🥁
I can't help but feel bad for every new teacher you had growing up trying to pronounce that last name 😁
Please tell me about the snare that Jabo uses on Same Beat. No one seems to know. Thank you.
Plis make a video about the entry level drumkit 😅
Thanks 🙃😅💯
“Phat” was retired before it came out of the womb.
Thank you for your techniques and passion Nick. You are always appreciated.
Lol I’m the 1000th view😂
45th anniversary bass drum!!!!!!!
Thanks for this!❤️❤️❤️
Great info ! Thanks!
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good post
Cool Thanks!
Where do you tune the reso head to when defining the batter head ?
Meant to say… detuning the reso head
@@dborn9675~400 Hz