The Buddha on Food and Eating

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  • What did the Buddha have to say about food and eating? I'll discuss his one important teaching on the matter, as well as look at some controversies on the topic with his monastics. Then I'll turn to some advice he had for a prominent layperson, and finally we'll consider some of the Buddha's approach to vegetarianism.
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    ✅ Video mentioned:
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    00:00 Intro
    01:09 Buddha’s only general rule
    02:59 Some more controversial rules for monastics
    08:00 Bhaddāli and eating once per day
    10:08 Assaji and Punabbasuka and eating at night
    11:53 Monastic and lay rules
    12:48 Buddha’s advice to King Pasenadi
    15:00 Anālayo’s contemporary lesson from Pasenadi’s story
    17:19 Vegetarianism in the early sangha
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  • @DougsDharma
    @DougsDharma  ปีที่แล้ว +9

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    • @leviahimsa
      @leviahimsa ปีที่แล้ว

      You mention the 5th precept with regards to food, but what about the 1st and 2nd? Spare 200+ lives from suffering every year 💖 choose vegan ✌️

  • @ardypangihutan3653
    @ardypangihutan3653 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I love how Buddha responded to questions and arguments with reasons. Buddhism definitely not a "hack & slash, shoot, explode" or "thy soul shall be damned for eternity" type of teaching.

  • @ZenTeaNow
    @ZenTeaNow ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Cool. Buddha practised intermittent fasting, OMAD (one meal a day) and hara hachi bu (Japanese for the practise of eating till 80% full). Trendsetter as always. Thank you Doug.

  • @drewopal9283
    @drewopal9283 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    My mom always taught me to eat whatever food is offered to me, now I am lucky to not have food allergies, but interesting to see my mom and the Buddha are on the same page

  • @gorgzilla1712
    @gorgzilla1712 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    As a vegan, the Buddha’s refusal to make vegetarianism a rule makes sense to me, since not all societies at the time could easily access all the nutrition they needed from plants (like in Tibet). However nowadays in the age of factory farming and widely available plant foods (in most societies, especially the West) it makes sense ethically to not partake of animal products as an ethical precept imho. Thanks for the vid!

    • @DougsDharma
      @DougsDharma  ปีที่แล้ว +12

      🙏😊

    • @catcat4697
      @catcat4697 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Given the context there is some ethically in veganism, but given you where at a barbeque and there's some leftover meat. I'd say ethically you'd be more righteous to eat that meat then it would be to eat a salad and let the meat spoil.
      Also, who are you trying to save? Are you protecting nature from nature? That doesn't even make sense, just like tofu (:

    • @gorgzilla1712
      @gorgzilla1712 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@catcat4697 I mean I agree that it’s ethically not a problem to eat meat that’s going to spoil or get thrown away if you don’t eat it. That’s what the Buddha implies in the Vinaya imo.
      As far as who I’m trying to “save” I wouldn’t use that terminology lol, all I’m trying to do is to reduce the harm I bring into the world in a way that doesn’t hurt myself and is realistically sustainable (veganism nowadays isn’t so hard to maintain). Being a vegan actually does measurably decrease the amount of animals that are killed and raised in torturous conditions. It also helps the environment in a major way, it helps reduce public health problems (chronic illnesses like heart disease but also it reduces the amount of antibiotics used and reduces the chances of new zoonotic disease outbreaks), it boycotts industries which pose threats to indigenous people, it boycotts industries that are unnecessarily dangerous for workers, etc. All of this to say that veganism helps people too, not just animals :)
      Also tofu is delicious 😎

    • @catcat4697
      @catcat4697 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@gorgzilla1712 aight, fair enough. Thanks for staying level headed, I gotta bring a better attitude next time.
      Also, my bodybuilding passion is the only thing keeping me from going fully vegan. The human body just isn't meant to consume so many beans, nuts and seeds. That said the human body isn't meant to eat 5 meals a day anyhow, but nobody is supposed to know how self destructive bodybuilding is so lets not talk about that (:

    • @gorgzilla1712
      @gorgzilla1712 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@catcat4697 oh I wasn’t catching any bad vibes from you or anything so you’re fine
      Also I’d encourage you to look up vegan bodybuilders like Patrik Baboumian and Nimai Delgado, and watch the Gamechangers documentary, it’s pretty good.

  • @enterthevoidIi
    @enterthevoidIi ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I eat once a day and I arrived there naturally, after experimenting a lot. I feel much better than before when I had 3 meals a day.

    • @catcat4697
      @catcat4697 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Intermittent fasting is like cold showers, it's something that can make everyone's life better. But I've stopped trying to convince people, it's not up to me to bring someone outside of their comfort zone.

    • @sawtoothiandi
      @sawtoothiandi ปีที่แล้ว +1

      do you find that one meal has to be bigger than the previous three, in order to get the same amount of nutrition?

    • @catcat4697
      @catcat4697 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sawtoothiandi it really depends on what you eat, and what your goals are. To me I need to get about 2700 calories to be at maintenance, and that's quite a lot to eat in 6/8 hours. So what i usually do is to start off with fatty food because it's the least satiating, then the next meal i slowly go up the glycemic index to allow some fast carbs in my diet without messing my blood sugar too much.
      But like i said, it depends on your goals. To me I'm also trying to build muscle, so between 2pm and 10 pm I eat five meals containing 20-30 grams of protein. But if the focus is completely on longevity I wouldn't eat that much protein, let alone any fast sugars. So it's to each their own I'd say, just be careful with fast sugars when coming out of a fast cause of the heightened insuline sensitivity

    • @tonyg3091
      @tonyg3091 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, it works. I the days where you are not very active physically. Try ride 150 km on a bike and it does not work as well.

    • @enterthevoidIi
      @enterthevoidIi ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@tonyg3091 i exercise every day. But sure this is for a normal lifestyle. You definitely need more food if you're biking that much

  • @drewopal9283
    @drewopal9283 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The older I get the more I have learned the power of limiting the amount of food I eat, and fasts can be really good for me, I eventually overcame hunger like I used to experience. It's helpful when the times come when you have less than you need

    • @M.Campbell
      @M.Campbell ปีที่แล้ว

      Agree. Learning to fast has been very handy. I no longer have to keep to a schedule for eating. It has given me flexibility.

  • @justinlloyd2446
    @justinlloyd2446 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I am definitely a lay person. I work a factory job so I have to eat more than just once in the morning. I lose too many calories to not. Over the last few weeks I have been changing up my diet a bit though. I eat a tremendously smaller amount of meat than I used to and when I can avoid it all together I do. I still cannot see anything wrong with eating unfertilized chicken eggs though. I have a very small amount of dairy. Like 2 ounces of milk a day for coffee but could do away with that all together. I do have to say, I feel so much better. Great video! Thank you for posting it! Have a wonderful day.

    • @Diogo1Bastos
      @Diogo1Bastos ปีที่แล้ว

      Hello Justin! Great job with your diet change 😉 keep it up

  • @williameubank2206
    @williameubank2206 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    There is a verse somewhere in which the Buddha says, "treat eating meat like you are a parent crossing the desert and your child has died, the only way to survive is to eat the child" This is a crude summary of his words and I can not recall the text but it has always stuck with me.

    • @DougsDharma
      @DougsDharma  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      🙏

    • @davidmcbride8059
      @davidmcbride8059 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's what I was hoping to find in this. Even vegan dishes are entirely life that has been killed for food. Food is a bowl of life/death. I observe both satisfaction and grief and respect to some degree in respect for those things that died probably unwillingly so that I might continue to live. This is a valuable conundrum for me in all aspects because I feel there are no binary answers in life.

  • @kieranjohnston7550
    @kieranjohnston7550 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you Doug for your timely lecture. I appreciate the organisation: previewing and using labels to make the topic explicitly clear.
    Regarding alcohol and vegetarianism, I think the prime criterion is “know yourself.” If alcohol becomes a demon for you, as it did for me for many years, then abstain completely. If the cruelty of raising and killing animals for food bothers your sense of empathy, leave it alone. I think it is important to accommodate other people’s stances, even as most people make allowances for yours.
    Where I live there are few vegetarians but people show great respect for someone who lives consistently enough to be one.

    • @DougsDharma
      @DougsDharma  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      🙏😊

    • @truth8307
      @truth8307 ปีที่แล้ว

      Now we know why certain fake God evil religion encouraged liquor with a story that their God turned water into wine, keeping their followers lose their minds.

  • @shawntco
    @shawntco ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A timely topic. I've started feeling the ill effects of my 10+ years of overeating. Time to take the Buddhist approach of letting food be a tool for health, not something to entertain myself with!

  • @oldstudent2587
    @oldstudent2587 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The ritual of eating one meal per day before noon is a cleansing ritual. Although people may do it for years, or even the rest of their lives (I have a friend who has been doing it for at least a decade after his Ayurvedic doctor prescribed it for his heart disease), it is originally something only brahmins did (as per your saying monastics only in Buddhism). It is believed to originate in the Vedic texts that led to Ayurveda.

  • @TheLouisamite
    @TheLouisamite ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you Doug, I look forward to seeing what you have to share with us, iv learned lots from you

  • @DonGaviota
    @DonGaviota หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lately I have been trying to, as a somewhat binge eater, have more control over the impulse to eat. In case somebody else is struggling with this issue, I’d like to share some tricks I have been using and have proven to be very effective (at least to me):
    Whenever I feel hungry, I focus my attention to my stomach, and in the very sensation of hunger, and ask myself if it is real hunger, as in, if I feel that emptiness in my abdomen, rumbling… or is it fake hunger, that is, your brain being anxious, or bored, and trying to convince you you are hungry, but when you actually focus on the stomach, you find that you feel full and there is no real, physical hunger.
    When I am cooking, or choosing food in a restaurant, and I feel like ordering a lot, or cooking large quantities, I ask myself: "Is this my last meal? Will I have the possibility to eat more in the near future ? "The answer (most probably) will be affirmative. In that case, there is absolutely nothing wrong with cooking or ordering less than desired, because, if you are really hungry, you can cook more, order more, or eat something else later, there is no need to fulfill all cravings at that very moment.
    I love food. I love eating. So by eating less, I find myself enjoying more. When you are hungry for real, and not just eating your anxiety or boredom away, and when eating is less frequent, food feels so much more rewarding. I love to seat and enjoy my food. Take my time, taste it, feel the textures, the smell… it is much more intense. Focus on the experience of eating itself.
    Be grateful for what you are eating. Before taking the first bite. Observe your food. Think about it. About the loved one who has put so much effort in cooking it for you. The hard work you had to put to afford it. The numerous people all around who has put sweat and work, just for that single dish. From the farmers cultivating the pepper, the fungi, the workers in the processing plant, all the people who has to work and all the time it has taken for you to have that pasta in front of you. And sadly, how fortunate you are for being able to enjoy it, being people who cannot afford that luxury. Realising how much work and industry goes into a single meal, how hard you have to work to buy it, the time it took to cook it, the animals that were sacrificed for it… whatever you want to be grateful about that food. It makes you enjoy it much more, and develops a sort of "respect" for what you eat.
    I hope these tricks can help other people as they have helped me.
    Also, being from a Mediterranean country, I choose to believe that Buddha was against drunkenness and not the act of consuming alcohol, because I am nowhere near the point of the path where I can happily resign from a cup of wine on the weekends while eating lunch. 😂

    • @DougsDharma
      @DougsDharma  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for your suggestions! 🙏

  • @soezone208
    @soezone208 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks, Doug, Great video as usual.

  • @tonyg3091
    @tonyg3091 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It would be nice if people concentrate on aspects of Lord Buddha’s teachings far mote important than eating. Of which there are great many.
    Thanks for mentioning Donapaka Sutta.

  • @stewartreid2981
    @stewartreid2981 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you Doug 🙏

  • @yogikarl
    @yogikarl ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Maybe the earliest proponent of interval fasting

  • @Samgurney88
    @Samgurney88 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks Doug for bringing the Bhaddālisutta to my attention, and for your informative commentary. 🙏🏻
    The Bhaddālisutta is interesting. Initially I thought that perhaps Bhaddāli was concerned that his hunger would enhance his appetite, and that his concern was that his tranquility might be disturbed by sensory pleasure. Unfortunately I don’t speak Pāli, but having looked at a number of translations* I no longer think this interpretation can be sustained. It seems that Bhaddāli was simply being obstinately wilful and was afraid of the discomfort of fasting half the time.
    I was also surprised at the "tongue lashing" you described the Buddha as having given. Of course, it is comparatively mild, but it is still a clear assertion of authority from the Buddha. This itself is instructive. I think it shows that the Buddha was a shrewd and skilled administrator: he knew that the Sangha needed structured organisation to avoid antagonising the laity, and that his disciples also needed to trust in his guidance both for their own progression and in order to preserve his teachings intact. From other accounts of the Buddha’s interactions with those of differing philosophical viewpoints I do not get the impression that the Buddha was domineering in a dogmatic sense (although, rather like Plato’s accounts of Socrates’ dialogues, the hero of the dialogue always seems to beat his opponent, sometimes with slightly suspect logic). But the Buddha was practical. In the Bhaddālisutta he understood what Bhaddāi’s motives for defying him were, and that they were neither wholesome for him nor for the Sangha - hence the reprimanding. The Buddha concludes his gentle reproach: “But since you have recognized your mistake for what it is, and have dealt with it properly, I accept it. For it is growth in the training of the Noble One to recognize a mistake for what it is, deal with it properly, and commit to restraint in the future.“
    * Christians and Muslims have done a great job of making their scriptures available online. There are some excellent “parallel” Bibles which allows the user to see multiple translations at once, and to see the original text alongside a word-by-word English lexicon. Does anyone know if anything similar is available for Buddhist texts? Would there be much interest if anyone were to put something like this together, or would it appeal to too small a niche?

    • @DougsDharma
      @DougsDharma  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for your input here. As for translations, Sutta Central allows you to view side by side Pāli and English, with links to translations in several other languages if they are available.

  • @samirjadhav578
    @samirjadhav578 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nammo buddhai Dough ,I must admit you are doing a very nobel work of spreading the dhamma ,your Dana paramita is getting you fame ,regards with metta .

  • @sjferguson
    @sjferguson 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very interesting topic. My current teacher has said that everyone must choose their own path and he is very mindful of modern dietary concerns such as diabetic issues or people undergoing cancer treatments who might need more nutrients (meat). I myself no longer buy meat for myself but my son still eats meat on occasion. I don't actively go out and order meat as most restaurants have vegetarian menu items. As an example, i found myself out running errands a few days ago and I had skipped breakfast and i was beginning to see signs of some hunger related issues 😊 i stopped at two different little establishments and no one had just potato and eggs (street tacos). On my third attempt all they had was potato, egg, and sausage. Done. I ate it, i was thankful and mindful, and it was delicious 😊 Bottom line, for me, i'm mindful about meat but if it happens, it happens and we all have to walk this path based on individual needs.

    • @DougsDharma
      @DougsDharma  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      🙏😊

  • @natividadfamiliapereyra3742
    @natividadfamiliapereyra3742 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks a lot.....this was a great teachin/explanation

  • @paulomoreira995
    @paulomoreira995 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    outstanding as always ;-)

    • @DougsDharma
      @DougsDharma  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you so much 😀

  • @wintershogun2696
    @wintershogun2696 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    amazing video again. i am learning so much about buddhism, even though i am a buddhist, you explain things in such a great manner.. i was also curious on buddha's stance on vegetarianism, since i read it somewhere that buddha died cause he ate bad pork meat(correct me if i am wrong).

    • @DougsDharma
      @DougsDharma  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes, the translation of it in English is something like "Pig's delight" which could be pork, or could be something that pigs like eating, such as mushrooms. Impossible to say for sure what it was, but it could have been pork.

    • @markantrobus8782
      @markantrobus8782 ปีที่แล้ว

      It could have been toxic mushrooms

    • @truth8307
      @truth8307 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Buddha discouraged harming animals but he did not say one need to be a vegetarian, unlike Jainism.

  • @JotaTondi
    @JotaTondi ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Since I've been eating junk food a little often... and my habit with alcohol was not really healthy, I needed to find a way to redirect my lifestyle to a better one (of course). So.. going back to the gym is a practice that helps to be connected to my core values and what I really want in my life.
    What I mean is that.. eating healthy for the sake of it just doesn't work.. we all need something bigger that lead us to have discipline and responsibility with food and everything else that is also "food".
    What I like about buddhist teachings is how "harsh" it is.. it's not like "yeah.. well... you can eat less of it" it's more "no.... if it's bad for you.. just cut it off cold turkey" it's "harsh" but it also makes sense. Scientists say we need to slowly quit bad habits but some people like me.. well.. maybe we need something more drastic.
    Maybe it's not fully related to the video but I just have these thoughts

    • @DougsDharma
      @DougsDharma  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sure, if it works for you, then go for it!

    • @truth8307
      @truth8307 ปีที่แล้ว

      How is Buddha's teachings "harsh"? I think you misunderstood Buddha's teachings or I misunderstood you

    • @JotaTondi
      @JotaTondi ปีที่แล้ว

      @@truth8307 you misunderstood me

    • @truth8307
      @truth8307 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JotaTondithen explain why you say Buddhism is harsh. As much as I know, Buddhism never prohibited homosex or divorce, given full freedom on relationship, unlike Christianity.

    • @JotaTondi
      @JotaTondi ปีที่แล้ว

      @@truth8307 I didn't say buddhism IS harsh, I said buddhism may seem harsh considering how monks live and how the western culture is. That difference or contrast is harsh, by harsh I mean the feeling of how drastic is the culture of a monk. In terms of secular buddhism, it can be also felt like such a drastic change is harsh and it's hard to practice certain thing but certainly not impossible. Probably "harsh" wasn't the best choice of word but now you know what I meant.

  • @Kungfu12345
    @Kungfu12345 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    awesome video. 😊 .

  • @nsbd90now
    @nsbd90now ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yeah... you _know_ there was that one monk walking back and forth in front the sweets shop that led to some of the rules. lol!

  • @TheSlickMachine
    @TheSlickMachine ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "No more pork stew." -the Tathagata

  • @DarthRyueken
    @DarthRyueken ปีที่แล้ว

    Initially starting my buddhist journey in the Mahayana school, I was told that vegetarism was basically required and I followed that rule for over 6 years faithfully.
    Having matured since then and having studied the historical Pali canon and reading about Devatta the Buddhas cousin who sought to divide the Sangha with "higher" practices....
    I have abandoned vegetarianism, sure i think the concept is noble in principle but the reality of Samsara is that countless sentient beings are killed in the process of growing vegetables.
    Do not kill. That's the precept.

  • @jino139
    @jino139 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Today I saw the video of a small chicken standing in a very small piece of metal inside of machine designed to dispose of them.
    I feel deeply saddened by the fact that I need to eat living beings that are slaughtered in such a way.

  • @Peter-Godman
    @Peter-Godman ปีที่แล้ว +2

    8:05 .....I have seen "living comfortably" translated as "pleasant abiding"
    is pleasant abiding an accurate translation?

    • @DougsDharma
      @DougsDharma  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think that's one way this is translated, yes.

  • @johnburman966
    @johnburman966 ปีที่แล้ว

    The real relationship between the monk and community is that of the natural order. Meditation produces deep stillness, reducing disorder in nature, restores balanced seasons. The community feeds( the bodies of the monks) in return. This is an ideal society which existed at one time. The Buddha is not a person, it is a system of Buddhas.

  • @rahult1518
    @rahult1518 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think food as a proxy for desire and attachment sounds like , any attachment to it or a rule might be toxic. If you ease into non attachment to food , i believe would give one a sense of supplement and naturally lead to clean healthy non violent choices

    • @DougsDharma
      @DougsDharma  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, I think many of us have a powerful attachment to food.

  • @anupnishanrao7767
    @anupnishanrao7767 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    sir please read "buddha and his dhamma" and " karl marx vs buddha " by dr babasaheb ambedkar humble request 🙏🙏🙏

    • @DougsDharma
      @DougsDharma  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes I did a video on Dr. Ambedkar: th-cam.com/video/qlH_qieCgCA/w-d-xo.html

  • @gentanaka998
    @gentanaka998 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the once a day thing is likely because it minimizes the amount of time during the day when your brain is clouded by eating and digestion. they need that clear mind as much as possible for the path right?

    • @DougsDharma
      @DougsDharma  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, I think that's probably the basic point.

  • @user-ic4ce8xb5v
    @user-ic4ce8xb5v ปีที่แล้ว +1

    🙏

  • @moegyi7455
    @moegyi7455 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    🙏🙏🙏

    • @DougsDharma
      @DougsDharma  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      🙏😊

  • @truth1615
    @truth1615 ปีที่แล้ว

    💖Avoid toxicants means avoid anything that is not good for your body including things you ingest. If it's not good for your body don't eat it or drink it.

    • @DougsDharma
      @DougsDharma  ปีที่แล้ว

      Well it's actually "intoxicants", that is things that intoxicate us, that is, that cause us to lose control of our reason and moral faculties. In the early texts the words used are actually words for alcoholic drinks.

  • @elleh3495
    @elleh3495 ปีที่แล้ว

    i think its hard to compare our food with food pre-industrialization. Those monastics in his time never had to
    navigate modern grandma's pie made with hydrogenated oil crust, corn syrup and canned fruit and refined bleached white sugar. Today it seems more apt to think about Buddhist principles of bodycare in relation to harmful foods.

    • @DougsDharma
      @DougsDharma  ปีที่แล้ว

      Well the Buddha's experiences at the end of his life give reason to think there were harmful foods during his time as well. 🙂

  • @drewopal9283
    @drewopal9283 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have found the most ethical way to eat is to rescue food that otherwise would go in the waste stream. It saves the planet from carbon emissions in landfills and helps people in need eat when you give away the extras

    • @DougsDharma
      @DougsDharma  ปีที่แล้ว

      Eat your leftovers! 😄

  • @middlewayers
    @middlewayers ปีที่แล้ว

    Not eating at night.. eating at one portion in the morning..
    Doug do you practice in life?

    • @DougsDharma
      @DougsDharma  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      As a layperson, I don't practice these, which are intended for monastics. But I do find them interesting to contemplate.

  • @budtoo
    @budtoo 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It is not like begging. Beggars not giving anything in return. And also bhikku never ask for food. They will be outside until you see them if not they will leave. Now Buddhist communities lay people bring food-and utilities to monasteries and in return they will give dharma, help charities by donations and help funerals to have good next birth.

    • @DougsDharma
      @DougsDharma  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Well the Pāli word for a monastic, "bhikkhu", literally means "beggar". But yes, there are key differences in the case of monastics, who teach the dharma.

  • @xiaomaozen
    @xiaomaozen ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I live vegan in order to minimize harm and suffering. But I absolutely dislike the missionary zeal and bigotry many vegans exhibit. Anyway, that's another topic. 😂 Thanks, Doug! 😊🙏

    • @DougsDharma
      @DougsDharma  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      🙏😊

    • @freetibet1000
      @freetibet1000 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Actually I think you touched on a very important subject here. For a Buddhist practitioner whatever give rise to pride and righteousness in our minds should be abandoned. Why? Pride is one of those things that is being warned about since it derails us from the path of understanding. It has the nasty effect of making us blind to our own faults and limitations. If, in our practice, we abandon habits that we think are harmful to ourselves and others but in the process develop pride and arrogance for our [small] achievements we may end up with a bigger obstacle than before our practice began. Therefor, I believe that the middle path of no extremes is a good one since it doesn’t make us stand out in any significant ways. -Not in our own minds and not in the minds of others either.
      Having said that, I very much appreciate your concern for living beings and your choice to go vegan for the sake of protecting lives. Most commendable attitude, in my opinion!
      At the end of the day what’s going on our minds is all that matters.

    • @xiaomaozen
      @xiaomaozen ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@freetibet1000
      Thank you for your comment, my friend. May you be well... 😊🙏

    • @freetibet1000
      @freetibet1000 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@xiaomaozen 🙏🙏🙏

    • @tonyg3091
      @tonyg3091 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wish all the vegans were like you

  • @winterpurple4587
    @winterpurple4587 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm a longtime Buddhist and the thing to know about Buddhist diet is this:
    1. Monks go on daily alms round and they eat whatever is given to them. Beggars can't be choosers, so yes even monks eat meat when that's what's given to them.
    2. Vegetarianism does not equate to non-killing of animals. UNLESS you grow your own vegetables (which is extremely impractical or near impossible for a working city person). Otherwise, it's just as worse because Vegetable farms use insecticides to kill scores of insects that feed on their vegetation. By supporting vegetables in the market you are indirectly supporting the killing of millions of insects.
    3. The Middle Path also applies to a Buddhist's diet. Eating only vegetables is one extreme, just as eating only meat is another. The Middle Path is the Way.

  • @deioped
    @deioped ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Buddha was doing intermittent fasting before IF was even a thing lmao

    • @DougsDharma
      @DougsDharma  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, true! I think it even preceded him.

  • @MassiveLib
    @MassiveLib ปีที่แล้ว

    The body is another phenomena in mind just as a big mac is. It's hard to reconcile modern Buddhism with the truth of Buddhas teachings.

  • @sameerkhatana2993
    @sameerkhatana2993 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lord Buddha's message was about suffering and the end of suffering. In the context of food the stress is on minimal intake required to keep the body going. Modern medical science has proved the effects of intermittent fasting and the spiritual benefits in terms of meditation experience. Buddha's message was Universal, he didn't restrict the teachings to vegetarian societies. In Tibet - meat & dairy is one of the staples available all round the year. In vinaya there are restrictions on eating raw meat, uncooked dry fish pickles etc.

    • @djsteel56
      @djsteel56 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not just meat and dairy, in Tibet Tsampa (cooked Barley in butter is also a main staple available year-round.)

  • @Masterlu-vs2gg
    @Masterlu-vs2gg ปีที่แล้ว

    It's not about tge vegetarianism or not, it's about not to forbid vegetarianism or forbid meat eating...

  • @naingwin4367
    @naingwin4367 ปีที่แล้ว

    please with photo and may good

  • @TheWayOfRespectAndKindness
    @TheWayOfRespectAndKindness ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks Doug.🙏🏼 Buddha understood that each person has different nutritional needs. When he said what works for him, he was suggesting that each person be aware of their own nutritional needs and eat accordingly. The view that we should all eat exactly the same way is a false dharma.

  • @kachi2782
    @kachi2782 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are what you eat. I eat like a rabbit and have the same libido so this works for me !

  • @sameerkhatana2993
    @sameerkhatana2993 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "Alcohol and other intoxicants that lead to carelessness ". As per a research done on criminal behaviour ( more specifically homicide) in the USA - 90% of the acts of the crime were done under the influence of alcohol. If not for the drunken state then extreme acts of crime couldn't have happened.

    • @Tridib_Tinkel
      @Tridib_Tinkel ปีที่แล้ว

      Thats the exact reason Buddha said to be careful about intoxicant as it makes us lose senses

    • @wonder_platypus8337
      @wonder_platypus8337 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Tridib_Tinkel More specifically that our minds are cloudy enough without the confusion added by intoxicants.

    • @anomalousresult
      @anomalousresult ปีที่แล้ว

      But most people who get drunk aren't criminals, so maybe it's OK?

    • @wonder_platypus8337
      @wonder_platypus8337 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@anomalousresult it's not about being a criminal. It's about having control over your own mind. Something hard enough without added confusion.

    • @kieranjohnston7550
      @kieranjohnston7550 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The problem is not just alcohol, but chronic, widespread anger and resentment: the rabid dogs in the cellar. Alcohol doesn’t open the door, it removes the lock so that the anger can open the door. Even without alcohol the dogs will bust out eventually. People without dogs in the cellar drink peacefully.

  • @tomjensen618
    @tomjensen618 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jeshua ben Joseph was a heavy drinker of red wine.

    • @tonyg3091
      @tonyg3091 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      LOL dunno about heavy but for sure he had unlimited supply…😂😂

  • @kitkat6959
    @kitkat6959 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I was vegetarian for buddhist reasons for about 3 years, until it began causing physical detriments to my health. After some mental turmoil I did some research into this topic and upon finding that the Buddha was not strictly vegetarian made me feel better about having some meat every so often. I feel that I had been not taking the Middle Path and was attached to the idea of being a "good" buddhist.

    • @DougsDharma
      @DougsDharma  ปีที่แล้ว

      🙏

    • @tonyg3091
      @tonyg3091 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well look at it from a different angle-if you keep feeding your body on stuff it doesnt agree with and is detrimental for it, you will die without having made any progress down the Path. That’s silly.

  • @perfectsims
    @perfectsims ปีที่แล้ว

    We do know however that the first great schism in Buddhism ☸️ is over Condiments and food. If it was permissible to keep condiments as a follower of the Buddha in the Buddhist time then later after the Buddha the great schism happened whether or not different schools could keep condiments overnight

    • @perfectsims
      @perfectsims ปีที่แล้ว

      📌☸️ Buddhists Historical knowledge

    • @perfectsims
      @perfectsims ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree with those sentiments about alcohol 🍺 EXEPT for your knowledge about Tantric schools 🏫 are not required for this rule you have stated. And your completely ignoring Tibetans religious practices and beliefs. Especially the line of Shambhala in the west

    • @perfectsims
      @perfectsims ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/80jGSadccmY/w-d-xo.html
      This entire school 🏫 is actually not included in your assessment nor is the previous schools 🏫 of his linage. If you do some research 🔬 however you will quickly get your convoluted questions answer. SUNWUKONG…please do get a library 📚 card Doug for your DARMHA EDUCATION. Having an opinion is amazing. Is it your personal DARMHA or are you a DARMA teacher. Clearly not but your understanding of Buddhism is very eager but not terribly vast

    • @perfectsims
      @perfectsims ปีที่แล้ว

      So Tantric Sexual Practices cannot be a monastic order ? In your DARMHA fantasy

    • @perfectsims
      @perfectsims ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s unfortunate for every Tantric SCHOOL 🏫 then

  • @michaelhanford8139
    @michaelhanford8139 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There are plenty of adult versions of play grounds to work things out...choose the other emotionally developerly stunted ppl & you'll be fine, go play😎
    - a late bloomer

  • @RaleighsKitchen
    @RaleighsKitchen ปีที่แล้ว

    Ethically speaking due to controversions of Veganism and Vegetariasm, i myself for the modern World see a solution to monastic people who dont know wich diet to follow is to grow your own food.
    Even if you want to safe animals or the natur its a contridiction in itself because technicly speaking natur consums itself in its self just like existenz exist in its own existence, so even if you're vegan Tofu is not saving the enviorment nor do any other plant's who are grown by huge company's or farmer's to feed the population. Im a chef my profession requires me to indulge in that matter so even if it says its fair trade or bio doesent actually make it ethical. If you're mindful about eating, growing your own food is for a Western the best solution to take care of your health body and mind in the most ethical way. So youre not in a position to do that right now but consider to make it possible if youre vegan after all its your priority so i myself make my ideology possible to perceive.

  • @sca8217
    @sca8217 ปีที่แล้ว

    Here's the thing:
    In Buddhism, as in Sanatana Dharma, the priority was to do the least harm, and lead a life that does not impose karma on the world and the self. After all, unless you are willing to take Sanyasa all the way to death, you need food to survive and breath to live. The best way to do this, nutritionwise, is to eat anything that was procured with the least amount of violence.
    Which means, either procure something that causes the least harm to the animal/plant from which it it procured or to consume that which no one else would , meaning , that which will be thrown away anyways. Hence the practice of Bhikshuki,. Meaning begging for food. Anything given by a donor, which has been procured with the least amount of violence , is essentially scrubbed of karma, because in consuming it, you are not attaching any desire.
    Vedic traditions have division of food into categories, of which Satvik food is the one that nourishes the body without accumulating too much karma. Thus, fruits, berries ( of which the seeds can be returned to earth for growing again), leaves , vegetables or grain obtained without actually killing the plant , letting it propagate. There are days in every week on which a devout dharmic grihastha individual would limit food intake and type of food consumed, so as to stay in touch with practices that would help to lead to moksha in the Sanyasa phase.
    These food habits have profound philosophies behind them , promote good health and are overall good for every creature and the Earth.

  • @euginevcaugustine1763
    @euginevcaugustine1763 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why can't these guys grow food themselves, for self sustenance ?

    • @DougsDharma
      @DougsDharma  ปีที่แล้ว

      The monastic rules forbid it.

    • @mongalplays2212
      @mongalplays2212 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Even growing vegetables also you need to kill animals, insect directly or indirectly that so why buddha forbid it.

  • @yogikarl
    @yogikarl ปีที่แล้ว

    You may wish to learn the pronunciation of those Dharma words

  • @alastairmcbricky3456
    @alastairmcbricky3456 ปีที่แล้ว

    One meal a day?? we've all seen his belly! the Buddha was a secret eater.

    • @DougsDharma
      @DougsDharma  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Probably you're thinking of the Chinese Budai, which is actually a different icon, not the Buddha.

    • @alastairmcbricky3456
      @alastairmcbricky3456 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DougsDharma yeah I am actually lol I love Buddhism for its ability to not be so offended by casual ignorance

  • @saralamuni
    @saralamuni ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The right time to eat is before noon.

  • @provenancekazu
    @provenancekazu ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Be vegan to not cause suffering

    • @drewopal9283
      @drewopal9283 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wish I could afford to be vegan, wish vegan didn't mean eating food grown from rain forest deforestation.

  • @jacobjorgenson9285
    @jacobjorgenson9285 ปีที่แล้ว

    Some of the most loving and generous people I known are meat eaters and some of the most judgemental elitist people I know are vegan 🤷‍♂️

  • @bonniematthews7611
    @bonniematthews7611 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gosh, I have a hard time getting through Doug's videos. While the information he presents is presumably accurate, his delivery is flat, dry, verbose, pedantic, and frankly, BORING. I want to enjoy his presentations, but I get the sense his expertise is mainly academic, that he doesn't fully embody the teachings with mindfulness, heart, and compassion. The power in Buddhism isn't in knowledge, per se; it's in the PRACTICE, in personal transformation. I don't dislike Doug; he just lacks self-awareness of how he comes across, how he might incorporate more heart in personal practice and presentations.

    • @DougsDharma
      @DougsDharma  ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry to hear it! For sure, my approach isn’t for everyone. There are plenty of other folks out there teaching about Buddhism, probably one of them would be better suited to what you’re looking for. 🙏🙂

  • @thedarkmoon2341
    @thedarkmoon2341 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you talk without your hands?

  • @thomaserickson568
    @thomaserickson568 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like lots of candy. Sees chocolate candy is really good.