Thanks for the video. Unfortunately, you forgot to use exposure compensation in the Fuji X-100VI and the pictures are underexposed. The last line of the recipe says "Exposure compensation: +2/3 to +1 (typical)". Still a very interesting video, please keep it up!
Thank you for your kind words and yes, like you said I missed using the exposure compensation dial, although I have read it :D. And a lot of comments here saying the same thing. But during shooting I keep forgetting it, since I'm sill new to Fuji recipes. I will pin your comment to make it more visible what I missed here on my attempt. Thanks again for the hint and your time watching!
Terrific test. I have to say I am glad I have a Nikon Zf on order. You did a fabulous job of showing off the superb consistent colour dynamics of each camera. I must admit that I was very impressed with the Nikon shots - every one was a winner.
Very interesting comparison video, Phil. My own X100VI has not arrived yet but I am going to try your experiment with my own kit; Nikon Zf, Fuji X-T5 and Nikon FM film camera and a film like Velvia. Thanks for putting such a great idea out there.
Glad you enjoyed this new idea I had :) I think I might do another comparison with protea or Kodak TriX. It was fun having the comparison, but it was a bit bulky carrying three cameras to shoot the comparison images 😀 Thank you as usual for tuning in and watching! And hope your X100VI will arrive soon:)
Thank you for your kind words! Yes, I did a previous video where I explain how you can install colour profiles / presets aka film sim on Nikon cameras like the Zf. You'll find it on my channel or via this link: th-cam.com/video/Xz_lEFNbMDM/w-d-xo.html
Wow, looks like the ZF matches much closer to the actual film whereas the X100 recipe was a bit too warm or just underexp. I'm sure it can be dialed in further.
As some already mentioned I messed up regarding the exposure compensation, but I also found the Fuji is a bit warmer. I think there are more variation of the recipe where you can decrease the warm tone. Thank you for your time watching!
@IntrovertAmateur no, for me personally, the whole point of these retro cameras is to stay away from the computers and setup these simulations in camera. Anyways have found a few doing that.
Thank you so much for your kind words and your time watching! My Provia roll arrived today and I'm planning to do the same comparison with it, since Provia is a Fuji film stock. But I have also some Nikon video ideas in mind :) Thanks again!
I appreciate all the time this must have taken to do comparison. All though im sure plenty would wish they had this much cameras to have a real comparison, the post processing job was allot of work. Thanx for the video :)
Thank you very much for your kind words! And your time watching! I'm still in the process of getting these videos out and do my best to improve step by step :)
Turns out I messed up by forgetting to remember the exposer comp settings and dial it in during the shoot, like a lot of people are mentioning here :') Definitely my fault, will do better next time. Still thank you very much for your time watching!
Thank you so much for your kind words! It's funny how different the availability of film stock is in different countries. Thank you for your time watching!
Good comparison, interesting... As you said the film itself depends on many parameters as the camera, the lens, the metering of light, the lab, the paper, etc... and getting close to any film is just kind of arbitrary. What could make sense to me is how close do you get to the reality or even better to the result you're expecting or to your initial intention. What I like in film simulations is the ability to minimize the time I spend in post processing (LR).
Many people, including this author, fail to understand that most Fujifilm recipes requires the usage of the exposure compensation dial. The recipes clearly stated the ranges that works best when taking a shot. Many people simply leaves the dial at 0 and treat their X100VI as a point and click camera. The point of the camera is to slow down and use the dials when needed.
Hey sehr cool, du bist aus Esslingen ☺️😎🤌🏼, coole street Fotos. Find alle von den Farben her schön, aber die fujifilm Farben echt am besten ❤. Machst du nur Street?
Vielen lieben Dank für deine Worte! :) Ich beschäftige mich hauptsächlich mit verschiedenen Kameras, die ich interessant finde (meist eher Spielerei, wenn ich ehrlich bin) und bei der Fotografie bin ich aktuell hauptsächlich in Street unterwegs. Portaits / Dokumentation mache ich nur im Kreis der Familie, aber die veröffentliche ich nicht :) Nochmals danke für das Einschalten und deinen Kommentar :)
Agree, but I think in general everything, which makes an image look different. E.g current "hype" on mist filter looks or how Ricoh marketing calls it HDF or the not ending promotion of LUTs. Thank you for your time watching!
I like the comparisons but not enough time is shown for each image. I liked Nikon ZF the least. Preferred Fuji x100vin most with the film camera coming 2nd
Fair point, thank you for your feedback. I always struggle how much time I should display each image, since I always think if it is too long people might think I artificially stretch the video. And I thought people would pause to have a closer look. But your feedback is valid and I will improve on this in my future videos. Thanks again and for your time watching!
Underexposure aside, the Fuji seems too warm and the Nikon not warm enough if the objective is to match the film. I suppose you can adjust both of these.
Yes I also find the recipe of the Fuji too warm and will check for alternatives, since I like the film stock. Thank you very much for your time watching! Much appreciated!
It really looks nice and you can tweak it to your personal preference. And it's much cheaper to try things compared to film :) Thank you for your time watching!
Comparing/evaluating the images in the video sequence was not easy. It would have been nice, for example, to show the portrait format photos side by side at the same time. I actually liked the analog images best as analog images. The images from the Zf could be recognized directly as digital images, but the were nice. I found the images from the X100VI to be bad and too “yellowish”. I don't use film simulations myself. Either I take photos on film or I edit my pictures on the computer and give them “my” look. This is part of my creative process.
I really liked the actual gold film and the nikon was the closest. The fuji is way too warm. I have at home an xe4 used by my wife, i like playing mainly with classic or neg chrome but in the end i always come back to the raw raf files and edit them.
I recently also started to edit some of my Fuji images, but having the film sims is for me quite a good starting point. Thank you for watching and sharing your experience!
Great point and definitely a purchase which is on my list, since I want to use my Leica M lenses on the Zf, because of the manual focus feature on the Zf. Thank you for tuning in and your time watching!
To make the Fujifilm recipes work, most require you to use the exposure compensation dial to maximize their effectiveness. Most recipes have a +/- 1-3 stops that works best. Otherwise you end up with lots of under/over exposed pictures like in this video. 😂
Yes I messed up by forgetting to remember the exposer comp settings and dial it in during the shoot, like a lot of people are mentioning here - although I have read it on the recipe page :') Definitely my fault, will do better next time. Still thank you for your time watching!
You state that the film images were "unedited" but that is a silly statement: you scanned the film to bring it into the digital space for this exercise. By scanning the negative, you submit it to the default "development" settings offered by your specific scanner (hardware and software). There is no "unedited" in any of this anyway: the recipes used in camera are also "edits", even if they stay in default mode (meaning you do not tweak the recipe someone else marketed to you). Plus, as you say, the film also depends on development procedures, and so do the lab prints. And finally "Kodacolor 200" in 2024 has very little to do with Kodacolor 200 of, say, 1995. The whole "film simulations" thing is just an exercise in jpeg effects designed to degrade the quality of near "perfect" digital images and try to make them pass as lo-fi badly stored shoebox prints . So weird.
Film simulations is a marketing term invented by Fujifilm to refer to the colour profiles. You seem to be the kind of person who knows what colour profiles are, so I won't explain it to you. I do not agree that Fuji's aim with their film simulations (colour profiles) was to degrade the quality of the photographs. The default film simulation in Fuji's cameras is Provia, which aims to get true colours. Other film simulations, such as Astia, Pro Neg Std and Pro Neg Hi, tweak the colours and contrast in a very tasteful way. In fact, some film simulations, such as Classic Chrome and Classic Negative, try to achieve indeed the look of old magazines and old photos in a box, respectively. But one must admit that certain photos really benefit from using this colour profile! I think what you are referring to when you say "hi-lo badly stored shoebox print" are Film Recipes, which are in-camera edits applied over a Film Simulation. I agree with you that most of them, like this Kodak Gold 200, are a bit heavy-handed and their main goal is to make an image look imperfect. But that's the trend now, whether we like it or not. So from one pedantic person to another, don't put all Film Simulations in the same box as Film Recipes ;-)
![🔴 ฟุตบอลแชมป์กีฬา 7HD แชมเปียน คัพ 2024 [รอบรองชนะเลิศ]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/zPm8ClLVhoE/mqdefault.jpg)
Thanks for the video. Unfortunately, you forgot to use exposure compensation in the Fuji X-100VI and the pictures are underexposed. The last line of the recipe says "Exposure compensation: +2/3 to +1 (typical)". Still a very interesting video, please keep it up!
Thank you for your kind words and yes, like you said I missed using the exposure compensation dial, although I have read it :D. And a lot of comments here saying the same thing.
But during shooting I keep forgetting it, since I'm sill new to Fuji recipes.
I will pin your comment to make it more visible what I missed here on my attempt.
Thanks again for the hint and your time watching!
Terrific test. I have to say I am glad I have a Nikon Zf on order. You did a fabulous job of showing off the superb consistent colour dynamics of each camera. I must admit that I was very impressed with the Nikon shots - every one was a winner.
Very interesting comparison video, Phil. My own X100VI has not arrived yet but I am going to try your experiment with my own kit; Nikon Zf, Fuji X-T5 and Nikon FM film camera and a film like Velvia. Thanks for putting such a great idea out there.
Glad you enjoyed this new idea I had :)
I think I might do another comparison with protea or Kodak TriX. It was fun having the comparison, but it was a bit bulky carrying three cameras to shoot the comparison images 😀
Thank you as usual for tuning in and watching!
And hope your X100VI will arrive soon:)
Maybe I missed a video somewhere, is there a video showing how to set up ZF film simulation? Well done!
Thank you for your kind words! Yes, I did a previous video where I explain how you can install colour profiles / presets aka film sim on Nikon cameras like the Zf.
You'll find it on my channel or via this link:
th-cam.com/video/Xz_lEFNbMDM/w-d-xo.html
First video about comparing simulations on different systems, very good
Thank you for your kind words as always :)
Wow, looks like the ZF matches much closer to the actual film whereas the X100 recipe was a bit too warm or just underexp. I'm sure it can be dialed in further.
As some already mentioned I messed up regarding the exposure compensation, but I also found the Fuji is a bit warmer. I think there are more variation of the recipe where you can decrease the warm tone.
Thank you for your time watching!
Was hoping for a in camera setting. Looking for something like this without having to go to a computer to do it.
Are you looking for computer setting for the Nikon camera system? For Fuji it is possible to set everything up on the computer.
@IntrovertAmateur no, for me personally, the whole point of these retro cameras is to stay away from the computers and setup these simulations in camera. Anyways have found a few doing that.
hi, can you share what is the best white balance settings to achieve film-like photos?
I'm not sure if it is the best, but I mostly use daylight white balance.
Thank you for watching!
Nice comparison, really enjoying your channel and would love to see more comparisons in the future.
Thank you so much for your kind words and your time watching!
My Provia roll arrived today and I'm planning to do the same comparison with it, since Provia is a Fuji film stock. But I have also some Nikon video ideas in mind :)
Thanks again!
I appreciate all the time this must have taken to do comparison. All though im sure plenty would wish they had this much cameras to have a real comparison, the post processing job was allot of work. Thanx for the video :)
Thank you very much for your kind words! And your time watching! I'm still in the process of getting these videos out and do my best to improve step by step :)
why did you underexposed the x100vi?
Turns out I messed up by forgetting to remember the exposer comp settings and dial it in during the shoot, like a lot of people are mentioning here :')
Definitely my fault, will do better next time.
Still thank you very much for your time watching!
@@IntrovertAmateurdon’t worry you did an awesome job ❤️
Love Kodak Gold. So difficult to find now (at least here in Ontario, Canada). Thank you for the comparison video. Keep up the great work!
Thank you so much for your kind words! It's funny how different the availability of film stock is in different countries.
Thank you for your time watching!
Good comparison, interesting... As you said the film itself depends on many parameters as the camera, the lens, the metering of light, the lab, the paper, etc... and getting close to any film is just kind of arbitrary. What could make sense to me is how close do you get to the reality or even better to the result you're expecting or to your initial intention. What I like in film simulations is the ability to minimize the time I spend in post processing (LR).
The x100vi was noticeably darker than the other two. It an interesting comparison. Thanks for the video 👍👊✨
Many people, including this author, fail to understand that most Fujifilm recipes requires the usage of the exposure compensation dial. The recipes clearly stated the ranges that works best when taking a shot. Many people simply leaves the dial at 0 and treat their X100VI as a point and click camera. The point of the camera is to slow down and use the dials when needed.
Yeah I messed up by forgetting to remember the exposer comp settings :')
Thanks as always for tuning in!
The tones from the Kodak seems very similar to Classic Negative!
Good observation, I didn't notice that!
Thank you for your time watching!
Hey sehr cool, du bist aus Esslingen ☺️😎🤌🏼, coole street Fotos. Find alle von den Farben her schön, aber die fujifilm Farben echt am besten ❤.
Machst du nur Street?
Vielen lieben Dank für deine Worte! :)
Ich beschäftige mich hauptsächlich mit verschiedenen Kameras, die ich interessant finde (meist eher Spielerei, wenn ich ehrlich bin) und bei der Fotografie bin ich aktuell hauptsächlich in Street unterwegs. Portaits / Dokumentation mache ich nur im Kreis der Familie, aber die veröffentliche ich nicht :)
Nochmals danke für das Einschalten und deinen Kommentar :)
film sim is just a great marketing
Agree, but I think in general everything, which makes an image look different. E.g current "hype" on mist filter looks or how Ricoh marketing calls it HDF or the not ending promotion of LUTs.
Thank you for your time watching!
It feels as if it’s all a matter of the lenses. I appreciate the Leica, then the Nikon then the X100 in that order. Thanks for the video!
Glad you enjoyed it! Appreciate your time watching!
I like the comparisons but not enough time is shown for each image. I liked Nikon ZF the least. Preferred Fuji x100vin most with the film camera coming 2nd
Fair point, thank you for your feedback. I always struggle how much time I should display each image, since I always think if it is too long people might think I artificially stretch the video. And I thought people would pause to have a closer look.
But your feedback is valid and I will improve on this in my future videos.
Thanks again and for your time watching!
Excellent music choice
Thank you very much for your kind words and your time watching!
I prefer nikon zf, because more control highlights
Thank you for your time watching and commenting!
Underexposure aside, the Fuji seems too warm and the Nikon not warm enough if the objective is to match the film. I suppose you can adjust both of these.
Yes I also find the recipe of the Fuji too warm and will check for alternatives, since I like the film stock.
Thank you very much for your time watching! Much appreciated!
I shoot film…and I actually like the x100vi best in these examples
It really looks nice and you can tweak it to your personal preference. And it's much cheaper to try things compared to film :)
Thank you for your time watching!
Great job 🎊 ❤
Thank you for your kind words and your time watching!
Comparing/evaluating the images in the video sequence was not easy. It would have been nice, for example, to show the portrait format photos side by side at the same time. I actually liked the analog images best as analog images. The images from the Zf could be recognized directly as digital images, but the were nice. I found the images from the X100VI to be bad and too “yellowish”. I don't use film simulations myself. Either I take photos on film or I edit my pictures on the computer and give them “my” look. This is part of my creative process.
Thank you for your feedback! I keep it in my mind for future videos! And thank you for your time watching and commenting! Much appreciated!
I really liked the actual gold film and the nikon was the closest. The fuji is way too warm. I have at home an xe4 used by my wife, i like playing mainly with classic or neg chrome but in the end i always come back to the raw raf files and edit them.
I recently also started to edit some of my Fuji images, but having the film sims is for me quite a good starting point. Thank you for watching and sharing your experience!
Nikon is closer in DD and colors, but fujifilm colors and tone is better than original film. Fujifilm, please, I wanna FF...
I'm afraid that won't happen, but I'm also wishing for it :')
Thank you for your time watching!
Hey, bud!!!! 👋
Hey man!! Thanks for stopping by. Hope you and your family are doing well! 😊
Nice, just a suggestio. Maybe get a leica m to nikon z adapter so we may ignore the impact of the lens on the colors :)
Great point and definitely a purchase which is on my list, since I want to use my Leica M lenses on the Zf, because of the manual focus feature on the Zf. Thank you for tuning in and your time watching!
To make the Fujifilm recipes work, most require you to use the exposure compensation dial to maximize their effectiveness. Most recipes have a +/- 1-3 stops that works best. Otherwise you end up with lots of under/over exposed pictures like in this video. 😂
Yes I messed up by forgetting to remember the exposer comp settings and dial it in during the shoot, like a lot of people are mentioning here - although I have read it on the recipe page :')
Definitely my fault, will do better next time. Still thank you for your time watching!
You state that the film images were "unedited" but that is a silly statement: you scanned the film to bring it into the digital space for this exercise. By scanning the negative, you submit it to the default "development" settings offered by your specific scanner (hardware and software). There is no "unedited" in any of this anyway: the recipes used in camera are also "edits", even if they stay in default mode (meaning you do not tweak the recipe someone else marketed to you). Plus, as you say, the film also depends on development procedures, and so do the lab prints. And finally "Kodacolor 200" in 2024 has very little to do with Kodacolor 200 of, say, 1995. The whole "film simulations" thing is just an exercise in jpeg effects designed to degrade the quality of near "perfect" digital images and try to make them pass as lo-fi badly stored shoebox prints . So weird.
Film simulations is a marketing term invented by Fujifilm to refer to the colour profiles. You seem to be the kind of person who knows what colour profiles are, so I won't explain it to you.
I do not agree that Fuji's aim with their film simulations (colour profiles) was to degrade the quality of the photographs. The default film simulation in Fuji's cameras is Provia, which aims to get true colours. Other film simulations, such as Astia, Pro Neg Std and Pro Neg Hi, tweak the colours and contrast in a very tasteful way. In fact, some film simulations, such as Classic Chrome and Classic Negative, try to achieve indeed the look of old magazines and old photos in a box, respectively. But one must admit that certain photos really benefit from using this colour profile!
I think what you are referring to when you say "hi-lo badly stored shoebox print" are Film Recipes, which are in-camera edits applied over a Film Simulation. I agree with you that most of them, like this Kodak Gold 200, are a bit heavy-handed and their main goal is to make an image look imperfect. But that's the trend now, whether we like it or not.
So from one pedantic person to another, don't put all Film Simulations in the same box as Film Recipes ;-)