It's definitely more of an issue with any sort of distorted guitar sound. I have a 2000's, Nu Metal track that I really like and the shimmer was very pronounced. As an alternative solution that doesn't use v3.5, I have found that using the 'Remaster' option also works quite well and doesn't require any further input. Using this method isn't perfect and sometimes requires multiple 'tries' before capturing the desired sound, which is an irritating waste of credits but does a good job reducing that strange oscillation or 'shimmer' noise. It really is pot luck; one track was great after one remaster, another took 8-10 attempts (4-5 remasters as it still gives you two versions each time). Thanks for the video. I hope one of these methods works as a stop-gap until Suno can iron out the issue.
Hi Jake, my pleasure. Thank you, as well, for the tip about Remaster. I tried it on a few tracks and didn't like the results, but I didn't try many times on the same one. It's good to know it will work after enough tries.
SUNO is working on a solution. At the moment it is recommended to create stems and stitch them together using an audio software or DAW. This is supposed to help.
Have you found that splitting the stems and recombining in a DAW reduces the problem? I've tried testing the mp3 and Wav files in Audacity to remove the effect but couldn't do it without a substantial negative impact on the EQ and mix quality.
@@CB-AI It just seems like an option that doesn't always work. I read it in a forum. Unfortunately it is not a reliable method. I hope SUNO solves the problem.
The shimmer effect has always been there. Was masked in a different way. also, spacing out your lyrics and text helps as well plus the remaster option.
Since v4 came out, I've noticed the shimmer a little in v3.5, although it's so much less unpronounced I didn't notice it 'til comparing with v4. Thanks for the tip about spacing the lyrics. Do you mean it helps to literally add more space (like more space in the text prompt), or are you referring to spacing the lyrics by adding instrumental breaks in between?
Going back to v3.5 gets rid of it (because the mechanism of v3.5 doesn't have the problem) but it also loses the voice and instrument quality of v4. You do at least maintain the song structure excellence of v4, however. But v3.5 also contains a fuzziness that can ruin a song.
Hi Steve, thank you for the feedback. I agree that there can be a reduction in production quality when going to to v3.5. I've been testing both out quite a bit and think they both have pro's and cons. I like v3.5 for getting the production sound from a particular era whereas v4 has a more modern, clear distinction between the instruments and vocals, and sounds more "up front" in the mix. But the shimmer effect is so bad sometimes I switch to the more flat sounding output of v3.5. It also seems to depend on the genre which version works better. Hopefully Suno will patch an update for v4 soon. I've tried putting the shimmery tracks in Audacity to try to fix it there, but haven't had any luck yet. (Could be because I just lack the audio engineering knowledge, though. I haven't found any audio production videos yet that talk about this specifically)
@@CB-AI I've also tried filtering out the shimmer in Audacity, but the lowpass filters aren't very sharp. The frequency of the shimmer is about the same as fast drum tracks, so you'd lose both. The folks at Suno, I hope, understand the engineering clues that a) the spread spectrum of the shimmer is always the same, and b) the frequency is always the same regardless of the tempo of the song. I've sent in complaints to them in a steady stream, but I presume they are working hard to figure it out (thus it is still labeled "beta").
@@stevewalton3151 Hopefully they'll release the fix for it soon. I've noticed there's a lot of threads on other sites with people complaining about it.
I believe it's a feedback effect. I don't know the mechanics of their algorithms, but somewhere it's picking up some feed-forward noise. The shimmer is always the same frequency, a hallmark of resonance modes. I really hope they get it fixed soon, because I'm having real trouble getting clean versions that minimize it.
It's definitely more of an issue with any sort of distorted guitar sound. I have a 2000's, Nu Metal track that I really like and the shimmer was very pronounced.
As an alternative solution that doesn't use v3.5, I have found that using the 'Remaster' option also works quite well and doesn't require any further input. Using this method isn't perfect and sometimes requires multiple 'tries' before capturing the desired sound, which is an irritating waste of credits but does a good job reducing that strange oscillation or 'shimmer' noise.
It really is pot luck; one track was great after one remaster, another took 8-10 attempts (4-5 remasters as it still gives you two versions each time).
Thanks for the video. I hope one of these methods works as a stop-gap until Suno can iron out the issue.
Hi Jake, my pleasure. Thank you, as well, for the tip about Remaster. I tried it on a few tracks and didn't like the results, but I didn't try many times on the same one. It's good to know it will work after enough tries.
SUNO is working on a solution. At the moment it is recommended to create stems and stitch them together using an audio software or DAW. This is supposed to help.
Have you found that splitting the stems and recombining in a DAW reduces the problem? I've tried testing the mp3 and Wav files in Audacity to remove the effect but couldn't do it without a substantial negative impact on the EQ and mix quality.
@@CB-AI It just seems like an option that doesn't always work. I read it in a forum. Unfortunately it is not a reliable method. I hope SUNO solves the problem.
The shimmer effect has always been there. Was masked in a different way. also, spacing out your lyrics and text helps as well plus the remaster option.
Since v4 came out, I've noticed the shimmer a little in v3.5, although it's so much less unpronounced I didn't notice it 'til comparing with v4.
Thanks for the tip about spacing the lyrics. Do you mean it helps to literally add more space (like more space in the text prompt), or are you referring to spacing the lyrics by adding instrumental breaks in between?
Going back to v3.5 gets rid of it (because the mechanism of v3.5 doesn't have the problem) but it also loses the voice and instrument quality of v4. You do at least maintain the song structure excellence of v4, however. But v3.5 also contains a fuzziness that can ruin a song.
Hi Steve, thank you for the feedback. I agree that there can be a reduction in production quality when going to to v3.5. I've been testing both out quite a bit and think they both have pro's and cons. I like v3.5 for getting the production sound from a particular era whereas v4 has a more modern, clear distinction between the instruments and vocals, and sounds more "up front" in the mix. But the shimmer effect is so bad sometimes I switch to the more flat sounding output of v3.5. It also seems to depend on the genre which version works better. Hopefully Suno will patch an update for v4 soon. I've tried putting the shimmery tracks in Audacity to try to fix it there, but haven't had any luck yet. (Could be because I just lack the audio engineering knowledge, though. I haven't found any audio production videos yet that talk about this specifically)
@@CB-AI I've also tried filtering out the shimmer in Audacity, but the lowpass filters aren't very sharp. The frequency of the shimmer is about the same as fast drum tracks, so you'd lose both. The folks at Suno, I hope, understand the engineering clues that a) the spread spectrum of the shimmer is always the same, and b) the frequency is always the same regardless of the tempo of the song. I've sent in complaints to them in a steady stream, but I presume they are working hard to figure it out (thus it is still labeled "beta").
@@stevewalton3151 Hopefully they'll release the fix for it soon. I've noticed there's a lot of threads on other sites with people complaining about it.
What is the shimmer effekt
The shimmer effect is a kind of background noise.
I believe it's a feedback effect. I don't know the mechanics of their algorithms, but somewhere it's picking up some feed-forward noise. The shimmer is always the same frequency, a hallmark of resonance modes. I really hope they get it fixed soon, because I'm having real trouble getting clean versions that minimize it.
It's that slotmachine/phone ring/laser/whatever you wanna call it in the backgrounds of any song made in v4