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Fires are not going away. In fact, they're escalating, and we need to become more proactive about how we deal with them. But how?
The team at WIFIRE is betting that supercomputing AI and prescribed burns can prevent the next 'megafire.'
The idea is to use low-intensity fire to clean the environment, so when a high-intensity fire comes, it's not going to have as destructive of an effect.
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What do you think of using computer model-informed controlled burns to stop megafires?
Preventing forest fires also changed the species living in that forest by selecting in favor of less fire resistant ones, it changed the tree density of forest leading to more leaf (tinder) accumulation, and it changed the microbiome of the forest. Even in European old growth this had an impact simply because deadwood was no longer collected for fuel or charring milers, and deer were no longer hunted for food. Most forests of the world have been intensely managed for millennia but were left to their own devices in the past hundred years. That was probably not a good move. Even, if not especially, the Amazon rain forest was largely planned and managed. There is no mythological primeval quality to it. It was planted and managed well for a long time but that does not make it resilient to stupidity. In Kazakhstan and Tajikistan are fruit forest that have been cultivated by wild horses and goats for millennia. As people took over the area, these fruit forests have been shrinking but they still exist.
Didnt Cody Johnston cover this?
Thanks for your thoughtful comment! It's certainly true that humans have been modifying ecosystems and forest for thousands of years. You can see quite clearly when ancient ones reached new areas because of sudden shifts in the fossil record.
Animals can be used in fire control. You need to ask, what animals lived there 10,000 years ago? What animals lived there 20K years ago? In certain parts of the world, bison and other animals have been maintaining the natural landscape for thousands of years.
Great point. It would be interesting to know how the changes in animal and plant life in the region over the millennia changed how fires affect them. Perhaps restoring some to their former habitat, when possible, could help.
So, literally fighting fire with fire. Cool
It's a dumb idea that just sounds good.
1. Firefighters are outdated
2. We can make more lakes and rivers
3. Fire response can be 10x faster, but they refuse to use the latest innovations
Wonder if it's possible to 'harvest' and permanently sequester rather than just burn all this carbon.
That's a good idea. Maybe biomass energy generation (CHP) with CCS, and then scatter the ash back in the forest so that the nutrients aren't "stolen". The problem is, of course, that it would be a lot more work and cost, but with a bit of automation and a meaningful price on carbon emissions, it could be financially viable.
Great work 🥳 Thank you 💜
This is done here in India for decades by forest department
There are proposal being put forth to include the implementation of desalination to bring more potable water further inland, and they are discussing where the best places are to store or sequester this water. I think it would be interesting to see models that include man-made lakes thoughtfully placed in these high risk regions to see if it helps cool and hydrate the areas enough that you would need less controlled fires. Also combining a weather monitoring system with desalination and drones capable of delivering potable water to high risk ares near communities and campgrounds as a possible fire prevention system. We can plan really well, but mother nature can still be quite unpredictable. All options should be on the table. Many thanks to this channel for creating a space for people to learn about problems we are facing around the world and allowing those who truly care to have meaningful and productive conversations about real solutions and discuss out-of-the-box possibilities that might work better. As long as we keep talking to each other, there isn't anything we can't solve. 💗
Dude, videos like this here and Upisnotjumps collab with Hbomberguy?
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Interesting! Thank you for your kind words and thoughtful comment. Where can we learn more about the proposal to use desalination to move water further inland?
@@freethink Ok, but what about MY comment though?
@@freethink ?
@@freethink I tried sharing a link here for you to look at, but you may have your settings set so we can't do that. I found a PDF file on Google search that was posted last year that discusses using desalination to offset the yearly rise in sea levels, and the plan would require water sequestration through various methods. If they would also consider wave powered desalination to reduce the impact on the local grid systems, that would be ideal.
This is not a new idea or a old idea its a actual a ancient one that people have been doing around the world for millennia
Wildfires got covered epicly by „Some More News“ in his videos named „Obvious Solutions to Obvious Problems“. My personal favorite are his Videos about ‚Work’ and ‚Unions’ though.
Good channel! Thank you!
Wildfires got covered epicly by „Some More News“ in his videos named „Obvious Solutions to Obvious Problems“. My personal favorite are his Videos about ‚Work’ and ‚Unions’ though.
Dude, videos like this here and Upisnotjumps collab with Hbomberguy?
Thats the Stuff i like! And the stuff i like to RANDOMLY recommend to RANDOM strangers online. Oh, and look at you: Being all Random and Online. Your my next Victim, so let me tell you: Sci Man Dan, Creaky Blinder, Oversimplified, Bluejay, Illuminaughtii, Knowing Better, Some More News, Logicked, Prophet of Zod and Sir Sic all teach youstuf while never EVER being boring.
If only we could collect some of the brush we are wishing to burn and then use it for energy
Interesting idea! There biomass plants that are in operation, though it's not without controversy ( physicsworld.com/a/biomass-energy-green-or-dirty/ ). Collecting this fuel for controlled combustion would probably depend on the costs of gathering it and its energy potential--which might currently be prohibitive, but if there were a way to make it economical that could be a huge boon.
Sure, biomass power has its downsides, but if you're planning to burn the biomass anyway...
The advances in AI is making real world robotics rapidly more feasible and affordable. If we put any meaningful price on carbon emissions, it could probably be economically feasible.
This was a very excellent video. Excellent pacing, accessible information, lighthearted narration, good composition; everything came together really well or this video. 10/10 - keep it up!
Awesome!
Australia has been 'back burning' for over 20 years.... why is this new knowledge?? 🤷🏽♂️
Less new, more suppressed. Not sure about Australia, but common sense land management efforts like controlled burns and brush management have not taken place on the necessary scale for decades in North America, due to their general political unpopularity. Introduce a few non-natives to the mix and you have quite the mess.
I was expecting at least some mention of the need to control man-made development. Should we concentrate towns and cities to limited regions or spread them out differently? How do we need to manage what and where we build?
I was thinking about camping and recreation limitations, but turning wild areas into subdivision should be off the table for the foreseeable future.
These vids are awesome and inspiring!
What's the carbon footprint for US recurring #wildfire and this control burn? Must include them in American net-zero calculation
This is something John Stossel have said, he was censor for it
Lots of hot air that's for sure!
04:40 - oh yes he does...🌌
Fighting fire with fire
Can somebody please send this to Governor Newsom and the US Department of forestry so they can become educated?
The practice of controlled/prescribed burns and a "let it burn" policy for wildfires started by natural causes have been common practice in the American west for decades.
So exactly what the native Americans were doing back before we came here.
and exactly what is already common practice and has been for decades by the US forest service.
Interesting video
RIP, Lytton BC
is sensible logging/thinning part of the solution?
Wildfires got covered epicly by „Some More News“ in his videos named „Obvious Solutions to Obvious Problems“. My personal favorite are his Videos about ‚Work’ and ‚Unions’ though.
I would say if it was very strictly controlled, possibly.
They must do controlled burns to reduce fuel before the dry season.
Yeah didn't work to great in New Mexico...
Beautiful people, beautiful video and beautiful ideas. 👍👍👍
And create the biggest roaster we can break the world record on biggest free barbeque! 8D
Plus don't y'all want to know where smokey the bear is at especially after he smokes one and gets munchies?
This better have beavers in this
7:37 europhobia :o
Just imagine if the indigenous people had never been forced off their lands ...
So much for using the forests as carbon storage, I guess.
If you are going to say you are 1:20 "A show about rebuilding our world from scratch" maybe understand the idioms "From Scratch" *To begin from nothing at all* . Before you do 9 minutes on using a super computer to modify prescribed burns (Something used in Western states for decades)
... or maybe don't kill all the herbivores..? just a suggestion..?
Fire is good for the herbivores. A lot of the shrubby species these fires burn up are not good forage and it paves way for decent grasses and green growth to come in and feed them.
@@EL-lj2yu ah.. you've clearly never met a goat.. ;9)
Why they don’t wear a musk?I think isn’t healthy to breathe that fumes
Elon?
most fires are created by human hand. They are criminals who set fires.. not the forest itself. The amount of fire only leads to this conclusion.
Yes and no. While it is thought that Human interaction causes something like 80% of US wildfires, this doesn't show intent. Trains spark lots of fires even though millions are spent on track beds to prevent it. Catalytic Converters might be the biggest jump in human caused fires, many still don't understand how hot a Catalytic Converters gets. Just U turn in tall grass or pull off the Highway with a flat tire just a bit too far and it will set the grass/brush on fire. There are 7.96 Billion of people who have harnessed fire on the planet, if Just 1 of them in every 100,000 makes one mistake with a spark or flame each year that causes a fire that's still almost 80,000 fires created by human hand, without a single intent to do harm.
@@saoirse5308 I don't disagree with what you're saying, but in the case of forest fires... the solution presented in the video is good (within limitations).
@@maozedong549 yeah, clearly "No Burn" is an outdated attempt to save every tree . I just don't know if a twitter based public can deal with the truth that a quick lower temp brush fire every few years is the solution to devastating Forest Fires where fuel is allowed to build up for decades.
I mean, some prescribed burns *WILL* get out of control and *WILL* burn things Houses/cars/ infrastructure that were not meant to get burned. The public is so reactionary these days, how do you tell them, we need to burn more often to do less damage. . . .90% won't get past the headline GOVERNMET PLANS TO BURN FOREST
@@saoirse5308 haha...yes...(another way was to clear part of the vegetation in risk zones to limit the progression of fire. ...
@@maozedong549 even that will require massive effort, people don't understand the scope of say the Rocky Mt. Range 4,828 km x 650 km It would take a small army to clear risk zones in a grid across just that. . . LOL just that many people using that much equipment in and around fuel would be expected accidently cause so fires .
and as the brush & grass regrow it will need clearing every few years
Australians were doing this for 60,000yrs. Stopped briefly by ignorant invaders but starting again now.
as someone who worked with the FS for years this is a pipe dream... computer simulations, modeling and the forest service all problems.... What they dont tell you is a TON of controlled burns get away from the experts and those experts and their employees have a financial incentive to let fires burn instead of containing them. Also the amount of govt waste on equipment and man hours is staggering, its literally a bottomless money pit for everyone involved, as with most government enterprises ... Hey look over here, another group of experts telling us we can control complex systems if we only had more money and computer models... let us know how it all turns out..
But we have to use controlled fires correctly. I'm sorry that your people didn't that's a problem with the lack of character and ethics in those groups. That doesn't mean there's anything wrong with the technology and the process just how it was used. This is basic logic.
Burning is bad...set fires is bad...oxygen is getting bad... We all are in agreement that fire is bad... .....good!
So what am I saying.... We need clean air! Oh😱😯🤣
how is oxygen "getting bad"?
Nothing new here. Indigenous people have been doing this for millennia. It's an absolutely crucial part of wildland management. If CalFire hasn't then I say shame on them and they should be fired pun not intended and shamed as incompetent derelicts.
If this was applied in California god knows how many billions of dollars and communities might have been saved.
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Good post.
Getting outside the two Wall Street parties is absolutely vital.
Too many irrelevant “trying to be funny” fillers in this video. Such a shame because the main topic itself is good.
Usher told y’all this 20 years ago.
Wildfires got covered epicly by „Some More News“ in his videos named „Obvious Solutions to Obvious Problems“. My personal favorite are his Videos about ‚Work’ and ‚Unions’ though.
😂😂😂😂
We didn't listen
humans need to retreat
Data, data, data... clearly for those that know nothing...and then think the world at a distance with a computer... get on the spot, evaluate the reality ,not through simulations...ask those that already have experience...what a way of trying to promote Silicon Valley...
Stop setting them. 😒
Surely wild fires are not directly caused by climate change? While yes hot intense tempatures make perfect conditions for dry wood allowing the fire to spread rapidly, but I don't see how 30oc to 50oc tempatures would trigger a fire from nothing. Usually you'd need a powerful magnifying glass to intensify the light on a subject to trigger a fire. More likely that someone started an uncontrolled camp fire, someone chucking their cigarette on the floor, a deliberate attempt to cause damage or a faulty powerline that triggers the fire. It would be good to see full investigation carried out as to what caused the fire and see the person prosecuted for their action. It's so easy to blame climate change and not identify the root cause. Put punishable sentences in place for people to stop them from being irresponsible and pay for the damage they caused. There is a lot of spiteful people in this world and it wouldnt suprise me if half a caused deliberately.
The things that start fires have remained constant yet the size that the fires grow have increased, this means that the material that was not prone to burning then is prone now, here comes the warming and drying of the states, which is a real thing mind you
climate change increases the intensity and frequency of forest fires, plus increasing heatwaves and drought. forest fires have always happened, obviously. what we are seeing is the gradual desertification of places like california
Native peoples, they know it best.
wtf.
Nope... wildfires have to be STOPPED!!!
WRRRRRROOOOOONNNGGGG
You know nothing.
Would be great if all that carbon could be managed and sequestered instead of just going up in smoke.
Better to have controlled burns than devastating mega fires. You can’t fight nature. Nature always wins.
Some grass going up in flames isn't as bad as having those trees release all of their carbon that they accumulated for decades and centuries.
@@blinded6502 They’re talking about burning off that 100 years of accumulated tinder. I’m just saying wouldn’t it be nice to find a way to sequester it.
So basically killing all future baby trees... uhm? 2 birds one stone, plant tree seedlings after each controlled burn. I don't know.
No, controlled burns don’t end forests.
Why did this video have to bash Florida? Doesn't have anything to do with the topic at hand. Starting to dislike this channel.
Or... maybe we increase desalination and turn dry places into an oasis 🤔.
messing with an ecosystem is never a good idea...controlled burning isn't really messing with the eco sense its just fire which is going to happen...but turning a dry place into an oasis doesn't normal happen quickly. My opinion anyway.
Yeah unsubbed, don't make it political and half baked some of your videos were good now its obvious your publishing for clicks and popularity