Thameslink EXPLAINED - A Rail Operator Summary

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  • @justmeajah
    @justmeajah หลายเดือนก่อน

    Really appreciate the route visualization!! Nice one!

  • @IainGowers
    @IainGowers ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Just an FYI, the service from London Bridge to Littlehampton is the service that was transferred from southern. The plan was that the service would gain a full Thameslink service when the Thameslink service was rolled out, but was delayed when the thameslink issues happened at startup. Then when lockdown happened, this has never been rolled out and so I think there are a few remaining services yet to start

    • @Cowman9791
      @Cowman9791 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ultimately, that plan has been completely U-turned on. Originally it was transferred to Thameslink, then extended to Bedford. Then it got cut back in January 2023, and then in May 2023, it transferred to Southern, and in May 2024, it got cancelled on Fridays and now only runs Monday to Thursday. Ultimately, I wouldn't be surprised if that happened on the orders of the previous DfT.

  • @andrewmagnusthegreatesttra1230
    @andrewmagnusthegreatesttra1230 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Keep up the amazing work mate

  • @GojiMet86
    @GojiMet86 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thanks for the videos. I usually just stare at the maps of all the lines in England and wonder how services are managed, especially when it comes to branch lines.

  • @olliegrant205
    @olliegrant205 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I can confirm that the trains from St Albans do continue on back to St Albans from Sutton to complete the loop

    • @brianfretwell3886
      @brianfretwell3886 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Even though the announcements as they approach Sutton say that they terminate there as soon as the front car gets to the platform the announcement changes to to it being a St Albans service. The Platform indicator on the route via Mitcham also changes from "Don't join this train" to it being a St Albans service when it passes the signal before Sutton station.

    • @robotx9285
      @robotx9285 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@brianfretwell3886 Weird

    • @TrainPersonWhatever
      @TrainPersonWhatever ปีที่แล้ว

      I can also confirm

    • @mudchute4dlr
      @mudchute4dlr 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      isnt it st albans > luton via sutton?

  • @Alto53
    @Alto53 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is an amazing video. Really high quality work, I can tell the effort that went into creating the map and all the animations!

  • @christopherburton2084
    @christopherburton2084 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brilliant video, concise and informative, keep it up 👍

  • @Citran1001
    @Citran1001 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    And your work is amazing keep up the work with animating because your animating has got way better over the years.

  • @brianfretwell3886
    @brianfretwell3886 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    At one time, when Thameslink service started the now Sutton Loop service went to at least Woking in off-peak hours.

    • @Andrewjg_89
      @Andrewjg_89 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I remembered that as well. Shame that Thameslink doesn't go to Woking anymore.

    • @grassytramtracks
      @grassytramtracks 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Andrewjg_89 let's bring back Thameslink to Woking, hell, Guildford

  • @michellebell5092
    @michellebell5092 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I like Thameslink, it’s a great railway, leaving aside the regular operating disruptions. But it’s so useful to make an entire journey on or to interchange either at Blackfriars (and the fabulous view of London ) or Kings Cross St. Pancras. Thanks for the detailed history and information on my local railway.

  • @feeshyman
    @feeshyman ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Let's go Thameslink might be one of the most interesting ones. Northern is on top. Very detailed video and that's what I love

  • @JudeTDM1
    @JudeTDM1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Radlett and Potters Bar are both in the oyster zones

  • @teecefamilykent
    @teecefamilykent ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The reason that thameslink has dropped the Ashford to London route is that Thameslink do not have conductors/ Guards but Southeastern do, the stations on the Ashford route are designed with conductors in mind.

    • @sebastianbaynes9452
      @sebastianbaynes9452 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      On this point, I also assumed that Thameslink trains *never* have guards on them - I regularly (~once a week for the last 18 months) get the train from Cambridge to London and I gradually realised that Thameslink and Great Northern trains never have guards on them (as opposed to the Greater Anglia services to Liverpool Street that often do). However, I have only on one single occasion been asked to show a ticket by a guard, in late November 2022 on a Cambridge to Brighton train and it really took me by surprise. Is this normal? I can't understand why Thameslink would put guards on trains so infrequently

    • @teecefamilykent
      @teecefamilykent ปีที่แล้ว

      Sounds like revenue/ ticket inspectors not guards?

    • @sebastianbaynes9452
      @sebastianbaynes9452 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@teecefamilykent What's the difference?

    • @teecefamilykent
      @teecefamilykent ปีที่แล้ว

      Conductors tend to stay on the train from end to end, whereas revenue jump from train to train en route.

  • @Emunyani
    @Emunyani ปีที่แล้ว

    You can also go straight to Bedford from Sutton in late evening as the trains head back to the depot in Bedford

  • @nobody_123
    @nobody_123 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You’ve also forgot to mention that from Finsbury Park, the great Northern train heads towards Moorgate via the following stops: Drayton Park, Highbury & Islington, Essex Road, Old Street & Moorgate

    • @HesterClapp
      @HesterClapp ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/m9lDCZXbSPg/w-d-xo.html

    • @thisdude5854
      @thisdude5854 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He didn’t do all of the network

  • @chrisorr8601
    @chrisorr8601 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video! It’s funny to think with some branch services at 15mins (&less when you factor in overlapping timetables) and a center city tunnel, Thameslink could pass as a full metro system in many North American cities!!

  • @gunnersfan
    @gunnersfan ปีที่แล้ว +1

    On Great Northern you also forgot the Service from King's Cross to Peterborough and vice versa as well as the Trains from Peterborough to Gatwick Airport and Peterborough to Three Bridges and I know this because I live in St Neots and I am a regular commuter on the lines

  • @gunnersfan
    @gunnersfan ปีที่แล้ว

    You forgot the morning service from Peterborough to King's Cross on Thameslink.

  • @alisonjones2740
    @alisonjones2740 ปีที่แล้ว

    I live in Bedford we see these class 230 class 360 and class 700 although the Marston vale which is Bedford to Bletchley in case you didn't know but there are similar trains that are class 484s which the class 230 and 484 are old District line trains

  • @AgentWT
    @AgentWT ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video, and can you please do a video on London Northwestern Railway, or Greater Anglia

  • @danielrowlands7505
    @danielrowlands7505 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great vid, can you do swr next?

  • @fightingworld5619
    @fightingworld5619 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What about the express service from Peterborough to Horsham that on weekends terminates at King’s Cross ?

  • @OneEternalAsh
    @OneEternalAsh ปีที่แล้ว

    Please do southern rail explained, please 🙏

  • @Schmalspurfan7
    @Schmalspurfan7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    these trains are built in germany. i have already seen them driving on the siemens test ring

  • @instinct_yt281
    @instinct_yt281 ปีที่แล้ว

    Greater Anglia next please

  • @CyberZanGaming
    @CyberZanGaming ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the vids
    Can you do this for southern please

  • @carlhaslam1914
    @carlhaslam1914 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you please do London North Eastern railway (LNER)

  • @Super_Trainspotter
    @Super_Trainspotter ปีที่แล้ว

    do southern next!

  • @demonishRBLX
    @demonishRBLX ปีที่แล้ว +1

    okay, i must admit, i kinda made transpennine express more popular

  • @jacksebsmith
    @jacksebsmith ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Shortlands, Bickley, and Petts Wood aren't managed by Thameslink, they're managed by Southeastern. Also in addition to Bedford-Brighton/Moorgate, Luton-Sutton/Wimbledon in the Network South East days Thameslink also ran Luton to Sevenoaks via Catford aswell as Luton to Guildford until 1994

  • @five-o5362
    @five-o5362 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pretty sure there's at least one more "not step free" station on the OG Thameslink route.

  • @thisdude5854
    @thisdude5854 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It goes to Luton common in the morning one service at the evening but Tomorrow apparently there is an extension to Bedford but just Tomorrow

  • @GeoffJNewman
    @GeoffJNewman ปีที่แล้ว

    I have seen some Thameslink trains at Beckenham Junction but not sure how that fits into the scheduled services. Looking at their site it appears to be a shared between them and Southeastern

    • @Super_Trainspotter
      @Super_Trainspotter ปีที่แล้ว

      no thameslink trains go to beckenham junction in regular service. they only do so when the route via catford is closed

    • @callumwhite2993
      @callumwhite2993 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Super Trainspotter As a Catford Loop local, I can confirm this is correct. The route via Beckenham Junction can also be used when there’s engineering works or strikes

  • @mariusgosea5912
    @mariusgosea5912 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just asking. One a week trains head at 7:14am from London Victoria to Orpington. Here is the twist. Southeastern does the same route so why do it?

  • @Citran1001
    @Citran1001 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Rabot? Can you do WMR(West Midlands railway)? Because I really want to know what routes are there even know you look at the map it still don't show.

  • @arnoldspottingvideos5269
    @arnoldspottingvideos5269 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video Ashley. Can you do Greater Anglia please

  • @ethanhughes1636
    @ethanhughes1636 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could you do a video about LNER at somepoint?

    • @ashleyrabot
      @ashleyrabot  ปีที่แล้ว

      Transpennine is next but I'll do another poll after I get back from hols!

    • @ethanhughes1636
      @ethanhughes1636 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ashleyrabot I'm actually kinda off excited for that as they go to my local station

  • @Andrewjg_89
    @Andrewjg_89 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I do think that Thameslink should run to Ashford International and to Hastings. As they got enough rolling stocks to cover more services. Plus new railway stations are to be built that Thameslink will serve including Brent Cross West and Wixams. And of course at Luton Airport Parkway you got the Luton DART that is to open in mid March.
    Also I do think that Great Northern should of inherit the Class 379 Electrostars so they can operate between London King’s Cross-Cambridge, King’s Lynn and Ely stopper and semi-fast. Class 387/1 & Class 387/3 on KX-Peterborough & Cambridge stopper & semi-fast services.

    • @ItsLesurex
      @ItsLesurex ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Ashford Line is designed for conductors which THAMESLINK don’t have but SOUTHEASTERN does so either Southeasten has a London Blackfriars to Ashford Intl service or no SERVICE

    • @Andrewjg_89
      @Andrewjg_89 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ⁠Ah right. Thanks for letting me know 👍

  • @mudchute4dlr
    @mudchute4dlr 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    3:36 kensal rise for thameslink 💀

  • @VisionForDynamics
    @VisionForDynamics ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What animation software do you use

  • @RailwayAviationWorld
    @RailwayAviationWorld 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How do you find all this information?

  • @davern6
    @davern6 ปีที่แล้ว

    2 unskippable 20second adverts before this…. TH-cam are taking the piss

  • @winkiipinkii
    @winkiipinkii ปีที่แล้ว

    6:38 *Siemens
    Otherwise a great informative video, well done

  • @Sophiebryson510
    @Sophiebryson510 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lots of trains

    • @halinagasik5776
      @halinagasik5776 ปีที่แล้ว

      10000% its a class 700

    • @Sophiebryson510
      @Sophiebryson510 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@halinagasik5776 I meant the service patterns but I mean, you’re right

  • @sidesplitter9497
    @sidesplitter9497 ปีที่แล้ว

    what is the argument against thameslink being taken over by tfl?

    • @mattevans4377
      @mattevans4377 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Distance. Can you imagine TFL running services to Brighton? Or Peterborough?

    • @sidesplitter9497
      @sidesplitter9497 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mattevans4377 well they run services to reading now, is it so strange to think of them running services to brighton?

    • @mattevans4377
      @mattevans4377 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sidesplitter9497 Reading is not by choice. It was the only station big enough to turn the Crossrail trains around at.

  • @hanstheexplorer
    @hanstheexplorer 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There are 18 comments now lol

  • @JayJay-nc7pr
    @JayJay-nc7pr ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Rainham
    Service is rubbish it replaced a well used an popular semi fast train

  • @stevesaul7975
    @stevesaul7975 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was under the impression Thameslink (as a service) started in 1988 whereas you say it was 1990. 🤔

    • @ashleyrabot
      @ashleyrabot  ปีที่แล้ว

      Technically yes, it started in 1988, but on a very slightly different alignment through the core. British Rail actually made some changed between 1988 and 1990 and it was only then that it operates to the one we know today.
      It's slight but you are right 😂

  • @esctiger8271
    @esctiger8271 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you do southern soon pls

  • @CloudmasterGaming
    @CloudmasterGaming ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video but I'm kinda sad TPE didn't win.

  • @Deepleswanseavalleybusspotter
    @Deepleswanseavalleybusspotter 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thameslink is like s bahn

  • @thisdude5854
    @thisdude5854 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have checked on Google maps and saw a route from Orpington to Bedford what happened it showed the route once

  • @matpk
    @matpk ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Split the Northern Line!!!!

  • @SubToAWS_Real
    @SubToAWS_Real ปีที่แล้ว

    i live in one ofthose city