(continued) the whole throw has to be done as 1, the block comes with the duck that starts the squat as the weakener (punch/kick etc.) stunns and alows the thrower to slam into the throwee (also a potential strike) there should be little time for Emin to be able to sit back into it. EXACTLY as he says about the bong sao! Its a move which utilises speed and the weakening blows.
-The main idea that Emin talks about in this seminar comes across as "don't worry about techniques, just move". You can only do this once you have learned, practiced, and experimented with those techniques, movements, and strategies to a point where you are able to bet your life on them before you can "just move". -Someone actually attempting to throw you will put your hips back and make you lean forward before trying to throw you.
Standing in the preparatory neutral YGKYM stance waiting for the attacker to enter the "magnetic zone" is one reason why WC would be disadvantaged in the ring/cage. You'd just be disqualified for inactivity. MMA fighters also know the value of counter-fighting, that's why a long time is usually spent squaring off waiting for an opening, and openings usually happens when someone initiates the attack. That's why draws and feints exist, to get the other guy to commit to an attack.
A guy like bus rutten kicks so hard that even a professional trained fighter gets a broken liver. So imagine boztepe just walking forward with no need to defend nothing just his famous forward punch. He may hit him in the face before emin cringes on the ground.
O and the block turns into a grab which then puls the opponent down and around (and thus off balence/centre) with the downward spiral that leads to the squat. Wow I actually forgot how a seemingly simple hip throw is actually pretty complex.
@Rmaul21 No system of fighting is illegitimate or fake, but wing chun is a much more efficient way of fighting than mma. One only has to compare basic techniques to verify that WC/WT is a much more direct style. Fact is, in many lower level cage fights/mma matches, wing chun is starting to appear more and more as people learn to use it more effectively in this setting. No professional wc fighter has come along yet, but that doesn't mean the system isn't a force to be reckoned with.
My name is emin boztope. I have had 300 bare knuckle brawls and won all of them. I dont have a single one on camera but i expect u to believe i am an elite fighting machine. The only one i do have on camera is a blurry one where im on the ground already and bashing williams head jujitsu style. I think mma is barbaric but i love bare knuckle brawls cos somehow i think thats more civillised. I dont have the guts to challenge mma guys so i challenge unproven guys.
I agree that one (esp a well known fig like Emin who is viewed as synonymous with WC) shouldnt even mention the name of any other styles in his own demo/training video. It always produce negative political interpretation when viewed by ppl of other styles. Back to your comment, where did he say "its easy to beat a muay thai guy by catching his leg"? AFAIK, WC dont try to handle a kick by catching it. Sanshou guys do catch legs but that is another styles.
EVERY SITE ON THE NET WILL BE SENT THIS MESSAGE. BGZBadboy claims he can kick Emin's ass but is such a coward. I wonder if any WC fighters in Joplin, MO to look him up? Let me know so we can arrange it.
we dont "try our wing chun"..that was part of the point....other peoples actions result in reactions thats all...nothing more nothing less if you dont want to watch dont.
A lot of fair points, he's obv good but the guy who he's demonstrating on doesn't know how to throw (dont care that he says hes done judo or Jitsu) if he wanted to throw him and knew how, no amount of weight distribution or foot position would stop him
@mrlixalot "and free spar (I recommend he has gloves, to protect you). " Then wt students should have no problem taking part in an mma fights. Mma fighters wear gloves too, to protect wt students :) Fair enough?
I disagree, its all about the thrower, u can avoid a throw but u can obviously avoid any other move too. The guy wouldn't have to change Emin's body position but his style of throwing. His problem is that he bends from the waist first. He needs to bend with his knees (as you would lifting any heavy object) & once close in just rise like rising from a squat, THEN bend and throw once he has no strong footing don't try and pull him if he's sunk back that's the problem with demos, misrepresentation
@makkho You might be missunderstanding what they mean by simple. The logic behind WT is simple, you HAVE to train to make it work. What? people expect to be masters by barely training? Wt is insane if you train it and you don't just pile the theory but put it in practice over, over and over, and over and over again. If you try to apply it without having the feeling then it's useless.
bet 3/4 of the ppl commenting about ma are not even fightr or practcing martial arts but still blabbering swear word and other nasty stuff....martial arts are gr8 thats it whats so wrong with saying thta nd leaving everyone be?????!!
He is good but I didn't like the way he humeleate other stiles like that karate demonstration. On higher level karate became very flesible and with minimal blocks.
All myths about "i saw emin do this...do that...." is useless. Please show me proof. Otherwise I myself will claim to have had 100 brawls and won them. But without providing you any proof, i expect you to believe me. Does that sound fair enough?
He can make fun of other styles as much as he wants but until he proves himself on camera with other decent mma fighters, we all know he is all talk. He says its easy to beat a muay thai guy by catching his leg? Hah, prove it. Fight one. Wc guys here will believe emin cos they will never fight a mauy thai guy for real. And when they do, they will taste the reality. trust me, they are in for a shock when it comes to mauy thai power.
(continued) the whole throw has to be done as 1, the block comes with the duck that starts the squat as the weakener (punch/kick etc.) stunns and alows the thrower to slam into the throwee (also a potential strike) there should be little time for Emin to be able to sit back into it. EXACTLY as he says about the bong sao! Its a move which utilises speed and the weakening blows.
-The main idea that Emin talks about in this seminar comes across as "don't worry about techniques, just move". You can only do this once you have learned, practiced, and experimented with those techniques, movements, and strategies to a point where you are able to bet your life on them before you can "just move".
-Someone actually attempting to throw you will put your hips back and make you lean forward before trying to throw you.
Standing in the preparatory neutral YGKYM stance waiting for the attacker to enter the "magnetic zone" is one reason why WC would be disadvantaged in the ring/cage. You'd just be disqualified for inactivity. MMA fighters also know the value of counter-fighting, that's why a long time is usually spent squaring off waiting for an opening, and openings usually happens when someone initiates the attack. That's why draws and feints exist, to get the other guy to commit to an attack.
A guy like bus rutten kicks so hard that even a professional trained fighter gets a broken liver. So imagine boztepe just walking forward with no need to defend nothing just his famous forward punch. He may hit him in the face before emin cringes on the ground.
O and the block turns into a grab which then puls the opponent down and around (and thus off balence/centre) with the downward spiral that leads to the squat. Wow I actually forgot how a seemingly simple hip throw is actually pretty complex.
@Rmaul21 No system of fighting is illegitimate or fake, but wing chun is a much more efficient way of fighting than mma. One only has to compare basic techniques to verify that WC/WT is a much more direct style. Fact is, in many lower level cage fights/mma matches, wing chun is starting to appear more and more as people learn to use it more effectively in this setting. No professional wc fighter has come along yet, but that doesn't mean the system isn't a force to be reckoned with.
Yott, "where did he say "its easy to beat a muay thai guy by catching his leg"?
its in one of these vids. He did say it.
cool. :) respect to all martial arts anyway.
My name is emin boztope.
I have had 300 bare knuckle brawls and won all of them. I dont have a single one on camera but i expect u to believe i am an elite fighting machine.
The only one i do have on camera is a blurry one where im on the ground already and bashing williams head jujitsu style.
I think mma is barbaric but i love bare knuckle brawls cos somehow i think thats more civillised.
I dont have the guts to challenge mma guys so i challenge unproven guys.
I agree that one (esp a well known fig like Emin who is viewed as synonymous with WC) shouldnt even mention the name of any other styles in his own demo/training video. It always produce negative political interpretation when viewed by ppl of other styles.
Back to your comment, where did he say "its easy to beat a muay thai guy by catching his leg"? AFAIK, WC dont try to handle a kick by catching it. Sanshou guys do catch legs but that is another styles.
EVERY SITE ON THE NET WILL BE SENT THIS MESSAGE.
BGZBadboy claims he can kick Emin's ass but is such a coward. I wonder if any WC fighters in Joplin, MO to look him up? Let me know so we can arrange it.
i agree with nirpal.
we dont "try our wing chun"..that was part of the point....other peoples actions result in reactions thats all...nothing more nothing less if you dont want to watch dont.
A lot of fair points, he's obv good but the guy who he's demonstrating on doesn't know how to throw (dont care that he says hes done judo or Jitsu) if he wanted to throw him and knew how, no amount of weight distribution or foot position would stop him
very effective and helpful techniques thanks for sharing...just curious dont mean no disrespect but it sounded like someone farted at 4:14..lol
@mrlixalot
"and free spar (I recommend he has gloves, to protect you). "
Then wt students should have no problem taking part in an mma fights. Mma fighters wear gloves too, to protect wt students :) Fair enough?
I disagree, its all about the thrower, u can avoid a throw but u can obviously avoid any other move too. The guy wouldn't have to change Emin's body position but his style of throwing. His problem is that he bends from the waist first. He needs to bend with his knees (as you would lifting any heavy object) & once close in just rise like rising from a squat, THEN bend and throw once he has no strong footing don't try and pull him if he's sunk back that's the problem with demos, misrepresentation
every martila art is gr8 thats what i believe,,,,,but some idiots believe it as just kill and bust everyon eit is just self defense...peace:)
@makkho You might be missunderstanding what they mean by simple. The logic behind WT is simple, you HAVE to train to make it work. What? people expect to be masters by barely training? Wt is insane if you train it and you don't just pile the theory but put it in practice over, over and over, and over and over again. If you try to apply it without having the feeling then it's useless.
bet 3/4 of the ppl commenting about ma are not even fightr or practcing martial arts but still blabbering swear word and other nasty stuff....martial arts are gr8 thats it whats so wrong with saying thta nd leaving everyone be?????!!
He is good but I didn't like the way he humeleate other stiles like that karate demonstration. On higher level karate became very flesible and with minimal blocks.
All myths about "i saw emin do this...do that...." is useless. Please show me proof.
Otherwise I myself will claim to have had 100 brawls and won them. But without providing you any proof, i expect you to believe me.
Does that sound fair enough?
fart in 4:12
He can make fun of other styles as much as he wants but until he proves himself on camera with other decent mma fighters, we all know he is all talk.
He says its easy to beat a muay thai guy by catching his leg? Hah, prove it. Fight one.
Wc guys here will believe emin cos they will never fight a mauy thai guy for real. And when they do, they will taste the reality. trust me, they are in for a shock when it comes to mauy thai power.