@@pablocasas5906 Yeah, the issue was the translation. I think he plainly said that they couldn't feature Mai in Smash because of CERO, but the subtitles said they didn't put her in because Smash is a game for good boys and girls. It's hilarious, but it's also a really dumb choice.
Terry is the first true 3rd party crossover in Street Fighter. Street Fighter already have their first party crossover from Final Fight (a lot) and then we have Akira from Rival School in SF5
@@sc0rpiongg SvC3 would be more hype for me, I'd love to play SNK's take on characters like Menat, Luke, etc.! However, I won't complain if CvS3 is done instead! Just, let my beloved characters be good this time around, haha. Only SNK character I really love playing in CvS2 is Haohmaru
SNK probably has a standard template for Terry and Mai for crossovers. He looks the same as he did in FEXL and smash. They probably want one recognizable look for every crossover so he is easily identifiable regardless of the style.
It makes sense for terry but not for mai imo. To me, having Mai chosen confirms to me that capcom has been working on the capcom vs snk roster for a while now.
All I have to say is Takashi Nishiyama. One of the two creators of Street Fighter and creator of Fatal Fury. These aren't just regular guest characters.
Going off this logic, a few other series to watch out for: * Darkstalkers * Art of Fighting * Mega Man (not a fighter but yes) * Fighting Layer/SFEX * The Rumble Fish
@@Rivarham I was thinking the same thing. Also, my understanding is that CotW may be the final chapter of the FF saga. If that's the case, having SF6 celebrate FF's legacy seems fitting to me.
I guess it's just because that is both Terry and Mai's most iconic look. But with Garou on the way I'm kind of surprised they aren't those versions of the characters, especially since everyone else in the SF universe is their oldest selves. Maybe it will be their alternate outfits or something.
I'm also wondering, what it is going to be Terry's stage? He has had a lot of very iconic stages, particularly the train from Fatal Fury 2 and Mark of the Wolves, but I also like the beach stages from Fatal Fury 3 and Real Bout Special and there's also the desert from Real Bout 2 which was featured in KoF XIII. As for Mai, I hope that's not similar to Ryu's stage in this game, with the sakura tree, since she had a similar-looking stage in RB2
This is important for the world of fighting games and the FGC because if this leads to Capcom vs. SNK 3, that in my opinion would be the ultimate celebration of fighting games.
It would seem like the best time now. I get it 20 years ago when SNK was fighting off money issues and fighting games were declining, but now that the genre is thriving and these two companies are thriving... IT'S TIME FOR CVS3
Perspective matters a lot. For me as a fan of both Capcom and SNK, I 100% agree but an MVC4 announcement would be equally huge. Hell I'd argue even now, SNK gains more from this crossover than Capcom to be dead ass honest.
@@tokyobassistyou have problems with Disney forcing to use the Cinematic universe rather than the comics/animated series. So that one is a bit hard plus Infinite was a flop.
The designs are specifically based off their Fatal Fury designs and it's definitely a crossover related to said series rather than just KOF, the reason why we haven't seen their COTW designs is because Mai's look wasn't revealed as of yet so they'll probably be alternate costumes.
@@surftCapcom probably doesn’t really care about fitting Terry and Mai into the chronology and story of Street Fighter given they’re guest characters. They’re coming to the game in a dope-ass crossover, and that’s enough.
To this day I'm still sad that Terry's appearance in Smash was leaked by a copyright. I mean, it only listed SNK but people were quick to assume that it would be Terry
@@pablocasas5906I find it funny that at the time Terry’s Smash reveal fans thought he was “irrelevant” when he had more game appearances than some of the characters that were constantly requested for dlc. It’s even funnier that Terry would later end up getting another KOF game, a new Fatal Fury game since 1999, and now a guest spot in the latest Street Fighter.
A thing that I've mentioned to some ppl is that I don't think a lot of new age fighting game fans know how important/prolethic SNK is to the world of fighting games. Seeing SNK doing their thing and doing well these past several years and now having this with SF6 just brings me back to the good ol days and I am VERY excited for this batch of characters
lets be real, Playmore nearly killed all of their franchises if it wasn't for the metal slug franchise keeping the SNK brand relevant hell i didn't even know they were making fighting games after the NEST Saga if it wasn't for years later on TH-cam with all the KoF 13 combo challenge
@@GarethXLTBF, Playmore era had some great games like Kof 2002/02UM, 98UM, Kof XI, NGBC and Kofi XIII, but yeah by that point the damage had already been done.
One thing that kinda makes me think this is indeed a bigger deal than we think is because Capcom actually WANTED to promote this as a big deal. They could probably show Bison and the SF fans would be pleased from the summer game fest, but they actually had an entire animation dedicated to hype this crossover. It may be looking way in too deep, after all, being the first crossover characters on a SF game is a big enough deal, but i dont know. My guts tell me that there is a reason why Capcom pushed the announcement in such a big stage, when you could think Terry and Mai are niche characters, Bison alone would get more casual reactions.
I always wondered how many kids got that demo disc that came with the PS1 in 1995/96 that had KOF on it. Because of that demo disc, Terry was one of the first fighting game characters I remember.
Don't forget the fighting game dev round table they were doing back at the end of SF5's lifespan. it was PRETTY CLEAR those devs wanted to work together then if they all got together for collective reveals and celebrating each other publicly
If I had a nickel for every time Terry was added as a dlc character to a fighting game that featured Ryu and Ken and released in Autumn, I'd have 2 Nickels which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice.
This very morning, my brother and I were having a conversation over this. My brother believes that this DLC is Capcom "testing the waters" as he put in. If it is successful, the possibility of a brand new CVS game would grow higher. I added to the subject, since I believe that SNK should answer in turn and add a Capcom character to the City of the Wolves roster. My brother and I agreed on which character should be: Ken. It's _got_ to be Ken. It *_must_* be Ken. Although I do fancy the idea of a compilation of all the CVS games.
I would rather have a capcom team in the next KOF (XVI) when it comes out in a few years, that would be amazing! but it would be really hard for me to pick the 3 members.
This is just starting to become a thing. No me expects a game announcement. But you know for fact since Terry and Mai are coming, they had to same conversation about Akuma and a plus one to fly out to Southtown If they are having these conversations, it sounds pretty promising
Wtf are you talking about? Quit glazing sakurai. He didn't create crossover games and wasn't the first to put Terry Bogard in a different i.p. You Nintendo heads make me want to vomit.
Sf6 has been quite fun all around for me, but I just want a new main, and the new boys and girls aren't for me. This crossover really sparked my interest for the game again
I don't get why he keeps saying these are the CvS versions, "The classic KoF versions" these are exactly what they look like in Fatal Fury???? Fatal Fury came before KoF, This is how Terry and Mai have always looked until Garou...
Terry's most iconic look is his Fatal Fury 2 one, with the sleeves on his shirt torn off, in his Fatal Fury 3 and Real Bout appearence the sleeves on his shirt were intact. But from Real Bout Special onwards he kept his FF2 appearence, save for his Mark of the Wolves look being used in KoF 2003 and XI, and he also had an original look in KoF XIV
Both Street Fighter and Fatal Fury were created by Takashi Nishiyama, it can be seen as a nice tribute to him. Very glad Fatal Fury was the first 3rd party game to make an appearance in the Street Fighter world, it couldn't be another fighting game. Capcom is the best.
We’re getting *Terry Bogard* in a Street Fighter game. I repeat. *We are getting Terry ‘Busterwolf’ Bogard.* For the first time in a long time, I can proudly say “Yes, Terry, I *_am_* okay. I’m very okay.*
I'm not hugely into Street Fighter having guest characters, but now that it's happening, I'm glad they went with Fatal Fury guests. Those characters feel like they could belong in Street Fighter, although it would've been cooler to see a City of Wolves version of Terry since the Street Fighter cast has also been visually aged up from their early appearances. Regardless, as long as they stick with guest characters that can make sense in the world of Street Fighter, I guess I'm cool with it. If they start adding characters 2B, Geralt of Rivia, or other such unfitting characters just because they're popular, then I'm going to be a bit miffed.
One thing I've seen people speculating as the "next step" from this is for either Street Fighter characters to appear as guest characters in City of the Wolves, or for King of Fighters to end up getting a "Team Street Fighter" in it. I could see Capcom letting that happen as a testing ground before SNK gets to do "SNK vs Capcom 2".
Let's set the record straight. SNK has oil money, yes. But the Osaka studio, where the fighting game division is, won't be utilizing it. That's specifically going to their new Tokyo studio where they'll be exclusively making new IPs. COTW was in development long before the buyout. Edit: Okay it seems some people misunderstood my comment. This isn't in defense of SNK being owned by the Saudis, I personally don't care about that. I was more getting at how it wouldn't be a good idea for SNK to develop CvS3 (or SvC2). They won't have the budget to make the game presentable nor will they have the content for the casual audience.
The Saudi's bought around 5% stock of Capcom back in 2022. There's no way to really spin it into anything but "Yeah this sucks but I do want CVS3." The only way to show you care about the political aspect is simply not buying which nobody will do.
Love how a comment about people getting a potential snk vs Capcom game devolved into :it's owned by people that aren't Japanese so don't buy the game ,who tf cares who bought what ,if it gets the people a new snk vs Capcom game let the people enjoy it . Jeeze. Douche
Making Itsuno and fans choose between Devil May Cry 6 and CVS3 is beyond cruel. It's actually been so long now since Devil May Cry 5 that a remale of the first game has actually become a real possible option for Capcom to pursue. I would bet Itsuno wouldn't hesitate to jump on CVS3 or Rival Schools 3 though. Opportunities like this don't come often. I do think people should delete the idea of it being 3v3/2v2/tag/assist based and expect something very different just like how the first two entries are massively different.
I think the reason Terry and Mai were added as guest characters in Street Fighter 6 is because by the time Winter 2025 (January) Elena added comes, Fatal Fury City of the Wolves will be released. However there should an exchange in which any Street Fighter character as guest in the upcoming Fatal Fury game mentioned.
Now i gotta keep my ears open. For any Capcom related joke in the Wolervine and Deadpool movie. Let them mention the Street fighter universe once, the tin foil hat is ON
I mean….street fighter characters did randomly appear appear as silhouettes in a scene in a deadpool comic, as well as him doing a shoryuken to goad Wolverine to attack him
Oh man, with this opening the gates to guest characters, my mind was already imagining if they could manage to sneak a Marvel character in here. People would go nuts if they nabbed Spiderman/Miles, Doctor Doom, Hulk or She Hulk, Iron Fist, Luke Cage, Kingpin, Daredevil, Magneto, there's so many possibilities that would fit the style of SF6 really well.
I think that the reason Terry is like that is both CVS and that the Garou jacket is gonna be costume 2. This is definitely them testing the waters for a CVS3
Yeah, especially seeing how Terry and Mai wore their most iconic looks from Fatal Fury 2 while Elena and M. Bison had their new looks. Like Max said, Terry will probably have his Mark of the Wolves look, but Mai's alternate look is going to be interesting since she's never had another iconic look, there's her look from Fatal Fury 3 and Real Bout, but it wasn't that different from her original appearance, I know there's also her appearance from Maximum Impact but that doesn't really count. I'm wondering that if Mai appears as a playable character in City of the Wolves and she has a new look just like Terry and Andy have, maybe her alternate costume in SF6 would be that one
@@pablocasas5906 We already had her voice bite appear in the teaser trailer for CotW, she's all but confirmed, so I suspect she'll have a redesign alongside the rest of the returnees.
Akuma was in Tekken 7, and now Terry and Mai are coming to Street Fighter 6. Next time, we should have a Tekken character in KOF/FF (or the circle expands with another game).
Wasn't t SNK bought by Saudi's so they may be throwing some crazy cash incentives to studios for promoting their characters in the wider fighting game world and other platforms
@@user-gy9eb1tq5q city of the wolf comes out in 2025 and Terry will be in Street Fighter 6 before that and Street Fighter is the bigger title. Having that further exposure to your main male and female character before your next release to stir interest to wider audience and create fans is a great marketing strategy. So more people will give City of the Wolves a go. Many people are not familiar with SNK characters because they grew up with more successful titles like Street fighter and Tekken. With this being first cross over characters in a mainline street fighter that's not another Capcom character (Asuka from Rival Schools) it's a pretty big deal.
@@skullfullofbats Street player wont tolerate the graphic of CotW. If SNK devs are smart enough, they wont think this promotion will work. So I still think they won throw money at CAPCOM for guest characters.
@@user-gy9eb1tq5q perhaps. It's purely a theory. Many people are not concerned with graphics specially in fighting games and more open to seeing characters in different art styles, more so than actual graphical quality. Animation and move sets matter most. It's a good ploy. We are already seeing SNK developing old arcades titles, metal slug getting a tactical RPG, large amount of mobile games and merchandise from art books to plushies. This could be further investment in the future of SNK and potentially a further opportunity to gauge interest in reigniting an old partnership with Capcom for and VS game. Geese in Tekken 7 done a lot for sales and exposure.
All I ask is Capcom, please let SNK try again and give us SvC2. Their recent track record is so strong I think they'd kill it with SvC (and would give them the time to make it whilst they aren't under fret of going under).
Yeah especially since the Tekken X Street fighter part of the collab seems absolutely dead due to the failure of the Street Fighter x Tekken. My personal tin foil hat theory is that including Akuma in Tekken 7 was somewhat of a salvaging of whatever was in development for Tekken x Street Fighter before it got canned.
@@luketfer That is absolutely correct. Fahkumram doesn't resemble Sagat in sillhouette and nationality just by accident. It's more an open secret at this point.
My problem isn't that there are Guests in SF6; my issue is that in a 4 character pass, two of the characters are Guests, and both are from the same series, while a huge section of the SF roster is still benched. If it was a larger pass (say 5 or 6 characters) or Capcom had just picked Terry OR Mai, I think people would be a lot less annoyed. It's cool that SNK is included in SF finally, but getting TWO reps before people finally get Dudley, Viper, Makoto, Sean etc. back is frustrating. For comparison, SFV's Season 2 was: Akuma, Kolin, Abigail, Menat and Zeku. I think it's extra frustrating for Viper players because Capcom CONSTANTLY name drops and shows Viper off or mentions her in-game, and then just never does anything with it.
Man it feels surreal that these two are in SF6!! as for their costumes funny thing is nakayama san the director of SF6 is the biggest fan of fatal fury real bout 2 and mai has her costume from that game!! Same with Terry! He's a fatal fury fan and i am sure when we see more details he's gonna talk about these stuff in detail! I really cannot wait 😭❤
MVC was great from the novelty of seeing comic book characters in a Capcom game, but Capcom vs SNK was the real culmination of 90’s arcade fighters for me.
Absolutely opens the floodgates for anything. Also - with amount of concentrated thirst in this game now, if Morrigan doesn’t end up in SF6 I’ll eat several hats.
It shouldn't open the floodgates for everything tho, that's a big fear people have and I understand it coming from MK where their reliance on guests ruined rosters in those games. Capcom should be really sparing with guest characters
@@iceman00behave see that's fine, I'd even take Heihachi or another Tekken character but they just have to be smart with it. Freddy Kruger was cool and funny in MK9 and I feel like the series has just been suffering from that decision ever since
Max, Im a huge FREAKIN FAN man since the beginning. I normally don't like to write comments on TH-cam and i don't have a twitch account but I've posted here and there on your videos before. I hope one day you read this post man, Idk if you ever noticed about the new Mark of the Wolves art style ? It reminds me a lot of an article that Japan released on April 1st many years ago on Capcom vs. SNK 3, If you ever search it again you can see that the post has a screenshot of CVS 3 game and that art style looks so much like the new Mark of the Wolves game but better. I feel that they might come out with a new CVS 3 game with Mark of the Wolves art style with comparison of the April 1st article. Especially with everything thats happening right now, with the first teaser of Mark of Wolves i knew something looked familiar with that art style. Hopefully we can finally get a Capcom vs Snk 3 !
This might be Capcom testing waters to see if there's a reason to entertain the idea of CvS3. If KoF15 or the new Fatal Fury game is going to get a Street Fighter guest character then there's a bigger chance for us to receive a very long-awaited crossover between two fighting game giants later down the line (unfortunately, that'd be in like 3-4 years from now on at best if things will go the way we want them to imo).
As much as I'd love to see another CvS, having Terry and Mai being a guest characters is confirmation that it's not happening anytime soon. My reasoning is that bringing them in is a cheaper and more quicker return on investment. I mean in the last 10 years how many times have guest characters in games resulted in a follow up cross-over? Hoping to be wrong and willing to admit it but as always my faith in the people calling the shots at these companies isn't strong.
"We haven't gotten a new fighting game collection in over 2 years and usually Capcom releases a collection every 2-ish years, and we haven't gotten one yet." Well. It wasn't SNK. But it was probably even better.
Wasn't Mai in like the first voiced trailer for COTW? We've known she's gonna be in the game almost the entire time Also not sure why he kept saying they're not the fatal fury designs just because Garou and COTW redesigned Terry
Essentially, it has become a river of emotions, though I understand where they're coming from: SF hasn't had "guest characters" ever and there are probably more important "forgotten" characters from older games (Personally, I miss Remy and Maki) to add than Terry and Mai, who aren't even SF characters or if they wanted to add an SNK guest, they should've stuck with Terry But this move from Capcom and SNK is important because they need to advertise their works: Capcom "might" be using this to gauge interest for a CvS collection and SNK needs to spread word of "Garou: City of Wolves", because outside of fighting game fans and Smash fans who decided to "expand their horizons", few people are aware of the existence of Fatal Fury as a franchise There's also the fact KOF All Stars had recently added several SF characters and now Capcom did the same, which means this might lead to a new CvS or SvC
I'm just happy both these companies are in a position to make this crossover at all. Ten years ago Capcoms reputation was in the gutter and snk was a fucking pachinko company. The fgc has truly made it out of the mud if these two are able to do this crossover and everyone is happy about it.
I'll also add Dead or Alive and Virtua fighter to the mix. Other games like Guilty Gear , Darkstalkers and Samurai Shodown should also crossover, but those have more weird characters
Sherry Nhan, thank you for looking out for Marn. 1 of our FGC brothers. And Marn, I do wish you a heathy & speedy recovery. Get well soon if you can my friend 🙏
I feel like I'm the only one not terribly surprised by this news. Part of SNK's strategy to rebuild their brand as as one of the foremost players in the fighting game space has been to put their characters into as many different fighting game franchises as they could. Terry is also in Smash Ultimate and Fighting EX Layer, Mai and Kula Diamond are in DOA6, Haohmaru is in Soul Calibur VI, and Geese Howard is in Tekken 7 with Akuma. There are probably some others I'm forgetting. SNK getting a character into a Street Fighter game (and Street Fighter inevitably relenting on guest characters) seemed inevitable. Maybe Rugal will be in MK1 next. That would be surprising.
One point of confusion for me, why does Max refer to Terry and Mai as this being their CvS outfits? These are their normal, default, character designs - is it not?
I'd even go as far as to say that they are wearing their Fatal Fury costumes. Not CvS, not KoF, not any other crossover game, but OG Fatal Fury costumes.
to me this its a termometer after sf6 AND City of the wolves timespam finishes if those dlc on sf 6 and city of the wolves(which likely will have ryu and chun-li as dlc) be sucessful we il have a higher chance of a cvs 3 in 5 years or more
I just really hope Capcom doesn't start making their main focus only crossover characters for SF6. Super excited for Terry, but I really wanna see more returning fighters reimagined for SF6. That said, if they can pull in SF EX characters, Skullomania would be perfect.
If Street Fighter limits its crossovers to SNK and maybe Namco, but mostly just SNK, I think I'm okay with it. What I don't want is something like what Mortal Kombats after 9 have been, which is effectively MK X WB. Don't just draw crossovers from anywhere. If Capcom limits its crossovers to its compatriots in classic fighting game history, mostly SNK, I'm okay with that. Be very discriminating.
10:05 100% SNK, I'd love to see what they'd do now considering how great KoFXV is (favourite modern FG atm) and how Fatal Fury is shaping up. As for Mai & Terry I suspect since Mai hasn't offically been revealed yet (we heard her voice in the 1st teaser though) I suspect their CotW designs will be saved for costume 2 and instead go with their classic designs now.
Love the background music, I see what you’re doing there My friends and I loved this game so many hours on our Xboxes in highschool and college It had so many dynamics like putting all four of your tokens into one character or having many to chose from We’d settle so many bets with a battle of two level four shin akuma!
It's also crazy they straight added *two* guests from the same franchise at once. Most crossovers in fighting games typically just have one at a time, so you know they're confident about this.
I almost believe for a fact that this means capcom vs snk 3 is in the works. If it was just terry, than it would be an interesting guest character, but with the inclusion of another snk character like mai. I am almost sure they already worked on other less popular characters from snk, on the RE engine! Let alone, capcom is doing a cross over with street fighter for the first time here. Capcom vs snk 3 is confirmed here, im calling it!
I’m both excited and disappointed at the same time. I’m glad they are including characters from other franchises, but if we are getting only 4 DLC characters a season with the paltry initial character roster then many favorites are going to left out of this game and that is unfortunate.
8:58 SVC chaos plus is a mod on the arcade version to be able to play as all the hidden bosses But the console version of SVC chaos already lets you do that Also it would be neat for match of the millenium to join the collection so we can have online play
Max, those aren't the "KOF" versions of Terry and Mai. Those have always been their classic Fatal Fury looks. Hell, Mai specifically is based on her "Real Bout Fatal Fury" design. Not saying that a CVS3 couldn't happen, but these designs were chosen because they're easily the most iconic. When you're adding in guest characters, it's best to go with the versions that most people would be familiar with. They've used these versions in other crossovers because of how iconic they are.
I noticed Mais design is absolutely her classic look, without her ninja Tabi socks, and Terry looks as classic as he can look, so they are certainly paying homage to their original designs, and I’m personally all for that!
Why did Max say "Elena is not a 3rd strike character" and how does Dudley and Sean represent 3rd strike and not Elena when they all debuted in new generations. Did he forget that fast?
They didn't need to take up 50% of year 2 though, terry is fine, but wasting another dire slot on mai when you also bring a kind of hated character like elena is BEYOND bold. I can see a lot of people not buying this season because it's so underwhelming. I'm not gonna bother with it personally, doesn't have any interesting character to me and i'll have to wait 1+ year to maybe get excited again, a huge let down. Also terry is basically everywhere, he's not that unique anymore, Iori would've been a lot more hype imo.
yeah thats what im saying. terry is cool and all, but hes been in so many crossovers that it makes me feel like im getting tired of seeing him. i love kazuya but that doesnt mean i want him in every single fighting game known to man, which is exactly what it feels like with terry.
@@pockettwo Exactly, I would've prefered something fresh, like Iori/rock. The addition is a huge thing for SF, but if they're wasting slots every season now a lot of people will be pissed.
I think Capcom didn’t want to release Terry and Mai just yet. I think because of the S2 DLC leak a month or 2 ago they decided to put a few characters on hold. Reveal some of the ones mentioned (Elena/M.Bison) and expedite the guest characters they had lined up to reveal in place of the characters put on hold.
"expediting" guest characters is totally out of the question with how much more cross-company back-and-forth work is required to make them. I believed maybe like half of the "leaked" characters could potentially make year 2, maybe one or two for year 3, and I got one from each of these guesses in year 2. That "leak" was debunked anyways so I'm not even considering it for year 3. Y'all gotta let go of that one. It sounds like some of the more hardcore SF people are disappointed with this year 2 selection being half guests from the same franchise, and a villain who couldn't even stay dead for more than one season back by popular demand. But that just gives me hope we'll have an even better roster for year 3 on top of the newly-announced batch looking like they'll all be amazingly fun to play. Bison's gameplay trailer definitely didn't disappoint.
10:45 - I'm old enough to remember when there were some people that wanted to see characters like Jin Satome, Strider, & Capt. Commando in CvS2, and I remember the attitude back then was that there were people wanted them to stay in Marvel because CvS was a "serious fighter." That's one of the things I did like about SvC: Chaos was their roster was more out-there. I agree with the notion that SNK should be the one to make a modern crossover if it comes.
I hate cross overs in games unless its specifically a cross over game. I don't mind Terry and Mai but I REALLY I don't want SF turning into a freakshow of Master Chief vs Scooby Doo.
I get the historical context and all... But this is the same situation MK is getting where 50% of the DLC is guest characters where characters that didnt get to return for decades in their own franchise get to sit out again for potentially another decade. I'll give capcom that at the very least these are videogame characters that also has a history of interacting with SF characters (heck i'd be the first to be excited if they added Allen Snider or even Ramlethal) but this on top of the fact they could not commit to a new vilain without returning Bison for 1 game... If that becomes the standard for later seasons, if you have a niche pick for your most wanted like Necro or something you better rely on luck cause otherwise its just not happening in sf6 and its another decade of waiting..
To be fair nich picks are going to be long shots no matter what you have to remember they want to sell the DLC to as many people as possible and you just don't get that with Necro
People will always miss out in some way. Guest characters are not going going away anytime soon in fighting games. Smash Bros Ultimate showed other companies how hype guest characters are (probably profits ofc too.) It's similar to Capcom making remakes of Resident Evil games. There will always be people who complain they didn't do the OG camera angles on the old games or changed a lot of the game to make it fresh. I'm not saying those opinions are wrong. I'm saying it's impossible to fulfill expectations of everybody's wish for the next fighter(s) in a fighting game. Especially for franchises that have existed for 20+ years.
The Bison thing is what I'm most upset over. He looks so cool and I'm probably gonna play him but JP is just non existent now and I thought he was a really rad new villain
The thing that bums me out about this is that it now feels less likely that we get guest characters from the less well known capcom games. Akira was amazing in 5, and also got me hyped up because I loved Rival Schools. When guest characters frkm actually popular game series from other companies are on the table, why would they keep bringing in characters from things like Rival Schools? And its not like Capcom are going to make a new Rival Schools game - so this was the only place I'd get to see those characters come back. I'd be way more excited if we got someone like Leo from Red Earth even. We're never getting a new Red Earth game, but we'll keep getting new KoF games. That's why the Terry and Mai reveals left me feeling disappointed.
Bison cloned himself multiple times before he died, it's not the real Bison just one of his clones. That's why he doesn't remember being M. Bison but looks the same
I’m glad Mai has a chance to beat up on Ryu after Sakurai said she was to thicc to Smash.
Sakurai wasn't the one responsible, it was CERO
He definitely wanted her, but you know, Nintendo...
CERO, not Nintendo @@SvenS2
@@pablocasas5906 Yeah, the issue was the translation. I think he plainly said that they couldn't feature Mai in Smash because of CERO, but the subtitles said they didn't put her in because Smash is a game for good boys and girls. It's hilarious, but it's also a really dumb choice.
I got over it once we got Pyra and Mythra.
Terry Bogard is never a "wasted slot" -- I don't care where he is.
Mai didn't need to be in the first pass tbh.
@@emanuellinnear3209 Well she isnt. Although she shouldnt have been in this second pass either
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Hakan would have been better, thats how much of a wasted spot Terry is.
Indeed
I'm happy that Terry was amongst the first guest characters to crossover in a main Street Fighter game, my man deserves it :))
Feels poetic that he's the first true guest in SF
Terry is the first true 3rd party crossover in Street Fighter. Street Fighter already have their first party crossover from Final Fight (a lot) and then we have Akira from Rival School in SF5
Agreed 👍
Terry 🇺🇸 and Ryu 🇯🇵 are my 2 all time favorites! So I’m selfishly excited 😁
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WE NEED SNK VS CAPCOM 3 FRIENDS!!!
NO, WE NEED CAPCOM VS SNK 3
SvC 2, I'll take SNK doing it again
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SvC3 would be more hype for me, I'd love to play SNK's take on characters like Menat, Luke, etc.! However, I won't complain if CvS3 is done instead! Just, let my beloved characters be good this time around, haha. Only SNK character I really love playing in CvS2 is Haohmaru
I honestly just need Kyo Kusanagi in a crossover. Bro is the 1st MC of SNK's most popular fighter, and all he gets is mobile game appearances.
That would be awesome but mark of the wovles has to sell well or sf6 will become over time the new snk vs cap
SNK probably has a standard template for Terry and Mai for crossovers. He looks the same as he did in FEXL and smash. They probably want one recognizable look for every crossover so he is easily identifiable regardless of the style.
Very much leaning towards this. This crossover by itself is monumental enough, the art style tin foil hat comment was not necessary
Very likely. Ryu's not showing up other places in his latest hobo form, he's clean safe karate boi version that even grandma recognizes.
He'll probably also have his Garou costume as a second costume.
@@cinnabarsin4288except for the time he became an robot to fight dinosaurs
It makes sense for terry but not for mai imo. To me, having Mai chosen confirms to me that capcom has been working on the capcom vs snk roster for a while now.
All I have to say is Takashi Nishiyama. One of the two creators of Street Fighter and creator of Fatal Fury.
These aren't just regular guest characters.
And he also founded Dimps, who was the developer responsible for Street Fighter IV
Going off this logic, a few other series to watch out for:
* Darkstalkers
* Art of Fighting
* Mega Man (not a fighter but yes)
* Fighting Layer/SFEX
* The Rumble Fish
This is basically going full circle on how both franchises were made. Quite clever
We must never forget, keep on reminding em.
@@Rivarham I was thinking the same thing. Also, my understanding is that CotW may be the final chapter of the FF saga. If that's the case, having SF6 celebrate FF's legacy seems fitting to me.
I guess it's just because that is both Terry and Mai's most iconic look. But with Garou on the way I'm kind of surprised they aren't those versions of the characters, especially since everyone else in the SF universe is their oldest selves. Maybe it will be their alternate outfits or something.
Considering we havent seen Mai's redesign yet probably wouldn't want to spoil that.
Garou Terry is 1000% gonna be his alt
I'm also wondering, what it is going to be Terry's stage? He has had a lot of very iconic stages, particularly the train from Fatal Fury 2 and Mark of the Wolves, but I also like the beach stages from Fatal Fury 3 and Real Bout Special and there's also the desert from Real Bout 2 which was featured in KoF XIII.
As for Mai, I hope that's not similar to Ryu's stage in this game, with the sakura tree, since she had a similar-looking stage in RB2
They probably want one look that is easily recognizable in different styles. If you saw him in Smash you will recognize him in SF6.
Skin 2 obviously
This is important for the world of fighting games and the FGC because if this leads to Capcom vs. SNK 3, that in my opinion would be the ultimate celebration of fighting games.
It would seem like the best time now. I get it 20 years ago when SNK was fighting off money issues and fighting games were declining, but now that the genre is thriving and these two companies are thriving... IT'S TIME FOR CVS3
Perspective matters a lot. For me as a fan of both Capcom and SNK, I 100% agree but an MVC4 announcement would be equally huge. Hell I'd argue even now, SNK gains more from this crossover than Capcom to be dead ass honest.
You overestimate how many people care about SNK
@@tokyobassistyou have problems with Disney forcing to use the Cinematic universe rather than the comics/animated series. So that one is a bit hard plus Infinite was a flop.
@@eduardoalvarez4457 We did get 97, so we could possibly just get COTA2.
The designs are specifically based off their Fatal Fury designs and it's definitely a crossover related to said series rather than just KOF, the reason why we haven't seen their COTW designs is because Mai's look wasn't revealed as of yet so they'll probably be alternate costumes.
Specifically, Real Bout Fatal Fury. What's odd to me, they are surprisingly much younger than the OG SF cast.
@@surftCapcom probably doesn’t really care about fitting Terry and Mai into the chronology and story of Street Fighter given they’re guest characters. They’re coming to the game in a dope-ass crossover, and that’s enough.
Not really @@surft
No. Just the regular Hungry Wolf Legend 2 designs @@surft
This feeling... it's just like when Terry showed up to Smash.
To this day I'm still sad that Terry's appearance in Smash was leaked by a copyright. I mean, it only listed SNK but people were quick to assume that it would be Terry
It feels way bigger honestly, for the future of a new crossover game, aaah, I'm hyped
@@pablocasas5906I find it funny that at the time Terry’s Smash reveal fans thought he was “irrelevant” when he had more game appearances than some of the characters that were constantly requested for dlc. It’s even funnier that Terry would later end up getting another KOF game, a new Fatal Fury game since 1999, and now a guest spot in the latest Street Fighter.
Luke has never looked happier. ” Hell yeah! This is only my second appearance and we're getting guest characters? YES!!"
@@ADTribalChild This isn't even the first time they saw each other. Their first encounter was actually in KOF All Stars, a mobile game.
A thing that I've mentioned to some ppl is that I don't think a lot of new age fighting game fans know how important/prolethic SNK is to the world of fighting games. Seeing SNK doing their thing and doing well these past several years and now having this with SF6 just brings me back to the good ol days and I am VERY excited for this batch of characters
did you mean "prolific"?
lets be real, Playmore nearly killed all of their franchises if it wasn't for the metal slug franchise keeping the SNK brand relevant
hell i didn't even know they were making fighting games after the NEST Saga if it wasn't for years later on TH-cam with all the KoF 13 combo challenge
@@MansMan42069 yes
@@GarethXLTBF, Playmore era had some great games like Kof 2002/02UM, 98UM, Kof XI, NGBC and Kofi XIII, but yeah by that point the damage had already been done.
The coolest thing is: Capcom and SNK are in their PRIME again. Now its the time to spend some of that money into FUN projects.
"...Marvel vs. Capcom. And THAT ain't lookin' so good."
THE WHEEL OF FATE IS TURNING.
One thing that kinda makes me think this is indeed a bigger deal than we think is because Capcom actually WANTED to promote this as a big deal. They could probably show Bison and the SF fans would be pleased from the summer game fest, but they actually had an entire animation dedicated to hype this crossover.
It may be looking way in too deep, after all, being the first crossover characters on a SF game is a big enough deal, but i dont know. My guts tell me that there is a reason why Capcom pushed the announcement in such a big stage, when you could think Terry and Mai are niche characters, Bison alone would get more casual reactions.
Niche characters to kids who wasn't around when arcade games ment something.
WTH! niche characters? really?, not everyone is American, Asians in general love SNK and they are a huge market, also Latin America loves SNK too
Niche for US, for the rest of the world are huge Deal.
I always wondered how many kids got that demo disc that came with the PS1 in 1995/96 that had KOF on it. Because of that demo disc, Terry was one of the first fighting game characters I remember.
@@nonmetateams4278 hell yeah LATAM loves SNK too
Don't forget the fighting game dev round table they were doing back at the end of SF5's lifespan. it was PRETTY CLEAR those devs wanted to work together then if they all got together for collective reveals and celebrating each other publicly
Thank you Sakurai.
At first I thought this was just funny. But then I started thinking about this unironically.
If I had a nickel for every time Terry was added as a dlc character to a fighting game that featured Ryu and Ken and released in Autumn, I'd have 2 Nickels which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice.
What about the original 2 capcom vs snk games and snk chaos?
@toledochristianmatthew9919 They didn't have dlc, dood.
ha.....h...a..............................a
If I had a nickel for every time I've seen this meme, I'd have 4,000 nickels. Which is a lot, but I'd give it all up to never see the meme again.
@@Eidlones Oh go back to Fortnite you edgy boy.
This very morning, my brother and I were having a conversation over this. My brother believes that this DLC is Capcom "testing the waters" as he put in. If it is successful, the possibility of a brand new CVS game would grow higher.
I added to the subject, since I believe that SNK should answer in turn and add a Capcom character to the City of the Wolves roster. My brother and I agreed on which character should be: Ken. It's _got_ to be Ken. It *_must_* be Ken.
Although I do fancy the idea of a compilation of all the CVS games.
It’s gonna be Luke
@@SilentKGamingBEAST MODE BABY
I would rather have a capcom team in the next KOF (XVI) when it comes out in a few years, that would be amazing! but it would be really hard for me to pick the 3 members.
@@nonmetateams4278Ryu, Ken, Chun-Li. Keep it simple.
@@AhmedX8 counterpoint, Ryu Chun Li Guile, to keep the gameplay varied
Capcom vs SNK 3 probably isn't gonna happen, but at least we have "Street Fighter vs 5% of SNK"
The "CvS3" sequel we all want would be Capcom vs. SNK vs. Namco, since we've already had a taste in Tekken 7 and Smash Ultimate
More like 1%
This is just starting to become a thing. No me expects a game announcement. But you know for fact since Terry and Mai are coming, they had to same conversation about Akuma and a plus one to fly out to Southtown
If they are having these conversations, it sounds pretty promising
Isn't Elena....a 3rd Strike character???
correct, elena is a 3rd strike character. max was maximilian trippin'.
Elena was in 3rd strike but she didn't originate there, she was from New generation
Maybe he meant she didn't exclusively appear in SF3, like Remy, Q, Sean or those weird freaks?
She’s a SF3 character in general.
Elena is a _Street Fighter 3_ character.
It kinda feels like Sakurai did this, indirectly
Sakurai was the small earthquake happening in the middle of the ocean. We might be seeing the ripple effects of his work
Wtf are you talking about? Quit glazing sakurai. He didn't create crossover games and wasn't the first to put Terry Bogard in a different i.p. You Nintendo heads make me want to vomit.
Perfect guest characters. This is awesome.
For sure, getting me back into SF6 for them alone.
I think just Terry is enough
Agreed 👍
Sf6 has been quite fun all around for me, but I just want a new main, and the new boys and girls aren't for me.
This crossover really sparked my interest for the game again
I don't get why he keeps saying these are the CvS versions, "The classic KoF versions" these are exactly what they look like in Fatal Fury???? Fatal Fury came before KoF, This is how Terry and Mai have always looked until Garou...
Fr they were like that in Fatal Fury 2 in 1991
Terry's most iconic look is his Fatal Fury 2 one, with the sleeves on his shirt torn off, in his Fatal Fury 3 and Real Bout appearence the sleeves on his shirt were intact. But from Real Bout Special onwards he kept his FF2 appearence, save for his Mark of the Wolves look being used in KoF 2003 and XI, and he also had an original look in KoF XIV
Both Street Fighter and Fatal Fury were created by Takashi Nishiyama, it can be seen as a nice tribute to him. Very glad Fatal Fury was the first 3rd party game to make an appearance in the Street Fighter world, it couldn't be another fighting game. Capcom is the best.
100% agreed. 👍
Terry Bogard: the hungry wolf power waves the street fighter universe
We’re getting *Terry Bogard* in a Street Fighter game. I repeat. *We are getting Terry ‘Busterwolf’ Bogard.*
For the first time in a long time, I can proudly say “Yes, Terry, I *_am_* okay. I’m very okay.*
I prefer Terry "triple geyser" Bogard but to each his own
I'm not hugely into Street Fighter having guest characters, but now that it's happening, I'm glad they went with Fatal Fury guests. Those characters feel like they could belong in Street Fighter, although it would've been cooler to see a City of Wolves version of Terry since the Street Fighter cast has also been visually aged up from their early appearances.
Regardless, as long as they stick with guest characters that can make sense in the world of Street Fighter, I guess I'm cool with it. If they start adding characters 2B, Geralt of Rivia, or other such unfitting characters just because they're popular, then I'm going to be a bit miffed.
I'm sure his motw/cotw design will be his costume 2
Totally agree with you
As long as guest characters don't start taking up too many slots that should have gone to veterans
Why do I picture a modern SF6 version of Sean having the Killmonger haircut?( Eddie Gordo, Miles, etc!)
Because that’s what is going to happen if he ever gets added again
@@grandoblivion5268 😂
I know its probably gonna happen but at the same time I really hope they don't Sean dirty like that
TBF, Sean's hairstyles in SF3 and SF5 are already not too far off from the Killmonger style.
Played mh rise sun break one of the researchers the black elf dude has that stupid haircut it's everywhere
One thing I've seen people speculating as the "next step" from this is for either Street Fighter characters to appear as guest characters in City of the Wolves, or for King of Fighters to end up getting a "Team Street Fighter" in it. I could see Capcom letting that happen as a testing ground before SNK gets to do "SNK vs Capcom 2".
Let's set the record straight. SNK has oil money, yes. But the Osaka studio, where the fighting game division is, won't be utilizing it. That's specifically going to their new Tokyo studio where they'll be exclusively making new IPs. COTW was in development long before the buyout.
Edit: Okay it seems some people misunderstood my comment. This isn't in defense of SNK being owned by the Saudis, I personally don't care about that. I was more getting at how it wouldn't be a good idea for SNK to develop CvS3 (or SvC2). They won't have the budget to make the game presentable nor will they have the content for the casual audience.
The Saudi's bought around 5% stock of Capcom back in 2022. There's no way to really spin it into anything but "Yeah this sucks but I do want CVS3."
The only way to show you care about the political aspect is simply not buying which nobody will do.
Uh no that's not how it works, the entire company benefits from the investment. I don't even know how you came to that conclusion.
Love how a comment about people getting a potential snk vs Capcom game devolved into :it's owned by people that aren't Japanese so don't buy the game ,who tf cares who bought what ,if it gets the people a new snk vs Capcom game let the people enjoy it . Jeeze. Douche
You know too much
@tuxedomat it's called being informed and he's right
Making Itsuno and fans choose between Devil May Cry 6 and CVS3 is beyond cruel.
It's actually been so long now since Devil May Cry 5 that a remale of the first game has actually become a real possible option for Capcom to pursue.
I would bet Itsuno wouldn't hesitate to jump on CVS3 or Rival Schools 3 though. Opportunities like this don't come often. I do think people should delete the idea of it being 3v3/2v2/tag/assist based and expect something very different just like how the first two entries are massively different.
Imagine if CVS3 had Devil May Cry characters in it
@@Wedge_Khan 😭
"MVC isn’t going anywhere any soon…" 10 days later😂 exciting
I want Sean in SF6 more than anything, but they just gave me Terry? I will gladly sit down and stfu.
Yeah, as a huge KoF fan who also loves SF, when I saw Terry show up I sat back in my chair like “Wow.”
Same here😂😂😂
His name is luke godamnit
I think the reason Terry and Mai were added as guest characters in Street Fighter 6 is because by the time Winter 2025 (January) Elena added comes, Fatal Fury City of the Wolves will be released. However there should an exchange in which any Street Fighter character as guest in the upcoming Fatal Fury game mentioned.
Now i gotta keep my ears open. For any Capcom related joke in the Wolervine and Deadpool movie.
Let them mention the Street fighter universe once, the tin foil hat is ON
Don't do it bro. The cope will only hurt you.
@psykomancer4420 oh I'm sure it'll be a 0.00000000000003% chance Wolverine is a guest character in sf6 but that'll be my wild guest guess for now lol
I mean….street fighter characters did randomly appear appear as silhouettes in a scene in a deadpool comic, as well as him doing a shoryuken to goad Wolverine to attack him
Deadpool is gonna throw an uppercut and scream Shoryuken.
Oh man, with this opening the gates to guest characters, my mind was already imagining if they could manage to sneak a Marvel character in here. People would go nuts if they nabbed Spiderman/Miles, Doctor Doom, Hulk or She Hulk, Iron Fist, Luke Cage, Kingpin, Daredevil, Magneto, there's so many possibilities that would fit the style of SF6 really well.
i'm commenting first to deny the "___ views in ____ seconds bro fell off :skull:" comments, i'm doing a civil service
3 likes in two minutes, bro fell off 🗿
I have never seen such a mediocre joke be run into the ground so fast yet people still think it’s funny for some reason
You did lived long enough to become one with the first comments
@@wielderofthetriforce1934 The joke was never funny, the people who find it unfunny are the joke.
@@Kirbymaster105 HA!....haven't heard that one before
I think that the reason Terry is like that is both CVS and that the Garou jacket is gonna be costume 2. This is definitely them testing the waters for a CVS3
Yeah, especially seeing how Terry and Mai wore their most iconic looks from Fatal Fury 2 while Elena and M. Bison had their new looks. Like Max said, Terry will probably have his Mark of the Wolves look, but Mai's alternate look is going to be interesting since she's never had another iconic look, there's her look from Fatal Fury 3 and Real Bout, but it wasn't that different from her original appearance, I know there's also her appearance from Maximum Impact but that doesn't really count. I'm wondering that if Mai appears as a playable character in City of the Wolves and she has a new look just like Terry and Andy have, maybe her alternate costume in SF6 would be that one
@@pablocasas5906 We already had her voice bite appear in the teaser trailer for CotW, she's all but confirmed, so I suspect she'll have a redesign alongside the rest of the returnees.
Mai will be in city of the wolves though, you can hear her voice in one of the trailers along with hokutomaru but grown up
The beginning was that fighting games devs get together at Tokyo Game Show during the pandemic.
I still cant believe that this is happening!
Akuma was in Tekken 7, and now Terry and Mai are coming to Street Fighter 6. Next time, we should have a Tekken character in KOF/FF (or the circle expands with another game).
Street Fighter devs said they wanted to work with SNK again a few years ago. Same interview where they said they didnt want to do an MK crossover
DUDLEY FANS UNITE! Let's start a petition for Dudley to make it to Season 3!
You have my signature!
Mine too, i want Dudley's Rolling Thunder as my Level 3/Critical Art
Cross Counter
We'll show them our dignity.
Im hoping for a free update
Wasn't t SNK bought by Saudi's so they may be throwing some crazy cash incentives to studios for promoting their characters in the wider fighting game world and other platforms
Yeah, throwing money to ask CAPCOM put their characters in at the timing Cotw roll out to draw focus to other game. Did that make sense ?
@@user-gy9eb1tq5q city of the wolf comes out in 2025 and Terry will be in Street Fighter 6 before that and Street Fighter is the bigger title. Having that further exposure to your main male and female character before your next release to stir interest to wider audience and create fans is a great marketing strategy. So more people will give City of the Wolves a go. Many people are not familiar with SNK characters because they grew up with more successful titles like Street fighter and Tekken. With this being first cross over characters in a mainline street fighter that's not another Capcom character (Asuka from Rival Schools) it's a pretty big deal.
@@skullfullofbats Street player wont tolerate the graphic of CotW. If SNK devs are smart enough, they wont think this promotion will work. So I still think they won throw money at CAPCOM for guest characters.
@@user-gy9eb1tq5q perhaps. It's purely a theory. Many people are not concerned with graphics specially in fighting games and more open to seeing characters in different art styles, more so than actual graphical quality. Animation and move sets matter most. It's a good ploy. We are already seeing SNK developing old arcades titles, metal slug getting a tactical RPG, large amount of mobile games and merchandise from art books to plushies. This could be further investment in the future of SNK and potentially a further opportunity to gauge interest in reigniting an old partnership with Capcom for and VS game. Geese in Tekken 7 done a lot for sales and exposure.
@@user-gy9eb1tq5qI always play kof & sf. I don't particularly like sf6 graphics, but I like COTW style graphic. It's a matter of preference.
All I ask is Capcom, please let SNK try again and give us SvC2. Their recent track record is so strong I think they'd kill it with SvC (and would give them the time to make it whilst they aren't under fret of going under).
Fatal Fury potentially get SF6 guest characters.
Capcom vs Snk >>>>> marvel vs capcom ANY DAY!
My dream of having Kazuya in SF6 is now possible
Perfect for representing SF x Tk, and making Tekken's Akuma moment come full circle
Yeah especially since the Tekken X Street fighter part of the collab seems absolutely dead due to the failure of the Street Fighter x Tekken. My personal tin foil hat theory is that including Akuma in Tekken 7 was somewhat of a salvaging of whatever was in development for Tekken x Street Fighter before it got canned.
You are more than likely right@@luketfer
@@luketfer That is absolutely correct. Fahkumram doesn't resemble Sagat in sillhouette and nationality just by accident.
It's more an open secret at this point.
I hope the crossover lead to Capcom add CvS music for SF6 Jukebox
Love terry so much but Makoto neeeeeeeeeeds to be in SF6
Makoto is boring
Rather have Sakura
@@jondough3339 worldwide polls said otherwise
@@feroce82 and I care, why?
Max is gonna have fun with Mai. That should be fun. Lol!
My problem isn't that there are Guests in SF6; my issue is that in a 4 character pass, two of the characters are Guests, and both are from the same series, while a huge section of the SF roster is still benched.
If it was a larger pass (say 5 or 6 characters) or Capcom had just picked Terry OR Mai, I think people would be a lot less annoyed. It's cool that SNK is included in SF finally, but getting TWO reps before people finally get Dudley, Viper, Makoto, Sean etc. back is frustrating.
For comparison, SFV's Season 2 was: Akuma, Kolin, Abigail, Menat and Zeku.
I think it's extra frustrating for Viper players because Capcom CONSTANTLY name drops and shows Viper off or mentions her in-game, and then just never does anything with it.
Stay salty.
This will be the first time i will buy a season pass for a fighting game, this crossover was insane
While I do think CvS3 is a possibility, I feel like it either be outsourced or made by SNK since they aren’t exactly well-known to the masses.
Man it feels surreal that these two are in SF6!! as for their costumes funny thing is nakayama san the director of SF6 is the biggest fan of fatal fury real bout 2 and mai has her costume from that game!! Same with Terry! He's a fatal fury fan and i am sure when we see more details he's gonna talk about these stuff in detail! I really cannot wait 😭❤
Bro I don't care what anyone says, I can fight KEN AS TERRY AFTER 20 YEARS.
YEAH!
LET'S GOOOOO!!!!
Smash bros
@@ballisticboo7808he means in a fighting game
MVC was great from the novelty of seeing comic book characters in a Capcom game, but Capcom vs SNK was the real culmination of 90’s arcade fighters for me.
Absolutely opens the floodgates for anything.
Also - with amount of concentrated thirst in this game now, if Morrigan doesn’t end up in SF6 I’ll eat several hats.
It shouldn't open the floodgates for everything tho, that's a big fear people have and I understand it coming from MK where their reliance on guests ruined rosters in those games. Capcom should be really sparing with guest characters
@@aledantih6524That may be true, but Morrigan is at least from a Capcom game, and not some multimedia pop culture character from a different company.
@@iceman00behave see that's fine, I'd even take Heihachi or another Tekken character but they just have to be smart with it. Freddy Kruger was cool and funny in MK9 and I feel like the series has just been suffering from that decision ever since
Max,
Im a huge FREAKIN FAN man since the beginning. I normally don't like to write comments on TH-cam and i don't have a twitch account but I've posted here and there on your videos before.
I hope one day you read this post man,
Idk if you ever noticed about the new Mark of the Wolves art style ? It reminds me a lot of an article that Japan released on April 1st many years ago on Capcom vs. SNK 3, If you ever search it again you can see that the post has a screenshot of CVS 3 game and that art style looks so much like the new Mark of the Wolves game but better. I feel that they might come out with a new CVS 3 game with Mark of the Wolves art style with comparison of the April 1st article. Especially with everything thats happening right now, with the first teaser of Mark of Wolves i knew something looked familiar with that art style.
Hopefully we can finally get a Capcom vs Snk 3 !
This might be Capcom testing waters to see if there's a reason to entertain the idea of CvS3. If KoF15 or the new Fatal Fury game is going to get a Street Fighter guest character then there's a bigger chance for us to receive a very long-awaited crossover between two fighting game giants later down the line (unfortunately, that'd be in like 3-4 years from now on at best if things will go the way we want them to imo).
I bet there will be tekken characters also in sf6
As much as I'd love to see another CvS, having Terry and Mai being a guest characters is confirmation that it's not happening anytime soon.
My reasoning is that bringing them in is a cheaper and more quicker return on investment. I mean in the last 10 years how many times have guest characters in games resulted in a follow up cross-over?
Hoping to be wrong and willing to admit it but as always my faith in the people calling the shots at these companies isn't strong.
"We haven't gotten a new fighting game collection in over 2 years and usually Capcom releases a collection every 2-ish years, and we haven't gotten one yet."
Well. It wasn't SNK. But it was probably even better.
I’m on board for a Capcom Vs SNK collection!
Wasn't Mai in like the first voiced trailer for COTW? We've known she's gonna be in the game almost the entire time
Also not sure why he kept saying they're not the fatal fury designs just because Garou and COTW redesigned Terry
The SF subreddit is malding over this. Nice to see
Essentially, it has become a river of emotions, though I understand where they're coming from: SF hasn't had "guest characters" ever and there are probably more important "forgotten" characters from older games (Personally, I miss Remy and Maki) to add than Terry and Mai, who aren't even SF characters or if they wanted to add an SNK guest, they should've stuck with Terry
But this move from Capcom and SNK is important because they need to advertise their works: Capcom "might" be using this to gauge interest for a CvS collection and SNK needs to spread word of "Garou: City of Wolves", because outside of fighting game fans and Smash fans who decided to "expand their horizons", few people are aware of the existence of Fatal Fury as a franchise
There's also the fact KOF All Stars had recently added several SF characters and now Capcom did the same, which means this might lead to a new CvS or SvC
The way i see this is Capcom saying :
"HEY! WE ARE READY TO MAKE FOGHTING GAME COLLAB! ARE YOU?"
wow... i can't believe there are people who are actually COMPLAINING that SNK characters got into Street Fighter.
I'm just happy both these companies are in a position to make this crossover at all. Ten years ago Capcoms reputation was in the gutter and snk was a fucking pachinko company. The fgc has truly made it out of the mud if these two are able to do this crossover and everyone is happy about it.
SF, KoF and Tekken should just make one big crossover at this point with how they've been lending characters to each other the last few years
I'll also add Dead or Alive and Virtua fighter to the mix. Other games like Guilty Gear , Darkstalkers and Samurai Shodown should also crossover, but those have more weird characters
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I feel like I'm the only one not terribly surprised by this news. Part of SNK's strategy to rebuild their brand as as one of the foremost players in the fighting game space has been to put their characters into as many different fighting game franchises as they could. Terry is also in Smash Ultimate and Fighting EX Layer, Mai and Kula Diamond are in DOA6, Haohmaru is in Soul Calibur VI, and Geese Howard is in Tekken 7 with Akuma. There are probably some others I'm forgetting. SNK getting a character into a Street Fighter game (and Street Fighter inevitably relenting on guest characters) seemed inevitable.
Maybe Rugal will be in MK1 next. That would be surprising.
While Im not completely against guest characters.
But Id rather have a full on cross over game over this
One point of confusion for me, why does Max refer to Terry and Mai as this being their CvS outfits? These are their normal, default, character designs - is it not?
I'd even go as far as to say that they are wearing their Fatal Fury costumes. Not CvS, not KoF, not any other crossover game, but OG Fatal Fury costumes.
@@jvcaguiat Terry is technically wearing his Fatal Fury 2 outfit, he had a different one in the original Fatal Fury
I love Max but it kind of goes to show his lack of knowledge to SNK as a whole, or maybe he just isn’t speaking properly lol
@@CountOfMonteCristo_Nah it's just that he really wants a CvS3 so bad. He's just coping
@@pablocasas5906 sort of
to me this its a termometer
after sf6 AND City of the wolves timespam finishes
if those dlc on sf 6 and city of the wolves(which likely will have ryu and chun-li as dlc) be sucessful
we il have a higher chance of a cvs 3 in 5 years or more
I just really hope Capcom doesn't start making their main focus only crossover characters for SF6. Super excited for Terry, but I really wanna see more returning fighters reimagined for SF6.
That said, if they can pull in SF EX characters, Skullomania would be perfect.
If Street Fighter limits its crossovers to SNK and maybe Namco, but mostly just SNK, I think I'm okay with it. What I don't want is something like what Mortal Kombats after 9 have been, which is effectively MK X WB. Don't just draw crossovers from anywhere. If Capcom limits its crossovers to its compatriots in classic fighting game history, mostly SNK, I'm okay with that. Be very discriminating.
I guess some Misc. Capcom characters would be fine, though less so if they're not from dormant IP.
10:05 100% SNK, I'd love to see what they'd do now considering how great KoFXV is (favourite modern FG atm) and how Fatal Fury is shaping up. As for Mai & Terry I suspect since Mai hasn't offically been revealed yet (we heard her voice in the 1st teaser though) I suspect their CotW designs will be saved for costume 2 and instead go with their classic designs now.
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My friends and I loved this game so many hours on our Xboxes in highschool and college
It had so many dynamics like putting all four of your tokens into one character or having many to chose from
We’d settle so many bets with a battle of two level four shin akuma!
It's also crazy they straight added *two* guests from the same franchise at once. Most crossovers in fighting games typically just have one at a time, so you know they're confident about this.
I'm still processing that trailer
I almost believe for a fact that this means capcom vs snk 3 is in the works. If it was just terry, than it would be an interesting guest character, but with the inclusion of another snk character like mai. I am almost sure they already worked on other less popular characters from snk, on the RE engine! Let alone, capcom is doing a cross over with street fighter for the first time here. Capcom vs snk 3 is confirmed here, im calling it!
I’m both excited and disappointed at the same time. I’m glad they are including characters from other franchises, but if we are getting only 4 DLC characters a season with the paltry initial character roster then many favorites are going to left out of this game and that is unfortunate.
8:58 SVC chaos plus is a mod on the arcade version to be able to play as all the hidden bosses
But the console version of SVC chaos already lets you do that
Also it would be neat for match of the millenium to join the collection so we can have online play
Max, those aren't the "KOF" versions of Terry and Mai. Those have always been their classic Fatal Fury looks. Hell, Mai specifically is based on her "Real Bout Fatal Fury" design. Not saying that a CVS3 couldn't happen, but these designs were chosen because they're easily the most iconic. When you're adding in guest characters, it's best to go with the versions that most people would be familiar with. They've used these versions in other crossovers because of how iconic they are.
Yeah, very confused about the KOF comment, this is just good ol’ Terry and Mai.
@@chazmaru9583 Max is extremely ignorant when it comes to SNK, so it's not very surprising he would pull that out of his ass.
I noticed Mais design is absolutely her classic look, without her ninja Tabi socks, and Terry looks as classic as he can look, so they are certainly paying homage to their original designs, and I’m personally all for that!
Why did Max say "Elena is not a 3rd strike character" and how does Dudley and Sean represent 3rd strike and not Elena when they all debuted in new generations. Did he forget that fast?
The potential implications for this in a Marvel x Capcom style fighter are also huge…
A Smash Bros scale roster done like MVC2 would be insane
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They didn't need to take up 50% of year 2 though, terry is fine, but wasting another dire slot on mai when you also bring a kind of hated character like elena is BEYOND bold. I can see a lot of people not buying this season because it's so underwhelming.
I'm not gonna bother with it personally, doesn't have any interesting character to me and i'll have to wait 1+ year to maybe get excited again, a huge let down.
Also terry is basically everywhere, he's not that unique anymore, Iori would've been a lot more hype imo.
yeah thats what im saying. terry is cool and all, but hes been in so many crossovers that it makes me feel like im getting tired of seeing him. i love kazuya but that doesnt mean i want him in every single fighting game known to man, which is exactly what it feels like with terry.
@@pockettwo Exactly, I would've prefered something fresh, like Iori/rock.
The addition is a huge thing for SF, but if they're wasting slots every season now a lot of people will be pissed.
Pop up parade has made 4 SF 6 figures with 2 more on the way so far and out of nowhere has announced a Mai figure. Coincidence? I think not.
I wonder if we’ll see even more in season 3. This game is just too good
Terry Bogard is the best fighting game protagonist ever made.
He's pure charisma. No one beats him.
I think Capcom didn’t want to release Terry and Mai just yet. I think because of the S2 DLC leak a month or 2 ago they decided to put a few characters on hold. Reveal some of the ones mentioned (Elena/M.Bison) and expedite the guest characters they had lined up to reveal in place of the characters put on hold.
"expediting" guest characters is totally out of the question with how much more cross-company back-and-forth work is required to make them. I believed maybe like half of the "leaked" characters could potentially make year 2, maybe one or two for year 3, and I got one from each of these guesses in year 2. That "leak" was debunked anyways so I'm not even considering it for year 3. Y'all gotta let go of that one.
It sounds like some of the more hardcore SF people are disappointed with this year 2 selection being half guests from the same franchise, and a villain who couldn't even stay dead for more than one season back by popular demand. But that just gives me hope we'll have an even better roster for year 3 on top of the newly-announced batch looking like they'll all be amazingly fun to play. Bison's gameplay trailer definitely didn't disappoint.
10:45 - I'm old enough to remember when there were some people that wanted to see characters like Jin Satome, Strider, & Capt. Commando in CvS2, and I remember the attitude back then was that there were people wanted them to stay in Marvel because CvS was a "serious fighter." That's one of the things I did like about SvC: Chaos was their roster was more out-there. I agree with the notion that SNK should be the one to make a modern crossover if it comes.
I hate cross overs in games unless its specifically a cross over game. I don't mind Terry and Mai but I REALLY I don't want SF turning into a freakshow of Master Chief vs Scooby Doo.
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I get the historical context and all... But this is the same situation MK is getting where 50% of the DLC is guest characters where characters that didnt get to return for decades in their own franchise get to sit out again for potentially another decade.
I'll give capcom that at the very least these are videogame characters that also has a history of interacting with SF characters (heck i'd be the first to be excited if they added Allen Snider or even Ramlethal) but this on top of the fact they could not commit to a new vilain without returning Bison for 1 game...
If that becomes the standard for later seasons, if you have a niche pick for your most wanted like Necro or something you better rely on luck cause otherwise its just not happening in sf6 and its another decade of waiting..
To be fair nich picks are going to be long shots no matter what you have to remember they want to sell the DLC to as many people as possible and you just don't get that with Necro
People will always miss out in some way. Guest characters are not going going away anytime soon in fighting games. Smash Bros Ultimate showed other companies how hype guest characters are (probably profits ofc too.)
It's similar to Capcom making remakes of Resident Evil games. There will always be people who complain they didn't do the OG camera angles on the old games or changed a lot of the game to make it fresh.
I'm not saying those opinions are wrong. I'm saying it's impossible to fulfill expectations of everybody's wish for the next fighter(s) in a fighting game. Especially for franchises that have existed for 20+ years.
@@funky_dude709 Even if Capcom were to do by a miracle, and put every single character known, fans would still complain
@@addex1236 Yeah but here's the thing in Necro's case. Dhalsim is in the roster. Necro has destroyed him in the official popularity poll TWICE now.
The Bison thing is what I'm most upset over. He looks so cool and I'm probably gonna play him but JP is just non existent now and I thought he was a really rad new villain
The thing that bums me out about this is that it now feels less likely that we get guest characters from the less well known capcom games. Akira was amazing in 5, and also got me hyped up because I loved Rival Schools. When guest characters frkm actually popular game series from other companies are on the table, why would they keep bringing in characters from things like Rival Schools? And its not like Capcom are going to make a new Rival Schools game - so this was the only place I'd get to see those characters come back.
I'd be way more excited if we got someone like Leo from Red Earth even. We're never getting a new Red Earth game, but we'll keep getting new KoF games. That's why the Terry and Mai reveals left me feeling disappointed.
Did anyone notice that it’s not M. Bison!? In his trailer he just adopts his name because someone called him that! 🔥
Bison cloned himself multiple times before he died, it's not the real Bison just one of his clones. That's why he doesn't remember being M. Bison but looks the same