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I love these deep dives into the murk.
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That's a welcome blast from the past!
I hope after all these years you’ve finally passed Genie school
Vanguard was a major contributing factor for quitting TFT, a game that has minimal utility to cheating and no major cheating issues. I have hundreds, possibly thousands, of games played but I cannot accept using the Riot Clients with Vanguard because I use my computer for work.
You can always use your phone for TFT if you want to play. Zero vanguard
I used to play hyper-roll a lot on mobile but in Diamond/Master lobbies for ranked games it became a bit much to keep up with the rolling, scouting, and buying units.
What is TFT
@@rahatzaman8120 Teamfight tactics, a League version of Dota Auto Chess/autobattler.
Really wish tft had it's own client...
Actually insane that they are making jokes about the very real concerns that people have about their spyware bullshit.
'menacingly'
the riot dev thinks he's hilarious
Genuinely outrageous and if their target audience were adults and not children this would likely be far more scrutinised
Vanguard came out 2 or 3 years ago and the people being skeptical of Vanguard were made fun of by Riot fanboys for being paranoids. Now they are having their PCs bricked by a anti-cheat? All I can say is I told you so.
played league for 14 years and this was the final straw richard. took your advice and switched to dota2. its been fantastically enjoyable learning a new moba. it gives me a feeling i havent felt in a long time of being a new player and getting a chance to learn something new but familiar.
I played since launch but dota 2 as well i just did that after 2 years away from dota 2 i launched LoL vanguard update, i delete it and came back to dota 2. BEST DECISION EVER
@@Zero-di9mz I’m 400 hours in already, been playing cause I knew vanguard was coming. I have friends who are dota veterans and never played league so it’s super fun for me trying to translate my knowledge. I’m having an absolute blast. I’m loving doom, centaur, troll warlord, brewmaster (very fun to practice my micro of multiple units which is just flat out NOT a thing in LoL)
Its honestly wild that Vanguard prevents your PC from booting entirely if certain requirements aren't met (Like UEFI and TPM 2.0 not being enabled). You'd think that properly written anti-cheat would just allow the PC to boot but not allow you to play anything instead of just preventing the entire pc from booting. But its made by Riot so of course its dogshit
Its not really that wild (I AM NOT MAKING EXCUSES FOR THEM, I DESPISE VANGUARD) once you understand how it works, it quite litterly boots BEFORE your operating system.
@@vyyrThat doesn't make sense. There's still no reason for Vanguard to prevent your PC from booting.
@@zettour. 1. it loads up before almost every single driver on your computer, meaning it can mess with them ( many cases of that happening) which could result in bricking your hardware (in some cases permamently, some people had their cpus and gpus fried by it)
2. If tpm or virtualisation are off, it may go into some sort of a boot spiral or just straight up error never going to system boot step.
@@vyyr I know, but that's not a "reason" for Vanguard to do something. Like, you're looking at it from a root cause analysis standpoint. We're talking about how it's wild that Vanguard would even tamper with your system in such a way.
@@vyyr As in, there's no justification for why Vanguard operates like this.
the vigor with which he says DELETED, it made me smile and it made my day!
I quit when vanguard was announced
Made a few comments about how even if you trust the Spyware part there's still the hardware issues
Got told I'm insane
5 months later R/riotgames is filled with vanguard issues
Who could have seen this coming
I was originally on the side of thinking people were overreacting about Vanguard, right up until the day it rolled out and I realised you needed to have it active from boot if you wanted to play LoL. Uninstalled LoL and my Riot client right there and then.
ItsGamerDoc, former esports professional gamer noted for bragging about his accomplishments such as *checks notes*: 4th place at Go4Overwatch Europe Cup 103
A tournament with a 120USD prize pool where everybody he faced is a red name on Liquipedia.
LMFAO
Red named meaning banned?
@@rage9715 It means they don't have a page on Liquipedia and are amateurs .
@@rage9715no, meaning the page doesn’t exist, so it’s just a noname player
@@alexp3577 even worse hahah
Rito: "Vanguard isn't chinese spyware."
My pc: "Whoa, shen-zai, whoa-yo bing-chilling. Whoa han shee whem bing-chilling."
Spyware is a severe understatment of the potential danger here and focusing solely on that part has been the grift of many league content creators ever since vanguard for lol was announced. If CCP gave the orders to turn every single pc with vanguard into a botnet they could, they could go further and spread the infection through home networks into devices without vanguard as well. And that is only focusing on the "giving china unrestricted access to your hardware" problem, the other problem is vanguard becoming being installed on hundreds of millions of devices makes it an incredibly enticing target for hackers, and riot has less than stellar history with getting hacked.
Bing chilling
LMAO
The silence surrounding the rollout from all other areas of media and community is deafening. Very telling
Vanguard was the final straw for me. I finally uninstalled league after years of consistent play. I don't think I was encountering many (if any) cheaters in my league games. Sure, I played against a ton of smurfs who were simply better than me. But little to no cheaters. Something so incredibly invasive from a CHINESE company is not needed for a game like league which does NOT have the cheating problem many FPS games have.
The best part about this is the people defending china and riot like they don't have an extensive history of lying, cover-ups, spying, and doing shady shit. "b-b-b-but they SAID they wouldn't send your data to china so they would never" - I can't even imagine being this naïve.
I've played Lol for 7 years, only saw one cheater that had unreal movement and it was in an ARAM. I don't see why we need an anti-cheat that needs to run 24/7
At least 30% of players quitted due to Vanguard. That's how bad it is. You can check by number of games played in lolalytics by champions that have a stable number of games and extrapolating. You can really pick any champion. Also from Riot own article cheating ramp up way before the leak and the leak barely affect(if it did at all) the number of cheats and that's accord to their own data. They were already planning to run something like this and the leak(if not intentional) was just an excuse.
I don't need to be a cybersecurity expert to know that giving kernel access to a China owned company that already had few major breaches might not be a good idea
But hey some of my friends finally managed to get off the digital drug that is League because of how terrible Vanguard is so silver linings
I dont know if its coincidence or not, but i uninstalled vanguard and all my riot games. But then the internet was noticeable slower, having issues loading pages. I went and saw that a couple of windows updates had erred since i did have it installed. Those windows updates all went through cleanly after the vanguard was gone and that fixed my internet connection.
So careful, vanguard may or may not cause corruption of your windows updates. I dont know why uninstalling it seemed to open the dam for the issues.
There's also a chance it leaves residuals that still run on your PC after the uninstall. Need to do a deep search.
Seeing Riot employees try to gaslight users on Reddit is pathetic. Intentionally using vague tech terms like "Ring -2/SMM" without elaborating to further confuse 99% of their audience that isn't technical to try to deny accountability. I'd be more willing to give them the benefit of the doubt if my friend's Fanatec racing wheel didn't get bricked by Vanguard and my own Corsair liquid cooler and its respective software didn't start malfunctioning. Granted these two situations happened a few weeks after the launch of Valorant but given it's happened in the past, I wouldn't be surprised if it's happening again.
Especially a term as technically vague as Ring-n. The rings are plenty porous up or down, after all, that's how they interact...
Can’t have cheaters if nobody can play the game 😂
lmaoo.
I played valorant for some time few years back but to my defense I was severely mentally ill at the time.
Glad you're out of the asylum brother. Pray for me. I can't break out because of the boobas. Help
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Arch user btw. Why anyone would install software that has kernel access is insane to me. I haven't touched Vanguard since it first came out and tried it out in a VM using Hypervisor but I take it that's no longer possible? Not that I really care cause I wouldn't touch anything Riot with 15 layers of gloves on my hands.
The sum total of the information that many give away on their computers is absolutely staggering. Remember on your computer you have your health information, your familys information, locations, interests, jobs, hobbies, financial information, the businesses you use, sometimes your thoughts and emotions are on there. In a very real way everything that can be totaled up and listed that makes you who you are as a unique person is on that computer. So in a very real way when these companies YOU pay say they have a right to own all of that they are saying they have a right to own you. Most of the world came to the conclusion a long time ago for the good of man that one person cant own another but this is a lot closer than people want to acknowledge. I cant believe we arent standing up for this more. It should be something we never accepted and I have no Idea how we got to this point where everyone just says everyone is doing it.
One thing I have noticed, when it comes to the absurd claims of 1 in 5 or 1in 6 games of League having at least 1 scripter in them is a bit much now-a-days. My last game was earlier this year before they implementation of Vanguard in League, but I have not seen Scripters in games like that in league for years, the last time I saw it like that was about season 5, roughly 9 years ago, right before a massive ban wave hit.
In the last few years, prior to Vanguard that is, there has been more Botting then anything, amongst other Styles of cheating, which do not involve third party programs,( Win Trading, Intentional Throwing because you don't like something someone said, ETC.) which for the last couple of years, (2021-2023) was a massive problem.
But these are just my experiences with what has happened Prior to Vanguard being implemented.
I also want to note, the issues that have been arising with Vanguard, I did mention to them directly, I gave them all those possibilities, yet they could not be bothered to do more extensive testing. So I wasn't going to continue playing anything from them at all because of an anti-cheat raising too many red flags with me.
I stopped playing around the time Vanguard hit PBE, so the test server.
Before then I played since beta and legitimately can't remember a single game I can point at for having scripters.
The only exception was when a friend went through a phase about 5 years ago where he'd just buy new accounts to script on because they would always get banned not long after playing.
I don't get the point to Vanguard. The only place you have a real cheating epidemic is in Asia but that has more to do with being able to get a new lvl 30 account so easily by going to internet cafes. Why would people care if they get banned when they can just get another account within seconds by asking the front desk?
No kernel anticheat will beat that either because those anticheats are flawed to begin with. There are still scripters around in other games that have kernel anticheats and League of Legends will be no different.
I’ve played probably thousands of games of league over 11 years, low ranks and high ranks and I could count the number of scripters I’ve experienced on one hand. Totally a non-factor. If there were such a strong case for implementing it riot wouldn’t have to outright lie about it
@@SuperAwesomeRoboSpy If you think about it, It may be server wide, because like I said, Season 5 was the worst for Scripters, at least on NA from what I remember, but after that the Scripters dwindled off.
@@homiga1 Exactly, Asian countries seem to be at large with cheating, however, in the Case of Korea and China, I assume that is handled pretty quickly.
But again, Ill say it, It might be more server dependent too. But yeah, I can clearly remember a time in Season 5 when there were Scripters, and Ban Waves once ever 2 months since season 3, which is when I started playing, but that was years ago on the NA Server, Botting has been more of an issue then Scripting recently.
Just look at last Season, every game practically had 2 bots on average per game on 1 team and made it unplayable. But that is a different issue all together.
Riot came out with their own little video saying more human players started playing more after the update to Vanguard. ?!? Idk How were supposed to trust their numbers though as they have lied before. Someone else in the comments was saying their player base may have dropped by as much as 30%, seen by checking how many people were picking each individual champ. Is there any way we could get an update on this video subject matter if it changes for better or worse? Its been a month and its real quiet on if they care or not, if they plan any vanguard updates, or what happened with all the people reporting issues or if this is just gonna 'vanish' when people stop talking about it. Thanks for another insightful view into all this.
Vanguard literally broke my $3000 pc and its still broken a month later because i cant be bothered to try and figure out which part failed
Were you using cheats tho, Maybe even for other games? I wonder if it sees stuff like that and doesn't know better. If I spent that much and it bricked my pc I'd be looking to Riot for a refund.
@NachoHero23 never have used cheats for any game in my life. Played some aram, installed the update that had vanguard, played a few more, went to bed, next morning big big problems when trying to turn the pc on. Didn't bother contacting riot because they're just gonna pass the buck and there's nothing I can do about it. 0% chance they take any accountability whatsoever
@@matth4069 TY for the clarification, that sucks so bad dude I'm sorry. I'm in a similar boat paid less but brand new pc, and have never cheated at an online game. Something told me not to download the new patch, that I'd be the unlucky one who gets poo'd on, that I should just wait it out until they update Vanguard. But idk if they're ever going to do that. And I need this pc for more than gaming, I can't have a ftp game destroy my wfh lifeline.
the latest update where they added the swarm thing.Literally made the game unplayable for me as my laptop fans were always getting turned off by vanguard and my laptop starts fying just opening the league client.I uninstalled the game and I'm never coming to this dogshit game made by dogshit company unless I could afford a gaming PC in the future which is not going to happen.
@@testrun1699 Sorry to hear!! Yikes. I heard that was maybe a bad patch that got hot fixed? Something like that. I could be wrong but either way they really need to be more careful when they have such deep access to so many pcs. Software that starts before the OS needs to run right.
I remember seeing this live on stream and the Dicky Lewis hedonites (including me) spamming
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We all love mentally ill reddit mods.
Uuuh, I think I'll have my games without the chinese malware side, thanks.
UM actually I’m in 3k Elo premier cs and all my games are 1v9 closet walls and low fov aim bots I need kernel ac also I am being gangstalked and my parents neglected me
I'm amazed how simple of an issue this is. I know how my motherboard is configured and it would cause exactly the same issue.
Faceit anticheat has had basic safeguards for UEFI and TPM 2.0 settings for ages
Last patch of the ranked split had -15% ranked matches than the previous (to clarify it's -15% than the patch before vanguard became mandatory)
The first and last patches usually are the ones with most matches
Didn't have any issues with vanguard on W10 and immediately after updating to W11, had to activate 3 separate things including options in bios just to even play. I don't understand that.
I wanted to say "we had good run" but I'd be lying, we're talking about League here. I only enjoyed tft but even that only on occasion.
I'm just glad I thought "hmmmmmm I don't think I will. Welp that's over." after seeing install vanguard with the update. I could have had a broken laptop by the sounds of this.
Most league of legends players are aware of the facebook integrations, which are optional and used to populate your friends lists in game with people from your facebook friendslist whom also opted in.
From my understanding the numbers they used to say 1 in 5 included bots. Easy mode l co-op vs ai is all bots, there were also bots in the ARAM gamemode. I haven't played since vanguard so no clue if there are still bots. My guess is they would just bot on mac since they don't need vanguard but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Srly, a just quited league after vanguard.
Vanguard literally stops my inbuilt laptop keyboard from functioning at all when launching LOL or Valorant, its still not fixed...
Not up to riot for that one though, it's most likely an old driver that has vulnerabilities, so you vanguard blocks that driver when their games are open. It'll be up to your manufacturer to update the driver (unlikely). I had the same issue with MSI afterburner back in the day, then they patched their driver to be secure. I hate vanguard but in this case, it's not really up to riot
Either
A. Richard Lewis has become "the woken Matt Hardy" 's spokesperson
Or
B. Reddit has channeled "the woken Matt Hardy"
Or
C. "The woken Matt Hardy" has forseen this when he first did the concept
I honestly think all three is applicable
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Great coverage sir~~!
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Thanks for another banger, made my morning. Even though your're not a cybersecurity expert..
Its essentially a UEFI BIOS virus that runs like Lojax. Uninstall and delete registries then update your BIOS..
According to Riot now more players are playing the game. Thats a cope.
Damn ... I wanted to sell my LoL account just to recoup a bit (only double digit life-time spending but still) but now I'll probably have to fire up a virtual machine to log back in or something.
virtual machines are locked out unless its a mac.
Oh my fucking days Rich isn't wearing a black shirt
I uninstalled that shit quicker than you could say what
It disabled my GPU and GPU drivers in device manager. Nasty.
Richard, Faceit even says they use a kernel level driver now. Similar to riot, the client is required for communication but it is ALWAYS running. It isn't just sitting there doing nothing, it's logging data about the system, every connected device driver, etc. When the client is connected they can retrieve whatever stored information is necessary once suspicion is raised.
I obviously can't say exactly how Faceit's differs from Riot's but I have no doubt they can both do this because they have to. With the increasing use of DMA (direct memory access) devices and spoofed drivers, the only hope they'd have at detecting it is by painstakingly going through these logs. That's not always going to work if nothing is collected until the client is open.
That's an extreme cheat example but there are plenty of other reasons they'd want the ability to log information about the system at any time. I believe Faceit has similar secureboot requirements now but I couldn't say how it's enforced.
I'm at all no expert at computers and all that shit, so i will not try to say i am, but one of the differences i would say is that i need to actually start faceit AC when i first have booted up, it doesn't start at it own, and i can disable it, and then just activate it again without restarting pc or anything dunno if my pc is cooked or what. But i know from vanguard that it boots up by itself, and if u turn it off u need to restart ur whole pc before being able to play, there for a lot of people don't turn it off which means much more data
if ranked play is down by 10% during one of the busiest end of split time, it's just a small indicator.
Valorant didn't have a pre-established playerbase. League on the other hand, had built up the base for over 13 years. This is waiting massive class action and exodus.
I was blue screening constantly for a week until a mysterious critical vanguard update....was getting different error codes each time. Great work riot, as usual
If it was just "sitting there (menacingly)", how could it verify that nothing happened between windows loading and the game starting? It MUST be monitoring everything that happens. Maybe it does not send any information out yet, but it is definately not doing nothing.
Nice new glasses
Haven't watched a single second of ESL since they were bought by you-know-who, never installed Valorant and will never reinstall League now for the occasional half-sloshed ARAMs with friends. There were so many other ways to attack this problem short of fucking over their playerbase yet again, but this is Riot Games we're talking about. Like your guest on 4H said, their logo is them punching you in the face. Why expect anything less?
i keep seeing big tech/successful big companies shooting themselves in the foot.
As soon as the vanguard update for leage dropped, I stopped playing. Not touching that shit ever again.
On a side note, love the thing poster in the back and hope your move went well. Cheers.
That blog seriously reads as if a software architect typed up a technical assay and copied it into ChatGPT with the request "make it sound hip for an audience of teenagers"
I've heard rumors about vanguard screwing up with ssd's. I thought that it was a joke, but it happened to me today, i had to format my m2 again cause it fucked up the boot of it, it wasn't iven recognizing on bios.
Why is my keyboard lighting up red with a few yellow lights in the top left all of a sudden
Damn, I`m proud of myself for not getting into Valorant when it came out because of the anti-cheat. It was fishy from the get-go.
Me and my friends had all quit any Riot games years ago, rest of my friends got back into TFT recently but now that Vanguard came out they all quit it again lmao.
They were finally willing to give Riot another chance (idk why, I stayed away for good), aaand it's gone
sorry for the sickly old comment -- 2 weeks or however youtube says -- but how fucked is it that, in theory, vanguard can quite literally register, if not flag, me typing this comment on this video?
in effect, i just closed it after typing that comment. what are the odds it knows i mentioned it? how positively fucked
DELETE! OBSOLETE! YEEHHHEHEEEESSSSSSS... (meme working overtime since Matt Hardy's drone actually was named Vanguard 1) 😂🤣
18:42 thanks for that Rich gonna clip that and make a soundboard for my friend who says 80% of people are cheating
Yeah i was done as soon as i realized vanguard needed permanent uptime. I play a few ARAMs a week. I dont need this. Then i looked into and found out all this shit. So yeah, no more league for me.
Valve could definitely hire a few more people tho I know its fix the problem but it definitely could help the issues
They have done, it takes time to train people
I quit league after 13 years after watching your initial video on Vanguard, you would truly have to be delusional to be okay with it being on your PC.
Or maybe you just dont want to play with cheaters
@@karis2591 If we're talking league, you do not face cheaters anyway, not that it's a sane justification for installing this crap.
@@emptywhy valorant
@@karis2591 Yeah, I still think you're absolutely insane for thinking that's a reasonable trade-off, especially when you consider Vanguard doesn't rid the game of cheaters, it's your choice to make, but I think it's a moronic choice.
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I tried to play lol after vanguard my laptop stopped working and keep restarting so now I play dota 2 easy.
Been playing league since season 1. Uninstalled when vanguard came out for it. I’ve never seen or even though someone was cheating in my league games. No idea why they needed this in league. I’m sure they lost lots of users over this
Played for 12 years, personally I stopped enjoying summoner's rift and only stuck to ARAM. I'll still watch the pro scene but it's time to grow up
My pc has been booting annoyingly slow lately. Uninstalled vanguard yesterday, my pc boots within seconds now.
i uninstalled before the roll out. the game is honestly on its last leg nothing really ever changes and there is no new players coming into the game. When you are focusing on cheaters but cant do anything against boosters, griefers or smurfs i think you may have missed the point. The anti cheat along with no innovation or care for the players sealed the deal for me.
This video is why I'll quit cs after 10 years, if they were to add kernel level AC.
Vanguard is also just the buggiest piece of shit software I've ever installed on my PC. I played Valorant for like a week and it bluescreened my PC twice. Then when I tried to remove it from my PC the uninstaller wouldn't work so I had to go and manually delete all of the files it left on my computer. Great work mirageofpenguins!
has my previous machine bricked by vanguard on 2021. never again.
"Not as good as you think."
tbh i thought it was shit from the beginning because we know about the programming history of riot games.
Opening a backdoor only to play a game seems super shitty.
They went the lazy way by going with kernel level instead of doing it the good way with statistics and logic.
Any person trying to argue for Vanguard has no good arguments, which make kernel-level software NECCESAIRY
i had hard drive problems for the longest time until I uninstalled valorant/vanguard completely from my pc. go figure 🤷
If you want to write to an american politician, maybe include AOC as well, because she actually plays/played League.
Wait a fucking minute.... is this why my pc would flip out when I would reset it? I would get errors with my boot drive not working, but I haven't been getting them recently (no more valorant). I don't have the exact timeline of when I was having the problems while also having Valorant installed, but they were both happening together.
What a horribly condescending article. Whoever wrote must be a bitter vindictive person.
ok so for context, I think the "1 in 5 games there is a scripter" is actually more like "there is 1 bot for every 5 players, but most of them are in AI games leveling an account with no players involved" . As much as I enjoy LoL I have to admit that riot are prone to using statistics out of context to sell a point, in Riots eyes the mythic system was great addition to the game for "diversity" yet in reality they was using stats from aram like "kraken slayer braum" which would never be played in a normal game to back up there point
Don't get me wrong there ARE cheaters in LoL, when you played for years you recognise some behaviours that are only explainable by scripts with movement (like flashing to dodge a skill on the same 0.01 second it was used before the animation starts, or side stepping a skill shot they had no vision of the moment it was used) however I really don't see it being near 1 in 5 games ... maybe one in every 10-15 at most although it probably is a bit worse in higher elo than i have (emerald )
It randomly open when i start games, not lo, if i off it i need restart pc to play lol but it open in others game and when i off it, game crash
@RichardLewis Id like to see a vid on how many players riot has lost over vanguard in league. I played since 2009 alpha until vanguard went live, uninstalled.
to be clear, here is a workcase for me. I work for the australian government in security. I can work from home. Vanguard would compromise my system to the chinese state. This is stupid. It runs all the time, its beholdent to the ccp. I cant have it on my devices. I can play CS because it does not do this.
Vanguard literally has false positives anyway (aka: it doesn't work properly). I never cared about valorant in any serious capacity so I smurfed in iron lobbies purely for the fun of trolling valorant players. Eventually got hit with a "third-party software" HWID ban (NOT a griefing ban) despite never having used or even installed anything of the sort. Crazy how they market this intrusive kernel-level software as THE anti-cheat solution and it can't even do the job properly lol.
What a scary company. There is a reason why shouldn't trust trainers. Its the same reason why you shouldn't trust anti-cheat.
obviously this is beside the point, and its obvious that Richard is (once again) correct about the things in this video, but, riot not negotiating the ransom is the correct decision, annoying to see people fighting this part and not the rest
Yes every program is a potential backdoor. But should we just not use programs then? This is also why my dad have 2 pc’s, one for work and one for Home/games.
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even with vanguard valorant spinbot go brrrr
Glad I walked away. No game is worth this headache.
Very informative👍🏼
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Cheaters suck. But my computer is my property. It's enough I have a phone picking up on my conversations, it's just on principle at this point. I won't use any riot game even though I've been playing Dota since the early 2000s and LoL since the early 2010s. Valve has my business for the time being, but maybe not for long with how toxic the Dota community is. I swear getting past 11k behavior score has brought the worst cretins the game has to offer. End of rant. Fuck riot.
Holy shit, what year is it?!
Here's proof Richard Lewis is spreading misinformation:
"Can I delete Tencent?" 🤣🤣
I swear we are living in a simulation.
God i wish
"Game developers are all assholes and weirdos" says the influencer, the herald of shitty social behavior 🤣
I thought it was requirement to have uefi and tpm enabled so you could have windows 11, or at least install it. Odd
It is.
you want a company that make games and movies win over the whole cheaters and the hackers who earn money by cracking the anti cheat? dude we still have zero days on windows 😅😅
"We still have zero days on windows" I'd like it if you could source that, I wanna read up more on that.
@@nattythepanda4692 its not on the bright side of the internet , and they cost millions of dollars. search about some fourms..
God bless Rich.
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I quit this dogshit game and company months ago. When I heard about this vanguard stuff I was glad I quit beforehand.
This company is getting worse by the day as is league of legends.
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