@@johnwayne8494 but kratos was not allways immortal, and was shown as a child during the classical spartan era...odysseus is believed to have lived during the bronze age
@@benragnarsson7228 God of War has never really been accurate with the mythology timeline. For instance, Perseus is depicted as being younger than Theseus despite dying generations before he was born, and Hercules is younger than Theseus despite most Greek texts suggesting that Hercules is older or that they were the same age.
we know that he was alive and mortal during Leonidas' time thanks to the flashbacks in Ascension. he likely saw Troy during his time as Ares' replacement
Poems often romanticize reality and the real story of the Trojan war is obviously a subject kratos avoids . For a god of war that has been alive for centuries , I wonder how bad the event had to be to remain a black moment in kratos memory.
"I especially like the part where Achilles drags Hector's beaten body through the dirt and abuses the carcass for several verses. I always saw myself in that character. "
No. He wouldn’t have been a myrmidon. He would’ve been serving as the God of War. He was at the hot gates, but was one of the few to survive when he was still mortal
@@lonewanderer1328 correction: the hot gate isnt the name of the battle, it's the location It's called that because the region is a choke point for a marching army, main reason how 300 spartans could face off over 10000 persians
@@lonewanderer1328 He wasn't at Thermopylae but he wished he had fought there with the 300, thus far, nothing in his sentence in that story ever suggests he had partaken in the battle, considering his fame. Trojan story had some merit though in some angles.
Dude, I really don't like this dialogue. Kratos was definitely not alive when the Trojan war took place. Sparta did not even exist yet. It was the mycenaeans, precursors of the Greeks, who sacked Troy.
@@isaac7846 NUH UH KRATOS STILL DIDN'T SAY THAT But in seriousness, I never really inferred he was really *there* there Cuz the war was before Sparta was formed But then again, Kratos is old as dirt So he could've been there with the mycenaeans and or trojans ...Somehow. OR most likely the writers for this bit of dialogue didn't take into account how that war predates even Kratos, Deimos, and the entirety of Sparta. COMPLETE 180 from what I originally said, I know, but I admit that I didn't really catch Kratos' sly little "Yes." Another theory, Kratos is a liar.
OSP (Overly Sarcastic Productions) does a really good retelling of it w/original art (OSP Illiad should get you there). It's not the shorter form poetry we're used to, but more of a novel. Idk where to read an accurate version though
It doesn't surprise me that the story of Troy is Kratos favorite poem
Its right up there with Thermopylae in Spartas greatest hits
I wonder if this means that Kratos was friends with or at least served under Odysseus, since he specifically compliments him here
I wonder how kratos was alive both during the trojan war and the hot gates...its centuries apart
@@benragnarsson7228 Kratos is like 1000 years old
@@johnwayne8494 but kratos was not allways immortal, and was shown as a child during the classical spartan era...odysseus is believed to have lived during the bronze age
@@benragnarsson7228 God of War has never really been accurate with the mythology timeline. For instance, Perseus is depicted as being younger than Theseus despite dying generations before he was born, and Hercules is younger than Theseus despite most Greek texts suggesting that Hercules is older or that they were the same age.
we know that he was alive and mortal during Leonidas' time thanks to the flashbacks in Ascension. he likely saw Troy during his time as Ares' replacement
You get a giant wooden horse
I get nothing...
Poems often romanticize reality and the real story of the Trojan war is obviously a subject kratos avoids . For a god of war that has been alive for centuries , I wonder how bad the event had to be to remain a black moment in kratos memory.
Man if Kratos was part of the Trojan war then he would've been in the Trojan Horse that sacked the city of troy
"But that is not what happened."
He was likely the God of War in Olympus when it happened
@@lonewanderer1328 Ares is a character in the poem, so it would have been after.
@@AliThaDude ares doesn't get fucking owned in the greek myths thou, kratos replaced him in the timeline
@@lonewanderer1328 true, when he said he was there, it might be that he simply saw how the war happened as the god of war
"I especially like the part where Achilles drags Hector's beaten body through the dirt and abuses the carcass for several verses. I always saw myself in that character. "
The Iliad and the Trojan Horse.
Kratos was part of the Trojan War?! Does that mean he was fighting under the command of King Menelaus?!
If so, it seems he's ashamed of it. I'm not surprised, given that he seems to speak of Paris and Helen's "forbidden love" with sympathy.
With the mentioning of the Illiad then the aeneid comes to pass, I wonder how far along the roman gods are?
so... does that mean he's... one of achilles' men back then?
Wouldn't be a surprise
No. He wouldn’t have been a myrmidon. He would’ve been serving as the God of War. He was at the hot gates, but was one of the few to survive when he was still mortal
The hot gates is the final battle in 300
@@lonewanderer1328 correction: the hot gate isnt the name of the battle, it's the location
It's called that because the region is a choke point for a marching army, main reason how 300 spartans could face off over 10000 persians
@@lonewanderer1328 He wasn't at Thermopylae but he wished he had fought there with the 300, thus far, nothing in his sentence in that story ever suggests he had partaken in the battle, considering his fame. Trojan story had some merit though in some angles.
Dude, I really don't like this dialogue. Kratos was definitely not alive when the Trojan war took place. Sparta did not even exist yet. It was the mycenaeans, precursors of the Greeks, who sacked Troy.
I don't think Kratos ever stated he was THERE at the Trojan War, he just said he liked the retelling of it. Your anger is misguided, brother.
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@@isaac7846 NUH UH KRATOS STILL DIDN'T SAY THAT
But in seriousness, I never really inferred he was really *there* there
Cuz the war was before Sparta was formed
But then again, Kratos is old as dirt
So he could've been there with the mycenaeans and or trojans
...Somehow.
OR most likely the writers for this bit of dialogue didn't take into account how that war predates even Kratos, Deimos, and the entirety of Sparta.
COMPLETE 180 from what I originally said, I know, but I admit that I didn't really catch Kratos' sly little "Yes."
Another theory, Kratos is a liar.
Where can I read this poem
OSP (Overly Sarcastic Productions) does a really good retelling of it w/original art (OSP Illiad should get you there). It's not the shorter form poetry we're used to, but more of a novel. Idk where to read an accurate version though
People should read a thousand ships. Just finished reading it and I loved it as a retelling of the story
Wait, Kratos fought in the Trojan war!? Why didn’t this show up in any of the earlier games!?
this is the narration built up, the expanded story. a Plot Device. you know the drill. if you are storyteller
Odds are it took place well before he became the Ghost of Sparta.
Because he is too busy serving Ares
Freya needs some high heels for christ's sake ...
High heels as a warrior during those times... right
you could've just said shoes, but...
Look, it's fine if you want her to step on you, but please keep that on deviantart