Medieval Mongolian Writing: How Much Survives?
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- This video looks at the history of writing amongst the Mongols and other nomadic peoples, with special focus on the writing of Mongolian during the days of the Mongol Empire. From the pre-Chinggisid inscriptions (Bugut, Khuis Tolgoi, Orkhon) to the adoption of the Uyghur script by Chinggis Khan in 1206, to the evolution of the writing system in the centuries after the Mongol Empire. Here you'll find an overview and introduction to this topic, as well as many suggestions for further reading.
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This video looks at the history of writing amongst the Mongols and other nomadic peoples, with special focus on the writing of Mongolian during the days of the Mongol Empire. From the pre-Chinggisid inscriptions (Bugut, Khuis Tolgoi, Orkhon) to the adoption of the Uyghur script by Chinggis Khan in 1206, to the evolution of the writing system in the centuries after the Mongol Empire. Here you'll find an overview and introduction to this topic, as well as many suggestions for further reading. Be sure to check the description for the bibliography and contact me if you wish to have a full look at the charts I made for this project.
Engrossing. Thank you.
as a mongolian i never heard the term "hudum" , we call it "bosoo mongol bichig" or just "mongol bichig" . where the term "hudum" came from?
@@dismas8884 I came across it in my research, and had never heard it before. But then I asked some Mongolians I knew who said they still use it. So I don't have an answer for that.
@@dismas8884Hudum gedeg yum aa. Hudam mongol bichig gej sonsoogui yu?
@@ernyserok8278 sonsogui. Hudum gej hudal gedeg ugnii eh uusveru? Hudam gej medehgum bn. Ugniih eh uusver bolon oiroltsoo utgatai ugiig ni helde
proud that i can still write and read in traditional Mongolian script.
ᠥᠰᠬᠦ ᠡᠴᠡ ᠰᠤᠷᠤᠭᠰᠠᠨ ᠦᠨᠳᠦᠰᠦᠨ ᠊ᠦ ᠬᠡᠯᠡ ᠣᠷᠬᠢᠵᠤ ᠪᠣᠯᠣᠰᠢ ᠥᠬᠡᠢ ᠰᠣᠶᠣᠯ ᠮᠥᠨ᠂ ᠦᠬᠦᠲᠡᠯᠡ ᠣᠷᠣᠰᠢᠬᠤ ᠲᠥᠷᠥᠯᠬᠢ ᠨᠤᠲᠤᠭ ᠰᠠᠯᠵᠤ ᠪᠣᠯᠣᠰᠢ ᠦᠭᠡᠢ ᠣᠷᠣᠨ ᠮᠥᠨ᠃
It's a very relevant topic to modern mongolians. During the Soviet times our parents generation weren't allowed to learn the script and ppl moved to russian letters for everyday use. Ofc now since the last 30ish years it's back in schools. The secret history really helped with that
What a wonderful deep dive into a rarely covered subject. Great work, Jack!
Many thanks my friend
Oh shut up history dose
@@ironmiketyson220 Was that necessary to speak to History Dose like that??
Mongolian writing was the main written language of Central Asian nomadic people between the 13th and 18th centuries.
Underrated channel respect from Oirat Mongol
Been watching this dude for years now, never dissapoints. Got me so much to speed with my favourite empire/army in history and now their culture, traditions, primary sources too. I been evolving my knowledge lol, thanks Jackmeister!!
Sain bainaa! You did great job, appreciate as byriad mongol!
Great video! This is bringing me back to university days. I remember many hours working through the Ming copy of the Secret History in a seminar course or struggling with Buddhist jataka in Classical Mongolian. Unfortunately, I never gained the ability to read the mongolian script naturally like I did with Chinese.
It's definitely not an easy script, especially for pre-classical materials. There's a reason in the 1600s everyone was adding more diacritics and letters to it to try and clarify it (which makes me feel better about my own slow progress with it!)
The Rasulid Hexaglot is such a fascinating work.
A dictionary of 6 completely unrelated languages, from different language families, compiled in distant Yemen of all places.
it's an absolutely stunning work, and a real testament to how well-connected people of the past could be. We are very fortunate to have it survive so that we can study it.
Language is the glue that binds the culture together. Well researched!
Great work!! Thanks
Excellent presentation. Thank you very much. Have been studying Mongolian script and this really helped understand some differences in things I have seen. Thank you!
Very glad you found it useful; these were things I was confused by when I started learning the script, and have been clarified for me through long process, so I am happy it can help others along too.
I love your videos, first I came across the kings and generals video series on the mongols. I always had huge interest in their history and culture, sadly however they're almost entirely left out of german history lessons. The subject get some highlight around the time they attacked europe but that's it. They even teach the crusaders would have caused the islamic world to isolate itself, the fact the mongols invaded bagdad marched on egypt..., all that wasn't even mentioned. It's great to learn about one of the most influential cultures in history, which despite that is so unknown to many in the west.
I appreciate how this overview touches on the other empires and kingdoms of the Steppe- it can be hard to find any information on them that’s a simple introduction.
Excellent video once again, jack. thx.
Can't imagine how much work this was; kudo Jackmeister. I really loved seeing the letters from all the khans, I had no idea there was so many.
Thank you! It was a great deal of work, but I learned a lot from it and hope others do as well.
Very informative , i continue to learn from all of your very well done videos
Fascinating topic. Great video.
In the future, if you include the Mongolian language sub in your videos, it will reach more Mongolians. Thank you for everything you did
Historical evidence of Mongol script in Golden horde in Russia was found in Volga river in 1930. Nicholas Poppe Russian/German/American linguist who restored it, published his study. On birch bark, It is written in vertical Mongol script in Mongolian language during XIV-XV in Golden Horde. Text is poetic dialogue between son and mother.
Поппе Н. Н. Золотоордынская рукопись на берёсте. - М., Л., 1941.
Poppe is a very interesting character in his own right. born in China, he was a prodigious writer and a defector from the Soviet Union
The impact of the Great Empires reverberates down to us till this day.
Greate video, I think you know the old Mongolian writing system?
Yes I can read it, but very slowly. It's not a easy one to read, but I took some classes to help me learn it.
what a nice channel, thanks
This sounds awesome! Looking forward to see what you found here!
It was even better than I expected. I am floored by how much stuff you brought into this. How did you manage to find all of this? Absolutely amazing Jackmeister
@@ClassicPengins Glad you enjoyed it! This is only a small sample; if I spent more weeks on it I would have found much more than this, I am certain.
I think you need to hire a translator. Your videos usually so much better than what we learn in school. Most of young students don't speak English and there is lack of detailed historical lessons in the internet in Mongolian. You can generate English subtitle of your video with some AI video tools than give it to your translator as SRT file.
I know, I have had a few Mongolians suggest this and I would like to make it more accessible. The English script is already written and prepared. It is something I should look into more seriously.
LOVE these videos. Please produce more content.
Good Luck Man!
You are the master, Mr. Meister
That's why they call me that
Jack I've watched every video and i need more
Love the channel keep it up ❤
Thank you! I wish I had time to do more than I do, it's always great fun and I learn a lot with each one.
Hello . Love your works , it is best researched and presented videos about Mongol empire I have ever seen on youtube. Shame the majority wouldn't see it while near fictional history of Genghis khan is being spread across internet.
I have watched on "Kings and Generals" series about "How Mongol empire fell" and saw that you wrote in comments saying Ariq Bokhe is successor to Mongke khan
I would like to ask if you could answer me on why you percieve Arig Bokhe as more legitimate than Kublai?
I was taught Ariq Bokhe is illegitimate because he convened Kurultai before major princes could return to Mongolia and declared himself khan in sham election.
Great channel! If you don’t mind n asking do you have degrees in Mongolian studies or just a passion? I’m Omani g to create a Mongol focused history type channel out of just interest/oassion. This channel is basically a famous g channel I want to grow eventually.
I am currently part way through my PhD, focusing on the Golden Horde in the late thirteenth century. I have been doing this videos on the topic of the Mongol Empire for over 7 years now.
Hey Omani, I am Mongol from Mongolia. Please kindly stay away from Mongolia and create a channel on your own Omani history and culture. Please respect the indigenous people like Mongols. Who are you to create channel about Mongolian history!!!!! Extremely stupid!!!! As a Mongol, I cannot speak for Omani people. Mongols are Buddhist Northeast Asian indigenous people. We are different from Middle Eastern Muslims!!!
Wonderful video 🎉🎉🎉
Thank you so much.
sorry I wanted to ask if you know anything about a stone monument Amir Timur erected when chasing Tukhtamish to Kundurcha, recorded by Zafarnama, and later Muhammad shibani, and Abdullah khan on their campaigns against Kazakhs erected on the same site their own inscripts, I was wandering where is the site, it might be somewhere in western Kazakhstan, but I don't know the exact site
Great to see exploration of this broadly. Would be interested to hear more about the 15th century Anatolian Mongol.
If you don't mind reading French, the late Louis Ligeti wrote a very detailed article on it which has images of the manuscript: Ligeti, Louis. “Un vocabulaire mongol d’Istanboul.” Acta Orientalia Academiae Scientiarum Hungaricae 14 (1962): 3-99.
I am Mongol from Mongolia. There is no such a thing as Anatolian Mongols. These Turkish people are just trying very hard to make Mongolia connected to Turkey by exaggerating and inventing stories. Very nasty and disgusting!!!
@@kts437 I believe he is referring to the interesting dictionary with Mongol, Turkic, Arabic and Persian which is dated to 15th century Anatolia. It's mentioned at about 15:25 in the video. It was likely made by somehow who had access to Mongolic speakers or Ilkhanid documents and could still read the Mongolian in them.
where are you bro it's been a while
hi there sorry, i wanted to know which preliminary sources records the Uighur scribes in Naiman courts and their feat after Naimans defeat and I wanted to know if there's a Yuanshi English translation and where can I find it?
thank you as always
Thanks great job...can you read the Turkic runic script?
History buff here. Do you recommend Jack Weatherford's books (Secret History of the Mongol Queens, Ghengis Khan and the Quest for God, Ghengis Khan and the Making of the Modern World)?
I wrote a review on his "Making of the Modern World" here. www.medievalists.net/2022/05/genghis-khan-making-modern-world/
in short: the book was my own introduction to reading about the Mongol Empire. I think it still serves as a useful intro if a reader isn't even sure what a Mongol is, or if they want to understand why people have views about Chinggis Khan beyond just "mass Mongol bloodshed." Weatherford is a highly skilled writer with a deep love for Mongolian culture. He is also a very nice man, who I exchanged a few emails with some time ago. However, he is not a historian by training and the book has a lot of errors in it (to the point that some events are dramatically misrepresented). So I don't really recommend it, if you are looking to do actual research on the empire (but it's honestly fine if you just want to pick up something to read on a Sunday and want to know a little bit about the empire)
@@TheJackmeisterMongolHistory Ok thanks! Not too surprising, sometimes "popular histories" can have glaring errors and dramatized accounts. I enjoyed both "Ghengis Khan and the Quest for God" as well as "The Secret History of the Mongol Queens" and enjoy Weatherford's writing style, but your essay is well taken.
@@TheJackmeisterMongolHistory A dear friend of mine is from Central Asia and I've had social media correspondence with a very pleasant and intelligent author from Mongolia in the past. I'm always excited to learn more about Mongolian and Central Asian history! Are there any particular books you'd recommend?
I have a vast library of things I can recommend; if you specify particular areas that interest you, I can suggest and send pdfs to you and tailor them for your interests.
Cool
Is there any patreon level that I can recommend a topic video (and maybe help on the making)? It'd be nice as I would learn more about the character as well..
Viewers are free to suggest things; I don't want to make a position where people pay for video topics, because my own schedule is too inconsistent right now to always devote time to videos. So I don't want to make a scenario where people are asking/paying for things and I have to make promises I can't deliver. Unfortunately right now, usually the videos will have to take a back seat to my PhD, so I never know when I will get time to work on them.
No problem! I still am interested in being a patreon. Does the Baatar membership get a discord service access? I'd likely be a patreon around September, as my first job will just now in August. Your channel is amazing, the best here on the platform on the topic. I hope you can always find more time to improve the channel ❤@@TheJackmeisterMongolHistory
Yes all patreons at all levels get access to the discord, where I try to be relatively active.
what was the use of getuga, mingol passport, and in which source can I find information about it?
Can you do a video on the Mongols' failed invasions of Vietnam?
műnke tenger in khuchin dor means under the strength of eternal blue sky
🙏🙏🙏
sorry, where can I find Rasulid hexaglot?
Jackmiester is Jelme subutais brother or cousin?
Cousin. Jelme was a son of Jarchi'udai, while Sübedei was a son of Qaban, and Sübedei had an older brother named Cha'urqan/Qurghun. The confusion comes from Mongolian language accounts like the Secret History of the Mongols, where there is a tendency to refer to older relatives, in particular cousins, as "older and younger brothers," (aqa-ini) regardless of actual family connections.
@@TheJackmeisterMongolHistory and is it true that Jochi was nicer compared to his brothers?
I think this has been overstated. He tried to prevent excessive destruction of the city of Urgench, but that was probably not so much out of humanitarianism as much as it was that the city would be his property and he would earn the revenues from it. In contrast, his brothers in the siege were more willing to destroy it (which happened anyways). There was also an occasion we wanted to spare a famous Merkit archer, who Chinggis then ordered him to kill. His reasons for wanting to spare were, again, probably not out of humanitarian reasons but wanting to show off having a great warrior/archer associated with him. People make this narrative of him wanting to avoid bloodshed because it makes a nicer story and is another thing to put him at odds with him father and brothers, but I think it is a mistake that puts too much of a modern spin onto the facts.
@@TheJackmeisterMongolHistory for president of the world!
Ağa is still used in Türkics @@TheJackmeisterMongolHistory
Hello, Genghis Khan, was he a Turk or a Mongol??
Orkhon inscriptions 🔥
👍👍👍
Yes❤ 🎉🎉
The most interesting part was seeing the translations from the mongol script into Latin! And a medieval European manuscript (in Latin) with a Chinese-language seal on top. Wow!!
chinese seal? Where?
@@coleob854710:44 The seal is written in Chinese
Why did it take 2 years for Ögedei to take the throne as the Great Khan after the passing of his father? It's not like he was a child or anything.. Was Tolui the official regent? Was there some title for that? It's quite impressive for Tolui to not try to depose his brother, he could have been just afraid of even trying but surely it's honorable as he stayed in control for 2 years. I don't remember anything similar in Mongol history. Had someone like Jamukha been in power, he would have tried something...
The regency is an interesting thing. For what Tolui does in this period, it appears he cancelled military campaigns, worked to maintain Mongol control over newly conquered territories (especially around Zhongdu, modern-day Beijing), oversaw the burial ceremonies of his father, and prepared for the quriltai to empower Ögedei. While there is some suggestion that some of the princes wished to enthrone Tolui instead of Ögedei, (partly, it appears to be because Tolui was seen as the more skilled commander of the two) Tolui did not counter his father’s will and publicly backed his brother. It may be part of the reason for the 2-year period, was the trouble in actually arranging what to do next following the death of Chinggis, and an extended mourning period and ceremonies to send off Chinggis' spirit. There is a rather constant issue in the Mongolian successions where Khans generally do nominate an heir, but the concept of an heir automatically succeeding the father in an institution way was not present so these choices normally had some pushback. It presumably took a bit of time to calm these voices. At the same time, Tolui's power as regent is also likely somewhat overstated, and mostly appears in writings from dynasties ruled by his own children.
There does not appear to have been a Mongolian title for the position of regent (the early Mongol Empire tended to be fairly flexible in terms of titles and how they were used). Tolui is sometimes known as Yeke Noyan or the Turkic equivalent, Uluğ Beğ ("Great Lord,") but this appears to be an honourable, posthumous title used after his death once his personal name became taboo.
Indeed, the succession thing was very unorthodox and problematic. Neither Güyük nor Möngke's children/descedants took the throne. I don't know if either had surviving children, but Möngke shouldn't even be there because he was an entirely other line and Güyük still had brothers (and maybe children). And yes, the sources must surely be very pro-Tolui because he ended up winning the long game as the Kublai dynasty was descedant from him. @@TheJackmeisterMongolHistory
So Güyük had at least three children; two sons, Khwaja (Qucha) and Naqu with his Yeke Khatun, Oghul Qaimish, and another son, Hoqu, from a concubine. Following Güyük's death though, the sons wanted to become Khan, while Oghul Qaimish, interestingly, apparently tried to back Shiremün (a grandson of Ögedei via Qochu, born to a different lady from Güyük's mother Törögene). Shiremün appears to have been (one) of Ögedei's choices as heir, an honour he never seams to have provided Güyük, and possibly Oghul Qaimish was seeking to honour that wish. However, this put her into conflict with her own sons, and the result was to essentially incapacitate the Ögedeyid faction while Möngke made his move.
Möngke also had a few sons; Baltu and Urungtash, born to Yeke Khatun Qutuqtai, and Shiregi and Asutai, born to secondary wives. In this case, Baltu dies before Möngke, while the brothers never seem to be seriously considered for their role, perhaps seen as too young. As I have argued elsewhere, it appears that Möngke intended his youngest brother, Ariq Böke, to act as either regent, or actually even successor (brother-to-brother being a common steppe tradition in successions)- a plan foiled by Khubilai's refusal to cooperate, and declaring himself Khan in spring 1260.
Can someone write to me here, the phrase "child of the eternal sky" in mongolian?
In medieval form, it would be "Möngke tengri-yin keüked" ᠮᠥᠩᠭᠡ ᠲᠩᠷᠢ ᠶᠢᠨ ᠭᠡᠦᠭᠡᠳ
Mönkh tengriin khüükhed in Modern Mongolian
@@TheJackmeisterMongolHistory Thank you so much for this. Your content is awesome. I presume i have to write it vertically to be correct?
Yes! While Sogdian (and to more rarely, Uyghur) can be written horizontally or vertically, the Mongol version of the script is always written vertically. There is a 14th century document or two that exists where it isn't vertical, but on these examples it is written in a Persian document where the writer (presumably a non-Mongol) turned it on its side in order for it to fit between the lines.
@@TheJackmeisterMongolHistory ᠦᠷᠡᠰ probably is a better choice than ᠬᠡᠦᠬᠡᠳ
bicichi is the same bitakchi of Persian sources
axijuq the successor of Ashraf Chopani who was defeated by Mubarez aldin Muhammad of Muzaffarids
Downvoted for using CE and not AD.
What are you talking about? The Uighur Turks made the alphabet of the Mongols. There are only the works of the Turks. The name Mongol exists after the 1300s.
Khentii aimag not Hentei aimag 😂... It's better to pronounce the 'ii' like "e"
The information about the Turks has been significantly misrepresented and misguided, primarily due to the influence of Russian researchers and later by Western historians, influenced by Eurocentrism. This biased perspective has led to a distorted understanding of the historical development and cultural achievements of the Turkic peoples. By emphasizing the narratives that align with Eurocentric views.
This linguist's assertions are completely misguided! The polyethnic group known as the "Turks" only emerged in the 6th century AD with the formation of the Turkic Khaganates. Their distant neighbors-the Arabs, Persians, and Greeks-didn't even begin referring to them as "Turks" until the 11th-12th centuries AD. So, what ancient Turkic language could possibly exist from this time? Moreover, the closest neighbors of the Turkic Khaganate, the Chinese, only mentioned the Turgut Turks in their chronicles. The Turgut Turks themselves were under the control of the Avar Khaganate during the 4th-5th centuries. Given this timeline, what Turkic language and writing system could this linguist be referring to? Is it really feasible to establish a new ethnic group, complete with its own language and writing system, in just 100 years? Clearly, this claim does not hold up to scrutiny.
If researchers were to understand Russian and thoroughly review all the relevant studies, they would uncover fascinating discoveries and myths about the Turks. They would also find true facts about the local peoples who existed long before the Turks and who developed the runic writings. This deeper understanding would reveal the rich cultural history and achievements of these ancient communities, shedding light on their significant contributions that have often been overshadowed by later historical narratives including Russian historians.
Hey stupid Turk! I am Mongol from Mongolia. First, Turkic is a linguistic term. Second, the term Turkic is a pseudoscientific term created by western and Russian scholars. Turkic is heteregenous people of different culture, history, and genetic phenotypes with language diffusion only. The Tuvans and Yakuts never identify themselves as Turkic.
Errr mongols used Uighur clerks and used Uighur alphabet
Author messed up Mongolia script with the uygur one. And chagatay language with the mongolic language. Hexagonal vocabularies do not show mongolic language , but some of the Turkic ones. Please study linguistic studies. And do not associated modern halha mongols(mongolic language speakers) with the Middle Ages mongols (Turkic language speakers) of the chengishan. Chingiskhan name itself Turkic.
Mongols were always mongolic speakers, not turkic speakers. Honestly where did you get this information from? haha. You cant consider a mongol, a mongol if they don’t speak mongol right? Chinggiss khan name is not turkic. Chinggiss Khan title is itself a mongolic title. Chingiss originates from the mongolic word tenggiss - meaning ocean /wide spread - refers to temuujin being a universal ruler. And khan originates from the mongolic word khagan which originated from the Proto Mongolic empire -Xianbei. The rourans (another proto mongolic peoples) made the term “khagan” popular among the steppes and evolved into “khan” which the turkic peoples started using as a title. Also you can view the letter written in 1285 that was sent to the pope, the letter is preserved in the Vatican and it is in middle mongolian. Try get any uyghur or turk to desipher or understand it. And ask any Mongolian, they will be able to understand the middle mongolian letter with ease.
@@leaked9991About etomology of Chingghis, Jami Al Tawarikh recorded that "ching" means strong, and powerful in mongolian and Chingghis was plural of this word. It was pretty believable. You know Chintugs,Chinbold,Chinbat.
Or you can learn to read the Uyghur script and Arabic script (like I did) and assess these things for yourself. If you do, you will see that, in documents like the Rasulid Hexaglot, (not hexagonal! it's not a shape!), Muqaddimat al-Adab and Kitab Majmu’ Tarjuman Turki wa ‘Ajami wa Mugali wa Farsi, they are in Mongolian alongside Turkic. This is clearly differentiated in these texts.
First time on channel. Refreshing to have this level of quality. My thanks to you and your exellent team.
Temujin is Tatar warriors name, impressed his bravery during the fight, Esuhkei gave his name to his son. But it does not mean they didn’t have common language. Of course they did.
It's Tartarian, not Mongolian.
Same thing, poor turk
Why video named mongolian writings while you are talking about turkic artefacts? Name your video Turkic writings then, no?
The Turkic language writings are included to give the fuller picture and context of the history of writing in the Mongolian plateau (since they are an important part of this), but the video is not about them and does not trace their development.
@@TheJackmeisterMongolHistorythe oldest writing in the Mongolian plateau is Mongolic and perhaps that needs to be specified for these Turks
All those writings are Turkic writings. The so called term “mongol” is actually “mangi-el” which means “eternal nation” it is the ideology of all nomadic Turkic speaking clans/tribes. When formed under the law of eternal blue sky, the nomadic civilization was truly free.
P.s. nowadays halha-mongols are not descendants of the Shyngys-Kagan.
If you are into linguistics, you should start discovering Turkic family of languages. Kazakhstan(Turkic state) alone got over 2.5 million worlds that describe nature and various animals.
Halha is confederation of several Mongolian tribe. And its not shyngys kagan its Chinggis khaan u should better read Mongolian secret history ohh srry u dont know Mongolian traditional script.😢
Turks always seek to sit on two chairs, or they are Romans with Constantinople, or they are Chingis Khaans descendants. God gave one ass to sit on one chair.
It's very impressive you somehow managed to analyze the thousands of the documents summarized in this video, of materials found from around the world in addition to the hundreds of articles and books in multiple languages linked in the bibliography, all in about twenty minutes after this video was uploaded... or perhaps you didn't watch it at all? Perhaps if you are actually interested in linguistics, you might actually look at what was presented here.
Relax man. The Author of this video is Eurocentric.
@@TheJackmeisterMongolHistory yeah some uneducated idiot seating somewhere I. The west will tell me about my ancestors and my fore-fathers. This video is bullshit just because of the title. Current mongols that live in Mongolia are descendants far east China. So don’t spread the bullshit.
Now coming back to word Ulus, Tengri/Tanir/Dengir/Tangir is not halha Mongolian word. All those words in the whole vast “Desht-i-Kipchak” got Turkic toponims and names. All those rivers and mountains are named with Turkic/Qazaq words.
So no way some western ass can tell the descendants of great Nomadic Kaghans about history of my culture. So please, just stay in your lane and stop spreading misinformation. All those so called experts don’t know how to read or write proto-Turkic script. Even current so called “mongols” can’t because the never spoke that language- never knew it.
Why halha-mongols decided to take the name mongols for their country is actually a good dig that traces its roots back to comrade Stalin. He feared the unification of Turkic stated. Therefore he actively tried to genocide the Turkic nations in the occupied territories. Everyone knows that. What everyone does not know is by Stalins command until current days the Moscow is actively rewrites the history books to suit its own narratives.
So what did the western stated along with communists do? Exactly, strip the Turkic nation from their history.
And once again “SHYNGYS QAGAN” from the tribe Kiyat he was born in current days Qazaqstan. Given name Temirchin = Smith
Iron if some asses in the west don’t know came from nomads. While westerners were in a stone/Bronze Age, my ancestor invented pants, steal, domesticated horse and became the most mobile force with recurve bow. My ancestors invented the chariots! And that is just a tip of the iceberg!
P.s. I have nothing against halha-mongols. But they have nothing to do with great Qaghans!
However those who still do nomadic live style in Mongolia are Qazaqs (Turkic speaking breathing eating nomads)
You can find qazaqs and qyrgys nomads in China as well along with Uyghurs. All are Turkic nations!
So S the F up and better learn your own history. 🖕🏻
The author is the European and Soviet Union (Russia) propaganda Lover of History
what does it even mean? how is he euro-centred and russian propogandist? Everyone who don't claim how mongol empire was kazakh without any reliable source is russian bot?
Stupid Qipchak Cuman or whatever you identify yourself. I am Mongol from Mongolia! We are not related to Turks! Second, Turkic is a pseudoscientific term that puts very different people under one umbrella. The recent genetic studies reveal that Turkic is heterogeneous people of different genetic phenotype with language diffusion only. Those Tuvans and Yakuts never identify themselves as Turkic.