Ryuku Sensei actually loves Wuthering Waves and his video is a critique on how it could (have) be(en) better. However I think the choices that WUWA made were the right ones because the game turned out successful that a lot of people enjoy and appreciate.
F it that dude Ryuku be yapping a lot .. i watch his discussion with saintontas.. that mf need to talk alot to give simple critics i don't even understand none of his points like his yapping for a lot and i mean a lot ..
The hate for wuwa suddenly spiked now that 2.0 is approaching - which has been anticipated as a soft relaunch for the game. Seems the hoyodogs are getting a bit insecure and doing everything they can to spoil it. Its so covenient that Saint has been a hot topic lately so they use him as an excuse to just pile on the negativity. Sooner you realize all this internet drama only matters to 1% of the (terminally online) community, the sooner you will enjoy the game much more for what it is. So just sit back, relax, and get hype for 2.0 because we all know its going to be the biggest update yet
Yup, saint really did pick a lot of useless fights with the most g cc. Like what he's doing is not helping the community but make it worse. Is okay to criticize that cc and give the correct opinion for the game. But recently, he's just doing a lot of drama that is supposed not to be happening. I'm also hyped for 2.0 i can't wait any longer. And is good that the leaks is now gone.
Let's be honest, after Saintontas emerged, there's way less controversial takes on WuWa and consequently CCs take more effort in producing their videos instead of the usual low quality contents that we usually get. No matter how you want to argue this, his role is quite irreplaceable in WuWa's community as of this moment.
Exactly. Saintontas make very logical points while the other CCs were making rubbish points. And then when they were called out, they get all hurty about it and go into logical fallacies as come backs. Yet for those of us who understand how logic works, the other CCs were full of it.
You should watch the stream. Saintone and Ryuuku Sensei made up in a single stream. Saintone needs to realize his raging self isn't liked. Once he fixes that, we'll get back to normal content. All CCs have their faults: 1. Iyo says weird things. (As usual) 2. Vars spreads misinformation in the weirdest way where he contradicted himself. 3. Gacha Smack's videos are incomplete and lack depth compared to TouhouSniper. He made a 30-min video on a simple point that could be a 1-min TikTok about ToA problems which doesn't even give any solution. 4. Fobs hates all Gacha. 5. MrPokke started drama, saying there's not enough WuWa criticism, though other CCs do it, not Saintone. Saintone can only voice existing game issues, not as an expert in story and endgame. Ryuuku Sensei does that. 6. Ryuuku Sensei has the best takes on WuWa story but not endgame. Even Tectone notes his problems exist because he's in the endgame. To solve this: 1. Vars needs a friend like Saintone's editor. 2. Gacha Smack should focus on quality over rushed videos. 3. Saintone needs to control his emotions and stop attacking everyone. 4. Ryuuku Sensei needs some support. 5. Vars should talk with Brax before posting videos. 6. Iyo needs better proofreading. Also, MrPokke doesn't know investment law. Tencent does not own Kuro Games. By Chinese investment law, you must own 61% for control. Tencent signed an agreement to receive profit dividends instead of control. There's a huge difference between stocks for control and dividends. I hope Tectone talks to Gacha Smack soon. I don't want any CC to stop making videos; I want them to improve. Also please don't just defending everything the CC does. You can see how criticism on Saintone actually make him tone down by a lot. He rarely make raging stream now too. He only does that for a BIG bad video which is a miles better.
I actually liked Ryuuku sensei's video because it's a genuine critique on what more to improve. What I am really getting tired of is the CC dramas like Smack vs Saintontas, Pokke vs Saintontas, etc. some of the problems of these CCs are casual players vs hardcore players thing which they cannot get into a middle ground on that. Other things also like biases towards other gacha games, etc. It really is getting tiring tbh. So I muted those channels for now.
The thing is, the hate wuwa gets (Not the CC war) usually are some criticisms that have weight. Like Ryuuku sensei's video is made quite well. Gachasmack and Vars don't have that much weigh since it's built on the foundation and believe that they have about Genshin. The deal with the amount of criticism is (In My Opinion) caused by Kuro actually having both proof and track record that they are listening to the playerbase instead of turning a blind eye and plugging their ears to criticism. It's actually both amazing and interesting how Genshin criticisms usually gets shutdown but a well made criticism towards WuWa just made both the community and devs happy.
Kuro devs really made wuwa the best game. Awesome story, infinite stamina, crazy characters design difficult levels for players and lastly great rewards. Let them cook🧑🍳🔥
Imo some people need to grow up 😂 disagree with someone criticism doesnt mean they are toxic, it also doesnt mean they are shilling, it just means they disagree with you, maybe your opinion is just trash 😂, maybe they just dont think your opinion has a solid base. We need to redefine toxicity in this community, it seems like almost everyone is such snowflake where just because someone disagree with them, they get offended and call you toxic 😅 like how do you go through life, brother 😂. It just a perpetual Love Kuro - Kuro is dead - Love Kuro EVERY SINGLE PATCH, it's stupid.
I can't recall a gacha game ever getting this much drama feed back with positive/negative criticism. Like by the end of the day it is a gacha game, it's not going to last forever (Keep crushing the competition kuro).
Honestly I’m kinda wondering if this was almost like a forest fire and when 2.0 comes around, we’ll be perfectly positioned to heal become greener than ever. I can’t wait!
I do not worry about legit criticism or legit suggestions to improve the game. But most of the criticism on WuWa has been destructive and malicious since day 1. It will fail. It sucks. Does not get money, will EOS. Currently, we have this group of CCs that throw criticism at mechanics that show they don't understand the game, that they want to make everything easier, or that they want WuWa to become more like Genshin and less like WuWa. And once anyone poibts out the inaccuracies, the failures of the CC or the fact that WuWa will only survive if it remains not-a-Genshin-clone, they get offended and accuse you of being a shill, bot, or outright block you from commenting or erase your comments. CCs should learn that they are, like Kuro, presenting a producs for public consumption (their videos), and that just as they criticize the game, we can, do, and will criticize their videos. The more vicious criticism they dish, the more vicious replies they will get (Saint should learn this). The more foolish, incoherent and ragebaity videos they put, they more foolish, incoherent and raging comments they will get (other CCs like Vars should learn this).
Ryuuku Sensei Likes Wuthering Waves, I watched it. He criticized 8 important points in my opinion, but not all of them need to be fixed, there are some points that will actually be fixed in 2.0. I respect him because he really criticizes according to portion, not excessively. For those outside of that, the attacks on Wuthering Waves have been getting more massive since 2.0 was introduced. They're like saying "Be like Genshin". There's a lot of criticism from those who want Wuthering Waves to follow Genshin in every way. Although Wuthering Waves is built from PGR with a combination of Nier references. So this is a different game from Genshin, there is no need to compare it. Then the Wuthering Waves community is actually fine, we also know that Kuro always listens to Player input. But that's how it is, Genshin fans always show hatred towards Wuthering Waves and create problems by badmouthing Wuthering Waves.
Gamba I love watching you but please do less or not at all any drama react content. It's boring it's pointless it hurts the game more than it helps anyone just don't get involved with it not worth it. ❤️ Help the community make content about the game not pointless drama for kids it will achieve nothing.
the game itself has never been better. the CC space is just a bunch of children grasping at straws for any scrap of content to farm. and what usually drives clicks is controversy. they are just trying to make money.
About Ryuuku Sensei's video,it just confirmed to me he's a Kurobot at heart lmao, his criticisms gave the feeling of him along all other players just wants the game to get even better, it didn't give a feeling of hate he didn't even feel annoyed, he was more like "hey Kuro improve your sh*t so we could enjoy the fcking game more" type of vibe. His real rant and when he was almost on the verge of crashing out was with HSR, if you compare him on that video and in his WuWa video you'll see the difference
A card game won because 90% of the vote is determined by games journalists. 75% of which don't even cover or know videogames. 20% of which are glorified bloggers and actively hate videogames.
People take things face value too quick, half year later, way too many people still think wuwa is genshin clone, still bad, and whatever without even try it. Then all the drama? It is a bad PR done by cc even few of them really like wuwa. And I'm not sure if they see it as it is. And meanwhile what is mihoyo doing? Real PR. It's not a good time to fight eachother. It's the end of the year and christmas is coming, just think about what a random people will do. "Ah, I have time now, let's play some games! What is this? Wuwa? It looks bad tho, all the video, hum... I'd try another."
And that is the problem. So many CCs have created videos talking about how WuWa is dying, it's awful, all its mechanics are bad, all their characters are not worth it, that someone HAD to go out and call them on their lies. Does it create drama? yes. But it was started by them.
@WongA-y5j but Asia gamers arent brainded like westard whos only talks just like what happen when Cygames doing scummy moves on GBF summer lottery and whole GBF community making Cygames stocks freefall Asian market arent that stupid especially CN, KR, and JP gamers, and from that 3 alone can carry Kuro
Wuwa is getting a lot of drama because people don’t know how to play it properly-things like rotation and other mechanics. Come on, bro, just let them play. Some people hate Wuwa because its usability design doesn’t really work well for users, both in terms of UI and functionality (they're even calling it "buggering waves"). In my opinion, Kuro seems more focused on delivering events rather than prioritizing ease of use for the game. The UI could definitely be better, and the functionality could use some improvement. Maybe the UI/UX department at Kuro Games is limited, or the code just doesn’t align well with the design. Personally, I’m fine with it. After all, maintenance is part of development, and while the system UI and functionality can sometimes be annoying, I don’t really mind. I’ve played console games like PSP, where the controls aren’t the best, but I still enjoy the game because it’s fun.
Well if they find bugs or have performance issues. Then is their devices that have problems. Personally im not having that good of devices that can support high graphics, but i never had performance issue since 1.1. I just want to say they have been doing well and hard to this topics. But some people might be not realizes thats they are the problems not the game.
Agreed. Although I don't know how the UI/UX is bad in your opinion or how it should be improved. I play with a 360 controller, and find it useable. Some buttong being hidden under LB+button is a bit uncomfortable, but it works 98% of the times.
I still can't believe a game i didn't know existed until a week ago won multiple awards at the game award . I now believe the game awards are truly rigged.
Also about the Saint and smack situation I like both creators unfortunate both jabbed at each other
Don't be like Sainttontas. He gives the Wuwa Community a bad rep.
Ryuku Sensei actually loves Wuthering Waves and his video is a critique on how it could (have) be(en) better. However I think the choices that WUWA made were the right ones because the game turned out successful that a lot of people enjoy and appreciate.
Thanks for letting me know
Yeah, that's a pretty common thing for CN devs, they usually cater their CN players
F it that dude Ryuku be yapping a lot .. i watch his discussion with saintontas.. that mf need to talk alot to give simple critics i don't even understand none of his points like his yapping for a lot and i mean a lot ..
The hate for wuwa suddenly spiked now that 2.0 is approaching - which has been anticipated as a soft relaunch for the game. Seems the hoyodogs are getting a bit insecure and doing everything they can to spoil it. Its so covenient that Saint has been a hot topic lately so they use him as an excuse to just pile on the negativity.
Sooner you realize all this internet drama only matters to 1% of the (terminally online) community, the sooner you will enjoy the game much more for what it is. So just sit back, relax, and get hype for 2.0 because we all know its going to be the biggest update yet
Yup, saint really did pick a lot of useless fights with the most g cc. Like what he's doing is not helping the community but make it worse.
Is okay to criticize that cc and give the correct opinion for the game. But recently, he's just doing a lot of drama that is supposed not to be happening.
I'm also hyped for 2.0 i can't wait any longer. And is good that the leaks is now gone.
I play both ZZZ and Wuwa... 1.4 and 2.0 releases back to back. Buddy I am eating good 😂🎉
@@excledshadow the problem with saint is he knows more about Hoyo than Kuro
Trust me when I say the hoyo community doesn’t care about anything wuwa or kuro is doing. Y’all think about hoyo more than you do your own game 😂
@@TerraTheWise yet.....here you are
Let's be honest, after Saintontas emerged, there's way less controversial takes on WuWa and consequently CCs take more effort in producing their videos instead of the usual low quality contents that we usually get. No matter how you want to argue this, his role is quite irreplaceable in WuWa's community as of this moment.
Examples?
@@TerraTheWise Prydwen fixing their websites? A lot of CCs that claiming on how WuWa combat was worse than Genshin? Do I have to list more?
Exactly. Saintontas make very logical points while the other CCs were making rubbish points. And then when they were called out, they get all hurty about it and go into logical fallacies as come backs. Yet for those of us who understand how logic works, the other CCs were full of it.
You should watch the stream. Saintone and Ryuuku Sensei made up in a single stream. Saintone needs to realize his raging self isn't liked. Once he fixes that, we'll get back to normal content.
All CCs have their faults:
1. Iyo says weird things. (As usual)
2. Vars spreads misinformation in the weirdest way where he contradicted himself.
3. Gacha Smack's videos are incomplete and lack depth compared to TouhouSniper. He made a 30-min video on a simple point that could be a 1-min TikTok about ToA problems which doesn't even give any solution.
4. Fobs hates all Gacha.
5. MrPokke started drama, saying there's not enough WuWa criticism, though other CCs do it, not Saintone. Saintone can only voice existing game issues, not as an expert in story and endgame. Ryuuku Sensei does that.
6. Ryuuku Sensei has the best takes on WuWa story but not endgame. Even Tectone notes his problems exist because he's in the endgame.
To solve this:
1. Vars needs a friend like Saintone's editor.
2. Gacha Smack should focus on quality over rushed videos.
3. Saintone needs to control his emotions and stop attacking everyone.
4. Ryuuku Sensei needs some support.
5. Vars should talk with Brax before posting videos.
6. Iyo needs better proofreading.
Also, MrPokke doesn't know investment law. Tencent does not own Kuro Games. By Chinese investment law, you must own 61% for control. Tencent signed an agreement to receive profit dividends instead of control. There's a huge difference between stocks for control and dividends.
I hope Tectone talks to Gacha Smack soon. I don't want any CC to stop making videos; I want them to improve.
Also please don't just defending everything the CC does. You can see how criticism on Saintone actually make him tone down by a lot. He rarely make raging stream now too. He only does that for a BIG bad video which is a miles better.
I actually liked Ryuuku sensei's video because it's a genuine critique on what more to improve. What I am really getting tired of is the CC dramas like Smack vs Saintontas, Pokke vs Saintontas, etc. some of the problems of these CCs are casual players vs hardcore players thing which they cannot get into a middle ground on that. Other things also like biases towards other gacha games, etc. It really is getting tiring tbh. So I muted those channels for now.
I totally agree. Really tired of all the drama. Saintontas becoming more unhinged in their content has made stop watching.
The thing is, the hate wuwa gets (Not the CC war) usually are some criticisms that have weight. Like Ryuuku sensei's video is made quite well. Gachasmack and Vars don't have that much weigh since it's built on the foundation and believe that they have about Genshin.
The deal with the amount of criticism is (In My Opinion) caused by Kuro actually having both proof and track record that they are listening to the playerbase instead of turning a blind eye and plugging their ears to criticism.
It's actually both amazing and interesting how Genshin criticisms usually gets shutdown but a well made criticism towards WuWa just made both the community and devs happy.
Kuro devs really made wuwa the best game. Awesome story, infinite stamina, crazy characters design difficult levels for players and lastly great rewards. Let them cook🧑🍳🔥
Imo some people need to grow up 😂 disagree with someone criticism doesnt mean they are toxic, it also doesnt mean they are shilling, it just means they disagree with you, maybe your opinion is just trash 😂, maybe they just dont think your opinion has a solid base.
We need to redefine toxicity in this community, it seems like almost everyone is such snowflake where just because someone disagree with them, they get offended and call you toxic 😅 like how do you go through life, brother 😂.
It just a perpetual Love Kuro - Kuro is dead - Love Kuro EVERY SINGLE PATCH, it's stupid.
i like saintontas content, he objective but spicy word
I can't recall a gacha game ever getting this much drama feed back with positive/negative criticism. Like by the end of the day it is a gacha game, it's not going to last forever (Keep crushing the competition kuro).
Tbh I agree with your points the game is in the best state the drama was kind of out of nowhere but we eating as for the future of WuWa
One thing i learn is that if you criticized negative on WUWA they (Kuroshills) will accused you for being hoyoshills or being bad at the game. 🤷
Honestly I’m kinda wondering if this was almost like a forest fire and when 2.0 comes around, we’ll be perfectly positioned to heal become greener than ever. I can’t wait!
I do not worry about legit criticism or legit suggestions to improve the game.
But most of the criticism on WuWa has been destructive and malicious since day 1.
It will fail.
It sucks.
Does not get money, will EOS.
Currently, we have this group of CCs that throw criticism at mechanics that show they don't understand the game, that they want to make everything easier, or that they want WuWa to become more like Genshin and less like WuWa.
And once anyone poibts out the inaccuracies, the failures of the CC or the fact that WuWa will only survive if it remains not-a-Genshin-clone, they get offended and accuse you of being a shill, bot, or outright block you from commenting or erase your comments.
CCs should learn that they are, like Kuro, presenting a producs for public consumption (their videos), and that just as they criticize the game, we can, do, and will criticize their videos.
The more vicious criticism they dish, the more vicious replies they will get (Saint should learn this).
The more foolish, incoherent and ragebaity videos they put, they more foolish, incoherent and raging comments they will get (other CCs like Vars should learn this).
The content creation scene of WuWa gives me a fucking headache. I wish people would just chill out.
Respect the game , respect the players and respect your self with your competitor
Ryuuku Sensei Likes Wuthering Waves, I watched it. He criticized 8 important points in my opinion, but not all of them need to be fixed, there are some points that will actually be fixed in 2.0. I respect him because he really criticizes according to portion, not excessively. For those outside of that, the attacks on Wuthering Waves have been getting more massive since 2.0 was introduced. They're like saying "Be like Genshin". There's a lot of criticism from those who want Wuthering Waves to follow Genshin in every way. Although Wuthering Waves is built from PGR with a combination of Nier references. So this is a different game from Genshin, there is no need to compare it. Then the Wuthering Waves community is actually fine, we also know that Kuro always listens to Player input. But that's how it is, Genshin fans always show hatred towards Wuthering Waves and create problems by badmouthing Wuthering Waves.
The goatttt i am curious to hear your thoughts
Gamba, please save wuwa Community !!!!!
Gamba I love watching you but please do less or not at all any drama react content.
It's boring it's pointless it hurts the game more than it helps anyone just don't get involved with it not worth it. ❤️
Help the community make content about the game not pointless drama for kids it will achieve nothing.
i just remove these cc from my feed. unnecessary Brain rot. i just enjoy game myself now. have only sub to ya and maygi
Maygi is love ❤
the game itself has never been better. the CC space is just a bunch of children grasping at straws for any scrap of content to farm. and what usually drives clicks is controversy. they are just trying to make money.
Gacha Smack critique was shallow then comparing to spiral abyss and at the end contradicting himself 🥴🥱
About Ryuuku Sensei's video,it just confirmed to me he's a Kurobot at heart lmao, his criticisms gave the feeling of him along all other players just wants the game to get even better, it didn't give a feeling of hate he didn't even feel annoyed, he was more like "hey Kuro improve your sh*t so we could enjoy the fcking game more" type of vibe.
His real rant and when he was almost on the verge of crashing out was with HSR, if you compare him on that video and in his WuWa video you'll see the difference
Because he was right, hsr was shit in penacony. Now you act like a hsr shill
I see this as the only reason that card game won it had more categories to choose from in the genre of games it was listed in.
A card game won because 90% of the vote is determined by games journalists.
75% of which don't even cover or know videogames.
20% of which are glorified bloggers and actively hate videogames.
People take things face value too quick, half year later, way too many people still think wuwa is genshin clone, still bad, and whatever without even try it.
Then all the drama? It is a bad PR done by cc even few of them really like wuwa. And I'm not sure if they see it as it is.
And meanwhile what is mihoyo doing? Real PR. It's not a good time to fight eachother. It's the end of the year and christmas is coming, just think about what a random people will do.
"Ah, I have time now, let's play some games! What is this? Wuwa? It looks bad tho, all the video, hum... I'd try another."
And that is the problem.
So many CCs have created videos talking about how WuWa is dying, it's awful, all its mechanics are bad, all their characters are not worth it, that someone HAD to go out and call them on their lies.
Does it create drama? yes.
But it was started by them.
I want stioorg video reaction he really did the best critique
Ryuku's vid is't that bad. Just very click baity.
YOOOO GAMBAAA!!!!!
all these haters will be there at 2.0 release lmao
this is why Kuro havent focus on global lmao
good thing that Kuro mostly focus on Asia market more 🤭
western market already brainwashed by mihoscam
you do realise hoyo is also just as popular, if not more popular in asia than the west.
@WongA-y5j but Asia gamers arent brainded like westard whos only talks
just like what happen when Cygames doing scummy moves on GBF summer lottery and whole GBF community making Cygames stocks freefall
Asian market arent that stupid especially CN, KR, and JP gamers, and from that 3 alone can carry Kuro
@@theballance9748Please stop glazing asian gamers.
They are normal humans with flaws like western gamers.
You mean the state of the Content Creators? Coz the game is doing fine as far as i remember 😅
Wuwa is getting a lot of drama because people don’t know how to play it properly-things like rotation and other mechanics. Come on, bro, just let them play.
Some people hate Wuwa because its usability design doesn’t really work well for users, both in terms of UI and functionality (they're even calling it "buggering waves").
In my opinion, Kuro seems more focused on delivering events rather than prioritizing ease of use for the game. The UI could definitely be better, and the functionality could use some improvement. Maybe the UI/UX department at Kuro Games is limited, or the code just doesn’t align well with the design.
Personally, I’m fine with it. After all, maintenance is part of development, and while the system UI and functionality can sometimes be annoying, I don’t really mind. I’ve played console games like PSP, where the controls aren’t the best, but I still enjoy the game because it’s fun.
Well if they find bugs or have performance issues. Then is their devices that have problems.
Personally im not having that good of devices that can support high graphics, but i never had performance issue since 1.1.
I just want to say they have been doing well and hard to this topics. But some people might be not realizes thats they are the problems not the game.
That buggering waves thing was gacha smack lying and cropping images. The UI has been worked on, we saw it in the 2.0 showcase in CN
Agreed.
Although I don't know how the UI/UX is bad in your opinion or how it should be improved.
I play with a 360 controller, and find it useable. Some buttong being hidden under LB+button is a bit uncomfortable, but it works 98% of the times.
Hello!
I still can't believe a game i didn't know existed until a week ago won multiple awards at the game award . I now believe the game awards are truly rigged.