48:27 the way sonu choosed the song "nikle the kabhi" lyrics by javed akhtar, song from film directed by raju hirani and singer sonu nigam all are sitting on the same stage on this occasion ....he can choose his best song but he choose this ..presence of mind brilliant 🙏❤❤
This gave me something to introspect. Javed Sahab is speaking at his level, in this 1 billion people there's only one like him. AI might not affect the likes of him or them on stage, but those are probably 1 in a million, but for others AI is easily replaceable.
Mr Akhtar is a master of words. So he will find the right words and so he is more convincing to you then others . Even Javed Akhtar is replaceable . A perception that you are organic or authentic will hv another meaning . Spontaneity will always be compared to machines as well and does not matter
Sonu Ji always speaks honestly, liked the whole video but that section where Sonu Ji was demonstrating that how stuff changes and the humor at 28:37! overall it was good
Because you haven’t actually heard him speak before, outside of some clips here and there. Plz watch some full length Sonu Nigam interviews and you’ll see he’s one of the most intelligent minds we have.
@@Englishwithrohitraina I agree; he is incredibly smart and articulate but I also feel he is positioning himself for a future in politics . Not a bad thing; we need some bold, courageous people in Indian politics.
@@Okg03Did Sonu personally said you to accept bageshwar dham as avatar? Why can't you guys leave people with whatever faiths they carry in their head.
@@Sada_6207 lol exactly what has led this country to have Ram Rahims and Asarams fool millions. Public figures are never held answerable to all that they support/endorse, instead an army of blind fools come and start defending them even before they themselves can. Just btw, if you think Sonu or the kinds of him endorsed these 2 paisa baba for 'faith' and not the maal they get in exchange, you're insulting your own intellignece my friend.
I am a software engineer , Now , AI can do all the work in few minutes that I.used to do in weeks with some mistakes but AI is doing efficietly.. It can do work of 100 people , compamy will only hire 4-5 people to manage it .. Then how will software enginmers survibe in this era
All tasks which are repetitive in nature can be easily replaced by AI But creativity will always be one of the last things to be replaced by it As I don't believe ai is able to 'create' something that doesn't exist at the same level of a human (at least not in the near future)
AI generated art is like an ULTRA-REALISTICCC plastic flower. No wonder the technology is novel but can it create novel things??? Looks like we are at the cusp of an era of digital plastic.
Seeing These four people on stage talking about Art and AI...makes me believe that really AI can't replace Artists...it can only replace ordinary people.👌
Nice to see such a discussion, but the presence of a subject expert too is necessary. Not one person on the panel has a nuanced understanding of what AI actually is at a level that they understand their respective fields of specialisation.
These people are great in mathematics and reasoning. They are the masters of their respective profession. And you're here in the comment section raving about science@@humaamarifeen1413
Save for Shekar, they seemed to be here to put forth their views, not to learn and grow, which requires humility. Comparatively, her discussion with Swami Sarvapriyananda was far more fruitful, since his openness allowed Shoma to really challenge his assertions.
People who won’t change will be replaced .. be Javed Akhtar or anybody else.. hence it’s beneficial to understand what AI is first… but nice shayari 👍🏻
They all are legends and showed their views, but you could have asked to join somebody who has vast knowledge of AI, he/she may counter them. Javed Sahab comments deterioting day by day...😢
Forget AI, Shekhar Kapur and Rajkumar Hirani are easily replaceable by some common man trained in that field. AI can't reach the vicinity of Sonu Nigam and Javed Akhtar.
The anchor, perhaps well intentioned, seemed to miss the point entirely : - She is interviewing the top 0.001% creative minds of India who have lived their lifes creating 0 to 1. Their livelihood or art isn’t at threat with AI. - India’s outsourcing tech and BPO boom has entirely been build around repetitive work. If anything that is the short term economic threat from AI in india. There is a large population of graduates and post graduates whose employment may hit an existential crisis. No point in expecting Javed Akhtar or Sonu Nigam to speak to this issue - they aren’t economists or tech entrepreneurs. - To invite the most creative in the country and say that “you haven’t used it/read up” of AI or “we will see in 6 months if your job will remain”, is immature and pretty disrespectful. And yet the guests summarized it well. It’s a tool, and a very powerful tool. That will create disruption and give the power of creativity to everyone. But to assume that it will take human innovation away is unwarranted. Google search has not made everyone a doctor nor has it destroyed medical profession, PC & PowerPoint hasn’t made all of us CEO’s. Tools will displace jobs, but will also invent many more. And yet I’m thankful for this conversation. Thank you!
great points, can't agree more. A few people from the AI Philosopher or some one from the Macroeconomics community would have brought a more nuanced points from other side of the spectrum as well.
@mikekroft Thinking that anything more than “osm vro” must be generated by ChatGPT says more about your intellectual bankruptcy, than the commentor’s. Tu reels dekh le, wohi tere liye sahi hai…
“Their livelihood isn't threatened by AI” No, but that's because they've already made a name for themselves. What about equally competent talent that hasn't been discovered? They say that generative AI can't replace the top artists in each field, but if it replaces entry-level creative jobs, then how will future generations of artists develop their skills to reach the level of those currently at the top? “To invite creatives and say… ‘you haven't used it’, or ‘we'll see in six months whether your job remains, is pretty disrespectful” She had to push back, because, save for Shekhar Kapur, argued from a place of human exceptionalism, without explaining why emotion and consciousness were exclusively human traits. It was clear they were here to put forth their views, not to learn and grow, which requires humility. Comparatively, her discussion with Swami Sarvapriyananda was far more fruitful, since his openness allowed Shoma to really challenge his assertions.
This discussion reminds me of one of the stories written bye R. K Narayan masterpiece ' Malgudi Days' -,The Vendor Of sweets' .The foreign returned Son of this mithaiwala brought a story writing machine .One had to type few words to get a story automatically. The father was aghast! His objection was the same as of the present pannel." What about emotions!! " At the end The son failed in his endeavor. Interesting discussion!
What Javed Akhtar saab said at around 31:00 is actually not true. He is right that untill or unless you have experienced the pain of hunger you can't write good poetry around it. Okay, but nowadaysor possibly in near future people and makers won't need some incredible poetry but something simpler and just above average. Very talented people would be jobless and very cheap non creative people will flourish. For popularity of that average content, there is always money to market it forcefully on social media.
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Stage gimmicks are also there Sonu ji Humility is an integral aspect of creativity and being human. Let's all be humble and don't take strong sides on AI and be in a constant state of I don't know and exploration. May be time for us to go beyond creativity into existence.
What on earth does this comment mean? Sonu is a singer who never lip synchs, what gimmicks would he be using on stage? And what is this lecture on humility to a guy who has been incredibly famous and loved by millions of fans for 35 years and still seems like a pretty cool, laid back guy!!
What I have observed is that the creative community massively lacks basic understanding of physics and neural networks. Their knowledge of AI is very surface level. Moreover, the human arrogance is so f*in irritating. We are doomed. There is a reason why bollywood never created movies like Matrix, Her, ExMachina, etc.
Exactly bro..... satyajit Ray said the same thing about India public too.....we are extremely medicore people... who can't envision things beyond a certain point.....
You cannot have a discussion on AI without including an expert who knows the difference between “general” artificial intelligence and specialised intelligence and how to bridge the gap between them. That remains the holy grail of AI. What these people are failing to understand is that the source or process of creativity is not important if its manifestation/end result appears the same.
What a terrible introduction. of the guests. It was embarrassingly bad. Describing Sonu Nigam as a "Trojan horse" was laughable. People need to look up these definitions before using them.
As brilliant as Javed sahab and Sonu Nigam are, they are too stuck up in their ghamand. You have to embrace technology and use it than to avoid it. Shekhar, Raju and RAhman sir have the best and progressive way of thinking. It's always survival of the fittest. Sonu especially lives a lot in his past
@@Nina-oi1qk That tirade of when technology started composers started singing, then actors started singing is the ghamand part. Everyone has a right to sing if he/she wants to. Better to keep andh bhakti aside for people before commenting on comments
@@rickyproctor6562He said “everybody has right to cherish the art of music even if it’s through autotune.” Go and get yourself tested, you seem too young to suffer from whatever this is. Or go buy a house next to a mosque to wake up every morning at 4 unwantedly - that’s where this is coming from obviously.
Javed Akhtar is so adamant at some things that he believes is true that he seems ignorant about the entire other aspects of the things he is talking about. AI is not even in it's adolescence and it's doing all this... When humans create, it's just a recycling of our memories.. We're not really creating something new, we're just giving an art to memory.. It's data.. And AI has access to 10000 times more data than us... People who learn to adapt it will get ahead.
Give him a break... He's not supposed to. He is and has been on peak of his world (which has no neural network design engineers in it). He will continue to do his best work for the next 30-50 years at best. AI will affect his lifespan's end era if at all. He is in the perfect position to do what he did on stage and actually he brought out a very good point about Breathless. When Sonu ji replied that AI can now replicate Breathless he could have replied that "Do you want another Breathless? When we created Breathless we were an instance of ourselves which we weren't a year ago than that."
Very politely I would like to disagree to the ignorance these maestro showcasing. I understand that performing art is yet to be encroached by AI but apart from that AI is doing a fabulous work.
She had to push back, because, save for Shekhar Kapur, argued from a place of human exceptionalism, without explaining why emotion and consciousness were exclusively human traits. It was clear they were here to put forth their views, not to learn and grow, which requires humility. Comparatively, her discussion with Swami Sarvapriyananda was far more fruitful, since his openness allowed Shoma to really challenge his assertions.
Human "learning" is built on backs of before ....Creativity is distinctly different than learning Seven billion wounded childhood wouldn't be creative but collective chaotic coverage Approximation, Cannibalization absence of feeling can at best copy, plagiarise or make a better copy but certainly not create ... Ma'am, I guess you are confusing creativity with production....While AI can definitely serve as a leveller in creating a platform for creativity for all but as Sonu Nigam rightly said the differentiator will be that... Approximation and Creativity
honourable mr javed akhtar please if my question reaches just one question for you 1. the AI technology is made by humans for humans right? so you think people like you who dont rely on AI are absolutely creative but at the same time if that technology is made by human so dont you think those human will also be efficient as you are, to make that technology deal with whatever it lacks now as you say.
Shoma does bring out the worst in Javed Saab. Her constant push and shove brings out the frustrations of a great mind of our times. I love how Shekhar sir is optimistic about the development of AI and the democracy of the creators. Mr. Hirani didn't speak much. Sonu has an actor who should get a show for himself.
The data that makes AI powerful comes from the very experts who may find themselves outperformed by the AI they helped train. They will never replace humans, bcoz AI needs data to thrive but humans can create an art in a traditional way without AI assistance. One thing is certain that ut will make us dumber😅
He is speaking at his level, in this 1 billion people there's only one like him. AI might not affect the likes of him or them on stage but those are probably 1 in a million but for others AI is easily replaceable.
The fear is humans are made into machines, thinking in such binary without spaces of exploration. Poorly structured symposium with respect to same, thinking in binary and not moderating and silent on silence, where critical philosophy emerges.
JAVED AKHTAR - doesn't believe in his own mind and opinion but Carl Segan and Stephan Hawking did not miss out on a chance to insult Sadhguru by acting like he dint remember his name one of the wisest minds of India, just because Javed cant stand the debate heat and opinions of others especially Sadhguru here. Akhtar must be a great artist but not sure about the kind of human being he is , very rude and unnecessarily dominating.
The prosperous middle class intellectuals who want to serve the system, “ select” their subjects, philosophize those subjects, which serve the system, making the system stronger ( serving it gives the system an additional strength), and getting more powerful in being more aggressive against what is not wanted by the system, in polytics.
@@kawishabbasi9459 It was a reference to the professor from _3 Idiots_ who couldn't understand what Rancho was saying. Kya kehna chahte ho? What are you trying to say?
Do biochemistry and physiology with AI... Lol . JA is correct that we know little of our brain or any other organism. AI is far,far, far in physiology or genomics. Carbohydrates is a mess, lipid is a bigger miss... we know only less than 1 % not 10%. Actually, we dont know what % we know.
AI is another new gift to mankind. Remember old guys here can calculate 25x25. Ask your son he would use calculator of his mobile. Let me assure you I will be quicker. I can solve with simple creative function out of my mind. AI is another new tool that will take away your calculator too. Lazy smart guys will enjoy this AI but I can smell is this is real or AI created.
48:27 the way sonu choosed the song "nikle the kabhi" lyrics by javed akhtar, song from film directed by raju hirani and singer sonu nigam all are sitting on the same stage on this occasion ....he can choose his best song but he choose this ..presence of mind brilliant 🙏❤❤
to be honest, he was the best speaker and most brilliant and humourous on this stage.
Hence proved he is not unsecured by AI
Sonu nigam gives live example that his voice cannot be affected or replaced by auto tunner and AI 😅
Javed Akhtar Saab, Raju Hirani , Shekhar Kapoor and the King Sonu Nigam..... These are the great brains of Indian Art ❤🎉
This gave me something to introspect. Javed Sahab is speaking at his level, in this 1 billion people there's only one like him. AI might not affect the likes of him or them on stage, but those are probably 1 in a million, but for others AI is easily replaceable.
40% of indian tech workforce can be easily replaced
Mr Akhtar is a master of words. So he will find the right words and so he is more convincing to you then others . Even Javed Akhtar is replaceable . A perception that you are organic or authentic will hv another meaning . Spontaneity will always be compared to machines as well and does not matter
No AI can replace Javed Akhtar Sir
Sonu Nigam ❤❤
Sonu Ji always speaks honestly, liked the whole video but that section where Sonu Ji was demonstrating that how stuff changes and the humor at 28:37! overall it was good
28:08 WTF!! Sonu Nigam Just did a Live Melodyne ( Autotune ) Demonstration ! Next Level !
It is true that Autotune needs Sonu Nigam
Sonu nigam kild it
Sonu sir❤❤❤
AI is watching them all in a corner and smirking 😂
😂😂😂😂
Never heard Sonu speak so intelligently. Pleasantly surprising. Jawed and Raju and Shekhar , stellar as usual
and then he goes to Bageshwar dham and calls the guy an 'avatar' literally, unsurprise yourself sir.
Because you haven’t actually heard him speak before, outside of some clips here and there. Plz watch some full length Sonu Nigam interviews and you’ll see he’s one of the most intelligent minds we have.
@@Englishwithrohitraina I agree; he is incredibly smart and articulate but I also feel he is positioning himself for a future in politics . Not a bad thing; we need some bold, courageous people in Indian politics.
@@Okg03Did Sonu personally said you to accept bageshwar dham as avatar? Why can't you guys leave people with whatever faiths they carry in their head.
@@Sada_6207 lol exactly what has led this country to have Ram Rahims and Asarams fool millions. Public figures are never held answerable to all that they support/endorse, instead an army of blind fools come and start defending them even before they themselves can.
Just btw, if you think Sonu or the kinds of him endorsed these 2 paisa baba for 'faith' and not the maal they get in exchange, you're insulting your own intellignece my friend.
Nigam saab killed it
Nigam Saab always kills it; he has become bolder and more articulate in the last few years , in his opinions. All for the better!
I am a software engineer ,
Now , AI can do all the work in few minutes that I.used to do in weeks with some mistakes but AI is doing efficietly..
It can do work of 100 people , compamy will only hire 4-5 people to manage it ..
Then how will software enginmers survibe in this era
New Way !
All tasks which are repetitive in nature can be easily replaced by AI
But creativity will always be one of the last things to be replaced by it
As I don't believe ai is able to 'create' something that doesn't exist at the same level of a human (at least not in the near future)
AI generated art is like an ULTRA-REALISTICCC plastic flower. No wonder the technology is novel but can it create novel things??? Looks like we are at the cusp of an era of digital plastic.
Sonu nigam only
Sonu great response and gave good answer for AI
Seeing These four people on stage talking about Art and AI...makes me believe that really AI can't replace Artists...it can only replace ordinary people.👌
Nice to see such a discussion, but the presence of a subject expert too is necessary. Not one person on the panel has a nuanced understanding of what AI actually is at a level that they understand their respective fields of specialisation.
Brilliant observation......
A technical gurus presence would have helped....coz he would have given a perspective like no one..
Sonu Nigam, Arijit singh, Atif Aslam, hariharan... Seriously singers born once in a millenium!!
Frankly Sonu Nigam is the only one that you can say is born once in a millennium.
They don't have a little bit of idea what AI's capabilities are,and how exponentially its growing.
itna science samjhte nahi log indian industry mein.
These people are great in mathematics and reasoning. They are the masters of their respective profession. And you're here in the comment section raving about science@@humaamarifeen1413
Such a learned wise man Mr. Legendary Javed Akhtar ji 🎉 🙏 Respected sir..when you speak, I always listen very attentively n admirably 🎉❤
The poem Javed sahab recited is from the album ‘Sisila’ - a collaboration between himself and Jagjit Singh. And he was paid for the lyrics.
56:21 agree with Raju's point
CREATIVITY is that in which our heart can dance and our soul feel it which AI never can do ART is experimental 🌼
Shoma is an intelligent anchor. Very rare these days.
The fact is they all know very well AI is going to rule the coming days.
‼️ I am watching shoma ji from last 10 years, i must say here
She is a Genius.,❤️
Shoma could you please prepare better with the introductions of the guests?
😂
It was.pathetic and weak
Well said, it was embarrassing to introduce them so badly.
They should have someone from science and AI fraternity....
this was about Art and AI.
that would have ended the discussion before it started.
Shoma! You have really impressive arguments. I hope next time your panelists can really sense what you are actually trying to point out.
Save for Shekar, they seemed to be here to put forth their views, not to learn and grow, which requires humility.
Comparatively, her discussion with Swami Sarvapriyananda was far more fruitful, since his openness allowed Shoma to really challenge his assertions.
People who won’t change will be replaced .. be Javed Akhtar or anybody else.. hence it’s beneficial to understand what AI is first… but nice shayari 👍🏻
I wish this went longer... Insightful
They all are legends and showed their views, but you could have asked to join somebody who has vast knowledge of AI, he/she may counter them.
Javed Sahab comments deterioting day by day...😢
Here we need Sadhguru again for Javed saab😂😂😂
Did you think he dared brother 😂
AI watching this and taking notes
Javed Saab😎😎😎🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I'm glad that Indian artists stand out of the pack.
Forget AI, Shekhar Kapur and Rajkumar Hirani are easily replaceable by some common man trained in that field. AI can't reach the vicinity of Sonu Nigam and Javed Akhtar.
Why aren't you replacing them? You seem pretty common to me
@@shashwat69 unlike you I have higher standards
@@maverick792 I can very well see your standards
@@shashwat69 yes you are all seeing...all pervading....mr know it all...picking up fights online with strangers...great going
Absolutely loved this conversations
The anchor, perhaps well intentioned, seemed to miss the point entirely :
- She is interviewing the top 0.001% creative minds of India who have lived their lifes creating 0 to 1. Their livelihood or art isn’t at threat with AI.
- India’s outsourcing tech and BPO boom has entirely been build around repetitive work. If anything that is the short term economic threat from AI in india. There is a large population of graduates and post graduates whose employment may hit an existential crisis. No point in expecting Javed Akhtar or Sonu Nigam to speak to this issue - they aren’t economists or tech entrepreneurs.
- To invite the most creative in the country and say that “you haven’t used it/read up” of AI or “we will see in 6 months if your job will remain”, is immature and pretty disrespectful.
And yet the guests summarized it well. It’s a tool, and a very powerful tool. That will create disruption and give the power of creativity to everyone. But to assume that it will take human innovation away is unwarranted. Google search has not made everyone a doctor nor has it destroyed medical profession, PC & PowerPoint hasn’t made all of us CEO’s. Tools will displace jobs, but will also invent many more. And yet I’m thankful for this conversation. Thank you!
great points, can't agree more. A few people from the AI Philosopher or some one from the Macroeconomics community would have brought a more nuanced points from other side of the spectrum as well.
@mikekroft Thinking that anything more than “osm vro” must be generated by ChatGPT says more about your intellectual bankruptcy, than the commentor’s.
Tu reels dekh le, wohi tere liye sahi hai…
“Their livelihood isn't threatened by AI”
No, but that's because they've already made a name for themselves. What about equally competent talent that hasn't been discovered?
They say that generative AI can't replace the top artists in each field, but if it replaces entry-level creative jobs, then how will future generations of artists develop their skills to reach the level of those currently at the top?
“To invite creatives and say… ‘you haven't used it’, or ‘we'll see in six months whether your job remains, is pretty disrespectful”
She had to push back, because, save for Shekhar Kapur, argued from a place of human exceptionalism, without explaining why emotion and consciousness were exclusively human traits.
It was clear they were here to put forth their views, not to learn and grow, which requires humility.
Comparatively, her discussion with Swami Sarvapriyananda was far more fruitful, since his openness allowed Shoma to really challenge his assertions.
This discussion reminds me of one of the stories written bye R. K Narayan masterpiece ' Malgudi Days' -,The Vendor Of sweets' .The foreign returned Son of this mithaiwala brought a story writing machine .One had to type few words to get a story automatically. The father was aghast! His objection was the same as of the present pannel." What about emotions!! "
At the end The son failed in his endeavor.
Interesting discussion!
What Javed Akhtar saab said at around 31:00 is actually not true. He is right that untill or unless you have experienced the pain of hunger you can't write good poetry around it. Okay, but nowadaysor possibly in near future people and makers won't need some incredible poetry but something simpler and just above average. Very talented people would be jobless and very cheap non creative people will flourish. For popularity of that average content, there is always money to market it forcefully on social media.
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Stage gimmicks are also there Sonu ji
Humility is an integral aspect of creativity and being human.
Let's all be humble and don't take strong sides on AI and be in a constant state of I don't know and exploration.
May be time for us to go beyond creativity into existence.
What on earth does this comment mean? Sonu is a singer who never lip synchs, what gimmicks would he be using on stage? And what is this lecture on humility to a guy who has been incredibly famous and loved by millions of fans for 35 years and still seems like a pretty cool, laid back guy!!
What I have observed is that the creative community massively lacks basic understanding of physics and neural networks. Their knowledge of AI is very surface level. Moreover, the human arrogance is so f*in irritating. We are doomed.
There is a reason why bollywood never created movies like Matrix, Her, ExMachina, etc.
Exactly bro..... satyajit Ray said the same thing about India public too.....we are extremely medicore people... who can't envision things beyond a certain point.....
frist time in life i found javed kahtar being totally unreasonable.he is underestiamting the power of ai.
Stop talking like an AI 😂😂😅😅
You cannot have a discussion on AI without including an expert who knows the difference between “general” artificial intelligence and specialised intelligence and how to bridge the gap between them. That remains the holy grail of AI. What these people are failing to understand is that the source or process of creativity is not important if its manifestation/end result appears the same.
Shekhar Kapoor is on something.
Awesome ❤
She gives headache. She doesn't leave the door open for discussion or that her opinions can be contradicted with arguments.
What a terrible introduction. of the guests. It was embarrassingly bad. Describing Sonu Nigam as a "Trojan horse" was laughable. People need to look up these definitions before using them.
Shoma is absolutely brilliant.
As brilliant as Javed sahab and Sonu Nigam are, they are too stuck up in their ghamand. You have to embrace technology and use it than to avoid it. Shekhar, Raju and RAhman sir have the best and progressive way of thinking. It's always survival of the fittest. Sonu especially lives a lot in his past
He literally said that we must accept technology and take the good with any negatives! . Were you even listening to what he said??
@@Nina-oi1qk That tirade of when technology started composers started singing, then actors started singing is the ghamand part. Everyone has a right to sing if he/she wants to. Better to keep andh bhakti aside for people before commenting on comments
Are you suffering from Dementia or some other mental disease??
@@Nina-oi1qkMust be a dementia patient
@@rickyproctor6562He said “everybody has right to cherish the art of music even if it’s through autotune.”
Go and get yourself tested, you seem too young to suffer from whatever this is. Or go buy a house next to a mosque to wake up every morning at 4 unwantedly - that’s where this is coming from obviously.
Should have Anand Gandhi here, he knows much about these things.
Yah bro ,you have great taste
Anand is genius
Javed Akhtar is so adamant at some things that he believes is true that he seems ignorant about the entire other aspects of the things he is talking about. AI is not even in it's adolescence and it's doing all this... When humans create, it's just a recycling of our memories.. We're not really creating something new, we're just giving an art to memory.. It's data.. And AI has access to 10000 times more data than us... People who learn to adapt it will get ahead.
Goodness gracious, if there were ever a panel of heavyweights ..........then 'ameisto, ameisto.....ameisth'
Why Shekhar Kapur is looking like a Steven Spielberg...?
Yehi toh mai bhi sochra tha😂
He thinks he is Spielberg ...lol.
AI silently listening this talk, and trying to build no man's land
Javed Akhtar sir is more philosophical but don't have any idea about technology.
Give him a break... He's not supposed to. He is and has been on peak of his world (which has no neural network design engineers in it). He will continue to do his best work for the next 30-50 years at best. AI will affect his lifespan's end era if at all. He is in the perfect position to do what he did on stage and actually he brought out a very good point about Breathless. When Sonu ji replied that AI can now replicate Breathless he could have replied that "Do you want another Breathless? When we created Breathless we were an instance of ourselves which we weren't a year ago than that."
The panelist was so dismissive of what they were saying that it's triggering.
Damn! The more I listen to her, I'm more triggered.
Trivia : Shekhar Kapoor is Shabana azmi's, Javed Akhtar's wife's, ex-lover. 😅
correct!!
Every new thing face similar resistance.
She is constantly interfering with them, bro it's not a verbal combat it's about giving perspective, she sounds may a time rude
Very politely I would like to disagree to the ignorance these maestro showcasing. I understand that performing art is yet to be encroached by AI but apart from that AI is doing a fabulous work.
IRRITATING and INTERRUPTING and UNPREPARED Anchor !..............she just does not understand yet what is AI is ?
She had to push back, because, save for Shekhar Kapur, argued from a place of human exceptionalism, without explaining why emotion and consciousness were exclusively human traits.
It was clear they were here to put forth their views, not to learn and grow, which requires humility.
Comparatively, her discussion with Swami Sarvapriyananda was far more fruitful, since his openness allowed Shoma to really challenge his assertions.
Human "learning" is built on backs of before ....Creativity is distinctly different than learning
Seven billion wounded childhood wouldn't be creative but collective chaotic coverage
Approximation, Cannibalization absence of feeling can at best copy, plagiarise or make a better copy but certainly not create ...
Ma'am, I guess you are confusing creativity with production....While AI can definitely serve as a leveller in creating a platform for creativity for all but as Sonu Nigam rightly said the differentiator will be that...
Approximation and Creativity
agreed
honourable mr javed akhtar please if my question reaches just one question for you 1. the AI technology is made by humans for humans right? so you think people like you who dont rely on AI are absolutely creative but at the same time if that technology is made by human so dont you think those human will also be efficient as you are, to make that technology deal with whatever it lacks now as you say.
😂 bro is there any school who teach how to do poetry??
Technologies for human being how many% humans benefits from it.?
Javed akhtar❤
cool
In terms of AI, the Host is much more knowledgeable than the 4 guests.
Shoma does bring out the worst in Javed Saab. Her constant push and shove brings out the frustrations of a great mind of our times.
I love how Shekhar sir is optimistic about the development of AI and the democracy of the creators.
Mr. Hirani didn't speak much.
Sonu has an actor who should get a show for himself.
he was hilarious.
Javed Spoke more nonsense than anyone in this country 😂, he requires his own show to act 😂
The panel should have been with people who use AI..ye galat chala gaya
btw sonu sir has sung more than 33 languages
I know, but instead of asking the guest for a bio like most decent places, this lady has just looked at Wikipedia.
There is a reason why bollywood never created movies like Matrix, Her or ExMachina. Dumb peeps.
Sora AI: You have no idea in next 10 years kids
The data that makes AI powerful comes from the very experts who may find themselves outperformed by the AI they helped train.
They will never replace humans, bcoz AI needs data to thrive but humans can create an art in a traditional way without AI assistance. One thing is certain that ut will make us dumber😅
This moderator just does not allow anyone to talk. She is definitely not the best of moderators.
Right. She really needs to learn some patience while listening. Her constant disruptive hand gestures are too hyper for a "moderator."
Shoma's questions show that she doesn't quite understand machine learning
Sry to say but Javed Akhtar doesn’t know about layers of Ai :
He is speaking at his level, in this 1 billion people there's only one like him. AI might not affect the likes of him or them on stage but those are probably 1 in a million but for others AI is easily replaceable.
The fear is humans are made into machines, thinking in such binary without spaces of exploration. Poorly structured symposium with respect to same, thinking in binary and not moderating and silent on silence, where critical philosophy emerges.
Single laundon ke liye 50:10
AI don't have discrimination power.. because they don't have consciousness..
HI SIR WE WANT NEW MOVIE LIKE MUNNA BHAI PL FROM WORLD .
AI could be good in certain ways But certainly its nor superior than Human Brain who created it
Ai wlll also use their conversation 😂
AI is more dangerous than a nuclear warhead, period.
JAVED AKHTAR - doesn't believe in his own mind and opinion but Carl Segan and Stephan Hawking did not miss out on a chance to insult Sadhguru by acting like he dint remember his name one of the wisest minds of India, just because Javed cant stand the debate heat and opinions of others especially Sadhguru here. Akhtar must be a great artist but not sure about the kind of human being he is , very rude and unnecessarily dominating.
AI(Artificial Intelligence) is a good secretary, not a boss...
Poetry or other art is incarnation from god....not from Engineer
There was no need for a subject expert in this debate. Nobody’s interested.
AI is not good for real art
The prosperous middle class intellectuals who want to serve the system, “ select” their subjects, philosophize those subjects, which serve the system, making the system stronger ( serving it gives the system an additional strength), and getting more powerful in being more aggressive against what is not wanted by the system, in polytics.
क्या कहना चाहते हो?
@@frostlasso2710 please write, at least, in roman Hindi!
@@kawishabbasi9459 It was a reference to the professor from _3 Idiots_ who couldn't understand what Rancho was saying.
Kya kehna chahte ho?
What are you trying to say?
Do biochemistry and physiology with AI... Lol . JA is correct that we know little of our brain or any other organism. AI is far,far, far in physiology or genomics. Carbohydrates is a mess, lipid is a bigger miss... we know only less than 1 % not 10%. Actually, we dont know what % we know.
The host is insufferable. Let them speak please.
this mediator is irritating
Kamaal hai vaise, ai bnane vale hi ai se darr rahe hain
AI is another new gift to mankind. Remember old guys here can calculate 25x25. Ask your son he would use calculator of his mobile. Let me assure you I will be quicker. I can solve with simple creative function out of my mind. AI is another new tool that will take away your calculator too.
Lazy smart guys will enjoy this AI but I can smell is this is real or AI created.
The question is about generative AI.
Very misplaced conference indeed.
What do you mean?