Three & 1/2 memorable moments: THE crash, just crazy! Especially the fact that Maciejuk managed to stay upright when he brought down half the field from the bog on the right! When Pogacar attacked and left MvdP behind, and, I have to admit, I did laugh at that guy crushing the picnic table when Pogacar attacked too. It just stood out at the time...wondering if that really did just happen. Perfect timing by the heli-cam! Did miss the woman taking the opportunity to jump into the portaloo though when all that was happening. When ya gotta go... Good opportunity, as I guess there were no line ups at that critical stage!
My favorite moment: sips of a strong tripel every time Dan Lloyd says "there or thereabouts." Can't remember who won the race, but I'm pretty sure I lost...
The thing about Pogacar is he’s just such a joy to watch it's infectious, he doesn't seem to have any negative attitude about him. Can't wait for the TDF
@@woutkoopman Remember when he rock-paper-scissored the win out with Majka? And don‘t get me wrong, I‘m not judging. I just think mentality wise she is closer to Mercx that the whole men‘s peloton.
I wish Dan had been able to continue as the Main Announcer for the Ronde; he was doing great and as soon as he left Kirby started in with the "clever" 🙄 word-play, plus telling us what he had for breakfast.
By Pogačar's Age, Merckx had already tested positive for the first of several other times throughout his career. Why do we keep making these comparisons? Why are his records still relevant? Why does everyone just brushes his cheating under the rug? Isnt it pretty hypocritical?
Because everyone else in the peleton was doped to the gills too. Scrapping Merckx's records and giving them to the next substance abuser in line is not a solution. It's still stupid to compare. Because there was less competition and hardly any specialized riders, not because Merckx was doped.
unlike pog, merckx never doped. it would be more fitting if they compared pog to armstrong. also, pog wouldn't even be able to hang on to the peleton using stuff merckx took... so i dn't see ur point.
@@Tibovl and what they did to Lance? He never even tested positive. Anyone who wins any bike races is doping. It’s probably just being done through gene editing rather than with EPO nowadays.
Dam blocking the road is a cheap tactic. As long as it’s allowed in the rules I guess why not. It would be hard to police a rule saying you’re blocking the road. They could just say that’s as fast as we can go on the climb cuz we weak 😂
Mistakes and crashes. Why did MVDP get stuck at the back? Why did he attack Pogi? Should have stayed on his wheel and sprinted for the win. The crash did have an effect on the finish. Look at the blood running down his knee at the finish. Why did it take the DS of TJV so long to send back a teammate for WVA? Whilst, Pogi is very good, Merckx was and is still the best. Just have a look at his records.
DQ is the right decision here. It should be for reckless riding that endangers other riders and negatively impacts the entire race. If he hadn't crashed everyone, could have justifiably been penalized for trying to advance by going out of bounds
The dude who caused the crash could have avoided it. If he had just braked and slowed himself or just stopped instead if trying to correct it would have avoided the swerve. In his case the DQ is perfectly just. Had he been on the road and hit an obstacle or had a mechanical that cause it that's a different story but this is on him
Whichever way they spin it... the DSM move was just crap. They were so weak they played absolutely no part in the race. I would be embarrassed for that move if I was part of the team
The best riders in the current Peleton are all on juice! Lol, bahahaha. Why are there so many haters and those who think that superhuman efforts aren't possible. Dnt paint them with the same brush as Armstrong!!
I would advise all who think Pogi is the next Merckx, to look at Merckx's list of records. In 72' and 73' Merckx won 4 grand tours. Pogi only does one grand tour per year. Pogi has never done the Giro. Pogi did the Vuelta once in 2019. Merckx won 11 grand tours. Pogi's best result at attending four World Road Championships is 18th. Apples to oranges.
Oh No! Not the NCL again. They tried the crit format in the nineties and it was a joke. The "teams" competing on the day I saw them were made up of all local riders - not exactly an intercity or inter-regional competition. I hate to say it, but as much as I love cycling in all it's disciplines, in the U.S., it is, and will remain so, a backwater sport. The NCL is yet another feeble attempt to garner popularity in a fully saturated North American sports market. Well, good luck to them.
MVDP rode like MVDP…and at least he attacked and contributed and even though it was obvs he couldn’t win he never stopped trying until he crossed the line. I’m not sure if he’d burnt no matches he could have stayed with POG. WVA - peaked too early - and looked vulnerable in E3. Pog just incredible. UCI usual hopeless reactive garbage. They pretend there’s a rule, never enforce it so riders ignore it, oops- there’s a crash - so now the rule exists. Too much time on sock length - not enough on looking at how racing is changing and what worked in the 50’s will not translate to the modern era unless you want careers ruined. The riders are the sport- look after them.
I seriously loved this recap and analysis. So good and for me very educational. The video tech is incredible and used to perfection. Looking forward to the Paris-Roubaix recap.
So with regards to disqualification for going off road. Don’t you think if the rule is automatic disqualification then you will have more serious crashes as riders will do everything to stay on the road instead of taking the best chance of outcome by going off road ? But on the flip side if someone does go off-road and affect the race is that really fair. Flip side if that flip side is that racing isn’t fair and you have on road crash that affect results. So I think off road should be fair and unless a rider has a deliberate agressive move it should be fair game. C’est la vie.
I think when it comes to punishing riders it has to be situational cause there are so many factors at play. What if the rider had a blown tire and caused a similar crash? What if the road has a hole in it and he crashes, etc. etc. In this case he was clearly at fault for riding where there was no road, but if there would've been a road or a path of sorts he wouldn't have had the crash. I'm assuming riders couldn't possibly know the parkours that detailed that they could be doing this on purpose.
I don't get at all why the DSM ambush is so controversial. It's tactics, if you wanna dictate the pace be at the front. If you don't wanna be caught off guard be at the front. It's no different than riders pulling off intentionally to break the elastic on climbs and echelons. I never understood why this isn't done more often, even in TDF stages, if you have a strong man in the breakaway you should be trying to slow down the bunch. From what I gather, most of the pros are just congratulating DSM, it's the critics and pundits who are making a fuss out of this
Well in fact this tactic (maybe in another level) is common also in grand tours and other competitions. Big teams tend to block the road to not let any dangerous rider go to a breakaway for example. Jumbo tends to block the peloton very often
Good analysis and update on injuries, although I am unsure how Dan could determine that Wout's gouged knee (or any other injuries he had from the crash) did _NOT_ make a critical difference in his ability to respond - ? 🤔
I agree that it likely played a role, though Wout did say in an interview that he didn't really have any problems with his knee during the race. It's not because you don't feel pain from an injury, that it isn't keeping you back.
Hi from Slovenija,coz we are not greedy,we only win wean racing🏆🏆🏆🥇🥇🥇 We gift the Basque race to the peleton😇You see we nice🤗 Rogla - Pogi and Matej, say hi to all😉
GCN director, (on the race breakdown and illustration part) I think it would be better to have a closer shot maybe a half-body of the host so that the TV screen is much closer. Showing the brick stand of the TV set and the brick studio wall is a waste of screen space. The fullscreen snippets are greatly appreciated. It's just me as an ordinary viewer, maybe you have your own standards. Still great work overall! The race was wow, Pogi is really on another stratosphere, glad to witness this in our lifetime.
Couldn't watch yesterday, and with limited time today so came to GCN for the highlights... May I politely suggest not putting the names of the winners in the title of videos? Especially those sitting directly above the highlights! 😣
Maciejuk makes a bad call and accidentally makes people crash, and gets disqualified. Team DSM deliberately put riders in danger, and get commended for their unsportsmanlike behaviour.
As someone new to watching this sport, I so appreciate this detailed analysis. I also liked the grace notes of a couple non-winning but still interesting moments, e.g. Noemi Rüegg's fight to stay upright after her rear tire puncture. As a newbie watching the race, however, I was wondering why no mention of Elisa Longo Borghini 's performance coming back from COVID? It seemed like she kept having to come back from behind and then ended up on the podium! (Would I have been less impressed if I already understood the ups and downs of bike racing better? I dunno. I thought she was amazing!)
Great work Dan, love this vid. Reminds me of the excellent videos Cosmo Catalano used to produce- his were punchier and snarky, always capturing the spirit of the race plus key moments (not just attacks but faint blocks, or letting a wheel go...). GCN takes a similar approach and I'm grateful for it.
Maybe I'm wrong, but from what I've seen of MVDP in the Tour de France and in this he isn't the most team focused rider. He seems to think he can run his domestiques to death and rely on his strength to pick up any gaps. Wout Van Art on the other hand showed last TDF that he is an absolute beast and is willing to throw a team onto his back to keep his team captain in the race.
Please ask Sean Kelly about his signature wood outsole Puma shoes. Had a set they were stiff as fuck compared to other brands at the time. I used mine for track racing 🤪.
Seems to me you are ready for the Easter celebrations, pushing pedals and turning back to life again, get in action and bring cycling partnerships world wide, only sports competitions are our salvation fans, never stop believe in
0:29 Ellen van Dijk would tell you that's the pot calling the kettle black - she said in a recent interview that Cille is notorious in the women's peloton for not taking enough turns in a breakaway!
i feel like this was in all likelihood an unintentional act yesterday by Filip Maciejuk but i can see how if there was no rule at all against sprinting to the front then swinging directly across at high speed into the head of the bunch then some teams might actually end up begin to hire enforcer goons who even might suit up with more protective gear and just start to do it on purpose in order to help out their teams by eliminating some of the other favorites, kinda like they do in roller derby or Hockey....i always remember in the movie slapshot when the Hanson brothers were prepping for the game by putting on the foil ! th-cam.com/video/xgL2d5kTepQ/w-d-xo.html
The team DSM jam, has cost a lots of watts to some favourites, and teams especially due to the 40km chase following this perfidious strategy. The fall of Girmaye and Moho etc happens at the end of the long hectic chase. Laporte, WVA and yumbos, VDP and teammates, all burning matches as caught behind of this mid race play, from the beginning it felt like VDP had a bigger target on his back then Pogacar, who everybody knew he was still frustrated about his missed sprint last time. Since no DSM is to be seen at the end, and the chase did not affect Pogi that much, one has to ask, is DSM sports director taking credit for the UAD win of the day ? Without any discipline of these unsportsmanlike play, It would not be suprising that this contributes to feud in the futur fights for position, and road rage tentions in the directors cars. The crashes that where consecutive to that hectic chase, the futur tentions in the peleton and the staffs, this kind of trickery is not a good thing for the sport. It’s now back in the playbook of the youg athletes the new audience and competitve week end racers and the pro scene. The great Dan Loyd should admit it, even if DSM shares a bond to his former cervelo palmarès, this arguable strategy is straight out from a cheaters guide. Sorry, Dan, respect for all the great analysis, but I think you missed this crutial one. You are not alone, a lot of analysts are still napping on that mid race crutial difference, that probably made the difference between Pogacar and VDP in the end, and that probably cost Laporte and Wout a few matches, not even talking of the rest of the field, the peleton is not divided on this particular event, they all suffered and DSM didn’t gain anything from it. If not bad reputation, especially for his DS. What’s next, lucha libre technics of throwing dust in the eyes and pinching nipples?
Terrific race, multiple races in the race, what a show, great the organizers finally made this race accessibles few years back (untangling the confidencial maze the end course use to be) Sorry for the strong opinion, this is a great period for cycling, races will be full of these and media wont show it all. Respect, peace, enjoy.
Wiggins wins one Tour and everyone flies in with questions about a dodgy brown bag. Pog dominates all kinds of races on all types of terrain and nobody’s allowed to bat an eyelid. But hey, I guess he’s never tested positive. He clearly has strong arms…
@@Tibovl never a good look when you throw in an insult 🙄. Perhaps grow up and contribute to some kind of debate away from the playground. You must be new to cycling. We've been here so many times before when there was 'no evidence'.
@@nickjohnson710 oh, the old 'just enjoy the cycling' comment, wondered how long it would take for that to come up. I was 'enjoying' the cycling during the 1990s and 2000s too when there were similar remarkable performances. Pog supporters seem to have incredibly short memories or are part of a 'don't challenge in case it upsets someone' generation.
Same goes for Wout. He won 3 different stages in 2021 TdF and dropped Pogačar last year on a climb weighing 15 kilos more and he isnt even a climber. Am i missing something.
True, but I think Dan and the judges would let that kind of thing pass. He's right that it was _purely the resulting major crash_ that led to the DQ. So if the judges think that "moving up" maneuver was disqualifying, then similarly motivated maneuvers that don't cause crashes should also lead to a DQ. (Of course, this leads to the question: If a rider throws an elbow, or a head _a-la-Cavendish,_ at another rider and misses completely - is that disqualifying?)
Yeah. Sure. First, "they" tried to get Bini by taking out 50% of the Peloton, desperate as they are to stop his Super-Human Eritrean Efforts. 🙄Then they slowed EVERYBODY on the climb _just to get Bini,_ who doesn't know how to go slow, right?
I strongly disagree about your take on dq rules for going outside the road. The question is quite complex, and should be treated as such. Let me elaborate: 1. Sometimes getting off the road is a way to prevent crashes, successfully or not. 2. Sometimes it is inadvertent. 3. Sometimes trying to gain an advantage by going off the road is safe (basically as safe as staying on the road). 4. Sometimes it is dangerous and nothing happens. 5. Sometimes it is dangerous and something happens. No sane person would punish people in category 1, and most would not want to punish people in group 2. (You could make an argument for punishing it, since avoiding getting yourself in a situation where you might get off the road is your responsibility.) There is an obvious difference between 3 and 4-5. In most legal systems, there is a difference between 4 and 5. If you drive recklessly without injury, your punishment will be lower, than if you hurt someone. Whether this should be the case is up for debate. You will come to different conclusions depending on what system of ethics you use, and both positions are valid. (Yes, I have studied moral philosophy) It is also about the _level_ of danger. Risk of crash and danger of potential crash. Here we have high speed (high danger in case of crash), many riders (more danger for more cyclists) and a medium risk of causing something. That means we should have a fairly harsh punishment. If you want to make the sentence more harsh because of the fact that is caused by the crash. I would also like to add 6. You can be off the designated road willingly without the intent of gaining an advantage, for instance to talk to someone. --- My opinion: There should be no difference between this rule and the other rules concerning endangerment and cheating, than with other phenomena. Are you trying to gain an advantage by bending the rules? Treat it like sticky bottles. Are you doing dangerous maneouvers? Treat it like line deviations in sprints.
Just write whatever comment you want. Don't answer a silly or random question pinned at the top. They read that it's such a great idea to pin their own comment and have been doing that religiously ever since.
You must be new here. If you think this is nutty, just wait until next week when they ride through the trench. I did it last year in the Challenge and it was the craziest thing I’ve ever done. Every second of it was pure joy.
Well mate, asphalt hasn't existed forever, cycling in its begining was about riding the road whatever the surface was (sand and gravel in its majority) in Belgium there were cobbles that add a difficulty so why not?
I suggest that you guys create GCN Racing Women, for those that are interested. Keep in mind that parts of the videos not being watched and some videos getting lower number of views is affecting the entire channel and the YT algorithm.
I'm not a fan of women's racing, entirely my personal choice and absolutely nobody has a right to force someone to enjoy something just because they do. But I'm also conscious that many are and that the app and GCN is about bike racing whether it be men or women or juniors, or road or cross or track
@@tasty_fish I don't know whether you've noticed, but there's already over 20 GCN channels, maybe even close to 30. GCN Racing Women makes more sense than most of them.
What was your moment of the 2023 Tour of Flanders? Let us know 👇
seeing Pogacar torture WVA and MVDP on every climb he did at, because he did it at the terrain where MVDP and WVA are specialists at.
Three & 1/2 memorable moments: THE crash, just crazy! Especially the fact that Maciejuk managed to stay upright when he brought down half the field from the bog on the right! When Pogacar attacked and left MvdP behind, and, I have to admit, I did laugh at that guy crushing the picnic table when Pogacar attacked too. It just stood out at the time...wondering if that really did just happen. Perfect timing by the heli-cam! Did miss the woman taking the opportunity to jump into the portaloo though when all that was happening. When ya gotta go... Good opportunity, as I guess there were no line ups at that critical stage!
i missed my moment since watching women's race made me fall asleep.
My favorite moment: sips of a strong tripel every time Dan Lloyd says "there or thereabouts." Can't remember who won the race, but I'm pretty sure I lost...
Mads Pedersens ride overall, he really deserved the top 3 finish! What a performance!
The thing about Pogacar is he’s just such a joy to watch it's infectious, he doesn't seem to have any negative attitude about him. Can't wait for the TDF
kinda like lance armstrong.
@@sudsehun76 Sure hope not.
@@sudsehun76 not at all, armstrong was a complete KUNT...
Accurate 👍
I would be very positive too if I'm making million by riding bike
The true canibal is Kopecky. She doesn‘t care s**t even for her teammates.
Very true.
But then Tadej has never had that problem, his teammates are nowhere near him at the end of stages.
@@woutkoopman Remember when he rock-paper-scissored the win out with Majka? And don‘t get me wrong, I‘m not judging. I just think mentality wise she is closer to Mercx that the whole men‘s peloton.
I wish Dan had been able to continue as the Main Announcer for the Ronde; he was doing great and as soon as he left Kirby started in with the "clever" 🙄 word-play, plus telling us what he had for breakfast.
Kirby is the reason i learned french!
Kirby is a pink fluffy Nintendo character.
@@vinniamsterdam700 😂
Dan’s analysis is so good, that I wonder if I even needed to watch the race😅
Indeed!
This is what we want. Detailed analysis of one of the most interesting races in the year. Thank you GCN those 5min reviews do not do anything for me.
I wouldn't miss Dan's racing news for anything in the world. Simply brilliant, as always.
By Pogačar's Age, Merckx had already tested positive for the first of several other times throughout his career. Why do we keep making these comparisons? Why are his records still relevant? Why does everyone just brushes his cheating under the rug? Isnt it pretty hypocritical?
Because everyone else in the peleton was doped to the gills too. Scrapping Merckx's records and giving them to the next substance abuser in line is not a solution.
It's still stupid to compare. Because there was less competition and hardly any specialized riders, not because Merckx was doped.
Yeah, commentators don't tell it as it is. But don't get me wrong Merckx was fantastic, well . . . mostly.
What makes you think these new gods aren't doped to shit? They're just better at finding the things that are legal or impossible to find.
unlike pog, merckx never doped. it would be more fitting if they compared pog to armstrong. also, pog wouldn't even be able to hang on to the peleton using stuff merckx took... so i dn't see ur point.
@@Tibovl and what they did to Lance? He never even tested positive. Anyone who wins any bike races is doping. It’s probably just being done through gene editing rather than with EPO nowadays.
❤️ Pogi. Absolute legend. The only real character in the peloton bringing some much needed personality to professional road cycling.
💉
Maciejuk had a Simpsons moment there. But then it is the tour of Flanders.
Dam blocking the road is a cheap tactic. As long as it’s allowed in the rules I guess why not. It would be hard to police a rule saying you’re blocking the road. They could just say that’s as fast as we can go on the climb cuz we weak 😂
There should be rules that require leaving a gap to be overtaken. Similar to how you can't block all lanes on a highway by going the same speed.
Pog crazy
Mistakes and crashes. Why did MVDP get stuck at the back? Why did he attack Pogi? Should have stayed on his wheel and sprinted for the win. The crash did have an effect on the finish. Look at the blood running down his knee at the finish. Why did it take the DS of TJV so long to send back a teammate for WVA? Whilst, Pogi is very good, Merckx was and is still the best. Just have a look at his records.
DQ is the right decision here. It should be for reckless riding that endangers other riders and negatively impacts the entire race. If he hadn't crashed everyone, could have justifiably been penalized for trying to advance by going out of bounds
How did Pod win without his hair sticking out of his helmet?
The dude who caused the crash could have avoided it. If he had just braked and slowed himself or just stopped instead if trying to correct it would have avoided the swerve. In his case the DQ is perfectly just. Had he been on the road and hit an obstacle or had a mechanical that cause it that's a different story but this is on him
Whichever way they spin it... the DSM move was just crap. They were so weak they played absolutely no part in the race. I would be embarrassed for that move if I was part of the team
i find it just unsportmanship, but that's just my opinion.
Thanks Dan. Flanders was phenomenal as ever and roll on Roubaix now this weekend. A cracking documentary with the King. What a rider and bloke!
Glad to know that Dan was able to survive riding with King Kelly without injuring himself again. 😅
MVDP has won this race twice already. Can’t win it all.
The best riders in the current Peleton are all on juice! Lol, bahahaha. Why are there so many haters and those who think that superhuman efforts aren't possible. Dnt paint them with the same brush as Armstrong!!
It would have been nice to see this on GCN+ in the USA. And the next one mentioned, Liège-Bastogne-Liège, isn't playing in the USA either. :(
No unfortunately not. NBC have an exclusive deal with ASO to show most of their big races in the USA. Dan
Fantastic recap of the women's race! Thanks!
I would advise all who think Pogi is the next Merckx, to look at Merckx's list of records. In 72' and 73' Merckx won 4 grand tours. Pogi only does one grand tour per year. Pogi has never done the Giro. Pogi did the Vuelta once in 2019. Merckx won 11 grand tours. Pogi's best result at attending four World Road Championships is 18th. Apples to oranges.
Oh No! Not the NCL again. They tried the crit format in the nineties and it was a joke. The "teams" competing on the day I saw them were made up of all local riders - not exactly an intercity or inter-regional competition.
I hate to say it, but as much as I love cycling in all it's disciplines, in the U.S., it is, and will remain so, a backwater sport. The NCL is yet another feeble attempt to garner popularity in a fully saturated North American sports market. Well, good luck to them.
MVDP rode like MVDP…and at least he attacked and contributed and even though it was obvs he couldn’t win he never stopped trying until he crossed the line. I’m not sure if he’d burnt no matches he could have stayed with POG. WVA - peaked too early - and looked vulnerable in E3. Pog just incredible. UCI usual hopeless reactive garbage. They pretend there’s a rule, never enforce it so riders ignore it, oops- there’s a crash - so now the rule exists. Too much time on sock length - not enough on looking at how racing is changing and what worked in the 50’s will not translate to the modern era unless you want careers ruined. The riders are the sport- look after them.
I seriously loved this recap and analysis. So good and for me very educational. The video tech is incredible and used to perfection. Looking forward to the Paris-Roubaix recap.
Pretty impressive to see van der Poel with two firsts, two seconds, and a fourth in the last 5 years at the Ronde. That's consistency.
thanks for telling us in the poster who won...grrr. why not put, WINNERS OF FLANDERS!
Did you see the motorcycle that gave Van der Poel slipstream? For Jens Voigt and Bernhard Eisel this was scandalous.
Yep.
Massive clown move by DSM they should all be DQd. Not even for endangering others just for being annoying
TeamDSM should be penalized for that boycoting action
So with regards to disqualification for going off road. Don’t you think if the rule is automatic disqualification then you will have more serious crashes as riders will do everything to stay on the road instead of taking the best chance of outcome by going off road ?
But on the flip side if someone does go off-road and affect the race is that really fair. Flip side if that flip side is that racing isn’t fair and you have on road crash that affect results.
So I think off road should be fair and unless a rider has a deliberate agressive move it should be fair game. C’est la vie.
I think when it comes to punishing riders it has to be situational cause there are so many factors at play. What if the rider had a blown tire and caused a similar crash? What if the road has a hole in it and he crashes, etc. etc. In this case he was clearly at fault for riding where there was no road, but if there would've been a road or a path of sorts he wouldn't have had the crash. I'm assuming riders couldn't possibly know the parkours that detailed that they could be doing this on purpose.
If they DQ the guy in the men's race, they should do the same for van Vleuten causing others to crash.
Terbaik lah Poggy dan Kopecky
I really like this type of post race analysis. Can we please have more like it? Great job Dan!
TH-cam CC said Machu Thunderpool, Without Fan Arts, and Pikachu did well.
LMAO
Excellent review of both Flanders races thanks
I don't get at all why the DSM ambush is so controversial.
It's tactics, if you wanna dictate the pace be at the front. If you don't wanna be caught off guard be at the front. It's no different than riders pulling off intentionally to break the elastic on climbs and echelons.
I never understood why this isn't done more often, even in TDF stages, if you have a strong man in the breakaway you should be trying to slow down the bunch.
From what I gather, most of the pros are just congratulating DSM, it's the critics and pundits who are making a fuss out of this
Well in fact this tactic (maybe in another level) is common also in grand tours and other competitions. Big teams tend to block the road to not let any dangerous rider go to a breakaway for example. Jumbo tends to block the peloton very often
Good analysis and update on injuries, although I am unsure how Dan could determine that Wout's gouged knee (or any other injuries he had from the crash) did _NOT_ make a critical difference in his ability to respond - ? 🤔
I agree that it likely played a role, though Wout did say in an interview that he didn't really have any problems with his knee during the race. It's not because you don't feel pain from an injury, that it isn't keeping you back.
@@Tibovl Good points. If that interview was what Dan based his "I didn't think it mattered" opinion on, he should have said so.
Dan's analysis of Flanders is second to none. Looking forward to his summary of Paris Roubaix. I'm going with MVP.
Hi from Slovenija,coz we are not greedy,we only win wean racing🏆🏆🏆🥇🥇🥇
We gift the Basque race to the peleton😇You see we nice🤗 Rogla - Pogi and Matej, say hi to all😉
GCN director, (on the race breakdown and illustration part) I think it would be better to have a closer shot maybe a half-body of the host so that the TV screen is much closer. Showing the brick stand of the TV set and the brick studio wall is a waste of screen space. The fullscreen snippets are greatly appreciated. It's just me as an ordinary viewer, maybe you have your own standards. Still great work overall! The race was wow, Pogi is really on another stratosphere, glad to witness this in our lifetime.
Couldn't watch yesterday, and with limited time today so came to GCN for the highlights... May I politely suggest not putting the names of the winners in the title of videos? Especially those sitting directly above the highlights! 😣
I was fortunate to see it live, but I was surprised to see this title emblazoned on the racing page on GCN, where you go to see the replay/highlights
When Pog puts on an aero helmet the peloton should worry
Maciejuk makes a bad call and accidentally makes people crash, and gets disqualified.
Team DSM deliberately put riders in danger, and get commended for their unsportsmanlike behaviour.
As someone new to watching this sport, I so appreciate this detailed analysis. I also liked the grace notes of a couple non-winning but still interesting moments, e.g. Noemi Rüegg's fight to stay upright after her rear tire puncture. As a newbie watching the race, however, I was wondering why no mention of Elisa Longo Borghini 's performance coming back from COVID? It seemed like she kept having to come back from behind and then ended up on the podium! (Would I have been less impressed if I already understood the ups and downs of bike racing better? I dunno. I thought she was amazing!)
Great work Dan, love this vid. Reminds me of the excellent videos Cosmo Catalano used to produce- his were punchier and snarky, always capturing the spirit of the race plus key moments
(not just attacks but faint blocks, or letting a wheel go...). GCN takes a similar approach and I'm grateful for it.
Spoiler alert! WTF GCN!
1:13 we've all known that for long...
I would like to see Merkx do what Pogacar has done in 2023. To be fair both Remco and Pogacar are on a different level to Merkx.
Maybe I'm wrong, but from what I've seen of MVDP in the Tour de France and in this he isn't the most team focused rider. He seems to think he can run his domestiques to death and rely on his strength to pick up any gaps. Wout Van Art on the other hand showed last TDF that he is an absolute beast and is willing to throw a team onto his back to keep his team captain in the race.
Please ask Sean Kelly about his signature wood outsole Puma shoes. Had a set they were stiff as fuck compared to other brands at the time. I used mine for track racing 🤪.
PUT THE RACE VIDEO ON FULL SCEEN FFS
Seems to me you are ready for the Easter celebrations, pushing pedals and turning back to life again, get in action and bring cycling partnerships world wide, only sports competitions are our salvation fans, never stop believe in
0:29 Ellen van Dijk would tell you that's the pot calling the kettle black - she said in a recent interview that Cille is notorious in the women's peloton for not taking enough turns in a breakaway!
i feel like this was in all likelihood an unintentional act yesterday by Filip Maciejuk but i can see how if there was no rule at all against sprinting to the front then swinging directly across at high speed into the head of the bunch then some teams might actually end up begin to hire enforcer goons who even might suit up with more protective gear and just start to do it on purpose in order to help out their teams by eliminating some of the other favorites, kinda like they do in roller derby or Hockey....i always remember in the movie slapshot when the Hanson brothers were prepping for the game by putting on the foil ! th-cam.com/video/xgL2d5kTepQ/w-d-xo.html
God I miss Cosmo...
Men’s Tour of Flanders is always awesome . Best athletes in the world!
you can always count on DSM to have the most annoying tactics, their DS must be such an terrible person
dan!
How much does the Bahrain rider wish he had just hit the brakes when he was off the road.....
The team DSM jam, has cost a lots of watts to some favourites, and teams especially due to the 40km chase following this perfidious strategy.
The fall of Girmaye and Moho etc happens at the end of the long hectic chase.
Laporte, WVA and yumbos, VDP and teammates, all burning matches as caught behind of this mid race play, from the beginning it felt like VDP had a bigger target on his back then Pogacar, who everybody knew he was still frustrated about his missed sprint last time.
Since no DSM is to be seen at the end, and the chase did not affect Pogi that much, one has to ask, is DSM sports director taking credit for the UAD win of the day ?
Without any discipline of these unsportsmanlike play, It would not be suprising that this contributes to feud in the futur fights for position, and road rage tentions in the directors cars.
The crashes that where consecutive to that hectic chase, the futur tentions in the peleton and the staffs, this kind of trickery is not a good thing for the sport. It’s now back in the playbook of the youg athletes the new audience and competitve week end racers and the pro scene.
The great Dan Loyd should admit it, even if DSM shares a bond to his former cervelo palmarès, this arguable strategy is straight out from a cheaters guide.
Sorry, Dan, respect for all the great analysis, but I think you missed this crutial one.
You are not alone, a lot of analysts are still napping on that mid race crutial difference, that probably made the difference between Pogacar and VDP in the end, and that probably cost Laporte and Wout a few matches, not even talking of the rest of the field, the peleton is not divided on this particular event, they all suffered and DSM didn’t gain anything from it. If not bad reputation, especially for his DS.
What’s next, lucha libre technics of throwing dust in the eyes and pinching nipples?
Terrific race, multiple races in the race, what a show, great the organizers finally made this race accessibles few years back (untangling the confidencial maze the end course use to be)
Sorry for the strong opinion, this is a great period for cycling, races will be full of these and media wont show it all.
Respect, peace, enjoy.
Thank you from Truckee California
What software are you using for your touch screen?
Wiggins wins one Tour and everyone flies in with questions about a dodgy brown bag. Pog dominates all kinds of races on all types of terrain and nobody’s allowed to bat an eyelid. But hey, I guess he’s never tested positive. He clearly has strong arms…
Only morons that can't cope with their favourite losing accuse riders of being doped without evidence.
Don't you understand if riders are still doping, the UCI are in on it.......or just enjoy the racing and Don't think about!😅
@@Tibovl never a good look when you throw in an insult 🙄. Perhaps grow up and contribute to some kind of debate away from the playground. You must be new to cycling. We've been here so many times before when there was 'no evidence'.
@@nickjohnson710 oh, the old 'just enjoy the cycling' comment, wondered how long it would take for that to come up. I was 'enjoying' the cycling during the 1990s and 2000s too when there were similar remarkable performances. Pog supporters seem to have incredibly short memories or are part of a 'don't challenge in case it upsets someone' generation.
Same goes for Wout. He won 3 different stages in 2021 TdF and dropped Pogačar last year on a climb weighing 15 kilos more and he isnt even a climber. Am i missing something.
Great presentation, Dan. Thank you!
Comparing Pog to confessed doper Merckx........ interesting.
exactly, I mean..
Massive abuse of winstrol ?😂
Pog's pharmacalogical game is head and shoulders over everyone else's.
I can tell you GCN guys favour van Der Poel, yeah I get it, he is pretty fantastic but Power to weight Pogacar's got it, enuf said.
Why do you think they favour MvdP?
IDK...they seem pretty high on Pog most of the time. MvdP has won the race twice, so he deserves _"a little"_ attention.
super analysis! you guys are all over it
Merckx 💊💊💊💊💊💊💊
Could not find it on the GCN+ app. Was it geo-location blocked? Any other source to watch the full race in the US?
Is that a typo? Because it's GCN. Lose the plus too! Hope that helps.
@@JackWsChannel GCN+ is their fee-based streaming service to watch live races.
Only on Flo bikes unfortunately
T 'as le look coco..
I don't agree with Dan on the disqualification because sometimes they use the side of the road to prevent or escape some crashes
True, but I think Dan and the judges would let that kind of thing pass. He's right that it was _purely the resulting major crash_ that led to the DQ. So if the judges think that "moving up" maneuver was disqualifying, then similarly motivated maneuvers that don't cause crashes should also lead to a DQ.
(Of course, this leads to the question: If a rider throws an elbow, or a head _a-la-Cavendish,_ at another rider and misses completely - is that disqualifying?)
Did you say in men's racing ???
Yes, unheard of in men’s racing. Then he transitioned to tell that Kopecky is 3/5 which is a higher win rate.
Well, tadje is doping.
For Bini they make him to fall in purpose 😮
Yeah. Sure. First, "they" tried to get Bini by taking out 50% of the Peloton, desperate as they are to stop his Super-Human Eritrean Efforts. 🙄Then they slowed EVERYBODY on the climb _just to get Bini,_ who doesn't know how to go slow, right?
I strongly disagree about your take on dq rules for going outside the road. The question is quite complex, and should be treated as such.
Let me elaborate:
1. Sometimes getting off the road is a way to prevent crashes, successfully or not.
2. Sometimes it is inadvertent.
3. Sometimes trying to gain an advantage by going off the road is safe (basically as safe as staying on the road).
4. Sometimes it is dangerous and nothing happens.
5. Sometimes it is dangerous and something happens.
No sane person would punish people in category 1, and most would not want to punish people in group 2. (You could make an argument for punishing it, since avoiding getting yourself in a situation where you might get off the road is your responsibility.)
There is an obvious difference between 3 and 4-5.
In most legal systems, there is a difference between 4 and 5. If you drive recklessly without injury, your punishment will be lower, than if you hurt someone. Whether this should be the case is up for debate. You will come to different conclusions depending on what system of ethics you use, and both positions are valid. (Yes, I have studied moral philosophy)
It is also about the _level_ of danger. Risk of crash and danger of potential crash.
Here we have high speed (high danger in case of crash), many riders (more danger for more cyclists) and a medium risk of causing something. That means we should have a fairly harsh punishment. If you want to make the sentence more harsh because of the fact that is caused by the crash.
I would also like to add
6. You can be off the designated road willingly without the intent of gaining an advantage, for instance to talk to someone.
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My opinion:
There should be no difference between this rule and the other rules concerning endangerment and cheating, than with other phenomena.
Are you trying to gain an advantage by bending the rules? Treat it like sticky bottles.
Are you doing dangerous maneouvers? Treat it like line deviations in sprints.
POG is obviously a talented rider but he looks like 12 year old boy off to shop to get some lollies, he doesn’t have the class of MVP or WVA.
Kopecky won half a Flanders! Why is the women’s course so short?
Merckx never won a monument. The idea of The Monuments wasn't a thing yet. They were prestigious races, but they were still just Classics at the time.
Just write whatever comment you want. Don't answer a silly or random question pinned at the top. They read that it's such a great idea to pin their own comment and have been doing that religiously ever since.
Isn't it the first time Tadej wins a one-day race with both Vout and Mathieu in the peloton? He is a wonderboy
How did they win? By going faster than the others
Pogačar = human grade epo evident
IF THAT'S THE CASE, THE UCI ARE IN ON IT! 👀
Aren't they all epo evident? Name any sport - except curling perhaps, whose participants don't use PED's. Sadly, it's the name of the game.
When Filip Maciejuk decided to fuck everyone up!
Ya he can tell his grandkids he crashed multiple world champions out at Flanders.
Pog racing up the Quartemount
With all due respect with cycling and the sport, this race is stupid, kind of like all races....but cobbles, on a road bike, really?
You must be new here. If you think this is nutty, just wait until next week when they ride through the trench. I did it last year in the Challenge and it was the craziest thing I’ve ever done. Every second of it was pure joy.
You're gonna sh1t yourself next weekend.
Well mate, asphalt hasn't existed forever, cycling in its begining was about riding the road whatever the surface was (sand and gravel in its majority) in Belgium there were cobbles that add a difficulty so why not?
I suggest that you guys create GCN Racing Women, for those that are interested. Keep in mind that parts of the videos not being watched and some videos getting lower number of views is affecting the entire channel and the YT algorithm.
I'm not a fan of women's racing, entirely my personal choice and absolutely nobody has a right to force someone to enjoy something just because they do. But I'm also conscious that many are and that the app and GCN is about bike racing whether it be men or women or juniors, or road or cross or track
@@tasty_fish I don't know whether you've noticed, but there's already over 20 GCN channels, maybe even close to 30. GCN Racing Women makes more sense than most of them.