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  • @gcnracing
    @gcnracing  หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    What was your reaction to Pogačar's attack and win?! 🤯 Let us know in the comments below! 👇

    • @Alex-gl2dw
      @Alex-gl2dw หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      D o p e. When even other top pros are saying he's not normal you know somebody's cooking.

    • @nktimelapse
      @nktimelapse หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Next year he is going to try to win from kom 0

    • @FiniteResources7734
      @FiniteResources7734 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Not shocked. He’s producing so called “clean” numbers higher than all of cycling’s greats, many of whom have admitted or been caught doping. We may never know the truth.

    • @monsiogabar525
      @monsiogabar525 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      As a Pogačar fan, I was really shocked to see him attack from so far out (like everyone else, I guess) but props to him for taking advantage of Remco and MVDP being out of position. During the final lap, I watched nervously as I saw the gap tumbling down but when he reached the final descent, I knew he more or less had the rainbow jersey in the bag. Glad to see him win in the fashion that he did and also making history with that Triple Crown. Probably the best cycling season by an individual and it's not over yet. He's probably the favorite for Emilia, Tre Valli, and Lombardia with the form he's in.

    • @GaiusPrimusMatius
      @GaiusPrimusMatius หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂😂😂😂​@@nktimelapse

  • @secretagent86
    @secretagent86 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

    Thank you for the respectful treatment of this tragedy. Definitely rider safety needs to be seriously improved. I am very sad for her family.

  • @ChrisSpriggs-rj2ys
    @ChrisSpriggs-rj2ys หลายเดือนก่อน +220

    I find it unforgivable that Muriel lay injured and undiscovered until after the race 😢
    Even an iPhone has crash detection and a warning alert

    • @chrisridesbicycles
      @chrisridesbicycles หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      Not to mention about every modern bike computer.

    • @Wiz3721
      @Wiz3721 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Motorcycles have crash detection and GPS tracking. A down rider will even get a call over the motorcycle speakers. If there is no response, then help is dispatched immediately. Catch up UCI.

    • @mettacitta2000
      @mettacitta2000 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Jesus, that's terrible 😢

    • @secretagent86
      @secretagent86 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Omg i had NO IDEA 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

    • @hellaslundblad
      @hellaslundblad หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      And as she had a head injury the time factor is very important..an unforgeable mistake from the organisers.

  • @stephencurry8552
    @stephencurry8552 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I grew up watching Eddie. This is the first time I have someone I admire as much as Eddie. Pogacar always makes me smile. Hearing this now, about his wins is really something special.

  • @GregBecker
    @GregBecker หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    A most amazing ride!
    It reminded me of Froome's raid to win the Giro.
    The strategy pits steady power vs erratic surges and relies on the chasers getting nervous, and not having a long term strategy/view leaving many of them in the wind chasing each other rather than a coordinated effort. If the chasers had ridden a more measured race, Pogacar may have had an extra minute lead with 2 laps to go, but none of the contenders would have been in the wind yet and Pogacar may have been chased down by a group of much fresher riders.
    Hats off to Pogacar!

  • @canaldoprotoplasma-pabaj.5384
    @canaldoprotoplasma-pabaj.5384 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Dan, your abilities commanding the show are better every day!! is a pleasure listening to your reports, even without any video supporting. Thanx!

  • @doctorscoot
    @doctorscoot หลายเดือนก่อน +114

    The absolute incompetence and failure of the UCI towards Muriel Furrier should be mentioned. An _hour_ she was crashed off the road lying there before they went looking! An _hour_ !!! Someone should be criminally charged for such a scandal, and the people at the top resigning in disgrace.

    • @rlm4471
      @rlm4471 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      A similar incident happened in Crossfit this year. An athlete drowned on a swim course, and nobody was aware of it until after the event. It would be so easy to find a sponsor who would supply a GPS tracker for each athlete, which would prevent incidents like this.

    • @harrismazari5484
      @harrismazari5484 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Its costly to cover every inch of junior races. I can understand why this happened. no need to ger your knickers in atwist over it

    • @discbrakefan
      @discbrakefan หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@rlm4471Difference is the death happened near the finish line of the CrossFit swim (which they stupidly put after the ride & run) and in sight of plenty of people including the “lifeguards” (untrained volunteers)

    • @rlm4471
      @rlm4471 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @harrismazari5484 With current technology, this is easy and cheap to prevent. GPS tracker tiles are the size of a coin and cost $20. Clip one to each rider and then you'll know right away if an athlete has stopped on the course.

    • @rlm4471
      @rlm4471 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @discbrakefan Not sure that the difference is relevant. In both cases, it took too long for people to notice, and in both cases it would have been cheap and easy to prevent this with a little GPS tracker.

  • @benedictearlson9044
    @benedictearlson9044 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Lovely tribute to Muriel Furrer from you Dan, thoughts to her friends and her family.

  • @kuffinauhead6790
    @kuffinauhead6790 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    Pogi, it wasn't a stupid move... YOUR LEGS told you to attack. Even if MVDP or Remco had been in the right position Pogi was unbeatable today. NO-ONE could match his power on the climbs and he would have attacked those guys and ridden away from them. He basically rode a 100km time trail in the middle of the most prestigious 1-day race in the world.
    Only 1 beast can do that. Pogi had a date with destiny - and no-one was going to deny him.
    Chapeau - you are 'il nuovo cannibale'.

  • @Allonmor
    @Allonmor หลายเดือนก่อน +97

    RIP MURIEL FURRER.
    SHAME ON YOU UCI

  • @jacquesleriche_
    @jacquesleriche_ หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Incredible show as always. Thanks!

  • @bikoaldo
    @bikoaldo หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dan. Sad as this is to say, when you announce a rider dying in a race it always brings me to tears. I think you do this sport a huge favor by being so emotional and heartfelt for such tragedy. Thank you for your vulnerability online with such emotional depth

  • @tonyg3091
    @tonyg3091 หลายเดือนก่อน +61

    Pog is not from this planet, thats first.
    Second-he gambled on the idea that the peloton will be too disorganized to mount a proper chase.
    Third-he knew Jan Tratnik was in the breakaway and will drop to wait and pull for him.
    And even then-this was the deepest I saw him dig this year, he was dead last 20 km.

    • @gregorslana7723
      @gregorslana7723 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Everytime he attacked everything went to chaos. First the peloton and then the 2nd attack in the lead group. If they would stay calm and play it right, they might have caught him. But the human nature gets the best of everyone, trying to chase the leading one.

    • @tonyg3091
      @tonyg3091 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@gregorslana7723 Honestly he looked pretty much on the ropes 20 km to go when at the last climb the gap dropped from 1:05 to less than 40 seconds. Local Eurosport commentators here were all like "Oooh Pogacar is in crisis, now we expect an attack from Van der Poel, this title is not decided yet .... and then Pog dug DEEP and went totally nuts the last 12 km, it was an EPIC ride

    • @joshurkmans5232
      @joshurkmans5232 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Doped in his whole body,new Armstrong.Wait a few years and whe will see

    • @tonyg3091
      @tonyg3091 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@joshurkmans5232 Wanna bet?

    • @ryanphelan6861
      @ryanphelan6861 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@tonyg3091 dont waste time. most talented cyclist ever by distance a prodigy and virtuoso. races all season on multiple continents not reclusive or aggressive over defensive. truly reminds me of messi or jordan who i saw in 80s. elite athlete drugs improve performance but create imbalance and sharper peaks over shorter windows of season. like i confidently enjoyed lemond i enjoy pogacar. keep enjoying youre watching something special maturing into prime next 4years at least as long as he enjoys it. like coppi in that way hes in love with bike

  • @Pomi3001
    @Pomi3001 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    As a big Pogacar fan I had to go through three nerve-racking hours as he held on to a relatively thin margin. A bit like watching the The Fugitive movie. 😂

    • @tonyg3091
      @tonyg3091 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@Pomi3001 About 20 km to go when the gap dropped from 1:05 to less than 40 seconds I thought it was over and his gamble will fail. 16km to go Remco got in the front of the chasing group and it started looking real bad. But this was also the moment Pog went absolutely nuts, if you rewatch it you will see he was absolutely maniacal at 12 km mark, dude dug DEEEEEEP, cant imagine what went through his head at that moment but this was riding on adrenaline only, on totally empty gas tank, sheer willpower, it was AMAZING to watch.

    • @evoathlete
      @evoathlete หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Riding on adrenaline? Riding on something that’s for sure….

    • @tonyg3091
      @tonyg3091 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@evoathlete Meh…

  • @davehause8571
    @davehause8571 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I haven't seen anyone ride 100 km solo from a stacked peloton since the 2006 Tour de France. Both were unbelievable!

    • @out_spocken
      @out_spocken หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hardly a peloton. A chase group. And one that got blown apart as soon as he attacked. It's not like there was an organized peleton chasing on a flat.
      Till there's any proof, it's just people with little information.
      Not to mention Pog took time off as opposed to many that did the Vuelta. So many factors. To simply boil it down to oh he is cheating is a bit stupid IMHO.
      Yes there's history. Sports is also littered with incredible unique clean moments too.
      I may be proven wrong. But till there's proof I'm not going to waste time on it or I may as well not watch the sport at all

    • @tonyg3091
      @tonyg3091 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      How about riding solo for 80 km as in...Strade Bianche this year?

    • @justridingalongthewatchtower
      @justridingalongthewatchtower หลายเดือนก่อน

      Except for the small detail that it wasn't 100km solo... what race were you watching? He had a teammate sit up from the lead group and pace him across, then sat in that group for several kilometers, then went off the front with another rider for almost 30km, who still offered respite, even if it was limited.
      Add to that a completely disorganized chase effort behind, it's not really that hard to comprehend how it played out the way it did.

    • @tonyg3091
      @tonyg3091 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@justridingalongthewatchtower It was exactly 50 km solo ride, yes.

  • @dt5337
    @dt5337 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    That was a great part acknowledging Muriel Ferrer. Perfectly pitched. Thanks for what I think translated many viewers' feelings, especially about her parents. Just a kid, what a waste.

  • @andrewfreeman9440
    @andrewfreeman9440 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Super sad about Muriel Furrer. I, like others, have other velo mates who have died or experienced severe injuries doing what we can't give up despite the considerable risks. But it is always a hard blow.
    I also live in Zurich and have ridden the stretch where she crashed hundreds of times. It is fast. Not super technical but not straightforward either. Muriel lived close by and although she was pretty young, doubtless had ridden this road a lot. OK, pure speculation here: She thought her local knowledge would give her an edge on this pivotal descent into the finish. The weather was horrible and the road was soaked. She miscalculated the sharp turn in the steep, middle section of the descent and .... That's the bit that's hard to contemplate. Can't really fault the organisers. Reminder, once again, about the primary objective: Stay safe. Cheers.

  • @jamesoneill2662
    @jamesoneill2662 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice to speak up about rider safety - there's never a bad time. I'll be thinking of Muriel on my next few rides

  • @seemitnaik3429
    @seemitnaik3429 หลายเดือนก่อน +68

    Ridiculously good has become synonymous with Pogi, although for me Ben o' Connor was a masterclass in itself

    • @Brinkken7
      @Brinkken7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Pogi is great and all, but we should all stop and appreciate that we're living through the Benaissance! 4th in Giro, 2nd in Vuelta and 2nd in Worlds this year!

    • @tonyg3091
      @tonyg3091 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@seemitnaik3429 Very smart riding from Ben. Very

    • @davidlilja9180
      @davidlilja9180 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Brinkken7 And now returning to Jayco Alula! :-)

    • @simonknowles4267
      @simonknowles4267 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ben will be Australia’s next grand tour winner.

    • @davidlilja9180
      @davidlilja9180 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@simonknowles4267 No "commentator's curse", please. Ben MAY be Australia's next grand tour winner. Putting 22 secs into the MVDP group was a fabulous way to finish off 270+kms for a silver medal.
      I'm with you in hoping Ben & Jerry's team can do it, but Jai ain't done with just yet. Always consider how you think about ALL your 'eggs'.

  • @JustBrowsing777
    @JustBrowsing777 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I should've known better, but now I know to never doubt Pogacar. I just didn't think he could win it like that..... So happy too for Ben pulling off a smart and perfectly timed silver move.

  • @thecellulontriptometer4166
    @thecellulontriptometer4166 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition..... I mean a Pogacar attack from 100KM!

  • @doncompton9453
    @doncompton9453 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It was a great argument to get rid of the radios. The majority of today's peloton just follows instructions from a radio. Some of them admitted that they didn't even realize that Pogacar had left the ship. It was a great read by Tadej especially with his teammate in the breakaway.

  • @zikaperic2133
    @zikaperic2133 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Pogacar had balls and that paid off despite everyone know he will attack. If there was any organization behind instead of sporadic attacks they could catch him.

  • @ss1bomber
    @ss1bomber หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think we'll look back at this Men's worlds and remember them better than they actually were. Both Remo and Pog were out and out favourites and it looked like Pog would win from about 80k out. I'm still shocked at the lack of team committment to the chase when Pog went. The dutch, USA and Belgium all had multiple riders, none of which wanted to work on the front. As soon as Remo attacked it was mostly leaders which caused the stop/start pace and gave Pog the win.

  • @charliedillon1400
    @charliedillon1400 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Very proud of Chloe Dygert's silver medal. Saw her in the post race interview talking about how much pain she has on and off the bike from her brutal leg injury. She is tough as nails.

  • @georgehugh3455
    @georgehugh3455 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Regarding the Women's WC Dutch Clusterf~~k, having _"a lot of chefs in the kitchen"_ *is NOT a valid excuse for piss-poor "Team" tactics, it's just the selfish reason it happened.*

  • @AntonReiser-ns4xi
    @AntonReiser-ns4xi หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What a POGI-Show ... already a living legend ...
    2024 ... "The POGI-Year" ... Pink Panther ... Yellow Lion ... and now ... Rainbow-Warrior ... 🙂

  • @phillipstivi3947
    @phillipstivi3947 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Such a wonderful and a such a tragic news in one racing show....

  • @1xRacer
    @1xRacer หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    it's extremely difficult not to be suspicious with cycling performances on this level. But at the same time not want to take away from what tadej has achieved. It's just unreal!

    • @benedictearlson9044
      @benedictearlson9044 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yep, read your last sentence again. Good evening.

  • @edymarkonthego4096
    @edymarkonthego4096 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Demi Vollering selfishness paid the price.

    • @davidlilja9180
      @davidlilja9180 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Even Roglic worked for Tadej, and he genuinely smiled at the win, too.
      Maybe one year the Dutch girls will put their country ahead of themselves and work as a real team.

  • @barbarap9452
    @barbarap9452 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    also I think that if a rider decides to attack 100 km to finish - he has to be sure that he wont get caught - no one would risk a WC race like that, without knowing that he wont get caught. SO Pogačar must have known, others wont catch him. So my queation is, what is that that makes Pogačar so sure? I dont believe his words that he didnt plan it, he knew ekxactly, maybe others didnt in a team, but he himself knew when and why it is behind that makes him so sure to attack so early and not get caught.

    • @out_spocken
      @out_spocken หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He doesn't know. It's a gamble. Just like he's done on stages in GTs. He knows he's better than most. Really good understanding of his form, everyone else's form, possible tactics that would occur, strategy. Instead of everyone working together his attack basically caused everyone else to attack and the chase group blew apart. The course was a huge factor in this. On a flat course he'd not have stood a chance.
      You're assuming he rides like everyone else and is defensive. He's show for a long time now he doesn't do that.
      What you're implying is based purely on your lack of understanding and information to what and how the team and Pog went into this.

    • @tonyg3091
      @tonyg3091 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He knew nothing, It was just a gamble and it paid off BIG TIME. Perhaps he just got pissed by the constant attacks by the likes of Castrillo and decided this stop'n'go thingy is not to his liking. Only thing Pog knew is the course was very hard and if he opened a decent gap there could possibly maybe be a hope he would get away with it.

    • @tonyg3091
      @tonyg3091 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@out_spocken Exactly

  • @milanvanwelden9952
    @milanvanwelden9952 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Tim Wellens (team belgium) said that nobody could have followed pogi's attack, even if they were in the right position and if they did they would have blowed not much later

  • @tomosapor
    @tomosapor หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    👑👑👑 the king from slovenija mr Pogi and his frends

  • @litespud
    @litespud หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Pog did great - it would only have been “ridiculous” if he didn’t pull it off. Entirely possible that no-one responded to his attack because they all thought it was ridiculous too. They underestimated him.
    As for casualties in cycling - no one wants to see this, but the sport involves people dressed essentially in colored nylon tights traveling at high speed on inherently unstable machines - yes, we can improve road furniture, use better barriers at corners etc, but short of straight line TTs in dry weather while wearing Michelin Man suits, I don’t see how you’re going to eliminate the risk of injury or, sadly, death.

  • @JoergWeida
    @JoergWeida หลายเดือนก่อน

    Antonia Niedermaier was the MVP of the mixed relay. She took 20 seconds on the Australians and the Italians while riding almost the complete distance on her own (Liane Lippert was just able to follow her). And the Australians had the world champion on their team and both, Brown and Chapman, took turns!

  • @danielalanine7379
    @danielalanine7379 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    27/28/29 are usually peak cycling years so…more to come for sure

  • @leomaduro8661
    @leomaduro8661 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    As much as I appreciate Tadej for his achievements, it only emphasizes the importance of the same feat back then in Merckx's days, when they were doing close to 200 race days in a year... We should always keep that in mind.

    • @urbanciber6839
      @urbanciber6839 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This comment makes no sense

  • @gregknipe8772
    @gregknipe8772 หลายเดือนก่อน

    thank you.

  • @squashduos1258
    @squashduos1258 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sometimes breaking the classic mold of how and when to attack will provide the best unexpected strategy which makes the opponents think “he will be reigned in….it’s not possible to hold the lead for that long…” surprise is the best attack fwiw

  • @paulsolon6229
    @paulsolon6229 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    How did death crash happen? Descent? Corner? Brand of Helmet ?

  • @mikemartinez4450
    @mikemartinez4450 หลายเดือนก่อน

    He did what he did.Others might consider it to be a stupid move but to him it obviously not. Understandbly it's really hard for some to wrap around ones head why he attack ed from that far away but if you would look back from some of his previous races long attacks had paid him great dividends winning a good number of them overwhelmingly. This brings to mind the element of surprise has effectively worked for him leaving his opponents' tactical plans useless. The hilly course suited his strength, he didn't want the race to come down to a bunch sprint and play at the strong suit of Remco, MVP and all the others.

  • @dilligaf2818
    @dilligaf2818 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks Dan

  • @derickcastillo9083
    @derickcastillo9083 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Merckx, Hinualt, Coppi, could only dream of being as good as Pogi!

    • @benedictearlson9044
      @benedictearlson9044 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hinault had a better right hook, Eddie had male model looks and Coppi had better hair - Tadej is the one who's dreaming.

    • @tonyg3091
      @tonyg3091 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@benedictearlson9044 😅🤣😂😅 Ace!

  • @jascollinscork
    @jascollinscork หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Delighted for Pog! He's just pure class! Unlike the UCI which are a joke! Their Paranoid about sock height to rider position etc yet when it comes to their own annual race a poor innocent young rider dies.... don't know how they cam live with themselves really! And a simple course fix could have helped that young girl RIP Muriel 😢😢

    • @davidlilja9180
      @davidlilja9180 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Maybe it's time for Adam Hansen and his cohort to grow some bigger balls and be prepared to strike over the UCI/race organisers short comings.

  • @tungstenkid2271
    @tungstenkid2271 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I read that the UCI don't allow radios in World Championship road races, which apparently made it difficult for her team to know Muriel had crashed.

  • @wingtip76
    @wingtip76 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    I really really really hope that Pogi is an honest person and that his performances are genuine and not enhanced by substances

    • @whatwelearned
      @whatwelearned หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Oh come on

    • @MarangMatlala
      @MarangMatlala หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Please go work at WADA, we require your expertise to keep the sport clean.

    • @michaelmottlau5941
      @michaelmottlau5941 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@whatwelearnedOh come on to yourself.

    • @michaelmottlau5941
      @michaelmottlau5941 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@MarangMatlala Being skeptical to this performance is okay and fair.

    • @MarangMatlala
      @MarangMatlala หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@michaelmottlau5941 I said he should work for WADA in all seriousness. Nothing about skepticism or cynicism and its pros and cons.

  • @darekpiegat1
    @darekpiegat1 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Tadej Pogačar is not racing against the peloton anymore but against the whole cycling history.

  • @gideonmthembu8693
    @gideonmthembu8693 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The writing was on the walls that pogacar was going to win this world championship. Chapeau GOAT

  • @hojetsala5178
    @hojetsala5178 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The scary thing is, that we know, the more people die the less we tend to care. One dead rider is a tragedy and an outrage, but when more and more follow it just becomes normal. Mainly I think because maintaining this anger and the feeling of helplessness is very hard on the mind. And what can we even do? If the UCI does not care, and will not adress the blatant mistakes that led to the young woman's death, what recourse do we as fans have? What do the riders have? I wish I knew. This is so sad and sickening, again and again.

    • @out_spocken
      @out_spocken หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The UCI are useless. On so many levels. Wish another body started up and everyone jumps ship...like golf. All the ridiculous rules to protect riders in how they ride...yet things around them are treated so nonchalantly is staggering.
      If a rider wants to super tuck, let them super tuck. They're pros. If they want to speed down hills faster than they can handle let them. That's on them. Fix speed humps, fix monitoring. Fix drafting and stick bottles, fix shitty sprint stage endings and sped bumps/traffic islands,maybe look at salary caps. Create some new unsupported one day races. There's so much that could be done in cycling. Top of the iceberg stuff.

  • @shema02
    @shema02 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    If VDP followed(positioned well and followed) Pogacar
    he'd have had a very good chance of defending his tittle, on a course many said was "too hard" for him

    • @tonyg3091
      @tonyg3091 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That;s a big IF mate...😁

    • @shema02
      @shema02 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tonyg3091 Droping someone on these climbs was harder than anyone anticipated. if Vdp was on his wheel I doughbt he'd have been droped

  • @Phlakaton88
    @Phlakaton88 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I watched Roche do the triple in 87 and it still blows me away that ANYONE could do that. Especially now. Tadej is a beast. I see no reason to let Tadej go... EVER. I know staying with him is pretty impossible for almost everyone but still. Nooo... don't let him ride away!

    • @tonyg3091
      @tonyg3091 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Problem with this following Pog thingy is this-everybody knows they cannot match him. Everybody knows their legs will be ripped off if they tried. So quite naturally they start looking at each other and scratch their asses wondering who will lead the chase as this one will be the first to explode. And meanwhile Pog slaps second after second on them until it is over.

    • @Phlakaton88
      @Phlakaton88 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tonyg3091 I agree bigtime. I think it has to be a team endeavor. I can't think of anyone else staying on his wheel either. LOL.

    • @tonyg3091
      @tonyg3091 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Phlakaton88 No one if it is steep. This year there is no one on the planet who can keep up with Pog on the climbs.

    • @feedbackzaloop
      @feedbackzaloop หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@tonyg3091 that one is big oversimplification. Nobody, Pog included, "slaps second after second". Like every attack, there is an initial phase when some seconds are granted, then control with gap not changing, then the attacker gets brought behind. Of course the first phase is the hardest and no-one is expected to bring him back immediately. It's just somehow the peloton refuses to finish the job time after time after time.

    • @tonyg3091
      @tonyg3091 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@feedbackzaloop Did you watch the Montreal race?

  • @Gugner
    @Gugner หลายเดือนก่อน

    We WANT GCN with race videos BACK! We WANT!👌🏼😊😃😃😃😃😃😃🙏🙏🙏🙏

  • @nathandart1997
    @nathandart1997 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ben O’Connor also took 2nd in the UAE Tour.

  • @cipher.u.justice
    @cipher.u.justice หลายเดือนก่อน

    Both MVDP and Remco said it was too far out to follow and try and hold and funnily enough Skujins said Belgium should have done LESS and rather be patient for another lap rather than burn up all the domestiques immediately. The truth is there was probably nothing anyone could have done when Pogacar is riding like this. Tactically Belgium played it as best they could have. It doesn't make sense for Remco to follow when his whole team is still there with 100km+ to go and Remco isn't beating him in a sprint anyway, it wasn't his day either way.

  • @JSC131
    @JSC131 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    RIP Muriel Furrer. Totally predictable Pogi had a go, but definitely has bollocks to make cycle racing exciting phenomenal rider and a very likeable person.

  • @Andranik05
    @Andranik05 หลายเดือนก่อน

    🙏🏼 Muriel

  • @robbchastain3036
    @robbchastain3036 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    It doesn't seem possible that a young woman could start a world-class bike race and crash and nobody said anything and nothing was done until it was too late. Sure, take away race radios as we know them, the racing would be better, but let race radios become safety radios with constant communication with course officials. And why the sport eschews any form of body armor continues to shock me. With bottles on the belly and down the back being used for aero gains, surely something cool could be created as a chest and back protector. And maybe the entire racing culture needs to change. Perhaps someone saw this young woman crash a few days ago, but with racing speeds expected to be maintained and the assumption that someone would help her, nothing was done or said. Maybe a rider who stops to help could be then driven back up to the pack in light of her doing the right thing for a fellow athlete.

    • @chiefsittingstill6061
      @chiefsittingstill6061 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Imo there's an awful lot that needs to change. Cycling can be an overly conservative sport; the peloton would still be riding around in wool jerseys and cotton caps if that mentality persisted. Wrt the protection issues specifically, you only need look at Wout van Aert's season to find reasons why that should change. It's crazy to me that the good health of these top riders is so valuable, yet there's relatively little done to reduce the possibility of the having these season-ending or even career-ending crashes...

    • @bdonthebrat5021
      @bdonthebrat5021 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@chiefsittingstill6061 the way Pog was going around the corners Sunday was crazy you just can't stop some of these guys from riding on the edge of disaster. Even as dominant as Pogacar is he only won by 30 seconds that is how good the top riders are there is barely any separation

  • @stephenbetley9596
    @stephenbetley9596 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It was stupid, yes, but succeeded because of some superb race management. Bridging to a fairly fresh Tratnik who single handledly decimated the Belgian chase, and them "teammate" Sivakov who no doubt will get a nice Brucie Bonus. It kept the gap at a minute until it was essentially Pogi vs the favourites. The Belgians imo made the mistake of including Wellens who had a major conflict of interest. They missed Wout. Would have been a different story otherwise imo.

    • @tonyg3091
      @tonyg3091 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Dude, the chasing group could not catch even the Healy/Skuijns duo for like 50 km, how could they catch THE KING? But you are totally right about Wout, it would have been completely different story had he been there.

  • @leangrypoulet7523
    @leangrypoulet7523 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Given how dominant the Pog was throughout the season, especially on the tough one-day races, I do wonder why he prioritised the Giro (which comes around every year) over the Olympics, which as we know only comes around every four years. I’d suggest the TdF/Olympics/WC triple would have been far more impressive than his nonetheless impressive Giro/TdF/WC triple. I think he would have easily had the measure of Evenopol on the Paris course. Chapeau, clearly, but will he have the same dominance, chance or fitness in four year’s time? Opportunity for first-ever, never-again greatness missed? Even though he’s just achieved something wonderfully historic. There may never be someone like him, or someone as dominant over a stellar era of riders, again.

    • @msavli1069
      @msavli1069 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Because the olympics arent as valued as the giro, its not even close in prestige. Additionally, there was also the whole Urška affair which soured him on the olympics.

    • @tonyg3091
      @tonyg3091 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You are missing a very important point here-racing programs are made long before the start of the season. Including Giro in Pog’s schedule was making sure he will win a GT this season. Nobody knew what would happen to Jonas and what form would he come to the Tour so they made sure one GT was in the bag as there was no guarantee he’d win the Tour. And winning a GT is FAR more important than Olympics.

    • @martinthemaverick6052
      @martinthemaverick6052 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He ditched olympic do to unprofessionalism in Slovenian Olympic commite, it didn't send Urska to Olympic

  • @chrisridesbicycles
    @chrisridesbicycles หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I wonder why the „tactics“ of trying to catch Pog is still to burn domestique after domestique. None of those can match him, so the gap will go out. The right tactics is „all hands on deck“ immediately. The domestiques shall try to hold him and the leader need to rotate through as well and maybe get back a few seconds with every pull.

    • @tonyg3091
      @tonyg3091 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Because this is how it works. This is how you chase a breakaway. Pog rides steady power while domestiques, who are all very capable professionals, ride at the top of their power and drag the leaders behind them. This theoretically means the peloton as a whole is faster than the breakaway as they rotate at the front. On flat terrain they would have easily caught up with him. But sadly for them that was not a flat course.

  • @ashleybrownau
    @ashleybrownau หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey Dan (and GCN team)... Discovery+ and Max still not available in Australia-any updates on when we'll get global cycling race coverage again? (reminder; we had it until WB Discovery shut GCN+ down)

  • @jmag616
    @jmag616 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dan, you delivered such awful news with lots of respect and decency. Thank you. I do wonder whether something like the airbags motogp riders use, could be adapted for cycling. Here’s hoping sporting bodies will leave politics and focus on safety.

  • @CryWolfFilms
    @CryWolfFilms หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    why do people keep saying world champs is the triple crown? literally makes no sense. it would be all three world tours. why are you not including the tour of spain?

    • @jpethereal
      @jpethereal หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      In many year of the history, vuelta is held at the same time of giro.

    • @sonckad
      @sonckad หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      The Vuelta came about much later and is still considered the least prestigious of the GTs. Not to mention it is a bigger achievement to win a GT and a pretty much one-day classic race within the same year. You need to be a more versatile rider.

    • @tonyg3091
      @tonyg3091 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      See…Pog spoilt you into believing this is possible. It isnt.

    • @CryWolfFilms
      @CryWolfFilms หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@tonyg3091 it is. he could have won the vuelta easily this year

    • @tonyg3091
      @tonyg3091 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@CryWolfFilmsFor the ten thousandth time: NO. He himself and his coach both said that if they went for the Vuelta, that would have destroyed his body for this season and probably-the next. Believe it or not Pog is human.
      Vuelta is not known as The Tour of Pain for nothing you know

  • @halloweenjack2562
    @halloweenjack2562 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gotta say, I'm with Adam on this - a Triple Crown suggests to me winning three comparative races - of course I'm referring to Giro / Tour / Vuelta, not two comparative plus one distinctly different but highly credible other. Swapping the Vuelta for another, allbeit the Worlds feels like treating it as sub standard or below the par of the other two grand tours, and I'd be quite slighted or even offended if I happened to be Spanish. As often publicised the Vuelta had a higher proportion of climbing than the other two, or possibly all three of each of their recent editions. Ok, it's history and tradition, but sometimes these need to be brought up to date - as Emily Pankhust would surely agree (....well perhaps a bunch of bicycle races isn't quite of the same importance....)!

    • @malehumanperson7901
      @malehumanperson7901 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The Vuelta is indeed less prestigious than the Giro or Tour just as the Giro is also less prestigious than the Tour itself. That's not some slight to Spain or a compliment to France. It's iust the reality and cycling is not an outlier in this either. The Australian Open is somewhat less well regarded than Wimbledon and the US Masters and British Open are usually seen as more prestigious than the other golf majors.

    • @tonyg3091
      @tonyg3091 หลายเดือนก่อน

      OK, an honest question-do you see ANYONE who could win this? Anyone? Except for Pog obviously. This was never done in the history of the sport and there is a bloody damn good reason for it.

  • @ArnyRimmer
    @ArnyRimmer หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I think that Pogačar must have to attack. Otherwise many other riders would have attackt and the race would be over. Belgiem and Holland riders would not helped SLovenians. There were only Rolgič and he was worthless. But there was Tratnik in the front and so to join him made a sense. It was a crazy move but the only chance how to win this championship. Now it will be every race thw whole wolrd against Pogačar. He would have only his team. UAE is fine but Slovenians was weak. He wouldn't control the whole race for 100 km so he left.

  • @JohnSmith-ck5qk
    @JohnSmith-ck5qk หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Congrats to Ben O'Conner for placing first in the category of human brings

  • @oranjetoeters1
    @oranjetoeters1 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tratnik was the key. Gave pog crucial breather

  • @Maggie_n_Mitch23
    @Maggie_n_Mitch23 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Quite possibly the most stupid ridiculous brilliant attack ever . 🥰

  • @pablothecloudman
    @pablothecloudman หลายเดือนก่อน

    I mean it's true that it doesn't take a ton of strategic thinking to attack from so far out, but it's still an impressive feat to be able to do that, and clearly if he won the triple crown this year then the strategy of just brute forcing it clearly works for him. I will say as someone who isn't a massive fan it can get a little boring to watch. I think it's funny to see some accuse others of using domestiques as "bad strategy" lol.

  • @JMcLeodKC711
    @JMcLeodKC711 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    1:11 Best season in male pro cycling history? How about Jacques Anquetil 1963 (Paris-Nice, Criterium National, Vuelta, Critérium du Dauphiné and Le Tour) or Eddy Merckx 1974 (Giro - Suisse - Tour and worlds). If you look at the 1974 race dates, between 5 May and 26 July, Eddy Merckx won the Giro, Tour de Suisse and Le Tour.

    • @tonyg3091
      @tonyg3091 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Did Eddy won a monument in 1974 tho? No? There you go then 😁

    • @JMcLeodKC711
      @JMcLeodKC711 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tonyg3091In 1972 Eddy won LBL, Giro, Tour and Lombardia

    • @tonyg3091
      @tonyg3091 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JMcLeodKC711 We are talking about the year he won the Triple Crown man

  • @MetalMike87
    @MetalMike87 หลายเดือนก่อน

    No radios = Best races

  • @KK-lg8uz
    @KK-lg8uz หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi just a question about the "Triple crown" comment. Is La Vuelta not considered as prestigious as the other two grand tours? Why's it not included?

  • @steveschmidt2690
    @steveschmidt2690 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dan. I was not aware of the accusations in these comments about Muriel. Please elaborate next week.

  • @Sills71
    @Sills71 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Pogacar's season was BETTER than any single season ANYONE (including Merckx) has EVER had. The Giro, TdF, WC and 2 Monuments is the pinnacle. NO one had ever won the triple with a SINGLE Monument and Pog won 2. There is now no reason to watch bike racing, you will never see anyone do better.

  • @robikomel7467
    @robikomel7467 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tadej is a kind of magic !!!!He make me proud to bd Slovenian.And Rogljic too.

  • @BroccLeeAV
    @BroccLeeAV หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hella yeah

  • @GeekonaBike
    @GeekonaBike หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was hoping for Toms in rainbows as an 'In you face' to Latvia for rescheduling their nats just to get Toms out of that jersey. I can't imagine who they thought could better represent Latvia???

  • @app6336
    @app6336 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Saying that Muriel Furrer had crashed badly is an euphemism. She crashed and no one noticed it. Neither UCI officials nor team members, coaches, colleagues, road marshals, literally no one! She laid down for hours, unnoticed, heli landed hour after finish of the race!!! And the place of her crash was ridden again on the last loop before finish!!! And NO ONE reacted properly!
    It is a scandalous thing! It is not a local racy, it's the Worlds, for god's sake!
    Where were the UCI officials. Were they busy measuring contestants' socks length?
    I am outraged! It is unbelievable! It should have never happened!
    Lost for words....

  • @telmolicious
    @telmolicious หลายเดือนก่อน

    Imagine if he’d ridden the Vuelta as well 😮
    Now maybe it woulda taken too much out of him but he could have won it without going full out.
    Imagine 3 tours, the WC, Strade, Liege and possibly more.
    That would never be beaten in our lifetime..
    unless he did it himself 😏

  • @PeacefulRallyCar-pw3cs
    @PeacefulRallyCar-pw3cs หลายเดือนก่อน

    My 2🪙.. the short chainstays and short wheelbase (Jr female) were minor factors.

  • @peteracain
    @peteracain หลายเดือนก่อน

    Didn't catch the race yesterday because GCN race coverage folded.

  • @Dystopia2020
    @Dystopia2020 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Outstanding rider. Outstanding doper. Unbeatable.

  • @silasrobertshaw8122
    @silasrobertshaw8122 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    All these idiots are so worried about each other they won't work to keep the strongest rider from winning. These guys are so tactically unaware, and then my man Ben O'Connor slipped away for 2nd as well.

    • @richiejames928
      @richiejames928 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Exactly,,,, masterful from Pog…. They lost themselves with pure confusion.

  • @georgehugh3455
    @georgehugh3455 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Maybe the UCI could air the Women's MSM DURING the Men's MSM simultaneously, along with three or four episodes of _Game of Thrones,_ to relieve the sheer boredom before they finally get to the last half hour of racing?

  • @jkmacie
    @jkmacie หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pog kicking himself he didn't tackle the Vuelta....

  • @LegSpinna
    @LegSpinna หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    You often here the word 'unbelievable' used when describing Tadej Pogacar. Still no questions are being asked about this 'unbelievable' rider.

  • @darktimus
    @darktimus หลายเดือนก่อน

    Some luck on the last part where the chasers just slow down and look at each other after they caught Ben Healy. Ben Healy might have chance to close down Pogacar if the group didn’t caught him.

  • @lucio9939
    @lucio9939 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    he is doped, sorry pogacar fanboys, haha!

  • @kingsman116
    @kingsman116 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We have a hard enough time avoiding death on open roads. Racers on closed roads should be thinking about winning and losing, not life and death. The sport as a whole needs to do better

  • @MattGrovesFTW
    @MattGrovesFTW หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think it’s harder for Pog to just sit in the pack and ride. It’s like his legs have to go hard or they will shut off.

  • @DumbShitBySteve
    @DumbShitBySteve หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Sling Shot from Slovania

  • @richiejames928
    @richiejames928 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tadejs best form of defence is his attack…. He knows if he breaks off early it forces every other weaker rider to panic and blow early…. That entire group of MVDP and remco and everyone else didn’t know what to do after pogi done a pogi….they where left looking at each other doing silly little pulls each…. Funny to watch.

  • @steveschmidt2690
    @steveschmidt2690 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If I was muriels dad, i wouid want to die. He probably was her biggest fan and helped her on her journey. I dont know if thats true, but what a heartbteak to lose a daughter due to a cycling accident

  • @Lion-wd1px
    @Lion-wd1px หลายเดือนก่อน

    my chin dropped at 100k to go, I was between 'Mvdp follow come on' and this is stupid the belgians and netherlands have the whole team left

  • @infinati
    @infinati หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    I would have thought the Triple Crown would have been all 3 grand tours

    • @georgehugh3455
      @georgehugh3455 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      That would make too much sense.

    • @FakeFrost1
      @FakeFrost1 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Vuelta in the past and still has less renown compared to other 2 grand tours and big one day races(monuments, words etc.) in the cycling community. So since good old times triple crown has always been Giro - Tour - Worlds in the same season.

    • @litespud
      @litespud หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Three riders (Merckx, Hinault and Froome) have won all three GTs in succession, but over two seasons. No one has won all three in one season, but I agree that the “triple crown” should be all three GTs in a single season, although I don’t know if we’ll ever see it. I think the somewhat artificial giro-tour-WC “triple” is considered a big deal because it’s actually possible. However, in terms of an exhibition of cycling prowess, how does it differ from a giro-tour-monument “triple”? Three 3-week GTs in succession would be a truly singular achievement

    • @malehumanperson7901
      @malehumanperson7901 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@litespud The Giro-Tour-Vuelta would have absolutely been possible this year for Tadej if he had gone for it. Without a fully fit Vingegaard up against him nobody can stop Pogi. Not even Mr. Vuelta Primoz himself.

    • @sophieice
      @sophieice หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      up until relatively recently the vuelta and giro were both in the same part of the season, so it was impossible for riders to do all 3

  • @nicolasdelaforge7420
    @nicolasdelaforge7420 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not yet.... he needs 2 more Tour de France (5), 1 Vuelta, 1 Liege- Bastogne - Liege (3), 2 Il Lombardia (5), 1 milan- San Remo and... 1 Paris- Roubaix (?) - then, he'll be #1 of history, ahead of Merckx and Hinault. Hinault is the only small (5'9 150) rider to ever win Paris- Roubaix. Pogacar is 5'9 145. He won Flanders, so Paris- Roubaix might be possible.

    • @tonyg3091
      @tonyg3091 หลายเดือนก่อน

      OK let's think about that. 2 more Tours is a given, there is no doubt about that. 1 Vuelta-ditto. 1 more LBL-granted. He will win his 4th Lombardia this year so 5 is in the bag too.
      And here comes the tough part...Milan-San Remo-possible but when...who knows. Roubaix-same thing, he will have to organise his entire season around Roubaix and in the presence of beasts like Mathieu it is not gonna be easy. Possible but again-when, who knows.

  • @NoahWinkler-f8i
    @NoahWinkler-f8i 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    0:46 Why is that?

  • @donquique1
    @donquique1 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Belgium missed wva badly. He could had gone with pogi in the inital attack and race synamics would be different. We will never know.

  • @fanridersclub1306
    @fanridersclub1306 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Only Floyd Landis was able to achieve such a performance! Master piece, perfect!

  • @theillmOnk
    @theillmOnk หลายเดือนก่อน

    attack was an all brains gamble