Sti engine bay layout is not designed for the heat thay big power produces. You should definitely consider v mount and an oil cooler that is NOT sandwiched between intercooler and radiator. Things will keep breaking if heating issue is not resolved.
My WRX Channel I am in South Australia where half the year is more than 110 on track. In winter I still need to cool the car down during each session. I have got two oil coolers now and they have only just kept things under control...For the amount of money you have spent on it, it’s so worth that little extra to look after your car. PS: where is your apr big wing?
TJ Hunt had the same problem with his 370z, he upgraded to a bigger oil pan, don’t know if that would work with your car. Just a suggestion, but it has worked for him
I have very similar build as you and was really surprised how much the Verus hood scoop delete helped keep engine temps down. I have not yet taken it to the track, but on the street, my coolant temps are about 5 to 10° cooler since I installed the hood scoop delete.
I had a 25 row mushimoto oil cooler mounted in front grill and it worked great with my car making almost 500 hp. After getting a fmic I have a top mount oil cooler from bline motorsports.
Great video of what things to look for. Heat reduction and reliability on the track is critical to enjoy the car and have fun after many sessions for sure.
1:59 is still a fast lap for a street car. I would be very happy getting under 2 minutes, I was running 2:04 in my type r last time out, but it was 95 degrees out so maybe next time will be better.
Get sure you check for your wheel bearings. The original grease in the bearings is not track-heat resistant. After few rounds on track the bearings are dry and die few days later (experienced in Germany by another TH-camr who runs the Nordschleife...)
Wait!? Does perrin intercooler really only use those regular worm clamps!? Need to clamps like what prl uses. Definitely get oil cooler. Do top mount one
Thanks for real life info on the track and parts! Cross mind about other gauges? I know you are about best bang/functionality. I personally Have the defi gauges and aem wide band in sti. Which oil cooler? The top mount location under the scoop? Only one that tends to fit for are cars.
I thought something much worse happened....ya got me. Also, those clamps around the throttle body, ditch em and get GOOD t-bolt clamps. All in all you're doing great. I'd love to track my 16' but I think I'll keep it a street car and more than likely track my older 2.0L wrx. GD's are cheaper to fully convert into track cars anyways. Being paid off makes a big difference too 🙃
These combo rads/oil coolers are a REALLY bad idea! If you are tracking the car you should be using a separate 25 row oil cooler. The combo rads just make things worse as the two fluids are cross temp soaking each other - honestly these are a really bad idea for higher power cars and track duty.
You need to keep on mind you have a big front plate blocking the air in the inter cooler, that could be part of the overheat problem, i would recommend take the plate off at least on the track, btw car looks great and sounds healthy. Keep it up! :D
Subaru engines are placed so far in front of tue front axel that turning becomes quite difficult, with all that imbalanced inertia. That’s just physics. Hope they make a mid-engine STI someday.
Just curious, what was the cost of the engine build? Am on the fence about modifying my engine gradually or just going for a built block from the start
Hey your looking for the radium dual hanger correct ? If you haven’t ordered one yet let me know on this comment I have one that hasn’t been used still in the box with 2 AEM fuel pumps .
At the beginning of your video you said you were on a base tune. For future reference, you should never go hard on a base tune...that is how you damage parts. A base tune will allow it to run but it's primary purpose is to make it safe to data log to complete a dedicated tune. I see the video is 2 years old so this is probably irrelevant lol.
At your power levels you shouldn't even be trying to track the car... Honestly don't try this again without fitting a 25 row cooler - don't go with the small perrin cooler and definitely not the Mishimoto cooler kit. You really need a 25 row Mocal or Koyo cooler with custom lines. The combo RAD/Oil coolers are a really REALLY bad idea. The gold tape is a total waste of money especially as your IAT sensor is still in the MAF and I'd highly recommend you move to an SD tune and relocate your IAT sensor to the intake pipe just before the throttle body. You also shouldn't be wrapping your headers! Good luck man....
Yohan lo it’s a fire risk and it also can hold in moisture, cause corrosion and cracking of the header. The only suitable ‘wrap’ for a header is ceramic coating.
Can’t wait to see you go faster soon buddy, next up we are addressing that fuel system!
Good work on that motor boss. I can't wait to get a ride in her.
Sti engine bay layout is not designed for the heat thay big power produces. You should definitely consider v mount and an oil cooler that is NOT sandwiched between intercooler and radiator.
Things will keep breaking if heating issue is not resolved.
Of course. Also, keep in mind track conditions were NOT optimal for track duty. Track temps were over 110 degrees.
My WRX Channel I am in South Australia where half the year is more than 110 on track. In winter I still need to cool the car down during each session. I have got two oil coolers now and they have only just kept things under control...For the amount of money you have spent on it, it’s so worth that little extra to look after your car. PS: where is your apr big wing?
This happened to me in my WRX the day after I got it back from tuning at Brenn. The hose clamps that are used in diesel applications work really well.
TJ Hunt had the same problem with his 370z, he upgraded to a bigger oil pan, don’t know if that would work with your car. Just a suggestion, but it has worked for him
Yes oil cooler makes big difference
I was looking at the heat shield, fitment?
I ran a Perrin oil cooler which did wonders in New Orleans 90+ weather with 70% humidity
always amazes me when people throw 500+ hp in a motor without addressing oiling issues. should have never done a track day without the cooler.
Epic video, so good to see some track action, really miss the FA20 content though :( want some WRX track videos too.
TBolt clamps. Perrin FMICs biggest weakness. Check out those sertrab oil coolers too. The 25 row series 6 will fit our cars!
I have very similar build as you and was really surprised how much the Verus hood scoop delete helped keep engine temps down. I have not yet taken it to the track, but on the street, my coolant temps are about 5 to 10° cooler since I installed the hood scoop delete.
I thought more air would cool it? How does the delete cool it more?
I had a 25 row mushimoto oil cooler mounted in front grill and it worked great with my car making almost 500 hp. After getting a fmic I have a top mount oil cooler from bline motorsports.
Things did not go so well - said every person whose ever owned a modded WRX.
🤣🤣🤣
i have a modded wrx = rev to 7,200 every day 4.5 years = 150 mph = not even a fart or a hick up so eat a turd !
Great video of what things to look for. Heat reduction and reliability on the track is critical to enjoy the car and have fun after many sessions for sure.
1:59 is still a fast lap for a street car. I would be very happy getting under 2 minutes, I was running 2:04 in my type r last time out, but it was 95 degrees out so maybe next time will be better.
Can you please elaborate on the oil change? Do you recommend changing oil after track days? Each time?
100% u just beat the car up
Get sure you check for your wheel bearings. The original grease in the bearings is not track-heat resistant. After few rounds on track the bearings are dry and die few days later (experienced in Germany by another TH-camr who runs the Nordschleife...)
Good call! Thanks for the heads up. 👍
How's the motor going now after 2 years?
Great video and Sti. What kinda power ? And what oil do you use ?
Engine upgrades look really good. Great video Man. I'm glad the car is running well. Stay safe 🙏 brother.
Wait!? Does perrin intercooler really only use those regular worm clamps!? Need to clamps like what prl uses. Definitely get oil cooler. Do top mount one
Did you do a video on installing that oil temp gauge ? I’ve been looking on doing that for my STI
Hopefully one coming soon? ;)
Thanks for real life info on the track and parts! Cross mind about other gauges? I know you are about best bang/functionality. I personally Have the defi gauges and aem wide band in sti. Which oil cooler? The top mount location under the scoop? Only one that tends to fit for are cars.
I thought something much worse happened....ya got me.
Also, those clamps around the throttle body, ditch em and get GOOD t-bolt clamps.
All in all you're doing great. I'd love to track my 16' but I think I'll keep it a street car and more than likely track my older 2.0L wrx. GD's are cheaper to fully convert into track cars anyways. Being paid off makes a big difference too 🙃
CSF makes an oil cooler/radiator combo for only 600. Look into it! 👍
I just got this and installed last week. I need an oil temp sensor installed now though to monitor
These combo rads/oil coolers are a REALLY bad idea! If you are tracking the car you should be using a separate 25 row oil cooler. The combo rads just make things worse as the two fluids are cross temp soaking each other - honestly these are a really bad idea for higher power cars and track duty.
Balderbuilt engines - good for no more than 12 seconds of runtime or 1/4 mile drag track
So buy a sti or wait for the new sti to be out for couple years? I still have a WRX FA20. Also you don’t have AOS? Iag?
thats a big turbo for the turns, but goes real nice on the straight. E85?
You need to keep on mind you have a big front plate blocking the air in the inter cooler, that could be part of the overheat problem, i would recommend take the plate off at least on the track, btw car looks great and sounds healthy. Keep it up! :D
Yeah, I forgot to take it off, but that won't help reduce oil temps.
What gauge of oil you running? Always gotta run thicker oil at the track!
Awesome video man! Where can I get that tilted front license plate bracket?
1:38 Jay R's face. The most pogi guy with a clean Subaru WRX STi. 🇵🇭
Filipino ba sya?
@@jomsti4840 Filipino si Jay R. Kumain sya ng Lumpia sa isang Episode nya.
Of course! :)
Idol ko to pagdating sa car mod.
imposibleng pilipino xa. muka syang chinese oh vietnamese.
Subaru engines are placed so far in front of tue front axel that turning becomes quite difficult, with all that imbalanced inertia. That’s just physics. Hope they make a mid-engine STI someday.
Does the turbo feels lag? At what rpm come into boost?
Oil temp is too high even at 240. Need to have vent on hood to dissipate heat and bigger oil cooler
I will be interested to see what you can do with the oil temps. Seems like the major limiting factor right now.
First and foremost, try not to do a track day with 115 degree track temps lol.
I really love your front license plate bracket, what is it if you don’t mind me asking? I love your subie!
Super fun day, my dude. Glad the footage worked for you.
Why continue to rev it out when it's overheated? You're asking to pop a hose brother
We back at it again!!! I was wondering if you can wash your engine on a 2013 Subaru wrx STI ?
Sure can. Just be careful around the air filter and any open electrical connections.
My WRX Channel much appreciated bro❤️ and thank you for telling me this!
Just curious, what was the cost of the engine build? Am on the fence about modifying my engine gradually or just going for a built block from the start
You will need at least 10k to start.
Hey your looking for the radium dual hanger correct ? If you haven’t ordered one yet let me know on this comment I have one that hasn’t been used still in the box with 2 AEM fuel pumps .
On your track days - do you typically go for events or just kinda reserve/pay for time?
I sign up in advance.
Bummer about the heat, but otherwise looking great out on the track!
How much horse power is your new engine making?
Love it man... I'm thinking about building my engine as well... 🤙
a question how many cylinders have the Subaru WRX
What engine do you prefer to EJ order a fake
Fa20 t
11:24 did u make that urself or buy it? can i get a link if you bought it
What rear diffuser are you running? I need one that works with the jdm spats too 😭
Raffaele Najera ESC Fabrications
Awesome video and information for those looking to track their Subaru, keep em coming and awesome car btw.
220f coolant temps and you arent worried?
did you not apply silicone spray on the header wrap?
I thought there was a 3k mile break in process for a fresh built engine before starting to push it past 3K and 5K RPM!
The Truth There is so much debate on that topic.
Dang hopefully by next year or next track day you can get time you wanted🤙🏾
Remember kids: rally *inspired*, with emphasis on the 2nd word.
At the beginning of your video you said you were on a base tune. For future reference, you should never go hard on a base tune...that is how you damage parts. A base tune will allow it to run but it's primary purpose is to make it safe to data log to complete a dedicated tune. I see the video is 2 years old so this is probably irrelevant lol.
I'm wanting to buy Josh bader x stage build been waiting to find his price on long block
Love that turbo snake sound
ah yea... big power on the track... heat builds up very, very fast. and things popping out lol.
Awesome to watch the progress.
Subaru’s man... Subaru’s
You need an FP Green
Please show all sessions with commentary.
Oil cooler needed?
The gold wrap is growing on me.
I cant wait for your second Dyno.
How did your calipers not turn brown??????
The stock pads don't get hot enough.
No break in miles on the motor?
If the bores were plateau honed then no need for long break in miles.
I thought He said he put 1,000 miles on it?
1000
did you get a CSF oil cooler?
Get some coolers and instead of designing a car to look cool design it to work and cool efficiently then you get something unique and cool in the end
Was it running E85 on the track?
Yes
At your power levels you shouldn't even be trying to track the car... Honestly don't try this again without fitting a 25 row cooler - don't go with the small perrin cooler and definitely not the Mishimoto cooler kit. You really need a 25 row Mocal or Koyo cooler with custom lines. The combo RAD/Oil coolers are a really REALLY bad idea. The gold tape is a total waste of money especially as your IAT sensor is still in the MAF and I'd highly recommend you move to an SD tune and relocate your IAT sensor to the intake pipe just before the throttle body. You also shouldn't be wrapping your headers! Good luck man....
Why is it bad to wrap the header?
Yohan lo it’s a fire risk and it also can hold in moisture, cause corrosion and cracking of the header. The only suitable ‘wrap’ for a header is ceramic coating.
Yohan lo Issa fire hazard
...what's with the voice quality?
MAF or Speed Density?
Stiff MAF.
does the versus hood scoop delete fit on your hood set up?
Nope.
I spoke to OC Turbo joe about this hood www.marshcomposites.com/product/subaru-va-chassis-gtspec-f-type-hood
how is the re71r holding up
They held up great at the track. They start to get mushy after about 10-15 minutes into the session.
get the varis hood for ic front mount. varis.co.jp/varis/products/subaru/VAB_WRXVA/images/pho09.jpg
wanna see his face to the first time? 1:53
Car seems to rip around the track even without the proper fueling mods.
Additionally, CSF Radiator makes a radiator/ oil cooler combo that is MSRP of $650, I want to say venders have them for less than $600.
Go ETS
First?
Subaru is no longer as good as it used to be.....