A brief over view of the the techniques, materials, methods and safety considerations for installing aerial fiber. ADSS and Overlashed Fiber is discussed. Sponsored by Electric Conduit Construction.
Suggestion. Hang a reel of spider rope on a brake. And pull that through each pole while you’re framing. Then use spider rope on a capstan to pull in. The make up lead dead end and sag and clip in each pole back to your reel of fiber. All that mess with tying mule tape looks time consuming and a pain in the ass
Best thing I have found is pulling strand with a 4 wheeler or side by side across a quarter or half mile stretch. Or whatever is safe. Groundhand continually moves up one or two lineman with buckets while they frame the pole and attach clamps /strand and bond if need be. Roadside is best for this easement is different however
One can only wonder why a company thats so invested into placing cable, has no cable placing trucks….. I’m assuming the ADSS fiber they are placing is actually for the Power Company, and may be running from one substation to another, hence why its so high on the poles.
IBEW has no business installing Fiber or even touching Telco. I call BS on this. This is nothing more than to inflate the fee charged to the client. I've done this job and you don't need a crew of 12 or a dedicated spotter for someone in the bucket. Hell even our power crews don't do that. I will guarantee that a competent crew of 2 to 4 can run circles around these jokers anyday. Why do power companies not mess with telco? Because they don't need to. I will guarantee that the real world of this company is nothing like this video.
Your right the typical Crew (depending on the location of the installation) can be run well with 3 people… 2 grunts and a lineman, hell you can even run two lineman- two trucks and one ground hand. All depends on the job
why do you think the neighborhood across the bridge and further on down my neighborhood had fiber but my little circle has yet to get it, it seems as if they have all skipped over us and for no good reason i’ve seen a couple alabama power company trucks come but that was abt a couple weeks ago still haven’t done anything yet tho any thoughts on that ?
Apollo is superior in nearly every way. No downpressure required for it to lash which means no strand lock , you can reverse the rotation if it gets jammed and has no external cavities to get caught going through trees.
It depends what youre doing. The gmp J and c models are basically the same machine, one just having a larger cable capacity then the other. If youre always lashing fiber to bare strand, the C lasher is all you need. If you ever have to overlash fiber onto existing cables, especially larger bundles of cables - there will be instances the C wont physically fit onto them where the J would. The downside of those is the C and J lasher can overlash, but not that well compared to other models. The absolute most versatile lasher ive ever used is the GMP Apollo. It’ll do everything well, but its heavy compared to the C lasher. Where is really shines is through trees, and over lashing. The machine will even lash upside down, you can jump it over obstacles, and theres no brake on it like the C and J. All you need to do is pull it from any direction as long its moving forward. We lash using the trucks, not ground guys. The bucket can pull it from over, under, or on either side of the cables and it will work well. DCD seems to recently have released a new version lasher called the Falcon that looks interesting. To lash a 96 fiber to bare strand - ANY lasher will work, even that tiny lasher from GMP called the Sierra. Ive never used that one since its worthless for anything else, and it can only single lash as well.
Adss definatly the way to go. Why bother with a non self support option. Lash and wrap in my opinion fell away once a self suport long and short span cable was created. That was in the late 90's.
@@tadengleason8157why do you think the neighborhood across the bridge and further on down my neighborhood had fiber but my little circle has yet to get it, it seems as if they have all skipped over us and for no good reason i’ve seen a couple alabama power company trucks come but that was abt a week ago still haven’t done anything yet tho any thoughts on that ?
So do you guys use high voltage electric lineman for fiber in the power zone?? I’m a union lineman in New York. The commu😅guys can only work on the fiber in the comms space. There is a bunch of utility owned self supported fiber in the power zone between primary and secondary. That have us do the maintenance and any work on power zone fiber because they are not qualified to work in the power zone. Need to go through a union apprenticeship for high voltage training. I’m a journeyman lineman. Fiber is fun. Easy peasy
What happens if, as a result of an accident, 1 or more of the poles are destroyed? Wouldn't this process be more guaranteed if you go underground and leave fiber collection points in certain regions and fiber cable excess shares in certain regions? Why don't you prefer underground?. This is a situation we come across a lot. traffic accidents and cars hitting the poles are tractors trucks trucks. and this time it really takes more time. but underground, such situations do not occur. In the underground cabling, cable share points are created every 100 meters, and 10 meters of cable allowances are left at these points. In addition, in cases such as natural disasters and earthquakes, the cable can stretch underground, since the cable shares are left. it prevents it from breaking. In addition, collection points determined in the buildings are created. this is the best part of your work.
Underground costs more in equipment overhead, is still prone to damage from other excavation and takes a lot of extra work breaking through the frost line to either repair or continue installation into the winter.
Nahhh you don’t need a roller every 4 feet lol.. it wastes time… especially in a open area like that… in this area I’d leave like 20-30 feet of space before adding a roller, makes it easier to lash too
why do you think the neighborhood across the bridge and further on down my neighborhood had fiber but my little circle has yet to get it, it seems as if they have all skipped over us and for no good reason i’ve seen a couple alabama power company trucks come but that was abt a week ago still haven’t done anything yet tho any thoughts on that ?
@@iamnobodyy_ it depends on the company your getting your wifi from, back when I was working we would pull cables only on certain streets that had the most customers, however u could call your wifi and ask if they have fiber around your area, if they do’ They will send a splicer who can personally connect the fiber cables to your house. Also depends if you have power lines or Conduits around your area that are connected to a completely different Hub
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why do you think the neighborhood across the bridge and further on down my neighborhood had fiber but my little circle has yet to get it, it seems as if they have all skipped over us and for no good reason i’ve seen a couple alabama power company trucks come but that was abt a week ago still haven’t done anything yet tho any thoughts on that ?
Depends on how many times the inspectors shut the job down for the day because a guy's boots came untied... in all seriousness, that's a question that just cant be answered very easily. Too many unknown factors. ex. Underground construct: Rocky ground slows a project wayyy down. I've seen 100' drill shots take days. Aerial: makeready (moving other cables up or down to make room, trimming trees..just to name a couple.
Companies use many factors to determine where they will build first. Demographics is a major one.. Do they feel that residents in that area will purchase the service. If 'no' then the area won't get fiber. For example: There was a project in WA that I was involved with on the planning stage, a predominantly low income mobile home park was skipped completely, while the rest of the area was planned to be serviced. sad but true. Other factors may include speed of build. Are the ground conditions easier to dig/drill in than others. Are there less attachments on the poles meaning less makeready is needed.@@iamnobodyy_
The guy speaking sounds so bored and like he's done with his job lmao
You buggin
Suggestion. Hang a reel of spider rope on a brake. And pull that through each pole while you’re framing. Then use spider rope on a capstan to pull in. The make up lead dead end and sag and clip in each pole back to your reel of fiber. All that mess with tying mule tape looks time consuming and a pain in the ass
Best thing I have found is pulling strand with a 4 wheeler or side by side across a quarter or half mile stretch. Or whatever is safe. Groundhand continually moves up one or two lineman with buckets while they frame the pole and attach clamps /strand and bond if need be. Roadside is best for this easement is different however
Attaching down guys as well. Once you get in a groove you knock spans out quickly and easily
Exactly how we run our jobs. leads to us running 15 thousand feet some days
Ibew always so clean and organized 🤘🏻
IBEW 191 brother.
great video
Im so glad i work in commercial buildings
One can only wonder why a company thats so invested into placing cable, has no cable placing trucks…..
I’m assuming the ADSS fiber they are placing is actually for the Power Company, and may be running from one substation to another, hence why its so high on the poles.
We install according to the customers design drawings and specifications.
methods used for laying aerial cables?
The use of fiber optic help prevent leak and fear about nut and bolt screw hacking
Messenger wire same as strand on lashed fiber ? If a new fiber goes up after….can you lash a new fiber to adss ?
prime example of hourly vs production. that was straight drive off. could have been framing, and tensioning off all at once. free money.
The lashing wire being secured to the bugnut was hard to watch.
IBEW has no business installing Fiber or even touching Telco. I call BS on this. This is nothing more than to inflate the fee charged to the client. I've done this job and you don't need a crew of 12 or a dedicated spotter for someone in the bucket. Hell even our power crews don't do that. I will guarantee that a competent crew of 2 to 4 can run circles around these jokers anyday. Why do power companies not mess with telco? Because they don't need to. I will guarantee that the real world of this company is nothing like this video.
Your right the typical Crew (depending on the location of the installation) can be run well with 3 people… 2 grunts and a lineman, hell you can even run two lineman- two trucks and one ground hand. All depends on the job
why do you think the neighborhood across the bridge and further on down my neighborhood had fiber but my little circle has yet to get it, it seems as if they have all skipped over us and for no good reason i’ve seen a couple alabama power company trucks come but that was abt a couple weeks ago still haven’t done anything yet tho any thoughts on that ?
Exactly
What model is the cable lasher.can you use a C or a J2..for fiber optic ....for 96 strangs
Either, normally the c lasher is used on easements since it’s lighter for the climber to transfer on hooks.
Apollo is superior in nearly every way. No downpressure required for it to lash which means no strand lock , you can reverse the rotation if it gets jammed and has no external cavities to get caught going through trees.
@@jacobmarley2417 you're insane 😂
@@leezy7787 I am guessing you have never overlashed. That alone makes apollo superior equipment.
It depends what youre doing. The gmp J and c models are basically the same machine, one just having a larger cable capacity then the other. If youre always lashing fiber to bare strand, the C lasher is all you need. If you ever have to overlash fiber onto existing cables, especially larger bundles of cables - there will be instances the C wont physically fit onto them where the J would. The downside of those is the C and J lasher can overlash, but not that well compared to other models. The absolute most versatile lasher ive ever used is the GMP Apollo. It’ll do everything well, but its heavy compared to the C lasher. Where is really shines is through trees, and over lashing. The machine will even lash upside down, you can jump it over obstacles, and theres no brake on it like the C and J. All you need to do is pull it from any direction as long its moving forward. We lash using the trucks, not ground guys. The bucket can pull it from over, under, or on either side of the cables and it will work well. DCD seems to recently have released a new version lasher called the Falcon that looks interesting. To lash a 96 fiber to bare strand - ANY lasher will work, even that tiny lasher from GMP called the Sierra. Ive never used that one since its worthless for anything else, and it can only single lash as well.
Nice video like job
Adss definatly the way to go. Why bother with a non self support option. Lash and wrap in my opinion fell away once a self suport long and short span cable was created. That was in the late 90's.
Hello sir Ji can you please help me
This was painfull to watch.
Sorry, we are not in the entertainment business
@@MM-br6qh we built 1000 miles this year. The power company said it would take 3 years. They were very entertained
Same as a subcontractor we turned a 10 year project into4 years 15 guys
@@tadengleason8157why do you think the neighborhood across the bridge and further on down my neighborhood had fiber but my little circle has yet to get it, it seems as if they have all skipped over us and for no good reason i’ve seen a couple alabama power company trucks come but that was abt a week ago still haven’t done anything yet tho any thoughts on that ?
@@MM-br6qhyou're not in the fiber building business either
Non union craftsmen do higher quality work.
I’m running my first big fiber job as foreman and haven’t done much aerial installs so this has been immensely helpful! IBEW strong!
6 to 12 crew members HAHAHAHAHA
Defiantly not by the GO95 handbook..
Why you dont use self supporting cables ? This method seems to me way too long and not effective
Did you miss the literal second half of the video?
@@telecastky i havent watched that bcs it seems to me slow, not efficient and expensive
@@telecastky drop cable is very good
@@michalfurberger511 not really
@@michalfurberger511 they covered self supporting cable in the second half. Pay attention
respect~ nice work!
Great usage of cones for the video !!!
Some of the loosest strand I have ever seen.
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Fiber optic cable good job
So do you guys use high voltage electric lineman for fiber in the power zone?? I’m a union lineman in New York. The commu😅guys can only work on the fiber in the comms space. There is a bunch of utility owned self supported fiber in the power zone between primary and secondary. That have us do the maintenance and any work on power zone fiber because they are not qualified to work in the power zone. Need to go through a union apprenticeship for high voltage training. I’m a journeyman lineman. Fiber is fun. Easy peasy
Easy because you don't know what you're doing sparky. Union lineman 😂
@@BulletSerenade ok buddy
What happens if, as a result of an accident, 1 or more of the poles are destroyed? Wouldn't this process be more guaranteed if you go underground and leave fiber collection points in certain regions and fiber cable excess shares in certain regions? Why don't you prefer underground?. This is a situation we come across a lot. traffic accidents and cars hitting the poles are tractors trucks trucks. and this time it really takes more time. but underground, such situations do not occur. In the underground cabling, cable share points are created every 100 meters, and 10 meters of cable allowances are left at these points. In addition, in cases such as natural disasters and earthquakes, the cable can stretch underground, since the cable shares are left. it prevents it from breaking. In addition, collection points determined in the buildings are created. this is the best part of your work.
Underground costs more in equipment overhead, is still prone to damage from other excavation and takes a lot of extra work breaking through the frost line to either repair or continue installation into the winter.
Nahhh you don’t need a roller every 4 feet lol.. it wastes time… especially in a open area like that… in this area I’d leave like 20-30 feet of space before adding a roller, makes it easier to lash too
why do you think the neighborhood across the bridge and further on down my neighborhood had fiber but my little circle has yet to get it, it seems as if they have all skipped over us and for no good reason i’ve seen a couple alabama power company trucks come but that was abt a week ago still haven’t done anything yet tho any thoughts on that ?
@@iamnobodyy_ it depends on the company your getting your wifi from, back when I was working we would pull cables only on certain streets that had the most customers, however u could call your wifi and ask if they have fiber around your area, if they do’ They will send a splicer who can personally connect the fiber cables to your house.
Also depends if you have power lines or Conduits around your area that are connected to a completely different Hub
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How long does fiber construction take because so far I seen them feeding the cables underground
So what’s the next step they have to do after feeding the cables underground
It all depends on your area. Cable can be in the air, underground, or both.
why do you think the neighborhood across the bridge and further on down my neighborhood had fiber but my little circle has yet to get it, it seems as if they have all skipped over us and for no good reason i’ve seen a couple alabama power company trucks come but that was abt a week ago still haven’t done anything yet tho any thoughts on that ?
Depends on how many times the inspectors shut the job down for the day because a guy's boots came untied... in all seriousness, that's a question that just cant be answered very easily. Too many unknown factors. ex. Underground construct: Rocky ground slows a project wayyy down. I've seen 100' drill shots take days. Aerial: makeready (moving other cables up or down to make room, trimming trees..just to name a couple.
Companies use many factors to determine where they will build first. Demographics is a major one.. Do they feel that residents in that area will purchase the service. If 'no' then the area won't get fiber. For example: There was a project in WA that I was involved with on the planning stage, a predominantly low income mobile home park was skipped completely, while the rest of the area was planned to be serviced. sad but true. Other factors may include speed of build. Are the ground conditions easier to dig/drill in than others. Are there less attachments on the poles meaning less makeready is needed.@@iamnobodyy_
Nice drone work! We like it!