Been a kings fan since 1985, the year I was born and the team came to sac, parents took me to Arco 1 as baby. Went through the dark 90s , had season tickets though early 2000s and playoff runs. Think now is the right time to trade Fox and balance the roster, get some size and defense.
My man Sheldon is all over it!!! 👏🏽 Love it and appreciate his informative video 🙏🏽 As a Spurs fan I'm sitting around constantly checking my phone salivating to see if we are going to get Fox!🤞🏽
Love the breakdown most non Kings fans that make videos about the kings dont do research on whats been going on and just spew nonsense, Great informative video
Let's make things look realistic. Spurs will make a trade for Fox 100%. But they won't make a trade with Kings without third team. IMO, I prefer it to be Pelicans. Especially when Murray is out of season now. Pelicans get: DV+J.Champagnie+A.Len+D.McDermott 2025 Bulls 1rd pick 2031 Kings 2rd pick Kings get: BI+Tre Jones 2026 Hawks 1rd pick swap right 2027 Bucks 1rd pick swap right 2031 their own 1rd pick swap right back Spurs get: Fox+Herb Jones
@@anythingoutdoor245 thanks for your message. Maybe I'm joking. But if Kings can take back their pick, plus Hawks' pick swap right(it's almost a lottery pick), I think it's a benefit trade for a win now mode team when Fox in this situation. You couldn't imagine this trade just like D.Mitchell's.
For Fox to cover playing in San Antonio is a cool move and speaks volumes about the organization, particularly considering Popovich likely will be back in a limited capacity,if at all. It's somewhat a (smart) leap of faith.
Thank you, Utility sports thank you for taking the time out of your day to make my day better. Haven’t even gotten into a video yet.🎉🎉🎉 Go spurs go!!!!!
Good podcast! I was a season ticket holder from 1985 until 2013, and have watched most of the games over the past 12 years. Lots of downs (and a few ups from 2001-2006). I hope we can work trades involving Fox, Huerter and Lyles(probably two separate transactions) , for a starter (from Huerter, Lyles and draft pick), and draft picks (2firsts), Vassel or Sochan + Castle for Fox. Probably requires 3-4 teams to pull this off.
The problem is teams don’t want to give up much for a 1 year rental. So it takes a team who is willing to sign the contract he wants and then he has to agree.
If Kings manage to grab Sochan & either Castle or Vassell(not to mention picks) i dont think they need a full rebuild. Statistically the Kings have played better when Fox isnt the primary player on the court. PER 100 possessions theyre 26 points better on 6/7 less attempts offensively, i dont remember the defensive numbers. 😅 Kings fan since 1998
I still say the Spurs are not doing a major in-season trade. But if they can get Fox NOW w/o giving up Castle, Sochan and the two Hawks picks in '25 and '26 Drafts, then I'd be good with it. Spurs would be stupid to include the Hawks picks for Fox. Those picks have been part of the Spurs rebuild plans ever since they hijacked the Hawks for those picks in that Murray trade.
So far, the players from the Nets that have been traded, their scoring averages have dropped significantly. Bring in Cam Johnson. Don't expect him to average 18 points a game.
I've been a Kings fan since out the womb grew up in Sac and still here now in my 20s. I've followed the Kings my entire life but wayy more closely the past 4 seasons, I love De''aaron and just finally bought his jersey last year but I'm also not oblivious to the fact that he isn't a great leader, he's inconsistent, and has somewhat of a turnover problem which is stopping him becoming an actual superstar. What I truly want to happen is we trade Fox and build around Sabonis, Monk moves to PG since his chemistry with Sabonis is amazing especially in the pick and roll, we add a straight catch and shoot sharpshooter at the 2 with Keon coming off the bench with his insane defense and great passing, add a solid 3nD to our bench, and I truly believe we can perform for the rest of the season and into the playoffs. De'aaron won't have to share the ball back and forth with Demar since the pacing is obviously off when they're on the floor together
Thanks for putting out a kings trade guide that is thoughtful and realistic. I think you’re spot on and this is the path that the front office is attempting to execute. Sell Fox, but also add to the team, maybe even with the some of assets they pick up in a fox deal.
Hot take. Malik Monk is a much better fit with Wembanyama and especially Castle. He’s the reason the Kings can avoid a rebuild. He’s one of the best replacements a team could have.
I doubt the Spurs budge on trading Castle, he's untouchable. The Spurs have no pressure to trade now when they are rebuilding and can just as easily sign Fox when he becomes a FA. Fox wants to sign in SA. His wife being from SA is motivating if not his desire to team up w/ Wemby.
The best-case scenario is the Kings trading for an impact wing and backup center and battle their way up standings and make a run in the playoffs. Then clean house and fire Monte McNair and Wes Wilcox. Hopefully, then Fox signs a long-term contract.
Somehow get rid of Vivek and get a real owner in there who knows how to manage an organization. All of this is just putting lipstick on a pig until Vivek is gone. Born in 1982, been a fan for as long as I can remember.
@@brucecurtis6910 you are higher on Haliburton now? Because I'd rather have Sabonis right now based on the size being the most sought after skill between him & Haliburton and Haliburton leading one of the worst defenses through his career with the Pacers. And again my argument is we make this upgrade to Fox while keeping Castle, or if Sac only does the deal with Castle we just keep him & wait for the next trade or just draft & develop still early in our rebuild. Just wasn't sure what to apply from your take to my Spurs now
The SAC isn’t getting much. He’s a FA and will join SAS in 2026 and they won’t have to trade anything at all SAS isn’t ready for the playoffs no need to pick fox up and force others out like Castle, Vassell or Sochan. And like come on, you won’t get any of the 2025 picks except maybe the Charlotte pick which likely won’t convey and the Chicago pick which should be 11-14. Take KJ, Collins, Branham and the Charlotte and Chicago pick and be happy you get something. No way we sell the future for a guy who can’t defend or shoot 3s. I’d rather trade the whole team besides by for Trey Young or D. Garland. I think ATL would trade him straight up for their 3 FR picks back
He is going to do a Butler if he doesn’t get a new contract. Just look what happened to Murray he just tore his ACL he does not want that to happen before he gets a new contract
Been a kings fan since 1985, the year I was born and the team came to sac, parents took me to Arco 1 as baby. Went through the dark 90s , had season tickets though early 2000s and playoff runs. Think now is the right time to trade Fox and balance the roster, get some size and defense.
My man Sheldon is all over it!!! 👏🏽 Love it and appreciate his informative video 🙏🏽 As a Spurs fan I'm sitting around constantly checking my phone salivating to see if we are going to get Fox!🤞🏽
Sam! GOSPURSGO!
Love the breakdown most non Kings fans that make videos about the kings dont do research on whats been going on and just spew nonsense, Great informative video
I've been a Kings fan since 1986..We moved from Sacramento to Indiana,so now I'm a Kings/Pacers fan💯
Then u are wishy washy
lol kind of funny
@@jimmyjames4367what?!
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@@keyshonjones901 totally joking mate
Let's make things look realistic.
Spurs will make a trade for Fox 100%.
But they won't make a trade with Kings without third team.
IMO, I prefer it to be Pelicans.
Especially when Murray is out of season now.
Pelicans get:
DV+J.Champagnie+A.Len+D.McDermott
2025 Bulls 1rd pick
2031 Kings 2rd pick
Kings get:
BI+Tre Jones
2026 Hawks 1rd pick swap right
2027 Bucks 1rd pick swap right
2031 their own 1rd pick swap right back
Spurs get:
Fox+Herb Jones
Dumb trade for kings.
@@anythingoutdoor245
thanks for your message.
Maybe I'm joking.
But if Kings can take back their pick,
plus Hawks' pick swap right(it's almost a lottery pick),
I think it's a benefit trade for a win now mode team when Fox in this situation.
You couldn't imagine this trade just like
D.Mitchell's.
Atleast we did better than your prediction 😭😭
@@Thawalka4
You're right.
B.Right's 100% better than me in this case. That him cooked.
As a spurs fan we not giving up Castle
Good call 😭😭😭
For Fox to cover playing in San Antonio is a cool move and speaks volumes about the organization, particularly considering Popovich likely will be back in a limited capacity,if at all. It's somewhat a (smart) leap of faith.
Can’t wait for the live stream man!🎉🎉
Love all these vids but were you making a video about the hawks coming soon?
great video
Nice vid
Thank you, Utility sports thank you for taking the time out of your day to make my day better. Haven’t even gotten into a video yet.🎉🎉🎉 Go spurs go!!!!!
Good podcast!
I was a season ticket holder from 1985 until 2013, and have watched most of the games over the past 12 years. Lots of downs (and a few ups from 2001-2006).
I hope we can work trades involving Fox, Huerter and Lyles(probably two separate transactions) , for a starter (from Huerter, Lyles and draft pick), and draft picks (2firsts), Vassel or Sochan + Castle for Fox.
Probably requires 3-4 teams to pull this off.
What I heard the Spurs don't want to trade any of their young core players for Fox. Only their veterans and draft picks for him.
Trade him to other teams instead of spurs unless spurs will give in what we want from
The problem is teams don’t want to give up much for a 1 year rental. So it takes a team who is willing to sign the contract he wants and then he has to agree.
We? We 😂 if Spurs fold it would be a crying shame 🫠
If Kings manage to grab Sochan & either Castle or Vassell(not to mention picks) i dont think they need a full rebuild. Statistically the Kings have played better when Fox isnt the primary player on the court. PER 100 possessions theyre 26 points better on 6/7 less attempts offensively, i dont remember the defensive numbers. 😅
Kings fan since 1998
Vassell, Collins, Johnson for Fox would be great for the Spurs. There is not federal income tax in Texas either.
Only be interested in cam johnson but for a reasonable trade😊
We will trade him and try to get back the right pieces to stay competitive. If we trade him and still make the playoffs it's all gravy baby.
2/2/2025 Spurs are trading Devin or KJ and draft picks , zach and malaki could be on the deal maybe even Julian C.
Go spurs Go and castle isn’t moving
Let's goooooo kings! Been a fan since I was 8 years old. Also let's get rid of Alex len too
Kings fan since 1987
I still say the Spurs are not doing a major in-season trade. But if they can get Fox NOW w/o giving up Castle, Sochan and the two Hawks picks in '25 and '26 Drafts, then I'd be good with it. Spurs would be stupid to include the Hawks picks for Fox. Those picks have been part of the Spurs rebuild plans ever since they hijacked the Hawks for those picks in that Murray trade.
So far, the players from the Nets that have been traded, their scoring averages have dropped significantly. Bring in Cam Johnson. Don't expect him to average 18 points a game.
From Iowa only been kings fan since Keegan since then haven't missed a game
I've been a Kings fan since out the womb grew up in Sac and still here now in my 20s. I've followed the Kings my entire life but wayy more closely the past 4 seasons, I love De''aaron and just finally bought his jersey last year but I'm also not oblivious to the fact that he isn't a great leader, he's inconsistent, and has somewhat of a turnover problem which is stopping him becoming an actual superstar.
What I truly want to happen is we trade Fox and build around Sabonis, Monk moves to PG since his chemistry with Sabonis is amazing especially in the pick and roll, we add a straight catch and shoot sharpshooter at the 2 with Keon coming off the bench with his insane defense and great passing, add a solid 3nD to our bench, and I truly believe we can perform for the rest of the season and into the playoffs. De'aaron won't have to share the ball back and forth with Demar since the pacing is obviously off when they're on the floor together
Castle is not on the table and that's 💯 percent and obviously Wemby. Everyone else plus picks are available. GSG AREA 51...
Thanks for putting out a kings trade guide that is thoughtful and realistic. I think you’re spot on and this is the path that the front office is attempting to execute. Sell Fox, but also add to the team, maybe even with the some of assets they pick up in a fox deal.
Hot take. Malik Monk is a much better fit with Wembanyama and especially Castle.
He’s the reason the Kings can avoid a rebuild. He’s one of the best replacements a team could have.
As a kings fan, trade Fox for Barnes Champagne and Zach Collins and 3 unprotected first
If those 3 firsts are not the two Hawks, that's be great. But Kings are not stupid. They can get a better deal from the Spurs than that.
Fox is a Robin to someone's Batman.
I doubt the Spurs budge on trading Castle, he's untouchable. The Spurs have no pressure to trade now when they are rebuilding and can just as easily sign Fox when he becomes a FA. Fox wants to sign in SA. His wife being from SA is motivating if not his desire to team up w/ Wemby.
They won't. "Area 51" is going to be a dangerous duo in 2 more years.
Kings fan since like 2010. This trade must be centered around picks/young player they like. I think we will mess it up though
35 years it is hard out here 🙏🙏🙏
The best-case scenario is the Kings trading for an impact wing and backup center and battle their way up standings and make a run in the playoffs. Then clean house and fire Monte McNair and Wes Wilcox. Hopefully, then Fox signs a long-term contract.
Fox is history. It's either this year or next year. He wants to be in Texas b/c that is home.
After 2 years of inaction Monte McNair needs to hit an absolute home run or he will be thrown out of the stadium!
the problem of the sacramento kings are the ownership c'mon😡
Since 1985.
Somehow get rid of Vivek and get a real owner in there who knows how to manage an organization. All of this is just putting lipstick on a pig until Vivek is gone.
Born in 1982, been a fan for as long as I can remember.
Before I even listen to this I want Castle out of the deal and out of the thumbnail not even discussed lol
💯💯💯
For the record, as a Kings fan, I had the same feelings about Haliburton. That said, it might not go as you hope…
@@brucecurtis6910 the difference is the organizations, and I trust mine. #porvida go Spurs go!!!!!!
@@brucecurtis6910 you are higher on Haliburton now? Because I'd rather have Sabonis right now based on the size being the most sought after skill between him & Haliburton and Haliburton leading one of the worst defenses through his career with the Pacers. And again my argument is we make this upgrade to Fox while keeping Castle, or if Sac only does the deal with Castle we just keep him & wait for the next trade or just draft & develop still early in our rebuild. Just wasn't sure what to apply from your take to my Spurs now
My prediction is that the Kings won't sniff the NBA finals for at least another 25 years.
As a kings fan…… shut up 😂
Back to the KCO days
Sochan and any other player plus 4 No.1s, for Fox. I would do it.
Toronto has a top 5 or better pick if Fox goes to Spurs maybe one of their picks can be swapped with Toronto while sending DeRozan to Toronto
For 50 years
Fox wanted to be traded without saying i wanna be traded.
DO TGE GRIZZLIES NEXT
I got you!
Ill rather do a deal with nets cam thomas cam johnson nick collins for fox and lyes
Okc fan.
The SAC isn’t getting much.
He’s a FA and will join SAS in 2026 and they won’t have to trade anything at all
SAS isn’t ready for the playoffs no need to pick fox up and force others out like Castle, Vassell or Sochan. And like come on, you won’t get any of the 2025 picks except maybe the Charlotte pick which likely won’t convey and the Chicago pick which should be 11-14.
Take KJ, Collins, Branham and the Charlotte and Chicago pick and be happy you get something. No way we sell the future for a guy who can’t defend or shoot 3s. I’d rather trade the whole team besides by for Trey Young or D. Garland. I think ATL would trade him straight up for their 3 FR picks back
There’s no guarantee the deal will be with the Spurs so we gonna get ours regardless lol
He is going to do a Butler if he doesn’t get a new contract. Just look what happened to Murray he just tore his ACL he does not want that to happen before he gets a new contract