The king would be present in the battle area but actually in the fight, not as common as I'd imagine, sure kings would march with their armies as moral support, if the king dies what happens? Moral breaks and the kingly led army falls apart. Not the smartest move to go into the fight to die but Leonidas knew once he was dead in the hands of the Persians, Beheaded, Greece would answer back. So he did have the balls to fight a losing battle, but knew it would not be in vain
The Spartans actually had two Kings, only one of which would go to war at any one time, solely because of the problem of the disorganisation regicide brings to a people, especially a martial people like the Spartans.
@@Povsa_Well In the game he wanted the world to know what he and is 300 soldiers did against the Persian empire while in real life I'm pretty sure he just wanted to fight the Persian force because he didn't want the Persians to control his land which the Persians first needed to conquer past and the only reason the we know about them is because of both the Greeks and Persians remember them in there paintings, books and sculpture and the reason the world knows them is because of there legendary battle at Thermopylae.
Spartans are just built different. And in AC universe is cuz he is an isu bloodline. Ezio Auditore was about 57 in revelations and still moved swiftly. That isu blood is no joke
funny thing about the battle, people romanticise it far too much, the olympics were on so only 300 ish spartans could be spared to go fight since nobody wanted to miss it, along with a few thousand other greek soldiers, not to mention xerxes spent his whole life planning this invasion.... not once did he think to improve the weapons and armour of his troops, so the superior spartan equipment cut through their wicker shields like butter
@@vanillaicecream2385 It was around 1300 spartans in history, with greek allies bringing the total number up to around 7000 troops on the greek side at the battle of thermopylae
@jürgen samoilov. Do your research and you will find the answers. Humans have had much worse diseases then covid and not once ever their have been lock downs to my knowledge and even in war's when bombs were dropping from the sky's. That's my opinion. And you have yours.
People remember propaganda after thousands of years. The Spartans weren't "elite warriors" who were the "best of the best". They were a slavery driven society of aristocratic elites whose only real contribution to warfare was flexible small unit tactics and psychological warfare through propaganda and flashy displays. Their track record during times of war was average, and the battle of Thermopylae was an absolute failure which lead to the sacking and massacre of Athens, there was absolutely no victory here. The hot gates was believed by the coalition (yes, it was a Greek coalition, not just Spartans running around) to be their best hope against a land invasion due to the massive strategic advantage they offered to their ground forces. The high rocky terrain would force Xerxes to launch a frontal assault every time into a tiny (and I mean T I N Y) gap which could very easily be pushed back and stalled as well as reinforced as per need. The fact that the Greek coalition messed up despite such advantages isn't a cause for celebration, it's humiliation. People also forget the smaller states that contributed hundreds of valuable soldiers during the last stand despite suffering greater consequences in recovering their losses later. What I find extremely ironic is the Idea that this was a fight against oppression, when Sparta was replete with slaves and their brutal abuse and murder wasn't just a commonality, it was tradition.
When you think about it they have achieved legend status. Their story is remembered in songs and plays (movies and video games) they have truly achieved legend status
spartans were aple to fight 100 persians by themselves one spartan was aple to kill 100 persians. they even broke their shields with their bare hands they broke the body in 2 and im seirous
It is said in-game an Oracle told Leonidas that Sparta would either lose its freedom or its king, so...yeah, he probably wasn’t worried about coming home without it.
The Shield was very heavy, so if one were to run away, they would lose their shield to go faster. But I think there is an exception when it’s lodged in another soldiers skull.
Talia Skinner actually spartan soldiers were trained to combat anyway to survive and make anything a weapon so they actually used there shields to help give them an edge
I was so excited for combat after this cutscene but the combat is so stupid looking Literally looks like a mobile game Why’s reallu shockifn is that Ubisoft is the same company that made this game and for honor and in for honor a lot of the combat looks real enough and is passable so what makes me cringe is how stupid it looks here Bro don’t even get me started on how retarded the combat with the javelin is A spear is for stabbing and not whipping it around like a toy Da fuq It’s not a pole staff
specially because it doesn't seem to have that shitty arbitrary thing of Assassin's Creed where "everybody that was cool in history was an assassin, and everybody who wasn't was a 'templar'"
Leonidas died early on during the final day of fighting and the most brutal battles were over his body. The persians wanted to take it for Xerxes and the spartans wanted to keep it safe for burial. Apprantley, they lost his body and regained it 3 times until they were all wiped out. Shame they didn't show that. EDIT: The reason this is know is that the spartans weren't the only soldiers there. They were being backed up by 2,000ish other Greek soldiers. When they learned that they had been betrayed and were being surrounded, they sent the other Greeks away. Some of them watched the battle play out from a distance.
@Virgil Hardjo Hellenic soldiers are elite Persian soldiers. That's what he's referring to.overall there were tens to hundreds of thousands of soldiers
Virgil Hardjo technically it was only 300 of the Spartan Peers who were assigned. But each Spartan Peer had at least two squires to help them in battle in real life. Plus take into account the allies that helped them. In reality it was about 4 thousand Greeks in total that fought at Thermopylae
@nikola poyukov bruh u getting that last part from the movie. How ever I watch a documentary on it and they did fight over his body to preserve it idk how it all went down but the fact that they did that is fucking badass bro whay other king do you know that his soldiers where fighting till the last man just to try and keep their kings body just goes to show how much of true warriors they were. Respect to that regardless of how it went down
I think Leonidas and Alexander are both legends of epic proportions, Leonidas saving Greece from Persia means Alexander could one day flourish and conquer Persia as payback.
@@ilikecookingapplejuice5699 you dont even know about the history do you?Xerxes after killing leonidas and burning the athen returned to iran May i ask how did he failed?
Leonidas is a true born leader, someone who stands for what they fight for, even knowing the odds he went into a great battle with his Spartan bodyguard and man the battle truly was remembered for thousands of years.
This is true, after the battle 2 spartans survived Pantites who was sent as a messager to thessali and Aristodamus who has eye infection. Pantites commit suicide out of shame and Aristodamus try to have a honorable death in Platea but survived there too. They say he fight like a maniac and out of formation so he can die and after the battle Pausanias the Spartan king shame him for this act.
I personally like how this version of the battle somewhat mixes history and Herodotus’ account (what 300 used) together. Leonidas’ age is used correctly, the Spartans are dressed appropriately. Herodotus himself in-game even mentions the aftermath with Leonidas’ body. Where they really went wrong was adding their own custom elements like Leonidas throwing his shield.
giotispaok21 you completely misunderstood my points, Spartans were well trained, they had determination, they were better equips and had superior made weaponries, all of those were indeed important, but the most important part of them holding the line for as long as they did was tactic and strategy, choosing to fight where they did to put the numbers out of the equation, and having a battle formation to completely fill the narrow passage, and switching the front line every few minutes and take turns holding the front with the back rest, if they broke formations like this and went balls deep like here or in the movies, and even charged out of the narrow passageway, they would have been done within hours if not minutes, not days, but alas, neither movie or game makers knows how to show a good strategic battle formation so they just show big bad Spartans spitting up and charging out into the open,
giotispaok21 I know enough to know while guts is important in battle, that alone would not have been enough to turn a tide with that level of numerical disadvantage, the Spartans has much better armor, and much better weapon despite the movie showing them as almost naked in a fight , and even those alone wouldn’t have help if they didn’t force the Persians to fight in a narrow place and had the actual tactic and formation for such a terrain
giotispaok21, there were between 5 thousand to 7 thousand Greeks who held the pass, only 300 of them were Spartans (more or less). And there weren't a million Persians though their numbers were still insanely higher than the Greeks.
Giotispaok21, uhhhh no, there were far more than that. It's estimated that there were 700 thespians, and several hundred Thebians who held the pass on the final day whilst the remainder of some thousands retreated back to their cities, but other than that I don't even think you even know what you're talking about. Ancient sources told me this, by the way.
Dylan Fontaine yeah in reality the shitty persian arrows literally bounced off greek bronze armor and shields. Leonidas also didnt live to the end of the battle either
+BandoLando Mhm, and the Persian light infantry's shields were made of wicker, so the spears went straight through. The Persian army was predominantly tuned towards fighting people with arrows like their's, so their shields were extremely light for tribal warfare and that was extremely sucky against Greek hoplites.
@@kxloux8466 well this isn't necessarily true. Everyone talks about how the Spartans would have stayed in a phalanx formation but it's actually believed they would stay in formation, make a false retreat, then when overconfident Persians pursued they'd break formation and slaughter them.
Spartans: **Fought in the phalanx formation** Ubisoft: Nah fam. Historical battle strategies are lame. Just have them suddenly break formation in the middle of battle.
To be honest, phalanges would not make for very fun gameplay so I'm glad they did it the way they did. I only wish that in a mission or something, if you were overlooking a battle you would see accurate formation, shame.
@@marcoazoz4963 Absolutely. Although maybe 5% of people playing the game would be interested in the historical accuracy of a slow moving, but heavy hitting phalanx, the other 95% would just be bored.
@@kingtorrhenstarkstark5311 how about slashing the back of the knee, the nape, upward slash at the armpits, etc.? That's how you use a short sword on a battle with multiple enemies. Especially when you spotted a ranking officer with his back wide open!
I must say, it certainly was touching to hear King Leonidas say he wished he could have gone fishing with his son, I thought Spartans only knew war and lived simply to fight and die and that any relationships were only with their fellow soldiers, I had no idea they were that close with their families, etc. This was enlightening for sure!
During the game, there is a chance that when killing a Spartan soldier they will drop a letter and a mission which gives the location of a treasure with all the belongings he left for his osna. The letter is his testament
And in the fate of Atlantis dlc when Kassandra/Alexios is sent by Persephone to kill leonidas in elisiyum leonidas asks to go fishing cuz he’s his grandfather
If a Spartan got rid of his shield during battle that meant he forfeit and it symbolizes weakness which is why they used to say: “come home with your shield, or on it” Edit: Why tf do I have so many like
I'm pretty sure that phrase was used to Spartans as a sign of dignity, which meant if victorious, come back with your shield, and if you you died, you'll die coming back to Sparta on it. Which didn't actually go with a sign of weakness, it was considered a sign of weakness if you left a battle and let your fellow Spartans to die, one story including that a Spartan once left a battle and when he returned, his family and himself were bullied, eventually leading the Coward to commit suicide.
Only 1 thing wrong. When Leonidas died he was still surrounded by 50 spartans. Who later grabbed his sword, shield and body and raised it into the air yelling "Molon Labe!!!!"
@@arky1790 called historical accounts friend. Something Americans are unaware of. If it isn't in a video game or movie it does not exist in the American mind
8000 Greeks stood at that field when a retreat was ordered by Leonidas 1000 stayed and held them off long enough for the rest to unite its not just a memorial for the 300 Spartans
This game makes the 300 movie seem accurate, people who study history would love to see how it actually happened(or how it was recorded to happen) and adapted properly. I wonder how many people actually think it was only 300 spartan men that held Hell’s Gate from Persians. People who complain about others wanting accuracy are like the kids who bought and play BF5 after all the shit they said about consumers.
Cultist: And what are you doing, son of the Lion? Leonidas: No worries. I'm just here, stretching my legs. Cultist: Oh really, and them? Leonidas: These, uh 300 Men, are my personal bodyguards. Cultist: ... Pythia: ... Leonidas: I'm just... gonna head North o'kay.
it was actually a long standing spartan tradition that the 2 kings of Sparta would have 300 men in each of their royal bodyguards, When a class of boys "graduated" and became men by the spartan standard the Ephors would select 3 which they believed had excelled beyond their peers, these 3 would then pick 100 men each (although the selection was overseen by the Ephors to ensure the young men were picking men by their merits and not simply 100 of their closest friends) the original 3 would then become officers and the 100 they each selected would become the unit which they would lead. So it wasn't odd that the king took 300 men with him, however anytime the kings ordered their entire royal guard anywhere, it meant they'd be gone longer then a day....just some clarity for that scene....
@@connordervoncyberlifegesen8529 While I personally enjoyed Odyssey myself, it's correct to say the Assassins play a very minimal role in the story, even with the Isu bloodline and Leonidas's spear being an Isu artifact. There's not even a hidden blade you can use, and most areas are too flat or open for stealth to be a better alternative to open combat.
It’s the one battle I would love to see play out to settle my curiosity; was it a beach or a cliff? Was the Greek retreat by design or was it disorganized? The exchanging of cloaks between the Thespians and Spartans and watching the Spartan squires/helots fight to the death as well
If Leonidas threw his shield, that'd mean he is disgraced. Because loosing a spartan's shield would be total disgrace. Mainly because their fighting styles revolve around the shields
If you're referring to that phrase, "Come back with your shield or come back on it" then that phrase was used to Spartans as a sign of dignity, which meant if victorious, come back with your shield, and if you you died, you'll die coming back to Sparta on it. Which didn't actually go with a sign of weakness, it was considered a sign of weakness if you left a battle and let your fellow Spartans to die, one story including that a Spartan once left a battle and when he returned, his family and himself were bullied, eventually leading the Coward to commit suicide.
@@816jd9 People are critizing it because it misleads retards who listen to rap music on a basic History lesson. I haven't heard anyone complain about the game being inept, just it's inaccuracies.
Dindu' Nuffin, the phrase is also referencing the fact a Hoplite's shield is typically one of the most cumbersome parts of their equipment, and thus if one was running away from a battle, they'd toss the shield aside so they could actually flee. So if you returned without your shield, it meant you abandoned the battlefield and your fellow soldiers. I believe a spartan king was asked why losing your helm was better then losing your shield, and the reply was "Because the helm only protects yourself, while the shield protects your fellow soldiers."
For people not saying it's accurate they got his real age closer than 300. Leonidas was around 60 at the battle of thermopyle. Even in the loading screens and throughout the game it gives pretty accurate information. Of course they do have to make it fun and exaggerate plus make up stuff but all in all not bad.
"I would have liked going fishing with my son..." *in his imagination* NO SON YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO CATCH IT WITH A ROD, YOU HAVE TO WRESTLE IT UNDERWATER!
Man Ubisoft should have made this it’s own game. It was a game of wonder, intrigue and breath taking history. I love it. I really felt like I was there during my whole play through. Thanks Ubisoft!!!
Now imagine how much better it would be during the damn sengoku period and youre playing establishing the Iga ninja assasin clan/brotherhood. Literally can have tokugawa ieasu be a templar since hes all about uniting japan under 1 rule
Man, Leonidas' voice in this game is very similar to Gerard Butler's in 300, I even thought it was him dubbing, but it wasn't. This guy did a great job voicing Leonidas.
Close range around 10~20m the bronze amout will provide little protection. More than 10m say.... Around 50 or 80m the bronze amour can protect you from the arrow unless you are shot by an amour piercing arrows.
Mothers to their sons, wives to their husbands. The actual words was: "e tan, e epi tas" (η ταν, η επί τας), meaning: with the shield, or ON it (fallen soldiers were carried back on their shields, as honoured deads). So it is: come back carrying, or carried by your shield. It is metaphorical and it means: go to war and fight no matter what, to come back alive or dead is irrelevant. Extra note: if a Spartan lose (!!!!!!🤪😵🙈😞) his shield, in any (unacceptable) way for example, by throwing it to some head like Leonard here, he must IMMEDIATELY replace it with another one that he will take from a dead comrade, or (when in Phalanx) the man behind him, so that the formation remain intact
I wasn't there so I don't know but from what I have read the shield was symbolic to them the Greek hoplites where named after the shield they used the hoplon and greek was big Into phalanx fighting as a mass unit and was placed in a way that protected half of you and half of the man beside you and so on. And for Spartans especially the shield was just as important to them as a Samari sword to a Japanese often being passed down to generations so the shields where considered a family jewel aswell and was considered shameful if a Spartan lost his shield in battle. Some would even ingrave on the inside of there shields to so it also helped for when you died to be put with your shield and taken back home. But yes they actually apparently did carry there dead back home for a Spartans biggest honer is to die in battle they would rather die in battle then of old age
The fact that Sparta’s were even more tyrannical then Persia but then 300 comes in and paints it the opposite Yes both empires were evil but it’s clear Sparta was more evil then Persia ( if my memory serves correct Persia built the first mega city for all religions at the time but I think it was for only religions not to live in)
@@4shredder39 It's a disgrace for a spartan to throw his shield,a shield has an important meaning for spartan.Spartan also used shield as “weapon”,but they don't throw the shield,instead they bash their enemy with their shield
@@SirMonkeySuit Were you in ww2? Yet you know allies won the war, Soviets took Beelin...etc. You know there were not only western allies. History regarding Theemopylae is well known and documented only problem is many are ignorant of it. There is a monument in Greece to 700 Thespians. Btw. They say there are no stupid questions, you just disproven that.
I appreciate that Leonidas looks like what he would more likely look like.But his death is once again inaccurate to what I have read and seen in documentaries,he is supposed to have died earlier,he wasn't the last guy standing,he got shot in the neck by an arrow them it went all downhill,the rest of the soldiers kept trying to protect his body from the Persians but they died eventually.Leonidas head was then put on a spear,then again it's hard to know exactly what happened.
@@joethepimp6180 A Spartan without a shield is a disgrace, Rhipsaspia, no different from a deserter. Mothers would tell their sons to return with their shields or on it. You can lose a spear or sword but never the shield.
@@taylorking7467 We're talking about a game that has mystical creatures and functioning ancient devices that works really well. For me in the game universe the whole "Come home with your shield or on it" is just a myth, Leonidas in here has the PoE, the spear... that alone increased his strength and durability, he didn't need a shield atleast in this game universe.
One of the strongest intros of a game in my opinion and the fact that it’s set in Ancient Greece just makes it 1000 times better. Leonidas went so hard
Loved how historically accurate this game was even down to Leonidas true age which was around 60 when he died. Minus the defensive wall that was between the Spartans and the Persians and the fact that there was 6,700 other Greek soldiers made of Thespians and Thebans and other city state Greeks not just the 300, still very accurate.
@user-cj3tb3ic4e Spartans are entirely fictional with regards to every depiction of them in television and cinema. Real Spartans were heavy infantry hoplites that fought in formation. None of this charging about in your underpants with a short sword after using your 9-foot spear as a javelin and 15 kilogram shield as a fucking frisbee.
This is one of the greatest battles ever fought, thank goodness I'm a history nerd because both this game and 300 are both good their not historically accurate but still good non the leas
"Τιμή σ' εκείνους όπου στην ζωή των ώρισαν και φυλάγουν Θερμοπύλες" "Honor to those who in their life appointed and guarded Thermopylai" As a greek i always liked this phrase. It does not only honor the Spartans who faught till death so as to ensure a better future for the rest of the world. This phrase has actually a further meaning. It also honors and resembles all the warriors we as humans come up in our every day lives such as doctors (with all this covid 19 thing) , police officers , firefighters, the military for its service etc. I am so proud to be living in a country where such meanings could pave the way for countless future generations to come.
Siwmaes, Phalanx is literally a Greek word and formation Greeks used for...centuries, including the Phalanx.... In fact, the Romans conquered Sparta largely because the Spartans were still using Phalanx while the Romans abandoned that centuries before xD
This game seems heavily derived from the movie 300, which was a fun movie to watch but not at all historically accurate. First off, there were two kings of Sparta and when one would go to war the other would stay behind. Second, the ephors were actually pro-Thermopylae according to the Greek historian Herodotus. They were the ones to tell Leonidas to go there in the first place with his bodyguard and their battle-slaves. Third, the Spartans were extremely religious and adhered to tradition to a fault. Spartans were not concerned with "reason" nor "freedom" for Greeks, as was depicted in the movie. The very idea that the king of Sparta would tell the Ephors off is laughable at best. According to Plato, the Ephors ran Sparta like "despots" while the kings acted little more than generals. Fourth, and perhaps the most egregious, is the idea that the Spartans fought without the use of their battle-slaves. Spartans used battle-slaves to function similarly as squires did to knights in medieval Europe, for instance, passing the Spartans spears when one would break or be thrown and helping them put on their armor. Some of them proved themselves worthy enough for a race of them to be promoted as pseudo-equals to Spartans and given their own land (cant remember their name off the top of my head). Fifth, and extended from the fourth point, is the complete and utter lack of slaves in the depiction of Sparta. Spartans were greatly outnumbered by their slaves, also known as helots. These helots were greatly abused by the Spartan population with every autumn suffering through a "purge"-like period where a Spartan could kill a helot on a whim without punishment.
Nice history lesson. Well can't say about the movie but the game showcased a few of the points you made. The 2 Spartan kings, the extreme adherence to tradition, the helots and how they outnumbered the actual Spartan citizens. They missed out on the purge though O_o man that's horrible.
The only things that’s laughable here is how you’re trying to make sense of a video game.... it’s solely for entertainment I doubt you’ll find anything remotely close to historical accuracy in any game but ok.
I think you meant perioikoi. They were free people living in Sparta but without any civil rights. So they were basically a middle class between slaves (helots) and Spartiates (ruling class of warriors). Ultimately, that division proved to be the real downfall of Sparta, as the helots often rebelled, forcing Spartietes to waste time and resources on fighting these uprising and Spartiates themselves were most of the time too few in numbers. With only aprox. 10 000 of them at the height of Sparta's power it was just too few to keep everything in check and the numbers kept getting smaller with more wars, helot uprisings and other crises.
@@Fizzy332 Sad for you the Alvanians and Slavs around as and Turks are mixed from as and it also proofs from DNA universitys and more. No just some fake news and propagandas that some fake historians do.
One of the few kings that truly defied the elites that have ruled in the shadows for thousand of years. That’s why Sparta was attacked, but yet out great ancestor defended his homeland.
This is what the stories want you to believe but the actual history isn't that simple. Sparta at that time was a client state of Persia, Xerxes already ruled over the Greek world. A rebellion broke out on some Greek islands, other Greeks were called upon to put the rebellion down. The various city states debated whether to obey the Persian orders or defy them, Athens defied the commands and set out for the naval battle that was depicted in the 300 sequel (and was quite honestly the far more significant battle of the two, as Thermopylae was more a symbolic resistance than a significant military action). Sparta and Athens were always at odds and fought multiple wars against each other, Sparta siding with Persia. Sparta initially viewed this conflict no different than the others and planned to side with Persia against Athens. Leonidas of course had other ideas. With the full context it's clear this wasn't a simple defiance of shadow rulers or evil manipulators, Sparta was maintaining their long standing traditions and Leonidas defied them. Brave, certainly but if not for the tremendous Athenian victory over Persia (and later Greek victories including Sparta against Persia) then Leonidas wouldn't be lauded a hero, he would have been a villain and traitor.
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spartan bodies dead MEANT TRUE
spartan death 🤦🏻♂️
Hmmmm
The coolest thing is that this dude actually existed, like Leonidas was and always will be remembered as an absolute badass.
He may have existed. It's not 100% a fact as far as we know
@@connormitchell6446 Leonidas 1000% existed, this one I'm standing firm on lol
@@NickSibz yeah your right lol I got Leonidas and Achilles mixed up dont ask me how
@@connormitchell6446 dont worry my G, i was going to originally counter with Achilles being way way more unlikely so ironic how u said that back haha
@@connormitchell6446 Achilles was a myth..could be a soldier but he definitely wasn't immortal
"Imagine a king who fights his own battles." - Achilles
Wow! Awesome quote from Troy, man. I didn't even think about that!
The king would be present in the battle area but actually in the fight, not as common as I'd imagine, sure kings would march with their armies as moral support, if the king dies what happens? Moral breaks and the kingly led army falls apart. Not the smartest move to go into the fight to die but Leonidas knew once he was dead in the hands of the Persians, Beheaded, Greece would answer back. So he did have the balls to fight a losing battle, but knew it would not be in vain
Wouldn't that be a sight!
In Georgia, (Country) our kings were leading the war by the sword... Especially the Vakhtan Gorgasali
The Spartans actually had two Kings, only one of which would go to war at any one time, solely because of the problem of the disorganisation regicide brings to a people, especially a martial people like the Spartans.
"Tomorrow, is a day the world will remember!"
Well, he wasn't wrong there.
Lord of Dragons Eclipsen no he was not.
@@anthonyforney873 How did he want the world to remember him?
Tomorrow, we dine in hell!
@@Povsa_Well In the game he wanted the world to know what he and is 300 soldiers did against the Persian empire while in real life I'm pretty sure he just wanted to fight the Persian force because he didn't want the Persians to control his land which the Persians first needed to conquer past and the only reason the we know about them is because of both the Greeks and Persians remember them in there paintings, books and sculpture and the reason the world knows them is because of there legendary battle at Thermopylae.
@@Povsa_ as too many other Greeks wanted like achilles, glory and their names to be remembered for centuries.
that was the real pride.
The crazy thing about this is that this man was in his 60s and still moved the way he did, it’s incredible!
Spartans are just built different. And in AC universe is cuz he is an isu bloodline. Ezio Auditore was about 57 in revelations and still moved swiftly. That isu blood is no joke
Spartans were trained for battle since they could walk. If a Spartan was born "defective" they'd just kill the boy.
funny thing about the battle, people romanticise it far too much, the olympics were on so only 300 ish spartans could be spared to go fight since nobody wanted to miss it, along with a few thousand other greek soldiers, not to mention xerxes spent his whole life planning this invasion.... not once did he think to improve the weapons and armour of his troops, so the superior spartan equipment cut through their wicker shields like butter
@@vanillaicecream2385 It was around 1300 spartans in history, with greek allies bringing the total number up to around 7000 troops on the greek side at the battle of thermopylae
When dying Leonidas should've just shouted "ARES! DESTROY MY ENEMIES, AND MY LIFE IS YOURS!" and everything would've been fine.
Ehm, Kratos
Good idea
Nope not really kratos killed every one remember 😂
Wrong game man.
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He wasn't lying when he said the world will remember. Thousands of years later people know of this brave stand against tyranny.
The world remembers free men fought for themselves!
@@grimmywizard and now we are in lock down has free men. With out even a fight.
@jürgen samoilov. Do your research and you will find the answers. Humans have had much worse diseases then covid and not once ever their have been lock downs to my knowledge and even in war's when bombs were dropping from the sky's. That's my opinion. And you have yours.
You think Spartans weren't tyrannical? Every civilization was but the Spartans were even for their time, still a good thing that they're remembered
People remember propaganda after thousands of years. The Spartans weren't "elite warriors" who were the "best of the best". They were a slavery driven society of aristocratic elites whose only real contribution to warfare was flexible small unit tactics and psychological warfare through propaganda and flashy displays. Their track record during times of war was average, and the battle of Thermopylae was an absolute failure which lead to the sacking and massacre of Athens, there was absolutely no victory here. The hot gates was believed by the coalition (yes, it was a Greek coalition, not just Spartans running around) to be their best hope against a land invasion due to the massive strategic advantage they offered to their ground forces. The high rocky terrain would force Xerxes to launch a frontal assault every time into a tiny (and I mean T I N Y) gap which could very easily be pushed back and stalled as well as reinforced as per need. The fact that the Greek coalition messed up despite such advantages isn't a cause for celebration, it's humiliation. People also forget the smaller states that contributed hundreds of valuable soldiers during the last stand despite suffering greater consequences in recovering their losses later. What I find extremely ironic is the Idea that this was a fight against oppression, when Sparta was replete with slaves and their brutal abuse and murder wasn't just a commonality, it was tradition.
Historical Accuracy: 2.3%
300 Movie Accuracy: 97.7%
Fun fact.
2.3% historical accuracy from a game, about a timeline THAT old is way more than any movie managed to make
Still more accurate than Pompeii
Still it is better - Leonidas was in his fifties, and they wore cuirrases :D
@@OkStelios Ok, this is epic.
GAMERS RISE UP!
Leonidas and his 300 Spartans were so badass, to this day they are remembered and spoken of when talking about the most bravest men in history
When you think about it they have achieved legend status. Their story is remembered in songs and plays (movies and video games) they have truly achieved legend status
FUN FACT: Leonidas’s voice actor is the same guy who voiced Ezio’s brother Federico in AC2. He’s got an impressive range in accents.
and the guy who voiced Barnabas is the voice actor for Cesare Borgia in Brotherhood
@@xMurdererr cool
I knew he sounded familiar, he even sounded like ezio for a moment
He has done an amazing job but Imagine if gerard buttler did the voice of Leonidas!
plus he's adam jensen from deus ex!!
Cultist. "You are no one"
Leonidas proceeds to be one of the most famous Heroes of all time.
proceeds ?
Matt Bower or *is perceived.
*looks at the cultist* boy were you wrong
Proceeds to be perceived*
Bro you know that this is a threat to greece, Leonidas is a king, a loved and famous hero for us greeks.
*lifts a fully grown man and snaps his neck with one hand*
Metal af.
Even captain america can't do that even if he wanted to
spartans were aple to fight 100 persians by themselves one spartan was aple to kill 100 persians. they even broke their shields with their bare hands they broke the body in 2 and im seirous
@@theodoruspantelidis8738 WOOOooOOooaaah duuude, no fricking way!!!!1!1
@@flibbaflabba3126 im seirous
@@flibbaflabba3126 thermopylai the persians were 5 million 3 million soilders and 2 helpers
"You are no one"
*Leonidas proceeds to be a bad ass warrior that everyone knows*
"..and i took that personally"
- king leonidas
“Come home with your shield, or on it” *chucks shield like a discus, never to be seen again*
lol you have to go get that
Maybe spartan mothers said it to keep them from throwing there shields like a dumbass
will kenny Well yeah Hoplon shield are pretty expensive even back then.
It is said in-game an Oracle told Leonidas that Sparta would either lose its freedom or its king, so...yeah, he probably wasn’t worried about coming home without it.
The Shield was very heavy, so if one were to run away, they would lose their shield to go faster. But I think there is an exception when it’s lodged in another soldiers skull.
He threw his shield. He’s Leonidas of Sparta, not Steve Rogers of Brooklyn.
Nice one
Talia Skinner actually spartan soldiers were trained to combat anyway to survive and make anything a weapon so they actually used there shields to help give them an edge
Monark it was also one of the greatest offenses for a Spartan soldier to lose his shield.
a spartan does not throw his shield it would mean disrespect
Throwing/losing shield = easy death, espectially in hotspots of battle.
Leonidas : God of war, help us !!
Meanwhile....
Kratos somewhere in midgard : Boiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii, zuuuuuuuuuuuss
God of war in greek mythology was Ares, not kratos.
@@UlTrAXcH you're boring
lordbrunocaesar no, he’s right
@@jacksonsparks1385 But still boring.
Zeka Kiri Logic 100
1:45 this scene gives me chills
I love when he says 5:49 "Tomorrow is a day the world will remember" and here we are 2500 years later in 2022 still talking and learning about them.
Shahin aren't you Persian ? Where is you're patriotism ؟🤬
@@Prince_ofthe_persia fu***
Leonidas cutscenes feel like a whole different game
Yeah
A game that had a decent story
I was so excited for combat after this cutscene but the combat is so stupid looking
Literally looks like a mobile game
Why’s reallu shockifn is that Ubisoft is the same company that made this game and for honor and in for honor a lot of the combat looks real enough and is passable so what makes me cringe is how stupid it looks here
Bro don’t even get me started on how retarded the combat with the javelin is
A spear is for stabbing and not whipping it around like a toy
Da fuq
It’s not a pole staff
@@DavidGarcia-pi9wn i personally dont dislike odysseys combat.... but its WAY too cartoonish for an Assassins creed game
specially because it doesn't seem to have that shitty arbitrary thing of Assassin's Creed where "everybody that was cool in history was an assassin, and everybody who wasn't was a 'templar'"
Did you know that Leonidas was 60 years old in here? Badass
Yes
I don't
50*
@@AGboiii nope he was 60
Yep he was in his 60s
Leonidas died early on during the final day of fighting and the most brutal battles were over his body. The persians wanted to take it for Xerxes and the spartans wanted to keep it safe for burial. Apprantley, they lost his body and regained it 3 times until they were all wiped out. Shame they didn't show that.
EDIT: The reason this is know is that the spartans weren't the only soldiers there. They were being backed up by 2,000ish other Greek soldiers. When they learned that they had been betrayed and were being surrounded, they sent the other Greeks away. Some of them watched the battle play out from a distance.
Damn, that's pretty badass
Its true but they wanted to add a dramatic affect to the battle,
@Virgil Hardjo Hellenic soldiers are elite Persian soldiers. That's what he's referring to.overall there were tens to hundreds of thousands of soldiers
Virgil Hardjo technically it was only 300 of the Spartan Peers who were assigned. But each Spartan Peer had at least two squires to help them in battle in real life. Plus take into account the allies that helped them. In reality it was about 4 thousand Greeks in total that fought at Thermopylae
@nikola poyukov bruh u getting that last part from the movie. How ever I watch a documentary on it and they did fight over his body to preserve it idk how it all went down but the fact that they did that is fucking badass bro whay other king do you know that his soldiers where fighting till the last man just to try and keep their kings body just goes to show how much of true warriors they were. Respect to that regardless of how it went down
6:46 when she says "let's just be friends"
fuck that hits
King Leonidas probably was one of the most bad-ass kings that have ever lived in history.
Alexander the Great has entered the chat
Leonidas is a mighty hero of legendary status, but Alexander is the greatest king of them all. Ever.
I think Leonidas and Alexander are both legends of epic proportions, Leonidas saving Greece from Persia means Alexander could one day flourish and conquer Persia as payback.
Laughs in Gilgamesh
@@freestyla85 Plot Twist: Alexander is Leonidas' number one fan.
"I would have liked to have gone fishing with my son"
Hit...hard...
Well, he went fishing with his granddaughter/son
@@Johnny-ny3ko
Granddaughter/son?
🤣😂😆
No Name Alexios, Kasandra if you play the DLC
@@xeriies5104
That's granddaughter/grandson
“If Xerxes wants Sparta, he’ll have to go through me.”
*BADASS*
EXACTLY BRUH EPIC
Well Xerxes did go through him
@@sorenathegreat but his plan failed
@@ilikecookingapplejuice5699 you dont even know about the history do you?Xerxes after killing leonidas and burning the athen returned to iran
May i ask how did he failed?
@@sorenathegreat his army was wiped out in Greece Don’t tell me i don’t know about history because that just being an asshole
Leonidas is a true born leader, someone who stands for what they fight for, even knowing the odds he went into a great battle with his Spartan bodyguard and man the battle truly was remembered for thousands of years.
A warrior must not fight with raging anger, but with calmed determination
- Spartan code
This is true, after the battle 2 spartans survived Pantites who was sent as a messager to thessali and Aristodamus who has eye infection. Pantites commit suicide out of shame and Aristodamus try to have a honorable death in Platea but survived there too. They say he fight like a maniac and out of formation so he can die and after the battle Pausanias the Spartan king shame him for this act.
@@Sir_Kotsos He didn't die in platea?
I thought he did and then he redeemed.
I don't know how to write properly the third person redemption verb.
@@canaldamia8393 there are many views of this story some say he die some others not
It's like Samurai.
I personally like how this version of the battle somewhat mixes history and Herodotus’ account (what 300 used) together. Leonidas’ age is used correctly, the Spartans are dressed appropriately. Herodotus himself in-game even mentions the aftermath with Leonidas’ body. Where they really went wrong was adding their own custom elements like Leonidas throwing his shield.
Yeah thats very true
I whipped my head when I saw that. Captain America shit right there
@@nap0038 yes
plus the one handed neck snap on the dude after. Felt like I was watching thanos
I mean, the shield thing was just an excuse for gameplay, as ACO doesnt have shields in their combat
It’s quite obvious that the developers did watch the film, “300”.
They are weaker than 300 movie guys
Combo yeah these guys are more accurate.
who doesnt
Ernest Wang I see 301 XD
yes. but atleaste they made them wear armor closer to those that they wore for real,but a spartan would never drop his shield in battle.
“I would like to have gone fishing with my son” deeper than the deep words Leonidas always spoke.
In fate of atlantis dlc you go fishing with him, as Kassandra or Alexios.
If the Spartans really did break formations like this, they would have all die within the first day
giotispaok21 you completely misunderstood my points, Spartans were well trained, they had determination, they were better equips and had superior made weaponries, all of those were indeed important, but the most important part of them holding the line for as long as they did was tactic and strategy, choosing to fight where they did to put the numbers out of the equation, and having a battle formation to completely fill the narrow passage, and switching the front line every few minutes and take turns holding the front with the back rest, if they broke formations like this and went balls deep like here or in the movies, and even charged out of the narrow passageway, they would have been done within hours if not minutes, not days, but alas, neither movie or game makers knows how to show a good strategic battle formation so they just show big bad Spartans spitting up and charging out into the open,
giotispaok21 I know enough to know while guts is important in battle, that alone would not have been enough to turn a tide with that level of numerical disadvantage, the Spartans has much better armor, and much better weapon despite the movie showing them as almost naked in a fight , and even those alone wouldn’t have help if they didn’t force the Persians to fight in a narrow place and had the actual tactic and formation for such a terrain
giotispaok21, there were between 5 thousand to 7 thousand Greeks who held the pass, only 300 of them were Spartans (more or less). And there weren't a million Persians though their numbers were still insanely higher than the Greeks.
Giotispaok21, uhhhh no, there were far more than that. It's estimated that there were 700 thespians, and several hundred Thebians who held the pass on the final day whilst the remainder of some thousands retreated back to their cities, but other than that I don't even think you even know what you're talking about. Ancient sources told me this, by the way.
Within 1 hours
At least those Spartans have actual armor and historical accurate helmets.
Don't forget the Persians though. The design of those helmets, armors and clothes they're wearing are also historically accurate.
Though the armor gets penetrated like a tin can from obvious far away arrows.
That’s because 300 was a comic book adaptation haha it wasn’t based on actual history
Dylan Fontaine yeah in reality the shitty persian arrows literally bounced off greek bronze armor and shields. Leonidas also didnt live to the end of the battle either
+BandoLando Mhm, and the Persian light infantry's shields were made of wicker, so the spears went straight through. The Persian army was predominantly tuned towards fighting people with arrows like their's, so their shields were extremely light for tribal warfare and that was extremely sucky against Greek hoplites.
5:16
“By dawn you’ll be completely surrounded”
“We are Spartans when are we not?”
😂😂
Its a nice touch to add a but of Laconic jargon and humor there when it was one of the things ancient Spartans were known for having started.
Makes me remember Band of Brothers:
"We're paratroopers, Lieutenant. We're supposed to be surrounded."
-Dick Winters
It's the stab through the mouth for being disrespectful for me 💯
@@chanyh321 I see you're a man of culture as well my friend
Next scene get immediately decimated by Persian forces with Xerxes and Leonidas both killed on the battlefield
"FOR OUR SONS, FOR OUR DAUGHTERS
FOR SPARTA!!!"
made me love him even more
Spartans!! What is Your Profession!!??….
AU AU AU
Auu! Auu! Auu!
It's Ahou..@@sonicthesuperkid6
@@lucaswells1405 Are you retarded? It's AHOU..
Everyone seems to crave historical accuracy in a game with magic artifacts and primordial civilizations !
Lol yeah like the isu actually existed. Plus it's a game, no game is 100% accurate.
I don't crave historical accuracy. Its just the way they were fighting wouldn't let them in even in a fantasyvworld ya dumb fuck
@@kxloux8466 well this isn't necessarily true. Everyone talks about how the Spartans would have stayed in a phalanx formation but it's actually believed they would stay in formation, make a false retreat, then when overconfident Persians pursued they'd break formation and slaughter them.
@@kxloux8466 fuck up your crybaby lmao
Honestly though, until Black Flag the settings were fairly solid.
Spartans: **Fought in the phalanx formation**
Ubisoft: Nah fam. Historical battle strategies are lame. Just have them suddenly break formation in the middle of battle.
To be honest, phalanges would not make for very fun gameplay so I'm glad they did it the way they did. I only wish that in a mission or something, if you were overlooking a battle you would see accurate formation, shame.
Well fighting in formation would have been boring as fuck so I'm all for just going wild
@@marcoazoz4963 Absolutely. Although maybe 5% of people playing the game would be interested in the historical accuracy of a slow moving, but heavy hitting phalanx, the other 95% would just be bored.
Well phalanx were first implemented during Philip II of Macedonia
They did break formation in real life though, typically when their spears broke was when they'd break formation.
"Tomorrow Is a day the world will remember" - Leonidas
I mean, it is true
5:51
We still remember, 3000 years later.
2500 exact
Greece: who's your daddy?
Atlantians: ....
Only in Balkan the illyrian
This is defeated from IRANIAN troopers
@@streetfighterzshqiptar9773 average Albanian
3:49 "I have a sword so I will kick him in the back!" 🤣
He was attempting a spartan kick
@@immrcontagious9096 the "THIS IS SPARTA" kick
😂😂😂
I think his armour would simply block the sword
@@kingtorrhenstarkstark5311 how about slashing the back of the knee, the nape, upward slash at the armpits, etc.?
That's how you use a short sword on a battle with multiple enemies. Especially when you spotted a ranking officer with his back wide open!
To think that Leonidas was 60 years old when he fought these battles...
People back then lived longer and aged slower
@@Wolf-rb4or no I don't think so, we probably live longer than them
Volvox led from the front at 60 years of age and knew his men by name. That’s a leader.
@@Wolf-rb4or on the middle ages we die on 50 years old
Well he was spartan and for them it is disgrace not being in phisycal shape
I must say, it certainly was touching to hear King Leonidas say he wished he could have gone fishing with his son, I thought Spartans only knew war and lived simply to fight and die and that any relationships were only with their fellow soldiers, I had no idea they were that close with their families, etc. This was enlightening for sure!
Dimensio rebel king Leonida
Okay so yu know what i mean ?
@@hedhehogsilver2996 To be honest, I'm uncertain, glad you responded but I really don't get the "dimension rebel" part, could you please explain that?
During the game, there is a chance that when killing a Spartan soldier they will drop a letter and a mission which gives the location of a treasure with all the belongings he left for his osna. The letter is his testament
@@tecno-killer7702 Dear me, that is touching. ❤ Knowing they won't return, they leave something special for their loved ones to remember them by.
"I would have liked to gone fishing with my son... but now.... let us meet our fate shall we?"
The way he delivers this line. Amazing voice actor.
And in the fate of Atlantis dlc when Kassandra/Alexios is sent by Persephone to kill leonidas in elisiyum leonidas asks to go fishing cuz he’s his grandfather
That’s the same voice actor who voiced Ezios brother Frederico in AC2
My favorite line in the whole game even though it’s in the beginning
You can feel the tiny moment of regret he feels, then immediate back to badassery
@@lolscrubs8977 It's the same VA that voices Adam Jensen in the Deus Ex series. Something I really didn't expect.
If a Spartan got rid of his shield during battle that meant he forfeit and it symbolizes weakness which is why they used to say: “come home with your shield, or on it”
Edit:
Why tf do I have so many like
Yeah it was a phrase often spoken by mothers to sons, one mother was recorded as murdering her own son when he returned from war branded as a coward
MasterMind or the fact that they broke all formation and just went balls deep, that would also have been a suicide attempt
Wrong
I'm pretty sure that phrase was used to Spartans as a sign of dignity, which meant if victorious, come back with your shield, and if you you died, you'll die coming back to Sparta on it. Which didn't actually go with a sign of weakness, it was considered a sign of weakness if you left a battle and let your fellow Spartans to die, one story including that a Spartan once left a battle and when he returned, his family and himself were bullied, eventually leading the Coward to commit suicide.
Dindu' Nuffin I just read about it and forfeiting your shield during battle did show weakness... and not only that Spartans rarely broke formation
Netflix: Are you still watching?
Somebody's daughter: 5:33
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Slept on comment
That’s deep.
Deep idea also Deep throat.
Dirty joke😂
Well that was dirty😂
Only 1 thing wrong. When Leonidas died he was still surrounded by 50 spartans. Who later grabbed his sword, shield and body and raised it into the air yelling "Molon Labe!!!!"
Come and take them
Source: "trust me bro"
Oh wow were you there?
@@arky1790 called historical accounts friend. Something Americans are unaware of. If it isn't in a video game or movie it does not exist in the American mind
I was there, on the Thermopylae. I didn't saw Leonidas and the 300 spartans, just a memorial for they're honor. Rest in peace
Coincidentally I’m the 300th like of your comment
Rest in peace Spartans
@@mosasaurus2211 and also not just the Spartans but all the men who were at Thermopylae like The allied Greek forces who stayed with the Spartans
8000 Greeks stood at that field when a retreat was ordered by Leonidas 1000 stayed and held them off long enough for the rest to unite its not just a memorial for the 300 Spartans
Their
@@magnusthered4973 nope they were way less
I love how they fight with armors rather than fighting like male strippers
Hahaha u crazy
I mean, in 300 (the movie) it was loosely based off of the battle of thermopylae, and pretty heavily based off of the graphic novel of the same name.
but armor seems pretty useless in this video
It will be rated Adult XD
Sinister Twister it’s made of bronze I think and bronze is shit. But it’s all they really could use.
*a game that isn't historically accurate*
Kids of youtube: Time to write an essay on the history of this shit!
Yap Yap ikr people need to grow tf up
This game makes the 300 movie seem accurate, people who study history would love to see how it actually happened(or how it was recorded to happen) and adapted properly. I wonder how many people actually think it was only 300 spartan men that held Hell’s Gate from Persians.
People who complain about others wanting accuracy are like the kids who bought and play BF5 after all the shit they said about consumers.
at least these kids will learn history while trying to criticize this game
History that they also learned from TH-cam, lol
"I would have liked to go fishing with my son"
Made me cry right there.
Cultist: And what are you doing, son of the Lion?
Leonidas: No worries. I'm just here, stretching my legs.
Cultist: Oh really, and them?
Leonidas: These, uh 300 Men, are my personal bodyguards.
Cultist: ...
Pythia: ...
Leonidas: I'm just... gonna head North o'kay.
(awkward silence after that...)
You got that from the film
no shit comrade
Titus Robertson The story is exaggerated but it did happen at least that is the popular belief.
it was actually a long standing spartan tradition that the 2 kings of Sparta would have 300 men in each of their royal bodyguards, When a class of boys "graduated" and became men by the spartan standard the Ephors would select 3 which they believed had excelled beyond their peers, these 3 would then pick 100 men each (although the selection was overseen by the Ephors to ensure the young men were picking men by their merits and not simply 100 of their closest friends) the original 3 would then become officers and the 100 they each selected would become the unit which they would lead.
So it wasn't odd that the king took 300 men with him, however anytime the kings ordered their entire royal guard anywhere, it meant they'd be gone longer then a day....just some clarity for that scene....
7:46 Leonidas :"you should have gone for the head"
It wouldn't have been possible for me, while he's hella weak with injuries.
Just wrote this comment. Now finding out you wrote it 4 months ago... Damn you lol
Prob too weak after all those arrows and blades and shit. Had to be hidden as well to be able to even do it I suppose.
No just no! Stop comparing epic mythology with cheesy mcu crap.
@@TheMcGrath2001 nahhhhhhhhh it’s just bettter that way
THIS
IS
A very good video thanks
Lol didnt expect that
hahahahha
SPARTA!!!
Lol
Rotfl
What a tribute to one of Greece's greatest heroes! Now I have to buy and play AC Odyssey...
Sadly the game is nothing like these cutscenes. It’s a bit too silly but if you’re a big fan of roleplay games, you’ll love this one.
@@k_Shadi18 however if you’re a fan of Assassins creed games get ready to hate this because hoo boy this has nothing to do with AC
@@connordervoncyberlifegesen8529 While I personally enjoyed Odyssey myself, it's correct to say the Assassins play a very minimal role in the story, even with the Isu bloodline and Leonidas's spear being an Isu artifact. There's not even a hidden blade you can use, and most areas are too flat or open for stealth to be a better alternative to open combat.
@@connordervoncyberlifegesen8529 AC fan here, I loved this game and it does have connections with the rest of the series.
@@Bardim18 source?
A spartan would never throw his shield...
"With it, or on it." -A Spartan Mother.
I blame the "Assasin" engine. Developers have no idea how to portray fighting with shield in game. For honour, it is not.
First impression fuck yes spartans with proper attire and then proceeds to throw shield and break formation ffs
@@Jamplays592 yep, they wanted to see their sons either come back with their shield or come back laying in the shield dead
I mean they are spartans not Captain America
historically incorrect but at least they made the Persian ppl human 😅
By human, you mean white.
@@kiankazo8921 r/woooosh
Kian Kazo you*
The Vader that is Darth Yes he did: his lvl of dumbness.
@@YagamiL I don't he is american cause americans know that persians are not arabs
It bothered me so much that we weren’t allowed to have shields. Would have been so much more badass paired with a spear.
Shoot i havent finished and thought that would be a thing
That would have been hard to do since the gameplay is built around the broken spear being in your off-hand.
We could've use something like shield of leonidas
Assasin Creed developers have no idead how to portray fighting with shield. If they atleast copied template given by For honor...
Well that isn’t a assasin it make sense if they put in odyssey but it’s called assasin creed so ehhh idk
Imagine being able to go back in time and look down from the sky and just witness what this would have looked like
It’s the one battle I would love to see play out to settle my curiosity; was it a beach or a cliff? Was the Greek retreat by design or was it disorganized? The exchanging of cloaks between the Thespians and Spartans and watching the Spartan squires/helots fight to the death as well
If Leonidas threw his shield, that'd mean he is disgraced. Because loosing a spartan's shield would be total disgrace. Mainly because their fighting styles revolve around the shields
EsoJ H Yeah and If they would break formation like that agianst so many enemys they would not even have last an hour
If you're referring to that phrase, "Come back with your shield or come back on it" then that phrase was used to Spartans as a sign of dignity, which meant if victorious, come back with your shield, and if you you died, you'll die coming back to Sparta on it. Which didn't actually go with a sign of weakness, it was considered a sign of weakness if you left a battle and let your fellow Spartans to die, one story including that a Spartan once left a battle and when he returned, his family and himself were bullied, eventually leading the Coward to commit suicide.
@@816jd9 People are critizing it because it misleads retards who listen to rap music on a basic History lesson. I haven't heard anyone complain about the game being inept, just it's inaccuracies.
+lil JG Niggas jump off a cliff into and expect to survive when they hit a pile of hay.
Dindu' Nuffin, the phrase is also referencing the fact a Hoplite's shield is typically one of the most cumbersome parts of their equipment, and thus if one was running away from a battle, they'd toss the shield aside so they could actually flee.
So if you returned without your shield, it meant you abandoned the battlefield and your fellow soldiers.
I believe a spartan king was asked why losing your helm was better then losing your shield, and the reply was "Because the helm only protects yourself, while the shield protects your fellow soldiers."
For people not saying it's accurate they got his real age closer than 300. Leonidas was around 60 at the battle of thermopyle. Even in the loading screens and throughout the game it gives pretty accurate information. Of course they do have to make it fun and exaggerate plus make up stuff but all in all not bad.
True but I think they are hung up on the fact that are not in formation
@@PresidentPinewood true
@Joe Mendez 300 movie is based on comics, not on the history
Actually in Reality Leonidas Ale was exactly 52 at history accuracy
@@jakubcerveny1192 you mean age
where is the ghost of sparta at the time u need him
Being a Dad of Boi!
well he was ready to fight thor so...
yelling on some BOI in Midgard
Fuckin murdering gods.
Trying to get pussy in midgard but can't get any because of his *BOY*.
You know, they should’ve got the guy who played Leonidas in 300 to voice him
Who? Gerard Butler? No way, too freaking expensive, bro
@@martinlopez2816 not anymore :D hahah but I love Gerry, he is awesome :D
True… but it wouldn’t fit the character in game
In italian language we have the same voice actor :)
Fun fact: The real Leonidas was Scottish too.
5:33 THAT WAS BRUTAL
Leonidas : this is Sparta
Deepthroat( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
then looks around like um he said my mom was fat its ok guys
@@cypher2194 😂😂😂
*NO ONE TALKS TRASH ABOUT LEONIDAS IN FRONT OF HIM*
"I would have liked going fishing with my son..."
*in his imagination* NO SON YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO CATCH IT WITH A ROD, YOU HAVE TO WRESTLE IT UNDERWATER!
Or also in his fishing imagination
"No my son using a rod is for the weak real men dives in and kill the fish with his dagger!"
@@justineallandevelos6491 the shark
I assume they would have gone spear fishing
We did go fishing in fate of atlantis :/
This one xD
3:44 ok that's some *_brute strength_*
Edit: thanks for 615 like fellas, this is my personal record!
Dat snap tho
THIS IS SPARTA
Just goes to show how strong Leonidas was at 60.
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@Daddy Max Especially since he, like all Spartans, we're rigorously trained since age 7.
Man Ubisoft should have made this it’s own game. It was a game of wonder, intrigue and breath taking history. I love it. I really felt like I was there during my whole play through. Thanks Ubisoft!!!
Now imagine how much better it would be during the damn sengoku period and youre playing establishing the Iga ninja assasin clan/brotherhood.
Literally can have tokugawa ieasu be a templar since hes all about uniting japan under 1 rule
@@ZeroOmega-vg8nqI'd like to be hanzo Hattori
@@Real_British nah youll be either his secret adoptive son or theyd make us be yasuke
4:05 look at the guy in the back. He’s just getting hit by nothing
Observation 100
🤣🤣
😂😂😂😂
Glitch 100
Shoutout for the guy on the back for is acting skills
Poor Thespians they are never mentioned
Because unlike Spartans at some point they surrendered while Spartans didn't and died to the last
Arnold Steve thespians stayed
Arnold Steve Demofilos and his 700 hoplites stayed for a last stand
Or Thebians
Arnold Steve, like 90% of the rear guard died.
3:40 Leonidas, the first Avenger
That was kinda stupid. A Spartan life depends on his shield and he must never let go of it......
@@jayeezus Not to mention an aspis weighs about 16 pounds and its shape isn't flat like a frisbee.
@@barbiquearea True that
Man, Leonidas' voice in this game is very similar to Gerard Butler's in 300, I even thought it was him dubbing, but it wasn't. This guy did a great job voicing Leonidas.
dude, those are some powerful arrows piercing through Leonidas armour
@Lord Admiral Spire they can with ease. The persians used cheap arrows tho. If they used good arrows that armor wouldnt stop a single arrow.
@João Aurélio how about 7.62mm?
bronze can hold a lot. I mean they use bronze shields too, its not butter metal at all lol
Close range around 10~20m the bronze amout will provide little protection.
More than 10m say.... Around 50 or 80m the bronze amour can protect you from the arrow unless you are shot by an amour piercing arrows.
It's even weirder when you realize Spartans wore ten layers of leather behind the armor. Their torso was practically unkillable in the front.
The reason why he threw his shield so the player has no shield because the devs don’t want us to have a shield
Spartan mom: whith it or on it.
3:41 Leonidas : without it
casawi1986 that was his wife in the movie 🤦🏽♂️
Sure it was, but mother's did say to their young warriors come with it or on it.
Mothers to their sons, wives to their husbands. The actual words was: "e tan, e epi tas" (η ταν, η επί τας), meaning: with the shield, or ON it (fallen soldiers were carried back on their shields, as honoured deads). So it is: come back carrying, or carried by your shield.
It is metaphorical and it means: go to war and fight no matter what, to come back alive or dead is irrelevant.
Extra note: if a Spartan lose (!!!!!!🤪😵🙈😞) his shield, in any (unacceptable) way for example, by throwing it to some head like Leonard here, he must IMMEDIATELY replace it with another one that he will take from a dead comrade, or (when in Phalanx) the man behind him, so that the formation remain intact
I see that becoming a meme
I wasn't there so I don't know but from what I have read the shield was symbolic to them the Greek hoplites where named after the shield they used the hoplon and greek was big Into phalanx fighting as a mass unit and was placed in a way that protected half of you and half of the man beside you and so on. And for Spartans especially the shield was just as important to them as a Samari sword to a Japanese often being passed down to generations so the shields where considered a family jewel aswell and was considered shameful if a Spartan lost his shield in battle. Some would even ingrave on the inside of there shields to so it also helped for when you died to be put with your shield and taken back home. But yes they actually apparently did carry there dead back home for a Spartans biggest honer is to die in battle they would rather die in battle then of old age
As a Persian, at least I'm glad they didn't portray us as vile twisted demons, that's a huge improvement ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
For Sparta
300 really did you guys dirty
The fact that Sparta’s were even more tyrannical then Persia but then 300 comes in and paints it the opposite
Yes both empires were evil but it’s clear Sparta was more evil then Persia ( if my memory serves correct Persia built the first mega city for all religions at the time but I think it was for only religions not to live in)
Iranian? Persia hasn’t been a thing for a long time
Yeah invading someone's home is so un tyrannical wtf
when a spartan throws away his shield....
sparta: nah ill throw away this shield it doesn't fit meh
His shield was heavy; it threw him off balance, and his target was far away
@@OculusVeri his helmet was difling it narrowed his vision he had to see far
a shield is also a weapon not just for protection
@@4shredder39 It's a disgrace for a spartan to throw his shield,a shield has an important meaning for spartan.Spartan also used shield as “weapon”,but they don't throw the shield,instead they bash their enemy with their shield
“What say you Spartans”
“OOf”
“FOR OUR SONS”
“OOF”
“FOR OUR DAUGHTERS!”
“OOF!”
Whippy Dawn Junior “FOR SPARTA!”
“OOF OOF OOF!”
That's a sign of honour,They just don't go screaming out like hooligans
OOF
Leonidas is the definition of badass.
Real Leonidas was different. Sparta did not foughtbalone to the end 700 Thespians fought and over 1000 ofbother Greeks to the very end.
@@kvarnerinfoTV You were there?
@@SirMonkeySuit Were you in ww2? Yet you know allies won the war, Soviets took Beelin...etc. You know there were not only western allies.
History regarding Theemopylae is well known and documented only problem is many are ignorant of it.
There is a monument in Greece to 700 Thespians.
Btw. They say there are no stupid questions, you just disproven that.
@@kvarnerinfoTV bit different than over 2700 years ago don't you think? WW2 was 80 year ago. We have had first hand accounts.
@@SirMonkeySuit following your logic we should not discuss this topic as it was so long ago that maybe battle never happened at all.
2:28 this scene was delivered perfectly
I appreciate that Leonidas looks like what he would more likely look like.But his death is once again inaccurate to what I have read and seen in documentaries,he is supposed to have died earlier,he wasn't the last guy standing,he got shot in the neck by an arrow them it went all downhill,the rest of the soldiers kept trying to protect his body from the Persians but they died eventually.Leonidas head was then put on a spear,then again it's hard to know exactly what happened.
well.. it serves the cinematic experience tho
+Mr T well said people so fucking hard to please in 2018
They are trying to tell a story of the hidden blade not a “accurate death”
Lol the assassin creed fans are getting butthurt
+Zombie killer45 nobody is hurt we just don't understand why people lecture a fictional game it even says it at the start
Of all historical inaccuracies, a Spartan, and a King! to throw down his shield like that is abhorrent.
Η ΤΑΝ Η ΕΠΙ ΤΑΣ
@@joethepimp6180 Please don't become a game dev.
@@joethepimp6180 A Spartan without a shield is a disgrace, Rhipsaspia, no different from a deserter. Mothers would tell their sons to return with their shields or on it. You can lose a spear or sword but never the shield.
This is a video game my guy
Liamjm it’s a Game and it isn’t named spartan simulator
He threw his shield..
You fight monsters...
Yeah, Spartans would never lose their shields. Ubi fucked up.
They also wouldn’t break formation at the very start of the first battle...
@@Cipher_556 yeah and him throwing his shield is still the most unrealistic
@@taylorking7467
We're talking about a game that has mystical creatures and functioning ancient devices that works really well. For me in the game universe the whole "Come home with your shield or on it" is just a myth, Leonidas in here has the PoE, the spear... that alone increased his strength and durability, he didn't need a shield atleast in this game universe.
"The age of the heroes is over."
The age of heroes is never over.
7:47
Making sure you land the last blow, even while dying yourself. A true Spartan!
0:43 "you are no one" says the man behind the mask
Thats a fact
And the king of Sparta was right the world will remember this and we did
LOL
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As a looser ya
@mario barcelon yes but sparta didn’t by the way they got fucked.
Where as greece and sparta were two distinctive states
Yeah but then we forgot that there were a lot of other greeks present, not only spartans
One of the strongest intros of a game in my opinion and the fact that it’s set in Ancient Greece just makes it 1000 times better. Leonidas went so hard
At least he’s wearing more than just a thong.
Bruh😂
Those where my roleplay gay strippers freind's
That was a horrible adaption to the real spartans. Bronze protects metal not cloth 😂
Well the 300 movie was a live action adaptation of a comic which was pretty over the top and was based on history.
@@gamechanger8908 But it also had zombie things and creatures, it was meant to be pretty fake.
Loved how historically accurate this game was even down to Leonidas true age which was around 60 when he died. Minus the defensive wall that was between the Spartans and the Persians and the fact that there was 6,700 other Greek soldiers made of Thespians and Thebans and other city state Greeks not just the 300, still very accurate.
Ddd rebe king leonida HAIL
Fictional or not those warriors were the most feared infantry at the time. Brutal, precise, loyal and with no remorse of loss of life.
@user-cj3tb3ic4e Spartans are entirely fictional with regards to every depiction of them in television and cinema. Real Spartans were heavy infantry hoplites that fought in formation. None of this charging about in your underpants with a short sword after using your 9-foot spear as a javelin and 15 kilogram shield as a fucking frisbee.
@@CoffeeFiend1they did throw their spears though. Well in duels, not in war
"You are no one"
Says the faceless cultist to a hero remembered for centuries after him
Those cultist are shit cowards. rather to surrender than defending their home.
This is one of the greatest battles ever fought, thank goodness I'm a history nerd because both this game and 300 are both good their not historically accurate but still good non the leas
300 is made after a comic book by Frank Miller.
Leonidas Super Kick
THIS IS SPARTAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!
It's SPARTA not SPARTAN.
HBK of 540 BC
Strip x Hen ob
Glad to see they’re wearing real armor at least
@nikola poyukov thorax armor not leather armor
nikola poyukov He means Linothorax and it was made of layers of linen, not leather, it’s a very well documented piece of armour.
And the armour is not even close to what they would be wearing
you have to be a special kind of stupid to believe spartans wore leather armor
armor is for weak
- Hercules
I love that they actually got his age right. Leonidas wasn't some young 30-year-old. He was 60 when he died.
Considering the life expectancy of human in this era was around 40 to 50. Leonidas lived beyond that and fought a war
@@mrgrim17794 Those numbers were skewed due to the massive rates of infant mortality
"Τιμή σ' εκείνους όπου στην ζωή των ώρισαν και φυλάγουν Θερμοπύλες"
"Honor to those who in their life appointed and guarded Thermopylai"
As a greek i always liked this phrase. It does not only honor the Spartans who faught till death so as to ensure a better future for the rest of the world. This phrase has actually a further meaning. It also honors and resembles all the warriors we as humans come up in our every day lives such as doctors (with all this covid 19 thing) , police officers , firefighters, the military for its service etc. I am so proud to be living in a country where such meanings could pave the way for countless future generations to come.
True words,friend, i only hope the future generation will respect them too, and never forget our heroes
Ἢ τὰν ἢ ἐπὶ τᾶς!!
Better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
That's a great quote
Aren't they supposed to be in a phalanx?
Siwmaes no it not wtf
@@TheDark3lement Roman is devided into cohort. Greek used the phalanx
Siwmaes, Phalanx is literally a Greek word and formation Greeks used for...centuries, including the Phalanx.... In fact, the Romans conquered Sparta largely because the Spartans were still using Phalanx while the Romans abandoned that centuries before xD
Alexander Macedonia created the phalanx and use it to conquer sparta i think.
This is Spear/Big round Shield Wall , phalanx is more like 6 meters Pike/Small shield gauntlet
If someone wants to test their love towards the motherland, King Leonidas is their benchmark
And here 7:16 we see a Persian commander with a flying sword. 😂
This game seems heavily derived from the movie 300, which was a fun movie to watch but not at all historically accurate. First off, there were two kings of Sparta and when one would go to war the other would stay behind. Second, the ephors were actually pro-Thermopylae according to the Greek historian Herodotus. They were the ones to tell Leonidas to go there in the first place with his bodyguard and their battle-slaves. Third, the Spartans were extremely religious and adhered to tradition to a fault. Spartans were not concerned with "reason" nor "freedom" for Greeks, as was depicted in the movie. The very idea that the king of Sparta would tell the Ephors off is laughable at best. According to Plato, the Ephors ran Sparta like "despots" while the kings acted little more than generals. Fourth, and perhaps the most egregious, is the idea that the Spartans fought without the use of their battle-slaves. Spartans used battle-slaves to function similarly as squires did to knights in medieval Europe, for instance, passing the Spartans spears when one would break or be thrown and helping them put on their armor. Some of them proved themselves worthy enough for a race of them to be promoted as pseudo-equals to Spartans and given their own land (cant remember their name off the top of my head). Fifth, and extended from the fourth point, is the complete and utter lack of slaves in the depiction of Sparta. Spartans were greatly outnumbered by their slaves, also known as helots. These helots were greatly abused by the Spartan population with every autumn suffering through a "purge"-like period where a Spartan could kill a helot on a whim without punishment.
Nice history lesson. Well can't say about the movie but the game showcased a few of the points you made.
The 2 Spartan kings, the extreme adherence to tradition, the helots and how they outnumbered the actual Spartan citizens.
They missed out on the purge though O_o man that's horrible.
The only things that’s laughable here is how you’re trying to make sense of a video game.... it’s solely for entertainment I doubt you’ll find anything remotely close to historical accuracy in any game but ok.
I think you meant perioikoi. They were free people living in Sparta but without any civil rights. So they were basically a middle class between slaves (helots) and Spartiates (ruling class of warriors). Ultimately, that division proved to be the real downfall of Sparta, as the helots often rebelled, forcing Spartietes to waste time and resources on fighting these uprising and Spartiates themselves were most of the time too few in numbers. With only aprox. 10 000 of them at the height of Sparta's power it was just too few to keep everything in check and the numbers kept getting smaller with more wars, helot uprisings and other crises.
I came down to this comment section to learn
Fuck off with your history lesson. No one cares
I know it's only a game but as a patriotic Greek this makes me feel so proud 🇬🇷💙
Greece is serbia
@@dashkhosrowfan3691 No sadly for you that years Slavics was not exist🤣🤣🤣
Serbia was Greece too
@@Byzant1453 lol modern Greeks are so mixed with Slavic, Albanian and Vlach influence
@@Fizzy332 Sad for you the Alvanians and Slavs around as and Turks are mixed from as and it also proofs from DNA universitys and more.
No just some fake news and propagandas that some fake historians do.
@@Fizzy332 Says who?
One of the few kings that truly defied the elites that have ruled in the shadows for thousand of years. That’s why Sparta was attacked, but yet out great ancestor defended his homeland.
The same war going on today
This is what the stories want you to believe but the actual history isn't that simple. Sparta at that time was a client state of Persia, Xerxes already ruled over the Greek world. A rebellion broke out on some Greek islands, other Greeks were called upon to put the rebellion down. The various city states debated whether to obey the Persian orders or defy them, Athens defied the commands and set out for the naval battle that was depicted in the 300 sequel (and was quite honestly the far more significant battle of the two, as Thermopylae was more a symbolic resistance than a significant military action). Sparta and Athens were always at odds and fought multiple wars against each other, Sparta siding with Persia. Sparta initially viewed this conflict no different than the others and planned to side with Persia against Athens. Leonidas of course had other ideas.
With the full context it's clear this wasn't a simple defiance of shadow rulers or evil manipulators, Sparta was maintaining their long standing traditions and Leonidas defied them. Brave, certainly but if not for the tremendous Athenian victory over Persia (and later Greek victories including Sparta against Persia) then Leonidas wouldn't be lauded a hero, he would have been a villain and traitor.