For the snare drum, new heads and snares go a long way, so it’s a really good idea to get replace those to really get a better sound out of it. The same really goes for any drum.
@@evanfurtado6470 I'm planning on upgrading to a better kit pretty soon. Thinking about getting a Yamaha Recording Custom. Maybe I'll put Evans on those.
@@CJHazard no, do not change your drum kit, I made this error a while ago, If you think your drum sucks just put on some new heads, change the cymbals, the hihat also I recommend Zildjian as your new cymbals, it could cost you approximately 2 to 4 hundred bucks
I bought the same kit for my kid. I over did it a bit. Superkick II on the bass drum and ec2s on the Toms, genera dry on the snare. After much work, it sounds like a 900 drum kit.
Hey man. Thanks for doing this video! I have a Gammon kit also and it too sounds horrible as is. Im planning on getting some thicker heads for the toms and snare to use as a practice kit.
A head replacement is definitely recommended to get a better sound. For the snare & toms, I recommend Remo Coated Pinstripes on the batters. For the bottom heads , I recommend Remo Clear Ambassadors. On the snare bottom, a Remo Snare Ambassador is recommended. For the bass drum, Coated Remo Powerstroke 3s are recommended.
Thank you for the recommendation. I've actually changed the heads and published a video showing which heads I went with - you can watch it here!: th-cam.com/video/E6l2q2CLgec/w-d-xo.html
You muffled the kick drum maybe a little bit too much cause you can hear the hinges of the pedal squeak and you want some kind of tone with the bass drum. Great job though!
Hi David. Thanks for asking! It's a song I created called "Timelapse". I'm going to be releasing it soon on the major streaming channels along with some similar tracks under the artist name "Radio Zombies" :-)
@@CJHazard : Nah...just replace the snare wires...and get Hydraulic head for the toms. Basic maintenance. You'll have a nice kit. If you wanna go the extra mile...a Zildjian Cymbal Pack.
I traded a bad guitar for a bad drumkit once. It was a borg kit from Sam's Club or something like that. I converted all the toms to single-headed, and the bass was already single-headed. I put a whole bunch of old pillows in the drum. I bought really heavy heads for the toms. Then I did the same for the snare, as well as some new wires. The cymbals I sourced some old marching cymbals, which you can basically use for crashes, rides or hats. Sounds ok. I'd record with it, but I don't think I would tour with it.
Nice video man! Like several others here id recommend changing heads. Id also recommend looking into some audio production techniques man. Some eq, compression, stereo panning are super helpful in getting a great drum sound. Its also crucial to have overheads in phase distanced equally from the snare and panned left and right. Just some thoughts of mine, great video... keep it up brother.
Gotysed zbt cymbal and a used Yamaha gigmaker drum set with hardware for $300 recently. A pretty good deal. These drumset take quite a bit of work to fix and to get a way better significance sound you have to change out the drum heads. Which can cost about $80 for new heads so I get why some wouldn’t see it worth it to do it.
Those also aren't the original pedals or symbols... the pedals are more mechanical looking if that makes sense... I also got a double kick pedal when I got mine. So if you could imagine double kickin THAT bass drum 😆
Snare wires propably not straight, fix that and then bring the snare wure tension up, even out the tension in the head, propably more tension on the snare head, but thats a wild guess since you didnt tap the bottom head again after you mentioned you tightened it. Try to hit an intervall between top and bottom head, that reduces unwanted overtones by alot. Toms alot of the same, even out the tension in the heads, tune top and bottom to the same pitch for the most resonance, hit intervalls between the heads to reduce resonance. Give the drumset calculator from TuneBot a try to get some suggestions on what note to hit. Their values are not set in stone, but good starting points though. You did not have the heads in tune on multiple drums. This is important!
I have like 3 mins left of this video. I'm gonna throw a pillow in my bass drum... also the symbols that COME WITH this set, don't sound as bad as the ones you ended up getting with yours... I got the set in Amazon brand new for about 400 bucks... I'm a beginner teaching myself to play when I ha e the spare time, and figured I could add things to it if I ever get that skilled lol
CJ Hazard Try black suede emperors on top and coated ambassadors on the bottom . I bet it will sound pretty good after that without any moongel... Even most decent drum sets come with the cheapest drum heads in the world. Those are probably poplar. Poplar actually sounds pretty good with the right heads.
@@danrivera7 Thank you for the suggestion. I just purchased black suede emperors for all of the battering side heads, and I'm going to try a concert style setup with no resonant heads on the toms and kick since I'm using this in a mic'ed environment. Got a coated ambassador for the resonant side of the snare. We'll see how it goes!
You should, get a drum tuner, or just tighten them enough to get any rinkles out,, you can use tape in the inside,, to take the ringing out, a pillow in the kick drum, remember the bottom head, is tuned different than the top the secret to making a cheap drum set sound good, is Remo heads, and tuning, each drum is tuned to a specific note. Learn how to tune correctly. Right bro.
Besides Karate I play drums. I feel like an old white privileged spoiled kid. I enjoyed your video. You did a great job with the Gammon drum kit. My main kit is an 90's Ludwig rocker kit. I have three other kits one being a Gammon kit. The thing I like about the Gammon kit is the ride Toms are the same size as vintage kits. If your a 70's listener most the recordings are using the 8 by 12 and 9x13 such as you have with your Gammon's. Newer KIts (even my Ludwig Rockers) are deeper Ride Toms. One good thing to do with these cheaper kits is put Evans heads on them preferably Evans hydraulics.
Let’s see. He must have bought his moon gels at the Moon Gel store because he obviously didn’t go to a music store because he DIDN’T BUY NEW HEADS!!!!!
For the snare drum, new heads and snares go a long way, so it’s a really good idea to get replace those to really get a better sound out of it. The same really goes for any drum.
Hi Zak. You're absolutely right. I'm just a cheapskate ;-) New heads would probably go a LONG way in making the drums sound even better.
I'm going to put new heads on this kit! Do you have any recommendations?
@@CJHazard remo heads are good, you can also get some evans one they sound so good
@@evanfurtado6470 I'm planning on upgrading to a better kit pretty soon. Thinking about getting a Yamaha Recording Custom. Maybe I'll put Evans on those.
@@CJHazard no, do not change your drum kit, I made this error a while ago, If you think your drum sucks just put on some new heads, change the cymbals, the hihat also I recommend Zildjian as your new cymbals, it could cost you approximately 2 to 4 hundred bucks
I bought the same kit for my kid. I over did it a bit. Superkick II on the bass drum and ec2s on the Toms, genera dry on the snare. After much work, it sounds like a 900 drum kit.
Hey man. Thanks for doing this video! I have a Gammon kit also and it too sounds horrible as is. Im planning on getting some thicker heads for the toms and snare to use as a practice kit.
Would make a great electronic conversion too
Thank you for your video! Very good!
A head replacement is definitely recommended to get a better sound. For the snare & toms, I recommend Remo Coated Pinstripes on the batters. For the bottom heads , I recommend Remo Clear Ambassadors. On the snare bottom, a Remo Snare Ambassador is recommended. For the bass drum, Coated Remo Powerstroke 3s are recommended.
Thank you for the recommendation. I've actually changed the heads and published a video showing which heads I went with - you can watch it here!: th-cam.com/video/E6l2q2CLgec/w-d-xo.html
Does anyone know how to turn the snares back on? I can’t figure it out and have no idea how to turn them on
I have the samekit, never did s*** to it, all I did was tune it... sounds incredible .
Sick dude I bought this kit and got new heads for my snare got An Evans Heavy snare, and Aquarian's for the toms, but they still sound like booty
If u've done aall that to it and it doesn't sound better??.....it the wood
You muffled the kick drum maybe a little bit too much cause you can hear the hinges of the pedal squeak and you want some kind of tone with the bass drum. Great job though!
should i sell this for a pdp encore kit?
Yes
How do those drums sound now?
How much cost in indian money
What's the background music?
Hi David. Thanks for asking! It's a song I created called "Timelapse". I'm going to be releasing it soon on the major streaming channels along with some similar tracks under the artist name "Radio Zombies" :-)
Snare wires buzz a lot (stretched wires). Might need to replace the snare wire assy.
For sure. I actually just plan on replacing the entire snare... Or the whole kit haha.
@@CJHazard : Nah...just replace the snare wires...and get Hydraulic head for the toms. Basic maintenance. You'll have a nice kit.
If you wanna go the extra mile...a Zildjian Cymbal Pack.
Remo pinstripes for the kit & remo -rings- for a fatter sound and strainer needs to be tightened just a little.
I traded a bad guitar for a bad drumkit once. It was a borg kit from Sam's Club or something like that. I converted all the toms to single-headed, and the bass was already single-headed. I put a whole bunch of old pillows in the drum. I bought really heavy heads for the toms. Then I did the same for the snare, as well as some new wires. The cymbals I sourced some old marching cymbals, which you can basically use for crashes, rides or hats. Sounds ok. I'd record with it, but I don't think I would tour with it.
Nice video man! Like several others here id recommend changing heads.
Id also recommend looking into some audio production techniques man. Some eq, compression, stereo panning are super helpful in getting a great drum sound. Its also crucial to have overheads in phase distanced equally from the snare and panned left and right. Just some thoughts of mine, great video... keep it up brother.
Gotysed zbt cymbal and a used Yamaha gigmaker drum set with hardware for $300 recently. A pretty good deal. These drumset take quite a bit of work to fix and to get a way better significance sound you have to change out the drum heads. Which can cost about $80 for new heads so I get why some wouldn’t see it worth it to do it.
For sure, sometimes these drums just need a little bit of TLC and energy to get them sounding good. Other times, it's not even worth it haha.
Those also aren't the original pedals or symbols... the pedals are more mechanical looking if that makes sense... I also got a double kick pedal when I got mine. So if you could imagine double kickin THAT bass drum 😆
Snare wires propably not straight, fix that and then bring the snare wure tension up, even out the tension in the head, propably more tension on the snare head, but thats a wild guess since you didnt tap the bottom head again after you mentioned you tightened it. Try to hit an intervall between top and bottom head, that reduces unwanted overtones by alot.
Toms alot of the same, even out the tension in the heads, tune top and bottom to the same pitch for the most resonance, hit intervalls between the heads to reduce resonance. Give the drumset calculator from TuneBot a try to get some suggestions on what note to hit. Their values are not set in stone, but good starting points though.
You did not have the heads in tune on multiple drums. This is important!
I have like 3 mins left of this video. I'm gonna throw a pillow in my bass drum... also the symbols that COME WITH this set, don't sound as bad as the ones you ended up getting with yours... I got the set in Amazon brand new for about 400 bucks... I'm a beginner teaching myself to play when I ha e the spare time, and figured I could add things to it if I ever get that skilled lol
How about changing the drum heads? That's the first thing you should have done.
In retrospect, yes, that probably is the first thing I should have done.
CJ Hazard
Try black suede emperors on top and coated ambassadors on the bottom . I bet it will sound pretty good after that without any moongel...
Even most decent drum sets come with the cheapest drum heads in the world.
Those are probably poplar.
Poplar actually sounds pretty good with the right heads.
@@danrivera7 Thank you for the suggestion. I just purchased black suede emperors for all of the battering side heads, and I'm going to try a concert style setup with no resonant heads on the toms and kick since I'm using this in a mic'ed environment. Got a coated ambassador for the resonant side of the snare. We'll see how it goes!
@@CJHazard How do they sound?
A single headed Tom won’t have much sustain and I would imagine those heads would deaden it ever more.
@@danrivera7 Gotcha. I haven't put them on yet... Any recommendations for heads for the concert setup?
It's $94 online rn, never heard of them, I'm not a drummer though, I've wanted to get into playing
Why not new heads bro plz ur killing me ✌
I did! Here's the video ;-) th-cam.com/video/E6l2q2CLgec/w-d-xo.html
huge improvement ...I would however suggest upgrading the snare drum
Yes, I concur. I'll either be replacing the snare... Or the whole kit ;-)
the kit itself surprisingly sounds really good but a decent snare would make a world of difference
I got a random set for 30 bucks.. sound like plastic.. maybe get new heads? What should I do? Checkout my channel and listen to some track. Wyt?
I just got this set about a week ago, and HATE the way that bass drum is bouncy and fucking LINGERS...
You should, get a drum tuner, or just tighten them enough to get any rinkles out,, you can use tape in the inside,, to take the ringing out, a pillow in the kick drum, remember the bottom head, is tuned different than the top the secret to making a cheap drum set sound good, is Remo heads, and tuning, each drum is tuned to a specific note. Learn how to tune correctly. Right bro.
Besides Karate I play drums. I feel like an old white privileged spoiled kid. I enjoyed your video. You did a great job with the Gammon drum kit. My main kit is an 90's Ludwig rocker kit. I have three other kits one being a Gammon kit. The thing I like about the Gammon kit is the ride Toms are the same size as vintage kits. If your a 70's listener most the recordings are using the 8 by 12 and 9x13 such as you have with your Gammon's. Newer KIts (even my Ludwig Rockers) are deeper Ride Toms. One good thing to do with these cheaper kits is put Evans heads on them preferably Evans hydraulics.
How I made my gammon drum set sound better. I bought a new one
Lmmfao
Save up more money and buy the best second had set you can stretch too!
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Cleaning is the least of the issues....Add new quality heads everywhere and learn to tune. Period.
It needed cleaning too, but you're absolutely right. I'm getting ready to swap out the heads with some black suedes. I'll work on my tuning.
Let’s see. He must have bought his moon gels at the Moon Gel store because he obviously didn’t go to a music store because he DIDN’T BUY NEW HEADS!!!!!
$100.00 kit. becomes $500 kit real fast
Uuuuuh....no
your snare side head is way too loose! it should be TABLE TOP TIGHT! and the heads are garbage
I dont know what it is with gammon but I'm pretty sure they make the worst snares ever. Both of my gammon snares have always had that terrible rattle
I just went to dudes channel... I don't see any videos with tips. Just covers.... HMO
Put your wallet on the snare when you play...solved ☺️ moongel also works wonders
75 percent of the problem is the heads
For sure. I'm thinking about putting new heads on since I will be starting to use it again; do you have any suggestions?
My comment is only a snare drum head, change it a new expensive drum head try to buy "Remo Drum head and the bottom of a snare also change it"
Spend 300$ n play second
Second Sound absolutely don't sounds better. Exactly the same bad Sound
Bad drams and Bad sawnt
Not Much better