I just learned that the GINGER50 discount code is still active during the RevRides Fall sale! So you get $50 off, a free steering damper AND accessory pouch! Never been a better time to buy a VSETT.
Please tell me where you guys get replacement bolts for the Vsett? I lost the split hub black bolts, anyone know the size of these things and where can I find replacement bolts..????HELPPPPP !
I have a 10R+ and just love it for all the common reasons . A couple things U will say, though. Mine was delivered in a loose condition that gave it very bad steering “death” wobble at anything over about 20 - 22 mph. Since it was new, I thought this may be a common issue and responded by riding accordingly so that I do not die prematurely. I had to send it back after about six months due to rear motor failure, which ended up being the rear controller issue. However, the mechanic also noticed that the suspension was “loose” and tightened it. The steering wobble was gone and I could comfortably ride up to 35-40 mph. My entire first season was relegated to 20 mph or less because of this issue. Then there are all the flats I got. 11 flats on the first 500 miles! Worse than that is what is actually required in order to change a flat which is a very miserably difficult experience that does not get much easier with time. Getting the new tube into place requires an immense amount of very difficult manipulation especially if you do not have a custom workshop in your basement. While my flats have started to come much less frequently, for reasons unknown, changing flats are still as miserable as ever. So, if you buy a new one that wobbles over 20 moh, have the suspension checked right away. And, if you are not minimally mechanically inclined, this product is not for you. Eventually, after the honeymoon has passed, it will require much more than expected to keep it “on the road”. I suspect that a lot of these types of scooters end up collecting dust in the basement, right where your custom work shop could be instead.
Just used your code to get one, it comes today and I'm so excited! I don't think I would've gotten a 10+ if it weren't for your amazing vids, keep up the great work!!
i actually have NO interest in scooters AT ALL. But I did buy a Himiway Cruiser recently as well as another ebike to go with it. I am interested in BMX racing bikes (which are expensive AF), but after watching this as well as some of your other videos (LOVED the one where you did the SNOW ride! lol) I am actually thinking about getting this VSETT 10+ ( I was budgeting on a BMX racing bike which range from 400 up to 900 dollars for next month but could buy this instead!). Like I said I have ZERO interest in scooters, but your vids are so fun to watch I feel like you are my best friend and we are riding together just from watching you! Thank you so much for the great content and keep up the reviews!
Welcome officially to the vsett 10+ club! Now good luck sorting through the hail storm of upgrade recommendations to make your ride even more stellar. As is the 10 probably has all the features you want if you're just riding it for fun; But if you need it to be anything more you will probably start looking at longer handlebars, better horn/bell, better front light, etc.
Dude! Great review. Sold me. Thanks for the discount code! This thing is actually cheap for all of the features it has. I have almost $12 K into my electric mountain bike and it is the funnest toy I have ever had in my life. I have a feeling this thing is going to be a close second!
bought 1. put adjustable air suspension. put thumb drive on. at 2k miles now. absolutely no problems. rode it with my wife all together off roads. loving it. riding alone Ive gone 60+ miles on single charge.
Thanks for the original video because I bought mine after multiple reviews. I love mine and I’ve only had a few flats. I did blow out controller in a massive rain storm. Thank you for pointing out the coverage of the horn I didn’t know that’s a point of seeping
I love my Vsett 10+ R !!! (chose it mainly from your original review). I have over 1,600 miles on it so far. Upgrades I've done are: - New solid, wider handlebars - Steering damper - PMT tires (definitely worth it!) - New horn - 2x headlights - Mirror Best range I have gotten is about 45 miles, mostly gear 1. That would probably be my biggest complaint, I was hoping for a little bit more but still not bad at all for a scooter. If you really like the suspension, adding the PMT tires makes the ride even softer. It's like a luxury sedan. I'm really looking forward to more videos from you on the 10+, especially any mods you do. Be safe, have fun!
Glad you're liking it so far! I'm curious, with that 45mile range what size battery did your vsett come with? Was it the 28ah? Mind sharing your riding weight with gear? I'm about 225 so I'm not sure what to expect. Man... Everyone preaches about those pmt tires. If the originals are out of balance it usually works for me to just deflate them, freespin up the motors for a second, then reinflate the tires. If the tires are the same PSI, how can PMT feel squishier? I guess I need to try them eventually. I'm sure I'll need to upgrade to the 291R when I get to smashing this thing off-road. What size coil did you go with?
@@GingerOnWheels Hey Ginger, yes, it is the 28ah battery. I weigh about 185 without gear, maybe an additional 10-15 with? The 45 mile ride was on a pretty hilly trail with lots of ups and downs. So there was a lot of coasting down hill, then power going uphill. It probably will do better on flatter ground, but I don't really have a way to test that. I had regen braking on level 1 for that ride. I'm not a big fan of it and don't use it much, but thought I could take advantage of all the downhill portions of the ride. And the PMTs, I only upgraded because they were a gift, I really wasn't having many issues with the stock ones. But once I tried them, I could feel a difference right away. And I don't know if I would say squishier, but smoother maybe. Really hard to describe, but like I said, I noticed a difference. Come out to Atlanta some time you can give it a shot! And I have NOT upgraded the suspension, but that is probably my next thing.
@@bogard887 I did have a controller failure at about 2,500 miles. It was still under warranty from Revrides and they were helpful in getting the replacement and troubleshooting with the install. I still really love the 10+, but it has required several upgrades to get it where it's at, so keep that in mind. But I would still recommend it to anyone - once you have it dialed in for yourself, it is an awesome ride
Currently own a Ninebot E45. It's super durable except for the folding mechanism's spring. I decided after your video last year that the Vsett 10+ was gonna be my next scooter. That's still the plan! Thanks GoW
Hello Ginger your channel is undoubtedly the best educational channel out there on Hyper scooters. I am looking at purchasing the Vsett 10+R does this scooter use brushless motors I can't find an answer on their website? Thank you
I'll be pushing out as much content as I can all Winter. When the other channels slow down in the cold weather, I'll be out riding, filming, editing, and living on Red Bull. 🫡
I appreciate each and every one of you guys and girls watching these videos. The amount of money I make from TH-cam is a pittance compared to my old office job, but I've never been a happier human. I will never stop!
7:51 if you get water in the motors, it ruins them? I have the Vsett 8+ and I road mine threw a puddle that was sooo deep that the deck was completely submerged and my shoes got wet. I road threw that puddle for like 20 seconds and I road threw the same puddle like 3 times. That was like 5 months ago. Is that bad? It still works perfectly tho. I thought it was water proof
got it recently despite availability of Mukuta and Apex. I prefer the design here and foldable handlebar. Doing 55km with the smallest battery. Added a proper front shock and little 3D improvements everywhere. It fits a regular european trunk with other scooters.
Just bought one, living in Bangkok Thailand, incredible. I do agree when you get up to speed, need that steering damper. Other than that, more power than my VSETT 9 and just not in the same category. Recommend this scooter. Thanks for the review GOW!
Hopefully you're having better luck with yours and I did with mine, 1 motor change, 2 key fob changes, 1 speed control change, at this point they just gave me a new model and I sold it before anything could go wrong with it, it was fun it was great but it had a lot of issues and this is before I had 500 km in Canada on it
Could you do a video on Waterproofing this? I'm going to purchase this scooter in the next month or so and am planning on doing the same. This will be my first scooter and I'm clueless on how to do anything. I'm in the Seattle area and it would be pretty awesome to come along with some group rides int he future.
I’m one of the sickos that has about seven scooters and undoubtably the Vsett 10+ hits the sweet spot. It is absolutely all anybody needs and it’s very port. My favorite…. The 11+ is a little beefier, but it’s not portable it’s too big.
Thanks. Can you say something about Mukuta 10+. Some say it,s away better than vsett10+. Thanks. And another question. Is it safe to buy from AliExpress. Just 1000$ cheaper than here in Sydney. Thanks.
Love the video but i don't understand when you say "need to waterproof"? I use my Vsett 9+ in Sweden year round and drive thru everything no problems with water.
I recommend trying the pmt efire tires for this scooter. Also, the battery is the same config on all vsett model’s. The difference is the cells used (LG Mj1 in 28ah pack, LG mh1 in 25,6ah. And Chinese cells in 20.8ah). So weight should be really similar between models (maybe differ 1kg at most)
PMT tires are awesome. I took the vinyl tires off of my Dualtron and put on PMT this summer. W O W !!! That said, I just noticed he said he's considering off road tires - in which case I wouldn't care what I used as long as they were durable. Vinyl would be OK for me off road.
Good call about the battery cell quality. Hadn't thought of that but it makes total sense. Everyone preaches about the PMT tires but I've yet to hear anyone really explain what the difference in ride quality is like. It comes across as people who spent a lot of $ on an upgrade, and worked hard to swap the tires, being placebo effected into thinking they are amazing. I'm sure they are good, but what are the real differences? If I can ride and turn easily at full speed on the stock tires, where does the improvement with PMTs come from? Can you guys try to explain it a bit for me? I might try them out, but it seems like a lot of work for what could end up being a mediocre performance upgrade.
@@GingerOnWheels if i recall they are rubber tires. They grip better in corners and are a-bit quieter. I think it’s not that hard to swap them as the vsett 10 has split rims right? Have not tried them myself as i drive vsett 9+ and they don’t make a model that size.
@@GingerOnWheels For me the best I can describe it is that they are very grippy when turning. Another thing is that they feel more comfortable. If you've ever ridden bicycles then you know people talk about How better quality tires absorb more road vibration and feel more comfortable I find this to be somewhat the case with PMT. Though the difference is not as crazy since you have very good suspension on the Vsett 10+. Another good option if you're not looking to spend a lot of money is the CST 10x3 tires on Ali express. They Are a lot more comfortable than the hota tires you see on Amazon and they are a very similar price. For me the main positive of the PMT attire is that I would see a lot of flats on the cheap stock tires because the inside of the tire would wear out and expose the metal threads inside the nylon. This would cause endless flat tires but on the PMTI do not have that issue. Overall I think it's worth the money but If budget is tight then that money is probably better spent on upgrading the suspension or Replacing the folding humble bar with a good quality and solid wide handlebar
@@GingerOnWheels The main advantages from PMTs are more grip which will make you find yourself going faster around corners. Better durability, it's rubber vs nylon the rubber will last much longer. The tyres balance themselves better which removes vibrations from an unbalanced wheel. I have also found punctures to be less of an issue but that could just be luck.
Got my Mantis 10 Lite and love it…sixty miles in my first week of ownership. Only complaint is that the charger receptacle protective cap cannot be waterproof or barely water resistant. On another matter…get the book “Eat Bacon Don’t Jog NO B.S.”. You don’t need to read the book, just read the beginning to learn how to lose the weight. I took six inches off my waist six years ago and have kept it off. After that you’ll have to figure out a diet that you can live with…good luck!
I did get my range extender battery fixed and I went almost 70 miles range with that extra battery using part of 1 and 2 speed. I was blown away. Yeah and I do wear glasses and I get tears when it is cold when you ride fast. It is normal.
Nice! I have one of these as well the 25Ah battery, love it! You mentioned in previous videos you used to be into motorcycles; how come no more? Would be cool to see it on the channel, maybe add a new sports bike.
I did a video a few months back on the Harley LiveWire. 0-60 in like 3 seconds. That was fun. I'm just not so much into gas powered things anymore. All the noise, maintenance, rules and regulations, gas, ECT. It's more fun to test the cutting edge tech, even if it's just a scooter or unicycle. 🙂
Hello sir great videos as usual quick question I'm looking at a VSETT 10+R with the LG battery are they safe to leave indoors do we have to worry about fires
@@GingerOnWheels oh it’s gotta come from you, In my family we call her “La Poderosa” means the powerful one, to distinguish in conversation from my other scoot the Ninebot max lol
Congrats on getting your 10+. Nice Vid. What I like most about the 10+ is the ability to throw it in the car and take rides outside the city. Can't do that with anything bigger. Took a ride around Fall City, WA and it was a blast. I did invest in an extended battery (1536wh) and my range (on warmer days) doubled to what I am guessing will be over 70mi. I say warmer days, the extended battery bag is not insulated, reducing total range. So I am also trying some neoprene insulation in the bag and will install on top and bottom of my main battery. Hopefully that solves the cold-weather riding range issue. The steering damper for me solidifies the ride. Next up, PMT tires. The Touvt that came with the scooter are pretty badly out of round, causing high speed vibration. I had heard that the PMT's will fix that. Also, the new EXA FORM 291R shocks help rebound significantly.
Yeah that's the thing I love about it most as well. It's got darn near just as much power as the massive scooters, but weighs half as much. Couple that with the easily foldable bars and slim profile... The thing is practically perfect.
I used that flex seal on my deck and it cracked the four corners of the deck, I have put some rubber mats on the deck now all around the edge of the deck, no more foot slipping off the edge, looks good too😀
Thanks 😊. Useful video. Why Mukuta put two spring suspension on each wheel. What is benefits pf it. I like mukuta review and vsett10 i like and i want to make right choice Thanks
Waiting to see your video about water proofing. Mean while enjoying cruising with my Vsett 10+R ❤️ PS. Like you said, the turn signals and horn are joke.
"first time I pulled a scooter out of the box and ripped on it at 50mph!" - stem saftey latch screw not screwed in... lol, glad that didn't bite you in the ass!
I can't wait to buy this next year hope the vsett brand is still ongoing selling cause many more other eScooter brand coming out in 2024 so I choose vsett is the best xD
@gingeronwheels I wrote you from your website but just in case it didn’t send I’ll ask here. Hello Ginger on Wheels. I’m new to electric scooters and I’ve been watching a ton of TH-cam reviews. I love watching your videos! I bought 2 kukirin G2 max scooters and they are a lot of fun n but I definitely need more! I’m 235 lbs and I really like what I see from the Vsett 10+. I realize I need dual motor to be able to handle hills. Should I wait for the new 10 Apex or go ahead and get the current model? What do you think? Thanks
I have the 8+ and it's fun to ride but it has so many problems. The screws become extreamly loose every week and need to be tightened, I've had screws and reflectors literally fall off. I had to take off, clean, and put loctite in each screw and put them back on. I've had the throttle get messed up where the scooter randomly goes by itself causing it to almost get launched out into traffic at a crosswalk. And so many times it started doing that randomly where it's as if the throttle is being pulled randomly every 2 seconds and once it starts doing that. It takes weeks to stop. I've also had the screws strip soooo easily. When I took the scooter out of the box, the thing with the DDM button was put on sooo tight that the multi tool literally broke when trying to loosen it. I also had the connector for the wires for the front wheel just unplug itself right when I got it and I didn't realize it. The breaks are also super hard to pull and the break cable for the front wheel keeps slipping out of the hole that it's rests in causing it to completely stop working. The front break also always gets stuck in. I've also had the suspension and front wheel start squeaking sooooo loud out of no where. Also I've tightened every screw but it still rattles sooo loud as if it's about to fall apart. I literally clean everything, put WD40 on everything, and tighten all of the screws and put loctite on them and it still feels soooo janky and loose. Also the rubber that seals the wires that go into the breaks for the turn signal buttons are pulled out exposing the wires, it came like that and I tried to fix it but it keeps slipping out
Honestly I think it’s been out classed by the new Mantis King GT , adjustable suspension, Sinewave controllers with the Wolf King GT Display and settings configurability / password option without losing an NFC key all for the same or slightly cheaper
If you're okay with occasionally jerky sinewave response, cruise control glitches, and a smaller battery then sure. It's very close competition. I'm maintaining my weariness of the Kaabo brand, as it was just 6 months ago that their top of the line model was catching fire. Keep in mind I have owned the Kaabo Mantis pro SE, Kaabo 11+, King, and king gt. To each their own I suppose. Those are my thoughts coming from someone who's never ridden the Mantis King gt. Perhaps my perspective will change once I get one for review. Time will tell.
@@GingerOnWheels I haven't heard anything about jerky sinewave controllers and I do always here people praise the vsett 10+ but there's plenty of people on reddit and TH-cam who also claim their vsett suspension isn't as great as you claim it to be. And claiming it's as good as the nami with it's adjustable suspension seems to be a bit of a stretch. Almost everyone states their vsetts front suspension is wobbly and bouncy at anything over 40mph and needs to be upgraded just enjoy the higher speeds. Also almost every I've seen ends up replacing the handlebars over stability concerns at high speeds.
@@mikhail716 did you watch the video I just made? Carving back and forth at 45mph? If you beat the suspension to hell and compress the springs too hard then it'll chatter around at high speed, sure. When / if that happens just spend $80 and get the exa form 291R. I'm sure there are people out there who swear by the zero 10x too, like I said. To each their own. This is my content and opinions and I think it's the best scooter out there.
It would be... I'm really curious how the two stack up against eachother. I don't know anyone that owns the Mantis GT though and I don't think I'll be getting one for testing. Maybe I can beg Voro hard enough to send me a demo.
Bro I’m probably about to get this . I was about to pull the trigger on the rovoron kulter luxury for 1299$! But they sold out the day I decided to get it . There is still green available but I’m really not interested in that color. I was between that and the vsette10 so looks like I’m going with the vsette ! Any other recommendations you might have considering this video is a bit older . The maxfun10pro looks really good as well.
cool video like always, best scooter.. quite strong motors, also I weight 140kgs and use it with a full bag-pack with groceries, the suspension stock settings never hit bottom so far
Your initial comment got deleted as I was replying to it.... but anyway FYI, I switched speed modes multiple times in this video while riding. I also had Regen on 3 out of 5. I definitely agree with the 45-50psi for these tires, higher than most but they are prone to flats at lower pressures. Good tips for sure. Edit: I've been in the VSETT forums since I got my first demo vsett 10+ last year.
all cool 👍🏽 not the speed modes, its said one/two motors, I switch it when very slow, no throttle and wait a few seconds before throttle. Regen its said only fry’s a controller when used with a full battery. Would be good to hear from Vsett that those issues are resolved.
@@chrigdichein ahhh, yeah I can see Regen frying the bms or controller if you have a 100% charge already. That happens on electric unicycles too, except those just turn off and dump you into the pavement face first. 😅
Good question, let me charge one up to full and tell you exactly. I think it's around 1:37 at full power, 3 hours at 1000 lumens, 6 hours at 500 lumens and 30 hours at 100 lumens. I'll get back to you though.
The first VSETT demo I got did have that high speed chatter. This new one doesn't. It's possible that the issue will develop over time but we'll have to wait and see.
Im about to order ..maybe from the same company but theyre 100 more than another.. but it comes with a damper... what kind of damper do they give? I reached out to them and left a voicemail but i wanna know now! Thanks
FatDaddy, EUC sale, and Speedio appear to sell them in the EU. Keep in mind I've never heard of those companies so do some digging, but it looks promising!
It's good for hills, but I find it a lot more dangerous in dual mode if it's slick conditions. In dual mode the front tire can easily loose traction and that's when you fall if you're turning.
Man. I’ve got an iScooter max that I’ve been the heck out of and an 88 Peugeot conversion that I ride around St Pete, FL. Your excitement after years of experience and decided to buy the 10+R after everything else you’ve ridden. Does one buy a motorcycle? unlimited range, but get stuck in traffic still? Or does one spend a 1 1/4 ton of dollars on a VSETT 10+R? Sucks to be a Libra 😂😂
Buy a quality motorcycle, plus all the gas, oil, parts you'll use in 2 years. Then take all the time you'll save not waiting in traffic and multiply that by how much you're worth per hour. If that cost is less than $2800 then get the motorcycle. I can almost guarantee you, though, it won't be. 🙃
@@GingerOnWheels lol, you'll have to send me more information on that 🤣. I don't care about the warranty 🙊, I'm mean... I would love to be educated on new electronic upgrades. Lol
Please what you think I ride Vsett8 and I'm OK with him cos in Croatia is 25km max but Its litle boring on biger rides so I'm thinking 9+ or 10+ is it 2ares old model too old because to mee is practical and I can comute to work also go on hils wich I didn't even try on Vsett8 cos its 1 motor and I like it same also is god price 1.750€ and parts I'm set for ears of riding . Cos Vsett8 will bee for work and 10+ for riping what do you think or something alse . I wish you beutuful holidays from Croatia.
I just learned that the GINGER50 discount code is still active during the RevRides Fall sale! So you get $50 off, a free steering damper AND accessory pouch! Never been a better time to buy a VSETT.
Hey after a couple crashes my brake levels are loose how do I fix it
Please tell me where you guys get replacement bolts for the Vsett? I lost the split hub black bolts, anyone know the size of these things and where can I find replacement bolts..????HELPPPPP !
@@GidDree or you can go to a hardware store
@@GidDree the hardware store. Take one of the remaining ones out and go to the hardware store and find replacements. Ez
apart from the fact it costs almost 3k.... a 50 off that price is nothing
I have a 10R+ and just love it for all the common reasons . A couple things U will say, though. Mine was delivered in a loose condition that gave it very bad steering “death” wobble at anything over about 20 - 22 mph. Since it was new, I thought this may be a common issue and responded by riding accordingly so that I do not die prematurely. I had to send it back after about six months due to rear motor failure, which ended up being the rear controller issue. However, the mechanic also noticed that the suspension was “loose” and tightened it. The steering wobble was gone and I could comfortably ride up to 35-40 mph. My entire first season was relegated to 20 mph or less because of this issue. Then there are all the flats I got. 11 flats on the first 500 miles! Worse than that is what is actually required in order to change a flat which is a very miserably difficult experience that does not get much easier with time. Getting the new tube into place requires an immense amount of very difficult manipulation especially if you do not have a custom workshop in your basement. While my flats have started to come much less frequently, for reasons unknown, changing flats are still as miserable as ever. So, if you buy a new one that wobbles over 20 moh, have the suspension checked right away. And, if you are not minimally mechanically inclined, this product is not for you. Eventually, after the honeymoon has passed, it will require much more than expected to keep it “on the road”. I suspect that a lot of these types of scooters end up collecting dust in the basement, right where your custom work shop could be instead.
Good info. So what part on the suspension was loose and had to be tightened. So we can check ours
Just used your code to get one, it comes today and I'm so excited! I don't think I would've gotten a 10+ if it weren't for your amazing vids, keep up the great work!!
Final price??
These things have to be the best invention of this century. The torque these have is insanely fun
I second that one of the best inventions.
i actually have NO interest in scooters AT ALL. But I did buy a Himiway Cruiser recently as well as another ebike to go with it. I am interested in BMX racing bikes (which are expensive AF), but after watching this as well as some of your other videos (LOVED the one where you did the SNOW ride! lol) I am actually thinking about getting this VSETT 10+ ( I was budgeting on a BMX racing bike which range from 400 up to 900 dollars for next month but could buy this instead!). Like I said I have ZERO interest in scooters, but your vids are so fun to watch I feel like you are my best friend and we are riding together just from watching you! Thank you so much for the great content and keep up the reviews!
bought a vsett 10+ yesterday with your code it still works!!!! getting it tuesday!!
Welcome officially to the vsett 10+ club! Now good luck sorting through the hail storm of upgrade recommendations to make your ride even more stellar. As is the 10 probably has all the features you want if you're just riding it for fun; But if you need it to be anything more you will probably start looking at longer handlebars, better horn/bell, better front light, etc.
yess just bought mine! and I love it, have the steering damper and put wider bars thing is a beast!
Dude! Great review. Sold me. Thanks for the discount code! This thing is actually cheap for all of the features it has. I have almost $12 K into my electric mountain bike and it is the funnest toy I have ever had in my life. I have a feeling this thing is going to be a close second!
bought 1.
put adjustable air suspension.
put thumb drive on.
at 2k miles now.
absolutely no problems.
rode it with my wife all together off roads.
loving it.
riding alone Ive gone 60+ miles on single charge.
Link for air suspension?
And thumb throttle?
Thanks for the original video because I bought mine after multiple reviews. I love mine and I’ve only had a few flats. I did blow out controller in a massive rain storm. Thank you for pointing out the coverage of the horn I didn’t know that’s a point of seeping
I love my Vsett 10+ R !!! (chose it mainly from your original review). I have over 1,600 miles on it so far. Upgrades I've done are:
- New solid, wider handlebars
- Steering damper
- PMT tires (definitely worth it!)
- New horn
- 2x headlights
- Mirror
Best range I have gotten is about 45 miles, mostly gear 1. That would probably be my biggest complaint, I was hoping for a little bit more but still not bad at all for a scooter. If you really like the suspension, adding the PMT tires makes the ride even softer. It's like a luxury sedan.
I'm really looking forward to more videos from you on the 10+, especially any mods you do. Be safe, have fun!
Glad you're liking it so far! I'm curious, with that 45mile range what size battery did your vsett come with? Was it the 28ah? Mind sharing your riding weight with gear? I'm about 225 so I'm not sure what to expect.
Man... Everyone preaches about those pmt tires. If the originals are out of balance it usually works for me to just deflate them, freespin up the motors for a second, then reinflate the tires. If the tires are the same PSI, how can PMT feel squishier? I guess I need to try them eventually.
I'm sure I'll need to upgrade to the 291R when I get to smashing this thing off-road. What size coil did you go with?
@@GingerOnWheels Hey Ginger, yes, it is the 28ah battery. I weigh about 185 without gear, maybe an additional 10-15 with? The 45 mile ride was on a pretty hilly trail with lots of ups and downs. So there was a lot of coasting down hill, then power going uphill. It probably will do better on flatter ground, but I don't really have a way to test that. I had regen braking on level 1 for that ride. I'm not a big fan of it and don't use it much, but thought I could take advantage of all the downhill portions of the ride.
And the PMTs, I only upgraded because they were a gift, I really wasn't having many issues with the stock ones. But once I tried them, I could feel a difference right away. And I don't know if I would say squishier, but smoother maybe. Really hard to describe, but like I said, I noticed a difference. Come out to Atlanta some time you can give it a shot!
And I have NOT upgraded the suspension, but that is probably my next thing.
Hye @media xr.. would you mind to share the photo of your scooter? Please
Any problems? I'm thinking about getting one
@@bogard887 I did have a controller failure at about 2,500 miles. It was still under warranty from Revrides and they were helpful in getting the replacement and troubleshooting with the install. I still really love the 10+, but it has required several upgrades to get it where it's at, so keep that in mind. But I would still recommend it to anyone - once you have it dialed in for yourself, it is an awesome ride
Currently own a Ninebot E45. It's super durable except for the folding mechanism's spring. I decided after your video last year that the Vsett 10+ was gonna be my next scooter. That's still the plan! Thanks GoW
Hello Ginger your channel is undoubtedly the best educational channel out there on Hyper scooters. I am looking at purchasing the Vsett 10+R does this scooter use brushless motors I can't find an answer on their website? Thank you
Proud to be a fan 👍
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I simply can’t wait to get this. Because of YOU I’m getting it. Just as JR said, I’m proud to be a fan :).
I appreciate each and every one of you guys and girls watching these videos. The amount of money I make from TH-cam is a pittance compared to my old office job, but I've never been a happier human. I will never stop!
@@GingerOnWheelsYeahh, scooters are not just mere fun but really enhance quality of life, get outside more, etc
7:51 if you get water in the motors, it ruins them? I have the Vsett 8+ and I road mine threw a puddle that was sooo deep that the deck was completely submerged and my shoes got wet. I road threw that puddle for like 20 seconds and I road threw the same puddle like 3 times. That was like 5 months ago. Is that bad? It still works perfectly tho. I thought it was water proof
got it recently despite availability of Mukuta and Apex. I prefer the design here and foldable handlebar. Doing 55km with the smallest battery. Added a proper front shock and little 3D improvements everywhere. It fits a regular european trunk with other scooters.
this is my fave vid of yours ever. sick ride footage is the essence.
flex seal commercials were running non stop at one point surprised your just now learning about it .
Nice to see the review
Hopefully you had a good vacation
I did, indeed. One of the best vacations of my life.
Just bought one, living in Bangkok Thailand, incredible. I do agree when you get up to speed, need that steering damper. Other than that, more power than my VSETT 9 and just not in the same category. Recommend this scooter. Thanks for the review GOW!
I found the wobbles go away at high speed if you adjust your body position.
It looks like so much fun. 💪
Great video, that is what people need to see not how it rides.
That quality of the RS is the reason I don’t sell Kaabo anymore.
Awesome Mr. Wheels, always good to start a thursday morning with a GingerOnWheels video... Thanks man...👍👍👍
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for always stopping by to show support. 🙂
Hopefully you're having better luck with yours and I did with mine, 1 motor change, 2 key fob changes, 1 speed control change, at this point they just gave me a new model and I sold it before anything could go wrong with it, it was fun it was great but it had a lot of issues and this is before I had 500 km in Canada on it
Could you do a video on Waterproofing this? I'm going to purchase this scooter in the next month or so and am planning on doing the same. This will be my first scooter and I'm clueless on how to do anything. I'm in the Seattle area and it would be pretty awesome to come along with some group rides int he future.
I did group ride in San Francisco last week on my Vsett 10+. It’s amazing scooter for the price.
It's the best under 3k! Until some other scooter comes along and proves me wrong, I stand by that.
I’m one of the sickos that has about seven scooters and undoubtably the Vsett 10+ hits the sweet spot. It is absolutely all anybody needs and it’s very port. My favorite…. The 11+ is a little beefier, but it’s not portable it’s too big.
Thanks. Can you say something about Mukuta 10+. Some say it,s away better than vsett10+. Thanks.
And another question. Is it safe to buy from AliExpress. Just 1000$ cheaper than here in Sydney. Thanks.
Love the video but i don't understand when you say "need to waterproof"? I use my Vsett 9+ in Sweden year round and drive thru everything no problems with water.
Also Revrides is shipping them with new display installed now. Mine came today. Ordered it exactly a week ago
I recommend trying the pmt efire tires for this scooter.
Also, the battery is the same config on all vsett model’s. The difference is the cells used (LG Mj1 in 28ah pack, LG mh1 in 25,6ah. And Chinese cells in 20.8ah). So weight should be really similar between models (maybe differ 1kg at most)
PMT tires are awesome. I took the vinyl tires off of my Dualtron and put on PMT this summer. W O W !!!
That said, I just noticed he said he's considering off road tires - in which case I wouldn't care what I used as long as they were durable. Vinyl would be OK for me off road.
Good call about the battery cell quality. Hadn't thought of that but it makes total sense.
Everyone preaches about the PMT tires but I've yet to hear anyone really explain what the difference in ride quality is like. It comes across as people who spent a lot of $ on an upgrade, and worked hard to swap the tires, being placebo effected into thinking they are amazing. I'm sure they are good, but what are the real differences? If I can ride and turn easily at full speed on the stock tires, where does the improvement with PMTs come from? Can you guys try to explain it a bit for me? I might try them out, but it seems like a lot of work for what could end up being a mediocre performance upgrade.
@@GingerOnWheels if i recall they are rubber tires. They grip better in corners and are a-bit quieter. I think it’s not that hard to swap them as the vsett 10 has split rims right? Have not tried them myself as i drive vsett 9+ and they don’t make a model that size.
@@GingerOnWheels For me the best I can describe it is that they are very grippy when turning. Another thing is that they feel more comfortable. If you've ever ridden bicycles then you know people talk about How better quality tires absorb more road vibration and feel more comfortable I find this to be somewhat the case with PMT. Though the difference is not as crazy since you have very good suspension on the Vsett 10+. Another good option if you're not looking to spend a lot of money is the CST 10x3 tires on Ali express. They Are a lot more comfortable than the hota tires you see on Amazon and they are a very similar price. For me the main positive of the PMT attire is that I would see a lot of flats on the cheap stock tires because the inside of the tire would wear out and expose the metal threads inside the nylon. This would cause endless flat tires but on the PMTI do not have that issue. Overall I think it's worth the money but If budget is tight then that money is probably better spent on upgrading the suspension or Replacing the folding humble bar with a good quality and solid wide handlebar
@@GingerOnWheels The main advantages from PMTs are more grip which will make you find yourself going faster around corners. Better durability, it's rubber vs nylon the rubber will last much longer. The tyres balance themselves better which removes vibrations from an unbalanced wheel. I have also found punctures to be less of an issue but that could just be luck.
Got my Mantis 10 Lite and love it…sixty miles in my first week of ownership. Only complaint is that the charger receptacle protective cap cannot be waterproof or barely water resistant.
On another matter…get the book “Eat Bacon Don’t Jog NO B.S.”. You don’t need to read the book, just read the beginning to learn how to lose the weight. I took six inches off my waist six years ago and have kept it off. After that you’ll have to figure out a diet that you can live with…good luck!
I did get my range extender battery fixed and I went almost 70 miles range with that extra battery using part of 1 and 2 speed. I was blown away. Yeah and I do wear glasses and I get tears when it is cold when you ride fast. It is normal.
Nice! I have one of these as well the 25Ah battery, love it! You mentioned in previous videos you used to be into motorcycles; how come no more? Would be cool to see it on the channel, maybe add a new sports bike.
I did a video a few months back on the Harley LiveWire. 0-60 in like 3 seconds. That was fun. I'm just not so much into gas powered things anymore. All the noise, maintenance, rules and regulations, gas, ECT. It's more fun to test the cutting edge tech, even if it's just a scooter or unicycle. 🙂
I bought mine in June of this year because of your older video.
Hey bro did you end up modding this scooter like you said you were going to? would love to see an update video if so. Love the vids
Hello sir great videos as usual quick question I'm looking at a VSETT 10+R with the LG battery are they safe to leave indoors do we have to worry about fires
I spotted a ginger on wheels 😳 and been subscribed ever since.
My favourite ginger!! So happy you finally got it!! Gotta give er a name!! :)
Ohh that's very true. "VSETT 10+R" doesn't exactly roll off the tounge. Any ideas for a name? 🤔
@@GingerOnWheels oh it’s gotta come from you, In my family we call her “La Poderosa” means the powerful one, to distinguish in conversation from my other scoot the Ninebot max lol
Congrats on getting your 10+. Nice Vid. What I like most about the 10+ is the ability to throw it in the car and take rides outside the city. Can't do that with anything bigger. Took a ride around Fall City, WA and it was a blast. I did invest in an extended battery (1536wh) and my range (on warmer days) doubled to what I am guessing will be over 70mi. I say warmer days, the extended battery bag is not insulated, reducing total range. So I am also trying some neoprene insulation in the bag and will install on top and bottom of my main battery. Hopefully that solves the cold-weather riding range issue. The steering damper for me solidifies the ride. Next up, PMT tires. The Touvt that came with the scooter are pretty badly out of round, causing high speed vibration. I had heard that the PMT's will fix that. Also, the new EXA FORM 291R shocks help rebound significantly.
Yeah that's the thing I love about it most as well. It's got darn near just as much power as the massive scooters, but weighs half as much. Couple that with the easily foldable bars and slim profile... The thing is practically perfect.
Waking to see if a new model will come out with that new big display
It did. I got it
Great review! Would you still recommend the 10+R at this time?
I used that flex seal on my deck and it cracked the four corners of the deck, I have put some rubber mats on the deck now all around the edge of the deck, no more foot slipping off the edge, looks good too😀
Thanks 😊. Useful video. Why Mukuta put two spring suspension on each wheel. What is benefits pf it. I like mukuta review and vsett10 i like and i want to make right choice
Thanks
Hey I am big fan of you and I was wondering where you buy your electric scooters ❤❤
Waiting to see your video about water proofing. Mean while enjoying cruising with my Vsett 10+R ❤️
PS. Like you said, the turn signals and horn are joke.
I was gonna get a dualtron from watching electric scooter acendemy but I think this is the one for me especially the price range ty brotha
Man!! I love this scooter🔥🔥🔥🔥
Your last review set me off wanting a Vsett9+R probably going to be the same after I've seen this one too 😅
"first time I pulled a scooter out of the box and ripped on it at 50mph!" - stem saftey latch screw not screwed in... lol, glad that didn't bite you in the ass!
Appreciate your
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So if cost is no object
Which is your first choise
Vsset
Várla eagle one
Mantis king GT?
Thanks
I love Sammamish River Trail, hoping to hit it again when its dry
I can't wait to buy this next year hope the vsett brand is still ongoing selling cause many more other eScooter brand coming out in 2024 so I choose vsett is the best xD
@gingeronwheels I wrote you from your website but just in case it didn’t send I’ll ask here. Hello Ginger on Wheels. I’m new to electric scooters and I’ve been watching a ton of TH-cam reviews. I love watching your videos! I bought 2 kukirin G2 max scooters and they are a lot of fun n but I definitely need more! I’m 235 lbs and I really like what I see from the Vsett 10+. I realize I need dual motor to be able to handle hills. Should I wait for the new 10 Apex or go ahead and get the current model? What do you think? Thanks
Nice rip it up scoot safe. Looks like a nice ride.
Another legendary review from Ginger on Wheels makes even me want to buy one!
Yea steve with all that money u made ripping people off on that go fund me you should def have the money to buy one 🤣😅 ha haaaa
I have the 8+ and it's fun to ride but it has so many problems. The screws become extreamly loose every week and need to be tightened, I've had screws and reflectors literally fall off. I had to take off, clean, and put loctite in each screw and put them back on. I've had the throttle get messed up where the scooter randomly goes by itself causing it to almost get launched out into traffic at a crosswalk. And so many times it started doing that randomly where it's as if the throttle is being pulled randomly every 2 seconds and once it starts doing that. It takes weeks to stop. I've also had the screws strip soooo easily. When I took the scooter out of the box, the thing with the DDM button was put on sooo tight that the multi tool literally broke when trying to loosen it. I also had the connector for the wires for the front wheel just unplug itself right when I got it and I didn't realize it. The breaks are also super hard to pull and the break cable for the front wheel keeps slipping out of the hole that it's rests in causing it to completely stop working. The front break also always gets stuck in. I've also had the suspension and front wheel start squeaking sooooo loud out of no where. Also I've tightened every screw but it still rattles sooo loud as if it's about to fall apart. I literally clean everything, put WD40 on everything, and tighten all of the screws and put loctite on them and it still feels soooo janky and loose. Also the rubber that seals the wires that go into the breaks for the turn signal buttons are pulled out exposing the wires, it came like that and I tried to fix it but it keeps slipping out
How do you program the card into your phone? I can't find out how for the life of me. BTW I bought the fire light and I love it.
Visett 10+ or Wolf X, both for similar price, which is better? Thanks
Which one do you think to consider beside Visett 10+?
Maybe you can get your hands on a Mukuta 10+?? Looks like an upgraded version of this scooter.
just bought a vsett 8 and now i wish i bought this one haha time to start saving!
i definitely want one!
Great video man. You're absolutely right about the PEV crack down. The ban hammer feels like its right around the corner here in NYC =/
Have you used the flex seal on the motors yet? If so, how's it working
Hey after a couple crashes my brake levels are loose how do I fix it
oh Hey Ginger ! very quick question.... how much values all your eScooter collection ?
Could you somehow sometimes show it us ??? pls!
Respect
Honestly I think it’s been out classed by the new Mantis King GT , adjustable suspension, Sinewave controllers with the Wolf King GT Display and settings configurability / password option without losing an NFC key all for the same or slightly cheaper
My thoughts as well.
If you're okay with occasionally jerky sinewave response, cruise control glitches, and a smaller battery then sure. It's very close competition. I'm maintaining my weariness of the Kaabo brand, as it was just 6 months ago that their top of the line model was catching fire. Keep in mind I have owned the Kaabo Mantis pro SE, Kaabo 11+, King, and king gt. To each their own I suppose. Those are my thoughts coming from someone who's never ridden the Mantis King gt. Perhaps my perspective will change once I get one for review. Time will tell.
@@GingerOnWheels I haven't heard anything about jerky sinewave controllers and I do always here people praise the vsett 10+ but there's plenty of people on reddit and TH-cam who also claim their vsett suspension isn't as great as you claim it to be. And claiming it's as good as the nami with it's adjustable suspension seems to be a bit of a stretch. Almost everyone states their vsetts front suspension is wobbly and bouncy at anything over 40mph and needs to be upgraded just enjoy the higher speeds. Also almost every I've seen ends up replacing the handlebars over stability concerns at high speeds.
@@mikhail716 did you watch the video I just made? Carving back and forth at 45mph? If you beat the suspension to hell and compress the springs too hard then it'll chatter around at high speed, sure. When / if that happens just spend $80 and get the exa form 291R. I'm sure there are people out there who swear by the zero 10x too, like I said. To each their own. This is my content and opinions and I think it's the best scooter out there.
Congrats on the scooter! Would be awesome if you could sometime compare it with the Kaabo Mantis King GT
It would be... I'm really curious how the two stack up against eachother. I don't know anyone that owns the Mantis GT though and I don't think I'll be getting one for testing. Maybe I can beg Voro hard enough to send me a demo.
I thought that the new display and throttle would be on this pre-installed if you just bought it? Or did you choose to not have that?
Bro I’m probably about to get this . I was about to pull the trigger on the rovoron kulter luxury for 1299$! But they sold out the day I decided to get it . There is still green available but I’m really not interested in that color. I was between that and the vsette10 so looks like I’m going with the vsette ! Any other recommendations you might have considering this video is a bit older . The maxfun10pro looks really good as well.
If you don't off-road at all then the Makuta 10+ is also worth a look.
I want one so bad now and it would be perfect living in SF.
Looks good but, the display and throttle are so outdated especially for the price. Does it have an IP rating?
This scooter looks awesome out the box.
It's definitely a looker 😉
Damper makes it so much less fun imo. Also, street tires front and hybrid rear is a great combo
How do you even turn on the turn signals ? Wdym you can’t turn them off ?
Do you prefer this vsett over mantis king gt?
And the new display fr alien rides is tight
I regret getting a Zero 9 and 10x instead of the Vsett 10+. Was a waste of money lol, but very happy with my Nami at least.
cool video like always, best scooter.. quite strong motors, also I weight 140kgs and use it with a full bag-pack with groceries, the suspension stock settings never hit bottom so far
Your initial comment got deleted as I was replying to it.... but anyway FYI, I switched speed modes multiple times in this video while riding. I also had Regen on 3 out of 5.
I definitely agree with the 45-50psi for these tires, higher than most but they are prone to flats at lower pressures. Good tips for sure.
Edit: I've been in the VSETT forums since I got my first demo vsett 10+ last year.
all cool 👍🏽 not the speed modes, its said one/two motors, I switch it when very slow, no throttle and wait a few seconds before throttle.
Regen its said only fry’s a controller when used with a full battery. Would be good to hear from Vsett that those issues are resolved.
@@chrigdichein ahhh, yeah I can see Regen frying the bms or controller if you have a 100% charge already. That happens on electric unicycles too, except those just turn off and dump you into the pavement face first. 😅
@@GingerOnWheels does the vsett 9+ have regenative braking?
140kg!? That's honestly a really good stress test for it. Thanks for sharing, really proves it.
How long will the pevfirelight last on a charge? The website doesn’t say.
Good question, let me charge one up to full and tell you exactly. I think it's around 1:37 at full power, 3 hours at 1000 lumens, 6 hours at 500 lumens and 30 hours at 100 lumens. I'll get back to you though.
Got it!
32 hours at 100lumen .
6 hours 25 min at 500 lumen
3hour 30 min at 1000 lumen
1 hour 36min at 2000 lumen
@@GingerOnWheels Awesome, thanks! I am saving up for the Vsett 10+. One I get it I will definitely buy one of those lights.
this or the new kaabo mantis king gt which should i get ppl?
What's your current weight? Been thinking about getting one for ages but afraid I might break it.
About 225-230 with gear, depending if I brought my charger / water / snacks with me.
Are you still looking for euc batteries for firesack testing?
I just ordered mine from revrides. I got the 26 ah one. couldnt afford the bigger battery
Are they legal to ride on the highway? l have one similar 3000w x two its crazy, worried about riding it on the road
Doesn't the front wheel get a wobble at higher speeds? Will the damper help? Or up grade the front suspension
The first VSETT demo I got did have that high speed chatter. This new one doesn't. It's possible that the issue will develop over time but we'll have to wait and see.
@@GingerOnWheels Thanks you give great information and reviews.
Im about to order ..maybe from the same company but theyre 100 more than another.. but it comes with a damper... what kind of damper do they give? I reached out to them and left a voicemail but i wanna know now! Thanks
Great scooter
Love this thing, searching if it's available in Europe. Thanks dude 😎
FatDaddy, EUC sale, and Speedio appear to sell them in the EU. Keep in mind I've never heard of those companies so do some digging, but it looks promising!
@@GingerOnWheels Thanks again, will investigate 👍
"he had his phone pointed at me" 😆
The dual motor button is good for riding in the rain or wet conditions.
It's good for hills, but I find it a lot more dangerous in dual mode if it's slick conditions. In dual mode the front tire can easily loose traction and that's when you fall if you're turning.
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Vset 10 is always recommended 2wd mode. Riding fwd off is not good for fwd controller.
Man. I’ve got an iScooter max that I’ve been the heck out of and an 88 Peugeot conversion that I ride around St Pete, FL. Your excitement after years of experience and decided to buy the 10+R after everything else you’ve ridden. Does one buy a motorcycle? unlimited range, but get stuck in traffic still? Or does one spend a 1 1/4 ton of dollars on a VSETT 10+R? Sucks to be a Libra 😂😂
Buy a quality motorcycle, plus all the gas, oil, parts you'll use in 2 years. Then take all the time you'll save not waiting in traffic and multiply that by how much you're worth per hour. If that cost is less than $2800 then get the motorcycle. I can almost guarantee you, though, it won't be. 🙃
@@GingerOnWheels you say 2800. Are you saying that’s the cost when you get the the fast charger?
Just bought mine but shit over $2000 honestly never thought I would do this lol but I’m risking it
Can you compare this to mantis king?
It's still my favorite scooter as well! I just wish I got the big battery 🔋 😕 😪. I do hate the horn though.
You can always hit up someone like MyMaxMods to void your warranty, oops, I mean build you a bigger battery. They can build external kits.
@@GingerOnWheels lol, you'll have to send me more information on that 🤣. I don't care about the warranty 🙊, I'm mean... I would love to be educated on new electronic upgrades. Lol
Do you recommend this over the Segway gt2?
Completely different use cases. But if price were not a factor and I did more street than off-road riding, yes I'd consider it.
@@GingerOnWheels just watched the video where you rented it after I commented. I do commute in the rain here in Chicago maybe the gt2 is best
Mine came with that pouch but I put it in my storage unit and now I can't find it but I want to use it so bad
Please what you think I ride Vsett8 and I'm OK with him cos in Croatia is 25km max but Its litle boring on biger rides so I'm thinking 9+ or 10+ is it 2ares old model too old because to mee is practical and I can comute to work also go on hils wich I didn't even try on Vsett8 cos its 1 motor and I like it same also is god price 1.750€ and parts I'm set for ears of riding . Cos Vsett8 will bee for work and 10+ for riping what do you think or something alse . I wish you beutuful holidays from Croatia.