Ser Preston Greenfield and Ser Arys Oakhearth and maybe Ser Balon Swann are the only ones of the Kingsguard in the time of the books ho are worth something i don`t talk about ser Baristan because he didn`t start in Robert`s time
@@godemperorofmankind3.091 tbh, Roberts Kingsguard wasnt as bad as it is often treated. It was mostly Blount and Trant that were a disgrace, the others were mostly just meh with the exception of Mandon Moore and two of the best swordsman ever, Jaime Lannister and Barristan Selmy.
It seems between Aerys line up of studs and Aegon the Unworthy having Aemon the Dragonknight at his call that the shittiest kings always had the most bitchin' Kingsguards.... which I guess makes a sort of sense lol
Hey there! So this was seriously one of my favorite videos by you so far, because i've been curious about the old and current members of the Kingsguard. I just wonder if you could actually make a video about Ser Duncan the Tall? I haven't read the books yet so I am not sure how much details there are about him, but considering in the series that Joffrey comments on how there are 4 pages (in the Book of Brothers) detailing Ser Duncan's deeds as Kingsguard, perhaps you could cover him? I only mention this because, I really admired Ser Barristan "The Bad Ass" Selmy through the series, and I believe "the Bold" & his sense of duty to the Kingsguard was inspired by "The Tall", based on the stories and his own encounter at the Winter Tourney. Hopefully its possible, but otherwise, no worries!
I prefer the model the King in the North adopts. Rather than limiting his personal guard to 7 knights, King Robb took on an entire host of 30 highborn Northmen as his personal guards. You threaten one Direwolf, you suffer the wrath of his entire Pack.
Barristan Selmy and Arthur Dayne would've betrayed him aswell if they were thrust into that situation. Even Rhaegar had planned to remove his father from the throne.
@@joesubel idk about barristan cuz he did go out of his way to save the mad king at duskendale but arthur definitely would've been totally loyal to rhaegar. So it wouldve been a sad and awesome scenerio if barristan and Arthur fought each other
Yeah King Aerys had a dream team of Knights. I believe that if they were fighting at the Trident & not protecting Princess Lyanna Stark at the Tower Joy the rebillion would have been over. I also believe they would have killed Ser Jamie & Lord Tywin Lannister Lord Eddard Stark when they would have returned from the Trident. Ser Jamie & Lord Eddard were great skilled fighters but against King Aerys they wouldn't have been successful, remember there's no Holland Reed stabbing any one in the back like he did Ser Author Dayne, ✌.
Why do they call him Pod the rod? In the show they specifically say that his dick isn't actually big, and he's just naturally super skilled. (Which I believe, since he also apparently has an amazing natural singing voice)
That was pretty much King Roberts fault. Robert never had much use for bodyguards, even old and fat he was more of a "Come at me Bro!" kind of guy, if anyone wanted to try and take a shot at him he was more than willing to meet you head-on, and was more interested in whoring and hunting than running things, so he never really gave much thought to the quality of his personal guards
if we go by the books I could see Barristan Selmy as lord commander, Jorah Mormont, Belwas the strong, Grey Worm , Brenden Blackfish , Briennne, The Hound
The mad king had the BEST fighters, during his time. Selmy in his prime, the sword of morning, a young Jamie smh, had he not gone "mad", hed be unbeatable
Eclectic Cerebro rhaeger not taking Sir Arthur Dayne and the other two kingsguard is a questionable decision specially since apparently the trident battle was very close and got decided by Robert besting rhaeger. What if Arthur Dayne/ser barristan were there and beat Robert?
@@ashdude3058 lol exactly...those 2 would be a game changer plus, a morale booster...heck..ned said it himself "my wife is thankful you and i never met on the battle field"
@Leo Carlo Aguilar i thought he was in the castle...they spoke about how it took like 12 men before they got his sword or something like that..idk...regardless..he had the best fightera
I would pick those Ser Arthur Dayne Ser Duncan the Tall Ser Barristan Selmy Prince Oberyn Martell Ser Jaime Lannister Ser Aemon the Dragonknight Sandor Clegane Khal Drogo I know its ridicolous but only think about it.
you know ... there was a very short time, when the Kingsguard with Loras, JAime, Balon and Aerys .... looked almost respectable again. Then Jaime lost his hand, Aerys betrayed his vows and Loras was severely injured .... so ... yeah
Even without the hand Jaime was still perfectly capable of being lord commander (and took Loras under his wing). It was just the injury, Aerys dying, I think Balon is still in Dorne, so it's gone down hill somewhat.
Balon is still pretty chill, the dude is clearly honorable, he even tried to defend Tyrion on the trial. And while Jaime has lost his hand I would argue it was for the better, he became a better leader once he returned to service.
George even told them not to kill him because he was gonna be important, and you know what they said? They did it just because he told them not to, what a bunch of pricks tbh.
@@John-doe955 depends on the type of sword and if the practitioner had practice/experience with that skill. In the got world I don't see anyone really dual wielding as an effective combat skill or commonplace. I suppose they made Dane a dual wielder to show off his skill (lore wise)
When you realise that Arys Oakheart was the kindest of the "Lannister-guard" durring Sansa's captivity and he died for mixing honor and love. R.I.P Arys Oakheart.
@@MrTitchThomas I literally just finished A Feast for Crows again, and I have no idea what the hell you are talking about. Because he said he loves Myrcella like a daughter when Arianne was trying to get him riled up? That makes no sense.
Nerds Forever Balon is as good as dead. Why? Cause Darkstar will kill him. I would be surprised if Balon was the prologue POV. Darkstar is going to use Dawn and prove that Arthur was no one without that sword.
@Hornyshark He's a Kingsguard they're sworn to serve who ever sits on the iron throne not just the targaryens, the only reason he goes to Dany is because he was dismissed
ikr. The Kingsguard of the Targaryen's were ALL legends. Some, of course, we better than others. but in the end, I wouldn't mind being taught by any of them because they're obviously the best knights of their time.
It muat be noted the mad kings kings guard were the most noble of any tragedian king. He had a Martell, a Lannister, a Hightower, Selmy, a Dorry, a Whent and a Dane of starfall. Everyone coming from a noble, ancient and honorary house through out the realm. Previous Targaryen kings had Bastards, House hold nights and even sell swords, but Ares had it as good as it got.
If Joffrey was smart he would've kept Berristan Selmy and Jaime on his kingsguard while adding the Clegane brothers, Ilyn Payne, Loras Tyrell, and Meryn Trant or Mandon Moore. That would've been a solid kingsguard.
The Clegane brothers? You mean the deserter and the giant with a hair trigger temper and extremely vunpredictable violent tendencies? Yeah, sure. They sound like great bodyguards 🙄 The Mountain is only competent AFTER he dies.
@antiochus87 the mountain litterally always kicks ass his only 2 real battle losses were at harenhall (a castle so difficult to hold that it's considered cursed) and against Oberyn. And had Joffrey been less of a cunt the hound probably wouldn't abandon him but Joffrey litterally just made Sandor do whatever he couldn't have been bothered to.
Jaime Lannister and Barristan Selmy are two of the greatest swords in history. Mandon Moore was pretty deadly and Jaime ranked him the second most dangerous after himself. The other 3 were adequate at best. Roberts kingsguard wasnt as terrible as people make out. Selmy and Jaime alone propel it to more than a paper shield
Robert's KG: "sure Little finger Mandon Moores cool. And Im keepin Barristan. Cersei ur bro can stay he can guard u at nite and u Lannisters can pick the other 4 members as well.
I think maybe what inspired "7" KGuards was, to get THE best knights one from each of the kingdoms... just a thought, since Aegon the conqueror only accepted/adopted the Faith of the Seven as a diplomatic move..
Kirk Cannon This is one inconsistency I found in the books. Tywin wanted to strip Jaime from his vows, and make him again the heir of Casterly Rock. I dont know why he didnt had this to his deal with Robert and Jon Arryn. You will marry Cersei and in exchange you will free Jaime from the kingsguard. Always seemed off to me.
Maybe having Jaime freed from the KG wasn't an option at the time. Tywin only had so much leverage. I believe the options at the time were pardon Jaime and let him stay, or make him take the black. I don't remember but maybe the best deal Tywin could muster was to have Jaime pardoned to avoid the Wall. Someone can correct me but I believe the prospect of releasing a KG from his vows wasn't an option until Joffrey kicked Selmy loose.
I guess throwing him out of the kingsguard would also dishonor jaime ... There would really not be an excuse for why he'd be thrown from the kingsguard apart from murdering his king - meaning a dishonorable discharge ... while Tywin might not care about honor that much, it could serve to mock his house which he surely doesn't like ... that said I don't know either. Then again it's not like Tywin back then was really in a position to make too many demands. He was scrambling to get on Roberts good side and get the marriage for cersei. Don't know if making another demand would have been justified despite not really having done much of the heavy liftig during the fight.
Why? Books or show practically nothing is know about him. He has about 3 lines of dialogue. Is it just because he carries a great big sword and everyone admires him?
@@supremeworld87 You get enough second-hand characterization to understand that this guy is kingshit of fuck-mountain. He doesn't need a fucking POV chapter to get this point across. The vast majority of characters in this fictional universe are not encountered first-hand why should Dayne be held to different standards? You get quotes and anecdotes from him - his impact is felt heavily by the likes of Selmy and Jamie Lannister. Characterization works both ways.
@@supremeworld87 Jaime recalling Ser Arthur's battle with The Smiling Knight was really cool. It wasn't't just the TOJ scene. Being an impressive swordsman is far cooler than being a good shooter with modern weaponry which is why readers respect him so much. Not to mention he was the epitome of what a good knight should be, in terms of character, not just skill 🕵🏾♂️
Something I wondered, why in the flashbacks Jaime has short hair? Given that throughout almost all his youth and adulthood he had long hair. Did Bran remember something wrong?
I first saw that scene online and thought it was just Jamie fantasising about doing it then with his hair now short. Didn’t realise that was meant to be a younger him. They could’ve just casted a younger version of Jamie for that scene like they got a younger version of Ned or put some wig that resembles his old hair.
To me the lifetime service makes no sense. I mean we’re talking about a small, personal bodyguard unit that protects the King himself, supposedly made up of the greatest Knights in the whole kingdom. It makes no sense to never retire them. I mean it’s theoretically possible to have a 90 year old Kingsguard knight who’s long past his prime or not even capable as a realistic fighter. You’d think they would want to keep the most capable men in the Guard and therefore offer retirement and such to the members.
Well, it's to make sure they're loyal only to the king, and if they're old and past their prime, they can be strategists, and most of them would probably die in war or defending the king from assassins.
@@TheFiresloth Totally agree, GRRM is so good even when writing subplots and he's so unpredictable. Dark Star is giving me some Rogue Prince vibes hopefully he ends up doing so bad ass stuff in TWOW!!!
My kingsguard would be Hotpie Samwell 'the slayer' Tarly Rickon Stark Tyrion Lannister Robbin 'Sweetrobbin' Arryn Tommen Baratheon Edmure Tully (armed only with a bow).
I feel like Balon Swann and Arys are underrated. Arys was a good knight, he was handsome, a good fighter and protected his princess as well as he could and is pretty honorable. Balon is a better fighter as is proven in the battle of the blackwater. also an honorable knight, and a decent archer.
yeah :D I think with aerys, balon, loras and jaime, there was a very short moment when the kingsguard was almost respectable again. Then jaime lost his hand, loras got injured, aerys died ...
Everything will be fine as long as Balon Swan keeps a mace close as well as a bow and arrows and just asks everyone to stay withing eyesight and about thirty yards away.
No he isn't? The Lannisters where not at the Trident. Jaime was with The Mad King, at Kings Landing and Tywin invaded Kings Landing as soon as he found out Robert defeated Rhaeger.
Yeah, it says he’s cocky and got over run by a teenager with a overgrown dog. Though to be fair, he himself charged at Robb valiantly and killed many of his personal guard. A good warrior, but a cocky commander.
@@wcoffman7091 The whispering wood was a bait set up by the blackfish (exploiting Jaime going on anti-raider patrol. Jaime was surrounded and outnumbered so there wasn't much he could do (I may be wrong but I think Jaime didn't kill Rob because his sword got stuck in a guards body. Still, Tywin was by far the better of the Lannister commanders.
Westin Brady lol jaime charged at Robb as a last attempt similar to his charge at DAENERYS. He cut down 10 men before his sword got stuck in one of the fuckers skull, he had almost reached Robb, Catelyn and Robb were shitting themselves. Jaime was an asshole but he was TOYING with the world
Gods, I hate the stupid helmets that gave the Kingsguard in the show. Also, I don't think the creators of the armors get the fact the knights should look all white.
I’d for sure want Arthur Dayne Jamie Lannister Barristan Selmy and Jon Snow and both the Clegane Brothers and Dario Naharis. I think the skill in this group is unmatched but maybe I’m wrong
yep, except some of them were killed by other warriors. kind of hard to show how much of a badass you are when someone kills you. being attacked from behind not withstanding.
Arys Oakheart and Mandon Moore are probably the only decent fighters Robert put on his Kingsguard, aside from the two KG he inherited from Aerys II. Arys would die defending Myrcella, loyal enough and decently honorable to the end. Ser Mandon was the only one Jaime could think had the ability to defeat him. "Jaime had once told him that Moore was the most dangerous of the Kingsguard-excepting himself, always-because his face gave no hint as what he might do next. -Tyrion Lannister. Balon Swann was also a decent fighter and an honorable enough knight. Cersei made a pretty decent choice right there.
if only all of the 7 kingsguards were there with Rhaegar during the battle of the trident... Robert, Eddard and everyone there would've died and we would've had Rhaegar as King after Aerys
Each king's KG? you only showed 3 kings. every king, since the creation of the KG had the greatest warriors of the time. It's possible that Aegon the Conqueror had knights that were closer to gods than men. And the thing about Aerys II's KG is that they each talk about how the one that trained them and gave them their spurs were much better fighters than them. But then, all heroes talk about OTHERS being heroes and not them.
Tywins small counsel; Tyrion, little finger, varys. The 4 brightest minds and schemers in all of Westeros the same room. Doesnt get much better than that
I hate how series portrayed Sir Barriston as a old wisey fuk who got killed by 5-6 plebs with knife lmao. He was one of the most feared and respected swordsman in his time. With valyrian steel sword he was on same level Arthur Dayne.
I can't believe the show just decided to exclude Arys Oakheart and all 3 Kettleblack brothers from the whole show, all 4 of them play some pretty but roles in the books. Oakheart escorts Myrcella to Dorne and dies when he is caught with the sand snakes and a couple other knights trying to sneak Myrcella out of Dorne to start a war to replace Tommen with Myrcella, where Myrcella is wounded but doesn't die (and certainly isn't poisoned) like the show. The Kettleblacks play a huge role in scheming with Cercei to frame Maergery by telling the High Sparrow that she has been sleeping with multiple people, but they also help to imprison Cercei because the Sparrows are whipping the Kettleblack brother (not sure if it's Osney, Osmund, or Osfryd) when Cercei walks in and he tells the Sparrows that he had been fucking Cercei so that's how she is imprisoned. She is actually still in prison in the books, she never got freed and certainly didn't destroy the Sept, plus the Sparrows are still in power. I know there are dozens of changes, but seeing Oakheart reminded me of him and the Kettleblacks.
Robert should’ve expelled Jamie from the kingsguard. Maybe it wouldn’t have been enough to stop Tywins lust for power but you have a good excuse in that he killed the last king he was sworn to protect and Robert giving Tywin a secure line probably wouldve won him over as a more permanent ally
I know right. It seems so inconsistent to me that Tywin didn't even try to have Jaime removed of the kingsguard so he could become his heir again (we all know he was really pissed about Jaime joining the kg). Cersei marrying Robert was more than enough to solidify the alliance between Baratheon and Lannister.
@@tronalddump1133 Yeah, what was even Tywin's heir strategy? Tyrion? Kevan? Lancel? They all seem pretty silly, right? Jaime was in tbe Kingsguard for years, maybe decades. Tywin should have had a strategy for that, right?
Josh Mcgeough The reason I love game of thrones is because of the lore. Learning about The history of the swords, the houses who owned them and how they came into possession of them are my favourite things about ASOIAF, and so the history of the kings guard is no different
Josh Mcgeough There is a big ass book that talks about nearly everything that had every happened prior to the current story and it’s honestly my favourite entry in the series
Aerys had The White Bull, Barristan the Bold, Prince Lewyn, The Sword of the Morning, and Jaime (who Barristan admits is the best natural swordsman he ever saw) and he still managed to eff it up.
Ser Duncan the Tall was a Kingsguard knight during Maekar I, Egg's father. When Egg ascended the throne as Aegon V, he appointed Ser Duncan as the Lord Commander of his Kingsguard, being the former Lord Commander dying in his sleep.
My Kingsguard rosters of all time: Ser Rickard Thorne, Ser Barristan Selmy, Ser Duncan the Tall, Ser Criston Cole the Kingmaker, Sandor Clegane, Ser Aemon the Dragonknight, Ser Samgood of Sour Hill.
7:21 the spear just entirely goes through the steel plating on the helmet (which would have been good steel too) and than through the back of the skull and out the front? It’s shit like this that must irritate GRRM. And why the show is such a disgrace to Martins realism;
4:00 proving that mad and stupid were equally appropriate adjectives here. Jaime was the only one allowed to bear a weapon the throne room (as the only KG in King's Landing) meaning his hostage and prisoner was the only person armed when Tywin attacked the city.
Damn the made king had the best Generation of kingsguard, all of then valiant, loyal, honorable, and skilled, robert had the worse most of them being incompetent, dishonorable and psychotic. Tommen and jeoffery's are just falling apart
Arthur Dayne was terrible in the show. Dual wielding swords in the way he did is 0% cool and 100% Hollywood bullshit. It also takes away from one of his very few defining features, his (probably) magical greatsword (which means is always requires two hands, making the dual wielding even more stupid) Dawn. Arthur Dayne was one of the Kingsguard knights that were butchered the worst, even in his short appearance.
I had a question actually I am not able to understand this thing when benjen Stark dropped Bran Stark on the wall he said he cannot pass the Wall because dead cannot pass until the wall is standing but John and Company brought the Dead from north of the wall to the south of the wall without knowing the wall down..?? How??
Because at the time of the sack he was trying to prevent Aerys form burning every man woman and child alive in their beds. He couldn't be in two places at once. He was the only Kingsguard in the capital at the time and barely more than a boy himself. He was 17 and left with enormous responsibility and decisions that could affect hundreds of thousands of people. But still his petulant haters refuse to give him a break
@@Sc4recrow44 Your about a century out regarding plate. You might be confusing 13th (1200's) century with 1300's (14th century)... 1200's - Beginning, everyone pretty much just wearing mail, sometimes would find arm and leg protection made of strips of metal. About half way through the century you started getting the "coat of plates" on top of mail. By the end of the century, most knights would be using this. Many characters can be seen wearing a coat of plates (or something like it) in the show, it's what the mountain wears. 1300's - well, about 1350 really, you started getting single piece breastplates, and either coat of plates covering the back or often just mail. Arms and legs gained more plate protection but were rarely fully enclosed (armour always focused on frontal protection first). Also in this century, the bascinet takes over all helmets for all knights (its the sugar-loaf shaped one, usually with a pointy visor). By the end of the century, you get the faulds, the metal skirt thing that really only works with a full, rigid breastplate and backplate. This is also when jousting took off, now people are well enough armoured not to regularly die whilst competing. 1400's - (early) covered more of the body in plate, getting rid of the gaps that use to just be mail, better articulated joints etc. Started seeing single-piece back plates as well as front plates. 1450 - This is where game of thrones is supposedly meant to be set (war of the roses, so 1455-1487). References to things like "lobstered steel" (presumably referring to segmented joints) and "gorgets" reinforce this. So same trends, better protected joints. Stronger/integrated neck protection. 2 new helmets: Armets pretty much exclusively for the knights and sallets for any one. Also more specialization, eg asymmetric armour for fighting from horseback. In response to the OP, yes and no. George RR Martin could have done with reading a few books on historical armour before writing a story full of it. The knights are usually alright in the books, the exception being his obsession with scaled armour, which is historically wrong. The other armour he loves talking about is mail and (boiled?) leather, which again was never really that popular. Given the descriptions of some of the armour being very complex, putting the period mid-15th century, I'm really surprised brigandines are never (to my knowledge) mentioned, though from the outside, they are covered in leather, so maybe that's what was meant? Overall, I do tend to take his armour descriptions with a very large pinch of salt as I think it was Areys Oakheart in Dorne, was pierced by a crossbow bolt that went through his oak shield and then through a plate breastplate (and presumably layers of padding and possibly mail underneath)... Considering they were built to stop a couched lance, I highly doubt that.
@@Sc4recrow44 idk in essos the heavy armor stuff is kinda rare and most of the time is just unsullied agaisnt unsullied or dothraki leather is not a fucking joke of an armor though i think they dont have metal or full plate armor due to the necccecity of it considering the enemies doesn't have one or eill not benefiy one
My Fantasy Kingsguard(Current Storyline Only): [Lord Commander] Ser Garlan “The Gallant” Tyrell Ser Lyle "Strongboar" Crakehall Ser Garth “Greysteel” Hightower Greatjon Umber Ser Rolly Duckfield Ser Archibald Yronwood Ser Robar Royce Close contenders: Brienne of Tarth - Split loyalties Lothor Brune - Very capable knight with notable feats during the Battle of the Blackwater. Loses out to Ser Robar because Ser Lothor can be bought. Ser Donnel Swann - Not loyal, having served Renly, Stannis and then Jofferey and Tommon. Ser Balon Swann - Went along with Cersei's plot of plotting to murder Prince Trystane and blaming it on Tyrion. No integrity. Ser Gerold "Darkstar" Dayne - Morally corrupt. Ser Harras Harlaw - Strong Ironborn with a Valyrian Steel Sword but I highly doubt him beating many "Just above average knights". I don't see him surviving the immediate future. Ser Lyn Corbray - Very skilled at arms with a Valyrian Steel Blade but can be bought *AND* is a pedophile.
The 7 vs 3 fight at the Tower of Joy is even more impressive if you know the law of squares, which is that the force of any group is roughly the square of their numbers. So 49 vs 9 if the fighters were equal. The fact that there were only 2 survivors of the 7 translates to the Kingsguard members having--on average--5 times the ability of the 7.
Huh, you said that the faith was inspiration for the 7 knights. And that might be right. But I always assumed it was one knight for each kingdom. In a way making sure that all of the kings subjects were represented in his personal guard of sorts.
I had never considered it was Petry who wanted Tyrion dead! And that was one thing that I racked my brain thinking about, but Petry makes a likely suspect
Kingsguard then: Ser Arthur Dayne, Ser Barristan Selmy, Ser Jaime Lannister, etc...
Kingsguard now: "Ser Teryn Mant...and Ser...whosit of whocares"
while i agree trant and Boros suck, Balon Swann, Robert strong and Arys arent slouches
@@godemperorofmankind3.091 arys is dead.
@@songohan5960 im well aware
Ser Preston Greenfield and Ser Arys Oakhearth and maybe Ser Balon Swann are the only ones of the Kingsguard in the time of the books ho are worth something i don`t talk about ser Baristan because he didn`t start in Robert`s time
@@godemperorofmankind3.091 tbh, Roberts Kingsguard wasnt as bad as it is often treated. It was mostly Blount and Trant that were a disgrace, the others were mostly just meh with the exception of Mandon Moore and two of the best swordsman ever, Jaime Lannister and Barristan Selmy.
It seems between Aerys line up of studs and Aegon the Unworthy having Aemon the Dragonknight at his call that the shittiest kings always had the most bitchin' Kingsguards.... which I guess makes a sort of sense lol
Hey there! So this was seriously one of my favorite videos by you so far, because i've been curious about the old and current members of the Kingsguard. I just wonder if you could actually make a video about Ser Duncan the Tall? I haven't read the books yet so I am not sure how much details there are about him, but considering in the series that Joffrey comments on how there are 4 pages (in the Book of Brothers) detailing Ser Duncan's deeds as Kingsguard, perhaps you could cover him? I only mention this because, I really admired Ser Barristan "The Bad Ass" Selmy through the series, and I believe "the Bold" & his sense of duty to the Kingsguard was inspired by "The Tall", based on the stories and his own encounter at the Winter Tourney.
Hopefully its possible, but otherwise, no worries!
I will always think sir Arthur Dayne is the best fighter in the history of game of thrones
I prefer the model the King in the North adopts. Rather than limiting his personal guard to 7 knights, King Robb took on an entire host of 30 highborn Northmen as his personal guards.
You threaten one Direwolf, you suffer the wrath of his entire Pack.
didn'T live any longer for it though
Dorry!?
King Aerys II May have been mad indeed, but holy hell can he pick King’s Guard.
Barristan Selmy and Arthur Dayne would've betrayed him aswell if they were thrust into that situation. Even Rhaegar had planned to remove his father from the throne.
Jonathan J I don’t think Dayne would’ve.
@@joesubel idk about barristan cuz he did go out of his way to save the mad king at duskendale but arthur definitely would've been totally loyal to rhaegar. So it wouldve been a sad and awesome scenerio if barristan and Arthur fought each other
Yeah King Aerys had a dream team of Knights. I believe that if they were fighting at the Trident & not protecting Princess Lyanna Stark at the Tower Joy the rebillion would have been over. I also believe they would have killed Ser Jamie & Lord Tywin Lannister Lord Eddard Stark when they would have returned from the Trident. Ser Jamie & Lord Eddard were great skilled fighters but against King Aerys they wouldn't have been successful, remember there's no Holland Reed stabbing any one in the back like he did Ser Author Dayne, ✌.
@@Rahim.ali80 I think perhaps you overvalue the ability and skill of a few men when battles are fought between 1000's
Now we have podrick... all hail pod the rod
@@moelester2797 Since this video follows the books, I highly doubt it lol.
Damn, he must be more skilled than I thought.
@@stick-itproductions.3307 towards the end of the show he jus bullies everyone he trains 😂😂 then he jus starts crackin up
Why do they call him Pod the rod? In the show they specifically say that his dick isn't actually big, and he's just naturally super skilled.
(Which I believe, since he also apparently has an amazing natural singing voice)
Dead! 😂😂😂
Lannister’s: ‘replace barriston with the hound in order to be surrounded by more loyal people’
The hound: ‘sees fire’ f*ck the king, lets go Sansa
went from Arthur Dayne, Barristan Selmy Lewyn Martell etc to Meryn Trant?! Boros Blount?! Might aswell have the Night's Watch protect the damn king
That was pretty much King Roberts fault. Robert never had much use for bodyguards, even old and fat he was more of a "Come at me Bro!" kind of guy, if anyone wanted to try and take a shot at him he was more than willing to meet you head-on, and was more interested in whoring and hunting than running things, so he never really gave much thought to the quality of his personal guards
I feel ya. Luckily Robert still had Barristan and Jaime with 2 hands
whom if we where being honest could have cut through the other five with such little difficulty that we wouldn't call it a fight
if we go by the books I could see Barristan Selmy as lord commander, Jorah Mormont, Belwas the strong, Grey Worm , Brenden Blackfish , Briennne, The Hound
FerretJohn It was also Cersei’s fault since she put Lannister loyalists in the kingsguard.
The mad king had the BEST fighters, during his time. Selmy in his prime, the sword of morning, a young Jamie smh, had he not gone "mad", hed be unbeatable
Eclectic Cerebro rhaeger not taking Sir Arthur Dayne and the other two kingsguard is a questionable decision specially since apparently the trident battle was very close and got decided by Robert besting rhaeger. What if Arthur Dayne/ser barristan were there and beat Robert?
@@ashdude3058 lol exactly...those 2 would be a game changer plus, a morale booster...heck..ned said it himself "my wife is thankful you and i never met on the battle field"
He also had kingslayer 🤣
@Leo Carlo Aguilar i thought he was in the castle...they spoke about how it took like 12 men before they got his sword or something like that..idk...regardless..he had the best fightera
AliWorld Anime & Gaming & More Ser barriston and Arthur dayne vs Robert Baratheon. That would have been awesome
Aerys had deadliest Kingsguard ever ... add ser Duncan the Tall you have your small undefeatable army
Also add the Smiling Knight ! You would conquer the whole world with this team.
He's the best PF in the realm.
@@lordfrost3752 smiling knight pfft add in fucking Aemon the Dragonknight and the enemy's ancestors would be pissing themselves
I would pick those
Ser Arthur Dayne
Ser Duncan the Tall
Ser Barristan Selmy
Prince Oberyn Martell
Ser Jaime Lannister
Ser Aemon the Dragonknight
Sandor Clegane
Khal Drogo
I know its ridicolous but only think about it.
@@barnaantonio8330 Remove Sandor and add Cregan
you still got 10 years before the next book comes out so no pressure.
good vid btw
Anthony Mugianesi yuhp RIP hahahah
Only 5 to go
you know ... there was a very short time, when the Kingsguard with Loras, JAime, Balon and Aerys .... looked almost respectable again. Then Jaime lost his hand, Aerys betrayed his vows and Loras was severely injured .... so ... yeah
Even without the hand Jaime was still perfectly capable of being lord commander (and took Loras under his wing). It was just the injury, Aerys dying, I think Balon is still in Dorne, so it's gone down hill somewhat.
Arys didn't betray his bows, there nothing saying you can't have sex
Balon is still pretty chill, the dude is clearly honorable, he even tried to defend Tyrion on the trial. And while Jaime has lost his hand I would argue it was for the better, he became a better leader once he returned to service.
I really love Ser Barristan. I wish they would have given the character more time on the show.
George even told them not to kill him because he was gonna be important, and you know what they said? They did it just because he told them not to, what a bunch of pricks tbh.
@@sirjoey3137 hey at least we don't have to worry about book spoilers
@@sirjoey3137 those damn delinquent duo
absolute legendary character
Ser Barristen: Here boy! Melt it down and add it to the others! I love this line
Pure Chad!!!
Best lines are given by Barristen
Ugh, of course everyone thinks of Arthur Dayne as a dual-wielding Hollywood "badass" when he only used the greatsword, Dawn in the books.
One of those swords was Dawn. To be fair, I loved the dual weilding. No one else uses it in the show.
John Tyler Brienne does a bit, when Jaime is her prisoner
The reason he dualwields in the show is because it was much easier to choreograph than with him uisibg a greatsword.
John Tyler it would be rather difficult to duel wield swords in real life.
@@John-doe955 depends on the type of sword and if the practitioner had practice/experience with that skill. In the got world I don't see anyone really dual wielding as an effective combat skill or commonplace. I suppose they made Dane a dual wielder to show off his skill (lore wise)
When you realise that Arys Oakheart was the kindest of the "Lannister-guard" durring Sansa's captivity and he died for mixing honor and love.
R.I.P Arys Oakheart.
Also a paedophile so there’s that
@@MrTitchThomas I literally just finished A Feast for Crows again, and I have no idea what the hell you are talking about. Because he said he loves Myrcella like a daughter when Arianne was trying to get him riled up? That makes no sense.
Daemon Blackfyre Apparently in his mind men can't have platonic love for other women.
He must be from Alabama.
Pie in Game of Thrones loving somebody like a daughter can mean much more
@@daemonblackfyre7171 They might be thinking of Trant and that scene from the show where Arya ends up killing him.
I feel like Barristan was very capable to cut down the Kingsguard and easily kill Joffrey early on. Would’ve save us a lot of trouble really
The Hound would still put up a good fight
The hound would beat him if all the other kings guard act as meat shields…
The "Even now I could cut through the five of you like carving a cake" is somehow the scariest threat in the show to me, I believe it.
As far as loyalty goes, The loyal KG are all dead.
Barristan is still alive in the books.
as is Balon Swan
Nerds Forever Balon is as good as dead. Why? Cause Darkstar will kill him. I would be surprised if Balon was the prologue POV. Darkstar is going to use Dawn and prove that Arthur was no one without that sword.
I could see that happening. I am convinced that Darkstar is going down to someone in White
@Hornyshark He's a Kingsguard they're sworn to serve who ever sits on the iron throne not just the targaryens, the only reason he goes to Dany is because he was dismissed
My most favorite kingsguard is Ser Arthur Dayne.
Quan Nguyen baristan Selmy for life
Quan Nguyen I
Dayne's the GOAT. But Baristan is a legend for the Defiance of Duskendale
Mines dunk the lunk
Dunk the Lunk, thick as a castle wall
Yeah the Kingsguard is so bad in the show.
ikr
ikr. The Kingsguard of the Targaryen's were ALL legends. Some, of course, we better than others. but in the end, I wouldn't mind being taught by any of them because they're obviously the best knights of their time.
It muat be noted the mad kings kings guard were the most noble of any tragedian king. He had a Martell, a Lannister, a Hightower, Selmy, a Dorry, a Whent and a Dane of starfall. Everyone coming from a noble, ancient and honorary house through out the realm. Previous Targaryen kings had Bastards, House hold nights and even sell swords, but Ares had it as good as it got.
thats cap Targaryen kings always had noble kingsguard in fact greatest kingsguards were kingsguard of Jahaerys Targaryen not Aerys's
I'm pretty sure it's Darry, not Dorry
It is
Yeah it is
I came to comments just to say this lol
And Kettleblack, not Kettleback.
Nah it's Dora
Kingsguard under the Mad King: "Gods I was strong then"
If Joffrey was smart he would've kept Berristan Selmy and Jaime on his kingsguard while adding the Clegane brothers, Ilyn Payne, Loras Tyrell, and Meryn Trant or Mandon Moore. That would've been a solid kingsguard.
He would've had a dream Team. The only one he'd be missing would be Dayne.
@@wadewilson8011 I'm sure I would take the nights instead 😄
"The greatest swordsman to ever live killed by Meryn f*cking Trant" - The Hound
The Clegane brothers? You mean the deserter and the giant with a hair trigger temper and extremely vunpredictable violent tendencies? Yeah, sure. They sound like great bodyguards 🙄
The Mountain is only competent AFTER he dies.
@antiochus87 the mountain litterally always kicks ass his only 2 real battle losses were at harenhall (a castle so difficult to hold that it's considered cursed) and against Oberyn. And had Joffrey been less of a cunt the hound probably wouldn't abandon him but Joffrey litterally just made Sandor do whatever he couldn't have been bothered to.
I really thought Joffrey was going to cry when Sandor said that to him.
Robert Baratheons Kingsguard = a paper shield
What about Barristan Selmy and Jaime Lannister?
Jaime Lannister and Barristan Selmy are two of the greatest swords in history. Mandon Moore was pretty deadly and Jaime ranked him the second most dangerous after himself. The other 3 were adequate at best. Roberts kingsguard wasnt as terrible as people make out. Selmy and Jaime alone propel it to more than a paper shield
Robert's KG: "sure Little finger Mandon Moores cool. And Im keepin Barristan. Cersei ur bro can stay he can guard u at nite and u Lannisters can pick the other 4 members as well.
Cersei Lannisters Queensguard= Air
@@user-cw5xy2vz4v Cersei had zombie mountain bruh I don't think he should be taken lightly haha
Shaiapouf, Menthuthuyoupi, and Neferpitou were the best Kings Guard.
Lucci Silver lol
Hahahaha 100%
Big Brain Joke
I seriously didn't expect this comment, but I'm glad I found it.
Whoa well I've not forgotten them, best kingsguard and the strongest probably
I think maybe what inspired "7" KGuards was, to get THE best knights one from each of the kingdoms... just a thought, since Aegon the conqueror only accepted/adopted the Faith of the Seven as a diplomatic move..
And yet i’ve never heard of a Kingsguard from the North or the iron islands
What if Robert dismissed Jaime right when he ascended to the throne? I mean, Jaime would have no time to get it on with Cersei
And Tywin would approve
Kirk Cannon This is one inconsistency I found in the books. Tywin wanted to strip Jaime from his vows, and make him again the heir of Casterly Rock. I dont know why he didnt had this to his deal with Robert and Jon Arryn. You will marry Cersei and in exchange you will free Jaime from the kingsguard. Always seemed off to me.
Because it messes with plotline lol
I thought being in the Kingsguard was for life?
Maybe having Jaime freed from the KG wasn't an option at the time. Tywin only had so much leverage. I believe the options at the time were pardon Jaime and let him stay, or make him take the black. I don't remember but maybe the best deal Tywin could muster was to have Jaime pardoned to avoid the Wall. Someone can correct me but I believe the prospect of releasing a KG from his vows wasn't an option until Joffrey kicked Selmy loose.
I guess throwing him out of the kingsguard would also dishonor jaime ... There would really not be an excuse for why he'd be thrown from the kingsguard apart from murdering his king - meaning a dishonorable discharge ... while Tywin might not care about honor that much, it could serve to mock his house which he surely doesn't like ... that said I don't know either.
Then again it's not like Tywin back then was really in a position to make too many demands. He was scrambling to get on Roberts good side and get the marriage for cersei. Don't know if making another demand would have been justified despite not really having done much of the heavy liftig during the fight.
Ser Arthur Dayne has got to be one of the coolest characters I've come across
S K no one is as cool as the bloodraven period.
Why? Books or show practically nothing is know about him. He has about 3 lines of dialogue. Is it just because he carries a great big sword and everyone admires him?
Not really. Just a giu good with a particular sword. Dawn ios cool. Arthur is just there
@@supremeworld87 You get enough second-hand characterization to understand that this guy is kingshit of fuck-mountain. He doesn't need a fucking POV chapter to get this point across. The vast majority of characters in this fictional universe are not encountered first-hand why should Dayne be held to different standards? You get quotes and anecdotes from him - his impact is felt heavily by the likes of Selmy and Jamie Lannister. Characterization works both ways.
@@supremeworld87 Jaime recalling Ser Arthur's battle with The Smiling Knight was really cool. It wasn't't just the TOJ scene. Being an impressive swordsman is far cooler than being a good shooter with modern weaponry which is why readers respect him so much. Not to mention he was the epitome of what a good knight should be, in terms of character, not just skill 🕵🏾♂️
Imagine the starks fighting Prime Arthur Dayne, Jaime Lannister and Lewyn Martell.
Rip
Throwing in Selmy into that would also be a RIP for the starks
Cregan would give them a tough fight
@@amarelle7975 only barely, and only in a 1v1
@@mr.mintman7545 Not barely, he's top tier swordsman. And of course its gonna be 1v1 wtf
@@amarelle7975 them != 1 person... and they are all also top tier
Something I wondered, why in the flashbacks Jaime has short hair? Given that throughout almost all his youth and adulthood he had long hair. Did Bran remember something wrong?
Lazy filming...
Thats why it was a deleted scene
@@maximussaktish Bran has deleted scenes? lol
@@johnnyskinwalker4095 wait i thought of a another scene
I first saw that scene online and thought it was just Jamie fantasising about doing it then with his hair now short. Didn’t realise that was meant to be a younger him. They could’ve just casted a younger version of Jamie for that scene like they got a younger version of Ned or put some wig that resembles his old hair.
To me the lifetime service makes no sense. I mean we’re talking about a small, personal bodyguard unit that protects the King himself, supposedly made up of the greatest Knights in the whole kingdom. It makes no sense to never retire them. I mean it’s theoretically possible to have a 90 year old Kingsguard knight who’s long past his prime or not even capable as a realistic fighter. You’d think they would want to keep the most capable men in the Guard and therefore offer retirement and such to the members.
I don't think it's often that a man of that world to live to 90
Iirc in the books it is said that if the KG is incapable of attending to his duties, his sworn brother takes it for him.
Denise Wesolowski Walder Frey was 90
@@irrelevant1242 And that is considered to be incredibly impressive. A kingsguard isn't likely to live that long (although I suppose it could happen).
Well, it's to make sure they're loyal only to the king, and if they're old and past their prime, they can be strategists, and most of them would probably die in war or defending the king from assassins.
You should have mentioned how Lewyn died. In the hands of Lyn Corbray. He is such a fun character.
Tattered Prince he was injured
i love the name ''Ladyforlorn'' for a sword
Ser Jonothor Dorry: Ser Jonothor Darry's slower, puppy-loving cousin
the only decent sword left is ser balon
And he's with a viper and one of the best axeman in the world, chasing a madman. Poor guy.
TheFiresloth ik i feel bad hahha
@@TheFiresloth even if they try, they'll have trouble, and Balon is a man who is loyal to the king and the king only, not the Lannisters.
@@TheFiresloth Totally agree, GRRM is so good even when writing subplots and he's so unpredictable. Dark Star is giving me some Rogue Prince vibes hopefully he ends up doing so bad ass stuff in TWOW!!!
My kingsguard would be
Hotpie
Samwell 'the slayer' Tarly
Rickon Stark
Tyrion Lannister
Robbin 'Sweetrobbin' Arryn
Tommen Baratheon
Edmure Tully (armed only with a bow).
I think you’ve figured it out. No one would ever be able to get their hands on you with that squad. Long may you reign
The Mad King’s Kingsguard was very OP, no cap.
I feel like Balon Swann and Arys are underrated. Arys was a good knight, he was handsome, a good fighter and protected his princess as well as he could and is pretty honorable. Balon is a better fighter as is proven in the battle of the blackwater. also an honorable knight, and a decent archer.
yeah :D I think with aerys, balon, loras and jaime, there was a very short moment when the kingsguard was almost respectable again. Then jaime lost his hand, loras got injured, aerys died ...
Roberts kings guard was a joke 😂😂😂
I mean in his prime he didn't really need kingsguard
@@brianguo4860 that goes for many kings, Aegon 1, Jaeharys 1, Maegor, Daeron 1 and a few other kings also did not need a KG in their primes
@@sayandhsooraj1361 for some reason I always put robert on top, idk, I just like his charisma and perhaps I have a bias to the Baratheons in general
@@brianguo4860 lol just imagine the kind of person Jeharys I was....
@@sayandhsooraj1361 Yeah...I'm also thinking about someone who's never been king but had a good chance
My favorite KG member is Arthur Dayne, followed by Barristan.. my favorite character was a KG member too Sandor clegane, but by then the KG was a joke
Ser Gerold Hightower and Ser Duncan the Tall were the best kingsgaurd commanders.
Ryam Redwyne?
Don’t worry, the book won’t be here soon.
My favourite Kingsguards from the Lannister reign apart from Jaime are Arys Oakhart and Balon Swann
Everything will be fine as long as Balon Swan keeps a mace close as well as a bow and arrows and just asks everyone to stay withing eyesight and about thirty yards away.
Balon is the shit
The Kingsgueard during Aerys reign was incredible
In the books Jaime is the commander of the Lannister army on the trident, against the Tullys. That could have been something more to say about Jaime
No he isn't? The Lannisters where not at the Trident. Jaime was with The Mad King, at Kings Landing and Tywin invaded Kings Landing as soon as he found out Robert defeated Rhaeger.
Alex R He meant during the War of the 5 Kings, not during Roberts Rebellion.
Yeah, it says he’s cocky and got over run by a teenager with a overgrown dog. Though to be fair, he himself charged at Robb valiantly and killed many of his personal guard. A good warrior, but a cocky commander.
@@wcoffman7091 The whispering wood was a bait set up by the blackfish (exploiting Jaime going on anti-raider patrol. Jaime was surrounded and outnumbered so there wasn't much he could do (I may be wrong but I think Jaime didn't kill Rob because his sword got stuck in a guards body. Still, Tywin was by far the better of the Lannister commanders.
Westin Brady lol jaime charged at Robb as a last attempt similar to his charge at DAENERYS. He cut down 10 men before his sword got stuck in one of the fuckers skull, he had almost reached Robb, Catelyn and Robb were shitting themselves. Jaime was an asshole but he was TOYING with the world
Dude your channel is a compendium of the whole got world and I love it!
Very accurate and neat presented.
Podrick is now a Kingsguard... LOL
idk podrick has a decent resume for a kingsguard
Question who is the Whoshits of Whocares Kingsguard that Bronn confronted?
Ser Meryan Trant and Ser boris Blount
The one who likes to beat on little girls instead of fighting a real man.
I think you are confused with Ser Whatsit of Whocares
Gods, I hate the stupid helmets that gave the Kingsguard in the show. Also, I don't think the creators of the armors get the fact the knights should look all white.
7 = 2 guards for 8 hour shifts and 1 in reserve
I’d for sure want Arthur Dayne Jamie Lannister Barristan Selmy and Jon Snow and both the Clegane Brothers and Dario Naharis. I think the skill in this group is unmatched but maybe I’m wrong
what about syrio. the dancing master
yep, except some of them were killed by other warriors. kind of hard to show how much of a badass you are when someone kills you. being attacked from behind not withstanding.
@@mullythebully5557 yea either Dario or him is okay for me
Jon Snow wasn't a kings guard tho. You could add Mormont tho.
Darry not Dorry, and Kettleblack not kettleback
Aerys had an OP kingsguard
Barristan Selmy, Arthur fucking Dane, a YOUNG Jamie,p
Might as well sent them to kill the night king
Arys Oakheart and Mandon Moore are probably the only decent fighters Robert put on his Kingsguard, aside from the two KG he inherited from Aerys II.
Arys would die defending Myrcella, loyal enough and decently honorable to the end.
Ser Mandon was the only one Jaime could think had the ability to defeat him. "Jaime had once told him that Moore was the most dangerous of the Kingsguard-excepting himself, always-because his face gave no hint as what he might do next. -Tyrion Lannister.
Balon Swann was also a decent fighter and an honorable enough knight. Cersei made a pretty decent choice right there.
if only all of the 7 kingsguards were there with Rhaegar during the battle of the trident... Robert, Eddard and everyone there would've died and we would've had Rhaegar as King after Aerys
If Rhaegar took Arthur and Jaime with him, Barristan and Lewyn, He would've survived!
where are the damn dragons at the Battle of the Trident?! 7 hells!
There were no dragons at the battle of the trident.
Each king's KG? you only showed 3 kings. every king, since the creation of the KG had the greatest warriors of the time. It's possible that Aegon the Conqueror had knights that were closer
to gods than men. And the thing about Aerys II's KG is that they each talk about how the one that trained them and gave them their spurs were much better fighters than them. But then, all heroes talk about OTHERS being heroes and not them.
Mad king kingsguard were epic.
They are all legendary fighters...
Tywins small counsel;
Tyrion, little finger, varys. The 4 brightest minds and schemers in all of Westeros the same room. Doesnt get much better than that
Only one missing was Olenna, but she was represented by Mace
All plotting against each other in some way.
Ah yes great idea, put the 2.5 people in the kingdom best at undermining your own power into powerful positions
I hate how series portrayed Sir Barriston as a old wisey fuk who got killed by 5-6 plebs with knife lmao. He was one of the most feared and respected swordsman in his time. With valyrian steel sword he was on same level Arthur Dayne.
I can't believe the show just decided to exclude Arys Oakheart and all 3 Kettleblack brothers from the whole show, all 4 of them play some pretty but roles in the books. Oakheart escorts Myrcella to Dorne and dies when he is caught with the sand snakes and a couple other knights trying to sneak Myrcella out of Dorne to start a war to replace Tommen with Myrcella, where Myrcella is wounded but doesn't die (and certainly isn't poisoned) like the show. The Kettleblacks play a huge role in scheming with Cercei to frame Maergery by telling the High Sparrow that she has been sleeping with multiple people, but they also help to imprison Cercei because the Sparrows are whipping the Kettleblack brother (not sure if it's Osney, Osmund, or Osfryd) when Cercei walks in and he tells the Sparrows that he had been fucking Cercei so that's how she is imprisoned. She is actually still in prison in the books, she never got freed and certainly didn't destroy the Sept, plus the Sparrows are still in power. I know there are dozens of changes, but seeing Oakheart reminded me of him and the Kettleblacks.
Robert should’ve expelled Jamie from the kingsguard. Maybe it wouldn’t have been enough to stop Tywins lust for power but you have a good excuse in that he killed the last king he was sworn to protect and Robert giving Tywin a secure line probably wouldve won him over as a more permanent ally
I know right. It seems so inconsistent to me that Tywin didn't even try to have Jaime removed of the kingsguard so he could become his heir again (we all know he was really pissed about Jaime joining the kg). Cersei marrying Robert was more than enough to solidify the alliance between Baratheon and Lannister.
@@tronalddump1133 Yeah, what was even Tywin's heir strategy? Tyrion? Kevan? Lancel? They all seem pretty silly, right? Jaime was in tbe Kingsguard for years, maybe decades. Tywin should have had a strategy for that, right?
You cant say each kings kingsguard when you only cover 4. It was a great video as always but dont clickbait
Scarif nobody gives 2 shits about the other kings, don't act like you will remember the names of people that have no relevance in the books or tv show
Josh Mcgeough The reason I love game of thrones is because of the lore. Learning about The history of the swords, the houses who owned them and how they came into possession of them are my favourite things about ASOIAF, and so the history of the kings guard is no different
Josh Mcgeough There is a big ass book that talks about nearly everything that had every happened prior to the current story and it’s honestly my favourite entry in the series
Josh Mcgeough speak for yourself why don't you. Some of the best characters aren't even in the books or show
Scarif isnt there also another book of a targaryen being a squire to a hedge knight? or something like that. cant quite remember
Aerys had The White Bull, Barristan the Bold, Prince Lewyn, The Sword of the Morning, and Jaime (who Barristan admits is the best natural swordsman he ever saw) and he still managed to eff it up.
i think i need to read the book
Robert's kingsguard should've been: Barristan, Jaime, Blackfish, Balon Swann, Lyke Grakehall, Gerold Dayne and Lyn Corbray!
Ser Balon Swann is the best current Kingsguard imo
Loras actually volunteered. "When the sun has set, no candle can ever replace it."
Whats with Ser Duncan the Tall?
Wasn't he a friend and even Knight for Aegon aka Egg when he was young?
i think he even was lord commander of the kingsguard but under the predecessor of Aerys II
Ser Duncan died in the fire at Summerhall which happened before the mad king reigned. He is a great character, just outside the timeline here.
Ser Duncan the Tall was a Kingsguard knight during Maekar I, Egg's father. When Egg ascended the throne as Aegon V, he appointed Ser Duncan as the Lord Commander of his Kingsguard, being the former Lord Commander dying in his sleep.
My Kingsguard rosters of all time: Ser Rickard Thorne, Ser Barristan Selmy, Ser Duncan the Tall, Ser Criston Cole the Kingmaker, Sandor Clegane, Ser Aemon the Dragonknight, Ser Samgood of Sour Hill.
7:21 the spear just entirely goes through the steel plating on the helmet (which would have been good steel too) and than through the back of the skull and out the front?
It’s shit like this that must irritate GRRM. And why the show is such a disgrace to Martins realism;
probably hitting the barren part of the necc to the head?
since pod the rod is shorter he probablu aims it higher?
It was definitely Littlefinger who ordered Ser Mandon to kill Tyrion.
2:12 oddly in the show the tower was only defended by two Kingsguard...
4:00 proving that mad and stupid were equally appropriate adjectives here. Jaime was the only one allowed to bear a weapon the throne room (as the only KG in King's Landing) meaning his hostage and prisoner was the only person armed when Tywin attacked the city.
One of my favorites is Ser Duncan the Tall
1:37 Jaime looks a bit like Josh Holloway in this image, I think would also have been great in the role ^^
Damn the made king had the best Generation of kingsguard, all of then valiant, loyal, honorable, and skilled, robert had the worse most of them being incompetent, dishonorable and psychotic. Tommen and jeoffery's are just falling apart
In my opinion, Robert's kingsguard should've been Barristan, Jaime, Blackfish, Lyke Grakeball, Balon Swann, Gerold "Darkstar" Dayne and Lyn Corbray!
the show didn't do the kingsguard justice the arthur dayne was good but that's it
Arthur Dayne was terrible in the show. Dual wielding swords in the way he did is 0% cool and 100% Hollywood bullshit. It also takes away from one of his very few defining features, his (probably) magical greatsword (which means is always requires two hands, making the dual wielding even more stupid) Dawn. Arthur Dayne was one of the Kingsguard knights that were butchered the worst, even in his short appearance.
I had a question actually I am not able to understand this thing when benjen Stark dropped Bran Stark on the wall he said he cannot pass the Wall because dead cannot pass until the wall is standing but John and Company brought the Dead from north of the wall to the south of the wall without knowing the wall down..??
How??
Supposedly, it's like the vampires, they have to be "invited" or in this case, brought in by night's watch members.
bran can let him in though?
Aerys II kingsguard was badass
if i were the mad king, ill send jaime to the vanguard so tywin will come help him
Great vid! Thanks for breaking it down for us, dude!
my boy the fucking hell hound killed all of the king guards he's a fucking badass.
So why couldn’t Jamie protect Ellis and her kids
Because at the time of the sack he was trying to prevent Aerys form burning every man woman and child alive in their beds. He couldn't be in two places at once. He was the only Kingsguard in the capital at the time and barely more than a boy himself. He was 17 and left with enormous responsibility and decisions that could affect hundreds of thousands of people. But still his petulant haters refuse to give him a break
@@supremeworld87 he would of had a lot more leeway if he didnt attempt to murder a child while fucking his own sister
Why could he do against a whole army ?
Aerys’s kings guard was really badass they could fight 1000 man 😂
DARRY not DORRY but otherwise great video
Man aerys's kingsguard was stacked. Hightower, dayne, Jaime and selmy.
The armour in the TV show looks like it’s from the 13 and 14 hundreds. I was wondering if it was different in the book.
I always visioned it as a armor from the earlier middle ages since there's many people using mail and leather in the books.
@@Sc4recrow44 Your about a century out regarding plate. You might be confusing 13th (1200's) century with 1300's (14th century)...
1200's - Beginning, everyone pretty much just wearing mail, sometimes would find arm and leg protection made of strips of metal. About half way through the century you started getting the "coat of plates" on top of mail. By the end of the century, most knights would be using this. Many characters can be seen wearing a coat of plates (or something like it) in the show, it's what the mountain wears.
1300's - well, about 1350 really, you started getting single piece breastplates, and either coat of plates covering the back or often just mail. Arms and legs gained more plate protection but were rarely fully enclosed (armour always focused on frontal protection first). Also in this century, the bascinet takes over all helmets for all knights (its the sugar-loaf shaped one, usually with a pointy visor). By the end of the century, you get the faulds, the metal skirt thing that really only works with a full, rigid breastplate and backplate. This is also when jousting took off, now people are well enough armoured not to regularly die whilst competing.
1400's - (early) covered more of the body in plate, getting rid of the gaps that use to just be mail, better articulated joints etc. Started seeing single-piece back plates as well as front plates.
1450 - This is where game of thrones is supposedly meant to be set (war of the roses, so 1455-1487). References to things like "lobstered steel" (presumably referring to segmented joints) and "gorgets" reinforce this. So same trends, better protected joints. Stronger/integrated neck protection. 2 new helmets: Armets pretty much exclusively for the knights and sallets for any one. Also more specialization, eg asymmetric armour for fighting from horseback.
In response to the OP, yes and no.
George RR Martin could have done with reading a few books on historical armour before writing a story full of it. The knights are usually alright in the books, the exception being his obsession with scaled armour, which is historically wrong.
The other armour he loves talking about is mail and (boiled?) leather, which again was never really that popular.
Given the descriptions of some of the armour being very complex, putting the period mid-15th century, I'm really surprised brigandines are never (to my knowledge) mentioned, though from the outside, they are covered in leather, so maybe that's what was meant?
Overall, I do tend to take his armour descriptions with a very large pinch of salt as I think it was Areys Oakheart in Dorne, was pierced by a crossbow bolt that went through his oak shield and then through a plate breastplate (and presumably layers of padding and possibly mail underneath)... Considering they were built to stop a couched lance, I highly doubt that.
@@Sc4recrow44 idk in essos the heavy armor stuff is kinda rare and most of the time is just unsullied agaisnt unsullied or dothraki
leather is not a fucking joke of an armor though
i think they dont have metal or full plate armor due to the necccecity of it
considering the enemies doesn't have one or eill not benefiy one
My Fantasy Kingsguard(Current Storyline Only):
[Lord Commander] Ser Garlan “The Gallant” Tyrell
Ser Lyle "Strongboar" Crakehall
Ser Garth “Greysteel” Hightower
Greatjon Umber
Ser Rolly Duckfield
Ser Archibald Yronwood
Ser Robar Royce
Close contenders:
Brienne of Tarth - Split loyalties
Lothor Brune - Very capable knight with notable feats during the Battle of the Blackwater. Loses out to Ser Robar because Ser Lothor can be bought.
Ser Donnel Swann - Not loyal, having served Renly, Stannis and then Jofferey and Tommon.
Ser Balon Swann - Went along with Cersei's plot of plotting to murder Prince Trystane and blaming it on Tyrion. No integrity.
Ser Gerold "Darkstar" Dayne - Morally corrupt.
Ser Harras Harlaw - Strong Ironborn with a Valyrian Steel Sword but I highly doubt him beating many "Just above average knights". I don't see him surviving the immediate future.
Ser Lyn Corbray - Very skilled at arms with a Valyrian Steel Blade but can be bought *AND* is a pedophile.
The 7 vs 3 fight at the Tower of Joy is even more impressive if you know the law of squares, which is that the force of any group is roughly the square of their numbers. So 49 vs 9 if the fighters were equal. The fact that there were only 2 survivors of the 7 translates to the Kingsguard members having--on average--5 times the ability of the 7.
Hilariously overuse of statistics. Now imagine if any of them had the sense to use some type of bow and defensive tactics.
Ser Arthur Dayne , Ser Baristan Selmy , Ser Jaime Lannister , Ser Gerolt Hightower, Prince Lewyn Martell. Mad king had best Kingsguard undoubtedly
Rhaegar would be alive if he had let Ser Arthur Dayne with him
Huh, you said that the faith was inspiration for the 7 knights. And that might be right. But I always assumed it was one knight for each kingdom. In a way making sure that all of the kings subjects were represented in his personal guard of sorts.
I had never considered it was Petry who wanted Tyrion dead! And that was one thing that I racked my brain thinking about, but Petry makes a likely suspect
well on the show it's Joffrey
Petyr* Sorry, confused me and might confuse others.
And Selmy gets killed by a the KKK... Sad.