How Tywin Lannister Became the Great Lion (Game of Thrones)
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- How Tywin Lannister earned the name of the
Great Lion of the Rock in Game of Thrones / ASoIaF
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I think Charles Dance played the part of Tywin perfectly.
Honestly couldn't have had a better actor play the role
He's the only actor who has replaced my image of a character when I read the books
Agreed
@Feezie F-Baby Tywin and Tyrion saved the city, Tyrion killed major part of Stannis's fleet withthe wildfire trick
yeah to bad he wasnt bald with mutton chops though.
Tywin laughing... I imagine it sounded like "ha" and, that's it.
That's the exact sound he makes when he laughs during his scenes with Arya
@@lost7149 imagine a whole season of Tywin and arya...
@@Blaklyon0 i can't it's too beautiful ;-:
@Blaklyon Den Radio There is a fanfiction, the "Wolf among lions". It has more than 100 chapters. The main characters are Arya, Tywin and Jaime. In the beginning Littlefinger revealed Arya to Tywin and it is changed the whole story. If you liked the Arya Tywin scenes then it definitely worth to read.
@@patriksagi5571 nice! Thanks for the intel!
How different things would have been, had Tywin appreciated Tyrion.
Had he not played his children like chess pieces a lot of things would have been different for house lannister
You don’t get it.
No one will respect and or fear house Lannister if some hideous dwarf is heir to casterly rock.
This is medieval times, not today’s pc society where we just love and embrace everyone for all their “differences”.
That shit doesn’t fly in the 7 kingdoms.
At the height of his power, after he had brought the 7 kingdoms peace and prosperity he went and had a dwarf that everyone laughed at him for. “The lion has been humbled by the gods.” Whats worse? His lady wife died giving birth, the one thing he loved in this world. The sole reason Tyrion still lives is because Tywin decided not to throw the grotesque infant over some mountain because no matter if he was a monster or not, he was still his son.
Tywin decided to give him a chance and Tyrion simply lived to disappoint him.
LegendInThaMakin gamers rise up
Arthur de R'hllor i wonder how much of that comes from his being neglected, though?
Tywin loved his wife too much that her death killed his love for everything, even for his children. It wasn't pride that killed the lion, it was love.
Gerion, Tywin's brother, said that the best part of Tywin died with Joanna!
Tywin resembles so many historical figures. As it seems becoming powerful demands being cruel to a certain level. Both a hero and a villain to me Tywin definitely one of the best written characters in the ASOIAF circle.
Many and I strongly believe Twyin Lannister is inspired by by King Edward the first, and John of gaunt.
@@Brandonhayhew I haven't read much about them but if you say so. I personally thought Byzantine Emperor Basil II the Slayer of Bulgarians and Tzar of Russia Peter the Great. I'll make sure I read about King Eduard and John of Gaunt though.
I picture him as more of the prince described by macheveli
Tywin was a pussy scared of facing a teenager on the field. His legacy is shit and failed in his life's mission.
@@Angelo-nd4lg why would he face a child prodigy when he had a safer alternative that solved multiple problems at once? His Legacy is regaining his houses status after his father's misrule and in this he was immensely succesful. Tywin failed as a father that was his downfall.
More like how Tywin Lannister became the most feared man in the Realm
masteroftheassassins and a raging asshole to Tyrion for something that honestly wasn’t his fault
All he did in the end was wreck his own legacy. By not paying attention to his mental disturbed children. An treating Tyrion like he was a Frey who broke guest rights by murdering his mom. He also forgot karma is a bitch.
NOTHING IS TRUE
Being feared by others are the quality that make a lion.
I think even his brothers feared him. It was known they were jealous of him...
All these unique names aaaand then you have Kevin lmao
It's Kevan lannister so points for it being spelt differently.
A lot of Lannister names are just misspellings of normal name, e.g Genna, Jaime
@@sey1524 talk about Tytos😂
@@sey1524 in Spanish "Jaime" is a real name, pronounced "Hai-meh"
it's Kevan, fool
Tywin is a fascinating character. You could say he’s a villain, but he really was someone who knows how to get shit done.
That’s the beauty of the ASOIAF. None of the characters save for a couple of them fall into the normal troupes that are in the fantasy genre. It relied on realism and those troupes were turned on their heads.
lots of villains know how to get shit done, they're still villains
@@AeneasGemini I love tywin he was so capturing and badass and the lannisters are the most iconic house imo. You could call them villains but asoiaf is filled with grey characters it's not black and white so no one's a hero nor a villain
From the point of view of the main characters (Tyrion especially), he does indeed come across as a villain, but is he though? He commands respect of his lords and is somewhat loved by the small folk (not very much, of course, but well enough). He seeks order, stability and prosperity, as well as the maintenance of greatness and respect his house has. Essentially he seeks to bring peace and stability to Westeros, albeit on his own terms. I would hesitate to call him a villain. But then, NOBODY is either perfectly good or bad in ASOIAF. Still, compared to many other lords, who simply try to advance their positions without much regard for the realm, I think Tywin is a pretty good character, with some dark touches to him.
EDIT: And by the way, when he served as hand to The Mad King, the realm prospered and stability ruled. And this despite the Kong’s wild schemes, unpredictable nature and bad temper.
Tywin is a villain. He removed Aegon V's reforms that gave the commoners rights, he broke sacred laws and traditions, traumatized Tyrion, and allowed his men to rape, pillage, and commit entire genocides.
@@gfilmer7150 although Tywin does some fairly terrible things, that does not inherently make him the ‘villain’ as that would mean that there must be some foil provided to stand in as the ‘hero’ and last I checked there is not one person who is an accurate foil for Tywin... interestingly enough Tyrion is considered by many to be a ‘hero’ of the story and yet of all the Lannister descendants Tyrion is the most like Tywin... imho people need to stop trying to find heroes and villains as the human experience isn’t very good at making either of those things.
Aerys was screwing Tywin over and over from heirs to credit, but Tywin got the last laugh.
Tywin’s son convinced a stark to kill aery’s daughter . Forever getting the last laugh
*Tyrion Got The Last Laugh
shit tv series has nothing to do with the books...
@Paperfilia Collectibles Bro, the show's ending might as well not exist.
Tywin doesnt laugh. He got the last stare
"You really think a crown gives you power?"
No. I think armies give you power.
Robb Stark had one, never lost a battle, and you defeated him all the same...
Oh, I know. Walder Frey gets all the credit... or the blame, I suppose, depending on your allegiance.
The Tytos Tywin dynamic is almost comedy.
Tytos = *Does some random thing*
Tywin: AND I TOOK THAT PERSONALLY!
If we look at this from a historical perspective.
Tywin = Edward I of England
Tytos = Henry III
Tarbeck/Reyne = Simon de Montfort
The rebellion is similar to the second barons war where Simon de Montfort rose against the weak Henry III. But Prince Edward rose a royal army and utterly crushed the rebel barons in battle.
tywim was so badass character. ruthless and intelligent in warfare
Tywin Lannister is inspired byJohn of Gaunt and King Edward the first. His back story is very similar like Reyne and Tarbeck rebellions is Simon de Montfort, the Fifth Blackfyre rebellion is like the 9th crusade in which a young prince Edward son of the ineffective king Henry the third (Tyto Lannister, ineffective leader). Edward and John both were great political and impressive military leader, ruthless leader but effective.
Everyone notice the symbolism in the picture at 11:50.
Jaime looking smug next to his father with his right arm being covered by glove to indicate him losing his hand.
Cersei sitting pridefully, right next dolls to indicate her children, a goblet probably to indicate her status a Queen. An a toy castle to indicate what is symbolizes the Red keep.
An Tyrion looking sad having a bow to Symbolize Joffrey's crossbow and a arrow pointed directly at Tywin.
And if you really think about it. The children are laying in the way they died. Tommen I'm assuming died face down in the show after he committed suicide. I've not read the books so not sure if they even get to him dying. Joffery laying face up near the goblet due to poison. Her daughter (blanked on name) laying in a boat as she died due to poison on a boat in the show.
As an author, I have to thank you. It's content like this that gives our stories - in this case Martin's stories - such vibrantly long lives once the last page has been turned. Really good stuff. :)
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I think when Tywin sacked the city he also felt a degree of satisfaction to stick it to the king. After all he had worked tirelessly and all the king ever did to reward him for all that work was trying to sabotage and undermine him.
also, the mad king raped his wife and nine months later tyrion was born
It was kinda spiteful wasn't it? Yet Tywin was never one to pick the losing side.
In the books, Tywin seems more like a force of nature than a character. I love it.
if I'm not mistaken, Gerion in the books is missing, not dead. granted he probably is dead but you know... nobody saw his body so... he could still be out there!
You are right, he went off to find the Lannister's family sword, "Bright Roar". Its rumored he got shipwrecked on his way to Eastros and is most likely dead.
I thought he had sailed to Old Valyria to find bright roar and the recipe for Valyrian steel
@@wrynightraven5255 yeah I thought so too and even tygett went missing
@@motorhh Gerion went missing while on his quest to Old Valyria, but Tygett died of pox.
Correct. He went off to Valyria in search of an old heirloom and never returned. This uncle of Tyrion’s was always kind to him… so could have been a good guy, or (since it’s Tyrions POV we get this story) he might have been The same cunning asshole Tywin was but just gave Tyrion Love…
You said "War of the Five Penny Kings"... but its actually Nine Penny Kings
He had lisp, soooo
@@rendrarifaldi3469 a lisp wouldn't make someone mishear the difference between 9 and 5. There is no "s" or "th" sound in the words "war of the five penny kings" or "war of the 9 penny kings" so a lisp isn't an issue of mispronunciation, he made a mistake but that is fine, we all do it sometimes. But a lisp had nothing to do with it.
@@daltonevans3412 it sure mad a difference for non native speaker. I have to replay some sentences to figure out what was he saying...
Give em Break He does a lot for us he's aloud to mess up every now and then
Eh, it's just four cents, it's alright
only if Rheager wasn't obsessed with making the third baby with lyanna things could've been so different and beautiful.
it was already heading towards civil war with the mad king
He would be killed anyway like Elia and her kids
I found your vids recently and I can't stop watching them. As someone who hasn't read the books yet the amount of information and lore behind everything is truly amazing and awesome. Subbed!
My absolute favorite character.
How different things could have been, if Cersei and Jaime had married Oberyn and Elia?
It wouldn't have lasted. Westeros culture is way different than that of Doran (even though they were apart of the 7 kingdoms too).
Alex Kyriacou Wasn’t Cersei first betrothed to Rhaegar?
@@skellymelly8481 No, Tywin WANTED her to be but basically, The Mad King was salty that Tywin was getting all the credit for how well the Kingdom was being run (even though he was running it) so he rejected Tywin's proposal for the marriage and assigned Jaime to the Kingsguard to rob Tywin of his heir to Caslterock. Sorry if I misspelled the land.
Demonwolf570 Oh okay, thx for clearing it up
@@skellymelly8481 No problem.
"I am you father, writ small' -Tyrion Lannister.
I always think Tywin was dumb to offer Tyrion for Elia. The key was to remove the competitors for Rhaegar's hand in marriage so Cersei could marry Rhaegar. *Princess* Elia was far stronger competition than *Lady* Lysa Tully and Dorne is a better ally than the Tully's. I don't know why Tywin didn't set up the Elia/Jaime match to leave the route more clear for Cersei and Rhaegar.
If Jaime took Elia, who would Rhaegar take? Cat/Lysa= never royalty. Lyanna Stark = maybe too young/promised to Robert. Ashara Dayne = maybe too young but Aerys is 1/4 Dayne, so it's maybe an option. Other minor house = possible, but Aerys prefers houses with more status.
Because Jamie was in the kings guard I think
@@itsyaboi921this was before Jamie was appointed to serve as a Kingsguard. Tywin rejected the betrothal offer not long after Joanna died, when Jamie was still a boy.
The Laughing Lion is the exact opposite of The Laughing Storm. This Baratheon was laughing in battle.
This was really great. Keep making videos like this, I will always watch them!
If Ser Barristan hasn't saved Aerys and he was killed during the Defiance of Duskendale. What would've been.?
He asked himself this question, thinking that Rhaegar would have been King and all what happened could have maybe be prevented.
Tywin was kind of hoping on it, he actually said if Aeris were to died they had a better king with Rhegar
@@ButtersTheGreat1 what would Westeros look like if Rhaegar became king?
5:23 I like how far Tyrion is from is other siblings here to subtly represent how much his family distances themselves from him. Also, I didn't even realize that song at the Red Wedding was "The Rains of Castlimere" (apologies if I misspelled it). I only recognized it as the credits song for The Purple Wedding.
Before the Red Wedding happened I got this uneasy feeling that something bad was going to happen (it was my first time watching the show and I avoided spoilers) and like everyone else I was horrified when it happened
Hope the music masks my sick voice and the snowstorm happening outside
Honestly i think the sound of snowstorm would make a video about a song of ice and fire better. Also, get better.
What snow?
Tywinn Lannister narrated Savage Kingdom, asserting his lion title even more
Dude, your videos are only reason i survive at work. Pop in the bluetooth and listen to you for hours lol.
Love the effort you put into these videos, thank you!
dude this was INCREDIBLE! Iv read the books and you nail this my guy! Please keep it up
Thank you
It’s kinda sad to see how the Lannister’s in the books are actually crumbling, be it from Stannis, the faith, the Tyrells, the Dornishmen, the Golden Company, and the Riverlands, with probably the North and Vale looking likely to also attack the Lannister’s, along with Dany and the Others.
Also, who do you guys think Dany would’ve gone after first, the Baratheon’s or the Lannister’s?
I think the Golden company taken care of the Baratheon by Young griff. Dany is likely target the Lannister for killing her father and her sister in law Elia
I can't wait to see Dany meeting Stannis and Jaime!
I feel like the Lannister rule over the Westerlands aretrult at an end. After Cersei is dead or deposed, there will be a House Baratheon of Casterly Rock. Tyrion could get it but I don’t think he will as literally everybody hates him in Westeros and don’t think Daenerys will give Casterly Rock to him.
Thanks. An extraordinary exposition.:)
When you look at tywin he actually looks like a lion, like if he was a cartoon character he would deffo be king of the jungle
U r awesome!! Keep it up I need more!!!! Thanks
Dat one who craves souls tho... Even in the background, that song still gives me chills
Your videos have been so interesting and informative.
Great vid again champ,keep it up.
Great stuff man!
Great job on these videos! If you haven't done one already , can you do one on the history of Maesters and the citadel
Tywin Lannister backstory is like King Edward the first
I’m pretty sure that who he was based after strange how Stannis played him in the outlaw king
@@magnusthered4973 stannis character is inspired by emperor Tiberius, he was a tyrant and had no sons, but did had a daughter.
@@Brandonhayhew which is funny considering only show stannis is somewhat a tyrant
@@magnusthered4973 stannis is a tyrant but also a capable leader. He would make a terrible king.
@@Brandonhayhew and do would Jon danyerys Robb Stark Joffrey and renly everyone would make terrible Kings and queens
Another Great one!!
The think your the best at what you do and keep it up please!! It a great show, every time you do one it's awesome!!!! Do more soooon Thanks you. Lord Stephen
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Can you do a video explaining about the last names given to bastards?
UncoverTheNews the last name given to bastard children are based on where they’re born. E.G, Jon Snow (northern Bastard) Brendan Rivers (river lands bastard) Elaria Sand (Dornish bastard) etc.
@@Seafood-jj1dn I had no idea about that, thanks
@@geraldk1931 Seemed pretty self evident...
@@Seafood-jj1dn
most have the name from the region where they were born and/or raised, but its not a rule.
examples: Brynden Rivers is born in the Crownlands and raised in the Crownlands, he is a Rivers because his mother was from the Riverlands.
Obara Sand born in Oldtown but not a Flowers
Ser Tyland Lannister the heritage is still there so I think that’s a constant
Love how Genna Lannister looks like a man in the family tree at about one minute in 👍🏻
And it makes me really sad that the awesome Castamere home was completely destroyed. It would have been so fun to have a house that was 90% underground (except for the whole danger of flooding...).
Don't know what Tywin expected from Dorne, offering *Tyrion* as a husband for Elia 🤦🏼♀️
Great job. I love these
love your videos man
Thanks for the vid I love GoT lore
been awhile since we've seen a detailed map of some place, will we be seeing another one soon?????
You should do a video on the biggest structures in ASoIAF. It would be awesome to learn how big the Five Forts are and if they're close in size to the Wall.
If I remember correctly the five forts in the ASOIAF are Bigger than the wall and made of the black stone that is common with other unusual structures
They're taller but no one has mentioned bigger, the wall is thicker and longer.@@keithgarcia7470
The show leaving out the Tysha reveal really marks the beginning of its downfall
Tywin met Aerys during his time as a cupbearer in the capital prior to the war of the nine penny kings.
Great vid
You should do a video for each Targaryen King
“These are my kids! Tywin, Tygett, Genna, Gerion, and........Kevan”
Tywin and Ned Stark were some of my favorite lords in this show
there is a gap in the narration that doesn't seem to explain the pretext for the war against Tarbeck and Reyne.
The fact that all this history subverts from the main story line of the Song of Ice and Fire makes you appreciate George's genius to world build.
what Tywin has done to Tysha and Tyrion should not have been cut in the show.
It wasn't was it? It has been a while since I watched the show, but didn't Tyrion tell us about it when he first met Shae.
Bradley Westerman he did. But in the books Jamie tells Tyrion about the truth of Tysha, that she wasn’t a whore and that she truly loved Tyrion. Because of that Tyrion killed Tywin, in the books
I demand a Tywin prequel show.
First
Love yr videos keep up the great work
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Tyrion bout to kill Tywin: MY SWEET FATHER NUMPSAY!!!!!
Man, that must be hurt. But he keep working
Being a nice guy is critical to being an effective leader, a little popular support can go always, but you cant rule if all you do is speak the approval of others
By being more Lion than his father.
Tywin is one of my favorite characters. He runs his family with a iron fist or iron paw 🦁
nice vid
we so need a roberts rebellion series right now...
Arya made Tywin laugh/smile, but that might have just been in the show
Tywin was no king but when soldiers approached they always bent the knee
Nice video
Damn Tywin might be my favourite character in ASOIAF
Ever tried Afrin my friend? You sound very congested.
This world is literally so fucking detailed it feels like I'm listening to real history. No wonder it takes this man years between books
Yo that tyrion thing was mad
You wrote "twyin" in the title not tywin
6:50
I think Kevan's submission came more out of comfort and duty than weakness. Some people prefer receiving orders than giving them. I do think that if Kevan lived longer he would have let go of the throne as soon as he could as it really isn't what he likes.
8:50
I don't think that is impossible. After all it could have been both, Tywin is one who would try to solve multiple problems.
@Freðrick Ólafursson. Indeed and I think in a lot of media that is treated as a bad thing.
Actually I think that Tywin only weak more the position that the Lannister had in the realm that his father ever did, Tytos was a very weak Lord, but Tywin policy of making the other nobles fear you instead of respecting you only made the numbers of the Lannister enemies grow over the years, that, and the fact that Tywin was more worry about his legacy than his actual family, and his totally recklessness and blindness when it come to his immediate family made all fall apart in the end, let not speak that Tywin was a total hypocrite, bashing Tyrion for the same sins that he did in secret.
do I say not as I do that should of been one of his sayings
Like niccolo Machiavelli said... it is better to be feared than to be loved.
Did all the honour and respect ned had save him?
@@LegendInThaMakin No, but he didn't die assassinated on the toilet.
@@TheSpiritsLease he died a traitor's death with people cheering at his death
@@LegendInThaMakin Did that fear save Aerys? You push people hard enough and they will push back no matter the cost. However if they love you, they will follow you to the deepest hell, not because of fear, or because they have to, but because they want to, and this is much more powerful than simply forcing people to do your bidding.
@some guy He died knowing he did the right thing with his honor intact and his legacy remembered. Can you say the same thing when you die?
Sooooo good
13:58 *Tyrion, not Tywin
Damn Tywin was out here playing ck2 while everyone was playing agot
Aria .. Riding into the sunset ..
Tywin is Charles Dance and Charles Dance is Tywin.
Find it crazy how so many people defend Tywin and proclaim him one of the greatest characters. Let’s say he’s admirable, sure - he raised his house from a joke to one of the most feared houses in Westeros. But shit, Hitler lifted Germany from the Great Depression into an imperialist state, is he now admirable? Tywin slaughtered innocent women and children to make his house great. He was an evil man. And at the end of the day, he lost, it was all for nothing. He failed to create a legacy and ended up dying on the toilet - all because of his cruelty towards Tyrion. His cruelty destroyed his legacy, and ended up with his humiliating death. So many people fail to see the bigger picture with these characters - Tywin achieved many short term successes for his house, but he failed in the long term, catastrophically. And he only has himself to blame.
Amen
Now we have a based one here
Thank you. Too many people stan this fuck.
I think tywin did see and appreciate tyrion, he knew he was smart and cunning, why else would he make him the hand of the king, at one of the most crucial times, tywin did turn to his son when he needed him the most because he was desperate.
How do you build a castle underground but not have multiple ways to sneak out
That Demon's Souls music in the background though.
Tywin needs a spinoff
"One family outright defied Tywin..."
Wonder how that went.
"House Reyne..."
Yep.
I like how you called him the best lion instead of the old lion because that's what he is "great"
The westerosi sure are creative when naming their heroes. The guy is a Stark? The Wild Wolf! A Tully? The Black Fish! A Targaryen? Dragon something. At least the Red Viper doesn't have a damn snake in his coat of arms
I fr thought that was thanos on the thumbnail
Now that you mention it what was Tywin doing with Shae in the first place. It goes against his character.
it would be quite amusing if it was ever divulged that Jamie, Cersei where fathered by Aerys.... and Tyrion also... banging Johanna.... Which would mean that House Lannister has been "dead" of heirs long time ago and after Kevan and Lancel also gone then ALL direct line to Tytps was gone gone gone......
Nice family portrait at 12:06 .... Charles Dance with hair!!!!
Kevan and Lancel are still alive in the book
@@wiseguy01 Kevan isn't
@@dreamweaver5448 oh right, Varys assassinated him, I forgot
Not really house lannister is freaking huge.
Lannisport is filled with Lannisters.
His painting looks like Mark Strong
The Machiavelli of Westeros!
No, that's Baelish
Archandon
Machiavelli was neither. He was a writer.
@@alexthelizardking yeah. Though which character did he inspire more? Hmm