4. While we’re on the subject, I’ve never liked the concept of leaders being chosen just because they are the “eldest”. The person in charge should be the best suited, not just who was born first. Ex: People immediately looked to Ruka as being the potential leader for BABYMONSTER during pre debut just because she is the eldest, but then they slowly realized Rora (someone a part of the maknae line) was actually more fitting and acted surprised that it was a possibility just because “she’s a baby” The maknae treatment is dumb
@@AnoymousFortnite I like the fact that Enhypen did a test and then chose their own leader. Who better to pick who should run the team than the members of said team
@@StLaRizzI’m sorry but even though Jungwon is my bias wreker i dont see him as a leader, maybe Jay could be a leader but anyway i don’t really see a LEADER in Enhypen which is completely fine
It's cuz of the "respect the senior" culture that's so ingrained in their everyday life. Aside from having bosses and managers (with regards to co workers ) if you're not born in the same year, the others are a dongsaeng or noona/unnie/oppa/hyung to you. They could also be a seonbae or hoobae to you.
4. Jeongin has been on a (mostly successful) "Pls find me hot not cute" campaign for the past two years as well. He's so tired of being seen as the cute baby of the group 😭
honestly i think sometimes he still likes being babied if you skz's like fun content sometimes it does seem like he enjoys being babied by the members but in general yea hes had quite the concept change for himself
This is my hot take, TWICE's music hasn't been "bad" or even "disappointing." I think JYP has them releasing so much that it's leading to overexposure, and each release is getting eaten up by the other and eras are clashing. I think With You-th would've come off a whole lot more mature if the era hadn't started 3 months after the Ready to Be era ended, alongside Jihyo's solo era happening. They're being overworked, and they're veteran acts who don't need to release music 24/7. Not every release needs to be groundbreaking, but they should at least stand out from the other.
A Korean TH-camr tell about why Korean bully and hate on other is normalised in Korea. He said whenever he heard about hate on someone he feel relieved it's not him. Like hate on someone is Korean way to release their stress or way to survive the insecurity
Source music is doing good for lesserafim Good for the girls I saw a comment on TikTok saying that source music is childish for suing people like wtf Sue them kids😂😂😂
If u havent involved in any of these, the suing shouldnt affect u🤷♀️ calling it stupid, childish just shows their fear coz they might have joined the hate train & is now feared😂😂
people are being so hypocritical when it comes to source music taking legal action against harassment. when it’s wonyoung/starship it’s iconic, when it’s MHJ and new jeans it’s protecting the artists but as soon as it’s a group you dislike it’s ‘childish’ and ‘unfair’ like what 😭😭
1. Am glad SoMu is doing something for the girls, I hope that something includes vocal lessons and a little course about acting humble and owning their mistakes. I still claim this would have not scalated that much if the members acted more humble about their skills and the initial critiques about their Coachella stage. 6. Wonyoung is the perfect example that an idol do not need to be a vocal powerhouse, she is good enough for her group music and to perform live. There are better vocalist out there, yes, but she is good enough and had keep improving since her debut with IVE in all aspects.
People really dont need to go deep to learn that Wonyong is a great idol, she's confident and charismatic, but never arrogant. She's never upset on screen, never rude, never complaining. The "cringey" things she does are all to cater to her audience and advertisers. She dances well, sings well and is entertaining. She doesn't let the mean comments get to her, but takes the criticism in and improves herself silently. She also knows very well the difference between hate and slander, which is why she sued that TH-cam channel that was spreading lies about her while never replying to the childish hate she faces everyday- she doesnt pick any fight! She's a good, hardworking girl who is perfectly media trained and very well advised by the people around her. I'm very glad Starship, though a terrible company overall, at least aknowlegdes and makes an effort to protect her and I wish more people took her as an example of how to navigate this tough industry gracefully
Honestly I'm tired of twices lindgrim tracks with exception of I can't stop me they're very generic compared to the other title tracks they sound like background music.
Yes and on that note parents should think twice before letting their child become a public figure were hate comments are an everyday occurrence. Sorry but that’s reality, some of the comments were hate but majority of the ones I’ve seen are making fun of the girls singing so I don’t know if that’s« hate » it’s one thing to harass someone online unprovoked it’s another to see a horrible performance and leave comments saying « this sucks » 💁♀️
1. It really shows that nobody has learned anything about giving hate and what it can do to someone. Like I’ve heard a lot about some idols taking their lives due to the hate they get and this could easily be the same for the Le Sserafim members. I pray that never happens, but it’s the fact that it COULD. Those commenters deserve everything they’re gonna get
I find it weird that people think idols from western countries should “know better” when it comes to cultural appropriation and use of slurs. EVERYONE should know better. Yeah, people in western countries tend to discuss the issue way more openly, but it’s not like Koreans have never heard of racial issues before in their lives. Especially as idols, it’s really important to be aware of such basic social issues.
Western racial issues aren't relevant to everyday life in Korea. People are too busy to worry about Western race neuroses. Class inequality is the main problem and it affects everything in Korea.
wonyoung was put to sing in a high-pitched nasal voice but now she sings in her natural voice and in her comfortable range. her tone is actually really good ❤
8. ATE DOWN! People were really pushing this agenda like babes, what? Xikers and ATEEZ are completely different from each other. Even their debut music sounds nothing like ATEEZ. Y’all just wanna bring down xikers because of how amazing the’ve been since debut but we won’t allow it!
1. I wish belift lab would do the same as source music for illit. THIS is how we protect idols. 2. I been saying this for a while. JYPE as a whole just lost it talent for girl groups. All this talent and it feels like they are stuck at a point they don’t know what to do and lost memory of what made their groups amazing. I would love to see twice dive in something unique. Like a siren concept 4. The way it’s 2024 and they still on wonyoung vocals. Like I saw a post on twitter saying if you Stan wonyoung for her talent your lying cus if you want to Stan someone in ive for talent you should Stan the best (this is a liz Stan)
I believe BeLift are suing now...these nasty little keyboard warriors are going to learn MHJ isn't the be all and end all and faceless hate from behind a screen has repercussions
Also I’m sorry girl but I hate the hypocrisy of the idols being minors excuses 🙄I’m not buying it, oh so now they’re getting hate comments it’s « please she’s just a child🥺 » please (deep eye role🙄) you perves are the ones debuting the minors did you think of their mental health and what being in the public eye means😂😂😂
1.the action by source Music 👏It's time for the delulu train that every trifling, pushing, instigating, paranoically disturbed "fAnS" has been onto to be brought BACK into the station. time they get a dose of how artists handle shit in the west. 4. the day the kpop scene balances infantilization and youth will be the day many drawn to the industry...will just explode. ooops 5. k netzines being confused about what actual "star" level performance looks like news flash, the most successful musicians who continue to sell out stadiums don't listen to non musicians saying "over performer" "does to much". 7. weird vibe indeed. fans treat foreign idols like there the "in" into that k group while not extending the same courtesies and respect for boundary's that they extend to the k members. and people wonder why foreign idols are "rude? always sassy" like no, they just understand your weird, creepy, obsessive ass behavior that there k members were taught to just "let go" and were raised not to take the same.🙂🙃
I believe Hybe should have handled lesserafim s coachella stage differently. It was a mess and this hate train started from this. I hope the girls improve so shit like this does not happen again. You cannot stop hate comments in peak of Internet era.
Im so happy that source music is taking legal action. Also i have seen many people purposely acting dumb and being like " oh they can't take criticism". Like wtf!! The girls were getting bullied and people have the audacity to call it just criticism.
I hate Trump but American politics is more than one man’s lack of a moral compass. People vote on issues. People who oppose illegal immigration, abortion and big government couldn’t care less if Trump is a criminal. As much as I love your distaste for Trump, the comparison is as apples and oranges as can be. Kpop is entertainment. American politics on the other hand, has a profound effect on the livelihood of every day people
If words carry weight then I HOPE to god Le Sserafim and Source Music focuses on the constructive criticisms and hire a vocal coach coz god knows they need one
Thanks for the video. N°6: I don't get the idea. What's overperforming? A game? The word OVER gives us the meaning. The rest is unnecessary. We're talking about groups. Be careful. Overperforming means that the others are underperforming. And it isn't true. I find it disgusting when idols overperform, just to get more screen time or more views in fancams.
1. So apparently, JYP switch their management teams for some of their groups like Itzy. I hope this translates well, like JYP artists have pretty good stage presence. But that doesn’t matter if you’re being manage poorly. 2. The Le Sserafim hate was getting out of hand. Like why can’t people stay on topic? Why people gotta start talking about people’s pre-debut pictures and unliving threats.
I really respect your opinions. I thought they would be nasty, but you are almost always far from anything similar. Brutal or blunt, but you justify and it does not feel ill-intentioned.
I agree with ur opinion on Twice's concept. They do too much retro . I want to see them try and edm trap type song. I want them to try a concept like Kill This Love, How You Like That or Pink Venom, with Arabian instrumentals like their song Go Hard or Hell In Heaven. I also am getting tired of repetitive concepts in kpop. I am getting sick of those same cafe shop scenes or those flowers room scenes. I want to see smth different like a futuristic concept wave and trend in Kpop. Like a TRON Grid, Cyberpunk and Cybernetics type concept. I also want to see a rise in Arabic/Turkish/ Indian and Middle Eastern instrumentals.
sure sure... whatever you demand, they will deliver. Ofc your interest is what they prioritize!! lmao wake up already.. plus TWICE don't do retro, TWICE is a certified pop group, their songs are equivalent to pop excellence but just in korean, nobody can take it away from them as they've established their sound since debut.
@@theymakefunofmyname-qz4dq I ain't hating on TWICE at all. They r my Ult group along with ATEEZ. But I feel like they need to do more in their concept variety. That is all I'm saying ( their Japanese bside 😭😭😭)
There is overperforming that is second nature like Jungkook or BTS as a whole who give their 💯 without coming off as trying too hard . . . Then there is overperforming with that “ I am better than you but trying so hard “ vibe which is what I think some netizens are picking up
This is funny because when koreans don’t see hate comments on leseafirm post they say some corny shit like “manning comments i see” like what do you expect
It´s honestly so funny, i saw many k-nets that are getting sued, crying online saying that le sserafim is ruining their lives for suing them
I literally cackled because wtf did y’all expect?
@@kayziofficial what?
@LeonorIsabel they're agreeing with your comment
@@chengetaimubaiwa2239 yes, sorry got confused
This shows how little Le Sserafim cares about other humans. Everyone should boycott Le Sserafim. No one know when they ruin some other teens life.
4. While we’re on the subject, I’ve never liked the concept of leaders being chosen just because they are the “eldest”. The person in charge should be the best suited, not just who was born first.
Ex: People immediately looked to Ruka as being the potential leader for BABYMONSTER during pre debut just because she is the eldest, but then they slowly realized Rora (someone a part of the maknae line) was actually more fitting and acted surprised that it was a possibility just because “she’s a baby”
The maknae treatment is dumb
They should choose the most responsible and capable person not the oldest like in ateez and bts and if the most responsible is the oldest then.
@@AnoymousFortnite I like the fact that Enhypen did a test and then chose their own leader. Who better to pick who should run the team than the members of said team
@@StLaRizz yeah it's better than forcing someone cause they know each other best
@@StLaRizzI’m sorry but even though Jungwon is my bias wreker i dont see him as a leader, maybe Jay could be a leader but anyway i don’t really see a LEADER in Enhypen which is completely fine
It's cuz of the "respect the senior" culture that's so ingrained in their everyday life. Aside from having bosses and managers (with regards to co workers ) if you're not born in the same year, the others are a dongsaeng or noona/unnie/oppa/hyung to you. They could also be a seonbae or hoobae to you.
Now all I need is SM to follow in Source Musics footsteps and sue those trolls for making up and distributing disgusting rumors about NCT 🤨🤔
4. Jeongin has been on a (mostly successful) "Pls find me hot not cute" campaign for the past two years as well. He's so tired of being seen as the cute baby of the group 😭
honestly i think sometimes he still likes being babied if you skz's like fun content sometimes it does seem like he enjoys being babied by the members but in general yea hes had quite the concept change for himself
This is my hot take, TWICE's music hasn't been "bad" or even "disappointing." I think JYP has them releasing so much that it's leading to overexposure, and each release is getting eaten up by the other and eras are clashing. I think With You-th would've come off a whole lot more mature if the era hadn't started 3 months after the Ready to Be era ended, alongside Jihyo's solo era happening. They're being overworked, and they're veteran acts who don't need to release music 24/7. Not every release needs to be groundbreaking, but they should at least stand out from the other.
A Korean TH-camr tell about why Korean bully and hate on other is normalised in Korea. He said whenever he heard about hate on someone he feel relieved it's not him. Like hate on someone is Korean way to release their stress or way to survive the insecurity
Source music is doing good for lesserafim
Good for the girls
I saw a comment on TikTok saying that source music is childish for suing people like wtf
Sue them kids😂😂😂
If u havent involved in any of these, the suing shouldnt affect u🤷♀️ calling it stupid, childish just shows their fear coz they might have joined the hate train & is now feared😂😂
people are being so hypocritical when it comes to source music taking legal action against harassment. when it’s wonyoung/starship it’s iconic, when it’s MHJ and new jeans it’s protecting the artists but as soon as it’s a group you dislike it’s ‘childish’ and ‘unfair’ like what 😭😭
1. Am glad SoMu is doing something for the girls, I hope that something includes vocal lessons and a little course about acting humble and owning their mistakes. I still claim this would have not scalated that much if the members acted more humble about their skills and the initial critiques about their Coachella stage.
6. Wonyoung is the perfect example that an idol do not need to be a vocal powerhouse, she is good enough for her group music and to perform live. There are better vocalist out there, yes, but she is good enough and had keep improving since her debut with IVE in all aspects.
People really dont need to go deep to learn that Wonyong is a great idol, she's confident and charismatic, but never arrogant. She's never upset on screen, never rude, never complaining. The "cringey" things she does are all to cater to her audience and advertisers. She dances well, sings well and is entertaining. She doesn't let the mean comments get to her, but takes the criticism in and improves herself silently. She also knows very well the difference between hate and slander, which is why she sued that TH-cam channel that was spreading lies about her while never replying to the childish hate she faces everyday- she doesnt pick any fight! She's a good, hardworking girl who is perfectly media trained and very well advised by the people around her. I'm very glad Starship, though a terrible company overall, at least aknowlegdes and makes an effort to protect her and I wish more people took her as an example of how to navigate this tough industry gracefully
Honestly I'm tired of twices lindgrim tracks with exception of I can't stop me they're very generic compared to the other title tracks they sound like background music.
I am so proud of Lesserafim for being so strong through all of this !
They are improving, and Yes, I'm saying it, agree or argue with the wall !
Yes and on that note parents should think twice before letting their child become a public figure were hate comments are an everyday occurrence. Sorry but that’s reality, some of the comments were hate but majority of the ones I’ve seen are making fun of the girls singing so I don’t know if that’s« hate » it’s one thing to harass someone online unprovoked it’s another to see a horrible performance and leave comments saying « this sucks » 💁♀️
1. It really shows that nobody has learned anything about giving hate and what it can do to someone. Like I’ve heard a lot about some idols taking their lives due to the hate they get and this could easily be the same for the Le Sserafim members. I pray that never happens, but it’s the fact that it COULD. Those commenters deserve everything they’re gonna get
I find it weird that people think idols from western countries should “know better” when it comes to cultural appropriation and use of slurs. EVERYONE should know better. Yeah, people in western countries tend to discuss the issue way more openly, but it’s not like Koreans have never heard of racial issues before in their lives. Especially as idols, it’s really important to be aware of such basic social issues.
Western racial issues aren't relevant to everyday life in Korea. People are too busy to worry about Western race neuroses. Class inequality is the main problem and it affects everything in Korea.
Source music and hybe can stop the hate train by training their idol to be good vocalist 🤷🤷🤷
That's the only reason. Le sserafim got hate for many stupid things and harassment isn't right be it for a reason or not
wonyoung was put to sing in a high-pitched nasal voice but now she sings in her natural voice and in her comfortable range. her tone is actually really good ❤
8. You missed the word to describe ATEEZ : PIRATES
8. ATE DOWN! People were really pushing this agenda like babes, what? Xikers and ATEEZ are completely different from each other. Even their debut music sounds nothing like ATEEZ. Y’all just wanna bring down xikers because of how amazing the’ve been since debut but we won’t allow it!
1. I wish belift lab would do the same as source music for illit. THIS is how we protect idols.
2. I been saying this for a while. JYPE as a whole just lost it talent for girl groups. All this talent and it feels like they are stuck at a point they don’t know what to do and lost memory of what made their groups amazing. I would love to see twice dive in something unique. Like a siren concept
4. The way it’s 2024 and they still on wonyoung vocals. Like I saw a post on twitter saying if you Stan wonyoung for her talent your lying cus if you want to Stan someone in ive for talent you should Stan the best (this is a liz Stan)
I believe BeLift are suing now...these nasty little keyboard warriors are going to learn MHJ isn't the be all and end all and faceless hate from behind a screen has repercussions
@@Angelictigerjin EXACTLY
Also I’m sorry girl but I hate the hypocrisy of the idols being minors excuses 🙄I’m not buying it, oh so now they’re getting hate comments it’s « please she’s just a child🥺 » please (deep eye role🙄) you perves are the ones debuting the minors did you think of their mental health and what being in the public eye means😂😂😂
I feel so bad for lesserafim, I'm happy that source music is suing
1.the action by source Music 👏It's time for the delulu train that every trifling, pushing, instigating, paranoically disturbed "fAnS" has been onto to be brought BACK into the station. time they get a dose of how artists handle shit in the west.
4. the day the kpop scene balances infantilization and youth will be the day many drawn to the industry...will just explode. ooops
5. k netzines being confused about what actual "star" level performance looks like news flash, the most successful musicians who continue to sell out stadiums don't listen to non musicians saying "over performer" "does to much".
7. weird vibe indeed. fans treat foreign idols like there the "in" into that k group while not extending the same courtesies and respect for boundary's that they extend to the k members. and people wonder why foreign idols are "rude? always sassy" like no, they just understand your weird, creepy, obsessive ass behavior that there k members were taught to just "let go" and were raised not to take the same.🙂🙃
I believe Hybe should have handled lesserafim s coachella stage differently. It was a mess and this hate train started from this. I hope the girls improve so shit like this does not happen again. You cannot stop hate comments in peak of Internet era.
Im so happy that source music is taking legal action. Also i have seen many people purposely acting dumb and being like " oh they can't take criticism". Like wtf!! The girls were getting bullied and people have the audacity to call it just criticism.
I hate Trump but American politics is more than one man’s lack of a moral compass. People vote on issues. People who oppose illegal immigration, abortion and big government couldn’t care less if Trump is a criminal. As much as I love your distaste for Trump, the comparison is as apples and oranges as can be. Kpop is entertainment. American politics on the other hand, has a profound effect on the livelihood of every day people
i really agree with the 7th opinion
If words carry weight then I HOPE to god Le Sserafim and Source Music focuses on the constructive criticisms and hire a vocal coach coz god knows they need one
Eunchae’s comments were horrible after coachella
i really want to see twice royal concept it is not even funny. also i respect source music sm for this
leave twice alone ! if dahyun wants rest its earned! sana needs rest! they have other projects , and their personal lives. they're signed. that all
Thanks for the video. N°6: I don't get the idea. What's overperforming? A game? The word OVER gives us the meaning. The rest is unnecessary. We're talking about groups. Be careful. Overperforming means that the others are underperforming. And it isn't true. I find it disgusting when idols overperform, just to get more screen time or more views in fancams.
1. So apparently, JYP switch their management teams for some of their groups like Itzy. I hope this translates well, like JYP artists have pretty good stage presence. But that doesn’t matter if you’re being manage poorly.
2. The Le Sserafim hate was getting out of hand. Like why can’t people stay on topic? Why people gotta start talking about people’s pre-debut pictures and unliving threats.
I really respect your opinions. I thought they would be nasty, but you are almost always far from anything similar. Brutal or blunt, but you justify and it does not feel ill-intentioned.
Unpopular opinion: nayeon comeback wont be as succesful as Pop
I agree with ur opinion on Twice's concept. They do too much retro . I want to see them try and edm trap type song. I want them to try a concept like Kill This Love, How You Like That or Pink Venom, with Arabian instrumentals like their song Go Hard or Hell In Heaven.
I also am getting tired of repetitive concepts in kpop. I am getting sick of those same cafe shop scenes or those flowers room scenes. I want to see smth different like a futuristic concept wave and trend in Kpop. Like a TRON Grid, Cyberpunk and Cybernetics type concept. I also want to see a rise in Arabic/Turkish/ Indian and Middle Eastern instrumentals.
sure sure... whatever you demand, they will deliver. Ofc your interest is what they prioritize!! lmao wake up already.. plus TWICE don't do retro, TWICE is a certified pop group, their songs are equivalent to pop excellence but just in korean, nobody can take it away from them as they've established their sound since debut.
@@theymakefunofmyname-qz4dq I ain't hating on TWICE at all. They r my Ult group along with ATEEZ. But I feel like they need to do more in their concept variety. That is all I'm saying ( their Japanese bside 😭😭😭)
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Stan XG ❤
lol l love this comment so much😂😂 Stan XG for better health 😌
I never understood why sue someone for hating but anyways that's just me.
There is overperforming that is second nature like Jungkook or BTS as a whole who give their 💯 without coming off as trying too hard . . . Then there is overperforming with that “ I am better than you but trying so hard “ vibe which is what I think some netizens are picking up
This is funny because when koreans don’t see hate comments on leseafirm post they say some corny shit like “manning comments i see” like what do you expect
Speak on #2!!!!!