Honestly, if UMP is littered with this many deaths, I think it makes for a good message, that everything Alex and Joel are doing ends up with them moving forward at the cost of other lives. Their journey may succeed, but it means that all of the friends they once met will never be able to complete their own journey.
This applies double with how this was apparently the BAD ENDING route and avoiding all the Garbage Island bosses except Carlton Guiles nets you a much better outcome.
Oh, I'm well-aware, I've read it. Also posits a really easy to take as canon interpretation of what Hugo and Jason's prior relationship and interactions were like.
Georgy most likely gets tossed by Roland, while Darry and Cannabis get offed by Tido. This went in a way different direction than expected, this is awful but it's very lisa-like, i like it. In downtown, there's a clear feeling of time passing as you climb the folds, since Tido is already infinitized on garbage island, I take it Clarence is already gone, maybe Chaz is already mutated too.
Mmm. In regards to Clarence, he and Alex were briefly on the same island and didn't even know it... assuming the rest of Garbage Island hadn't been overtaken by jerseyheads and Clarence got killed in the chaos. I also agree on it being awful, but undeniably LISA-like with me enjoying it as a result. Heard there's a different outcome if you get the parts earlier. The agony also continues into the next part... with me being increasingly tempted to see the Georgy route as a result ._.
I was worried about the overall balance of the mod but you got pretty close to a few kos there, so i guess its alright. Gonna give this mod a try when I get home from my holiday.
Oh and don't forget the fight with Mr. Wallster. Even with me grinding the Trash Lunatics, if I hadn't stun locked him, he would've royally wrecked my shit six ways to Sunday ._.
...Understatement of the goddamn century. I fucking STUNG seeing Darry go without the proper goodbye he had with Alex, to say nothing of my fishboi Cannabis getting merked, but I was at least thinking a nice silver lining would be how we'd still be able to meet up with Lenny, Prizmik, and Elephante, get the Phone Crew together, and maybe even take the fight to Grind like in Phone Crew Showdowns! Maybe there'd be even a cool mechanic where Prizmik calls in/swaps out different members of Alex's party for the Grind fight! I was wrong ._. Aaaaaaaand I forgot to check the TV before I left. _Fuck._ Eh, well, I heard something unique happens if you still go to fight Roland even after getting Imp's stuff, and I'm gonna assume that the TV becomes available to watch just before or after beating Roland, so I'm gonna go back to that save file soon anyway. Still gonna commit to this run through though. (Oh! Also, thanks for linking me to Markus's fight theme.)
@@MarshadowGirl Oh no, I got you, pal. It's called Judge, Jury and Executioner. soundcloud.com/noltras/pointless I can only assume would be the fight theme for Dill Vagner, the dude with the Chinese Polearm that seemingly executes Rick.
I'm all for deaths in Lisa games, but I can't believe that they did my man Cannabis Fishman like that. Truly, a bad and STUPID game!!!! In all seriousness, I can definitely see the appeal here with just how many potential ways a party member can bite it, its a very Lisa brand of awful, but I personally am not a fan. Again, I'm up for having folks die, but I do feel there's probably a better way to go at it than just having them killed off while you can't do anything about it.
I don't know why but I have a bug and it is that when I get to the desert after talking to Joel, Alex can't move and I can't go to the menu or something, I don't know how to solve it.
Hmmm... and you downloaded the most recent set of patches? If you have and that's still an issue on your end, maybe try joining the modpack's discord and bringing this issue up on the bugs section. Guys there should be able to help you and IIRC, the invite to the Discord is on the modpack's Gamejolt page.
@@NostalgicBlondeDude damn i see the patches before i downladed the game but i didn't know that i should have it, thanks for remember me about that but a question, When I download the patches, will I have to unzip the rar in the same file in which I have saved the game along with everything I already unzipped or will that give me the game again and I will have to do it all again?
Oh shit, seriously? I'll have to get that documented. Is the point of no return linked to the bosses like Will and the Maggot Mother, or related to the new areas? If so, I might skip Markus Wallster fight on a repeat playthrough...
Barely? It crashes all the time for me, even leaving it on for a few minutes in the middle of a fight, just makes it crash. Also couldn't do the Imp route as it always crashes after the balloon cutscene. Georgy route does work tho. I've completed a 2nd fold route on agony mode and it isn't something I recommend playing, as the constant crashes make the game annoying to play.
@@scriggle3564 It's a cool mod, but the problem aren't the small bugs and misspellings, those are to be expected when you do a project like this, those I don't mind. On the other hand the crashes are a big deal, for example, couldn't do the garbage humping quest as whenever I did the last hump, the game would freeze, locking me out of a lot of content. I was playing on agony mode and you can imagine how I felt when I lost like half an hour of progress because of a random crash. (And that's one of my twenty or so crashes!). It's a really fun mod, the new party members, events, enemies and even some bugs like the sprite of Otto (the guy from bureau) being used instead of Cannabi's in a cutscene ,when I had killed Otto earlier, were pretty great. Maybe my copy of the game is cursed hahaha.
Honestly, if UMP is littered with this many deaths, I think it makes for a good message, that everything Alex and Joel are doing ends up with them moving forward at the cost of other lives. Their journey may succeed, but it means that all of the friends they once met will never be able to complete their own journey.
This applies double with how this was apparently the BAD ENDING route and avoiding all the Garbage Island bosses except Carlton Guiles nets you a much better outcome.
6:46 i think this flashback is based on a comic
also rip darry and augustus we lost real ones
Oh, I'm well-aware, I've read it. Also posits a really easy to take as canon interpretation of what Hugo and Jason's prior relationship and interactions were like.
At least Darry got his gummy worm
It’s so weird how you can actually make Punktown sound weirdly creepy in certain scenarios
Georgy most likely gets tossed by Roland, while Darry and Cannabis get offed by Tido.
This went in a way different direction than expected, this is awful but it's very lisa-like, i like it.
In downtown, there's a clear feeling of time passing as you climb the folds, since Tido is already infinitized on garbage island, I take it Clarence is already gone, maybe Chaz is already mutated too.
Mmm. In regards to Clarence, he and Alex were briefly on the same island and didn't even know it... assuming the rest of Garbage Island hadn't been overtaken by jerseyheads and Clarence got killed in the chaos.
I also agree on it being awful, but undeniably LISA-like with me enjoying it as a result. Heard there's a different outcome if you get the parts earlier.
The agony also continues into the next part... with me being increasingly tempted to see the Georgy route as a result ._.
I was worried about the overall balance of the mod but you got pretty close to a few kos there, so i guess its alright.
Gonna give this mod a try when I get home from my holiday.
Oh and don't forget the fight with Mr. Wallster. Even with me grinding the Trash Lunatics, if I hadn't stun locked him, he would've royally wrecked my shit six ways to Sunday ._.
Ain’t no way Alex got jumped by Bobby diddle
That went a lot more terribly than it could've gone.
The plan wasn't worth it, in the end.
...Understatement of the goddamn century. I fucking STUNG seeing Darry go without the proper goodbye he had with Alex, to say nothing of my fishboi Cannabis getting merked, but I was at least thinking a nice silver lining would be how we'd still be able to meet up with Lenny, Prizmik, and Elephante, get the Phone Crew together, and maybe even take the fight to Grind like in Phone Crew Showdowns! Maybe there'd be even a cool mechanic where Prizmik calls in/swaps out different members of Alex's party for the Grind fight!
I was wrong ._. Aaaaaaaand I forgot to check the TV before I left. _Fuck._ Eh, well, I heard something unique happens if you still go to fight Roland even after getting Imp's stuff, and I'm gonna assume that the TV becomes available to watch just before or after beating Roland, so I'm gonna go back to that save file soon anyway.
Still gonna commit to this run through though. (Oh! Also, thanks for linking me to Markus's fight theme.)
@@NostalgicBlondeDudewhich TV?
@@andhappinessjoy2656 Right next to the very beginning shack in this version. I believe you can that demented program Rick was on early via it.
Sorry for just crashing in here, but what is Markus's Fight Theme? I'd love to know that, too.@@NostalgicBlondeDude
@@MarshadowGirl Oh no, I got you, pal. It's called Judge, Jury and Executioner.
soundcloud.com/noltras/pointless
I can only assume would be the fight theme for Dill Vagner, the dude with the Chinese Polearm that seemingly executes Rick.
Dang, not the fish.
Fucking biggest tragedy in the entire LISAverse.
RIP AND F, Cannabis...
I'm all for deaths in Lisa games, but I can't believe that they did my man Cannabis Fishman like that.
Truly, a bad and STUPID game!!!!
In all seriousness, I can definitely see the appeal here with just how many potential ways a party member can bite it, its a very Lisa brand of awful, but I personally am not a fan. Again, I'm up for having folks die, but I do feel there's probably a better way to go at it than just having them killed off while you can't do anything about it.
They also killed geen because the plane crashed into him
I don't know why but I have a bug and it is that when I get to the desert after talking to Joel, Alex can't move and I can't go to the menu or something, I don't know how to solve it.
Hmmm... and you downloaded the most recent set of patches? If you have and that's still an issue on your end, maybe try joining the modpack's discord and bringing this issue up on the bugs section. Guys there should be able to help you and IIRC, the invite to the Discord is on the modpack's Gamejolt page.
@@NostalgicBlondeDude damn i see the patches before i downladed the game but i didn't know that i should have it, thanks for remember me about that but a question, When I download the patches, will I have to unzip the rar in the same file in which I have saved the game along with everything I already unzipped or will that give me the game again and I will have to do it all again?
This is just one of two variants of the imp d route if you get all the key items before too many areas have rain then youll get yourself a suprise
Oh shit, seriously? I'll have to get that documented. Is the point of no return linked to the bosses like Will and the Maggot Mother, or related to the new areas? If so, I might skip Markus Wallster fight on a repeat playthrough...
@@NostalgicBlondeDude the main bosses like thr elder fishman etc so yes and dont grind on the lunatic area
@@nosoydes9916 Hm, that too? I'll take your word for it.
why is there a baked fishman on your save files
...Why _not?_
In all seriousness though, have 3 cigarettes on hand and refer to this vid.
th-cam.com/video/cDdiseVCID4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=NeFEV9wLp2Uw5L6R
how do you get the lighter again
After getting Imp into your party, just go to Ben and Percy/the garbage traders and you can get it for free on Alex's account.
@@NostalgicBlondeDude
Awesome thanks man
@@Beltboy Happy to help.
Is this actually playable now?
Barely? It crashes all the time for me, even leaving it on for a few minutes in the middle of a fight, just makes it crash. Also couldn't do the Imp route as it always crashes after the balloon cutscene. Georgy route does work tho. I've completed a 2nd fold route on agony mode and it isn't something I recommend playing, as the constant crashes make the game annoying to play.
@@dyna1828 that sucks, but when they smooth it over it will be decent. But it would definitely lack the point of the original.
It is playable lol there's a lotttt of content. Couple of bugs but they shouldn't affect your gameplay
@@scriggle3564hopefully those bugs get patched out soon enough
I mean I don't mind really, I'm still on a holiday
@@scriggle3564 It's a cool mod, but the problem aren't the small bugs and misspellings, those are to be expected when you do a project like this, those I don't mind. On the other hand the crashes are a big deal, for example, couldn't do the garbage humping quest as whenever I did the last hump, the game would freeze, locking me out of a lot of content. I was playing on agony mode and you can imagine how I felt when I lost like half an hour of progress because of a random crash. (And that's one of my twenty or so crashes!). It's a really fun mod, the new party members, events, enemies and even some bugs like the sprite of Otto (the guy from bureau) being used instead of Cannabi's in a cutscene ,when I had killed Otto earlier, were pretty great. Maybe my copy of the game is cursed hahaha.