Competition winner - David Cowan - sprautos@gmail.com really common job this guys, if you own this engine you may of had this done, if you haven't there is a good chance you may in its ownership so will give everyone an insight to the job. Although this video makes it look very easy this is actually an 8 hour job! Hope you enjoy all the best everyone.For those asking this job with the turbo was about £2K
I had this job done a couple of weeks ago (leak was just a slight weep though) - it was picked up at a routine service. Turbo was OK. 167k on the clock. Hopefully it’s going to last a long time now! Great video, by the way - liked & subscribed 😀
Hi, great, first video I have found with the same surging, I seem to have this fault, is there a way to check the turbo itself to garentee it is at fault? I have the surge I have the pressure code and no eml. I must say though it is intermittent, doesn't do it every time you floor it, 50% maybe but it only happens on full send accel
@@mikejennings7779 you should have an exhaust back presure sensor, i would change turbo, back presusure sensor, and inlet motoro in one hit to cover a few common faults at once.
Did this job at home with help from a couple of friends after being quoted £2,000 by my Mercedes Dealership. It's a BIG job, one whole day to take everything apart and another day to put it all back together. I'm not scared of this engine anymore! Mercedes GL350 X166 - 2013
Hey arkadaşım ben de evde kendim yapmak istiyorum,zaten birçok şeyi kendim hallederim,örneğin yağ değişimi,filtre değişimi,kızdırma bujisi değişimi gibi..Umarım ben de hallederim.Arabam mercedes ml350 w166 bluetech.👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
This is one of the best engines Mercedes made after 2000 . I've had it in many vehicles including jeeps . As long as you keep it up with preventive maintenance and change the oil every 8000 km it runs and runs and runs ... as long as you're not scared to do some stuff yourself , it's not really expensive . Love it , recomend , 5 stars , 10 out of 10 .
@@MoesKeckeEcke Because he's parroting internet stories. The v6 is more sensitive to bad maintenance compared to the older i6, that's true, but that's about it. It's only issues are with the oil cooler and the flaps getting stuck, but the flaps can be cancelled with a resistor and the oil cooler can be kept an eye on. I've seen fleets of sprinters with this engine, all around 650-800k km and still running. Some oil leak here and there, but still ran strong. 1 went over 1 mil km before being finally retired, but not because the engine was bad, but because the truck bed and inside the cabin was getting really worn out.
@@MoesKeckeEcke It just has a few design flaws - blue emissions fluid chief among them - and lacks the durability and reliability of the old Daimler diesels.
Like somebody said. It's like watching "Open Heart Surgery" ! Gives one a real appreciation of having the specialist mechanic do this type of intricate work.
That was very interesting. And you're the first garage I've seen that uses a procedure manual built from experience with the parts included to make sure nothing is missed from the job. It must make a great training tool also. I'm surprised more garages don't use this. 11k views from 7k+ subscribers means there's a lot of sharing and recommending being done. A sure sign of a quality channel !
It's like watching open heart surgery! The complexity of these things is fascinating, and if anything it's a wonder there aren't more common issues, gives you respect for the engineering involved and also how important a specialist is when it comes to cars like this. Also, the W211 is one of my favourite cars, from a time where comfort was king. Big luxury barge of a car :) Was in Cyprus recently and 90% of all the Taxis there are W211. Taxi driver wanted me to go into business with him importing them from the UK 😂
Ive watched thousands of videos on TH-cam. But I have not ever seen one as honest and thorough as this one. "Saving the customer thousands", .....lol.....That does not happen these days! I live in the United States and have a 2009 E-320 Bluetech that I love and have had no issues with at all. But I am retired and live on a fixed budget. Im trying to service my vehicle myself when I can. So I appreciate you taking the time to make this video. It helps more people than you realize. I would never attempt a repair of this magnitude but it showed me the warning signs, and whats to be expected if it happens. Thanks again for taking the time to make the video and being honest......Take care.... (New subscriber also) Prost!
I'm glad I've got my W204 with the OM646 which seems to be bit more bulletproof than the OM642. Would regular oil and filter changes help with the OM642 or are these just inherent fualts?
Late arrival, I just finished this job on my new to me 06 ML320 cdi. The job itself can be fiddly, but it's all the cleaning that takes time. It was n good experience though. Thanks SPR for sharing vid like this making it possible for a guy like me to keep my ML on the road.
In my first visit to this channel I made a comment about Sam’s presentation skills. I take it all back having watched many more of these excellent videos. Much better and more authentic than Wheeler Dealers. Well done Sam. ( retired MV lecturer)😊
On the 8:02 minute when you replacing the old intake manifold damper links it is important to check if the manifold flaps have position sensors and if they do, the aluminum replacement needs to have additional steel pieces on the sides, similar to original plastic, to trigger the sensor when the flap is at max and min positions.
When I done mine I removed the intake swirl flaps from manifolds with pliers and for turbo only the actuator I changed to the corect G227 I think code, purple gaskets are made of viton which should last longer ,not hard job but long time and yes change all gaskets clean all carbon and should be ok. Good video.
2 other common issues I have found over the years is the PCV on the back left head faiils which allows the oil to travel down the pipe and into the "Y" pipe and then out of the large orange seal. The turbo ends up being changed thinking it's leaking oil when infact it's the PCV thats failed instead. The other one is the large green O ring in the inter cooler pipe at the top of the engine. It's either missing or not giving a proper seal.
Amazing! How tightly packed are all those components! If that was me, I would be looking for those washers and nuts that are making a bid for freedom. When I was 21, I tried cleaning and rebuilding a Stromberg carburettor on my Hillman Imp, without realising I had lost a washer down the inlet manifold - expensive mistake! Respect to you and your team!
The other " while your there" job to do is replace the O ring on the EGR cooler plumbing where it pushes into the inlet manifold. (7.10)The other end of the cooler from the flange. I had to do this whole job because that O ring failed and leaked coolant at a huge rate. Within a couple of days of first seeing a leak under the car the engine wouldn`t hold any coolant. This was an OM642 in a Jeep with only 140k on the clock. Good excuse to do the Oil cooler seals before they leaked so no big mess in the engine valley to clean up.
It's a systemic fault. The friggin o ring! Used everywhere in automotive today, designed to fail. The sheer amount of work caused by this feature is mind blowing.
I so like your channel. Just, what I did to my 648 straight 6 cdi was removing the flaps altogether. The whole system is just to vulnerable. Oh, also disconnecting the egr. Life is good. But I’m living in Texas. Probably not possible in the UK. I feel so sorry for all the regulations you have to deal with. And just to get some more oomph I had my ecu remapped by Renntech. You got to love these diesels. Pretty rare in the USA.
@@sprautos i see, that's a shame. you with the attention to quality work and method of explaining would make great such DIY videos. But more videos like the one you already did (the 52min) doesnt that count as DIY?
As a precaution you can place a piece of thin rubber under the plastic intake pipe, then if leaks occur the oil will exit down the outside of the turbo not leaking into the swirlmotor thru its connector. Also use the revised black rubber skal on plastic inlet.
Great video, only just discovered your channel, now I’m addicted. Came across it as I have this exact problem, including the kangarooing when accelerating. Unfortunately for me you’re along way away. Really good to see your expertise.
I did all these jobs. my self. yes a biiiggg job. but the turbo is still running more than 90 000 km.. even when that turboproblem shows. but a restart and it all good for weeks...sometimes mnd. just love that strong engine. and love the torque.
I have the early stages of this issue on my ML350. I live down south but think I'll make the trip north just to have it looked after by someone who knows what they are doing!
I had a c350 cdi (276) before my C63 , both w204's , it was a great car , really pulled well , had to change the thermostat though at around 75K , they seemed quite common for failing great content , really being enjoying it - thankyou
After discovering your channel and watching the videos i will definitely drive my Merc from Leeds to this garage to get it serviced. Great job guys keep it up.
I believe that from 2010, Mercedes started factory-fitting the new upgraded (purple) oil cooler seals to all new OM642 engines, so you should actually be ok. At least with the oil cooler problem described here!
Great idea that Sam about putting all the particular job bits in a folder. Presumably you restock after every job? 👍👍👍 I too do many jobs on Rover 75's which the owners don't even know about , we find many faults which they were not even aware of ⚠️ They will only thank you when they have not been let down by the car 5 years later 😅
Yes we replace as we go. Haha we do all sorts don’t we that go unnoticed. But it’s a nice feeling for us when it’s back together knowing we have done what we can to make it the best we can.
Very informative, i really like your attention to detail top notch. I like your aluminium linkage upgrade for the swirl flaps and inlet motor replacement, i would not get the same attention to detail at my local Mercedes specialist. Great work!
Great video, only one I have seen which details the job and is uk based 👍 I had the EGR mapped out on my s211 om642, kangorooing went away, replaced actuator and exhaust back pressure sensor prior to that.
So glad my Merc mech advised me to avoid these engines and the v6 petrols. I’ve got a R129 SL320 straight 6. He told me to avoid the V12 as it would cripple me financially. Wish I’d bought the R129 SL72
M112 v6 petrol was a tank. 272 was ok. Yes I’m not a v12 fan either. Sl 72 is something very special though. R129 with a m113 v8 is the best combo in my opinion
Very informative video, we have a C350 AMG estate with the V6 engine which needs stripping down 😕 so looking to sell it on as now have a replacement car, wish we lived closer to you as would love to see it on your channel!
A very strong engine, I had a 320 and now a 350, fortunately never had the oil leak issue (Yet), but the 320 did have the swirl flap issue! Lovely to see Sam and John doing the job properly. Most garages would likely only tie the flaps open and make do. I speak from experience! Keep doing what you do, and as you do SPR. See you in March. 👍🏻👍🏻
I have the same engine in my 2012 w204 and I believe it needs the valve stem seals replaced, how much extra would it cost, and do the heads need to come off to get to the valve stem seals. Thanks for the great video.
An oil catch can circuit between CCV & turbo inlet would reduce substantially amount of oil that cascades down into valley from batwing turbo inlet seal. In my opinion, that is true source of most car om642's oil leaks. It soaks swirl flap motor, splashes all over turbo pedestal & then pools around oil cooler before draining through that weep hole in valley near bell housing. These issues don't really exist on 642s from Sprinters because they have a much better air intake system & larger oil pan that can accept 5 more quarts of oil. Every time I see another om642 oil leak video, I thank my lucky stars that I still have an om648 w211 on the road.
I have a 2011 e350 with latest om642 engine 265hp. 250'000km and I changed only the thermostat I think the latest iteration I have is much more robust, with all these problems solved. But now at 260000km, I start to have some oil drops...oil cooler probably 😅 Will do it next holidays
Another excellent video, wondering now when my e350 cdi with 124k miles on will need that job doing😊 all was good when recenly b serviced my my local independent merc guys.
I am in Texas USA and on the subject of the OM642, it would be great to hear your comments on the Bluetec Settlement. I know that MB had to settle in the UK and Europe so I'm sure you're familiar with this. Thanks!
This vid gave me flashbacks of when I did the cooler seals on my R class. It was fortunate that I did it during furlough as it took me a couple of weeks (a lot of that was waiting for parts though). I found the previous owner had done the resistor mod to delete the swirl flap motor. I took the opportunity to reinstate the flaps with a new motor and an aluminium rod kit. The previous owner had also fitted a chineseium actuator to the turbo but I ordered a genuine refurbed one from the states. One little mod I added was I added a shroud made from an old drinks can to cover the swirl flap motor as even though I was replacing the turbo inlet seal, I have only ever known them to leak. The shroud is shaped to guide any oil that drips down behind the flap motor and into the V. I'd be curious to know if you have a definite fix for the red seal leaking?
At first, I thought that you were going to be working on a failed radiator/trans oil cooler which was what put paid to my E211 270 transmission - good old Valeo rads! Enjoyed this one though!
@@sprautos The only time that I have ever traded in a car knowing that it had a fault - to the dealer that sold it to me 18 months earlier. That 2003 E class was the most unreliable car that I have owned!
I have all the faults you’ve covered on my ml320, I had the oil cooler done a year and a half ago, at over a £1000 , but it would appear that my mechanic stitched me up it is now leaking water and a bit of oil not as much oil as before, so it’s lying in my driveway now doing nothing , being a pensioner I can’t afford to get it done again, I also had a new turbo fitted 4 years ago and the car started the kangaroo bit when I accelerated hard, but again couldn’t get anyone to diagnose the problem at the time, 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️ but thanks for your video very informative cheers 🙏👍👍👍
Cut my teeth on these in the early 2010's....did sooo many exhaust manifolds on the 642 for metal pieces coming apart and mashing the turbo...That and the 272 balance shaft tear wearing off, Good old Crank/CAM correlation. I miss my days at a Mercedes dealer, Now I'm meddling with Audi...😂
Watching this makes me so glad I drive a car with the OM648, ok I have the SBC pump to worry about but these Vee config Diesels and not only Merc one's either are utter crap.
Pure professionals. I am thinking of buying a 2013 CLS shooting brake 3l Cdi with 130k mile on her. Very well serviced with the cooler gaskets already done apparently. Just wondering would this need to be done again down the road, is this issue a design fault regardless of how well its serviced. Are these engines very reliable generally if serviced well. Cheers for the video guys it was a pleasure to watch.
What does a turbo replacement run to? I have the bucking issue you showed in the vid. At much lower revs though. Have fired the parts canon at it, well everything except a turbo.
Hi, just find your video, very nice and clean work. I own a W211 E320 with this engine, and i have que same problem as shown at 1:25 but at 1900 to 2200rpm and sometimes only above 3300rpm. Its not always present, for exemple if i reset the computer i have no problem for about 100km... The flap motor is brand new but not the plastic parts on the inlet manifold, but the flaps moves well. The EGR is new as its pressure sensor. No fault exept the exaust back pressure sensor. After watching your video i think that my problem is with the turbo but i am not sure, and this part is very expensive (3250€ here) so... Do anyone had the same problem as me ? Do you think it could be the turbo ? Im struggling with this for month now, seen 3 mercedes dealers about it and they didn't fixed it at all (but sure took my money)
sounds like a turbo fault for sure, and also with you have a back pressure sensor fault which is a good indicator, for a cheaper fix you could replace the turbo actuator on its own, part numbers are very specific on those things so you have to be carful. good luck.
W212 350CDi after 500000km in first to last "malfunction" 1. front spring 2. oil cooler 3. rear subframe 4. knob for infosystem 5. rear shocks 6. thermostat 7. end links 8. steering column electronic key lock 9. rear subframe bushings .. Rest : standard maintenance!
Great video, I have learnt a lot, I spend too much time watching your videos! At what mileage do you usually see these parts fail? I got a CLS 219 with the OM642 at 73k miles. Would it be worth doing the jobs in the video as a prevention at some point or just wait till one of them fails and do the whole lot? Thanks.
I had an E320 straight 6 from new, put 200k miles on it without a single issue. Then I had TWO of these W211 V6 CDI's. They both had Oil leaks, Swirl Flaps. EGR Valves, DPF Filters, Turbo Actuator and eventually both turbos all replaced on these absolute shit boxes. Genuinely wouldn't take another one of these for free.
I have this issue on my ML280cdi (OM642) I had the back pressure sensor fault, my dad who's an ex mechanic thought he'd sorted it. He's 74 bless him, if I'd known this earlier I wouldn't have had him do what he did to try and solve it. I'll be booking it in here and getting it sorted 😢wasted around £200 on parts as it's started again with the kangaroo hops 😩
Well it won’t all be a waste as if he has replaced the back pressure sensor we would have recommend that also anyway. Good on him for Giving it a go. And it caught me out the first time also.
My car got the maff sensor and boost sensor and intake sensor and circuit fault… but Mechanic said I need new manifolds is that true or is it just the repair kit and motor?
modern cars have so many issues designs are poor from seals and wet timing belts to timing chain guides so so poor the modern customer is forced to go to garages and with so many ECU requiring restting once a componet is replaced but the big boys thrive on this
Questions out the box. Can fabric a oil cooler out sited. And fuel filter out side. ? Love to know possible. For everyone. God bless 👍 Mick Australia 🇦🇺
Very informative video well done! This engine was part of so many merc models and variations. Why do you think they went back to straight 6 ones? Is it just cost to make?
I’m really not sure, I’m Presuming it was emissions related, the v6 cdi was a nice smooth torquey engine. I wonder why they move on from many engines at times 😂🙈
Great work guys! Any chance of getting a list of parts /gaskets /orings like you have the magic folder listed here ? W211 owner with OM642 (225000miles ) perfect running condition never had the issue above but trying to stay in top of things always:)
Great video! Do you have the parts list for the UK at all guys? The one you have listed is US and the site does not show the W164 ML280 CDI on their list. TIA 😊
Competition winner - David Cowan - sprautos@gmail.com
really common job this guys, if you own this engine you may of had this done, if you haven't there is a good chance you may in its ownership so will give everyone an insight to the job. Although this video makes it look very easy this is actually an 8 hour job! Hope you enjoy all the best everyone.For those asking this job with the turbo was about £2K
I had this job done a couple of weeks ago (leak was just a slight weep though) - it was picked up at a routine service. Turbo was OK. 167k on the clock. Hopefully it’s going to last a long time now! Great video, by the way - liked & subscribed 😀
Hi, great, first video I have found with the same surging, I seem to have this fault, is there a way to check the turbo itself to garentee it is at fault?
I have the surge I have the pressure code and no eml.
I must say though it is intermittent, doesn't do it every time you floor it, 50% maybe but it only happens on full send accel
@@mikejennings7779 you should have an exhaust back presure sensor, i would change turbo, back presusure sensor, and inlet motoro in one hit to cover a few common faults at once.
Did mercedes resolve this issue re the oil cooler seals and if yes when? Thinking about my 2012 R Class
@@BarrySims-w7pI’m looking at a 2011 - 2013 R Class right now, any good?
Did this job at home with help from a couple of friends after being quoted £2,000 by my Mercedes Dealership.
It's a BIG job, one whole day to take everything apart and another day to put it all back together.
I'm not scared of this engine anymore!
Mercedes GL350 X166 - 2013
Well done charlie! The GL is one of
The hardest ones Aswel with access, well done buddy all the best
How much do you charge?@sprautos
Hey arkadaşım ben de evde kendim yapmak istiyorum,zaten birçok şeyi kendim hallederim,örneğin yağ değişimi,filtre değişimi,kızdırma bujisi değişimi gibi..Umarım ben de hallederim.Arabam mercedes ml350 w166 bluetech.👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
This is one of the best engines Mercedes made after 2000 . I've had it in many vehicles including jeeps . As long as you keep it up with preventive maintenance and change the oil every 8000 km it runs and runs and runs ... as long as you're not scared to do some stuff yourself , it's not really expensive . Love it , recomend , 5 stars , 10 out of 10 .
No way. The Inline 6 CDI was the last great Mercedes-Benz diesel. The V6 diesels suck.
@@closer71 why is the V6 the bad engine? because it is compact inside some cars or what? The inline 6 did have some issues right?
@@MoesKeckeEcke Because he's parroting internet stories. The v6 is more sensitive to bad maintenance compared to the older i6, that's true, but that's about it. It's only issues are with the oil cooler and the flaps getting stuck, but the flaps can be cancelled with a resistor and the oil cooler can be kept an eye on. I've seen fleets of sprinters with this engine, all around 650-800k km and still running. Some oil leak here and there, but still ran strong. 1 went over 1 mil km before being finally retired, but not because the engine was bad, but because the truck bed and inside the cabin was getting really worn out.
@@em4703 No. it’s because I own two. An OM617 and the 2005 CDI. Smart ass. The V6 is a piece of shyt.
@@MoesKeckeEcke It just has a few design flaws - blue emissions fluid chief among them - and lacks the durability and reliability of the old Daimler diesels.
It’s very refreshing to see people who no what they are doing I wish you were near to me.
Like somebody said. It's like watching "Open Heart Surgery" ! Gives one a real appreciation of having the specialist mechanic do this type of intricate work.
Seeing a proper specialist, and honest, mechanic work is amazing!!! Most would cut corners unfortunately... Keep up the good work
Thanks 👍
Hats off to the owner for bringing it to you and keeping this lovely car on the road.
That was very interesting. And you're the first garage I've seen that uses a procedure manual built from experience with the parts included to make sure nothing is missed from the job. It must make a great training tool also. I'm surprised more garages don't use this. 11k views from 7k+ subscribers means there's a lot of sharing and recommending being done. A sure sign of a quality channel !
Thank you very much! Hopefully we will keep growing.
It's like watching open heart surgery! The complexity of these things is fascinating, and if anything it's a wonder there aren't more common issues, gives you respect for the engineering involved and also how important a specialist is when it comes to cars like this.
Also, the W211 is one of my favourite cars, from a time where comfort was king. Big luxury barge of a car :) Was in Cyprus recently and 90% of all the Taxis there are W211. Taxi driver wanted me to go into business with him importing them from the UK 😂
Nice to see an OM642 💪🏼
More to come!
I have an OM642 in my C207. But I really miss the sound of the OM648 from my old W211.
@@martynm.449 older engines just had more character
@@G20Details is that your CLS? Beautiful.
@@martynm.449 yes it is thank you very much, this car actually goes to SPR for most of its work
Ive watched thousands of videos on TH-cam. But I have not ever seen one as honest and thorough as this one. "Saving the customer thousands", .....lol.....That does not happen these days! I live in the United States and have a 2009 E-320 Bluetech that I love and have had no issues with at all. But I am retired and live on a fixed budget. Im trying to service my vehicle myself when I can. So I appreciate you taking the time to make this video. It helps more people than you realize. I would never attempt a repair of this magnitude but it showed me the warning signs, and whats to be expected if it happens. Thanks again for taking the time to make the video and being honest......Take care.... (New subscriber also) Prost!
Thank you very much, really nice of you to say.
All the best and thanks for the sub 🙏
We need more professional shops like these in our lives.
Quality lads & the reason I will never take my Mercedes anywhere else!
Your attention to detail is first class. Glad I decided to buy a boring 2.1 4 cylinder C class now!
Great little work horse and mpg
@@sprautos C220 CDI. As a petrol head, the dpf thing makes me nervous. Hopefully it won't develop any issues.
You will be fine, premium fuel now and again. Treat it to a JLM diesel extreme clean once a year.
I'm glad I've got my W204 with the OM646 which seems to be bit more bulletproof than the OM642. Would regular oil and filter changes help with the OM642 or are these just inherent fualts?
@@sprautosthanks for the advice. Much appreciated.
Late arrival, I just finished this job on my new to me 06 ML320 cdi. The job itself can be fiddly, but it's all the cleaning that takes time. It was n good experience though. Thanks SPR for sharing vid like this making it possible for a guy like me to keep my ML on the road.
You’ve done well there buddy, the ML isn’t an easy task it’s a back breaker! The cleaning takes hours doesn’t it.
Well done 👍
In my first visit to this channel I made a comment about Sam’s presentation skills. I take it all back having watched many more of these excellent videos. Much better and more authentic than Wheeler Dealers. Well done Sam. ( retired MV lecturer)😊
I will take that, cheers 🍻
I can only improve. You’ve lots to catch up on.
On the 8:02 minute when you replacing the old intake manifold damper links it is important to check if the manifold flaps have position sensors and if they do, the aluminum replacement needs to have additional steel pieces on the sides, similar to original plastic, to trigger the sensor when the flap is at max and min positions.
When I done mine I removed the intake swirl flaps from manifolds with pliers and for turbo only the actuator I changed to the corect G227 I think code, purple gaskets are made of viton which should last longer ,not hard job but long time and yes change all gaskets clean all carbon and should be ok. Good video.
2 other common issues I have found over the years is the PCV on the back left head faiils which allows the oil to travel down the pipe and into the "Y" pipe and then out of the large orange seal. The turbo ends up being changed thinking it's leaking oil when infact it's the PCV thats failed instead. The other one is the large green O ring in the inter cooler pipe at the top of the engine. It's either missing or not giving a proper seal.
an the big red seal that is on the Y to the turbo snail.. also usually a seal that gets hard or unsealed...
not too bad this engine
superb stuff... i have the exact same problem with my w211 e280 cdi. its only done 49,000 kms.
Amazing! How tightly packed are all those components! If that was me, I would be looking for those washers and nuts that are making a bid for freedom. When I was 21, I tried cleaning and rebuilding a Stromberg carburettor on my Hillman Imp, without realising I had lost a washer down the inlet manifold - expensive mistake! Respect to you and your team!
Why buy a diesel car they are most unreal able cars and everybody with anykind of brain knows did .petrol cars the way to go.
The other " while your there" job to do is replace the O ring on the EGR cooler plumbing where it pushes into the inlet manifold. (7.10)The other end of the cooler from the flange. I had to do this whole job because that O ring failed and leaked coolant at a huge rate. Within a couple of days of first seeing a leak under the car the engine wouldn`t hold any coolant. This was an OM642 in a Jeep with only 140k on the clock. Good excuse to do the Oil cooler seals before they leaked so no big mess in the engine valley to clean up.
It's a systemic fault.
The friggin o ring! Used everywhere in automotive today, designed to fail.
The sheer amount of work caused by this feature is mind blowing.
I so like your channel. Just, what I did to my 648 straight 6 cdi was removing the flaps altogether. The whole system is just to vulnerable. Oh, also disconnecting the egr. Life is good. But I’m living in Texas. Probably not possible in the UK. I feel so sorry for all the regulations you have to deal with. And just to get some more oomph I had my ecu remapped by Renntech. You got to love these diesels. Pretty rare in the USA.
That stright 6 cdi was a beast
Please please make some DIY videos for us OM642 owners of the most common problems. Thank you for this video, so informative and entertaining!
I don’t think we will ever do diy videos I don’t have the time to do step by step 🙏
@@sprautos i see, that's a shame. you with the attention to quality work and method of explaining would make great such DIY videos. But more videos like the one you already did (the 52min) doesnt that count as DIY?
As a precaution you can place a piece of thin rubber under the plastic intake pipe, then if leaks occur the oil will exit down the outside of the turbo not leaking into the swirlmotor thru its connector. Also use the revised black rubber skal on plastic inlet.
I just sold my 2012 W251 R350 Bluetec and I past your video to the new owner. Thank you for your great video!
Nice job. Now I’m glad I have the OM648 inline 6. :) On that I have replaced the heat exchanger seal in half an hour.
Great video, only just discovered your channel, now I’m addicted. Came across it as I have this exact problem, including the kangarooing when accelerating. Unfortunately for me you’re along way away. Really good to see your expertise.
I did all these jobs. my self. yes a biiiggg job. but the turbo is still running more than 90 000 km.. even when that turboproblem shows. but a restart and it all good for weeks...sometimes mnd. just love that strong engine. and love the torque.
I have the early stages of this issue on my ML350. I live down south but think I'll make the trip north just to have it looked after by someone who knows what they are doing!
What a star !! Saved me 2 grand !!!! We can eat this month thanks for this super tip !
I had a c350 cdi (276) before my C63 , both w204's , it was a great car , really pulled well , had to change the thermostat though at around 75K , they seemed quite common for failing
great content , really being enjoying it - thankyou
Great informative videos always keep it up mate u are getting better n better by the day
You are a professional person at what u do
Thanks, will do!
What a great video guys, my 221 is going to get the same treatment shortly. Nice tidy setup and professional.
After discovering your channel and watching the videos i will definitely drive my Merc from Leeds to this garage to get it serviced. Great job guys keep it up.
Well done guys. Mine 2011 350 CDI CLS have done 83000 miles and I believe at one point, I will have the same problem.
I believe that from 2010, Mercedes started factory-fitting the new upgraded (purple) oil cooler seals to all new OM642 engines, so you should actually be ok. At least with the oil cooler problem described here!
I sold tonnes of these 642 intake port shut off motor bits when I worked for MB dealer, it eye opening to see how they fit to the car
Great idea that Sam about putting all the particular job bits in a folder.
Presumably you restock after every job? 👍👍👍
I too do many jobs on Rover 75's which the owners don't even know about , we find many faults which they were not even aware of ⚠️
They will only thank you when they have not been let down by the car 5 years later 😅
Yes we replace as we go.
Haha we do all sorts don’t we that go unnoticed. But it’s a nice feeling for us when it’s back together knowing we have done what we can to make it the best we can.
Very informative, i really like your attention to detail top notch. I like your aluminium linkage upgrade for the swirl flaps and inlet motor replacement, i would not get the same attention to detail at my local Mercedes specialist. Great work!
Great video, only one I have seen which details the job and is uk based 👍 I had the EGR mapped out on my s211 om642, kangorooing went away, replaced actuator and exhaust back pressure sensor prior to that.
Excellent Job & Very Professional Gentleman !
Great videos, find myself watching them even though I don’t have a Mercedes 😅
You don’t need one to be part of our channel buddy. Welcome 🙏
Great Job,and forward thinking for sure
Looks like the owner has neglected a lot of regular maintenance
All the best cheers Frank
Great video, as always. Very interesting and informative. Keep them coming.
Just done mine and some in house flaps delete, enjoyed the video, thanks.
What’s the pros of deleting the swirl flaps?
@@johnscott-collett2813i am wondering the same
Goodness, I have this repair ahead in my 2011 W212...
Love your content, keep up the great work!
Real masters of their craft -😎 great to see
So glad my Merc mech advised me to avoid these engines and the v6 petrols. I’ve got a R129 SL320 straight 6. He told me to avoid the V12 as it would cripple me financially. Wish I’d bought the R129 SL72
M112 v6 petrol was a tank. 272 was ok. Yes I’m not a v12 fan either. Sl 72 is something very special though. R129 with a m113 v8 is the best combo in my opinion
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My straight 6 Petrol has been bomb proof as half of V12 used in many other cars.
Very informative video, we have a C350 AMG estate with the V6 engine which needs stripping down 😕 so looking to sell it on as now have a replacement car, wish we lived closer to you as would love to see it on your channel!
What's the issue with it, and what year? Looking for a 350 estate but want a face-lift model.
Cam chain we think, it’s a 2013, 62 plate
New subscriber, due to the High Peak link
Glad i found you , like the straightforward ,understandable commentaries,
Thank you
Welcome aboard! And thank you. 🙏
Great stuff, this video has been really helpful as my grand Cherokee has the Mercedes 3.0 v6 OM642. 👍
Glad it helped
A very strong engine, I had a 320 and now a 350, fortunately never had the oil leak issue (Yet), but the 320 did have the swirl flap issue!
Lovely to see Sam and John doing the job properly. Most garages would likely only tie the flaps open and make do.
I speak from experience!
Keep doing what you do, and as you do SPR.
See you in March.
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I think you should explain to the customers what you do and why you do it, like in this video.
They’ll appreciate you more for it.
Some do. Some don’t 😂 we try.
im so glad channel found it in australia,your customers must be so happy ,what a bout a branch workshop in sydney australia ,we need one.
Great video guys, it would be nice to know a rough costing for this type of job since it’s a popular fault. Gives us a heads up so to speak😂😂
This job would cost you £1500 without the turbo, more towards 2.5k with a new turbo.
I have the same engine in my 2012 w204 and I believe it needs the valve stem seals replaced, how much extra would it cost, and do the heads need to come off to get to the valve stem seals. Thanks for the great video.
big thanks for the link, ill go buy them and change everything on my glk 320. thannnnnnnks a lot.
An oil catch can circuit between CCV & turbo inlet would reduce substantially amount of oil that cascades down into valley from batwing turbo inlet seal. In my opinion, that is true source of most car om642's oil leaks. It soaks swirl flap motor, splashes all over turbo pedestal & then pools around oil cooler before draining through that weep hole in valley near bell housing. These issues don't really exist on 642s from Sprinters because they have a much better air intake system & larger oil pan that can accept 5 more quarts of oil. Every time I see another om642 oil leak video, I thank my lucky stars that I still have an om648 w211 on the road.
Awesome! Love the details covered.
Glad you enjoyed it
Great information. Very professional
I have a 2011 e350 with latest om642 engine 265hp.
250'000km and I changed only the thermostat
I think the latest iteration I have is much more robust, with all these problems solved.
But now at 260000km, I start to have some oil drops...oil cooler probably 😅
Will do it next holidays
Another excellent video, wondering now when my e350 cdi with 124k miles on will need that job doing😊 all was good when recenly b serviced my my local independent merc guys.
Great video and a Really interesting watch
Very good video. Liked it! Also nice that you answered all the questions here! 👍
I try my best to I don’t know how much longer I can keep it up though 😂🙏
RE the swirl flap rod, great when you get one over on the Manufacturer who won’t just sell the part you need but the whole assembly 😀
Haha it is good your right. You get a nice feeling knowing you’ve saved a good few quid
I'm actually in a market for an 06' E320 CDI with an OM648. I would never consider this one what so ever, unless you don't care about your money:)
Great Video. Wish you were in Melb Australia to take care of my C32 AMG.
Cheers and looking forward to your channel.
C32 rare underrated car. I don’t know about over there but here there cheap as chips
Use heavy oil on om 642. Use 10w60 , or 15w40 weight oil minimum and you’ll be very happy with this engine. It’s after several engine seized.
I am in Texas USA and on the subject of the OM642, it would be great to hear your comments on the Bluetec Settlement. I know that MB had to settle in the UK and Europe so I'm sure you're familiar with this. Thanks!
This vid gave me flashbacks of when I did the cooler seals on my R class. It was fortunate that I did it during furlough as it took me a couple of weeks (a lot of that was waiting for parts though). I found the previous owner had done the resistor mod to delete the swirl flap motor. I took the opportunity to reinstate the flaps with a new motor and an aluminium rod kit. The previous owner had also fitted a chineseium actuator to the turbo but I ordered a genuine refurbed one from the states.
One little mod I added was I added a shroud made from an old drinks can to cover the swirl flap motor as even though I was replacing the turbo inlet seal, I have only ever known them to leak. The shroud is shaped to guide any oil that drips down behind the flap motor and into the V. I'd be curious to know if you have a definite fix for the red seal leaking?
Well done, there not easy on an r class, it’s probably the hardest one along side a Vito. So well done, plus you’ve addressed loads of other issues.
Will be taking my GLB to you guys for servicing soon
Great job, very interesting
At first, I thought that you were going to be working on a failed radiator/trans oil cooler which was what put paid to my E211 270 transmission - good old Valeo rads! Enjoyed this one though!
Yea used to do a few of those back in the early 211 days. Think I still have the test kit to test the trans fluid
@@sprautos The only time that I have ever traded in a car knowing that it had a fault - to the dealer that sold it to me 18 months earlier. That 2003 E class was the most unreliable car that I have owned!
Nice job guys
I have all the faults you’ve covered on my ml320, I had the oil cooler done a year and a half ago, at over a £1000 , but it would appear that my mechanic stitched me up it is now leaking water and a bit of oil not as much oil as before, so it’s lying in my driveway now doing nothing , being a pensioner I can’t afford to get it done again, I also had a new turbo fitted 4 years ago and the car started the kangaroo bit when I accelerated hard, but again couldn’t get anyone to diagnose the problem at the time, 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️ but thanks for your video very informative cheers 🙏👍👍👍
Put Xado stop leak on radiator, it will help avoid oil and water mixture.
Nice work bud
Cut my teeth on these in the early 2010's....did sooo many exhaust manifolds on the 642 for metal pieces coming apart and mashing the turbo...That and the 272 balance shaft tear wearing off, Good old Crank/CAM correlation. I miss my days at a Mercedes dealer, Now I'm meddling with Audi...😂
Great informative video
Beware: genius at work.
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Top work yet again 💪🏻
Legend!
wow, excellent job !!! may I ask where do you get the flap bars/kits ?
Watching this makes me so glad I drive a car with the OM648, ok I have the SBC pump to worry about but these Vee config Diesels and not only Merc one's either are utter crap.
Pure professionals. I am thinking of buying a 2013 CLS shooting brake 3l Cdi with 130k mile on her. Very well serviced with the cooler gaskets already done apparently. Just wondering would this need to be done again down the road, is this issue a design fault regardless of how well its serviced. Are these engines very reliable generally if serviced well. Cheers for the video guys it was a pleasure to watch.
They have changed the seals, so time will tell
If it will need doing again down the road, it will be interesting to see.
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Just like I had. (Turbo fault CLK CDi)
Regards from Jase, best wishes to you all.
Exactly the same car and same issue on my 320cdi. But my chap had no clue and fixed the Gearbox (
What does a turbo replacement run to? I have the bucking issue you showed in the vid. At much lower revs though. Have fired the parts canon at it, well everything except a turbo.
My problem that the Mercedes workshop suspects should be the one you show at minute 12:03.
you thing if they install a catch can, it will stop all that oil in the intake and going into the turbo?
Hi, just find your video, very nice and clean work. I own a W211 E320 with this engine, and i have que same problem as shown at 1:25 but at 1900 to 2200rpm and sometimes only above 3300rpm. Its not always present, for exemple if i reset the computer i have no problem for about 100km...
The flap motor is brand new but not the plastic parts on the inlet manifold, but the flaps moves well.
The EGR is new as its pressure sensor. No fault exept the exaust back pressure sensor.
After watching your video i think that my problem is with the turbo but i am not sure, and this part is very expensive (3250€ here) so...
Do anyone had the same problem as me ? Do you think it could be the turbo ?
Im struggling with this for month now, seen 3 mercedes dealers about it and they didn't fixed it at all (but sure took my money)
sounds like a turbo fault for sure, and also with you have a back pressure sensor fault which is a good indicator, for a cheaper fix you could replace the turbo actuator on its own, part numbers are very specific on those things so you have to be carful. good luck.
W212 350CDi after 500000km in first to last "malfunction"
1. front spring 2. oil cooler 3. rear subframe 4. knob for infosystem 5. rear shocks 6. thermostat 7. end links 8. steering column electronic key lock 9. rear subframe bushings ..
Rest : standard maintenance!
Great video, I have learnt a lot, I spend too much time watching your videos! At what mileage do you usually see these parts fail? I got a CLS 219 with the OM642 at 73k miles. Would it be worth doing the jobs in the video as a prevention at some point or just wait till one of them fails and do the whole lot? Thanks.
I had an E320 straight 6 from new, put 200k miles on it without a single issue. Then I had TWO of these W211 V6 CDI's. They both had Oil leaks, Swirl Flaps. EGR Valves, DPF Filters, Turbo Actuator and eventually both turbos all replaced on these absolute shit boxes. Genuinely wouldn't take another one of these for free.
I have this issue on my ML280cdi (OM642) I had the back pressure sensor fault, my dad who's an ex mechanic thought he'd sorted it. He's 74 bless him, if I'd known this earlier I wouldn't have had him do what he did to try and solve it. I'll be booking it in here and getting it sorted 😢wasted around £200 on parts as it's started again with the kangaroo hops 😩
Well it won’t all be a waste as if he has replaced the back pressure sensor we would have recommend that also anyway. Good on him for Giving it a go. And it caught me out the first time also.
My car got the maff sensor and boost sensor and intake sensor and circuit fault… but Mechanic said I need new manifolds is that true or is it just the repair kit and motor?
modern cars have so many issues designs are poor from seals and wet timing belts to timing chain guides so so poor the modern customer is forced to go to garages and with so many ECU requiring restting once a componet is replaced but the big boys thrive on this
Great video but I hate the double click technique on the torque wrench.
Questions out the box. Can fabric a oil cooler out sited. And fuel filter out side. ? Love to know possible. For everyone. God bless 👍
Mick Australia 🇦🇺
Very informative video well done! This engine was part of so many merc models and variations. Why do you think they went back to straight 6 ones? Is it just cost to make?
I’m really not sure, I’m
Presuming it was emissions related, the v6 cdi was a nice smooth torquey engine.
I wonder why they move on from many engines at times 😂🙈
Great work guys! Any chance of getting a list of parts /gaskets /orings like you have the magic folder listed here ? W211 owner with OM642 (225000miles ) perfect running condition never had the issue above but trying to stay in top of things always:)
The list is to long 😂 if you search the web there are lists knocking about
Great video! Do you have the parts list for the UK at all guys? The one you have listed is US and the site does not show the W164 ML280 CDI on their list. TIA 😊