Thank you so much for posting this how to....We have a raw piece of land with no existing well, and no reasonable way to get the amount of water needed to jet pipe it in. We've been waiting months for a well guy to come out and do it but the trails to our property are so rough right now that its not even reasonable for them to get out there...we have been floating the idea of just doing ourselves by hand but weren't really sure where to start. Video was very informative. It will be hard work but we now feel confident we can do this ourselves!
Once you hit the water table, when drilling, you stop drilling and put in your casing, and then you use a flapper type bailer to sink the casing deeper. The bailer removes the sand, and this allows for the pipe to sink deeper as you pull the sand out and dump it out and repeat this dropping in and pulling out until the pipe is to the desired depth. Then, put 12 inches of pea gravel into the pipe to keep the sand out.
It was killing me watching you drive that pipe. In Florida, we use water to jet the pipe in. Much easier to do because of the sand. You can use a pressure washer with a clean out tip and it will go in like butter. There are several TH-cam videos that show the process. You did give me an idea on my next well. Thank you for taking the time to publish these videos.
We also use a auger post hole digger for the first 20 to 25 feet until we hit the wet sand then start with the driver. We use very heavy 2 man drivers. They weigh about 80 pounds.
We sold the property and decided to start enjoying the debt free RV life. At some point I may buy a piece of mountain property outside of North Carolina and build a cabin set up for off grid with some cool projects.
@@rezzer7918 we are in Greenbrier County, WV now. Grew up in Clendenin and Farmed in Jackson County and Putnam county until we moved to the beach. 5 years was all I could handle. Had to come home to the mountains.
Not yet, we sold the property along the coast so we will be putting in new gardens, running a well and setting up drip irrigation this coming spring. This winter we will be posting video of us converting an abandoned church into our new home
Actually when the water table is in the pipe determines that. I have put 80 feet of pipe in ground and water table went up to 30 feet in well pipe. Standard pump worked fine.
@@glennwest4438 Is the 80’ made up of 30’ vertical and 50’ horizontal? 50+30 =80 but 30 is approximately 25 so the regular pipe worked is how I interpret your numbers. Am I right? If not, help me out. Thx.
We actually tried but that white sand was wet in the bottom and almost created so much suction we didn’t get the magnet back... the pipe wrench didn’t come with it.
An electric jackhammer attached to a post driver works well. Local rental companies rent them. Not too cheap but time is money so it works out in the long run.
We have found that if you keep your driving cap tight when driving it won't get ruined threads; Pound fewer pounds and check and tighten the cap between pounds and you won't ruin the threads on the pipe or the driver cap. It takes longer but keeps the parts working like they should work without wrecking them. also it gives the pounder a little rest.
Also always turn the pipe clockwise with a pipe wrench to keep it loosened up every time you cease pounding and tightening the fittings downs below ....CLOCKWISE. if you turn the pipe the other direction it will loosen your joints.
I think Id find a jack hammer n weld on a flat piece of steel verses your post hole driver I saw someoine else do it n it drove it into the ground very quickly.n N if you ever need to move or drill another your all set.
It's definitely hard super work we are doing one ourselves at this present time we uploaded video footage to remind us how much work we had to go through to get water on our land you made a cool video 🙏❤️🙏
Why don't all you people commenting just not say anything and let him show you how he is drilling this well you people are all authorizes on this and have probably never did any work
You have to retighten the fittings every 50 hits. We use these wells (use to, condemned now) for years around the lower Great Lakes. It’s basically Lake water, we’ll filtered through sand. Keep tightening those fitting, if you don’t you get what you got.
You should have used your tractor bucket (full of dirt for best results) as the post pounder. Just be careful to line things up perfect first. You wouldn't have bent your pipe or wrecked the red top smasher piece as you did by pounding at an angle. Trust me when I say, I've done this more than a few times easily with great success.
We ended up selling the property and moving to the mountains in West Virginia. We bought an old church up here and are converting into our home. New adventures.
Where can I buy a stainless steel Sandpoint every one I've found is stainless steel on the point tne screens but the main barrel is steel and our water eats the steel and it collapses them you need to drive a new one every 5 to eight years mine is starting to fail and I want to use one that's all stainless steel as the old owner kept the old one and the cast-iron point female coupler and stainless steel screen were intact but the black iron pipe was totally eaten away even galvanized pipe was OK
bummer it would have been so much easyer on you ....well the good thing is if you ever do another well be much much easyer ...you can used 3 trees with a racket strap at the top next time cut them 12 long best wishes
Hook a pump up to your pipe, and pressure wash that point down into the hole.......or use a pressure jet on the end of the pipe to make your hole and run your casing after
Why don't you use pressure washer to drill, the pressure washer hoses extend to about 50 feet go into center of drill pipe, after that just turn on pressure washerand water, no driving force need, the pipe go down on it own.
Use the pressure washer to drill the hole. And use the trash pump to pull out the water and mud. Put the casing in in five foot sections. I've used a pressure washer to drill fence posts.
pro tip: add lead to the post driver, i stuffed 70lbs of lead into the driver and took a roofing propane torch to melt it all into solid block inside of it, the added weight is a god send. I tried this method of making a well and my location has that white silky clay which instantly clogged the sand point, i had to do a 3in pvc casing.
Used an auger to get to 29 feet in loam/sand, hole kept collapsing, We used a high cfm air compressor to get ours from 25 feet to 30 feet, air lifted within our casing, after which pumped like hell with submersible to keep advancing our screen and casing to 40 feet...bad thing is screen was clogged with fine sand with a 1/2 hp submersible could pump 35 gpm for 30 seconds the sucked dry, i tried air pressuring the casing, dropping a weight in it, kept getting more fines out but could not improve yield. I pulled the casing and screen and it caved in to 26 feet, ours is all loam with fine sand at a stand still at the moment. Thank you for your videos donno if i'll try a sand point next or put larger holes in casing.
Believe me, we tried, but pushing wouldn’t budge it, slowly pounding is the only way. An expensive drill rig would work, but this well is on the cheap 😁
your problem wow 3 tres and no go first of all the sand is caving in on you then you try to drive a sand point in a 4 inch hole with a post driver guess what the pipe flexes and bows when you hit it on the trop there is no support for the pipe to stop that and you lose a lot of force being absorbed by the bending and it loosens and damages your joints along with bending i have been there drive it from the inside right on the sand point how? use a oil well drill stem inserted into the 1 1/4 pipe just lift it and drop it
The water is fine, plenty to water the gardens and lawn. We’ve sold the place and moved away from the coast. We are now living in the mountains. We got water with each well type.
You'd have to rig up water to wash down, and really you'd have to circulate it on a pit, but adding gel to the water will carry that sand up. Prly wouldn't be worth it if you only have a little ways to go. Good luck.
Actuallly things changed dramatically in our life, we ended up selling the property along the coast and moving back to West Virginia. Part 3 was planned but with the changes it just wasn’t possible.
Thank you so much for posting this how to....We have a raw piece of land with no existing well, and no reasonable way to get the amount of water needed to jet pipe it in. We've been waiting months for a well guy to come out and do it but the trails to our property are so rough right now that its not even reasonable for them to get out there...we have been floating the idea of just doing ourselves by hand but weren't really sure where to start. Video was very informative. It will be hard work but we now feel confident we can do this ourselves!
I would try to use the tractor bucket to push down on the well pipe.
I have a Mahrinda Tractor too like that and thats exactly what i would do but id us my excavator bucket first!! More drop!!
Bend
THANKS TO SHOW US HOW TO DO IT. WAITING FOR PART 3. I’M PLANNING TO MAKE WATER WELL ON MY BACKYARD . I LIKE THE WAY YOU DO IT. THANKS AGAIN.
I TOO ENJOY MAKING WATER!!!
@@karlhungusjr1 used
Once you hit the water table, when drilling, you stop drilling and put in your casing, and then you use a flapper type bailer to sink the casing deeper. The bailer removes the sand, and this allows for the pipe to sink deeper as you pull the sand out and dump it out and repeat this dropping in and pulling out until the pipe is to the desired depth. Then, put 12 inches of pea gravel into the pipe to keep the sand out.
Hello...Did you ever finish up installing this well?
It was killing me watching you drive that pipe. In Florida, we use water to jet the pipe in. Much easier to do because of the sand. You can use a pressure washer with a clean out tip and it will go in like butter. There are several TH-cam videos that show the process. You did give me an idea on my next well. Thank you for taking the time to publish these videos.
Can you send me the link on the process you speak of gator brotha.
@@nostalgicproductions I watched Apple Drains on you tube jet pressure wash drilling.Looked easier.
We also use a auger post hole digger for the first 20 to 25 feet until we hit the wet sand then start with the driver. We use very heavy 2 man drivers. They weigh about 80 pounds.
The grinder on the drive cap is brilliant ! Over the top informative, educational ! Thank you for this !
Ugh... Was hoping for Part 3. Hope you were able to finish the project.
We sold the property and decided to start enjoying the debt free RV life. At some point I may buy a piece of mountain property outside of North Carolina and build a cabin set up for off grid with some cool projects.
@@TangoRomeo87 Stay Safe and Enjoy!
@@TangoRomeo87👍or try WV Jefferson County Blue Ridge Mtn
@@rezzer7918 we are in Greenbrier County, WV now. Grew up in Clendenin and Farmed in Jackson County and Putnam county until we moved to the beach. 5 years was all I could handle. Had to come home to the mountains.
Have you came out with a video of your drip irrigation system for your garden. Was interested to see what that looked like. Thanks
Not yet, we sold the property along the coast so we will be putting in new gardens, running a well and setting up drip irrigation this coming spring. This winter we will be posting video of us converting an abandoned church into our new home
Hi there, would it be easier if you where to push down on the pipe with the tractor
Tried it, just stood the tractor up, I think the beating action is what makes it go down. Pushing just didn't work :-)
Nice and hard job , very informative appreciate.
New subscriber. I love your can do attitude. I'm here for the long haul and will celebrate with a beer when you get the water flowing.
Have you tried using the loader to push the point downward?
Why not use the tractor bucket to drive the Well in?
The 25 ft limit is based on atmospheric pressure. You have to go to a jet pump with higher pressure to raise water higher than 25 ft.
Actually when the water table is in the pipe determines that. I have put 80 feet of pipe in ground and water table went up to 30 feet in well pipe. Standard pump worked fine.
@@glennwest4438 Is the 80’ made up of 30’ vertical and 50’ horizontal? 50+30 =80 but 30 is approximately 25 so the regular pipe worked is how I interpret your numbers. Am I right? If not, help me out. Thx.
Use a strong fishing magnet to retrieve the pipe wrench...
We actually tried but that white sand was wet in the bottom and almost created so much suction we didn’t get the magnet back... the pipe wrench didn’t come with it.
@@TangoRomeo87 future fossil wrench
Could you use the tractor bucket to push down the pipe?
We tried, it just lifted the front end, the pipe goes down because of the impact of each hit, impossible to just shove.
An electric jackhammer attached to a post driver works well. Local rental companies rent them. Not too cheap but time is money so it works out in the long run.
Faster, easier and safer.
You could have used a fishing Magnet to fetch the wrench in fhe bottom of the first well
We tried that, I think it was sucked into the white sand and had too much suction to come loose.
We have found that if you keep your driving cap tight when driving it won't get ruined threads; Pound fewer pounds and check and tighten the cap between pounds and you won't ruin the threads on the pipe or the driver cap. It takes longer but keeps the parts working like they should work without wrecking them. also it gives the pounder a little rest.
Also always turn the pipe clockwise with a pipe wrench to keep it loosened up every time you cease pounding and tightening the fittings downs below ....CLOCKWISE. if you turn the pipe the other direction it will loosen your joints.
I think Id find a jack hammer n weld on a flat piece of steel verses your post hole driver I saw someoine else do it n it drove it into the ground very quickly.n N if you ever need to move or drill another your all set.
@TangoRomeo 87 Why can't I find part 1 of this video, any idea?
th-cam.com/video/RJKx2Dj39-w/w-d-xo.html
Where are you getting you house water, the water you use everyday for household use? Bathing, cooking, drinking, ect.
We sold that property, but now we are converting an abandoned church into a home and will be using a well for everything.
It's definitely hard super work we are doing one ourselves at this present time we uploaded video footage to remind us how much work we had to go through to get water on our land you made a cool video 🙏❤️🙏
I subscribed to your channel, it’s nice to find people as crazy as we are 😁
@@TangoRomeo87 Thank you so much we subscribe to you also 🙏❤️🙏
??? hello. I dont see a link for the 3rd and Final Well video :-)
Unfortunately we sold the property and moved back into the mountains of West Virginia.
Why don't all you people commenting just not say anything and let him show you how he is drilling this well you people are all authorizes on this and have probably never did any work
Amen Bob Walton guess they were never taught if you can’t be positive and nice just shut the hell up
Great video 👍
Glad you enjoyed it
You have to retighten the fittings every 50 hits. We use these wells (use to, condemned now) for years around the lower Great Lakes. It’s basically Lake water, we’ll filtered through sand. Keep tightening those fitting, if you don’t you get what you got.
Good advice, we did have to tighten frequently. Thanks for adding this as a comment.
Why would you not use the post hole digger to get you down as far as you can and then use the sand drive?
Whit this method of sand point. How do you know that you hit water?
The effort becomes much easier, like they have always said. You’ll know when you hit water.
@@TangoRomeo87 thank you I appreciate you answered me. I'm planning to try to dig a well soon. By hand to. So it help o lot
The short section of pipe is called a "saver sub" .
Great information, thanks!
My neighbor used his tractor bucket to drive the pipe.
Was you able to get the parts to finish your well?
Yes, it worked out well.
Drove like that but used a gas powered post driver and could have fished the pipe wrench with a magnetic
You should have used your tractor bucket (full of dirt for best results) as the post pounder. Just be careful to line things up perfect first. You wouldn't have bent your pipe or wrecked the red top smasher piece as you did by pounding at an angle. Trust me when I say, I've done this more than a few times easily with great success.
Did you finish pqrt 3?
We ended up selling the property and moving to the mountains in West Virginia. We bought an old church up here and are converting into our home. New adventures.
Where is part 3
Waiting seems to accumulate weight on the sides of the pipe. idk.
Where can I buy a stainless steel Sandpoint every one I've found is stainless steel on the point tne screens but the main barrel is steel and our water eats the steel and it collapses them you need to drive a new one every 5 to eight years mine is starting to fail and I want to use one that's all stainless steel as the old owner kept the old one and the cast-iron point female coupler and stainless steel screen were intact but the black iron pipe was totally eaten away even galvanized pipe was OK
OPPS `DIDNT CLEAN ALL THE CUTTING OIL OFF THE PIPE WITH SOAP AND WATER...YOU ALSO NEED A TRI POD WITH 10 POUND WEIGHT ON IT EASYER ON YOU
Lol, my neighbor kept saying he had the tripod, but he couldn’t remember who used it last!
bummer it would have been so much easyer on you ....well the good thing is if you ever do another well be much much easyer ...you can used 3 trees with a racket strap at the top next time cut them 12 long best wishes
Tractor bucket should push it in.
It didn’t, it just stood the tractor wheels off the ground, steady pounding is all that worked.
Been going on a year. No part 3?
Ran into some serious health issues and sold the property.
@@TangoRomeo87 I sure hate to hear that. I really hope things are better now.
@@the-papaw it’s getting better, just cut out som if the heavy stuff for a while, enjoying life
Hook a pump up to your pipe, and pressure wash that point down into the hole.......or use a pressure jet on the end of the pipe to make your hole and run your casing after
If you have a person put pipe wrench on pipe and turn clock wise as your u drive will keep couples tight and save threads and easier to drive
Need well rated pipe, standard scd 40 is too thin at the threads to hold up.
Where’s part 1 of the well drilling?
th-cam.com/video/RJKx2Dj39-w/w-d-xo.html
Building a skoolie... that's my specialty. I'm a bus/van builder. If you ever need help shoot me a line
Health issues ended the skoolie, we are now living debt free in an RV in the mountains of West Virginia full time.
A 250 lb lift capacity magnet would probably have removed that pipe wrench
That pipe wrench… became a real problem… lol
Is where is part 3
We sold the property and moved to the mountains…
was dissapointed you didn't finish your well video series. I can you see you don't start what you finish. Good luck
Actually, the property was sold. But I understand.
Two people can hand dig a 35 foot well in about 3 weeks by hand ,first 15 feet tough
Why don't you use pressure washer to drill, the pressure washer hoses extend to about 50 feet go into center of drill pipe, after that just turn on pressure washerand water, no driving force need, the pipe go down on it own.
There is a layer of wet sands at 18 feet that liquify if you add water and it won’t allow you to go further.
Use the pressure washer to drill the hole. And use the trash pump to pull out the water and mud. Put the casing in in five foot sections. I've used a pressure washer to drill fence posts.
pro tip: add lead to the post driver, i stuffed 70lbs of lead into the driver and took a roofing propane torch to melt it all into solid block inside of it, the added weight is a god send.
I tried this method of making a well and my location has that white silky clay which instantly clogged the sand point, i had to do a 3in pvc casing.
Need to use drive rated pipe.
use your tractor to push the pipe down.
Keep tightening the fittings every 50 hits or less.
Used an auger to get to 29 feet in loam/sand, hole kept collapsing, We used a high cfm air compressor to get ours from 25 feet to 30 feet, air lifted within our casing, after which pumped like hell with submersible to keep advancing our screen and casing to 40 feet...bad thing is screen was clogged with fine sand with a 1/2 hp submersible could pump 35 gpm for 30 seconds the sucked dry, i tried air pressuring the casing, dropping a weight in it, kept getting more fines out but could not improve yield. I pulled the casing and screen and it caved in to 26 feet, ours is all loam with fine sand at a stand still at the moment. Thank you for your videos donno if i'll try a sand point next or put larger holes in casing.
Use a auger attachment on tractor
Where do you live.
Why you don't use your tractor push it down the ground
Believe me, we tried, but pushing wouldn’t budge it, slowly pounding is the only way. An expensive drill rig would work, but this well is on the cheap 😁
God bless you
I live in florida
Work for me
😂😂🙏
your problem wow 3 tres and no go first of all the sand is caving in on you then you try to drive a sand point in a 4 inch hole with a post driver guess what the pipe flexes and bows when you hit it on the trop there is no support for the pipe to stop that and you lose a lot of force being absorbed by the bending and it loosens and damages your joints along with bending i have been there drive it from the inside right on the sand point how? use a oil well drill stem inserted into the 1 1/4 pipe just lift it and drop it
The water is fine, plenty to water the gardens and lawn. We’ve sold the place and moved away from the coast. We are now living in the mountains. We got water with each well type.
a pnuematic fence post driver
I beat mine in with the front bucket of my tractor..
should of used a fence post driver, sheesh!
You'd have to rig up water to wash down, and really you'd have to circulate it on a pit, but adding gel to the water will carry that sand up. Prly wouldn't be worth it if you only have a little ways to go. Good luck.
Some people use electric jack hammer
25 hits and tighten, 25 hits and tighten again, repeat, repeat, repeat.
its a great workout tho if you do it you'reself
You might want ear protection, Huh what did you say? EAR PRTECTION! Please face me so that I can read your lips!
Get a jack hammer
Use your tractor
Tractors are horrible well drilling machines, we did try to push the sand point with the tractor bucket but it was a no go.
Here in Kentucky we use a two man team of gophers.
Why always damn music
Did you really not make a part 3 and finish this. What a huge disappointment. Booooo UNSUBSCRIBING
Actuallly things changed dramatically in our life, we ended up selling the property along the coast and moving back to West Virginia. Part 3 was planned but with the changes it just wasn’t possible.
That pounding headache noise (music) drove me away and kept me from this video.
That is cool Sr. My God be with you
when it is done📖🎚🙏.