Warwick described Chad as being very kind, humble and meek. That’s how people described Chris Watts. Look at what these two men did to innocent children.
Agreed. If Chad truly believes he is a prophet it shouldn’t matter to him if he gets the death penalty. Why would a prophet be afraid of death? His current life is only one of his many lives. However, if he knows, in his heart of hearts, that he is a fraud he would fight the death penalty because he doesn’t know what’s behind that veil and in actuality, Chad Daybell, the human, is petrified of death and his subsequent judgment day.
They may well have lived on multiple planets, through countless lifetimes; they might have once had such powers back then, but the ego is always tempting toward the dark side.
It always amazes me how people describe someone as "meek and kind". While they murdered people. This tells us we just never know about someone and to keep our guard up at all times.
He was saying they were trying to get me to be confident in what they was saying, he struggles for what's the correct word but he's using the exact correct word. A con man is someone who makes you confident in the lies he's telling you. Dave is right on saying that they were trying to win his confidence. He was being conned.
The worst right now is Melonie s husband kissing Chad's hind end on stand Infront of the jury. Melonie thinks he has all the right answers yet here he says how humble Chad is humble and so on 🤮🤢
Pryor just could not get the answers he wanted from this man. He wanted to get Mr. Warwick to admit that he had "visions, just like Chad" and the poor guy, who is clearly confused, refused to substantiate Pryor's insistence. I applaud this man. Pryor really put him through the wringer and he tried to do his best while telling the truth, and he wouldn't let Pryor intimidate him into substantiating his defense strategy. I wish this judge was a bit more forceful in identifying and calling out procedural errors by the Defense. Pryor is a real piece of work. I have never seen an attorney get so "in your face" with a judge as he has. I would suggest that he's going to pay for that in the long run.
For Mr. Pryor to infer that David W may have been the person to murder JJ goes against David's testimony of asking Lori to see JJ and she said that JJ was with her Uncle, therefore Lori saw JJ last as David left then.
Easy to blame the "Mormon" church when you're outside of it. Narcissists like these two psycho's are so desperate for praise and adulation they'll use whatever resources they have to get it. In this case they twisted and even invented religious doctrine in order to elevate themselves above God Himself and used it to hide their true natures and real motives which came down to the two most common motivating factors behind any kind of corruption; money and power.
@@Terrye5588 Quite a few actually, Martin. MacNeill is another case, and and I've been wondering about the Idaho 4, and how many of them may have been LDS,as well as some of the officials in the town (moscow)..
Mr Warwicks testimony is revealing quite a bit but he's a litte annoying. Like wtf? He sounds about as slow as Chad is. Every single person (from this group) Chads group just seem so simple minded and believe anything. At least this guy stood up to chad
I caught the question about his marriage being a cover to avoid testimony. This man seems as fishy as the rest of them. None of the people in the Dumbbell's cult testifying against them are clean. Larry Woodcock said it best: No one stood up for these kids and they all knew what it meant to be called 'dark'.
@@MadgeGreenI agree, I seem to remember that his health isn't too good. Always good to be kind isn't it because you don't know what someone is going through
Warwick has bad hearing problems. He also had Chads number in that he testified that Chads was trying to con him. None of these people are attractive but Warwick isn’t as slow as he appears, he just has problems hearing things properly.
He can't string a sentence together and MG can't remember anything, or so she says. I think they are much more involved than letting on. 🤬 I all these people are bat shit crazy.
You know what scares the absolute hell out of me? There are still people out there that believe this crazy stuff! They still buy the books, they still believe! They walk among us! 🤦🏼♀️
Do all members of the LDS church claim to have visions, or is it only these special groups? I'm not trying to be facetious, I would just like to know. This stuff blows my mind.
The LDS Church believes people can have personal revelations, as well as being founded by Joseph Smith’s vision. Combined with a lot of mysterious hidden “truths” and a completely untrained clergy and teachers, it can create many sub-groups
no, they don't. These people were part of a fringe group having nothing to do with the actual beliefs of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latterday saints
I wouldn't say that, but I have met Saints who absolutely believe in the possibility of visions. They mostly attribute this to prophecy, meaning their belief in a one true living prophet, though I have also heard spiritual testimony from elders who held that they had visions. I was also told by Saints that they believe in paranormal activity (thought they didn't use that term) such as spirits, ghosts, angels, etc. They believe, but for the veil of between God and man, there are contacts (for lack of a better term) with the other side. Chad and Lori...and PAP, and whatever else groups there are, took some LDS beliefs to a more extreme level.
@@barbiemcallisterwell, tangential beliefs. They believed in the restored gospel and book of Mormon! They also believed in eternal progression and prophecy. it's definitely an LDS sect
Come on you gotta admit these events were several years ago, and it’s a confusing case with lots of players, and this guy is an older guy. No wonder he is having trouble with the facts. And Chad’s attorney is a butt head, as a juror that would irritate me!
She MURDERED almost her whole nuclear family for Chad and his CRAZY beliefs. If she ever admits it was all for nothing, she will not be able to live with herself. Her delusion is all she has left. She will, most likely, just find some sort of justification in Chad throwing her under the bus. Some sort of crazy religious justification.
I don't feel bad for her. I think it's hilarious. I get giddy Everytime I think about Lori begging her lawyers to leave Chad out of it only for him to turn around and blame her for all of it 😂😂 I hope shes feeling all of the pain those children felt TEN FOLD.
Chads looking despondent, he knows that after the other three witnesses and now this one, he's looking really bad to the jury. Not to mention his less than strong attorney.
These people are beyond bizarre. Did anyone ever work?!?! Chad is not a smart guy and told ridiculous stories that people believed. Unreal. Chads a monster.
Chads wife worked and supported the entire family, before he killed her. Lori’s husband Charles worked and supported the family, before she had him killed.
@@wolfgirl3081I never even thought of that maybe if these people had jobs they wouldn't have so much time on there hands for this craziness.whats the saying boredom is the devil's playground
I think Gibb was all in, until her name was given to police & she didn’t want to take the fall. David Warwick, I truly don’t think he was in on anything. He seemed skeptical of the whole thing, hence why Lori & Chad didn’t like him.
@@brandybiscoff9685 I'm with you, I don't think David bought any of this crap. Melanie is being scapegoated by Pryor. Lori tried to pull her in and I think she was prone to fall for this fantasy religious crap. However I don't think she part of any of these murderers.
The biggest flaw with all of this.. is that god gave us free will. The very act of Jesus dying on that cross gave us free will. Satan cannot take our bodies. Satan can’t possess innocent little kids. We have entirely free will over our physical and mental spirit, if the words of god are to be believed.
Not to mention his a fallen angel the very reason why is, is because he isn’t Equal to God nor does he have the same powers. Even Jesus who is God most beloved can only perform miracles through God not because he has those powers naturally. Satan can only put temptation in our way thats his purpose to corrupt us so we deny God he doesn’t need to nor does he have the power to possess our souls.
But God owns you and directs you, so you have no free will at all. Christian Terrorism is the same as all other right wing Religions and it's Fascism to use Religion to make laws like the GOP
I agree.yes,specific dates and an exact time can be hard to remember ,but these two just seemed to be deliberately trying to be obtuse.lots of "I don't know,I can't recall,I never learned about that" ,to the point they were incredibly ignorant of (her,mainly) of the Mormon faith,or they were just lying to cover their own behinds.
I have always found this guy's testimony to be very interesting. Clearly, Chad has his eyes on Warwick's money and was hoping to draw him into the group via coven witch Melanie. However, many people who own their own businesses, such as contractors, etc, are quite wary when it comes to be approached by con men. So Warwick used the excuse that he didn't share the same beliefs in order to politely distance himself from Chad. But I think he was skeeved out more about the money aspect than he was the belief systems. I get the impression that he uses his ill health as a shield to appear less knowledgeable than he really is. I think he perceived evil spirits in Chad and Lori, even if he doesn't come out and say so. He saw them for what they were, hence Chad taking a dislike to him later. Warwick seems traumatized, like someone who has come close to evil and has managed to evade it, but barely. Maybe he feels guilt about not helping the kids or Tammy or Charles in any way.
He's weak man.he definitely heard and knew something was up when he asked to see jj and she denied him he should of pushed them on it and called them out I wouldn't leave until I seen the kid
Oh boy... Pryor is not the right choice for this trial IMO... At around 53:00 he asked David about the "vibration" spiritual stuff Melanie talked about. Like he really thought this VERY classically Mormon guy was practicing that new age-y crystal-type stuff. 🤦♂️
@@megmeyer7563 I get what you're saying, but I still think it's evident Prior should have been way more informed on the subjects. Like, David wasn't really in on it though. He went to a few and didn't agree with it so he wouldn't have been included in any more secrets. Plus the firesides are still supposed to be a Mormon thing. Crystals and energy work and vibration and exorcism shit would be totally foreign to him. And Prior was straight up SURPRISED that David didn't know anything about it lol. He was so sure, when even I was cringing waiting for David to say No I have no idea what you're talking about lol
warwick isn't a classically mormon guy at all. he was in it up to his eyeballs with all the visions and energy work and all of this. visions of glory the cult takes ideas form mormonism and ideas from new agey type stuff and mixes it all together. he was at all of these fireside's, hosted podcasts, taught about his visions of war were coming true, he worked with chad. he worked with melanie G on this stuff. he may be a member of the church of the first born, he totally knows what the 7 gatherers is. Gibb and Warwick both perjured themselves and i think prior may be right that they got married so neither could testify against the other. it makes sense.
It would only be right that both of Chad's children be charged with perjury. However, I heard that it is highly unlikely that they will be charged because the prosecution would have to prove that they intended to lie and that they didn't accidentally tell falsehoods.
Don't you mean why "DO" they live separately? I don't think anyone knows except gibb and her husband. I can't think of a good reason why a husband and wife would choose to live separately They slept in separate rooms at Lori Vallows the night of the podcast also the night David is testifying about and also the last night JJ was seen alive.
They were not married the weekend in question at Lori's in Sept 2019. So they would not be sleeping together. I like David & I think 🤔 this whole thing makes him angry & I hear has effected his health. Melanie is another subject > I think she is manipulative just as bad as Lori. So there could be many things Melanie didn't tell David for many reasons. He was just being used, by all of them. Praying they leave this man alone, soon.
I think he was carrying JJ’s heavily drugged body upstairs. I don’t think he was actually dead yet. Based on the way they found JJ buried with the plastic bag taped around his poor little head, I think once he was heavily drugged & passed out, Alex came back & helped tape bag around his head to suffocate him 😭😭😭 and then prob carried him back down and out in the witching hours 😡
I think Alex carried a drugged JJ up stairs And then maybe carried him out again once Warwick and gibb went to bed . We know the cause of death. And the marks on JJs body.
Huh funny how none of these so called people who can see beyond the veil NO ONE seen the sad and horrific deaths of so many people oh not even Chad or Lori
Why is he asking so many question and other lawyer doesn’t object when he asks what Melanie G does, or speaks. Melanie was in court and prior should have asked her.
I agree. But I don’t think it damages his credibility too much where it counts, bc it’s not like his memory issues cause him to make up events… it seems like he remembers legit things with details,, but not always the proper dates, and needs more of a memory refresher sometimes than other people.
I think this guy and wife were getting coerced into this chads crazy ideas, and he was very hesitant to throw his fellow super great religious guy under the bus as well. Mormon guys are in the big club, and others are not, they stick together like crazy, even if they know the other guy is doing wrong, its a brotherhood.
Prior is acting like an email address is a full religion. Wth? Someone makes up a cute email address to share info with friends, and Prior is calling it a group, a religion. Why?? Why is he dwelling on that??
Prior isn't stupid. his client is. the 7 gatherers is significant. there's more info coming out about it from Megan Connor soon. Megan is Lori's cousin and has a channel, she shares some insights into the case from a family member perspective and she also does research into FOIA docs, etc.
The whole Salem witchhunt and collective psychosis and delusion comes to my mind!! 👈👈👈 Anyhow, he is a bad witness.. His answers were all over the place. Kinda weird. Melanie and her hubbie know more than they say.
@@frelnc I agree. Yet I think they both got pulled into the frenzy and delusion at first, just as is common with cults, and later realized what actually happened. They were manipulated and brainwashed.
Not only that but I think he knows something was up with JJ either from the nightmare or maybe he heard something When he was lightly sleeping he felt something was up@@joncrane7661
Prior is doing a pretty good job actually. Iv been working inside courtrooms for 20 years now, and he's definitely holding his own. Chad is going to jail, we all know that, but his counsel is doing a pretty good job of the dogs breakfast hes got to work woth. We may not like him, because hes Chad's lawyer, but he's a good lawyer.
@xyz12345457 if you you are talking about Mr Warwick bring shy and quiet so therefore we should not say anything about him. Just remember that Chad Daybell was quiet and shy and meek abd look what he ended up doing.
Cant believe this turned out to be Melonie husband. I expected for some reason he was some good looking stud. Im disappointed Meloni and he kisses Chads Arse like omg leave him for real.
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Warwick described Chad as being very kind, humble and meek. That’s how people described Chris Watts. Look at what these two men did to innocent children.
Omg u are right. Watts had that softness. Exactly
Someone that makes out that they are some kind of king that is going to lead, chose and gather people is very humble indeed.
Whoa! Good job, grasshopper!
EXACTLY!!!!!
Great observation!
Curious...if Chad has lived multiple lives on multiple planets..why is he afraid of the death penalty!
Here's a theory for you. Because he's a con man and he found the perfect con - money for nothing and kicks for free.
Ha ha, good point!
Agreed. If Chad truly believes he is a prophet it shouldn’t matter to him if he gets the death penalty. Why would a prophet be afraid of death? His current life is only one of his many lives. However, if he knows, in his heart of hearts, that he is a fraud he would fight the death penalty because he doesn’t know what’s behind that veil and in actuality, Chad Daybell, the human, is petrified of death and his subsequent judgment day.
@@RobbieJayOne I’m astonished he hasn’t made a portal and zoomed himself right out of Jail and into his paradise.
They may well have lived on multiple planets, through countless lifetimes; they might have once had such powers back then, but the ego is always tempting toward the dark side.
Killers, adulteress, liars, and cult never tell the truth . That is the reason why Chad is stoned face, no emotions / guilt.
All of them are guilty!!
Could also point to the fact that Chad's a psychopath.
It always amazes me how people describe someone as "meek and kind". While they murdered people. This tells us we just never know about someone and to keep our guard up at all times.
Prior doesn"t seem to understand how deceitful and obnoxious he appears to the jury. He's not doing his client any favors.
Prior had no defence.
So he had to attack the little things.
Hoping the big things would fall away.
Cutler was very obnoxious in Gotti's trial and that worked for him
The judge boyce is doing a great job
He was saying they were trying to get me to be confident in what they was saying, he struggles for what's the correct word but he's using the exact correct word. A con man is someone who makes you confident in the lies he's telling you. Dave is right on saying that they were trying to win his confidence. He was being conned.
I will keep saying this. All these grown ass adults believing in all this ridiculous shit makes me crazy
Strange, strange people meeting to talk about strange, strange beliefs.
They gathered to pray for people to Die!! 😡
Right ? 🤯 the shit ppl will believe just blows my mind….🤦🏻♀️
Yes and there are thousands more out there to a degree. For decades folks have been congregating in Provo Utah and rexburg Idaho for the end times
The worst right now is Melonie s husband kissing Chad's hind end on stand Infront of the jury. Melonie thinks he has all the right answers yet here he says how humble Chad is humble and so on 🤮🤢
Something in the water in Utay. The state of strange. Zombies my a-'- 😂
Pryor just could not get the answers he wanted from this man. He wanted to get Mr. Warwick to admit that he had "visions, just like Chad" and the poor guy, who is clearly confused, refused to substantiate Pryor's insistence. I applaud this man. Pryor really put him through the wringer and he tried to do his best while telling the truth, and he wouldn't let Pryor intimidate him into substantiating his defense strategy. I wish this judge was a bit more forceful in identifying and calling out procedural errors by the Defense. Pryor is a real piece of work. I have never seen an attorney get so "in your face" with a judge as he has. I would suggest that he's going to pay for that in the long run.
PRYOR IS A SUPER TAINT!
I guess you never seen Cutler In John gottis trial lol slam dunking paper work in the trash that man was a beast
For Mr. Pryor to infer that David W may have been the person to murder JJ goes against David's testimony of asking Lori to see JJ and she said that JJ was with her Uncle, therefore Lori saw JJ last as David left then.
Lori said that JJ was with her brother Alex.
Pryor makes me sick with his not so suttle attacks on every witness using the word "supposedly." He sounds like a broken record!
@@SmallWindow-BigViewhe just said that but just differently.he said jjs uncle not loris brother
He and Melanie are WAAAAAYYYY more influential in this case....they knew something !!
Very dangerous people.
These beliefs are bizarre.
Now we can see why his new wife Melanie Gibb doesn’t live in the same household
Mormon church has some strange characters coming out of it .
A LOT OF MURDERERS!! Jodi ARIAS comes to mind 1st!!
Easy to blame the "Mormon" church when you're outside of it.
Narcissists like these two psycho's are so desperate for praise and adulation they'll use whatever resources they have to get it. In this case they twisted and even invented religious doctrine in order to elevate themselves above God Himself and used it to hide their true natures and real motives which came down to the two most common motivating factors behind any kind of corruption; money and power.
@@Terrye5588 Exactly!
@@Terrye5588
Quite a few actually, Martin. MacNeill is another case, and and I've been wondering about the Idaho 4, and how many of them may have been LDS,as well as some of the officials in the town (moscow)..
@@Terrye5588and child abusers like Ruby Franke
Mr Warwicks testimony is revealing quite a bit but he's a litte annoying.
Like wtf? He sounds about as slow as Chad is. Every single person (from this group) Chads group just seem so simple minded and believe anything.
At least this guy stood up to chad
I can’t imagine listening to an hour long podcast with him speaking.
He didn't sound this bad at Lori's trial. He has deteriorated either due to health problems or perhaps it's stress related. I feel bad for him.
I caught the question about his marriage being a cover to avoid testimony. This man seems as fishy as the rest of them. None of the people in the Dumbbell's cult testifying against them are clean. Larry Woodcock said it best: No one stood up for these kids and they all knew what it meant to be called 'dark'.
@@MadgeGreenI agree, I seem to remember that his health isn't too good. Always good to be kind isn't it because you don't know what someone is going through
Warwick has bad hearing problems. He also had Chads number in that he testified that Chads was trying to con him. None of these people are attractive but Warwick isn’t as slow as he appears, he just has problems hearing things properly.
Like a wolf in sheep's clothing, "Chad's always been very kind, very meek."
I’m thinking Melody and husband were invited to her house for alibi.
I think that's beyond doubt.
Melanie* not that it matters much lol
And they innocently thought Alex was just putting JJ to bed.
I think theycwere all at the table like a colt that they are deciding about who is light and dark ,and zombie.
I think when he saw Alex holding jj to carry him to bed that jj was
most likely already dead .
Wow! Chad really was trying to form The Church Of Chad, by any means necessary! Too creepy!!
He can't string a sentence together and MG can't remember anything, or so she says. I think they are much more involved than letting on. 🤬
I all these people are bat shit crazy.
And I wonder what his nightmare was.
Oh you and me BOTH
It's my speculation that it wasn't a nightmare but sounds from JJ being unalived
@@AleciaHarrisstop the stupid baby talk.
Speak proper English.
Dead or murdered NOT unalive.
IMO, THE “ nightmare “ was discovering that JJ was being unalived. THEY BOTH KNEW!!!!!!!!!!
@@Twinkle_Toes88exactly
All of the bailiffs are doing a great job in the courtroom
What is it they're trying to get out of David Warwick? And why on earth is that poor guy married to Melanie Gibb? I guess I'm thinking outloud here.
I agree WTHeck !?! 😂
I was wondering the same.
Your thoughts can type too 😂
Sorry I couldn't help myself
The belief is that he and his wife were there the night JJ was murdered
Does David Warwick have dementia? Why is he having so much trouble remembering events that must have been very strong in his memory, otherwise.
You know what scares the absolute hell out of me? There are still people out there that believe this crazy stuff! They still buy the books, they still believe! They walk among us! 🤦🏼♀️
Do all members of the LDS church claim to have visions, or is it only these special groups? I'm not trying to be facetious, I would just like to know. This stuff blows my mind.
The LDS Church believes people can have personal revelations, as well as being founded by Joseph Smith’s vision. Combined with a lot of mysterious hidden “truths” and a completely untrained clergy and teachers, it can create many sub-groups
no, they don't. These people were part of a fringe group having nothing to do with the actual beliefs of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latterday saints
I wouldn't say that, but I have met Saints who absolutely believe in the possibility of visions. They mostly attribute this to prophecy, meaning their belief in a one true living prophet, though I have also heard spiritual testimony from elders who held that they had visions.
I was also told by Saints that they believe in paranormal activity (thought they didn't use that term) such as spirits, ghosts, angels, etc. They believe, but for the veil of between God and man, there are contacts (for lack of a better term) with the other side.
Chad and Lori...and PAP, and whatever else groups there are, took some LDS beliefs to a more extreme level.
@@barbiemcallisterwell, tangential beliefs. They believed in the restored gospel and book of Mormon! They also believed in eternal progression and prophecy. it's definitely an LDS sect
It used to be more common and accepted in the main church, but the church always changes.
A conference he was asked to speak at, how torturous listening to that voice let alone Chad's !
Uuuugggghhhhhhh, I’m from TX, this meek-man syndrome would not go well there. 🤠😮👍
😂😂😂
A lot of LDS leaders talk like this. I’m a “gentile” (aka non Mormon, that’s what they call us) living in Utah. Listening to them is exhausting.
Another whack job for the pack.
Box head Chad's latest book, will be titled: Are You There god it's me Chad....
Chad has no ideas so he tried to get this guy to help him write a book. These books have to be ridiculous.
lol
😂😂😂
God’s replies: Chad who?
Chad wanted a harem so, he started with Lori and then her family and then friends. All very pretty.
Come on you gotta admit these events were several years ago, and it’s a confusing case with lots of players, and this guy is an older guy. No wonder he is having trouble with the facts. And Chad’s attorney is a butt head, as a juror that would irritate me!
What's the status of Mr. Warwick"s life insurance?
I wish I knew if Lori knows they are throwing her under the bus and her thoughts.
Same.
The one time I feel bad for her. Chad used her
She MURDERED almost her whole nuclear family for Chad and his CRAZY beliefs. If she ever admits it was all for nothing, she will not be able to live with herself. Her delusion is all she has left. She will, most likely, just find some sort of justification in Chad throwing her under the bus. Some sort of crazy religious justification.
She probably doesn't care anything to save him from death row
I wouldn't be surprised anyway
I don't feel bad for her. I think it's hilarious. I get giddy Everytime I think about Lori begging her lawyers to leave Chad out of it only for him to turn around and blame her for all of it 😂😂 I hope shes feeling all of the pain those children felt TEN FOLD.
Appearing meek n humble doesn't preclude you from being a murderer
Jeffrey Dahmer, for example.
144 000 sure sounds like a logistical nightmare
😂😂😂
Oh i get it. They wanted his money.
He is not the sharpest tool in the shed
He's a general contractor so obviously you are incorrect😂😂😂
Chads looking despondent, he knows that after the other three witnesses and now this one, he's looking really bad to the jury.
Not to mention his less than strong attorney.
These people are beyond bizarre. Did anyone ever work?!?! Chad is not a smart guy and told ridiculous stories that people believed. Unreal. Chads a monster.
Chads wife worked and supported the entire family, before he killed her. Lori’s husband Charles worked and supported the family, before she had him killed.
@@wolfgirl3081I never even thought of that maybe if these people had jobs they wouldn't have so much time on there hands for this craziness.whats the saying boredom is the devil's playground
This is some crazy crazy stuff. David and Melanie are so weird and odd. They have to be more involved than they are letting on.
Melanie Gibb is guilty as hell. She needs to be charged
Do you think this is why they are separated ?
Cult people are like that. Religious crap.
I think Gibb was all in, until her name was given to police & she didn’t want to take the fall. David Warwick, I truly don’t think he was in on anything. He seemed skeptical of the whole thing, hence why Lori & Chad didn’t like him.
@@brandybiscoff9685 I'm with you, I don't think David bought any of this crap. Melanie is being scapegoated by Pryor. Lori tried to pull her in and I think she was prone to fall for this fantasy religious crap. However I don't think she part of any of these murderers.
I think Chad read too many comic books.
The biggest flaw with all of this.. is that god gave us free will. The very act of Jesus dying on that cross gave us free will. Satan cannot take our bodies. Satan can’t possess innocent little kids. We have entirely free will over our physical and mental spirit, if the words of god are to be believed.
Not to mention his a fallen angel the very reason why is, is because he isn’t Equal to God nor does he have the same powers. Even Jesus who is God most beloved can only perform miracles through God not because he has those powers naturally. Satan can only put temptation in our way thats his purpose to corrupt us so we deny God he doesn’t need to nor does he have the power to possess our souls.
But God owns you and directs you, so you have no free will at all. Christian Terrorism is the same as all other right wing Religions and it's Fascism to use Religion to make laws like the GOP
I think Chads plan was to build a structure over JJ and Tylee
We know Chad had tried to built a home on his property for him and Lori
Suspected to be over Tylee and JJ burial sites.
I like this guy. A down to earth sort of person who I could believe. Not so “out there” or a slick talker.
Chad's attorney is sooooo anoying!!!!
Defence is trying to prove he cant remember things so Jury cant believe him..
I fall asleep listening to this testimony and it usually works like a charm.
I think David and Melanie know lots more than they admit
I agree.yes,specific dates and an exact time can be hard to remember ,but these two just seemed to be deliberately trying to be obtuse.lots of "I don't know,I can't recall,I never learned about that" ,to the point they were incredibly ignorant of (her,mainly) of the Mormon faith,or they were just lying to cover their own behinds.
Pryor is a smart a**...
I have always found this guy's testimony to be very interesting. Clearly, Chad has his eyes on Warwick's money and was hoping to draw him into the group via coven witch Melanie. However, many people who own their own businesses, such as contractors, etc, are quite wary when it comes to be approached by con men. So Warwick used the excuse that he didn't share the same beliefs in order to politely distance himself from Chad. But I think he was skeeved out more about the money aspect than he was the belief systems. I get the impression that he uses his ill health as a shield to appear less knowledgeable than he really is. I think he perceived evil spirits in Chad and Lori, even if he doesn't come out and say so. He saw them for what they were, hence Chad taking a dislike to him later. Warwick seems traumatized, like someone who has come close to evil and has managed to evade it, but barely. Maybe he feels guilt about not helping the kids or Tammy or Charles in any way.
He's weak man.he definitely heard and knew something was up when he asked to see jj and she denied him he should of pushed them on it and called them out I wouldn't leave until I seen the kid
I hear Prior saying "ok alright " in my sleep 😂
They need to get Warwick off the stand. Who decided that putting Warwick on the stand was a good idea.
Right?? Agree this is bad
He is either stupid, lying or both!
He has been great and insightful... this is a serious court case... not an episode on Netflix.
Oh boy... Pryor is not the right choice for this trial IMO... At around 53:00 he asked David about the "vibration" spiritual stuff Melanie talked about. Like he really thought this VERY classically Mormon guy was practicing that new age-y crystal-type stuff. 🤦♂️
Well he was in on the secret meetings and fireside chats with both Melanie's. So he would have access ti this information
@@megmeyer7563 I get what you're saying, but I still think it's evident Prior should have been way more informed on the subjects. Like, David wasn't really in on it though. He went to a few and didn't agree with it so he wouldn't have been included in any more secrets. Plus the firesides are still supposed to be a Mormon thing. Crystals and energy work and vibration and exorcism shit would be totally foreign to him.
And Prior was straight up SURPRISED that David didn't know anything about it lol. He was so sure, when even I was cringing waiting for David to say No I have no idea what you're talking about lol
Like he assumed David had DONE this energy vibration work lmao. Not just heard about it secondhand
This is his first criminal trial. Just sayin'.
warwick isn't a classically mormon guy at all. he was in it up to his eyeballs with all the visions and energy work and all of this.
visions of glory the cult takes ideas form mormonism and ideas from new agey type stuff and mixes it all together.
he was at all of these fireside's, hosted podcasts, taught about his visions of war were coming true, he worked with chad. he worked with melanie G on this stuff. he may be a member of the church of the first born, he totally knows what the 7 gatherers is.
Gibb and Warwick both perjured themselves and i think prior may be right that they got married so neither could testify against the other. it makes sense.
I think they have rewritten the bible of how they understand it, very bizzare...
I don’t think I would allow David Warwick do any general contractor on my property
I don't think I would let him work on my worse enemies house
Re-watching some of the testimonies after the long awaited guilty verdict. I hope they go after Emma and Garth for perjury now
It would only be right that both of Chad's children be charged with perjury. However, I heard that it is highly unlikely that they will be charged because the prosecution would have to prove that they intended to lie and that they didn't accidentally tell falsehoods.
What happened to that earthquake in Utah?
Happen under hover dam
Anyone else find it finally odd that two newly married people don’t live together? Those two know more…
Not the brightest sparks David and Melanie...
Thanks!
Why don't melanie gibb and her husband live separately.
Don't you mean why "DO" they live separately?
I don't think anyone knows except gibb and her husband. I can't think of a good reason why a husband and wife would choose to live separately
They slept in separate rooms at Lori Vallows the night of the podcast also the night David is testifying about and also the last night JJ was seen alive.
Didn’t Melanie Gibb try to shoot Brandon, who was her niece’s husband or possibly ex?
You might need to review what Melanie said about where those two slept. My recollection is they did end up in the same room that Fri night.
@maxhill5197 yes that's right
They were not married the weekend in question at Lori's in Sept 2019. So they would not be sleeping together. I like David & I think 🤔 this whole thing makes him angry & I hear has effected his health. Melanie is another subject > I think she is manipulative just as bad as Lori. So there could be many things Melanie didn't tell David for many reasons. He was just being used, by all of them. Praying they leave this man alone, soon.
I thick Chucky is thinking of punishing the witnesses jn his manic mind.
Oh yeah he’s turning up the pain.
😂
Judge Boyce I’m sorry but Mr Prior needs help…. Bcuz he gets so angry he blacks out…. Not literally but he needs to be in a hospital setting…
This should be good.😮
Do you all believe that Alex was carrying JJ's 'lifeless' body upstairs?
I think he was carrying JJ’s heavily drugged body upstairs. I don’t think he was actually dead yet. Based on the way they found JJ buried with the plastic bag taped around his poor little head, I think once he was heavily drugged & passed out, Alex came back & helped tape bag around his head to suffocate him 😭😭😭 and then prob carried him back down and out in the witching hours 😡
I think Alex carried a drugged JJ up stairs
And then maybe carried him out again once Warwick and gibb went to bed .
We know the cause of death.
And the marks on JJs body.
@@brandybiscoff9685that's so creepy
And the point of this witness is?
He’s not a great witness…
This guy and MG I think know a lot more then they are saying
At least she sure does!
These folks are SO OFF from the mainstream teachings within the LDS doctrine.
Huh funny how none of these so called people who can see beyond the veil NO ONE seen the sad and horrific deaths of so many people oh not even Chad or Lori
Every one of you people involved is just as sick.
As Chad and Laurie and you should all be in jail
Yes him and Melanie knew something was up with JJ and I wouldn't of left until they showed me him
I’m skipping this because of his voice I will just get a review somewhere else
Why is he asking so many question and other lawyer doesn’t object when he asks what Melanie G does, or speaks. Melanie was in court and prior should have asked her.
He still believes 144,000 people need to be gathered... for WHAT?!?
The one 144,000.
1:19:50 Seems like Warwick has memory issues which compromise his testimony.
I agree. But I don’t think it damages his credibility too much where it counts, bc it’s not like his memory issues cause him to make up events… it seems like he remembers legit things with details,, but not always the proper dates, and needs more of a memory refresher sometimes than other people.
What does the seven gathers mean?
Listening to the witness speak is like watching paint dry. I’m sure he is a decent person that was being used by Lori and Chad.
Pretty sure the only reason Pryor keeps objecting is to disrupt the prosecutor's rhythm.
His knuckles are red as a beet
Very interesting.
I think this guy and wife were getting coerced into this chads crazy ideas, and he was very hesitant to throw his fellow super great religious guy under the bus as well. Mormon guys are in the big club, and others are not, they stick together like crazy, even if they know the other guy is doing wrong, its a brotherhood.
Yes, because it's all based on freemasonry.
Keep in mind the gramother has pics of JJ and this was his normal behavior due to his autism behaviors
Prior is acting like an email address is a full religion. Wth? Someone makes up a cute email address to share info with friends, and Prior is calling it a group, a religion. Why?? Why is he dwelling on that??
Prior is stupid if he expects anyone to remember an e-mail address from years ago - especially one that someone else devised.
Prior isn't stupid. his client is.
the 7 gatherers is significant. there's more info coming out about it from Megan Connor soon. Megan is Lori's cousin and has a channel, she shares some insights into the case from a family member perspective and she also does research into FOIA docs, etc.
This is a very bad man, and married to Melanie Gibb.
Don't be ridiculous.
The sate is doing very good
He is asking about vibrations, but it is actually called "Energy". A lot of Mormons do Reiki mixed with Mormonism.
Is Chad Dayblells attorney hired by the court or Chad Daybell himself?
Hired by Chad.
Damn the prosecutor is attempting to resurrect the witness David Alzheimer’s Warwick
The whole Salem witchhunt and collective psychosis and delusion comes to my mind!! 👈👈👈
Anyhow, he is a bad witness.. His answers were all over the place. Kinda weird. Melanie and her hubbie know more than they say.
It's possible, but did you hear her testimony? She was really torn up about Chad and Lori's perversion of her lifelong religion.
@@frelnc I agree. Yet I think they both got pulled into the frenzy and delusion at first, just as is common with cults, and later realized what actually happened. They were manipulated and brainwashed.
Damn is David Warwick absent minded
Omg how does this man run a successful contract business
Ok!
I cannot stand Melanie gibbs husband voice! it is too creepy and slow and gross sounding
He's a liar.
41:57 Why was this guy asking to see JJ when he’d made it clear earlier that there was minimal if any communication between himself and JJ?
Jj sometimes wouldn't speak...but he still tried to hang out with him. He also has a special needs child..so he felt familiar withhim.
Not only that but I think he knows something was up with JJ either from the nightmare or maybe he heard something When he was lightly sleeping he felt something was up@@joncrane7661
59:08 guys trying to help you out! Ĵeeze what a frgin psycho
25:20 lot's of people saying this 144 thousand? Can someone please explain ?
His testimony was painful. I don't know if it's nerves. But what the hell was he doing.
Pryor is both ignorant and arrogant.
Prior is doing a pretty good job actually. Iv been working inside courtrooms for 20 years now, and he's definitely holding his own. Chad is going to jail, we all know that, but his counsel is doing a pretty good job of the dogs breakfast hes got to work woth. We may not like him, because hes Chad's lawyer, but he's a good lawyer.
@@Mrs.AD0099that's good !
@xyz12345457 what quiet shy man are you referring to?
@xyz12345457 if you you are talking about Mr Warwick bring shy and quiet so therefore we should not say anything about him.
Just remember that Chad Daybell was quiet and shy and meek abd look what he ended up doing.
Chad DIGBELL is DIGGING his own grave not long to go now grave digger .
Cant believe this turned out to be Melonie husband. I expected for some reason he was some good looking stud. Im disappointed Meloni and he kisses Chads Arse like omg leave him for real.
Why would u think he would be a stud I didn't get them vibes at all.are u thinking of the other melanie not gibb
610?
Religious Beliefs or Opinions. Evidence of the beliefs or opinions of a witness on matters of religion is not admissible for the purpose of showing that by reason of their nature the witness' credibility is impaired or enhanced.
He's a bit of a wet lettuce 🥬
Chad is guilty but Prior is doing an excellent job.