It seems that when alot of people new to GA get a taste of what it's like they catch the bug. Quite hot here right now. Nice plane 👌 by the way. Thanks Rich
@@FlyingwithRich Well in most 1st world countries, most people can finance a $20K car. And a car can be considered a necessity esp in non-urban places. I guess my question is how much do you have to earn yearly to afford something this expensive that at best is a cool hobby (unless you are starting an airline)?
I have lots of customers who use aircraft for efficient business travel - fewer who consider it a “cool hobby.” As far as what you need to earn - really dependent on many factors, where you live, what other expenses you have, how you plan to pay for it, is it a business asset or personal use - the list goes on and on. An aircraft owner has to have income that is certainly in the higher income levels, but that can be said for a lot of things. I guess in my opinion, your question is too vague to answer.
@@FlyingwithRich I think I was interested on how one finances a plane. It's probably different than financing a car. On a $100K plane how and where does one finance that or do people pay cash? The fuel, airport storage, maintenance etc I understand. Is it like owning a $100K boat?
Matteo does a fantastic job with these videos. He's made a huge difference with your channel. There's no better channel than this one to learn more (and dream) about GA aircraft, avionics, and missions. He was a great hire, and you've got a great team at OCR Aviation.
The 310 is a very underrated airplane. It is over shadowed by the bigger Cessna twins and Barons, but the 310 is very good. It is a very smooth and easy to fly airplane, with awesome visibility. The 310 is very comfortable, it makes a great family sized cross country hauler. While the market on twin pistons is shrinking, the 310 is a great option as the 310s hold their value pretty well.
I'm a non-pilot, but if I were, and had my MEL, I'd do something like this. I saw Controller has a 2022 Cessna 172 for like $655,000. If it was my money, I'd get something older and well gone over. I see Rich has a lot of planes for less then $200,000 (a couple Mooneys, etc). Prices for new planes is out the roof right now.
Man I want to do that so bad just so I can title the video ‘310 to Yuma’. I just can’t abuse that title unless I actually do it! Stay tuned! One of my favorite movies!
Great video. I remember flying a 310Q back in 89 from SQL-RNO to the air races…6 on board and we climbed out quick…lots of power and great stable platform. This plane is a beauty. Tremendous avionics package.
Good job Matteo! I'm thinking of starting a youtube channel that is aviation related that isn't really being done yet. How could I contact you for some advice? Would be much appreciated. Thanks.
Like your flights better when you explain the procedures ahead. It makes us non pilots understand how much better. Enjoy all your videos,keep up the good work.
Nice work. Looking to upgrade my panel similar setup in a 340. Flew the STEX for a long time. If you hold down the autopilot disconnect for a few seconds that load beeping stops. Cheers!
Hey Rich, nice video. Isn’t great how those old 310s can carry on, even at 9500 hours on the airframe? The avionics upgrade really give them a new lease of life, and if the maintenance and any corrosion issues are kept on top of they’ll keep on trucking! The big question one has to ask though, is how much of a market is there for these old piston twins today? Most of the manufacturers seem to have lost faith in this class of aircraft, when compared to the proliferation back in the ‘60, ‘70 and ‘80s (with a few exceptions). Is it their operating cost, or just that high end singles can do so much these days, with similar proven safety margins? Over here in 🇬🇧 UK, operating costs are just killing us. I’m sure you think your Avgas prices in the States are crazy high right now, but for comparison the UK average is about £2.30 per litre = £10.44 per imperial gallon = £8.66 per US gallon = $10.75 PER US GALLON ……! So if your 310 is burning around 25 USG / hr we’re looking at $268 per hour, and that’s just in fuel costs. And if your tanks hold 140 USG, that makes it $1505 for a full load of avgas. Anyway, keep doing what you’re doing, and thanks for showing us Matteo and his filming skills. That’s a whole job in itself, especially the post production editing 👍
Yeah I agree most manufacturer’s have written off the piston twins - too bad such wonderful airplanes. Here in the US market seems strong for them right now - and yes if our fuel prices went to where your’s are the market would suffer. Thanks for the message and thanks for watching!
Sir just subscribed to your channel I work on the ramp at Heathrow and Ground handled B737 to B747 Since 2002 . Just got interested in your channel by Viewing on and off 😊
Rich, love your channel and watch it all the time. My question is this, with all the different airplanes you fly, how do you manage to stay current? Thanks.
Flying with Rich are the best Aviation videos! Thank you! I am not a pilot but I fly Microsoft Flight Simulator and have the Cessna 301R. Its amazing how close the software is to watching this video.
Rich there is a Cessna 320 that has been rotting over at Chino for the last 30 years. N48325. My dad owned it but his mechanic messed it up. I often wonder if I bought it if I Could fix it up. I have been an A&P for 30 years and I am a private pilot as well. Only thin is that I would have to get it to Kentucky
I think best to access it from a total time, complete logs, damage history point of view. Let’s say it has no damage, complete logs and low-mid airframe time. It would be definitely be worth bringing back to life. On the other hand if damaged, missing logs, high time -maybe not worth putting time/money into. Chino is close so if I can help, let me know.
Likely power would be pulled back so the aerodynamic impact of the engine out is minimal. However, if the pilot panics and executes a single engine go-around and adds full power and pitches up too abruptly - likely VMC roll.
From a professional photography standpoint, with regards to interiors, try a 360 camera between the pilot & co-pilot seats and the passenger compartment. This will make your listings pop!
Back in '79 I made that same flight from Compton to Catalina and back many times... looks like not much has changed except I'd bet the basin is even more crowded now..... my sight seeing run now is Whale watching low and slow along the Oregon Coast........... left in '99 and never looked back. Thanks Rich for the cool view .😊
@@FlyingwithRich 👍☑yea, heard they are flying comercial to the Miami Boat Show. If they had bought this from you could have done it in a little over 6 hours and had a whole lot more fun! Tks Rich
Awsome video, love how you fly over Santa Catalina Island on your videos! Don't forget to land once in a while, such a fun strip and Great restaurant, cool history, I had fun shooting the VOR into KAVX ,thanks Rich!
If I may, one constructive criticism. We don't see enough of the the cabin on these planes, the video itself and the explanation is more on the cockpit work, plane capability and sometimes exterior. If we can see the cabin space, how many people it fits and help visualize the experience for a potential buyer . It will help showing the wives of pilots where they will be lounging. As a real estate developer I learned early on that the wife buys the house.
Love the 310's. I was lucky enough to get my multi in a 65 J model. Later got CFI multi in a 78 310 R N4927A. This brings back great memories. Not a fan of touch screen Navigators. Being old school partial to original panel layout. Everybody's spoiled now. Keep up the good job of presenting these nice aircraft. You guys do it right
I sub to his page. Official word is Kevin and Jaime both work for the FAA in ATC, both are working tons of overtime, allegedly 6 day weeks. Kevin said they were too busy to keep the plane flying regularly, so he sold the hangar and the plane. Kevin really ghosted everyone, though, he had promised to finish the video from their last trip from 2021. Last video was posted in September, nearly 5 months ago.
@@davidfrench5407 yeahhh they dropped off like a rock and with all the ATC overtime I guess the TH-cam money wasn’t that big of a deal. They seemed to be pretty active so I hope they’re occupying their lives with the kids and some fun also. Towards the end I definitely sensed a change in both of them but growth is always good.
It seems that when alot of people new to GA get a taste of what it's like they catch the bug. Quite hot here right now. Nice plane 👌 by the way. Thanks Rich
Thank you!
I own a Q model. 310s are fantastic machines. Underrated in my opinion. Baron militants drown us out! LOL
I love them all!
Jason love your channel as well. Do you still fly out of KIWS? I would love to check out your plane one day if you are available.
In your opinion, would a 6'4" pilot be comfortable flying the 310r?
@@jameskeegan6804 I think so pretty big cockpit but stepping down into it would be the toughest part. Cool airplane!
@FlyingwithRich Thank you Sir!
How does one afford a $300K airplane?
Not sure how to answer that question? A lot of people around the world could ask the same question about a $20K car!
@@FlyingwithRich Well in most 1st world countries, most people can finance a $20K car. And a car can be considered a necessity esp in non-urban places. I guess my question is how much do you have to earn yearly to afford something this expensive that at best is a cool hobby (unless you are starting an airline)?
I have lots of customers who use aircraft for efficient business travel - fewer who consider it a “cool hobby.” As far as what you need to earn - really dependent on many factors, where you live, what other expenses you have, how you plan to pay for it, is it a business asset or personal use - the list goes on and on. An aircraft owner has to have income that is certainly in the higher income levels, but that can be said for a lot of things. I guess in my opinion, your question is too vague to answer.
@@FlyingwithRich I think I was interested on how one finances a plane. It's probably different than financing a car. On a $100K plane how and where does one finance that or do people pay cash? The fuel, airport storage, maintenance etc I understand. Is it like owning a $100K boat?
You can finance a plane with basic terms - 20% down, 15 year amortization. Rates similar to what you can get on a house. We work with several lenders.
Wouldn't buy anything with a modern S-tech in it. They are shit.
Not my experience.
Your in-cockpit video work is second to none. I especially like the way you edit videos to move them along without feeling like we missed something.
Matteo does a fantastic job with these videos. He's made a huge difference with your channel. There's no better channel than this one to learn more (and dream) about GA aircraft, avionics, and missions. He was a great hire, and you've got a great team at OCR Aviation.
Thanks - really appreciate that and Matteo has taken the videos to the next level!
The 310 is a very underrated airplane. It is over shadowed by the bigger Cessna twins and Barons, but the 310 is very good. It is a very smooth and easy to fly airplane, with awesome visibility. The 310 is very comfortable, it makes a great family sized cross country hauler. While the market on twin pistons is shrinking, the 310 is a great option as the 310s hold their value pretty well.
Thanks - I agree, very roomy and comfortable airplane!
I'm a non-pilot, but if I were, and had my MEL, I'd do something like this. I saw Controller has a 2022 Cessna 172 for like $655,000. If it was my money, I'd get something older and well gone over. I see Rich has a lot of planes for less then $200,000 (a couple Mooneys, etc). Prices for new planes is out the roof right now.
Yeah, prices are absolutely insane, they don't make sense to me. I'd go for an older plane as well
@@joellouisfire I know the G1000 is awesome to have, but I hear just it costs as much as an older aircraft.
Sky King flew a 310 on his TV show back in the late 50’s.
Rich, you say that you're a 'horrible editor...' but you are one helluva pilot. Thank you.
when talking piston twins are the 15 gallons per hour per engine or combined burn?
On the 310 it’s per engine. Thanks for watching!
Good Job Mateo. I do video recording/editing for a channel at CNO and it's a lot of work!
Thanks!
I have to ask. Have you ever taken the 310 to Yuma? 😎
Man I want to do that so bad just so I can title the video ‘310 to Yuma’. I just can’t abuse that title unless I actually do it! Stay tuned! One of my favorite movies!
@@FlyingwithRich Me too! One of the best westerns ever made! I’ll be watching! Fair winds my friend!
Nice job Matteo! keep up the good work.
Thank you!
you guys do a great job.....
Thank you!
Very nice airplane, and the video process is very interesting. We try to avoid the term "crash course" around aviation though. LOLOLOL 8) --gary
The Lear Jet of light twins.
Great video. I remember flying a 310Q back in 89 from SQL-RNO to the air races…6 on board and we climbed out quick…lots of power and great stable platform. This plane is a beauty. Tremendous avionics package.
Agree - such a great airplane!
Did you finally sell this plane? Doesnt show on the inventory
It's back on the market now.
I got a chance to fly a 310 R once, and compared to a single engine could not believe how solid it was, flew like it was on rails!
Agree - twins are definitely more solid feeling!
While I have always admired the look of a 310, the Baron is far easier to get in and out of.
Good job Matteo! I'm thinking of starting a youtube channel that is aviation related that isn't really being done yet. How could I contact you for some advice? Would be much appreciated. Thanks.
Send me a message on Instagram @matteoavelliniphotos ! Would love to help
Nice scenic flight great camera work.
Thank you!
Like your flights better when you explain the procedures ahead. It makes us non pilots understand how much better. Enjoy all your videos,keep up the good work.
Thanks! Good feedback.
Nice work. Looking to upgrade my panel similar setup in a 340. Flew the STEX for a long time. If you hold down the autopilot disconnect for a few seconds that load beeping stops. Cheers!
I was trying to remember what cancelled the tone- thanks!
Actually earned my Multi and Multi Instructor in a 1978 310R. Awesome plane.
Wow...that is a classic legacy twin...looks to me like a great buy...well taken care of...
Sky King ...anyone ? Lol
Congrats Mateo. It's hard work!
Thank you!
Mateo is great. ! Love the channel.
Thanks!
Sweet panel to bad I had to look at the back of Mateo's head. Nice 310 though.
Rich the Cessna 310 has always been my favorite Multi Engine aircraft for years and I would love to be owning this one
310s are great…..except for the crappy nose gear.
Hell I can't even afford my license but one can dream! Oh well back to the simulators..
dropping gear in a turn like that is a very common issue that cracks the bottom skin via sideload
Hey Rich, nice video. Isn’t great how those old 310s can carry on, even at 9500 hours on the airframe? The avionics upgrade really give them a new lease of life, and if the maintenance and any corrosion issues are kept on top of they’ll keep on trucking!
The big question one has to ask though, is how much of a market is there for these old piston twins today? Most of the manufacturers seem to have lost faith in this class of aircraft, when compared to the proliferation back in the ‘60, ‘70 and ‘80s (with a few exceptions). Is it their operating cost, or just that high end singles can do so much these days, with similar proven safety margins?
Over here in 🇬🇧 UK, operating costs are just killing us. I’m sure you think your Avgas prices in the States are crazy high right now, but for comparison the UK average is about £2.30 per litre = £10.44 per imperial gallon = £8.66 per US gallon = $10.75 PER US GALLON ……!
So if your 310 is burning around 25 USG / hr we’re looking at $268 per hour, and that’s just in fuel costs.
And if your tanks hold 140 USG, that makes it $1505 for a full load of avgas.
Anyway, keep doing what you’re doing, and thanks for showing us Matteo and his filming skills. That’s a whole job in itself, especially the post production editing 👍
Yeah I agree most manufacturer’s have written off the piston twins - too bad such wonderful airplanes. Here in the US market seems strong for them right now - and yes if our fuel prices went to where your’s are the market would suffer. Thanks for the message and thanks for watching!
Sir just subscribed to your channel
I work on the ramp at Heathrow and
Ground handled B737 to B747
Since 2002 .
Just got interested in your channel by
Viewing on and off 😊
Thank you!
Great video. Always love this channel. But don’t talk about crash courses.😄 what was the Cessna Skynight??
Early 310 I believe.
Rich, love your channel and watch it all the time. My question is this, with all the different airplanes you fly, how do you manage to stay current? Thanks.
I train every year on the jets I fly, I fly a lot of different airplanes all the time, and I train a lot of pilots so that all keeps me current!
Flying with Rich are the best Aviation videos! Thank you! I am not a pilot but I fly Microsoft Flight Simulator and have the Cessna 301R. Its amazing how close the software is to watching this video.
Very cool - I have done very little simulator flying!
Rich there is a Cessna 320 that has been rotting over at Chino for the last 30 years. N48325. My dad owned it but his mechanic messed it up. I often wonder if I bought it if I Could fix it up. I have been an A&P for 30 years and I am a private pilot as well. Only thin is that I would have to get it to Kentucky
I think best to access it from a total time, complete logs, damage history point of view. Let’s say it has no damage, complete logs and low-mid airframe time. It would be definitely be worth bringing back to life. On the other hand if damaged, missing logs, high time -maybe not worth putting time/money into. Chino is close so if I can help, let me know.
I'll take it.
Me too. Cash OK? Man, IMO the sexiest civil. twin.
👍☑ Nice episode Rich, great that you showed the technical side of making these videos. The guy behind the scene is very important.
Yeah really appreciate the support and work it takes to do the videos! Thanks for the message.
have not seen any videos from you guys hope all is well
Such a great video! Amazing flying!
And I just subscribed!😄
Thank you!
👍
I fly a Cessna 152. Rentals. What happens if engine fails while banking from a short base to final while flying a twin.
Likely power would be pulled back so the aerodynamic impact of the engine out is minimal. However, if the pilot panics and executes a single engine go-around and adds full power and pitches up too abruptly - likely VMC roll.
👍🏻😎
But does it have a bathmate
Fantastic Rich
Hey Rich , is there anything that you can’t fly? 😅
Man I hope not! Been very lucky to get to fly lots of different airplanes over my career - lots of repetition! Thanks for watching!
Mateo, you didnt hopefully have a “ crash course”! Hahahaha
Richard making small talk with Mateo...... nice!!
From a professional photography standpoint, with regards to interiors, try a 360 camera between the pilot & co-pilot seats and the passenger compartment. This will make your listings pop!
Thanks for the tip!
Back in '79 I made that same flight from Compton to Catalina and back many times... looks like not much has changed except I'd bet the basin is even more crowded now..... my sight seeing run now is Whale watching low and slow along the Oregon Coast........... left in '99 and never looked back. Thanks Rich for the cool view .😊
Thanks. Crowded for sure but still great flying!
Sweet plane!!!
👍☑ now that's gonna be a tough decision, sail boat or 310. Don't sweat it guys, just get both. Boat for Janis and 310 for Ron!
Need a 310 to get to the boat!
@@FlyingwithRich 👍☑yea, heard they are flying comercial to the Miami Boat Show. If they had bought this from you could have done it in a little over 6 hours and had a whole lot more fun! Tks Rich
All that money in avionics and can't get a proper engine analyzer to take care of your 2x$40,000 investments...
We can still take pretty good care of them, but I don’t disagree!
Awsome video, love how you fly over Santa Catalina Island on your videos! Don't forget to land once in a while, such a fun strip and Great restaurant, cool history, I had fun shooting the VOR into KAVX ,thanks Rich!
Thanks - yeah seems always pressed for time, but definitely will plan a video to land there and show the airport and Cafe!
15 gph ? total ? .. nice plane
nice camera angles . love it
Been hoping to see you demo a 310. This was built around the time I was flying. Thanks
Thank you!
I don't see this plane on Controller any more
Sold.
It's back!
Why do you need 2 750's? Is that for comms?
Redundancy mostly - dual Nav, dual Com, dual GPS, just in case.
Same age as me! The last 45 years have been kinder to her than me 😂.
Me too!
Thanks for letting us know how much it cost.
Thanks for watching!
Another good flight, enjoy flying with you
Thanks for watching!
What's the "thing" on the windshield???
That’s where the old whiskey compass was I think. Replaced with a vertical card compass. Thanks for the question!
That’s a beautiful machine!
Thanks!
Beatiful 310 R
What is the useful load of this plane?
1643 lbs
If I may, one constructive criticism. We don't see enough of the the cabin on these planes, the video itself and the explanation is more on the cockpit work, plane capability and sometimes exterior. If we can see the cabin space, how many people it fits and help visualize the experience for a potential buyer . It will help showing the wives of pilots where they will be lounging. As a real estate developer I learned early on that the wife buys the house.
We have had that feedback before and we need to do more of that so will make sure to do it. Thanks for the message!
Just say “show us more interiors” 🤦♀️
Love the 310's. I was lucky enough to get my multi in a 65 J model. Later got CFI multi in a 78 310 R N4927A. This brings back great memories. Not a fan of touch screen
Navigators. Being old school partial to original panel layout. Everybody's spoiled now. Keep up the good job of presenting these nice aircraft.
You guys do it right
Thank you!
Wonder what happened to Keven and Jamie and their 310?? 310 pilot was his TH-cam name.
I sub to his page. Official word is Kevin and Jaime both work for the FAA in ATC, both are working tons of overtime, allegedly 6 day weeks. Kevin said they were too busy to keep the plane flying regularly, so he sold the hangar and the plane. Kevin really ghosted everyone, though, he had promised to finish the video from their last trip from 2021. Last video was posted in September, nearly 5 months ago.
@@davidfrench5407 yeahhh they dropped off like a rock and with all the ATC overtime I guess the TH-cam money wasn’t that big of a deal. They seemed to be pretty active so I hope they’re occupying their lives with the kids and some fun also. Towards the end I definitely sensed a change in both of them but growth is always good.
Sometimes PR0P-SYNC causes NASTY REVERBERATI0N
True!
Super cool to see the set up
You have a great group of people working with you. I’d love to come by for a day, meet everyone, and break bread with you guys.
Stop by!