How They Did It - Pet Dogs in Ancient Rome
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- Our history with man's best friend stretches far into the past. Today we take a look at the lives of dogs in ancient Rome; how they named, trained, and raised them.
Bibliography:
Xenophon and Arrian: On Hunting (1999) translated by A. A. Phillips and M. M. Willcock Metamorphoses Book III by Ovid
Names of Dogs in Ancient Greece by Adrienne Mayor
Greek and Roman Household Pets by Francis D. Lazenby
Artwork:
Beverly Johnson (www.behance.ne...)
Music:
"Strings and Drums Comedy" by 8th Mode Music
"Emotional" by 8th Mode Music
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#HowTheyDidIt
We cover the fascinating history of Vikings and their pets as well: th-cam.com/video/jn_L5kLjzWs/w-d-xo.html
Awesome!!!
Ah, the artwork, I just know which artist DID make the ose pics used, but you cut out the best parts....
Still it sits well for me that there are other people who enjoy Manara's great historic art an still make video, which in the end makes me weep, kudos to you maker of this one, you can make brave soul to weep, listening those insriptions for for brave little furballs,,,
"I am in tears while carrying you to your last resting place, as much as I rejoiced when bringing you home in my own hands 15 years ago."
Oh god my heart hurts.
Sorry for your loss; it does hurt like hell!😭😭
Ooh that was a passage? Duh
@@amoregrove8060 Honestly, me.
I wonder what a good upper class tombstone cost in ancient Rome? I feel awful I did not get any of my pets ones!
😟😩😫😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
"But now his voice is imprisoned in the silent pathways of the night."
Damn.
Got me choked up a bit, had a tear, no lie.
@@genericalfishtycoon3853 Same, dawg. No need to feel ashamed.
@@dfiala9890 👍
"Myia, who never barked without reason, but now he is silent."
Damn, that's a very touching epitath for a dog.
ThatGuy Felt that ONE SO MUCH!!!
That one made real sad):
That's pure poetry 😢
Oh yes. So, so sad.
ThatGuy, so very true. We had a dog that had a distinctive bark. She died 30 March 2017. She is very much missed.
I wonder if the authors of those epitaphs ever thought, "I'm for sure gonna make someone cry in their room like 2100 years from now."
im sure they wrote the epitaphs because they were crying in their room too, 2100 years ago
@@annemcmustard4024 Too soon
when I bought my house the first time I was walking around the yard i stumbled on a set of pet graves from the previous owners (an elderly couple) complete with legitimate carved "headstones" (they're actually footstones for humans but they were carved with the names of the pets... "creature" "buster" and "smoky")
when my good boy goes I'm going to put him under with them and pay to make him a marker to match theirs... maybe somebody a few hundred or a couple thousand years from now will see them and be sad for a minute too
I'm crying and laughing at the same time thanks to your comment :")
@@spuilloh2637 pretty sure they were also "pathetically emotional" if they thought to even write them for their pets in the first place, no? 🤔
My favorite ancient Roman dog was one named Delta. She was found when archaeologists were making plaster casts of bodies in the remains of Pompeii. Found with her was her silver engraved collar that named her Delta, as well as named her owner Severinus and mentioned that she had saved his life on 3 occasions. First, Delta pulled him out of the sea and saved him from drowning. Second, she fought off 4 attackers who had tried to rob him. Finally, she defended him from a wolf that tried to attack him near the city of Herculaneum. Here’s the kicker. Delta was discovered in Pompeii positioned lying over the body of a young child, probably a relative of her master, attempting to shield it from the volcano. Even with her dying breath, Delta was a loyal and protective dog.
sTOP MAKING ME F E E L DAMNIT
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA, THE FEELS! THE FEELS GOT ME.
All hail Delta, Queen of Dogs! 😭
Ouch this made me cry ngl
Ouch :(
"I shed tears as I carry you to your final resting place, The same way I rejoiced carry you home in the same hands I did fifteen years ago." Hit me right in the feels.
I know that one made me start to bawl.
really shows that humans really dont change, only technology improves
Our lab just died, old boy almost made it to 15. He was a puppy until the end, died in my brother's arms on the way to see the vet.
my wee dog is 15 right now and has been having bad health issues recently, although after an operation seems a lot better. but watching that was so sad that I'm crying a bit in my room aaaaa 😭
When my dog passed this passage popped up in my head
"Never again shall you give me a thousand kisses" *sobbing*
Southern Gothic I like how you an I watch almost the exact same videos....
@@RainyRunningRiver creepy
ya that one hit me the hardest
that part physically hurts! x'D..
Somebody's cutting onion :,(
"What did you name your dog?"
"Bear!"
"Deerslayer!"
"Whirlwind!"
"... Spot."
Deerslayer*
Fun fact though
Did you know Cerberus is actually a Greek variation of Spot?....I'm not even kidding
Hades named his pet dog Spot!
@@ulyssesdenice5071 lol yeah I was wondering whether to comment about that or this 😂
@@mountainmoth
XD
Poopfactory.
I got tired of listening to people telling me "it was a dog"
This one video has helped me realize people have been hurting for thousands of years when their beautiful companions pass away.
and in one grave it said something like do not laugh because its a grave for a dog, so theyve also beeen mocking people for crying over dogs too. not only were their "dog people" but also "it was just a dog" people back then.
Saying it's "just a dog" is mean spirited and not comforting to the grieving person. I still miss my dog George who died in 2004. He really was a "good boy" 🐶
@@R.Oates7902 oh... its nothing ;( im just cutting onions
Do people really speak in such heartless terms?
Who the hell says that?? It's like saying "it was just a friend". How demented.
I wonder what those Romans would think if they knew thousands are reading the epitaphs of their dogs in the far distant future, and sharing in their sorrow.
I think that they would have been in wonder and amazed first. Then happy to know that their beloved family member was still being remembered... Then happy to know that we grieved with them. They were very much with camaraderie back then.
No time need to watch alle tv and TH-cam i missed in the last thousand of years
Isn't that kind of what they assumed would happened when they wrote it in a piece of stone?
Maui Randall Yes it might be. Although it is not often that we are able to read epitaphs of fur babies. This must have been such an awesome find... Since it is a very rare find. Most epitaphs that have been made of the past have been erased in time. *EDIT* Sorry about the typos. I was typing while tired on my phone.
Maybe they assumed that, but I doubt they will imagine that thousands of people all over the world, overseas will know about their grief, 2000 years later
YOU MADE ME CRY FOR A DOG THAT DIED THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO
Every dog deserves to be cried over at least a thousand times
@@kisakisakura6663 damn true 😭😭damn true 😭😭😭
@@kisakisakura6663 Especially when they bite your balls off
Kisaki Sakura Not all. Some dogs are assholes
@@ninjaman815 true but those dogs have bad backstories like sasuke
When you suddenly relate to someone who has been dead for thousands of years is a sobering moment that reminds you of every human's shared humanity.
This makes the Romans who wrote those epitaphs so real to me, not just an abstraction of history.
They really loved those dogs and might have considered them part of the family
@Stephen Smith Hey, funny seeing you here!
Yep, sad to see both the noble pup and the noble humans who entombed him within marble gone since an age ago...
Hey the Greeks were (and actually still are) dog lovers.
I mean Kerboros (Cereberos) literally means Spot.
And a lot of Greek places of business allow stray dogs to sleep inside at night and during bad weather.
In Greece they dont really 'strays' they have dogs who are part of the community, but do not belong to any single individual.
I dont much like my Greek neighbors (loud, foul language even around children, and extremely rude at times) but they did offer to help me hide the evidence if i ever needed to kill our dog hating neighbor, so they arent that bad >.>
Indeed. We are not so different from people 2,000 years ago. Many parts of the human experience like our friendship with dogs stay exactly the same.
my 15 year old pup, half blind and near deaf, sensed my emotion watching this video.
She waddled in the room,
sneezed,
pooped on the floor, and went back to bed. i love her so much.....lol
peachy b. That's so sweet! (Kinda suck she pooped but she's old. I mean, u don't get to clean those poops forever anyway, so enjoy while u can.) Ur an awesome person tho!
Lol wtf..
This comment is so needed 😂
Tell her I love her
@Toby R I'm just saying, when ur little 4 legged friend is gone, ur gonna wish they were there, poop💩 and all. And having ur old dog around is a nice thing to do. They take a lot of maintenance cause they old. Having them around shows u care and that u still do anything to take care of them.
Do not cry, because it is known that Pluto, god of death, loves dogs, and surely he is taking good care of those dogos down there
well, fuck my heart gently with a chainsaw, why don’t you ? that is so sweet
@@sleepy_elle3507 We get it, you're into BDSM.
Art Lover hell yeah
@@sleepy_elle3507 Please no. 😂
this makes me wanna cry even more
Damn these epitaphs hit hard, reminds me of the epitaph for a cat i saw on Imgur
Dewey 1898-1910
"He was only a cat but he was human enough to be a great comfort in hours of loneliness and pain"
Im Not allowed to have Pet, but i really Wish i Had one, i Sometimes really need the comfort when Nobody is There
"A cat is fine too" ~I'm done for
😢
@@cube_2593 I hope someday you will get a chance to have a companion animal of your own. When I was 11 I wasn't allowed to have a pet either, but around the same time a lot of hard times hit my family I found a kitten in a gutter. So I took her home and kept her hidden with me at all times (she was a newborn and needed to be fed often). Luckily she was quiet and didn't mind spending most of her time in my jacket or bookbag (I even took her to school). By the time my parents found out about her, she was almost six months old. They let me keep her, and they even took care of her for me when I went away to serve in the Army. She was there to comfort me when I came back with injuries and PTSD, and she always preferred if she was close to my heart like when she was a kitten. She eventually passed away at 20 years old. It was like losing a child, but I don't regret one moment I had with her.
😭😭😭
I never thought I'd get teary eyed over a 2000 year long dead pupper :(.
He was a good boy though
Zonofv 1 The goodest
it's Fry's dog all over again
I can't take this thread man...... Q_Q
but not opera caz its not run by the jew
“Never barked without a reason, now he is silent forever.” - DAMN
Could use that for my ex lol
Came expecting cute dog stories, left crying from cute dog stories
I straight gave my dog my soft taco cause I was crying and he was looking at me 😭➕🌮🐶
I Honestly Came Expecting Some Horrible Stories About Romans Beating And Whipping Their Dogs Before Using Them As Tools That Get Disposed Of After They Are No Longer Needed. Glad That Was't The Case.
@@JT5555 Really puts things into perspective, huh? Many parts of ancient society may seem pretty barbaric, but people have always been people.
@@dfiala9890 Perhaps. Kinda Hard Not To Expect It,Though From A Culture That Also Used To Capture Lions,Starve Them And Force Them To Fight Warriors In Front Of God Know's How Many People All Just For Fun. I'm Glad They Liked Their Dogs,But Historically Speaking They Were Kind Of Dicks So It's Hard Not To Expect The Worst.
baberuth1000 Dogs are truly wonderful members of the family.
Humans: Have evolved as a society through the century
Dogs: Were perfect good boys from the beginning and forevermore
You're wrong in one part my friend.
lol dogs started off as friendlier wolves who would have eaten a human baby if they could get away with it
@@BoxStudioExecutive
Except we're talking about dogs once they were actually dogs, not just friendly wolves.
DISTurbedwaffle918 Precisely, the first goodboy was also the first dog
Like you (or anyone) could pinpoint the exact moment a breed of wolves became dogs
Everyone a gangsta until they hear some ancient Roman dog epitaphs
Gracie Dison BAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
Edyson T Maldonado Baten b o i
XxDAMARIESU123xX {DA ACTRUAL MARU SUIE} lmao
@@Akaedyson But not THAT blatant, even when the comment itself’s got nothing to do with it lol
@@Akaedyson you ever think they dont respond because its creepy
When you think it’s safe to watch an Invicta video on your phone in public, but end up getting weird looks from people whilst crying about dogs that have been dead for centuries
Millenniums!
James Royster 👍
alexander little Fuck off, being a man doesn't make you a fucking rock, everyone's human, i bet you never had a dog before.
I love the one that said don't laugh even though this is a dog's grave. It just really brought home how the death of any being close to us is something difficult and worth remembering, regardless of differences in species.
Amen 🙏
Bone Lad The dog is more worthy of memorial than man, because his loyalty is unquestionable.
And it’s so interesting that even back then some people didnt understand that love and would laugh at it, but at least some people have always felt that a dog’s soul is as noble and deserving as a human
That was by far my favorite
@@a.h.1358 You should look up the speech that the phrase "man's best friend" came from. I can tell you'd enjoy it.
Almost everything that you hear on the history of Rome is about laconic military authoritarianism and greedy, power-hungry corruption, and almost always about men fighting other men. I’ve never read or heard anything that reminds me that these people were a full society of loving, compassionate human beings as much as this. Really nice video
As much as things can become very silly in some circles, this is part of the root of the claims of historical bias and such. I wouldn't describe it in terms of prejudice, there are real reasons why some things are recorded more than others, but a lot of history in many cultures is dominated by records of wealthy aristocrat men, oft warriors. The truth however is the majority of humans throughout history were men, women and children (and their companions) who were often slaves or farmers and crafters. Unfortunately the lives and stories of these, majority of people, living in the majority of circumstances away from warfare, is often forgotten, which excludes the kind of stories and expressions in this video.
The history of war ought to be counterbalanced by that of peace, and conflict by companionship.
I really wasn't expecting to start crying when the epithaths were being read. You can feel the love in our ancestor's words for their companions. Part of their houses, lives, souls...
Anthony De Castro there were good boys until the end
Nothing wrong with crying about that. Plenty have. Hearing such a thing reminds people of their own pets.
Devin Harp are you insulting the good boys lives
@ you should probably go fuck yourself.
it was very touching. our ancestors. either 2 or 4 legs. was no different than we are today!
Bruh. Those dog tombstones hit me in the feels
ikr, didn't get here for the feels but ended up getting it anyway
I pressed f to pay respects.
Those were some loyal boys can't find loyal followers like those anymore
Yeah those hit hard. I think the ninja’s are cutting onions again.
They were good boys till the end
Me: I'm not gonna cry today
Ancient dog epitaph: I am in tears while carrying you to your last resting place, as much as I rejoiced when bringing you home in my own hands fifteen years ago
Me: ;~; we don't deserve dogs
1000"s upon 1000's of years pass...and we are still naming our dogs "spot".
Fun fact: the name Cerberus is derived from the ancient Greek word for spotted. Yes, Hades, lord of the underworld, named his dog 'Spot.'
@@fattiger6957 oh my God that is hilarious
Brave adventures cowering in fear at the Mighty Three headed Dog of hades guarding the gates. It's name? Spot.
Wait, what? A three-headed dog with a ruff made of snakes and a dragon as its tail is named Spot?? Those Greeks were crazy!
They were naming it how they saw it. Funny how they called the dogs blackie or whitey. Even killer made the list
"The roman raider Raidius..." that is the most spot on name i've ever heard.
In the same leagues as Biggus Dickus
Perfect alliteration. 10/10
@@jedihunter176 craggy ttc
Master of the spotted dog named Spot
He would also have made a fine circle.
RIP all the good boyes, hope they are chasing squirrels in heaven (aka squirrel hell)
Most small animals would like to see three animals go extinct -- humans, dogs, and cats.
Cheryl calm down, damn!
Lmao squirrel hell im dead😂
@@MCWren If they're going to say something stupid then they should expect replies like that lol
Frej A. What did Cheryl say
Damn Romans had more variety of dog names than their own first names.
There was even Bigus Dikus !
and his wife Incontinentia Buttocks
Ron Lewenberg he means the praenomen, that really are a few names only, like Lucius, Caius, Sextus, Marcus, Primus, etc.
Lardez_Julii. Lucas, calvin, Marcus, peter?
Calvinus was a cognomen I think. Lucas it's a translation of Lucius.
Marcus is a praenomen, yes, and Peter comes from Petrus (stone) and the biblical character, so it's a late name
Those epitaphs were mournfully beautiful, drew some fresh tears from me.
😱 666 likes, im not changing that
My dog I had since I was a child died in my arms about 2 years ago. She didn’t want to die in front of us, cause she knew we would worry. We finally noticed her laying there, we screamed and tired our best to help her back. When she realized we were sad and upset she tired her best to stand up and comfort us, but it was too late. I still can’t believe her final thoughts were to try and help us. RIP Coconut. You will always be in my heart❤️
My god! you just made me cry🥺🥺🤧🤧
You made me and my brother cry!! :'(
And RIP your doggo 😢
Full on tears, dear god
wtf man now i’m crying
Rest in peace Coconut
Stop making me feel. My dog is immortal, she promised me.
Sum Arbor There are those who report having had visions during clinical death when science tells us the needed brain activity has ceased. Seeing family members, pets included, who have passed on is extremely common, though I myself have never once read of those seeing loved ones still alive, which would indeed suggest mere hallucination in that case. I am still not yet 100% sure there is a greater, interconnective power across life and death, but if so, I am sure your doggo is lovingly, patiently part of whatever awaits you.
I support
Hey, mine too.
“I am in tears while carrying you to your last resting place
As much as I rejoiced bringing you home in my own hands fifteen years ago.”
This some powerful stuff
And yet, millennia later, still so relatable
@@Esinololly yet so racist. Romans like white people today care more about dogs then black people.
@@Jamarkus_Delvonte wtf? lol
@@Jamarkus_Delvonte outta nowhere
Jamar Quvious lol what a stupid thing to say on a video about ancient Roman dogs
"let me just get my dog, *DEERSLAYER*
*is a lap dog* 😂
I think I'm gonna actually get a puppy and name them deerslayer one day
`Yeah, it sounds stupid for a dog name... but then you repeat it in your head again and again, think about it, and after a while you can of envision calling the name of your future dog, the dog walking with pride with it's badass name... and out of nowhere it sounds right. Deeeeeer~~~slayer,!!! That's a really cool name for a dog.
Bark and Trot untill it's done
plot twist: It's a Pomeranian
Those epitaphs are heart breaking. I kept looking over at my dogs little urn, photo, and paw print while each somber epitaph was read. I miss my sweet Iris immensely but I know in death, as in life, she is still “the heartbeat at my feet.”
Please accept my deepest condolences on the passing of your dear girl dog 😭
Iris, the Bringer of Rainbows
We can’t forget strongboy
I was SO disappointed when he didn't list that name.
You got chocolate in my peanut butter! ... wait, wrong video
I got a strongal at home. She is a good girl.
"In a resting place of marble, I have put you for all time by the side of my shade."
For all time indeed. Two thousand years later, we can feel your sorrow.
*_D E E R S L A Y E R_*
I cant get over deerslayer
**Metal solo starts playing in the background*
I read this in the doom guy voice
*_D a g g e r_*
today's name equivalent would be D I S H L I C K E R
The fact that some guy a few thousands years ago was complaining about small yappy dogs amazes me. 2 millennia and thousands of miles apart and we're still dealing with the same sort of issues.
"I hope that in this video I have shed some light"
The only thing you made me shed is tears!!!!!!
AbsoluteMadDog™ watching the video you cried so does that make you an AbsoluteSadDog?
@@ashleysado8954 *YES*😂😂😂
Majima!
"Never again can you give a thousand kisses" is what got me tearing up. Thats amazing, to think about how personalities of people and dogs have not changed. We often think of those ancient ancestors based on the things we see, like occupation centric busy-lives and strong leaders, ignoring the whole world of in between times where people are still just people.
I mean, they sound way more appreciative of their dogs than most people these days.. now days people just "toss em acrossed the road" (any animal really) or just dig a hole, cry and move on. they dont set up a real grave or make it all poetic and stuffs.. P:
@@AlphaTengua I think back in the day, people handled their dead better than we do now. They had time to mourn and spend time with their passed ones. We don't really do that too much now a days.
AlphaTengua VENTz Most, if not all, of these graves belonged to the few wealthy families of the times.
Even the leaders who led the busy life were not immune. There is the story about one of the two Censors of Rome, a very responsible post for public works and deciding who would be added or removed from the Senate, which was only held by those who had already been Consul, the leaders of the state. So this Censor had a pet fish, that he kept in a special fountain and would hand feed daily himself and it would come to him when he sat down to greet him. One day it died, and he was sad and the other Censor noticed him and mocked him about feeling sad about the fish. He snarled back "I can expect that from you, you are so cold hearted you have buried several wives without shedding a tear".
The two could not work together after that and both had to resign the post and new Censors hired to replace them.
People that didn't wear pants!
You can see how loved dogs were in the ancient world from the Odyssey, which predates those tombs by centuries. In the whole Odyssey, Ulises sheds only one tear, and it is for his dog Argos, who recognizes him when he arrives back at his home when no one else did. The dog, once a mighty hunter, now resting over a pile of dung and covered in fleas, is too weak to even go great his old master, but drops his ears and wags his tail as he sees him .
Ulises cannot go greet him, for it would betray his real identity, so he can only shed that one single tear, as he tells to the man who was accompanying him: "Eumaios, what a noble hound is that is over yonder on the manure heap: his build is splendid; is he as fine a fellow as he looks, or is he only one of those dogs that come begging about a table, and are kept merely for show?"
To which Eumainos answered:
"This dog belonged to him who has died in a far country. If he were what he was when Odysseus left for Troy, he would soon show you what he could do. There was not a wild beast in the forest that could get away from him when he was once on its tracks. But now he has fallen on evil times, for his master is dead and gone, and the women take no care of him. Servants never do their work when their master's hand is no longer over them, for Zeus takes half the goodness out of a man when he makes a slave of him"
Aw that's so sad.. I think I'd have broken and gone over if I had been in his place
The saddest part about that story is that after wagging his tail for the last time at the sight of Ulisse, Argo dies. He is taken by the dark Death forever, after being able to see Ulisse 20 years after he sailed away. A goddess, Ker, closes his eyes forever. That's the point he sheds a single tear.
Omfg duuudeee nooo im crying asdfghgdhs this sht hits deep
Oh my god ;-;
@@merlumili Reminds me of my bird.. i was a kid and had little choice or control over the situations at hand, just so you know, - we were forced to go on a 4 day (or was it a week?) trip i think either it was the ugly over used dreaded forced "majority rules!~ >P fuck u n ur needs/feels" "florida vacation" that we ALWAYS fucking went to the point..i never wanna step foot in that place AGAIN. and def not against my WILL (no choice), or, it was to see family that was far away, not sure which anymore. But , our aunt was supposed to take care of ALL the animals and was told by multiple ppl many times about my bird and she's owned them and hers live ages so she fucking knows how to care for one. right... guess not mine. i could not stay i was like 5-10 somewhere around there, and , i could not bring it (him/her? idk lol) with me. The bird was well cared for every day and in perfect health when i left. Chirping like crazy cuz it didnt want me to go lol. (always tried to follow me around and such) well i come home run to my bird and its sitting there chillin -seeming- fine but i knew something was wrong... the bird dove (jumped/"step up"ed etc.) into my hand looked at me tweeted and...fell over and died 8l..in my hands.. #traumatized kiddo xD... god i was pissed and sad about that and it was just a biig wtf. but the cage hadn't been cleaned, for some reason she opened a window and left it like that while we were gone, and the food was just loaded with the crumbs/unedible parts (that birds and their feed often leave) and no actual food, and dirty shitty gross ass water that was very low... >/ and then the bitch had the nerve to blame me and say we don't take care of our animals and should stop owning them. pfft..
7:09 Look at that face. That's the face of a good boy. A good boy that looks directly at the painter, as if to desperately ask "Can I please move now?".
And the shy curling tail... Not only people then did love dogs as we do, but the painter obviously did also, and that also makes you relate to real people. Not just the one who liked dogs and commissioned a picture of his pet painted, but also the artist capturing that feeling in that moment.
Sensibility at its finest.
Good eye for the nuances, you. Before your comment I only glanced over that pic. Thank you
*The more I grow older as a human, the more I realise that we don't actually deserve dogs. forever goodboys*
We *made* dogs. We deserve them, and they deserve us.
Do we really though? After seeing tons in shelters and humane society's, abused, neglected, forgotten and unwanted do we really deserve dogs?
@@TheWolfspirit22 You ignore the millions that live in loving families
BoarhideGaming nah we don’t deserve them they are absolute good boys
They are good-boys whose affection, genuine; loyalty, unquestionable.
goddamn, i didn't know roman graves were so poetic.
the Greeks, too. Google "Song of Seikilos," which is an epitaph put to song from around the time of Augustus Caesar.
Unlawful_Falafel: The point of an epitaph is to be poetic.
@@denisenova7494 not always, anyway i was just impressed
One of the most touching epitaphs I ever read was for a girl that said " []is my name; instead of love, death found me"
Pretty sure we get the word romantic from Rome/Roman.
In Pompei there was an ancient sign found that said "Cave Canem", which translates to "Beware of the dog!"
It's shown in the video.
Some things never change!
One of the fascinating things about Rome is that we can read the words of real people writing about their lives, experiencies..So much material is available you can almost feel what it was like to stand in the forum and eavesdrop as the locals conduct their business or gossip to friends. We may be separated by 2000 years but we can still get a sense that these were real people living real lives. Romans shaped the society as we know it today.
I agree! There is definitely a poetic romanticism to the words of the Ancient past that invoke an almost interpersonal relationship between that person from the past to ourselves - it is a uniquely Human connection not one found to be very clear even to those we share our time with. Same can be said of any ancient texts. We are very fortunate at all the written records we have from Rome.
Also, "Helen of Troy" indeed the name suits you. 'v'
Democracy came from Greece and The United States is a Republic not a democracy its in the pledge.
1001 Helen Of Troy i still wouldn't want to live in rome in that time
Date me History Nerd.
@Mike Lucky Actually, the internet was invented at CERN in Geneva, Switzerland, and democracy is the intellectual property of the Greeks.
I read the title as "how they pet dogs in rome". as in, there being a particular protocol to pet a dog
Same
I would love to see that.
Given the Roman's near-obsession with protocol, it wouldn't surprise me :P
what do you mean thats not what it said
Same
its so interesting to see how despite these people being from centuries ago, we can still relate to them on a deep level. its something i wish schools would touch on.
Definitely, we almost never get to experience that the people in ancient times were actual people with intentions and emotions and not a historical statistic
These people were from millenniums ago
"Tears fell for me, and dust was heaped above me by a master's hand". I am cry.
I cri evrytym
Some of Xenophon's Recommended Names (Original+Translation) for those interested: Psyche (soul), Thymos (Spirit), Xephon (swordman), Hara (Joy), Via (Force), Aktis (Ray of Light), Phylax (Guard), Ether (ummm ether :p), Eva (Youth). Wherever you see "Y" or "i" pronounce it as "ee" (see, tea, reeeeeeeee etc).
pseechee
Thank you for this, I'd love to use the original names than the translated ones.
@@Rorisgay Nope, it's pseekeh, more or less the same sound that E makes in bed. Also, PS pronounced as p+s, not as s as it usually happen in modern English.
@@captainufo4587 pseecheé
And no the e is not the same as in bed, it's more like e in the word 'be'
The ch is soft. Or pseejeé using the spanish jota (j)
Wrong it is psuche The u would have been pronounce as German u with a umlaut over it and the final eta would have be prounced as a longer version of epsilon.
I lost my baby girl four days ago today, on April 19, 2019. She passed away in my arms and I didn’t know that she was dying (I’m crying as I make this) this video was so relatable to me; but I know I probably won’t be able to make something so beautiful to express my grief. I rarely comment on TH-cam (I only made one before, because I prefer to keep my opinions to myself) so thank you for making this video. It was poetically beautiful to see those immortal words of love.
Lost our lab three days ago, he died in my brother's arms on the way to see the vet. It hurt me a lot but I know there was no better way for him to leave us. He left in the arms of someone he loved more than perhaps anyone else and we didn't have to put him down. He was a puppy until the end.
...This is probably the most connected I've ever felt to anyone that long ago...
They felt the loss of their beloved companions no differently than I have..
*Things I was expecting to feel when I clicked on this video:* amusement, camaraderie, maybe anger (history hasn't always been kind to dogs)
*Things I was not expecting to feel when I clicked on this video:* deep depression and the desire to weep
Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go hug my dog and pull gently on her ears while speaking her name along with a hearty "good girl".
My dog is going to be put down in a couple hours, and I’m thousands of miles away from her. I came to this video because I knew about the last section and I wanted to feel the consolation of others who went through what I am. Thank you for uploading this. You’ve made the passing of my beloved companion much easier for me
My condolences, that is rough.
I feel your pain, and your love
I lost my buddy of 14 years about 3 months ago, it still burns to think about. The love of our dogs connects us as humans, all throughout History.
I feel you! We put down our 15 year old beagle back in May of 2018. And yes it still burns and cry about him. R.I.P
My sympathies.
Max Power sorry to hear that 😭 R.I.P. to your dog. I bet he was a really good boi (or gorl)
Such a terrible feeling, I lost my poor boy about a month ago...he was ready but I was not
Is that you modern Jesus?!
The line about carrying their dog to a grave, like they did joyfully 15 years ago when it was still alive made me cry. I had 13 years with my dog, Mandy, from age 5 to 18. I remember holding her in my arms the day we got her, being so excited. I held her in her last moments, telling her that everything was going to be ok. Dogs aren't forever but their memories last a lifetime.
I had never connected like that to ancient people. The way they went through love, family, honor etc changed so much that it's a stretch of imagination understanding them...
...but those dog encryptions...
those need no translation - I'm crying!!
I lost my doggy a perky gorgeous boy Golden Retriever called Wally recently. This must be the best facts-based history lesson I've ever watched, just because of this crazy bonding. Thanks for this.
Please accept my deepest condolences on the passing of your dear Golden Retriever, Wally 😭
I thought I could keep it together through the epithets, but...nope. I'm a wreck right now. My dog passed about a year ago now, but I can still recall sobbing over his lifeless body.
It's weird to think of people from thousands of years ago crying over a dog like I did. I really honestly thought that it was only recently, within the past couple centuries, that we as a species began to view pets as beloved partners rather than useful commodities only a step above livestock. From the epithets, it is clear to me now that's not the case. These people truly loved their dogs and were utterly heartbroken by their passing.
Thank you for sharing this.
Please accept my deepest condolences on the passing of your dear boy dog 😭
TheCucuyo9779 especially when there are a lot of jerks calling us weak now for crying for the loss of a dog
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There are archeological remains of dogs buried like people from way before the coming of agriculture
There's evidence Cerberus translates to, what we would say, Spot or Spotted.
Hades, lord of the underworld, named his three headed dog Spot. Have a nice day.
You watch OSP too?
I would assume that it means loyal, guard, guardian etc, as they "claim" its "guards" the gates of hell or some shit. But if that is truth, then the assumed 3 headed dog was not all black. it must have had one spot somewhere lol.
@@AlphaTengua numerous ancient depictions of Cerberus have him as a multi colored dog. Red, white, and black, not just all jet black.
Here's an image I found
goo.gl/images/7whnB5
He was a good boy.
My Latin teacher told us that too.
I could hear the emotion in your voice. These epitaphs were so genuine and sad 😞
You can hear his voice begin to break, I feel that.
As a historian and archaeologist, I would love to see what you can dig up about fish as pets/food/ponds... supposedly the wealthy romans often had tubs for keeping fish in a marble box under the bed for several days prior to holidays. Also ancient Chinese ....and later Persians used carp as pets .
Rome is inland and it's common knowledge that exotic animals, crocodiles, supposedly sharks even for the arena. My question is, if you've ever come across details and dates of aquariums or care takers of exotic fish for spectical.
Thanks for all you do, Sincerely. Alexander Williamson. Cheers!
There still are some people who keep fish in their bathtubs for a few days before eating them. It's supposed to help make sure they're not contaminated by dirty/polluted water.
Read the Sumerian Texts they farmed fish big time,Solomon had fish ponds in his gardens and the Egyptians kept Barking Catfish as pets, just to name a few. I love fish
Many Romans did dote on pet fish.
I'm sorry they kept *what* for the arena?
*Dog dies
Roman: This is so sad. Alexa, import slaves from Thessalia.
Usual Roman goofs and laughs
It is ironic! LOL! Alexa...import female slaves!
...and Dacia, Britannia, perhaps Germania...oh no! They won't co-operate!
I was crying until i read this. Thanks.
Irrelevant. At the time slaves from conquests were ubiquitous. Just what you had to deal with when you were conquered and much better than being slain.
“What’s your dog’s name?”
“.........WHIRLWIND.”
That’s what’s UP😁👍
NGL Storm is a pretty good name too.
I cried my eyes out my dog is 17 yrs old ive had since he was 5wks old hes my best friend i love him lots i know my heart will break when his time comes to leave this earth
I hope everything is okay with him after 9 months of posting this comment
17 yrs old? That is one long living good boye. Your dog met a good owner such as you to live this long
6:27 Who's cutting onions in here :(
Yeah, that one got me too.
It’s tough empathizing with those thousands of years ago.
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Same omg
6:43 does it for me.
"He never barked without reason, but he is silent" that shit made me cry.
Me too
I knew the Romans loved dogs, but I did not know they gave their dogs graves with epitaphs. When people do that today, it's often seen as being silly or over the top, so the fact that some Romans went as far as commissioning sculptures as headstones is something I find very sweet. As an extra note, I think Rottweilers have gone gone relatively unchanged since antiquity, their ancestors being popular drovers.
I think it was back then too, since the epitaph of that one that asks you not to laugh that it is a pets grave.
Just like all dog breeds, Rottweilers have been changed a whole lot since the roman times. Ralph vom Neckar was a Rottweiler who lived only slightly more than 100 years ago, and he looked so different that no modern person would even recognize him as a purebred Rottie. So much for not changing, right?
en.working-dog.com/dogs-details/50053/Ralph-vom-Neckar
The ancient ancestors you speak of, are the exact same dogs that every other molosser breeder (with the exception of LGDs) claims as proof of their "chosen breed's" ancientness. Funny how that works.
Yes, the roman molossers were most likely (one of) the ancestors, but they were not THE SAME BREED. In the specific case of Rottweilers, it also looks like the Beauceron had at least as much, if not more influence on the Rottweiler breed than Roman molossers.
@@animalobsessed1 by purebred Rottweiler.
You mean inbred Rottweiler right?
@@marseldagistani1989 lol, you can probably look up the average inbreeding coefficient in the breed for yourself.
Inbreeding doesn't have a strict definition, so you can define it for yourself however you want. Maybe your definition matches the reality of the breed, or maybe it doesn't. Most people wouldn't use the word to describe the normal inbreeding coefficient of most breeds.
6:25
*But now his voice is imprisoned in the silent pathways of the night*
I never got hit so hard in my life
After I finished this video, my dog walked up to me and pawed my leg. IM CRYING
I feel you
It’s nice to hear the humanity of the Romans . This was a good presentation
Yes! But what have the Romans ever done for us!?
@@GaryArmstrongmacgh laid the foundation for modern Western Civilization
Have ye not ever watched a Monty Python movie? Life of Brian! They also laid the foundations of fascism. They stole land even from members of their upper class. They showed our modern 1% how to fuck every class below them! They only gave when it benefited them to hold power. When it didn't, they taxed the fuck out of you! Failing that, they crucified you! Personally, I'm glad my distant ancestors (Picts and German tribes) beat the crap out of them!
@@GaryArmstrongmacgh so... 1. Expand/how? 2. Provide evidence 3. Upper classes exploiting lower classes with their money has existed since the Phoenicians 4. Incorrect, there were several very good men in Roman politics over the years. Additionally, I believe retired members of the Roman army were given very good quality benefits post-service, such as land. 5. Taxes fluctuated frequently in the Roman empire as well as the republic, but I agree they were often too high or subjective 6. You couldn't fail to tax people, local law enforcement would simply come to your door and demand payment... 7. Crucifixion did occur, yes, as do and did several other forms of punishment by death and torture 8. The Germanic tribes only scored a few victories across the eras, with most of the important/significant ones occurring during the 4th and 5th centuries A.D., when the empire was split in two and on its way to falling.
I qualified all that. And evidently you haven't read Roman history very well. There was a period when the highest classes grabbed all the land they could from people who were weakest. As for the Roman Army, the best thing they ever did was when they stopped being asses and let the common man serve as career soldiers. This happened during the Republic. As the Empire came in, the situation for the lower classes became more and more critical. As for the military...Machiavelli 101, The Prince...you keep that power structure strong. It keeps you in power! By the time we reach the Empire, the taxes are horrendous. To debate Roman politics depends largely on what period you speak of. I speak largely of the period around Caesar and just after.
"Never again shall you give me a thousand kisses"
*sniffs*
God damn ninjas cutting onions... GO AWAY!
"You who pass this path, if you happen to see this monument, laugh not. Tears fell for me, and the dust was heaped above me by a master's hand"
Fuck. Now I'm crying.
I completly misunderstood the title and thought it was about how they petted a dog. And i thought it´s some holy ritual xD
Wickie LP I know me too. I was like wtf an entire video on how they pet dogs. And I was looking at the picture trying visualize the whole process for that moment lol.
I mean, have you ever pet a dog? It's quite the religious experience.
True
Well, to be fair, how to pet a dog was also described in the video.
The holiest.
These are my dogs, Deerslayer and Spot.
Mine is Greedy. Cause she is a greedy little brat (terrier)
This is Cerberus. He is spotted.
I call mine Aegon... Yes, after GoT... He's not "noble" but thinks he rules the house...
He's a good big puppers...
I'm crying
This reminds me of all the pets I've lost... both cat and dog and even rabbit...
Rest in peace Blue-eye, Buzzy, Cindy, Fuzzy, Charlie, Hopper, Sunshine, Phoebe, and Buddy.
I love you all and always will.
Sally Chaos Aura I fell you
Please accept my deepest condolences on the passing of your dear sweet pets, Blue-eye, Buzzy, Cindy, Fuzzy, Charlie, Hopper, Sunshine, Phoebe, and Buddy 😭
The dogs named Shaggy were the most powerful
Yesssss
Only 2% of his ultimate "good boy" powers
Ah yes the shaggy meme
I guess they were *boombastic* bois
The best hunting dog out there.
THAT was a tear jerker. Now I miss my dog. Beautiful video, Invicta.
My dog was sitting next to me while, you were reading those messages. I hugged him so hard. He seemed very confused, I love him so much. Sure, he cant tell the difference between a rabbit, and a rock. However, I wouldn't give him up for anything.
He is just a very good boy! He is blessed to have you as his human.
Omg I was like "well this looks like a neat video" all happy and optimistic and then by the end I'm on the couch cuddling my dog and crying...was not prepared! :,(
Yea to
4:18 Cave Canem = Beware of the dog
more like "attention! dog" right?
Humphrey Xy Yeah, my Latin is a little rusty.
Cave is is imperative. So it's more like. "Be beware of the dog!"
But "Beware of the dog" is a good translation to, because it is the phrase used now a days as well as being close to the original.
And I think "attention! dog" is not the best translation, because it isn't a a sentence and cave comes closer to, to be beware of, then it comes to attention!
Henrique Maximo doge
+FactoryofRedstone
Beware probably evolved from "be wary", so I guess it already kind of is imperative
Today I learned that we're going to have to put down my family dog. I've been in tears on and off all day but it's comforting knowing that people both from today and thousands of years ago share this same sorrow. Farewell, Biscuit. What a loved companion we have lost.
The drawing for the dogs are cute
Whoa I didn't know my comment got a lot of likes, this is the first time for me
Jose C, yeah Deerslayer is a very epic name for a dog.
U r toooo 😉😉😉😉😘😘😘😘
GRRRROOOOOF!!!!!! GROOOOF!!!!!! GGHGGRRRAWARAWR😭😭😭
And you best fuckin' believe they were all good boys.
I remember in high school and college classes that a lot of teachers and professors were insistent that people of antiquity didn't own "pets", and that pets weren't really invented until the industrial revolution, because they only had animals if they worked for a living. Well, yes, they tended to be more useful animals beyond "hang around your living space just because" but that didn't mean that people didn't enjoy their pets in the same way people of modern times do? Like how does a historian assume this kind of social instinct just didn't happen?
Obviously ancient people DID love their companion pets. There are hundreds of pet graves with epithets.
I remember when we were reading the Odyssey in High school my English teacher admitted she teared up every time at the scene with Odysseus's dog, when he sees him for the last time after waiting faithfully for years and then dies.
Wow what a load of rubbish. People have had pets for millenia, there is evidence for it all over. Even thousands of years before the romans.
A lot of teachers and profs have a lot of misinformation to answer for.
@@The_Order_Of_William_Marshal The teacher meant pets as "companion animals" who do nothing. That teacher meant ancient pets were house animals kept only if they did something... like hunting or guard dogs, or mouse hunting cats.
Which is WRONG of course. LAP DOGS existed for millenia as well as cats in ancient egypt were loved and I do DOUBT that any cat belonging to any rich merchant or noble would have to hunt rats. Quite the contrary. Being lap cats these people wanted them as clean and healthy as possible, and they probably ate and lived better than most peasant population.
They obviously never read the Odessy (see above) or been to a Roman Tomb.
"Never barked without reason, but now is silent"
STWAP
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Edit, no, keeps going
My cat is purring so loudly trying to cheer me up 😂💕💕💕
AWW, I hope that you have many long and happy years with your dear sweet kitty😻
CATS CANNOT BE GOOD BOYS REEEEEEE
@@DWLip But they can be caring companions....
I'm not crying... YOU'RE CRYING!!! I've just got something in my eye.
Nah I'm just sweating from my eyes.
Some dust was heaped above me by a Master's Hand
We both crying
What's there to cry about?
Talking about dogs dying :(
Dog were, still are, and hopefully will remain to be, the best things to have existed ever.
I'm crying. My dog passed away a few months ago, and finally, I had the opportunity to get a new little girl last month. Her name is Clio, which is Greek for celebration. The joy of a bond with a dog is so pure and human. I'm really glad that that never goes away.
Sorry for ur loss, dude! I Lost my girl in February and reading those memorials wasn't easy.
I live in Dublin and i love to go to the mountains with my lurchers. The Irish/Scottish hunting hounds are so beautiful, elegant, funny and zany. I always imagine that people just like me have walked the same paths with dogs just like mine for thousands of years.
I wonder, in researching for this, did you happen to hear about the Egyptian tomb that was found that had hieroglyphs recording the names of the deceased guy's hunting hounds? Apparently, one was called 'Blackie', one was called 'Useless', and his favourite (i'm guessing) was called 'He Who is Fashioned as an Arrow'! Just amazing stuff!
You've managed to cover 2 of my 3 favourite things in the world here; Roman history and the history of the domestic dog! Absolutely super video! I'm hoping you will do one on the music of ancient Rome at some stage and that will be my 3rd favourite thing covered!
My dog passed in February as well, just short of 12 years since we had gotten her. :(
fizpop01 I'm sorry to hear that. I still think about my Éalú every day
Best dog I ever had was a heeler crossed with a wolf hound - never short on love and loyalty was Miss Gracie May
Still curious about ye olden Roman traffic laws, surely you can't park your carriage anywhere, or race through streets?
I think it was illegal to drive carts through Rome (the city) during the day and so they had to do all the shipping during the nights. Apparently the noise pissed off a lot of residents.
Fat Tiger umm, was it better for the noise to occur when they were sleeping?
Staffaynu, it wasn't, but at least in Early Imperial times Rome had quite a lot of an overpopulation problem. There's imperial edicts where the emperors relentlessly destroyed all the abusive commercial activities in the streets stating it was the only way to free some space for the (too many) people walking. Carts during the day would have made the traffic problem worse.
See, and that is actually really interesting, to me. Cheers for the educational bit
I remember there being a dedicated group of people who’s job was it to clear the street by ALL means. Which included them just straight up confiscating property if it was wrongfully on the street.
I'm glad the creator said that bit towards the end.. I though I was the only one who found these ancient, affectionate messages to pets to be emotionally powerful lol
I didn’t come here to cry
I clicked in with the excitement of learning and ended early with a heavy heart.
"I have to appreciate that this shared loss puts me in touch with someone from thousands of years ago tons degree that is impossible any other way." Wow that is a beautiful quote and so true.
This truly did bring tears to my eyes. Somehow i always saw people of the past as colder sort, people who would give no thought of a dogs life and well being.
This was truly beautiful thank you, it brought me back to earlier times with my old dog. Better times now long gone.
I'll always miss him.
The narrator was so exited about the names, I kind of heard him say “deerslayer” in a very happy tone, like he was smiling because of how funny it is. I love it 11/10
My family dog just died last night and I find this video comforting. Dogs are loved and it’s beautiful how it spans across time and space that love connecting people from so very different worlds