As a local guitarist of slightly above average skill, and minor repute, I am here to be angry and indignified over the lack of (my) inclusion on this list.
With the Dime thing, I'm not going to make excuses for him to using that word. All I'm going to say is that his path to redemption was cut off. Mike Williams from Eyehategod used to wear rebel flags, but he has since denounced them because he does not like the way people feel when they see it. Something he said he knew nothing about until he took a trip to New York and someone told him what it meant to the rest of the country. Dime didn't get that opportunity to learn what that word meant to people not in his vacuum. I think if he was alive today, he would not have been impressed with himself in that moment. He would likely denounce that video and his use of that word. Unfortunately, that opportunity was taken from him, so I don't really see the value of judging Dime in the early 2000s through the lens of today. Especially since he is no longer here. People are complicated. Good people can do awful things. Bad people can do great things.
Amen, man. I think in this modern day and age, we have forgotten as a society that people are so damn complicated. We have lost nuance. I honestly don't think Dimebag was a racist but was just a good-old-boy who grew up saying things he didn't really understand or conceive to be racist and they just became a part of his own personal vernacular, but never meant them in a way that he intended to hurt anyone. I'm not saying being from Texas is an excuse but I've known LOTS of white people in this state who have always been cool with me being Hispanic and with people of other races and who I consider to be great friends but still love the idea of "southern" pride and ways of living. It's complicated and messy but I've known many people like Dimebag that are honestly good people who just say the wrong shit carelessly but without hate or malice.
@@PeteOliva Yeah, I agree. A lot of people don't realize that the Confederate flag wasn't as offensive then as it is now. The shift happened after the riot in Charlottesville. Before that, yes, racists used it as a symbol of racism, but a lot of southern boys just saw it as a symbol of the south. Especially after Lynyrd Skynard used it so much in their imagery. The thing about Dime, he filmed everything. He always had a camera with him. And out of all of the hours of film we have on him, this is the only indiscretion. And the hypocrisy hasn't escaped me. You couldn't play XBox live back in the day without some white dude using that word, but now all of a sudden those people disappeared, and now they clutch their pearls when they hear someone say it, lol.
100% Dude. I don’t condone his use of the word either, but he’s not here to defend himself/take responsibility/make amends etc. And the reason he’s not here is he had his brains blown out onstage 20 years ago. So to go after him in a video and refer to him as “not a cool person” is kind of odd imho. Based on every fan encounter I’ve ever read, Dime was said to be one of the kindest, good-hearted people in music.
Dear Lord, It's just a word. How tf did we as a society get here? What matters is the context of the words we use: was he saying it as an insult at a black guy's face? And let's not forget the double standard; thousands of tiktok videos out there of BLM supporters being ostentatiously racist, but it's no big deal. Do we seek equality or revenge?
Please do a part 2 and include the fact that during their album recording session, John Petrucci was casually out hosting a barbeque outside. Man is an S tier guitarist, amazing player and he can grill.
And Dimebag is most definitely invited to the BBQ. I’m not excusing use of the hard R, it is not okay. But newsflash, I’m willing to bet every single one of those old school metal dudes from the 80s-90s threw around the hard R or have at the very least used it before. Saying he wasn’t a good person just because he said that is a bit far I think. Again, not saying it’s okay. But i have literally never heard a single person who met dime regardless of race or what have you has ever had a bad word to say about the guy. You could say that’s because of how he died, but people don’t have all nice things to say about Lennon (for good reason) and he went out almost the same way.
@@ithaanmuhammad7908 not at all. It’s actually is a big disappointment because I love pantera but it makes me cringe to see. He’d absolutely deserve to get checked for it. But he’s making it sound like Dime was a piece of shit human being which I also don’t think is true necessarily. But am I really surprised that a guy from Texas that was born in the 60s casually throws that word around? No, I’d be more surprised if he didn’t tbh. But since Dime isn’t here to defend himself, I don’t think saying he’s he was a terrible person is very cool either. You missed the point of my comment entirely lol.
@@SupaSavage24 well he said the n word hard r there is literally no connotation where that’s anything but racist regardless of his background 😭😭😭. So idrgaf if he calls him a bad person cuz he is
@@ithaanmuhammad7908 congratulations, you’ve pieced together that using the most offensive word in the English language is never okay because it’s racist and racism bad 👏👏👏 what keen intellect you possess
No Mark Tremonti!? The dude was pretty much the pillar of the entire post modern grunge era (Nickelback, 3 Doors Down, Cold, Hinder, Three Days Grace, Breaking Benjamin, the list goes on). 3 successful bands (Creed, Alter Bridge, Tremonti, guest appearances, and an honorable mention to the Sinatra solo stuff). Influenced a large generation of modern guitarists and basically brought back the guitar solo on modern radio with "Open Your Eyes." Like wtf Finn?! But that aside, thanks for the list, it was fun.
Mark Tremonti ‘tremonster’ is such a technically skilled lead guitarist, who also plays iconic clean intros and awesome riffs! Add to that, he is legit humble and seemingly an all round nice guy, who doesn’t even try to be a glory hound. Great guitar player, and an awesome potential BBQ guest!
I love that you said that about Wes Borland. I was not a fan until literally about 3 months ago. A live show of the band came on and I saw his playing and went down a rabbit hole emerging a fan.
I remember when i saw Tim Hensen for the first time and i was like fuck you nobody that good at guitar is allowed to be that hot. He's supposed to be a short pudgy balding guy in his mid 40s.
@SIRebrum there is way too much vocals on City of Evil. I love Avenged Sevenfold and that album, but sometimes it feels like Matt wanted to show off how much better his singing voice got so he added stuff that probably wasn't necessary.
Until he rages about Trump cause he believes the lies coming from the msm smh. The country is in free fall amd the world on fire under democratic party yet he'd continue to vote for his own destruction rather than admit life was a million times better under Trump. And this comes from a lifelong Democrat who originally hated Trump til Biden stepped in...
Fav guitarist but no invite to the BBQ = F tier? Seems musical ability is very much secondary. Also, Dime was, by all reports, the nicest and most welcoming dude in any band no matter who you were.
Nobody has to make excuses for Dimebag because he's dead. Who knows what he'd be like here in 2024, maybe he grows into an upstanding bbq worthy human being. Then again maybe not. We still use Pantera as our NHL theme down here
My vote would be for Slash. His soulful style and the emotion he puts into every note, along with his proficiency, make him a cut above the rest. And he’s clean now, he would have some great stories for the barbecue. But better bring some extra burgers because I’m sure he can put down quite a few.
@@petergriffin4629I like how he was complaining about crybaby liberals in the beginning and then he literally became exactly that when talking about Dime and Dave Mustaine lmao
Part of me is sad that John Petrucci isn't here. The other part of me understands. Easy B-tier, maybe even A-tier: he's gonna show up, laugh at some jokes, talk about being a dad, bring some sodas and chips, and just generally bring the vibe of "High School Teacher, off the clock" to your party. Update: recent information has been brought in to make him S-tier. Grilling is an S-tier BBQ trait.
@@SIRebrum woah, not what I meant. My initial grading came from the fact that he's a great guitar player but a subdued personality. And I was willing to hear an argument for A tier, but then I was told that he's apparently a grill god, so he is S-tier.
Standing next to Tim would make me feel like such an insignificant human that I would instantly become spiritually enlightened and understand my exact place in the universe, or I would lose the will to ever do anything again.
David Gilmour is god. Not only is he an S-tier guitarist, he's an S-tier human being all around. He sold his entire guitar collection and donated ALL of the money to fighting climate change. His legendary Black Strat sold for over $4 MILLION USD to some NFL team owner. The man is pure class in every sense of the word.
I met Kerry in a vegas casino when I was like 16 years old. Guy couldn't have been cooler to some young kid approaching him and his lady while they were just trying to chill. He took a picture with me and gave me a hard slap on the back. Kerry will always be good with me
There’s so many underrated metal and deathcore guitarists, Joshua Travis for a perfect example, he was in Emmure, ghost cloud, Tony danza extravaganza and monuments.
Yeah, but. The problem is that in America are currently Reaganomics aren’t working for the people either. But if you suggest anything different to that you’re labeled at the communist. It’s a big giant Joe bro
@@1massboy hair splitting gets you know where. If you wave around a sickle and a hammer but try to distance yourself from the worst regimes in human history, you look dumb.
Dude has a Political Science degree from Harvard, he probably has a better grasp on Political structures than the average bear. Cause most Political structures work "on paper". There's just no way to realistically account for every extenuating circumstance that will effect a society.
Dimebag was friends with Scott Ian (jewish) and Rocky George (black dude). Plus, the video is from 20 years ago. I don't think he'd still saying shit like that nowadays. Anselmo did WAY WORST 8 years ago and he's now headlining arenas and festivals again. I think people have to stop with the Kerry bashing. Not only did he contribute riffs to several Slayer classics but he was also the sole rhythm guitar player heard on all their albums from Divine to Repentless. And that rebel-flag shirt can't be as bad as Hanneman's Nazi-flag in the Slayer jam room, look it up. How can Mustaine be a racist while having a black guitar-tech for ages?!? Plus I don't think Ice-T would collaborate twice with a racist white guy. Wes Borland, isn't that the dude who was at Manson's house when he was "allegedly" mistreating women but kept his mouth shut for 15 years until the allegations!?! This list was a little rough!!
@@LongLiveRockAnRoll Getting invited to the BBQ has little to do with guitar chops. DeLonge would not be on the S tier. I just commented so Finn is aware of the misinformed opinions he is voicing in this video. It happens.
I had the pleasure of hanging out with Dimebag on his tour bus a few years before he was killed. I watched him bring a black homeless dude on the bus and I watched him share his drinks with the guy before stuffing something like 500 bucks in his pocket before sending him off. Him using the "Hard R" toward a white guy does nothing to sway my opinion of his character. He's invited to every barbecue I ever throw
Wes is seriously underrated. His costumes were because he was a visual artist and had to stop when limp bizkit took off. So he got to use his art stuff on his costumes. As for the list, you missed per nillson and jeff loomis?
I know I'm being a stan here, but Tom Delonge is, in my opinion, legitimately influential. "I miss you" live on pepsi smash, or the "a letter to elise" cover, the way he transcends his technical inabilities with a couple of effect pedals on those performances in particular, is Morello level innovation. He did some truly groundbreaking stuff between 2003 and 2005.
Idk about calling Dave a racist based on what he said about Obama. I’d need more. There’s a difference between throwing the N word around and not liking/trusting or saying things about a politician.
Yeah never got the sense that Dave is racist. He's definitely into conspiracy theories though and hey that might actually make for some fun conversations at a BBQ
I used to think Tom Morello was a guitar god, then I learned to play and realized while he is very good at writing groove, he is an overrated player. His politics make me hate his guts. And his interviews seem like a Key and Peele sketch.
I think communism is about as cool as N@zism, but in terms of Tom Morello's guitar playing Rolling Stone notoriously thought his solo in 'Guerrilla Radio' was a harmonica.
Wes Borland would be really quiet and overly courteous at the barbecue. If you run out of ribs, he'd offer the ribs off his plate to people who already eaten more than him. Then during charades he'd go absolutely wild. Tim Henson would steal your wife and end up in a committed forty year marriage with her.
It'd be interesting to see if John Sykes (Whitesnake, Thin Lizzy, Tygers of Pan Tang, etc) would even appear. Heck you'd have to have a search party or milk carton of 'Have you seen me' to even contact him (and finish his solo album).
Finn forgot that Jeff Hanneman would collect German Nazi memorabilia and on one of his guitars on the neck he would have the SS logos 😆but killer guitarist and rip to him.
WWII memorabilia that includes nazbol stuff=cool WWII memorabilia that ONLY includes nazbol stuff=sketchy "I just like their fashion and style guys, I promise"
Every moment of dimes life was recorded and that's the worst we have. Now, let's expose everyone's personal secrets and you'd probably realize that dime was a Saint compared to you.
Putting dime and dave on the F tier... welp.. done watching your videos... if black people can say the n word all day long then it's just a word at this point... I dont use it myself but at the end of the day if it's so offensive then they wouldn't use it in every sentence themselves
I know I heard the bit about Dime and got sour faced the first time. I wish he would've lived to see and admit the error of his ways if he was truly racist (kinda hard to refute)
Not including our lord and savior, MGK, inventor of the guitar, and not obviously putting him in S tier is a crime against humanity. Any video you fail to recognize his holiness is a failure of a video. MGK bless your soul, because MGK is god who invented music and the light bulb and personally took down osama bin laden.
Dude that dimebag one is wild. Not one single person that has met the dude has said he's a bad dude. Nothing but good stories and laughs. Makes a joke in bad taste once and now he's an awful person? So let me ask you this, do you think Louis ck is racist? Because he has a joke where he says the N word, hard ER, multiple times, only difference being, he got laughs. Also with the guitar, yeah the confederate flag is a symbol of hate, but it's also just love for the south. He's dead so we will never truly know, but I doubt he was racist, and I'd say that guitar is more represented as the general Lee from the duke's of hazzard. When I was a kid growing up in the south, that flag was never once presented to me as anything else but a flag on an iconic orange charger. I wish that flag could just be love for the south, because it is a different way of life, but sadly the racist connection with the flag is what people immediately think when they see it. Also, the flag has been in multiple video games in the early 2000s that are rated e for everyone. Adventure quest even has it, and that was a flash game for kids. So at some point, the flag was OK, and now it's not again
Exactly ,So aggravating when people can just sit there and shit on a legends name when they have no clue the kind of person he was, all you have you have to do is watch a couple interviews or the home videos of dimebag and you can easily see how great and nice a person he was. It sucks the world has came to this shit.
Finn: "How are we still having this conversation?" Almost every popular song of the last 30 years: "n***a n***a n***a n***a n***a n***a n***a n***a n***a"
@JoeBlanton-wq3sm ...and it's not that big of a deal. Sorry, just not. Maybe promote the word through black music a little less, and we wouldn't be here 🤷
Ok, we're getting quite far through the video. Something is wrong if Mick Thompson and Jim Root aren't included. They work off each other perfectly, Disasterpiece from the Disasterpieces DVD for example. All the noises they make into intros and tracks. Surfacing is another great one, and The Heretic Anthem where Mick is playing and then Jim slides in to join (All Disasterpieces)
Me: my father was in a Soviet labor camp. His neighbor snitched on him for owning a pair of American jeans. It was dark and we narrowly escaped after the state collapsed. Tom Morello: “ACKHYUALLY….”
@@sole__doubt no kidding. if you want guitarists with actual talent that use strange devices, then VanHalen and Frampton were several leagues above Morello in the talent department.
@@fu102 Yeah I dont think Finn even plays so I dont know why he thinks he can judge players. You dont hear me saying who the best drummer is because I dont play the drums so I dont know what Im talking about.
You mention that the start of the video that viewers seem to more interested in guitars than boobies .. May I suggest you do a tier list of best and worst boobies and we'll see in real time if the reaction is more on the outrage side of things or another reaction ..?
John Mayer is interesting. His fans is in the intersection between mainstream, guitar nerd, music nerd, and become cult artist. Skillwise heis one of the very best, personality wise sober John Mayer seems like really cool person
Would loved to have seen your thoughts on Mark Tremonti…there’s Creed (hated immensely, but were huge, and having a huge resurgence), Alter Bridge (where his guitar work is god-tier…dude can shred), and Tremonti (which shows off his thrashier side).
Why is Lil Wayne missing from this list?
Waycism!
This list is about mere mortals. Lil wayne is a god of guitar
Air guitar doesn't count. Otherwise Bill and Ted would be S tier.
This is why I shouldn’t read the comments as I watch! 😡😤🤬😖😣😠👿😾. 😆
You just disappointed me before I even started the video, thanks bro.....
This list is cap. The real way to rank guitarists is by the amount of pedals.
Less is more.
Same goes for drummers
Here's the thing..
By pure definition, more is more good sir. @GuitarGuy4647
Cue a list of shoegaze guitarists that nobody knows by name
Finn has two moods: Nu Metal and hating Tom Morello
While looking and dressing like him
The perfect combination
Sounds like a real man.
@@rsombrero97 Tom Morello hates nu metal
If Frusciante comes to the barbecue, be prepared for him to crash at your house for a week.
Most homeless rich guy to ever live
Frusciante in but Morello out?
and if he brings Anthony, make sure you hide your kids
this is a comment for the sake of engagement.
It’s not much but it’s honest work
I do !
I disagree!
This is a reply to further the engagement
This is the dawning of the age of Aquarius
As a local guitarist of slightly above average skill, and minor repute, I am here to be angry and indignified over the lack of (my) inclusion on this list.
Do you get paid in IPAs?
You happen to be from Gallatin County, or Bozeman to be more specific? 😅 do we know each other maybe? 🤘🎶🏴☠️
I had you at a solid B.
@@us3l3ssknowl3dg3
No, i am really into imperial stouts, you wouldn't really know about them.
@@MichaelBrown-ff3go
Yes, right on the border of Kentucky and Louisiana tristate.
Tim Henson looks like the chiseled Squidward from that one episode when Squidward was hot
Yes, but somehow still an infinity better looking version.
Ive seen a ton of girls who look like tim Henson
Tim Henson is the best Japanese woman to pick up a guitar.
He looks like a gorgeous woman
it's Handsome Squidward
With the Dime thing, I'm not going to make excuses for him to using that word. All I'm going to say is that his path to redemption was cut off. Mike Williams from Eyehategod used to wear rebel flags, but he has since denounced them because he does not like the way people feel when they see it. Something he said he knew nothing about until he took a trip to New York and someone told him what it meant to the rest of the country. Dime didn't get that opportunity to learn what that word meant to people not in his vacuum. I think if he was alive today, he would not have been impressed with himself in that moment. He would likely denounce that video and his use of that word. Unfortunately, that opportunity was taken from him, so I don't really see the value of judging Dime in the early 2000s through the lens of today. Especially since he is no longer here. People are complicated. Good people can do awful things. Bad people can do great things.
Amen, man. I think in this modern day and age, we have forgotten as a society that people are so damn complicated. We have lost nuance.
I honestly don't think Dimebag was a racist but was just a good-old-boy who grew up saying things he didn't really understand or conceive to be racist and they just became a part of his own personal vernacular, but never meant them in a way that he intended to hurt anyone.
I'm not saying being from Texas is an excuse but I've known LOTS of white people in this state who have always been cool with me being Hispanic and with people of other races and who I consider to be great friends but still love the idea of "southern" pride and ways of living.
It's complicated and messy but I've known many people like Dimebag that are honestly good people who just say the wrong shit carelessly but without hate or malice.
@@PeteOliva Yeah, I agree. A lot of people don't realize that the Confederate flag wasn't as offensive then as it is now. The shift happened after the riot in Charlottesville. Before that, yes, racists used it as a symbol of racism, but a lot of southern boys just saw it as a symbol of the south. Especially after Lynyrd Skynard used it so much in their imagery. The thing about Dime, he filmed everything. He always had a camera with him. And out of all of the hours of film we have on him, this is the only indiscretion. And the hypocrisy hasn't escaped me. You couldn't play XBox live back in the day without some white dude using that word, but now all of a sudden those people disappeared, and now they clutch their pearls when they hear someone say it, lol.
100% Dude. I don’t condone his use of the word either, but he’s not here to defend himself/take responsibility/make amends etc. And the reason he’s not here is he had his brains blown out onstage 20 years ago. So to go after him in a video and refer to him as “not a cool person” is kind of odd imho. Based on every fan encounter I’ve ever read, Dime was said to be one of the kindest, good-hearted people in music.
That's a lotta words
Dear Lord, It's just a word. How tf did we as a society get here? What matters is the context of the words we use: was he saying it as an insult at a black guy's face? And let's not forget the double standard; thousands of tiktok videos out there of BLM supporters being ostentatiously racist, but it's no big deal. Do we seek equality or revenge?
Tom DeLonge would ABSOLUTELY be invited to my BBQ!
He would think HE'S the host and do all the cooking, serving and entertaining!
But what does he have to do with a video about guitarists?
@@needfoolthings He is Blink's guitarist and has honestly written some great riffs over the years.
Where is Jerry Cantrell😭😭😭😭
So far above this list he can't even see the list!
He’s hosting his own bbq and he’s on the grill 👍
@@HiroBrown I want to go to HIS BBQ
I’ve actually met Jerry, he’s a cool and chill guy. Our interaction was like 30 seconds but still
"Is Tom Morello invited to the BBQ? Absolutely fucking not." 🤣
His delivery was perfect
I wasn't expecting him to say that 😂😂😂
Tim Henson is the guy that will show up for a couple hours and leave before you bring out the S’mores because of some cooler event he has to get to
if only tim henson was actually cool
You can poke this BBQ, I'd rather go down the pub with Dave, Kerry and Dimebag. Nobody wants Tom Morello around them lol
Please do a part 2 and include the fact that during their album recording session, John Petrucci was casually out hosting a barbeque outside. Man is an S tier guitarist, amazing player and he can grill.
And Dimebag is most definitely invited to the BBQ. I’m not excusing use of the hard R, it is not okay. But newsflash, I’m willing to bet every single one of those old school metal dudes from the 80s-90s threw around the hard R or have at the very least used it before. Saying he wasn’t a good person just because he said that is a bit far I think. Again, not saying it’s okay. But i have literally never heard a single person who met dime regardless of race or what have you has ever had a bad word to say about the guy. You could say that’s because of how he died, but people don’t have all nice things to say about Lennon (for good reason) and he went out almost the same way.
Just say u racist gang
@@ithaanmuhammad7908 not at all. It’s actually is a big disappointment because I love pantera but it makes me cringe to see. He’d absolutely deserve to get checked for it. But he’s making it sound like Dime was a piece of shit human being which I also don’t think is true necessarily. But am I really surprised that a guy from Texas that was born in the 60s casually throws that word around? No, I’d be more surprised if he didn’t tbh. But since Dime isn’t here to defend himself, I don’t think saying he’s he was a terrible person is very cool either. You missed the point of my comment entirely lol.
@@SupaSavage24 well he said the n word hard r there is literally no connotation where that’s anything but racist regardless of his background 😭😭😭. So idrgaf if he calls him a bad person cuz he is
@@ithaanmuhammad7908 congratulations, you’ve pieced together that using the most offensive word in the English language is never okay because it’s racist and racism bad 👏👏👏 what keen intellect you possess
@@ithaanmuhammad7908 It's just a word. You can't scream, cry, and throw a tantrum just because somebody said something offensive
No Mark Tremonti!? The dude was pretty much the pillar of the entire post modern grunge era (Nickelback, 3 Doors Down, Cold, Hinder, Three Days Grace, Breaking Benjamin, the list goes on). 3 successful bands (Creed, Alter Bridge, Tremonti, guest appearances, and an honorable mention to the Sinatra solo stuff). Influenced a large generation of modern guitarists and basically brought back the guitar solo on modern radio with "Open Your Eyes." Like wtf Finn?! But that aside, thanks for the list, it was fun.
Tremonti is so damn Good.
He's even a Good Singer I'd say.
Mark Tremonti ‘tremonster’ is such a technically skilled lead guitarist, who also plays iconic clean intros and awesome riffs!
Add to that, he is legit humble and seemingly an all round nice guy, who doesn’t even try to be a glory hound. Great guitar player, and an awesome potential BBQ guest!
@@RB-oc7ti *Clean Intros* Yess ... His *Intros* are probably my Favorite Guitar Intros of all time
Tremonti is an S-tier guitarist. Your comment was spot-on
I know nickel back but i don't. Know any of these obscure bands. I know he has a PRS model.
I think Mateus Asato and Tosin Abasi sprinted so Tim Henson could move at supersonic speed
I love that you said that about Wes Borland. I was not a fan until literally about 3 months ago. A live show of the band came on and I saw his playing and went down a rabbit hole emerging a fan.
I remember when i saw Tim Hensen for the first time and i was like fuck you nobody that good at guitar is allowed to be that hot. He's supposed to be a short pudgy balding guy in his mid 40s.
Exactly!
He still has time to become the archetype.
I really love the "who is invited to the BBQ" lists you do, Finn.
I like them a lot too
Tom would make everyone bring something of equal value to the BBQ
Based?
Awesome
the entire segment on Tim Henson is the most I've laughed on this channel so far
*Synyster Gates* is def. *S* Tier
His Solos got Soul
*Roman Sky* still gives me Goosebumps 🔥
The Stage is their greatest work and it’s not even close
@@PigglyWigglyDeluxe *City of Evil* is the competition for me.
@@PigglyWigglyDeluxe I meant *Guitar* work, Vocals I disliked the Nasal Part Shadows did.
@SIRebrum there is way too much vocals on City of Evil. I love Avenged Sevenfold and that album, but sometimes it feels like Matt wanted to show off how much better his singing voice got so he added stuff that probably wasn't necessary.
@@mastod0n1 Could be lol.
Tom would show up the BBQ and demand that you know who he is, and then slap an old lady for wearing a Maga hat.
Say my name, say my name
This barbecue is kinda ass not gonna lie.
I’m actually friends with a friend of Tom morello and have hung out with him. He’s actually a really fun hang.
Until he rages about Trump cause he believes the lies coming from the msm smh. The country is in free fall amd the world on fire under democratic party yet he'd continue to vote for his own destruction rather than admit life was a million times better under Trump. And this comes from a lifelong Democrat who originally hated Trump til Biden stepped in...
Didn’t mention Mustaine’s guitar abilities, skipped straight to bbq acceptance…his guitar abilities are legitimately Top Tier sh**
Fav guitarist but no invite to the BBQ = F tier? Seems musical ability is very much secondary. Also, Dime was, by all reports, the nicest and most welcoming dude in any band no matter who you were.
Nobody has to make excuses for Dimebag because he's dead. Who knows what he'd be like here in 2024, maybe he grows into an upstanding bbq worthy human being. Then again maybe not. We still use Pantera as our NHL theme down here
My vote would be for Slash. His soulful style and the emotion he puts into every note, along with his proficiency, make him a cut above the rest. And he’s clean now, he would have some great stories for the barbecue. But better bring some extra burgers because I’m sure he can put down quite a few.
Dunno, he's not a great talker, bit of an introvert, he would've been a lot more fun in his drinking days
That take on dime is mind blisteringly dumb.
Agreed he shoulda been more objective why rank guitarist as people and not as artists?
@@someone7068 also as a person there is nothing to be said against dime
@@petergriffin4629I like how he was complaining about crybaby liberals in the beginning and then he literally became exactly that when talking about Dime and Dave Mustaine lmao
@@cosmicbro1973 yes, I really don't get it. I thought we had this shit behind us
Part of me is sad that John Petrucci isn't here.
The other part of me understands.
Easy B-tier, maybe even A-tier: he's gonna show up, laugh at some jokes, talk about being a dad, bring some sodas and chips, and just generally bring the vibe of "High School Teacher, off the clock" to your party.
Update: recent information has been brought in to make him S-tier. Grilling is an S-tier BBQ trait.
He's actually S tier if you saw the documentary about the recording of Distance over Time or the music video for Untethered Angel. The man can grill!
John Petrucci is *B* Tier WTF ?
Man's got ridiculous Guitar Skills, at least has to be *S+* Tier
@@SIRebrum woah, not what I meant.
My initial grading came from the fact that he's a great guitar player but a subdued personality. And I was willing to hear an argument for A tier, but then I was told that he's apparently a grill god, so he is S-tier.
@@GreaterSeraph *S+*
Standing next to Tim would make me feel like such an insignificant human that I would instantly become spiritually enlightened and understand my exact place in the universe, or I would lose the will to ever do anything again.
Brother he's just good at playing the guitar he's not a deity. It'll be ok lol
David Gilmour is god. Not only is he an S-tier guitarist, he's an S-tier human being all around. He sold his entire guitar collection and donated ALL of the money to fighting climate change. His legendary Black Strat sold for over $4 MILLION USD to some NFL team owner.
The man is pure class in every sense of the word.
You should've done *Mark Tremonti*
I randomly ran into Kerry King last week in NYC at a bar and he was chill af… and I’m a minority.
Yes I met Kerry aswel back in 2002
I met Kerry in a vegas casino when I was like 16 years old. Guy couldn't have been cooler to some young kid approaching him and his lady while they were just trying to chill. He took a picture with me and gave me a hard slap on the back. Kerry will always be good with me
I've heard a lot of stories that he's a good dude. Definitely different from his media persona.
I met Tom DeLonge once. I brought up U.F.O.'s once and he would not disclose anything of the topic
There’s so many underrated metal and deathcore guitarists, Joshua Travis for a perfect example, he was in Emmure, ghost cloud, Tony danza extravaganza and monuments.
Tom Morello is certainly the "Communism works in theory" guy
Yeah, but. The problem is that in America are currently Reaganomics aren’t working for the people either. But if you suggest anything different to that you’re labeled at the communist.
It’s a big giant Joe bro
@@1massboy hair splitting gets you know where. If you wave around a sickle and a hammer but try to distance yourself from the worst regimes in human history, you look dumb.
Dude has a Political Science degree from Harvard, he probably has a better grasp on Political structures than the average bear.
Cause most Political structures work "on paper". There's just no way to realistically account for every extenuating circumstance that will effect a society.
@@christiankoll1528 Like I said he is the "communism works in theory" guy
He’s more like the “Lockheed Martin says trans rights” guy.
0:25 Hey! My guitar has beautiful curves, it hugs me just right.
Dimebag was friends with Scott Ian (jewish) and Rocky George (black dude). Plus, the video is from 20 years ago. I don't think he'd still saying shit like that nowadays. Anselmo did WAY WORST 8 years ago and he's now headlining arenas and festivals again.
I think people have to stop with the Kerry bashing. Not only did he contribute riffs to several Slayer classics but he was also the sole rhythm guitar player heard on all their albums from Divine to Repentless. And that rebel-flag shirt can't be as bad as Hanneman's Nazi-flag in the Slayer jam room, look it up.
How can Mustaine be a racist while having a black guitar-tech for ages?!? Plus I don't think Ice-T would collaborate twice with a racist white guy.
Wes Borland, isn't that the dude who was at Manson's house when he was "allegedly" mistreating women but kept his mouth shut for 15 years until the allegations!?!
This list was a little rough!!
Also, even if Dimebag still did act like that, it takes away from his guitar skills how?
Womp womp
@@LongLiveRockAnRoll Getting invited to the BBQ has little to do with guitar chops. DeLonge would not be on the S tier.
I just commented so Finn is aware of the misinformed opinions he is voicing in this video. It happens.
The classic "I have a black friend, how can I be racist?"
Agreed, I've noticed the way this guy talks he is definitely woke ASF sadly.
People can't get shit-faced there? What's even the point of having a barbecue then?
Still waiting for the BBQ with Finn Show.
I had the pleasure of hanging out with Dimebag on his tour bus a few years before he was killed.
I watched him bring a black homeless dude on the bus and I watched him share his drinks with the guy before stuffing something like 500 bucks in his pocket before sending him off.
Him using the "Hard R" toward a white guy does nothing to sway my opinion of his character.
He's invited to every barbecue I ever throw
Tim Henson is a real life anime character
Wes is seriously underrated. His costumes were because he was a visual artist and had to stop when limp bizkit took off. So he got to use his art stuff on his costumes. As for the list, you missed per nillson and jeff loomis?
You are 💯 on Morello. No one wants a Debbie downer at their BBQ
You know you've made it when you've been invited to an infamous Finn McKenty tier list barbeque
Lol my mom testified against Fruiscante and Keidis in the 90s for sexual harassment against another college student
Where does this live stream happen?
Twitch
Thanks for posting today, Finn. I needed this today, brother. 👊
I know I'm being a stan here, but Tom Delonge is, in my opinion, legitimately influential. "I miss you" live on pepsi smash, or the "a letter to elise" cover, the way he transcends his technical inabilities with a couple of effect pedals on those performances in particular, is Morello level innovation. He did some truly groundbreaking stuff between 2003 and 2005.
It would be cool to just do a tier list about awesome BBQ guests and nothing else. It would be the top of the tier list for tier lists.
Idk about calling Dave a racist based on what he said about Obama. I’d need more. There’s a difference between throwing the N word around and not liking/trusting or saying things about a politician.
Yeah never got the sense that Dave is racist. He's definitely into conspiracy theories though and hey that might actually make for some fun conversations at a BBQ
Dave had black guitar tech for years and is very good friend with ice-t. this guy is stup.d @@lcrawfo2
I used to think Tom Morello was a guitar god, then I learned to play and realized while he is very good at writing groove, he is an overrated player. His politics make me hate his guts. And his interviews seem like a Key and Peele sketch.
this
But he scratches his guitar strings for a turn table sound.. he's the best ever..
1000% agreed. He’s a D tier player at best and a triple f tier personality.
His politics aren't really a problem compared to how much of a hypocrite he is
Good list. Good topic. Maybe do keytaruists next
Tom Morello like the Steve Urkle of guitarists. I wouldn't invite him to my BBQ either.
Hey Finn, have you watched the full NAAM/Dimebag video for context?
Kirk Hammet seems like he might be fun
Talking comics and horror movies
I would love to see a ranking of drummers next!
I think communism is about as cool as N@zism, but in terms of Tom Morello's guitar playing Rolling Stone notoriously thought his solo in 'Guerrilla Radio' was a harmonica.
I love ALL your tier lists Finn, never stop them. Just hilarious.
as a black guy, and dimebag being my favorite guitarist I had no idea he said that, but looking back I'm not too surprised, just disappointed
Does it bother you? It's just a word.
@@lidiaspazzardit's more than just a word. It's a respect issue.
@@lidiaspazzard I feel people who say its just a word, are incredibly tone deaf to the context and history of it.
@@peter6914 those people are usually jealous, edgy tryhards, or racist. Not surprising to see in the metal scene, unfortunately.
@@lidiaspazzard idc he's already dead, it's just disappointing
Tim Henson looks like his voice would crack when you confront him in his fishnet shirt
I'm pretty sure Tom Morello has a hammer and sycle on his guitar to pick at overly sensitive right wingers.
Wes Borland would be really quiet and overly courteous at the barbecue. If you run out of ribs, he'd offer the ribs off his plate to people who already eaten more than him. Then during charades he'd go absolutely wild.
Tim Henson would steal your wife and end up in a committed forty year marriage with her.
i sleep with my guitar mostly bcuz im too lazy to put it back in the case
I love you brother! You're list is amazering😊
Dude you should make your logo a shark fin. That’d be a badass nickname lol
😂😂😂
It should be the shark fin, followed by the Mcdonalds arch + Ken from street fighter + a golf tee
And incorporate “Here’s the thing.”
It'd be interesting to see if John Sykes (Whitesnake, Thin Lizzy, Tygers of Pan Tang, etc) would even appear. Heck you'd have to have a search party or milk carton of 'Have you seen me' to even contact him (and finish his solo album).
Finn forgot that Jeff Hanneman would collect German Nazi memorabilia and on one of his guitars on the neck he would have the SS logos 😆but killer guitarist and rip to him.
WWII memorabilia that includes nazbol stuff=cool
WWII memorabilia that ONLY includes nazbol stuff=sketchy
"I just like their fashion and style guys, I promise"
You guys have lost the point of everything.
Finn after you do videos like this you should post little polls on the community page for us to vote who we think should get to come too.
I wouldn’t want you at my bbq. ✊🏾
Every moment of dimes life was recorded and that's the worst we have. Now, let's expose everyone's personal secrets and you'd probably realize that dime was a Saint compared to you.
Putting dime and dave on the F tier... welp.. done watching your videos... if black people can say the n word all day long then it's just a word at this point... I dont use it myself but at the end of the day if it's so offensive then they wouldn't use it in every sentence themselves
Is this a Reupload? I am having a huge dose of deja vu watching this!
The sysnister Gates dad chat and Kerry king chat seems super familiar?!
I know I heard the bit about Dime and got sour faced the first time. I wish he would've lived to see and admit the error of his ways if he was truly racist (kinda hard to refute)
Not including our lord and savior, MGK, inventor of the guitar, and not obviously putting him in S tier is a crime against humanity. Any video you fail to recognize his holiness is a failure of a video. MGK bless your soul, because MGK is god who invented music and the light bulb and personally took down osama bin laden.
Amen
@@timesh7701 🙏
Dude that dimebag one is wild. Not one single person that has met the dude has said he's a bad dude. Nothing but good stories and laughs. Makes a joke in bad taste once and now he's an awful person? So let me ask you this, do you think Louis ck is racist? Because he has a joke where he says the N word, hard ER, multiple times, only difference being, he got laughs. Also with the guitar, yeah the confederate flag is a symbol of hate, but it's also just love for the south. He's dead so we will never truly know, but I doubt he was racist, and I'd say that guitar is more represented as the general Lee from the duke's of hazzard. When I was a kid growing up in the south, that flag was never once presented to me as anything else but a flag on an iconic orange charger. I wish that flag could just be love for the south, because it is a different way of life, but sadly the racist connection with the flag is what people immediately think when they see it. Also, the flag has been in multiple video games in the early 2000s that are rated e for everyone. Adventure quest even has it, and that was a flash game for kids. So at some point, the flag was OK, and now it's not again
Exactly ,So aggravating when people can just sit there and shit on a legends name when they have no clue the kind of person he was, all you have you have to do is watch a couple interviews or the home videos of dimebag and you can easily see how great and nice a person he was. It sucks the world has came to this shit.
You had me until you put Dimebag at F tier I respect your opinion but you're wrong
This commenter tunes his guitar to Hard R
HA!
Yeah Pantera is F tier but dime is B tier
Dime shit just fucked me up. Was a HUGE fan until today. Been playing Pantera songs since I was 12. Would he have autographed MY guitar?
Finn you should do a show titled "THE BARBEQUE"
“Dave Mustaine silent on the topic of Metallica” lol
Yea what the hell this dude don't know shit.
Where is Muhammed Suicmez, guys from LoG, Tom Searle, Trey Azagthoth, Matt Bellamy, Dino Cazares and many others?
Finn: "How are we still having this conversation?"
Almost every popular song of the last 30 years: "n***a n***a n***a n***a n***a n***a n***a n***a n***a"
Ik plenty of white dudes who say it to each other.
@JoeBlanton-wq3sm ...and it's not that big of a deal. Sorry, just not. Maybe promote the word through black music a little less, and we wouldn't be here 🤷
Ok, we're getting quite far through the video. Something is wrong if Mick Thompson and Jim Root aren't included. They work off each other perfectly, Disasterpiece from the Disasterpieces DVD for example. All the noises they make into intros and tracks. Surfacing is another great one, and The Heretic Anthem where Mick is playing and then Jim slides in to join (All Disasterpieces)
Me: my father was in a Soviet labor camp. His neighbor snitched on him for owning a pair of American jeans. It was dark and we narrowly escaped after the state collapsed.
Tom Morello: “ACKHYUALLY….”
Is there a guitar teir list?
I didnt even know you played the guitar.
hes empedastlement
Finn: people that want to have conversations about real shit? Fuck that. I want surface-level conversations at my gatherings.
Do you want tom morello coming to the barbecue? Absolutely fucking NOT
Hes the most over rated guitar player I can think of.
@@sole__doubt no kidding. if you want guitarists with actual talent that use strange devices, then VanHalen and Frampton were several leagues above Morello in the talent department.
@@fu102 Yeah I dont think Finn even plays so I dont know why he thinks he can judge players. You dont hear me saying who the best drummer is because I dont play the drums so I dont know what Im talking about.
You mention that the start of the video that viewers seem to more interested in guitars than boobies .. May I suggest you do a tier list of best and worst boobies and we'll see in real time if the reaction is more on the outrage side of things or another reaction ..?
tom morello is certainly the "mass murder is ok as long as the perpetrator claims to be anti western" kind of guy
Tankie
00:25 This is a music TH-cam channel, right?
Tom Morello: A tier guitar abilities, z tier personality. Strangely enough this is a common trend among guitarists...I'm a guitarist.
John Mayer is interesting. His fans is in the intersection between mainstream, guitar nerd, music nerd, and become cult artist. Skillwise heis one of the very best, personality wise sober John Mayer seems like really cool person
And his music is between elevator music and hold music
Where's nu metal tier list 3 Finn? Need to see how Saliva Static X and Adema stack up!
nice video!
14:04 well..., watch their Euphoria music video
but yeah i would complete the list with sam and herman from dragonforce on the top of S
Why is Finn's definition of a good looking guy someone who looks like they're 12 and androgynous?
would you prefer him to define handsome as a 6'4 lumberjack build mewing? lol
As a 37 year old average female, I find Tim Henson to be one of the only very good looking younger men out there. 💁♀️
@@christinathein951 damn you just called out an entire generation for being ugly XD
Great chill show Finn - cracked me up when you got to Tim Henson’s review! It may be another tier, but the humour and dialogue is still 10/10❤
That list sucked...sorry.
Would loved to have seen your thoughts on Mark Tremonti…there’s Creed (hated immensely, but were huge, and having a huge resurgence), Alter Bridge (where his guitar work is god-tier…dude can shred), and Tremonti (which shows off his thrashier side).