How GOOD Was Ray Allen Actually?
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Ray Allen was one of the greatest shooters of all time. In his prime, how good was he actually? Hope you enjoy!
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Milwaukee Ray Allen had so much bounce in his game; people forget how athletic he was during his Bucks and Sonics years.
To me, he's the most clutch 3-point shooter of all time.
I agree. Steph may be the greatest shooter of all time, but Ray Allen is the most clutch shooter of all time. Although reggie Miller and Klay Thompson are pretty good too
@@MrE_ cant forget bird.
Yup he helped LeBron geta chip
@@loveofmangos6112 what you talking about dude? I'm just saying ray hit a clutch shot in the finals. Isnt the video about ray being clutch? Damn man you really that sensitive about bron? I wasn't even taking a shot at him. Come on man lol
Ray Allen set the mold for steph curry. In his Milwaukee days he good as hell.
I met ray rallen the day before I had heart surgery when he Played for the Sonics I got to spend the whole day with him and met his son also and got to sit next to him on the bench during the game , it was one of the best days of my life I’ll never forget what he did for me , I have his Jordan 11 and his jersey both signed off his feet and back , they are in a display case I’ll never for get that day
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What game was it?
Wow so lucky man, its not like you met him only, you spended a day with him! Thats so cool of him though
DRIZZ_KRML _ they played the lakers
iwant_moorecash damn
Was that the game he had the game winning layup against the Lakers back in late 03?
I truly believe that the Bucks should've retired the number-34 jersey to honor him. Instead, I believe they will honor Giannis.
I really like the latest video on your channel about kobe vs Lebron
I hope they retire 34 for both, so we can see a first in NBA history. They both deserve the number equally
@@mattsee45 they both deserve it, but I don't think it will happen, and even if it will, I feel like Allen was disrespected since they allowed someone else to wear his jersey number after him in the 1st place.
@@anthonysnbatalk9154 that "someone else" became one of the best players in the league, so they should retire 34 for ray and giannis
@@anthonysnbatalk9154 as stated in the video the Bucks traded him on his prime, that's just saying he is not that valued by the franchise at least at the time, which means it makes no sense for them to retire his jersey based on his years in the bucks. I'm saying that the Bucks doesn't deserve to retire his jersey if that's making any sense. Yes Ray Allen maybe a hall of fame player but his peak of achievement wasn't in Milwaukee. Giannis on the other hand is not yet deserving to have his jersey retired either, we'll have to wait a couple of more years and see how his career turned out and how he would part/retire with the team and the amount of achievement he would give to the franchise
That shot from game 6 of the 2013 NBA Finals is still so epic. The clutchest 3-point shooter in NBA history
Curry better
Jesus shuttlesworth anyone?
Yup
Yup
To Judas
You already
He got game
Him hitting that shot really was a Ray of sunshine for the Heat.
I see what you did there 😂
*BANG!!!!!*
Saved Lebrons Ass
Alot of people don't know that Ray Allen was once in the dunk contest and 3 point contest at the same time
Really what year 2000?
@@markanderson3826 1997
I remember that...funny how it just was, I guess normal, to see great players doing those things back then.....
He might be the only guy to ever do that tbh
@@simple45679nah kenny Smith did it too
Boy I wish the Supersonics were back already.
Ddog the G.O.A.T they'll be back soon
@@brandenharris436 yes sir they will just move the Thunder back to Seattle since they're gonna be garbage now lol.
@@fentboyz37 I like the thunder uniforms tho
@@MrE_ I can agree with that but I like the Sonics too
#BringBackTheSonics
As a spurs fan, i will never forget that Ray's shot in the 2013 finals. For me, he's definitely among the top 5 shooters of all times
Or that 1v1 play with Sacha V Lakers vs Celtics.
The most clutch shot in NBA history
Yeah definitely top 3 shooter and maybe one of the most clutch
@@xxtooshiestyxx8756It was kyrie bc it was game 7
Everyone mainly knows him from the heat and Celtics but they dont know how good he was before that....
Because he was pretty irrelevant before that. That's why players like Lebron, AD, Bosh, KG, and KD went away from their old situations on their old teams. They would never be as well known and successful if they stayed "loyal" to their trash teams. Now all of them will be hall of famers and legends because of their good career choices
@@MrE_ made a conference finals, was in movies, etc. He was far from irrelevant bud.
You're stupid, people mainly think of him on the Sonics
@@angrybusinessmankillingthe6343 *Bucks*
You mean kids born after year 2000? Yeah speak for yourself.
I remember watching Ray when he was played for the Connecticut the year before he got drafted. Everyone was talking about Iverson but I was telling all my friends that Ray Allen is going to be great.
Can’t believe this is even a Question. truly shows how quick people forget and live in the moment
the reality is no one watched the bucks or the sonics ….notice how people still complain about gay payton winning dpoy over mj in 96 or harden fans bitching he deserved mvp this year over gianiss as if they actually have an argument?...people dont watch the bucks or the sonics..period….many nba fans don't know they have titles and had great teams in the 70's 80's 90's early to mid 2000's.....the way people use words like see hes overrated exposed to describe a bad week for gianiss in may vs kawhi a legend in the making with the perfect veteran savy team around him to stop gianiss is pretty sad and proves people had not watched gianiss all year outside of like one game until that east finals games 4-6....clearly....they underrate ray the same way and kemp...and no one remembers gus williams or sidney moncreif ricky pierce jack sikma
The Wolves could have had KG and Allen on one team smh.
Celtics did tho xd
True but KG wouldn't have left the Wolves if Ray was there.
Jus like how the pacers could've had PG13 and Kawhi early in their careers
Anime King they were on the same team any way
Colton Begay they have that now on the clippers
Ray Allen was great! At every level!! Hall of Fame without a doubt!
You’ve done how good was Pierce, Rondo and Allen. Now it’s time we know how good Garnett is.
we already knew, no need to show us
Garnett was the fakest tough guy in nba history hands down!
isaac barrock MVP in 04 DPOY in 08 won a title and was a 20/10 machine
Cellytyree most 1st team all defenses in history! Nuff said. He’s a champ, MVP, now a hall of famer and you have accomplished nothing in your life 😂
@@mordecaismopstick dont forget he was a defensive player of the year as well. I think there's maybe 4 people they've done that and been an mvp. So yea he's in some pretty exclusive company
One of my favorite players. I still put him over curry as the greatest shooter of all time for the simple fact that he always hit the big shots when needed most. Curry might be more skilled but the gap ain't that different compared to how cold blooded Ray was.
Khal Drogo23 facts
no doubt
You're most likely basing that idea off that game 6 game saver. Because Curry has surely hit as many dagger 3's in clutch moments as Ray. Its just that Ray happens to have the most important one.
Dont get me wrong but Curry revolutionized the landscape of the modern NBA for his unlimited range. Curry has a league of his own and has a legitimate case for being the greatest shooter of all time. I could say Ray is just on Thompsons level. Just my thoughts dont hate.
@@jaysoncastro2190 lol thompson's level?😂
Ray Allen definitely deserved finals MVP over Paul Pierce!
Agreed!!!!!!!
Aaaand All-Star MVP as well💪
Yes
Kevin Garnett
KG
Honestly as a kid while everyone I knew and played ball with and against loved AI, Ray Allen was my favorite player and his game was smooth and fluid.
When I think of a "super team", I'm thinking more of a few young All-NBA quality players in their primes who should be leaders on their own teams joining up with each other to stack the deck (think Heat, Warriors). The three Celtics guys were at the tail end of their primes and into their 30s. I never thought of them as a super team, just a few aging stars who had languished on bad teams most of their careers and wanted to make a run before they got too old.
I was looking this comment before I posted mine.. this guy is a lebron nut hugger probably.. Bron and those started that superteam crap being in their 20s
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His book "From the Outside" was a really good read.
Allen was definitely a top 5 sg talent wise of all time in his prime. Absolute superstar on the sonics
Finally some love for top 3 shooters of all time, and one of the greatest all around players.
Ray allen is one of my Favourite players of all time
we all know if there was one shot from 3 to win a game we are all going to sweet ray....no one comes close besides maybe horry lol ….ray was cold blooded and easily if the nba didn't cheat him in 2001 and his team was healthy in 2005 could of won 3 titles on 3 teams and made 4 nba finals with 4 teams in a 13 season span leading 2 teams to finals and one to a title and being a key 3rd option piece to a 2nd title and 6th man on a 3rd title team to boot..
He was Steph Curry with a 40 inch Vertical (in Milwaukee atleast). That's how good he was
Lol nah he was more versatile than curry and he is definitely top 10 in best shooting guards
If he played today, there wouldnt be a record to be broken, plus he would easily average 32 plus a game
Yall are trippin. He never had Curry's handle and with respect to the changes in pace- he still would never collapse an entire defense like Curry does. Not for nothing, yall act like he wasn't in the league when Steph and Klay were and the game was already changing.
Love you Ray Allen. Gotta say it while he’s living 💯
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I became a Ray Allen fan when I saw him hit that game winner over Georgetown for UConn back in the day..Dude was smooth and deadly in College..!
In my opinion, he's a top 3 to 5 SGs and one of the best closers within the NBA. He could be perfect fit on the current meta in the NBA had he'd be six - eight years younger. Steph - Ray Allen duels would be a must-watch TV not simulated or played in NBA 2K/Live.
” HE GOT GAME “
I remember Ray, Ray being a good slasher. Catching bodies, and dunking on heads. All honestly his shooting abilities came out of nowhere for me. When he started to climb up the 3 points made ladder, that's when I know he's a three point threat like Reggie Miller
One of the best shooters of all time and a hall of famer. Most of younger generation they didnt saw a young ray allen as a go to guy and a top caliber all around player in bucks and sonics. When he gets old he became as a spot up shooter
Inspired me. Greatest Shooter in NBA History
One of my favorite players growing up. Ray Allen deserves much credit for his career in the NBA 💯
Young Ray was a killer
That 7 game series against the Sixers was great.
jose solis he knocked one of Iversons’ teeth out
I loved ray in the 2009 7 game first round vs the bulls...he went off for a game winner than a few games later a triple ot 51 spot on the road in a loss
@@JohnnyJohn116 lversons overhype ray got his ring
Ray got his ring.. AI didn't.. end of discussion..
Ray Allen was one of the most underrated players of all time because he was next to LBJ and Dwayne Wade he was under looked
Reborn Kirby Very under looked💯
ray allen: one of my favorite players ever
Ray-Ray is easily my favorite 2 guard besides MJ. I always loved how he could break his man down off the dribble, take stop and pop 3s, attack the basket and he's arguably the most effective shooter coming off screens in NBA history! It's also why I was rooting for the Pistons to win the title when Rip Hamilton was curling around screens and hitting Js!
10:33 hes even good with the bad 2008 ball
Some factually incorrect things. KG and Ray never talked too each other about going to Boston. Ray got traded on draft night to Boston while he was recovering from ankle surgery. He didnt finesse his way there
One of the greatest shooters in NBA history
@Mary Grace Walag Steph's the greatest shooter ever. It isn't close anymore.
@@darkorlightz FOH
@Phillip Castro and Steph has both quality and quantity over Ray. The only thing Ray has over him is longevity. Give Steph 5 or 6 more seasons and that 3pt record will be shattered.
@Phillip Castro yeah and how about 13/17? and 402 threes in a season shooting 45%? how about that?
@Phillip Castro best Ray did was 269 3pm on 41% shooting. That's more of catch and shoot threes too. Wasn't pulling from anywhere off the dribble like Steph did. Stop with the nostalgia.
He is a complete package. Can create his own shot of the dribble and has the footwork to separate himself from the defender with step back shots takeaways etc. has a post up game so putting a smaller guard on him won't work, has a great off ball movement, so bigger guards have a hard time defending him, is a capable passer, though his defense is questionable. He is a matchup nightmare.
As always, great video! Looking for ones similar to this for MLB or NFL players.
I really like your videos your opinions are pretty good and you go in depth on them to looking forward to this one
In my opinion, when Ray Allen was on the Seattle SuperSonics, he was at his greatest, but he does deserve the credit on the other teams he played on
Any hoops do the truth about the lob city Era for the clippers
Ray Allen is my favorite player of all time. PERIOD
He would KILL in the current NBA!
Easily one of my top 5 shooting guards in NBA history. I caught him with the Celtics and Heat.
top 5? Nah
I have MJ, Kobe, Wade, AI, Harden and Drexler ahead of him. He's within the 7-10th range.
@@makis7383 AI was mostly a point guard.
MJ,Kobe,Wade, AI,Jerry West(both two primarly shooting guards how were forced to play seasons as the starting pg because there weren't better options),Harden,Drexler,Gervin all better than Ray undeniably.Ray is in the same group with guys like Reggie,Vince,Moncrief in the 9-12th range.Probbably better and more consistent than the latter two just gets the edge over Reggie for his defense.SO 9th best sg seems more acurrate.
@@nazeefchowdhury2226 Let me clear this out for you people; AI played 14 seasons in the NBA and according to Basketball-Reference.com he was listed as a clear PG 4 seasons, as a clear SG 7 seasons and a PG-SG 3 seasons. So he spent most of his career in the SG position which makes him a SG.
Its ridicules how everytime people talks about the top shooters of all time you always hear about Curry, Klay and Reggie Miller but not Ray Allen. I mean Curry is the greatest shooter we have every seen no doubt, but Ray gotta come second or third(there could be an argument about him and klay sure) imo.
Bei Wang your tripping they always mention him too
Bei Wang i hear ray Allen more than Reggie Miller
Its always steph klay ray reggie then korver
Larry bird is often mentioned
My favorite player and the reason I started watching basketball. Thanks for the video 👍🏾
Ray Allen is a top 10 SG ever, a top 5 shooter ever and he hit probably the most clutch shot in league history. He was extremely underrated in his prime with Seattle, avg 25+ppg on high efficiency.
Yo this dude should keep making these type of videos they're so lit
Reggie Miller picked Ray Allen in the All Star draft, calling him the “greatest shooter of all time”. That was before Steph came up and did Steph things.
Ray and steph are two different types of players. I'd say klay thompson and ray allen are a better comparison. Just my opinion
tsl bop nah the only comparisons you can make between Ray and Klay’s game is their 3pt shooting. Klay was never the well-rounded offensive player that Ray was in his Bucks/Sonics years. Klay is a spot up/catch and shoot player who can occasionally cut to the basket if the spacing is right, he’s never been a great dunker either, Ray was at one point. If anything Klay and Celtics era Ray Allen are the more comparable players. Although Klay is the far superior defensive player. Klay won’t ever be a 1st option.
@@DCT97 you're right. But i was thinking of the back end of rays career y'know.
@Jesus Shuttlesworth that's what people don't understand.. Imagine prime Ray in the prime GSW system, he'd average stupid numbers. Also I'm saying it, Steph without that system ain't shit... And it was proved at the start of this season and guarantee it'll be like that for next season unless they get another superstar. And don't get me started on Klay lol.. Can't believe people even compare him to Ray.. That's just dumb.
Honestly the reason Ray Allen was still very useful towards the tail end of his career is because he knew he was no longer the man and instead just became a 3 point specialist getting himself a ring with the heat. If only melo would do the same thing.
I don't think Ray Allen should be remembered as one of the best shooting guards of all time. He should be remembered as one of the best guards period. Incredibly underrated. But if I were to rank him as a solid knock down shooter, he's second all time behind Steph Curry.
Ray Allen is one of the greatest shooters of all-time. I think he would've done well if he plays in the NBA today. The Bucks definitely did a terrible job mishandling him in particular George Karl. Definitely one of my favorite players ever.
Ray Allen was a pure shooter, that could score as well. And by "score", I mean he could get buckets in a variety of ways, outside of just coming off screens. Or spot up shooting.
My favorit all time,watched him since milwaukee,definetly going for galaxy opal in 2k
I remember the year he went to Seattle and watching Sportscenter.... what an animal during that time.
Ray Allen is a Top 5 SG.
Behind Jordan, Kobe, Wade, and Drexler for me.
Dont come at me with no Reggie Miller.
Eric Dupree uh AI, Jerry West, George Gervin?
Jerry West and AI were for me PGs most of their careers just masquerading as 2 guards. Modern examples example are guys like Kyrie, and Lillard for example.
As for George Gervin he played a lot of Small Forward. Check his playing days, he was listed as SF most of his career.
Mitch Richmond? Put some respect on his name. MJ praise him as being tough to guard.
AHHH??? ALLEN IVERSON??? JAMES HARDEN?? DID YOU GUYS FORGET ABOUT THEM??? THE SG LIST IS MJ, KOBE, WADE, AI, HARDEN, DREXLER, ALLEN ETC.
@@ericdupree8603 AI was listed as a SG for the majority of his career.
“Who eventually became a spot up shooter when he got older”.
2nd year in the NBA 11,5 attempts Per game from 3-point land. Only his season 4, 9 and 11 he had more attempt per gane
Stop drinking ASAP
You need to learn difference between shooter and spot up shooter.
Patrick Wilding there’s a big difference, when you are a spot up shooter you are a specialist, that is your role for the team. Allen had always been able to shoot from 3 with efficiency no matter the volume but he did much more than that for most of his career until he joined the Celtics and become a 3 point specialist
@@stealthiscool why are you telling me this dude? I said that this guy needs to learn difference lol
"2nd year in the NBA 11,5 attempts Per game from 3-point land."
NO. You're looking at the wrong column. He took 11.5 shot attempts from TWO-point land. He NEVER, in any year, averaged as many as 9 3-point attempts per game. His career high was 8.4 3-point attempts per game in 2005-06.
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My favorite thing about that 3 points shot during the Heat playoff game is the people outside that couldn't get back in. The famous quote "it's not our year," while the Heat is actually winning.
been waiting on this one
How good was Magic Johnson actually ?
(some younger fans don’t remeber him playing)
Yea he was tied with being the NBAs best in 1990 with Jordan (and of corse the years before , him and bird were the elite)
fest silne tornado the second greatest laker.
fest silne tornado everyone and their grand kids kno about magic jhonson mostly because of how good he was and the hiv memes
@@Gaben420 for real, i have him #2 all time
@@shomoy7396 5 rings, 9 finals appearances in his 12 year career and 3 mvp's. Kobe is my favorite player ever but Magic is 100% the greatest laker
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Crazy how he was in Miami for only two years but is regarded a Heat legend for that shot and we love him for it
I think about that all the time - basically everywhere he's played, fans are like 'he's our guy forever'. That speaks to his game, and his character. A proper professional.
@@Mitch_Feral big facts!
yes at last! thank you so much!❤️💯🙏 god bless sir!
Went from a elite dunker to an elite shooter
Sonics and Bucks Ray Allen was nasty but I feel like people know that, but Allen's time in Boston is so underrated. He was still nice as hell, that famous series of Celtics vs Bulls he was possibly the best player over all the games.
He was a great player. I always wonder if Ray, Garnett, Cassell played together in Minnesota would they have been a match up for La in 04.
i remember reading slam magazine the year he was drafted and they said some thing along the lines of "Ray is a good player and nice kid but trading him for stephon marbury ,what were the timberwolves thinking !" guess they were really wrong.
how about doing john starks ?
I was about to say John Starks
He played the Same position as Michael Redd who also was a dead eye shooter.
Reporter: “you can be a 3-point specialist.”
Allen: “I don’t want to be a specialist, I want to be a player.”
*I was better.*
-Stephen Jackson
Ludi DaVinci Matt Barnes-no you weren’t
I was thinking paul pearce
The only time I’m taking Stacks over Ray is in MyTeam
All I know was he a beast in NBA Ballers for the ps2
very underappreciated. Kids dont knownhow great an all around scorer he was before Boston. They only remember him as a screen runner
The 7 dislikes are probably his exes
One of the greatest players in NBA history in his prime dude was lethal even when he got older he still was a solid starter when he was younger he was in the dunk contest and he was jumping out the gym
Great video !! I always make sure to drop a like
My all time favorite Player. I love his game.
Great report! One thing "all" should know: Like Shaq, Ray Allen's Dad were military men.
These videos are so good for the youngsters that don't know better. You should do a video on the history of the hornets/bobcats/pelicans. Educate the kids on that fiasco lol
One of the top 5 players I've ever seen! Amazing!
Thanks for the video andy people think Ray Allen was just a shooter when he was a great scorer
Dude Ray Allen was awesome man he was a sharpshooter you can't never deny that man
Andy you are 100 and I concur with you Ray Allen most definitely was a complete player and doesn't get the credit he deserves
Unpopular opinion: Ray Allen had a better career than Reggie miller
thats debatable
that's not unpopular. Its fact.
@@joelyolo1032 not really. Ray had the far better career.
@@TheIcemanthomas Yes indeed. Ray is a 2x champ, a 10x All Star and multiple All NBA. Reggie was only a 5x All Star in the weaker East despite his longevity which is the only thing that boosts his legacy and reputation as a player.
The "Cool Grey" Jordans should be named after Ray. He rocked them heavy in Milwaukee.
And also that Bucks team was so fun to watch cause at that time, the Eastern conference was so defensive
5:35 I believe this dunk still haunts TMac in his dreams
my absolut favourit SG of all time!
He is loved in CT! ♥️♥️
The majority of people only know him as a lethal shooter from his later years but in his prime he was a dynamic scorer who could pack it on you
Not necessarily nba related but I can’t believe you did a feature on Ray Allen and didn’t mention He Got Game!
Ray is a top 3 shooter of all time and top 15 SG
Top 10 sg
James Harden you right o want to say that but I didn’t want people ranting on my comment💀💀
Very very nice video, Allen is also my idol because how good was he shooting, playing at the rim when he was young and i should put Ray Allen 9th all time NBA SG and 1st or 2nd as all time shooter
One of my fav players.
Do how good was Wilt Chamberlain actually
Nah the real question is how good would he be today?
@@donmikan if he can't shoot a three, he wouldn't be that good today lol
@@MrE_ he's basically Embiid but better
@@MrE_ That's ignorant. There's plenty of bigs who excel without a 3. Hes elite elsewhere. Decent mid range, had the low post games equipped with hooks, dropsteps spins, and a deadly fadeaway. And at his size, with his crazy athleticism, the abilty to bring the ball coast to coast, and his ridiculous length and size, no one is guarding him today. Hes literally a 7 ft 2 prime dwight with a better offense repitore, and elite passing.
my favorite wilt stat ever...he once had a 78 point 43 rebound game...mic drop....that just sounds insane...like how sway?....thats like more rebs than a whole team now grabs and more points than a starting 5 some nights lol
Truly Ray Allen doesn’t get enough credit when he came to Boston , he had to sacrifice so much for that Celtics team , because his offensive prowess had to change so much
bruce lau facts. Boston ain’t winning shit without him. He should’ve been invited to that reunion. He deserved to be there but it’s okay. I know he was happy with miami than with boston.