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I am a woman and I would never appreciate someone film me or take a picture of me, the mother of the beleviers and the sahabiyat and the early women covered their faces when the Aya of Hijab came down, even if I cover the integrity of my body and have a complete Hijab as it should be, I will never accept someone to take even a picture of himself where I am unwillingly present in it, let's respect one another espcially in this case our muslim sisters who are constantly called to tabarruj ✨
MashAllah massive respect sister…. As it should be I think ulemas are unanimous on the matter that even if women are in Niqab, it’s haram to post yourself on SM where your attracting the attention of tens of thousands of strange non mehram men. By all means women should give Dawah to other women, but it shouldn’t be recorded and shown on a public platform for men to see. Hijab is not a symbol of beauty Wallahi, it never was rather its purpose is not to attract the attention of strange men. Anyone can do anything with your photos online wallahi I saw a tweet the other day where it was reported that women’s Eid photo’s were posted on porn websites…. Astaghfirullah , may Allah guide us some women really need to understand male psychology. The blame is both on men and women, if we all do our part then inshaAllah there’s hope a lot of the fitna can be tackled within our Ummah.
Totally agree with u sis
really respect your thoughts
@@hussainmohammad7992 you said it all sis May ALLAAH keep us all firm upon HIS Deen and OBEDIENCE and make us follow in every footsteps of our beloved prophet صلى اللّه عليه وسلّم ameen
Here is another comment I read: ''As a Muslim girl. I feel everyone is being a Karen here. If he came up to me respectfully like that video, I wouldn’t feel violated. If anything if I was struggling with hijab and a random msg like that was shown to me I’d think it was Allah swt sending me a msg to persevere. Musa is being dramatic''.
We don’t need discussions about the topics covered in the bitter truth - all we need is the truth. This can be easily delivered in sermons by sheikhs, negating the need for non mahrams to be in such close proximity and conversing with each other.
Whoever you are, I agree with you.
Agree and Is literally the Same format of kuffar redpill but with muslims
You probably don’t but that don’t give you the right to speak for all of us. You don’t want to watch then simply DONT!!!!! It’s not rocket science
Not everyone watches information in the mediums you suggested , there's plenty of those information deliveries already available, but if a large demographic don’t watch them, then it doesn't matter how easily they can be delivered if it's not reaching the demographics it needs to be
its haram to watch but go ahead@@tkxx7093
Can ali bring forward the daleel to allow showing tabarruj and free mixing
Imagine if all muslims did this. I thought we are a nation of hayah
Unfortunately he can't brother him and Mohammed Hijab are ignorant devient misguided individuals who love to clout chase and then cover themselves with Thier denial. These people don't follow Islam or the sunnah they follow desires.
That show is straight up free mixing 💯💯
The women are not flirting on the show, are covered and talking about real issues, stop sexualising everything.
@@kazzy5205 what a foolish thing to say no one implied sexualisation you ignaramous. Free mixing is free mixing sitting with non mehrams etc. Seems like you follow your own religion
The camera angle with alis pants are off putting. either wear loose clothing or change the angles. You do this alot.
It is sad to see people attacking our brother Ali. If you disagree with a brother on a matter, it does not give you the right to disrespect and name-call. In the podcast I made it clear that I don’t see eye to eye with Ali on everything he does. This, however, does not become a reason for me to disrespect him and treat him as less of a brother.
Be very conscious regarding the way you speak about people. They may be better than you in the sight of Allah.
JazakaAllah khair.
O you who have believed, let not a people ridicule [another] people; perhaps they may be better than them; nor let women ridicule [other] women; perhaps they may be better than them. And do not insult one another and do not call each other by [offensive] nicknames. Wretched is the name of disobedience after [one's] faith. And whoever does not repent - then it is those who are the wrongdoers. Surat Al-Hujurat [49:11]
@@jaimineepatel4464lol..I'm a woman . I will not use my emotions here. A man does not need our permission to get a second wife. It is what it is. Just accept the way Allah has made man and women differently. A Muslim woman should be aware that the potential is there for your spouse's desire for another wife. It should not be a shock.
@@jaimineepatel4464 🤦♀️😔 Did you read my text. Maybe you didn't understand. You are using emotions. Read your text.
No where in the Quran and Sunnah is there evidence of asking your first wife for permission. It's not kept a secret for life. For a marrige to be valid, you need 2 witnesses. Your community will know,kids born from the second marrige will have to know about their siblings from the first marrige. If some men abuse this thats on them.Yes, Allah has given us emotions but also logic and how to use our emotions in different situations. Anyway,I AM A WOMAN. believe it don't believe it. But don't make assumptions about my being male or female. Salam.
@@laila970 I don't know if this person is male or female. My comment was for everyone in general. Though, more specifically for women and how we deal with our emotions. Not all women, but most.
ironic because ali dawahs video revolve around name calling
I truly find it shocking how Ali keeps on pointing towards certain individuals for "backbiting" and "slandering" and them "having to stand before Allah for their loose tongues" etc, when I've hardly come across anyone who backbites and slanders more than him. The sheer irony baffles me.
The other very sad thing is how the host brother allows Ali to say those things yet he doesn't stop him and enjoin the good or forbid the evil. Very sad indeed.
Jazakallah to Musa for speaking on behalf of us women as though we are his sisters. Musa is right, myself and the all of the women in my family would find it strange if a male approached us this way. You’ve won a subscriber because you give genuine vibes
Women are naturally more scared so will find things strange. Loosen up though a man wont try to attack you in a crowded place. A tiny minority of men would attack a random woman on the street.
@@idreeskhan8885ali dawah is different with the way he speaks, he is so stressful and speaks so fast its like he doesnt breathe and hes rushing you as if he has a light that hes going to miss, the way he speaks is just straight up annoying
@@idreeskhan8885oh and hes very emotional too , does not help
Here is another comment I read: ''As a Muslim girl. I feel everyone is being a Karen here. If he came up to me respectfully like that video, I wouldn’t feel violated. If anything if I was struggling with hijab and a random msg like that was shown to me I’d think it was Allah swt sending me a msg to persevere. Musa is being dramatic''.
Men can tell you what to do because you're a woman. It's not a ''male' it's a man, a higher level of human being than you, a woman.
@musa this is an honest naseeha to you. I am neutral and saw this podcast. You guys have been too harsh on him. At certain moments you guys ganged up on him and the brother is humiliating himself already enough by calling himself Ali needs Dawah and it came across as belittleing. I sensed egos a little bit. You see him being humble, but the same humble vibe I did not get from you Musa and the other guest.
Also you guys really put pressure on him sharing his income of youtube and deleting the video for the sake of you guys. Brothers fear Allah, maybe he does not want to share it and feels pressured by you guys. It is a private concern, the Prophet (saw) told us not to concern ourselves with things we have no right or business with.
See my naseeha as a moment to reflect upon and some food for thoughts. May Allah reward all of you guys for the ghayr. Keep up these podcasts brother Musa, but this one I found a bit harsh and disrespectul to the guest Ali. Please stay humble, you guys off camera can talk like this but the viewers dont see that so it comes across as rude. I think roasts are unislamic. The Prophet (saw) never roasted people.
This, absolutely.
😂😂 Ali the whole time was waffling, making excuses for himself… dropping mo hijabs name like a coward
Salam alikom,
Although Ali's intentions were pure, in my opinion, it isn't his responsibility to give these sisters nasiha. It would be the responsibility of their mahrams. My wife alhamdulillah wears hijab and it is my responsibility to advise her and motivate her etc.
It would have been perhaps better to make a video in general about it.
May Allah put barakah in these podcasts.
Bro honestly I was thinking I was the only one thinking like this it’s so good seeing brothers like you speaking about this alhamdulillah and I hope people realise how much these needs to change were really pushing into that grey area now and we need to be within the boundaries Allah has set for us to flourish as an ummah.
وعليكم السلام
may allah bless you and your wife ya akhi
@@محمد-س3ك9ج JazakAllah khair
I was reluctant to watch this video in case it was clickbait but I’m so glad Musa respectfully called out Ali Dawah in such a calm clear manner. My husband wouldn’t like it if a random man asked me to read something on his phone and filmed me doing so. Also we women wear hijab and get validation from either ourselves, our Muslim sisters/mothers, our mehrams and from Allah. We don’t need a ghair mehram we don’t know to pat us on the back (metaphorically) and say well done. Even if a sister is struggling with hijab, a guys opinion (unless it’s her husband or family) won’t make her feel any better or help her decide to keep it on. A nice video actually from ali dawah explaining the benefits and rewards of wearing the hijab during the heat and Ramadan would have had the same if not better impact on viewers. He could have even told his huge male following to compliment their sisters/wives and treat them to some ice cream lol or something nice for wearing hijab. Lots of other ways to deliver this message.
You're just jealous that ali has a showmanship talent, and your boyfriend is just a mild mannered basic guy.
Very well said. I don't care who you are, do not come up to my sister and commend her on something which is between her and Allah, her and her mahram.
@@jayjoe3716 Here is another comment I read: ''As a Muslim girl. I feel everyone is being a Karen here. If he came up to me respectfully like that video, I wouldn’t feel violated. If anything if I was struggling with hijab and a random msg like that was shown to me I’d think it was Allah swt sending me a msg to persevere. Musa is being dramatic''.
This was so good. "The roasting of" should be an entire series
When Ali came out with the bitter truth show I unfollowed him after following him for years. The reason being in my opinion too much fitna
Assalamu alaikum everyone. We are living in a time when knowledge in general is declining, ignorance is alarmingly escalating (even though we have Quran, hadees and all sorts of study materials within our finger tips in our mobile phones) and people are chasing the worldly dunya being affected with wahaan. It is best for all our Islamic speakers throughout the world to take turns and take a step back, get a bit isolated for sometime, increase their knowledge base and if needed revise whatever they have learnt, and then get back to dawaah. Spiritual refueling and increasing knowledge are required by each and everyone as we are humans, we are bound to make mistakes. Also, Allah has mentioned in the Quran that too much talking reduces the actions of a Muslim. If we look around at all the Islamic preachers in the world today, every now and then their pursuit of giving dawah, and way too much talking and social interactions have somehow declined all their hard earned impacts they had on people initially. Their actions have become lighter to people, very few take them seriously and rather consider them as ones who do not walk the talks. It is high time all of us Muslims need to increase our knowledge, support each other, and speak less and learn and do more. As Umar bin Khattab said, The best way to preach is through our manners. If we learn and practise it on ourselves and focus on our own mistakes and try to rectify them, not only the message automatically gets transmitted to others, but we also get to become man of our words. Please pardon me if any of my words hurt anyone's feelings and definitely feel free to correct me. JazakAllahu khayraan.
wealaikumusalam
You can run, you cannot hide from sheikh google. The taqiyya is exposed.
May Allah reward u abundantly for your post Ameen. It is solid advice.
@@oulangkous718 JazakAllahu khayraan. Alhamdulillah touched by your kind appreciation. May Allah SWT allow myself to continue following them with steadfastness. Ameen.
@@fahimahossain7482 Allah can't even teach a man to read/recite 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I'm no fan of SPUBs, but what is there slandering of scholars got to do with Ali Dawah's likeness for unnecessarily interacting with non mehram women?
As a man, a real man, we know there's only one reason you want to speak to non mahram women. You can dress it up with "social experiment, naseeha and so on, but really it's a sickness of the heart.
I am a Muslim woman and need encouragement especially in this day and age.. Musa is not thinking from a woman perspective which is so selfish
I think Ali needs to implement the concept that the end doesn’t justify the means. الله يهديه ويهدينا
Here is another comment I read: ''As a Muslim girl. I feel everyone is being a Karen here. If he came up to me respectfully like that video, I wouldn’t feel violated. If anything if I was struggling with hijab and a random msg like that was shown to me I’d think it was Allah swt sending me a msg to persevere. Musa is being dramatic''.
On the matter of bitter truth show, i personally got really uncomfortable by seeing muslim men and women fighting each other and raising voicies, seeing each other opponents on some issues. This was something taking away a muslims waqar, dignity
I can understand the idea behind it such as, let us make muslim men and women listen each other and discuss issues that cannot be adressed normally between muslim men and women. But where the show has arrived is really far in my opinion. Sad to see muslims speak to each other in that manner. Like sheik mohammed sait i couldn't watch more then three minuntes in some episodes
He approached my family, who were covered within Islamic attire and I when I heard I knew this guy is faasiq......needs dawah or a real job
Assalamu alaikum wa rahmatullah.
Br Musa. One nasiha if I may. I'm sure you know this, maybe just forget in this instance. When starting an Islamic based gathering. Start with mentioning Allah.
Barik Allah feek
Free mixing is free mixing there is no two ways about it. May Allah give our mistakes and guides us what is right and not who is write. Brother Ali 53:12 respectfully, please stop the free mixing show. Jzk
Here is another comment I read: ''As a Muslim girl. I feel everyone is being a Karen here. If he came up to me respectfully like that video, I wouldn’t feel violated. If anything if I was struggling with hijab and a random msg like that was shown to me I’d think it was Allah swt sending me a msg to persevere. Musa is being dramatic''.
Musa's radar on Women's perceptions is way off. He is giving the example of Sisters studying in Universities who get approached by random strangers left right & center, and thinks they would mind getting approached by a well-intentioned Muslim Guy asking them to read a message on the cellphone for a Social Experiment.
I don't believe a male should initiate contact with a non mahram female without what would be considered a valid reason in the shariah. The sister being in a public space does not change that. May Allah guide us all.
Sisters shouldn't be online at all, because we shouldn't be displayed, that's whole point of hijab!
I like brother Ali, I think as a revert he is easy for me to relate with, he teaches me a lot through his content, allahmdulliah
The key is he connects to your mind and heart in a manner which you benefit from and gain more closeness to Allah. May Allah strengthen and protect our amazing brothers and sisters out there in the battlefields putting in work. ❤
naah he is misguided.
@@LeviAcherrman in what way?
@@AdamrevertislamThat's good. Ali also reverted ages ago btw, if you didn't know
As salaam alaikum wa rahmatullah akhi
Hope you're well my brother.
Akhi. As a revert myself. My sincere advise would be Don't take your knowledge from these You tube personality's.
IF you have to then go with Abu Taymiyyah.
Maiinly pick up the Qur'an in language you know. And read, listen to the biography of prophet muhammad sallahu alayhi wa sallam.
You come to realise quickly most folks on TH-cam under the banner of Islam are taking you away with this water down version
I think I speak for everyone when I say the next episode should be:
The Roast of Muhammad Hijab
If my daughters were approached in such a manner I would be extremely angry 😡 to say it politely
You are jealous because Ali has a talent for showmanship and a strong personality, and you're just a mild mannered guy.
'dawah' individuals are too comfortable approaching non-mahram women for 'dawah'
*Ali I now understand the root of the issue but before I explain, Jazaak Allah Khairan Musa and Ali for doing this. May Allah accept your sincere intentions and May He guide us all to the straight path and to what pleases Him Ameen.*
The root of the issue Akhi is that you are using yourself and your relatives as your measuring stick for what is okay to put online and what's not instead of the Sunnah of Prophet Muhammad pbuh. Doesn't matter what u or anyone else thinks, whether it's a Sheikh, a ladies mahram or anyone else. If there's nothing in the Sunnah that supports what you intend to do then don't do it. Full stop!
Shaytaan will use your best intentions to lead you astray. So good intent is not enough and you might even need to avoid the halal if it can lead to haram. The ends do not justify the means. We don't go inside a night club to make dawah nor do we turn the Masjid into a night club because then people will come for salaah. You cannot promote this trend of everyone deciding for themselves how they want to do dawah without guidance because people will go astray doing weird things.
My sincere advise to you while u r still learning the sunnah is to regard your TH-cam channel as a mimbar. What is not fit to be done on the Jumuah mimbar is not fit for your channel and that includes reacting to fasad content that Muslims and children should not even be seeing or be exposed to. And finally, if u r reprimanded by the senior duaat and shown evidence for your mistake, delete it and don't leave it up on the internet because not everyone will follow the disclaimer or see the reprimand. Have more taqwah of Allah than you have of students of knowledge because Allah is always witness. If that setting doesn't befit a student of knowledge, is it befitting of Allah and His angels to bear witness to that? Please Akhi, re-evaluate and accept the advice from your sincere advisors and your good friend Musa, May Allah reward him. That's a friend to keep.
I can appreciate both Musa’s and Ali’s point of view regarding The Bitter Truth Show. Me personally, I don’t watch it to get fatwas but to understand what is really going on on the ground with every day Muslims. For example, I’m not a student but it was interesting to hear from student’s perspectives about what’s happening at colleges and universities, it helps me better understand the situation and prepare my child for it. This is the nitty gritty information we need to better understand how we can improve society. Again, from that show, the brother said he had developed a marriage app for students, this is seeing a problem and being proactive in coming up with a solution. I think most Muslims can differentiate between people talking about Muslim societal problems and whether the guest on the panel is giving a fatwa on it or not.
The thing is that we can still get all of those informations with ease without this show.
You could literally just have a group of men talking and the same information would be available
We are all students of knowledge until we die.
It looks to me as if our UK brothers have become a bunch of film directors (content creators), actors.
Are you guys making money from these videos.
I can remember the time going to madrasa and the Imam/Sheikh they were to shy to take money for teaching the Quran, Fiq, Tawhid.
Our parents use to put money in envelope and slip it into the pockets of the Imam because they were so reluctant to take money for the sake of Allah SWT.
May Allah guide you to the straight path
Musa is similar age to me & I’ve seen his growth. He has gained a lot of wisdom & a much better understanding of how Muslims should behave. I compliment that to his connection to the Quran & his Teacher shaykh Jamal.
Unfortunately, YT ‘Dawah’ is a space of unequipped ignorants with zeal talking about deen believing it is ‘Dawah’. Without ever having studied the Fiqh of what they are speaking about to at least an intermediate level, hence a lot of it becomes their own personal interpretation.
The bitter truth show is a prime example of that. Every show should start with definitions of terms used & speaking about the Fiqh of the matter via Knowledgeable male & female scholars & advanced students which can include people who have contrary opinions. Not a graduate from just an “Islamic University” but someone who has reached at least an Upper intermediate level in their Fiqh studies. This can be judged by the Curriculum’s the Muslim have had for thousands of years. We have a system that sieves out the layman from the learned.
So Instead of personal opinions people can leave with the various understandings from the madhaahib on how a man & woman should behave in their relationships.
I can see that mentality of learning within Musa develop Mashallah. It’s good to see. May Allah keep him on the path of learning & grant him Fiqh of the deen.
What I respect most about him is him actually making a real effort to gain knowledge he learnt Arabic gained knowledge of Islam compared to other youtubers who do it to simply argue refute or learn those related matters only
The Brother is fortunate also in having a father and mentor who is involved in work of Deen. Our young Daees need to be under the guidance of their elders. And to do mashwara and consult them. And also know the Adaab of seeking mashwera and acting upon the advice given.
I reverted 2 years ago, and wouldn’t dream of approaching any Muslim lady that I wasn’t planning to get to know for marriage, our sisters are far too precious, the untouchables, should not even be approached. Alhumdulilah for Islam
Brother, if you don’t approach them then someone else will 😂
@@Crime_pays I can’t control everyone else… that’s like saying brother if you don’t drink a beer, another man will, so you might as well drink it…
@@Crime_paysthere are millions
@@welcome2islam756haha good response
Like Al said, you think the sahabah never spoke to the female companions? Some of you think your Islam is stronger than the sahabah tbh and it’s because of ignorance! There are shariah reasons that allow for even a non mahram to speak to be spoken to.
So respectful, he lowered his gaze then uploaded the entire women onto the internet.
And having good intentions isn't enough, you have to follow through in accordance of the sunna. Everyone knows of the hadith of the three companions; one swore to fast everyday, one swore to abstain from women for his entire life, and one swore to pray all night every night. What was the advice given to them?
He isn't new to the religion and he knows that if he intends to do good he should do it following the sunna. If he believes this what the sunna calls for then it's a matter of education.
Personally I think the problem isn't him, it's "Islamic" influencers in general.
Which woman?
@@ozhoneybadger the women in his videos.
The videos asking women about body counts just makes everything discussed about the hijab video null and void.
@@oulangkous718 I don't know why they are treating him so nice, why are they tredding so lightly. Who cares what his intentions are, his actions are garbage.
The fact he pulls up a random guy he calls content man, what kind of childish mental defense is that?
I would choose the be the third companion so I can still have fun with women
Ali Dawah openly promotes a freemixing podcast and shows unveiled women in his thumbnails - this isn’t a matter of personal disagreements, this is Deen.
Brother Islamicly you are not allowed to film them without them knowing first 😅❤
Technically he is allowed, I googled it and I took a snapshot of the legality of it.
I like the demeanour of brother musa the most, but i genuinely am saying this from a viewers point of view, that even though ali’s personality is way different than musa and mohammad, there shouldnt be any ridiculing especially if its to a point where i could tell throughout this episode multiple times where it was done.
if you dont like sth, raise it and discuss it but even then that would be considered nameema. let’s not get ahead of ourselves. ali has his shortcomings and we may have a different fitna to deal with. may God bless you all, very nice episode.
I never knew Ali was such a sincere guy, not all people in the Dawah field will let somebody interrogate them like this and post it online. This guy has good neyah huge respect for him ❤
Now ali is attacking shamsi
@@jytvrealgood, whenever people see him point at him and attack him verbally
@@squidguard1 brother he is a muslim brother you can't say this astagfirullah. You can help point out and correct his mistakes but not this
@@MenkIsAMubtadiiDeobandi not physically of course, but verbally
@@squidguard1 brother anyone can misunderstand your comment and even then you don't attack him verbally. Its confronting him for a public mistake and correcting it
Aside from all the blunders Ali says in this video, one of the worst ones is what he says on 1:04:43, who preceded him with this understanding ? So if someone gives you Naseeha, the Hadith applies about you now ?
There are multiple Hadith stating that the garment below the ankle is in Hell etc When Abu Bakr heard this he told the prophet ﷺ that his trousers sometimes slips unintentionally and the prophet reassured him that he is not arrogant.
Who here can say that they are not from among the Arrogant Abu Bakr never claimed it but the prophet ﷺ who knows from Allah what we dont told him hes not.
It is arrogance to say you are not arrogant. Umar Ibn Al Khattab on his deathbed saw a boy with his garment below his Ankles and told him to lift it up.
No companion ever let there garment fall below their Ankles intentionally, so where is this difference of opinion, Ali likes the rhetoric if every mistake a brother does can nit be corrected due to difference of opinion then everyone can fall back on that and find a fringe excuse of difference of opinion to support themselves
I'll be honest Ali wouldn't cut it in my country South Africa,
Maybe he's suitable for the UK Muslim population,
But He definitely needs a senior person to educate him that having good intentions is not a valid excuse,
And Allah knows best.
Here is another comment I read: ''As a Muslim girl. I feel everyone is being a Karen here. If he came up to me respectfully like that video, I wouldn’t feel violated. If anything if I was struggling with hijab and a random msg like that was shown to me I’d think it was Allah swt sending me a msg to persevere. Musa is being dramatic''.
Ali dawah pissed me off in this video, wallahi he would get punched in the mouth by the brothers or husbands or cousins in australia for putting videos up of Muslims sisters and that’s between the Lebanese community.
Musa may Allah bless you.
This is better than the bitter truth but it still fails to meet the target just like the bitter truth. Why have a discussion without having an established opinion from a scholar on the actual issues that are discussed? People are leaving without an actual scholarly opinion on the situations discussed? Freemixing, tabarruj, and khalwah are serious matter. Ask Ali the cotnext, understand the details, do the research on the issues, ask the scholars and present your case and give your advice, privatel, publicly, whatever you decide. Strive to be from the muhsineen and do things with ihsaan. May Allah make you and Ali from amongst them.
Also, to Ali, to these matters you are not sure about. Read the 6th hadeeth in Arbaeen An Nawawi.
You admitted you are not sure about what you did was right or wrong, so why play with Allah's sanctuary and why do it infront of 1000s of people. We have advice to follow in these circumstances!
Leave that you doubt for what you don't doubt!
Have an audio discussion
Seek knowledge on the matter deeply.
If it's a message you need to get across, there's a million ways to do it and you can still if Allah wills help people keep their hijab on and talk about these necessary topics.
If you continue to admit, that you are not sure and you continue to play with doubtful matter, then you are not someone who is taking his role seriously and you should step down.
Even if a shaykh validated you after the fact, shows you are not being thoughtful beforehand and your team are not being the team you should be having. Perhaps they are tested with love of fame, and association. Fear Allah, seriously.
“Minimum make up” this gotta be a joke. His podcast is clearly free mixing.
When you constantly have to make videos to provide content for subscribers , it’s impossible for the intentions to remain completely sincere and for the sake of Allah all the time . Musa absolutely right it was totally inappropriate to approach Muslim sisters like that.
I'm with musa, if someone comes to me I'll not like it online or offline.. i DON'T wanna be on TH-cam even with hijab.. (i assume some creep saying that with bad intentions because i don't know you, no matter how good u r or how good ur intentions is). If my own brother say that it another matter it's praise but even my own cousin say that (personally to me) I'll not like it.. i don't talk to my cousin as well. (I just do salam and bye (some times very little talk in family gathering if our elders is sitting with us that's it).
I don't see benefit too Because whoever wanna wear hijab they do, whoever don't they don't. You can't convince someone with one video like that..
And filming them without permission (because he said i don't remember i said to everyone that they are filmed) BIG NO NO BROTHER..
intelligence is correlated with high trust
He slanders Spubs calling them a "cancer", he will be held accountable infront of Allah, Spubs have done more for the muslims in 1 lecture than this Jaahil Ali needs dawah has in the past 5 years. May Allah guide him the evil slanderer.
Who are spubs??
@@hattorihonzo5804 Salafi Publications
@@hattorihonzo5804bunch of ex criminals (literally have criminal records and been in HMP) and young overzealous kids who make tabdea on everyone except for their very tiny circle
I live in Birmingham and I am probably older in age then there leader. I remember when they first opened their centre in the late 90’s I think people are best advised to stay away from them.
Ali dawah a liar you remember alot but when you say I think seems like hiding something or trying to justify your actions or cover up your very good at that.
Brother Ali... by Allah I stopped watching you after you started doing the videos discussed. You have no right to go up to these Muslim woman and tell them anything. Nor should you have these bitter truth videos with these woman having discussions with men that have no relation to you or the other guests.Bitter truth is just an entertainment show. It is not Islamic. There is no need for it or the views expressed in it. May Allah keep us all on the straight path. Ameen.
I actually dont like BitterTruth series ali started. It just doesnt sit right with me. We dont need to bring women and men on a platform to copy other podcasters. We just need the correct guidance. Just like it was done before us. Men preach to men and women preach to women. Ali should stop doing that show
Social experiment for the purpose of what exactly?. Muslims should not conduct social experiments relating to islam as this has no premise rather it is just useless entertainment. Filming muslims in public in the pretext of advocating the deen is not something approved in islam nor something which pleases Allah regardless of the subjective intentions. This guy is just using the deen to make videos just like how nasheed artists use deen to make nasheeds. The masses who follow these guys are newbies to the deen and have not studied the deen properly to know they are just entertainers using the deen to gain followers.
Freemixing is (1) when there is interactiom between men and women who aren't mahram (2) women arent wearing hijab properly (3) the Interaction is beyond the need. Clearly, the conversations being had were nothing to do with Islam such as men's and women's preferences on certain things.
As someone who works with youngsters Ali is very likeable approachable type person.
I’ve only seen a quarter of this but I like the way Ali took everything said to him, he wasn’t defensive and showed to to respectably take criticism,
I generally don’t like these going up to ppl having a Hee Haa , having said that, I can TOTALLY understand why he did this at that time.
Maybe you guys don’t realise how influential the ex hijab is were. One was the main top G irl influencer at the time she took off hers… and yes others followed suit. It was indeed an immensely confusing time for women - not just girls. I’m aware of Morhers taking off their hijabs because they started wearing it due to those influencers…
I’v learnt something very big today from your discussions ie how to point out with preservation and dignity and how to accept gracefully,
Brothers need to stay away from our families and wives. It’s a matter of غيره. I don’t care what his intentions were!
So lock her in the house because she is going to have interaction in the UK. People just have to have manners
Ali Dawah loves doing U turns to the topic 😂
Ali's intention is needed for many.
. targeting certain viewers.. that did have an impact on many hijabis.. alhumdolilah
Didn't the companion say that if he saw a man walking with his wife, he would strike him with his sword and the prophet approve of what this companion said.
Didn't Umar it rebuke and repremand Abu Musa Al Ash'ari for gifting his wife?
Even if the hukm wasn't haram, for brothers to criticise and rebuke you can be justified and they shouldn't have to be called ignorant ignoramuses for this.
I think women should approach women . Why doesn't ali get his wife to do the social experiment.
Here is another comment I read: ''As a Muslim girl. I feel everyone is being a Karen here. If he came up to me respectfully like that video, I wouldn’t feel violated. If anything if I was struggling with hijab and a random msg like that was shown to me I’d think it was Allah swt sending me a msg to persevere. Musa is being dramatic''.
@ItsameAlex you may not feel that way, but how would your brother or your father feel .
Personally, if I was with my wife ,I wouldn't mind it ,but if my wife came home and told me some guy approached her ,I would mind .
Men are the protectors of women.
His answer would probably be, because he doesn't want her to be shown in public. How ironic would that be.
@@Djoawd Here is another comment I read: ''As a Muslim girl. I feel everyone is being a Karen here. If he came up to me respectfully like that video, I wouldn’t feel violated. If anything if I was struggling with hijab and a random msg like that was shown to me I’d think it was Allah swt sending me a msg to persevere. Musa is being dramatic''.
What's the reason for the sisters to be invited and filmed? Our Prophet Muhammad saws transmitted Allah's message even to women! He didn't bring his wives or Sahabiat to speak about some issues in public. My advice to brother Ali is to stick to brothers only. Also, br Gabriel Al Romaani didn't allow sisters videos on his Live sessions ma sha Allah. Maybe he accepted the invitation for the show thinking that it will benefit the Muslims and can correct some misconceptions...Therefore we can not say that br Gabriel came believing that it is something 100% halal - we don't know his intention! May Allah bless this UMMAH and guide us all!
MashaAllah may Allah bless you brother
The issue is not even her attire. The problem is how dare you approach sisters like that. Thats someones wife, sister and daughter
People make mistakes and they learn from it
i don’t understand how its a problem
Here is another comment I read: ''As a Muslim girl. I feel everyone is being a Karen here. If he came up to me respectfully like that video, I wouldn’t feel violated. If anything if I was struggling with hijab and a random msg like that was shown to me I’d think it was Allah swt sending me a msg to persevere. Musa is being dramatic''.
The brother Ali confuses free mixing with segregation
I honestly don't get this lol first Ali Dawah was inadequate to give dawah because he could not read the quran, now he is inadequate because he can't understand the Arabic language?! What percentage of Muslims understand Arabic?!!! inshaAllah, we should all begin to understand the quran but it sounds like you are nit picking on Ali Dawah's hard work for the sake of it. I am not a fan but I see over the years Ali Dawah truly has tried with the dawah seen and he should be respected and given credit for that. I don't think Ali dawah should put himself down for not being eloquent enough in English or to be told that by you. I found listening this to be quite cruel tbh but I agree with the points of the Islamic etiquettes' of free mixing that you made etc. Just don't like this nit picking business.
I dont like Ali at ALL. He always backbites and tries to turn it into a "joke", doesnt known when to shut up and listen and thinks he is always right
I do think this video was needed as we need to observe hijab and lower our gaze. As a women I would feel so uncomfortable being approached by a brother no matter who he is. Also in his video where the brother and sisters debate. I don't agree with it. There should be some partition or curtain of some sort. I think we need to remember that we are going to be held to account.
Be wary of people like Ali who always say that there is a difference of opinion and who constantly cling to fringe opinion. When there are two opnions look at the evidence each person brings and fear Allah and do not incline towards your desires.
It's absolutely rich that Ali is trying to call out brothers for backbiting and slander, yet he literally did the same thing a few days ago to shamsi -- where him and Hijab accused him of siding with the LGBT folk over a muslim.
Ali and Hijab purposely ignored the context ,and former half of the clip ,of shamsi confronting some Saudi guy and his hypocrisy.
May Allah guide you Ali and give you what you deserve.
What are you talking about? This makes no sense. The guy was trying to snitch and turn him in
Regardless of the context of that video. Shamsi deserves to be called out for being a hizb spubs madkhali who makes tabdea on everyone except for the small salafi sect
@@adnan2030 Brother, when you're going to accuse a Muslim of siding with the socially degenerate of the Kuffār, you should first be sure of it.
Shamsi was telling him to curse the LGTV people on camera to show that the Saudi brother was a hypocrite in saying that he wants to move here instead of living in Saudi because apparently can't speak out against certain evils in public or else the authorities come after you -- the dare of filming him while cursing the LGTV degenerates clearly demonstrates that his reason for moving to the UK is a silly and bogus one, as even over here you can't speak out against certain things in public without getting destroyed on a social and even economic level.
@@squidguard1 You're clearly an example of how unjust and evil you anti-SPUBS and anti-salafis are -- you can't even be just enough to call out Ali and Hijab for their clear lies.
To say Shamsi makes Tab'dee of EVERYONE who's not part of SPUBS is ridiculous as well -- especially considering his Masjid operates seperately to the brothers in Birmingham; the only thing that is the same is their aqeedah and Manhaj.
I've never seen Shamsi make public Tab'dee of most of the other Da'ees like Hashim, Mansur, Hamza and ect. either -- this is because those brothers have not called to innovation in their Da'wah as far has he and others know.
Unlike Ali and Hijab who repeatedly use the garbage Kalam cosmological argument of a "necessary being" which even some of the Christians told Hijab that the argument is garbage one that should not be used.
@@zk116 Firstly Shamsi shouldn’t be making tabdea on anyone, he’s not qualified. He’s warned against Ali dawah, Mohammed Hijab, Mufti Muneer, Ustahd abdurahman hasan, Abu taymiyaah, uthman ibn Farooq, bro hajji, brother easa when he was alive, imran.
Abdul Hamid asked shamsi specifically if Adnan Rashid, hashim, mansur are upon Quran and sunnah and he said he doesn’t know lol. All the brothers in the park except for the Shia, Khawarij are our Sunni brothers, also hashim, mansur never quote the salaf, they never reference salafi ulema when giving dawah and 100% I can find evidence of them both using cosmological arguments and Kalam when debating atheists. So what will Shamsi say about them?
There’s only a TINY amount of da’ees in the park who reference salafi ulema and the salaf when giving dawah. The majority give dawah similar to how hijab does. Does that mean they’re all deviants?
What’s ironic is Shamsi himself has used philosophical arguments when giving dawah and trying to prove existence of Allah, it’s okay for him but not for hijab. Hijab and Ali dawah should take the video down if they’ve used it out of context though
Ali go pay for yourself to go madinah and study.
One can try and sugarcoat as much as he wants but (BITTER TRUTH SHOW) is free mixing.
Rather than having his (Ali's) wife work in the background why does he not get her on the show?
Maybe she doesn't want to be in front of a camera. She has a right to privacy.
Exactly ….. they’ll never put their own wives on camera wallahi im baffled like this guy being a man either doesn’t get how male psychology works or is just ignorant. No authentic scholar today would say this is permissible …. And I’m not referring to western Da’ees who’ve mislead this ummah enough. I’m talking real scholars in the Middle East. The bitter trust is just basic gossip to get views wallahi, similar to what western or any non Islamic TV shows promote. By all means that sort of stuff is always gonna be there online…. So is free mixing but The sad thing is they think they’re doing Dawah but what your actually doing is normalising haram …… do whatever you want don’t bring Islam into it for Allahs sake when you bring non mehrams, chit chat giggle and talk about sensitive issues like intimacy, virginity so casually and wallahi the sisters have no haya openly talking about such topics publicly. Sadly many stranger brothers have more Gheerah for these sisters than their own male folks to know that it’s not right to free mix like this. This isn’t the way of RasulAllah SAW….May Allah guide us all!
I don’t know the mental gymnastics to justify that podcast
It would have been nice to have a sheikh in this show. It seems some people talking and guessing about whats right and wrong based on whats traditionally found comfortable or uncomfortable. Please stop me from laughing Musa bhai.
Ali Dawah is struggling with his ego in this video.
In regards to ref: bro romaani etc. thats wrong. We dont judge validity of islamic content based on the ‘known practicing ‘ people. Thats blind following. Anyone can slip up and make mistakes. Even the most highly practicing and knowledgeable
I can't wait to see alidawahs bird on a podcast ❤❤❤
Brothers come to my house for biryanis
wallahi shamsi was never wrong about ali needs dawah
He has always had a weakness for women
Love Ali dawah, respect the way you took it all in and even managed to laugh with the brothers in the end, keep up the good work Akhi may you go even further in life Ameen thuma Ameen
When Ali Dawah is speaking about that alim saying it’s ok he is just basically exposing him of being ignorant just because alim said it’s ok doesn’t mean it really is they are not the prophet you have to go with the majority of scholars imam Malik a great scholar got things wrong
What he did wasn't haram kid😢l😂
context: heat and bad hijab PR, ongoing adversity, life's a test, including in the West. (yes)
assumed problem: some women feel burdened by modesty because of heat or the backlash of being visibly muslim (yes)
intention: uplift modest muslim women (yes)
chosen solution: walk up to them as a man with a message on a phone (a mix of naseeha and appreciation) social experiment style (no)
optimal solution: 1) walk up to them as a woman with a written message (phones hurt my eyes) or flowers or a token of appreciation and filming is optional based on consent (yes) 2) set up a stand for question/answers/discussion specific to hijabis around the hijab and what they think about the difficulties hijabis face---the value of such filmed answered would spread wisdom and uplift audiences who can relate. Maybe have pamphlets ready on the topic as well.
Also showing a random woman your phone as a man is just inappropriate. Don't care why. The medium is the message.
I swear by Allah Ali is an ignorant without knowledge, wallah spubs are mountains of knowledge in the west, for 30 years they have been teaching Islam to the muslims. Ali accuses them of slander in reality he is accusing Imam Ahmad, Al Barbaharee, al Lalikaee, al Muzani, ash shaafi’ Albani, Bin Baz, Ibn uthaymeen, Salih al Luhaydan, Muqbil, Rabee’, Ubayd etc of being slanderers and backbiting. Look how he speaks about Spubs as if they are not directly connected with the scholars as if they dont have thousands upon thousands of lectures online in regards to Quraan, sunnah, Aqidah, Manhaj, Fiqh, Seerah an Nabawiyah. May Allah guide this slanderous backbiter Ali needs dawah, and May Allah guide you my brother Musa and the other brother to see that the tales that have been spread about spubs are lies, this is why I left Ali and mohammed hijab to seek real knowledge so I could taste the sweetness of knowledge, not to watch ridiculous social experiments and podcasts with no benefit. BarakAllahu Feekum.
Spot on Akhi!
100% facts
Talks about backbiting then him and hijab proceed to backbite shamsi about a 10 sec clip taken out of context. Hypocrite
Bro you and brother Hijab should stop the outburst of laughter specially when you are speaking on a serious matter.
They can do whatever they want as long as it isn’t haram. Focus on yourself
@@ren.8137 You are someone who doesn't like to be corrected. But no one cares about you in your bubble but these are people engaged in public so they need positive criticism to better themselves.
And🤔
Anything goes as long as it's not haram?
You are either very young or old enough but lack maturity.
If someone is taking to me about a serious matter I wouldn't do an outburst of laughter every now and then. That is disrespectful of the host and or audience.
Giving them positive criticism doesn't take away from the good they are doing. It simply helps them improve.
@ren.8137 hi buddy mostaq is correct here the rasul sw forbade qahqaha this is laughing uncontrollably until your molars and gums show. Let's leave our emotions and feelings aside. The sunnah of the prophet was to laugh moderately, never showing his molars. That's the sunnah. Everything in moderation is best
Ya, It's kind of irritating 😅
Ali take responsibility please
I believe that if the if i had a female relative who is having thoughts on weather to keep the hijab on, i would be grateful if someone came and praised her and gave nassehah to her, as it may result in her strengthen her faith and keeping the hijab on.
True, but the issue is about recording the sisters which is wrong
True, but the issue is about recording the sisters which is wrong
I wouldn't like any non-mahram approaching my female close relatives for any reason. If you do that in front of me get ready for a cracked skull.
Would you want a non mahram man approaching your sisters?
@@iymuslim Here is another comment I read: ''As a Muslim girl. I feel everyone is being a Karen here. If he came up to me respectfully like that video, I wouldn’t feel violated. If anything if I was struggling with hijab and a random msg like that was shown to me I’d think it was Allah swt sending me a msg to persevere. Musa is being dramatic''.
Advice is so so important! Not flattering each other. May Allah strengthen the ummah and keep us united ameen
After watching the bitter truth podcasts i had exactly the same view what Musa Adnan said
Here is another comment I read: ''As a Muslim girl. I feel everyone is being a Karen here. If he came up to me respectfully like that video, I wouldn’t feel violated. If anything if I was struggling with hijab and a random msg like that was shown to me I’d think it was Allah swt sending me a msg to persevere. Musa is being dramatic''.
Around 6 yrs ago, I was visiting London with my husband and children. We were passing through Hyde Park and unknowingly entered via Speakers Corner. As it was quiet (colder months and weather wasn't great) my husband thought he would greet the daee's quickly and asked we wait a little distance away. Before he finished, Ali turned and walked past and directly gave me salaam before lowering his gaze... My husband saw my awkward response to the unexpected greeting. When my husband asked me - he was not happy Ali gave salaam. He said it was inappropriate and uncalled for. Ali had left the park at this point and I suspect my husband felt somewhat responsible for leaving me there. As good as Ali's intentions are- i'm sure - these random interactions can cause all type of fitnas. If my husband wasn't witness, and heard about it from my young daughter who recognised Ali as someone from the internet (i.e. famous) My husband may have apportioned blame to me for hanging around SC. Seeing me being complimented online on YT by a chair mahram? No one would have gotten off that one lightly.
Yeah Ali can't prompt you to speak especially when you were without your mahram. Seems so suspicious of him. Just to be on the safe side I hope you wear the niqab and not meet these kinds of men.
Sorry but your husband was insecure. Its just a Salam and he kept it moving
Ali Dawah needs Dawah
I love Ali for the sake of Allah and we certainly have benefitted from some of his podcast.
I would really like Ali to learn be quiet just for once when other brothers are talking. He just can’t keep quiet (hmm, yeah, right, uh-huh, exactly, I know) and it’s disrespectful and off putting.
It's grown arrogance.
Ali ,is so ignorant!!!
The PURITY of the converstation and the topics, were 'MAGIC" and insightfuL It totally brought a humbling truth to what, WE THE AUDIENCE see and hear. (Ali needs your guidance tho bros 😊 Love to all3)
Ali Kardeşim I think you had a very sweet intention but theres always another perpesctive and from others point of view it could be viewed as sweet talking their women. I understand your heart Ali you are showing love to your people whom you love like me. But sometimes that love needs to stay internal for Allah.
I find brother Ali content really cringe at times, especially the marriage one.
bro we dont care what cringe is to you just keep it for yourself may Allah guide us all
I agree, i think we need the more mature and upright individuals to represent Islam to the masses, because the non believers are looking for the smallest of things to beat us with.
we don't need to free mix, to connect with the younger generation
@SayfuddinHaydar Here is another comment I read: ''As a Muslim girl. I feel everyone is being a Karen here. If he came up to me respectfully like that video, I wouldn’t feel violated. If anything if I was struggling with hijab and a random msg like that was shown to me I’d think it was Allah swt sending me a msg to persevere. Musa is being dramatic''.
I dont like how they seem to team up on ali and give each other side eyes
enjoyed this discussion!
need more of these public correction things
Salam Br Ali check ur in box . I helped you film few 90% of the sisters was told but I remember some so …….check ur in box need to correct something , I was the one filmed it akhi
I still remember seeing the video because i felt a line had been passed
As a Muslim women I felt it was intrusive
I do for sake of Allah swt insha Allah and having a stranger approach and tell you to be strong is understatement
Exactly sister, as a brother, I felt it was very intrusive. I always feel people with a camera have a dark selfish motive & this is where people, like Ali & others, use Islam to further their own fame & pocket.
Deeds are done for Allah, & the best ones are done in private. But this is what TH-cam fame does to a person. How many sins are made public by these guys for everyone to see, comment & share? When the Shariah states to keep it quiet & hidden?
As a 'roast' this was not much of a roast. There are many larger problems with Ali's content like the freemixing, like his skits where he impersonated shaytan, soothsayers and black magic practisioners, adulterers etc. A complete train wreck.
There's no fremixing in his shows. The skits and soothsaying yeah thats a big issue
@@SDSen what do you think free mixing is? They are sitting opposite each other in one gathering and talking about their preferences in certain matters. Nothing to do with the Qur'an and hadith.
@@abumaalik9272 how is that freemixing and who came up with the term freemixing anyway? "freemixing with boundaries is fine" just don't talk sexual or discuss intimate personal matters etc
@@SDSen you really need to study the deen if you think the bitter truth show isn’t free mixing. Recording photos and videos of women is haram, let alone these bothers who have no ghayrah who send their women Folk to talk about intimate and personal matters as your said yourself ….. on one of the shows they were discussing sensitive matters such as intimacy and virginity wallahi any man with Gheerah and woman with haya would know it’s not right. No scholar would consider this appropriate. May Allah guide us
I have so much respect for Brother Ali Dawah and the work he does for his videos, are entertaining and interesting and educational
me too, I like that he admitted that the scientific miracles in the quran have been debunked, I like that he will be truthful
@@iankennedy1441but I don't brother, pls if you're a Christian then this argument is not gonna work because many other prechers like Jay Smith said things you don't wanna hear.
As a Muslim girl. I feel everyone is being a Karen here. If he came up to me respectfully like that video, I wouldn’t feel violated. If anything if I was struggling with hijab and a random msg like that was shown to me I’d think it was Allah swt sending me a msg to persevere. Musa is being dramatic
Thank you very much! I love how sincere and loving your comment is.