@@cody2254 I'm gonna be honest, that setup didn't show them off in a way that really benefited them but it could be really useful. I really like the look of the old school 2 stroke exhausts made up from what to be blunt is far more cuts than is necessary and the shogun look like a good way to ensure I get that sort of look in a way thats QUICK to mockup and tack. Would I do the whole system, probably not, can I see a use sure.
@@jediknight1294 funny you say that, I love 2 strokes, just had my first TRX250R 3 years ago, gonna get another one then a Banshee next before I get another 450... may do the Electric swap though, rich rebuild Raptor E Swap is really nice (his cyberquad build) but I want to build one that setup for moto and dunes and I am debating between a trx450r e swap or a raptor e swap or a 400ex e swap just cause I loved the 400ex lol. But yeah I love 2 stroke Brotha
Make sure the customer knows what to expect and what the look is going to be with the “lobster” bends. I built a similar exhaust. When completed, the customer did not like the multiple welds, so he had me grind them down smooth. I got paid right for the extra welding, but it still hurt to know that i could had built it off from regular mandrel and be done faster
Problem is casting is expensive in small to medium quantity, something like this the moulds aren't going to last that long and they will be fairly labour intensive. The question is like the man says where do you want to spend the money, on the materials or the labour time. For a home builder who is going to tack and take to a buddy to finish the welding I can see the temptation. Similarly having a couple to do a small portion of the exhaust or for the look of the scallopping and blueing of the welds. End of the day its just another tool in the toolbox.
I'm assuming a square somewhere could notify YT and Fab could be demonetized. Can't say the seven dirty words anymore, because they hurt people's feelz haha!
You can buy a complete V8 header kit from many of the online speed shops in steel for 100 to 200 bucks and have it coated for cheaper.The Shoguns would be really great for the boutique builder.
I can see them saving a lot of time and being easier to use for the beginner. And that is part of fabricating knowing your options but they still look crooked to me. Nice vid as always and thanks for the ideas nice to have options.
It would be nice if they sold 2-3 pre welded, I imagine 85% of situations could be done with sets of 2-3s, and would reduce the weld time even further.
I suppose if covered with heat-wrap it will look just fine. But as a bare metal finish I think it looks like crap. I agree that the product cuts labor costs if this is important, but for a hobbyist the cost is outrageous and the product takes away from the creative experience of working from scratch. If left exposed, to me, it looks like a blatant display of money thrown at a project.
For a hobbyist it isn't really that different cost wise because you have to look at the time in the same way as a professional builder would. Would I have paid an extra 150$ to save 3-5hours of my free time on the exhaust fab that I could spend on the paint or somewhere else on the project when I was working and at school 50-60hours a week and building in my free time. Fuck yes I would. As for looks, thats always a personal thing, I'm not a huge fan of the scallops but I like the blued rings from.the welds for the style of bike I like and want to build for my next one. If I was aiming for an ultra clean exhaust that looked one piece and seamless, I'd do what I've always done, work from a box of offcut and fuckup bends I acquired from a mate at an exhaust shop, mock up with welding wire and sit and make cuts and spend 15-20 hours on the thing swearing a lot and setting fire to the workbench, and ending up using 2x the length of material than I needed because I get passed off with the design or fuck up a curve or 2. Its all about having options and tools in the toolbox, I'm never going to see we need less options or ways to make a custom part available
i play guitar,so from a guitarist point of view,its common sense.fatter the string the thicker the sound,smaller the string thinner the sound.so having said that.the thicker the metal the fatter the sound,thinner the pipe gives a more high pitched galss pack sound
It would be MUCH simpler and cheaper to just rent (or hell buy one) a cheap tube bender and bend the exhaust to the final shape, then chop it up and reweld.
I don't know of any off the shelf bender that could bed tight radius thin wall tubing that is cheaper than this stack of shogun cuts. You'd have to use a mandrel bender to get this tight of a bend.
cool idea i think as a "jig" set up to do bends visually and then bend pipe to match specially with costly titanium/stainless but to do it and use it as an actual system to me is kind of a "swingin the rooster" approach to an exhaust
Good morning, even this good fretting system for exhaust curves. As soon as I have a customer who wants a great service, I buy this friend from Portugal.
cool vid!! ive been a pressure pipe welder for 35yrs mostley pipeline but did a lot of tig over the yrs also,where did you get the tig finger that looks like it would save on the burnt pinkys and who's red chopper was that in the parking lot is it for sale?
The only reason I think this bike sounds kinda cool is because I don’t think I’ve heard something like this haha. It sounds like less beefy for some reason. Idk what’s different but it sounds more like a sports bike almost. Like less rumble. Sounds clean and good but different.
If you factor in the time and everything it might be worth it. If you want your bike back sooner than later also, time is money. Depending on what the hourly rate of the fabricator is, if it saves 2 hours of labor @100$ an hour or more, you could get 10+ shogun cuts for the same price and have the product done 2 hours earlier.
as a professional fabricator i couldnt justify the cost at all. not when a 10 foot section of tube (enough to do several of these motorcycle exhausts) costs as much as a single shogun cut. the price is just not viable imo. any fabricator that has the skill to attract a customer willing to pay 1200 dollars for an exhaust should be able to do a pie cut exhaust from regular tubing that looks just as good if not better in a reasonable time frame.
How much do the shoguns blue after riding for a while? I'm guessing that straight section turns a lot faster than the cuts, but still curious to see how it looks after a few good rides.
Ha! Great idea, stupid pricepoint. I guess I'll just make my own lipped piecuts on the lathe. They also won't have the scalloped look and will be as light as normal piecuts. Both of these are advantages over the shoguns in my mind.
Off topic but how you like the everlast welders behind you? Ive been looking into them and was wondering on your take on them since you know about them
Great video as always. I'm still new to TIG and trying to pick up everything I can but one question I've had is, what is that towel/pad you put under your hand when your resting your hand on the workpeice? Is that so you can move around the workpeice in a smooth motion? I've never seen one of those until I started watching your videos. Thanks and keep the videos, I've learned a TON.
Shelvin Singh That's a spark plug boot to keep the heat down. Jody from Welding Tips and Tricks sells the TIG Finger which is more effective. Mine always seem to find their way to other peoples fingers and disappear, so I just use spark plug boots. Nobody steals them.
Whats the crimped or bowed middle section do? If they had that lip and recessed ends and not the bowed middle section i think i'd like it that way more. Looks cleaner. Okay, i understand possibly why they have the bowed section. Possibly when you weld it it has that "WMWMWMWM" look.
The scallop is for looks I guess. It could be argued that it's for weight reduction, but you'd have to ask Jesse why he did it haha. I just build with them.... I think it would be neat to have the option with or without the scallops but I like the look with them. It's like a signature look where someone knows you have the product.
Do they make them in all sizes and no scalps I'm guessing they do, I would like to build my turbo manifolds with them. Where did you say you can order those thro ?
Hey Justin I’ve noticed in a load of you videos when your Tig welding you have you tungsten is quite far out why is that ? What’s the reason and pro and cons ?
MrStacy1974 Nope. The person I was in the accident with was not insured so my only choice to recover loss was to part out and scrap. It was sad to see it go, but I can always build another.
The Fabrication Series that sucks, I was following the build at the time because my Courier used a similar spindle. Not ro mention my intention to out right plagiarise .... lol
At 1200 bucks for 60 pieces they would be best invested for mock up. Just imagine gow much a gt40 style bundle of snakes set of pipes would be and then att say 40 oz times 8 pipes.
That short, non stepped and wide open, mid range power killers, but as long as there's people who don't know any better and think that cause it's louder it's running faster there'll always be someone making a fortune.
I'm just trying to understand how they would rob you of power. Do you know how or why they would? EDIT: Nevermind, I found some info. It says the effect is minimal at only 2% - 3% and this below. "A straight pipe, for example, can cause exhaust gas velocity to increase. This will likely reduce engine performance below 2,000 or 2,500 RPM, making your vehicle a little slower to launch from a stoplight. Your engine may show more horsepower on a dyno - and might even finish the quarter mile a little faster - but it won’t be faster on the street." Not enough to worry too much about IMO.
I have been tuning Harleys for a long time and trust me straight pipes rob your horsepower, you always ride your bike under 3000 RPM unless you have a dragbike but even a dragbike you want some type of megaphone, like I said they sound great.
These are Titanium? Right? I think everyone is assuming it is stainless steel. But if you look at it being $20 a piece for Titanium it is a little easier to justify the cost.
So after you fab it up with those things. Take that pipe profile to a mandrel bending shop and have it done properly in seamless pipe so there is no edges to create turbulence inside the pipe which WILL happen with all those pieces. This is how a backyard hack makes an exhaust. If youve never had a formal education in pneumatics and hydraulics then you wouldn't know how bad a little edge or angle in a pipe adds turbulence to the flow.
Guess Jesse forgot about some us work for a living, why would I pay that! The point of building your own or for someone is so can save a lil money you just as well buy cookie cutter pipes for that kind of money and call it a day!
They collectively look like hvac aluminum bendable tubing like you went to home depot and bought some hvac duct tube slapped it on your bike. Kind of strange looking.
thunder god Because you wouldn't have pie cuts is you use bends. The point of pie cuts is to keep them pie cuts. It the end user wants bends, they'll use bends instead.
I have always thought this 'pie cut' and 'lobster cut' stuff looks like somebody was too ghetto to buy proper fuckin' mandrel bends. The only reason I could see for this product is to mock up - so you can cut some bends to the correct angles.
It looks like the flex vent on the back of my clothes dryer. And that kit only set me back about $15... No disrespect intended to the quality of your work.
So the money goes to the supplier while the builders loses some cash. Besides that,those scallops just don't cut it for 20 bucks a pop. Imagine the cost for v8 headers,way out of my range for sure. Good video though, something new on the motorsport market.
You could of fab'ed that simple set of dumps with about 6 bends in the same time you played around with $1200 of legos.
Thats exactly what I was thinking this is one of the most useless money wasters I have seen yet
@@cody2254 I'm gonna be honest, that setup didn't show them off in a way that really benefited them but it could be really useful.
I really like the look of the old school 2 stroke exhausts made up from what to be blunt is far more cuts than is necessary and the shogun look like a good way to ensure I get that sort of look in a way thats QUICK to mockup and tack.
Would I do the whole system, probably not, can I see a use sure.
@@jediknight1294 funny you say that, I love 2 strokes, just had my first TRX250R 3 years ago, gonna get another one then a Banshee next before I get another 450... may do the Electric swap though, rich rebuild Raptor E Swap is really nice (his cyberquad build) but I want to build one that setup for moto and dunes and I am debating between a trx450r e swap or a raptor e swap or a 400ex e swap just cause I loved the 400ex lol.
But yeah I love 2 stroke Brotha
there incredibly expensive...........................
Make sure the customer knows what to expect and what the look is going to be with the “lobster” bends. I built a similar exhaust. When completed, the customer did not like the multiple welds, so he had me grind them down smooth. I got paid right for the extra welding, but it still hurt to know that i could had built it off from regular mandrel and be done faster
My back hurts just seeing that riding position.
DO-WORK-SON the riding position isnt that bad.....its not having any rear suspension that hurts.
20 bucks a slice is ridiculous man
Yea.....some real sticker shock. I guess they market this stuff to guys like Chip Foose.....who would never use it.
Problem is casting is expensive in small to medium quantity, something like this the moulds aren't going to last that long and they will be fairly labour intensive.
The question is like the man says where do you want to spend the money, on the materials or the labour time. For a home builder who is going to tack and take to a buddy to finish the welding I can see the temptation. Similarly having a couple to do a small portion of the exhaust or for the look of the scallopping and blueing of the welds.
End of the day its just another tool in the toolbox.
I dig the "blue tape mod" on the crankcase cover. :P
Rocco Cataldo Just keeping it clean haha
I'm assuming a square somewhere could notify YT and Fab could be demonetized. Can't say the seven dirty words anymore, because they hurt people's feelz haha!
I really like being able to do my own welding with my everlast tig welder. Keep these videos coming because I'm sure learning a lot.
I love the look of a pie cut,,i want to do my turbo manifold,down pipe,and intercooler pipe with pie cut,,alot of work a lot of weld but cool looking
Nice looking bike and good looking pipes with great sound.
You can buy a complete V8 header kit from many of the online speed shops in steel for 100 to 200 bucks and have it coated for cheaper.The Shoguns would be really great for the boutique builder.
I can see them saving a lot of time and being easier to use for the beginner. And that is part of fabricating knowing your options but they still look crooked to me. Nice vid as always and thanks for the ideas nice to have options.
It would be nice if they sold 2-3 pre welded, I imagine 85% of situations could be done with sets of 2-3s, and would reduce the weld time even further.
I suppose if covered with heat-wrap it will look just fine. But as a bare metal finish I think it looks like crap. I agree that the product cuts labor costs if this is important, but for a hobbyist the cost is outrageous and the product takes away from the creative experience of working from scratch. If left exposed, to me, it looks like a blatant display of money thrown at a project.
For a hobbyist it isn't really that different cost wise because you have to look at the time in the same way as a professional builder would. Would I have paid an extra 150$ to save 3-5hours of my free time on the exhaust fab that I could spend on the paint or somewhere else on the project when I was working and at school 50-60hours a week and building in my free time. Fuck yes I would.
As for looks, thats always a personal thing, I'm not a huge fan of the scallops but I like the blued rings from.the welds for the style of bike I like and want to build for my next one.
If I was aiming for an ultra clean exhaust that looked one piece and seamless, I'd do what I've always done, work from a box of offcut and fuckup bends I acquired from a mate at an exhaust shop, mock up with welding wire and sit and make cuts and spend 15-20 hours on the thing swearing a lot and setting fire to the workbench, and ending up using 2x the length of material than I needed because I get passed off with the design or fuck up a curve or 2.
Its all about having options and tools in the toolbox, I'm never going to see we need less options or ways to make a custom part available
i play guitar,so from a guitarist point of view,its common sense.fatter the string the thicker the sound,smaller the string thinner the sound.so having said that.the thicker the metal the fatter the sound,thinner the pipe gives a more high pitched galss pack sound
Cool product and great video. But $20 a pie cut is absolutely ridiculous. The 60 cuts you received would cost me $1200 plus shipping!
Alex Kojima Initial cost is high but offset by reduced fab time.
It would be MUCH simpler and cheaper to just rent (or hell buy one) a cheap tube bender and bend the exhaust to the final shape, then chop it up and reweld.
ShadowOfDeath24 don't even chop it up to weld. Just sayn
I don't know of any off the shelf bender that could bed tight radius thin wall tubing that is cheaper than this stack of shogun cuts. You'd have to use a mandrel bender to get this tight of a bend.
@@TheFabricatorSeries cough* cough* heat and sand....
Sick bike!!!!
cool idea i think as a "jig" set up to do bends visually and then bend pipe to match specially with costly titanium/stainless but to do it and use it as an actual system to me is kind of a "swingin the rooster" approach to an exhaust
So... did it take 5 hours, 40 minutes and 32 seconds, or less than 3 hours? Just curious how much time you actualy saved :)
Jonas Karlstrom welding took over 5 hours. Fab time before welding was less than 3 hours. Total time was just under 9 hours for the entire job.
That lope is sick as F*ck. "Perfect timing"
What has been overlooked is the pipe length. For optimal performance they must be of equal length, and approximate the cylinder volume.
Bryan St.Martin Optimal is the operative word. Optimal is a point of view from the builder's perspective.
When welding on a bike or vehicle like that do you need to dis connect the battery to the vehicle? Where do you have your ground clamp connected?
that engine cover is gold
nice build! looks and sounds great ! is that your white Yukon on the video like wheels and tire setup could you tell me what setup your running?
Thanks Justin
Good morning, even this good fretting system for exhaust curves.
As soon as I have a customer who wants a great service, I buy this friend from Portugal.
Any time you saved in mockup you lost when welding around all those little rings. Gees how long did that take?
For welding of usual pie cuts same time will be required.
Most be a question from a non welder. Mandrel Bent pipe is the easiest but not the cheapest
cool vid!! ive been a pressure pipe welder for 35yrs mostley pipeline but did a lot of tig over the yrs also,where did you get the tig finger that looks like it would save on the burnt pinkys and who's red chopper was that in the parking lot is it for sale?
Cool video. Hey Justin, what size cup are you using in the final weld-up? Does that cup size afford one to use such a gigantic stick-out? Thanks man.
I love the bike and it sounds great! Great job👍
The only reason I think this bike sounds kinda cool is because I don’t think I’ve heard something like this haha. It sounds like less beefy for some reason. Idk what’s different but it sounds more like a sports bike almost. Like less rumble. Sounds clean and good but different.
When you tacked up the cuts did you use HF Start or Lift Arc. will HF Start Fry the computer or electronics in a bike or car
Great idea, looks sharp!
sound is effin badass man!
Great sound and looks better than the old set.. but great build and weld on both
Really cool idea but I could never justify that kind of cost
right, $20 each x 60 of them = $1200 .!.
If you factor in the time and everything it might be worth it. If you want your bike back sooner than later also, time is money. Depending on what the hourly rate of the fabricator is, if it saves 2 hours of labor @100$ an hour or more, you could get 10+ shogun cuts for the same price and have the product done 2 hours earlier.
as a professional fabricator i couldnt justify the cost at all. not when a 10 foot section of tube (enough to do several of these motorcycle exhausts) costs as much as a single shogun cut. the price is just not viable imo. any fabricator that has the skill to attract a customer willing to pay 1200 dollars for an exhaust should be able to do a pie cut exhaust from regular tubing that looks just as good if not better in a reasonable time frame.
Great video ! No more tacking. Since it's thicker, does that make it stronger?
Love the bike!!!
How much do the shoguns blue after riding for a while? I'm guessing that straight section turns a lot faster than the cuts, but still curious to see how it looks after a few good rides.
i never worked on a bike myself but this is awsome
Well this just reconfirmed what I've always said, "a mandrel tubing Bender is your friend."
to cool! I love your bike, great fabrication skills, nice video, nice bike, I'm jealous I didn't think of it first
unbelievable bike man
Ha! Great idea, stupid pricepoint. I guess I'll just make my own lipped piecuts on the lathe. They also won't have the scalloped look and will be as light as normal piecuts. Both of these are advantages over the shoguns in my mind.
So... How much to do a 4 into 1 into 2 on my ZX10? Tuned of course.
Off topic but how you like the everlast welders behind you? Ive been looking into them and was wondering on your take on them since you know about them
Great video as always. I'm still new to TIG and trying to pick up everything I can but one question I've had is, what is that towel/pad you put under your hand when your resting your hand on the workpeice? Is that so you can move around the workpeice in a smooth motion? I've never seen one of those until I started watching your videos. Thanks and keep the videos, I've learned a TON.
Shelvin Singh That's a spark plug boot to keep the heat down. Jody from Welding Tips and Tricks sells the TIG Finger which is more effective. Mine always seem to find their way to other peoples fingers and disappear, so I just use spark plug boots. Nobody steals them.
The Fabrication Series thank you. Right after asking you I saw Abom79 using it as well haha
use PET tape to hold them in place for mock up
NICE
Whats the crimped or bowed middle section do? If they had that lip and recessed ends and not the bowed middle section i think i'd like it that way more. Looks cleaner.
Okay, i understand possibly why they have the bowed section. Possibly when you weld it it has that "WMWMWMWM" look.
The scallop is for looks I guess. It could be argued that it's for weight reduction, but you'd have to ask Jesse why he did it haha. I just build with them.... I think it would be neat to have the option with or without the scallops but I like the look with them. It's like a signature look where someone knows you have the product.
Do they make them in all sizes and no scalps I'm guessing they do, I would like to build my turbo manifolds with them. Where did you say you can order those thro ?
Matthew Randolph Right now there are only a few sizes. Rumor has it more are coming soon. Check out ticonindustries.com
The Fabrication Series
kick ass, fast reply too thanks man. I don't care for the "scalps" but I'm gonna look into it !!
Hey Justin I’ve noticed in a load of you videos when your Tig welding you have you tungsten is quite far out why is that ? What’s the reason and pro and cons ?
Pros, keeps your Tig torch cleaner
Cons, more argon use and higher amperage required.
Who builds those frames? I’m looking for a nice drop seat chopper frame.
@tfs ...... did you ever rebuild your Mighty Max after the accident? That was a badass build.
MrStacy1974 Nope. The person I was in the accident with was not insured so my only choice to recover loss was to part out and scrap. It was sad to see it go, but I can always build another.
The Fabrication Series that sucks, I was following the build at the time because my Courier used a similar spindle. Not ro mention my intention to out right plagiarise .... lol
At 1200 bucks for 60 pieces they would be best invested for mock up. Just imagine gow much a gt40 style bundle of snakes set of pipes would be and then att say 40 oz times 8 pipes.
I think it would of looked better without that straight pipe section,you should of used all shogun pieces.Then it would of looked like artwork.
Is the exterior radius/scallop witnessed on the id? How is the lip transition on id?
That idle is gonna cook that motor
That would work great for a high roller.
That short, non stepped and wide open, mid range power killers, but as long as there's people who don't know any better and think that cause it's louder it's running faster there'll always be someone making a fortune.
i see that you clean all your metal or pipes that u weld would starting fluid be a bad idea to use for cleaning pipes before welding them
Nothing like straight pipes to Rob your horsepower!! But they sound good.
How would they rob you of power if you tuned for them?
You can tune all you want but straight pipes will rob your horsepower!! They have dyno runs all over the inet to prove it, don't take my word for it.
I'm just trying to understand how they would rob you of power.
Do you know how or why they would?
EDIT: Nevermind, I found some info. It says the effect is minimal at only 2% - 3% and this below.
"A straight pipe, for example, can cause exhaust gas velocity to increase. This will likely reduce engine performance below 2,000 or 2,500 RPM, making your vehicle a little slower to launch from a stoplight. Your engine may show more horsepower on a dyno - and might even finish the quarter mile a little faster - but it won’t be faster on the street."
Not enough to worry too much about IMO.
I have been tuning Harleys for a long time and trust me straight pipes rob your horsepower, you always ride your bike under 3000 RPM unless you have a dragbike but even a dragbike you want some type of megaphone, like I said they sound great.
Ok, thanks for answering, I appreciate it.
Would be useful for parts of the pipe.
Fuckn game changer.. why didn't I think of this.
These are Titanium? Right? I think everyone is assuming it is stainless steel. But if you look at it being $20 a piece for Titanium it is a little easier to justify the cost.
hello my friend, well, I'm here from Brazil, could you tell me what material this is that you use to cover the ends of the tube ???
What's the name of the bike uses in the video..i really like the position of the footrests..
What cup are you using?
Sweet
Man, they could do same designs but different diameters and thicknesses for other applications
Those pipes look like a couple of Mongolian " Death " Worms copulating ...
This is a joke right? Just go an get a bunch of mandrel bend elbows and go from there. Far less welding and a finished look instead of piecemeal.
Do they make them in 2.50
Great but how much are they
So after you fab it up with those things. Take that pipe profile to a mandrel bending shop and have it done properly in seamless pipe so there is no edges to create turbulence inside the pipe which WILL happen with all those pieces.
This is how a backyard hack makes an exhaust. If youve never had a formal education in pneumatics and hydraulics then you wouldn't know how bad a little edge or angle in a pipe adds turbulence to the flow.
if 3 pounds is much depends on the application i guess... on a chopper it wont make a difference because the whole thing is just heavy as hell
looks like something a RUB would buy
I’m sorry, what were those called again?🤔 Awesome job, loved the sound.
Shogun cuts
Where was the ground clamp located when tacking this together?
Derek collins foot peg
The welding table
i know this vid is 2 years old but my thoughts too.
wonder how much longer the engine lasted
@@Franksssss I imagined arcing through the bearings...uggh.
$20 a piece, I don't think so.......
Guess Jesse forgot about some us work for a living, why would I pay that! The point of building your own or for someone is so can save a lil money you just as well buy cookie cutter pipes for that kind of money and call it a day!
Looks like flex pipe.
They collectively look like hvac aluminum bendable tubing like you went to home depot and bought some hvac duct tube slapped it on your bike. Kind of strange looking.
Nice bike..
Damn bro, stick out much? Just busting your balls, cool series.
talkin Italian handyman
Muito top :D
Milton Brazil!!!
Why would you want anything Jessie James on your bike?
Hair Razor lol he’s just a personality/celebrity now. He builds sand castles
That exhaust should have looked better I didn’t think it was that great
How uncomfortable does that dude look on that bike
the scallops make it look crappy
Why not just buy the plastic snap together pie cuts there reusable there cheap snap them shape them then messure cut your pipe bend it done.
thunder god Because you wouldn't have pie cuts is you use bends. The point of pie cuts is to keep them pie cuts. It the end user wants bends, they'll use bends instead.
ok, $20 per pie is crazy, i get the time savings but at that price i dont see it saving any money
they call them shot gun cuts because someone has to hold a gun on you to buy them
I have always thought this 'pie cut' and 'lobster cut' stuff looks like somebody was too ghetto to buy proper fuckin' mandrel bends.
The only reason I could see for this product is to mock up - so you can cut some bends to the correct angles.
20$ a piece :O
The chances of Lawrence Desmedt ever using these? once and only when he didn't have to pay for them, lol.
It looks like the flex vent on the back of my clothes dryer. And that kit only set me back about $15... No disrespect intended to the quality of your work.
So the money goes to the supplier while the builders loses some cash. Besides that,those scallops just don't cut it for 20 bucks a pop. Imagine the cost for v8 headers,way out of my range for sure. Good video though, something new on the motorsport market.
I can see the time saved but the cost of just too high for most home guys.
Would never pass inspection where I live, too loud!
Well done great Fab for a sexy ass bike
I dig short pipes (with baffles) but the position of these pipes are horrible. right underneath the pegs where your foot will be? Yikes!