Keo & Zels are bemused by Ireland's reputation as the world's best team when they have not made it to a World Cup semi-final in 37 years. #Springboks #Ireland
This show got me much closer to game pre -world cup, as a newly adopted sport for me, this show made me understand the nuances of the game clearer.....you okes must give us a weekly shot of the banter , at least....Good job
Just wanted to say gents that this is a top rugby Pod to listen to. I'm an Irishman listening in for the first time and love getting the Bok point of view, not just about the upcoming tests but the game we all love in general. Great stuff lads, cheers
What a great idea, bru find Eggchaser Tim he is class and on his first visit to South Africa and reporting to a big northen following. What a great idea !!!
Silence is golden golden 🎉 Wouldn’t it be a laugh for little Ireland to win the series.. 200 professional players vs 1000s 😜 can’t wait. Talk is cheap. Not taking anything away from the WC champs of course. Are NZ players all originally from NZ🤔
The level of bitterness from these boys is brilliant. Thers 3 non irish born players. Our best player 5 years ago was Sexton. Our best player now is Beirne. The banter... at least you try boys!
At least they try? Yes it's very tongue in cheek. But you're coming across as the bitter one. They say multiple times how good irish rugby is after the jokes. So lighten up. Let me stoke your ego for you. Irish rugby is amazing. We'd all be poorer without it. That's your opinion. Aki was certainly mvp in the world cup. Gibson Park not far behind. That's my opinion. Ps. It's Beirne not Berine
Sheehan, Keenan, Dorris, Porter, Crowley, JVDF, Furlong, Ringrose, POM... How many more Irish than them can you get I'd also have Dorris, Ringrose and Sheehan with TB as our stand outs all world class or so the world team of the year would say but hey Saffetts only think we play Kiwis, bless 'em
@@joelyons886You're calling out all the class irish-borne players? I'd have to agree. Class around the park. Could list most of the team. Don't be drawn into the media-hype. Proper SA rugby fans know and respect that. I was calling out the fact that Aki was the stand-out player from Ireland despite what yer maan thinks You disagree?
@Tomk79rhby our 3 stand out players and most important ones the last several years less Sexton haven’t changed, Taigh Beirne, Garry Ringrose and Hugo Keenan any of my SA friends cringe at some of the crap getting spouted at the moment and think it's digging a big hole as if the Boks don't win and win well this will be one hell of an open season on your media they might want to be mindful that last year we were ridiculed and laughed at by the NZ media heck they erected posters and billboards OUTSIDE THE TEAM HOTEL saying how they were going to beat us... how'd that work out for them? Every Bok/Irl game I’ve been to I meet and see real fans but Christ your media and online tits are a level above all other they are delusional at best and down right thick at worst
Munster and Ireland fan here, love watching South Africa play and to end this... if you win the world cup you are definitely the best team in the world.. if you can't get out of a quarter final... you for sure ain't super excited for the series though
Hey guys - commentary in the Irish media is much more measured, acknowledging that taking on the world champions is no walk in the park - the Irish do not see themselves as favorites here, far from it. Talking up (imagined) Irish arrogance is just tactical.
Saffa in Ireland here. Will we be singing after the game " what's in your head, in your head .. Rassie Rassie Rassssaeeee.." :) moer hulle stikkend ouns 😆
@Lemass_200 Oh, we have many rugby songs, but this one is salt in the eye and bitter in the mouth, changing it to Rassie -for you guys.. lol, just a bit of crack 🤣
Sheehan, Dorris, Beirne, Keenan, furlong, porter, ringrose, henshaw - all world class Irish born players lads. Only foreigner on the pitch yesterday when we beat you was Lowe.
Lads Ireland isn’t a rugby nation, it’s a GAA nation (Irish traditional spots of Gaelic and hurling). So many people don’t understand that rugby is the 5th most played sport In Ireland , a country of 7/8 million people … no one that isn’t an idiot can argue it’s a massive achievement how good Ireland are. We have 0 right beating England / SA / France but do constantly ,. Think people can’t cope with that
@@Alias-gy3tzI mean it’s literally like saying SA are expected to beat Fiji every game (which they are). Fiji has 3 times more rugby players than Ireland 🤣 sometimes I don’t know if it’s stupidity, or just trying to wind people up. Ireland has 0 right beating France / England / SA / NZ but we do constantly .. either way hope you get satisfaction from it 👌🏻
We may need to slow down with us beating the Kiwis twice, don't forget we've got a very good Kiwi coach in Tony Brown. A little like Jacques Nienaber talking to Rassie once a week 😆
Can you guys name these Irish journalists that claim that Ireland is the best team in the world! You have endless discussions about something that never happened! Bizarre stuff!
It's a great question, coz I hear a lot of kak from south Africans sprouting tons of kakapoopoo. It hilarious 😂😂how they claim to be the roughest,toughest wild dogs and allarande tipe poes snot enough drol, but only win by one point alot.
It's all Ger Gilroy on Off The Ball's fault 😄. But saffers need to realise that rugby is no.4 in Ireland, so every commentary has to also be a selling piece
fantastic trevorm yes these 2 blokes are sa rugby finnish and klaar ie you dont get beter they are super fair and really funny and a great insight to world rugby i support them all the way regards wayne
Jesus, lads!!! I used to like this show, but you completely lost me at 'Ireland is the McDonalds of rugby'. WTF???? You guys need to brush up on your rugby history. We're one of the oldest rugby nations in the world. Much older the SA. Aviva/Lansdowne Road is also the oldest rugby ground in the world. In what way does that make us 'Johnny come latelys' to the rugby scene. Or ' a franchise' as you put it.? We may not have been as successful as other countries in the amateur days because we had tiny playing numbers and were competing against Gaelic sports. Professionalism levelled up the playing field for Ireland in 2000.
yea thats kinda the reaction they are hoping for. they are having a bit of fun with it. its probably not a serious take though, just trying to have fun with it banter etc
Yeah and now you're already making excuses with no JGP and Hugo. In our match we didn't have a kicker and missed our best jackler in Marx but that didn't stop the Irish from running wild.
@karatekid-nq6ct irish fans celebrated winning a game against SA in the world cup, is that not the whole point of being a fan, celebrate ur teams success and drink away the loses
@troywilliams9367 rugby in ireland is a minority sport so its an after thought to most irish people as well. I love rugby but most of my friends couldn't care less. On sat most irish people will be watching the euros and gaa hurling. So for SA to lose to Ireland that often is crazy when u consider how big rugby is in SA compared to Ireland
Love mark as a columnist,especially during allister coetzee's reign with the boks.when he was speaking the truth about him not being fit to coach the boks.he got a lot of flak but he was proven right,but one thing i did not know is that his sense of humour is even more impressive.
It’s a good mix of analysis and banter . A bit like Rassie himself don’t think the lads genuinely believe some of the stuff they say but it’s good banter and people should stop getting their knickers in a twist !
Personally think a 5-3 split with both Manie and Sacha on the bench when they come on watch Sacha kick and take over at 15 when Willie comes off. Then Manie will focus on field play without the pressure of kicking this game will flow.
All pressure on SA..everyone thinking they'll win, all the chat from their camp and fans, back to back WCs, at home, at ALTITUDE, Rassie is a god knows everything. You can try and gaslight all you like lads. If Ireland win, absolute embarrassment for SA in their own house and in front of the world 😂
AND less Sexton... Keenan... Conan... JGP hahaha fkme they will be hiding or doing the usual, Ref Officials TMO Travel (oh wait they are at home they can't use that one!) hahaha the excuses will be thick and fast oh Rassie is building oh we were missing players oh we were experimenting
Are you trolls obsessing over what trolls say? No self-respecting SA fan would think that. Ireland is a very strong, well-coached side. I'd say, as an SA fan, that the springboks are only just favourites, but there's no shame in losing to such a class side.
@joelyons886 and SA are without players too. I've seen many excuses about the Irish lads being tired after a long season, being without JGP and HK, and being tired. Noise from both sides.
@@Tomk79rhby both sides have "fans" that are acting like dicks and that is what it is BUT what I really can't stand and something that as an ex-player would never do and that's having current players slag and call out current players Eben and DAA to say and act the way they are is sick I've never heard any of the Irish players currently playing ever call out or disrespect the way that SA players have that is unforgivable and rather stupid Also maybe people in SA need a reminder of where Rassie lived and worked and how many close friends he has as well as current and past coaches that have all come from....... short memories
@joelyons886 what are you on about? Did you read my comments? You've just repeated what I said about trolls from both sides. Re the players comments. Don't you understand banter? Conor Murray gave it back. Don't be so sensitive. Just enjoy the rugby. It will be great craic
Agree with one comment here reference...."best team in the world ", only people trying to annoy the south Africans would suggest that we are better than south Africa, well we're not and not even close, this should be a very comfortable 2 nil series win against a tired and probably disinterested irish team, they've beaten them already in the world cup, south Africa are due a win against them, no pressure 😂
Tired of what? Making semi-finals and finals and falling over the last hurdle every single time for three years in a row? We share the same season. Tired is not cutting it.
@@Kenny-zn6dlyou're the one prefacing this with excuses 😂. Not much to choose between the teams. Irish lads should have more chemistry having played together more. Pro athletes though. Should be fine Sa should be a bit fresher but rustier having not played together. I wouldn't bet on the outcome but would favour SA because of home ground advantage this time
@Tomk79rhby You're right Tom, if we play well in Pretoria then we can thank Andy Farrell for it, Cullen for leinster and rowntree in munster are not fit for purpose, two clueless coaches ruining club rugby in Ireland, don't know how Cullen is still head coach with leinster, if Farrell can get into our boy's heads and get them purring again then it could be a war, wouldn't surprise me if o mahony or porter or even etezebeth get red cards, going to be ferocious 😃
The All Blacks failed at world cups from 1987 to 2011 but were considered the best team in the world for much of that period. The best football team doesn't win every Champions League or FIFA world cup. That's knockout sports.
FYI Since the WC not a single irish media or anyone in Ireland ever said " we are best in the world" Its so bizarre how this rubbish evolved./ Yes of course for 17 months we were ranked World no 1pre WC in the official world rankings (which all the ireland players think a load of bollix by the way) after an impressive run of wins. After the WC and during the 6N Welsh ex player Warburton wrote an article saying we were best in the world..raising eyebrows in Ireland. and everywhere Then others from our 6N rivails jumped on board..Jim Hamiltion (Scottish) and even Bothwich English head coach said it many times before the meet in Twickenham, Of course both Saffas and the Kiwis assumed it was us and our 6N rivals fed this narrative knowing you would and amping it as part of the mind games...bastards. LOL
@@Tomk79rhby I’m not in the least obsessed nor are Irish fans and commentators! Can you point me to the all the TH-cam videos taking about S.A. rugby media?
You missed the point lad. I very clearly agreed with you and said "let them be". And stared that it was hypocritical that you were here, on a south african channel/video, posturing about south Africans not accepting impartiality. Why don't you accept that a south african channel doesn't have to be impartial? Ergo - hypocrite
@@Tomk79rhby I’m not making that point at all! When did I say say a SA channel should be impartial? Your argument is a bit like SA commentators complaining about the Irish media saying Ireland is the world’s best team when in fact nobody in the Irish media is saying this. Sorry but I don’t think you understand what the word hypocrite means!
38-3,19-16 and 13-8. That's all you need to know. And here's another one for you, 31-12. South Africa is not NZ or France. Do you know what we say in Ireland when we are about to play the Boks ? "Its only South Africa". When you are up against the mighty ABs or the flamboyant French you know that you are up against it, but SA ? Really ? Its comical hearing the SA media branding the Irish media as being arrogant. Confidence is not arrogance. When you have stuffed the team that you are about to play so emphatically in your last 3 encounters you can't be anything but confident of doing it again. That's called common sense confidence. As for the baby Boks, do tell, how did they fare in the Semi finals against Ireland in last years World Cup Semi-final ? If Ireland is arrogant then I think its fair to say that you guys are deluded. Like when you predicted a 30 point victory for the Stormers in last years URC final. That didn't work out too well for you now did it. We don't dislike South African Rugby but you sure do a good job of promoting the dislike.
. Ireland have 3 sports before rugby and a fraction of your population. Ireland deserves a lot more respect. Our history is literally David vs Goliath played out again and again . We are tough. We beat the Vikings out of our country followed by the Brit’s. We will laugh and drink with you but Don’t fuck with is bru! 🇮🇪🔥😎
Sorry but an error in your podcast. The Boks have only beaten the AB's 39 times, not 40. Will you broadcast a correction? Ho ho congrats on being no 1 and world champions, the Bokke 2023 finals performance was v impressive. I am picking Boks by ten points this weekend.
I can't wait for the South African fans to sing "In your heaaaad, in you heeeaaad....Rassie, Rassie, Rasssie" while playing Ireland at home, just to remind them that the song belong to us now. EDIT: Someone in the comments just made me aware that Dolores has passed, I had no idea all this time. As someone who listens to The Cranberries a lot, her tragic death changed my tune regarding this song. Apologies to the Irish people, and to my fellow South Africans feel free to kick me in the nuts.
1884 first irish rugby team 1891 first south african rugby team !! Do your research before you start insulting ireland!! Your podcast is a bit late this week !! I wonder why !!
Some fierce cheeky takes. Absolute neck of the two of you. Where is the arrogance in the Irish rugby team? No wonder Irish people have something against SAFFA commentators.
Its an irrelevant game, Ireland at their wekest for years and the players running on empty after a 13 month season, SA are hyping this game big time as they know everything is stacked in their favour. Wouldn't surprise me if at least 1 boks player is red carded, unless Ben O'Keefe is the ref as he'll probably not see any SA foul play.
Ireland aren't actually arrogant if that's your stance, largely hyped up by the media and rugby being a more well-to-do sport here. So there inevitably some arrogant fans. Kind of sad to use a clickbait title if you're really looking for more views. Being current nations champions does not equal dreamers. By the sounds of it, plenty of bell end punters and fans in SA if you think like that
@Blindside_Flanker 7 whole months, wow that is impressive lol. Does that mean u can now focus on ur 45% unemployment rate, horrendous economy or grim crime rates?
As a proud Irishman and also boks fan there really is no need for SA mind games 😅 boks are back to back world champs for a reason, they are the BEST! Ireland can still beat them of course as we have in the world cup itself but SA have that X factor that Ireland simply don't and the ability to win when it matters, again something Ireland seriously lacks! Gonna be a great test series that hopefully we can bring home. Good luck to both teams 😊
Ireland would need their full side to be able to compete or win. They don't have the saffer strength in depth. Theres a big drop off from JGP, Keenan, Conan, Hansen... Saffers by 12 this weekend
SA could win a cricket game and even win the Cricket World Cup, they just have to get the rules changed so they can smash into their opponents and stop them playing, clearly thats how they win rugby games especially against smaller countries who don't have a strong bench.
I'm Australian born, raised by South African dad and English mum in New Zealand. I see the All Blacks as the worlds best team. Boks beat them 2-1 last year but both of the wins required red cards to the All Blacks, which is something people tend to forget. You can argue that's a discipline problem but I see it as more of a problem with how arbitrarily applied the rules are. We don't see the best team winning, we see the team that survives the wrath of referee interpretation winning. It's kind of always been like that though, with the All Blacks themselves benefiting from some favourable refereeing over the last 20 years. Boks never got the proper chance to silence all doubters though as their opposition was maimed to play a man down for 65 minutes of the world cup final...and even with 14 guys they seemed like a better team than South Africa. in order i'd go with All Blacks, Ireland, Springboks, France, England, Scotland, Argentina, Wales, Wallabies, Fiji
@@gregcampbell86 I think most people would agree that the state of refereeing is highly inconsistent at this point. And the elephant in the room is that the Springboks have won 3 world cup finals without scoring a try. Scoring system needs to be reformed, possibly synchronised with Rugby Leagues.
@Waywind420 I think the problem is more with the rules themselves than the refereeing. Everyone plays with the same rules, and both teams have the same ref. The sad truth is that NZ was...... by far the most ill disciplined team in the world cup. They haven't learned how to safely tackle and the cards are deserved. Im not sure what the comment about trys in a final is trying to prove. Clearly...... trys aren't a requirement of winning a WC final. That might annoy you, but try or no try the trophy is still in South Africa's Cabinet....... for a 4th time. Blaming the ref honestly is the weakest excuse and only serves to prove that you're ore losers. Studying how the ref does his job is part of the game. Maybe spend more time learning to tackle safely, than crying about the ref.
@@gregcampbell86 I don't go for the All Blacks, it's a shame I even have to defend them. They don't need to ''learn how to tackle better'' they simply did what every other team does and got punished for it. I watched the french vs nz under 20s game yesterday and both sides were high tackling and shoulder charging each other in full view of the referee and he repeatedly ignored it half the time...he arbitrarily decides to apply the laws when it suits him. Keep an eye on the referee throughout any game and you'll see them put the whistle in their mouth to blow a penalty, only to not blow the whistle and carry the game on. They're indecisive and cherry picking the rules. If same Canes high tackle was a red card then so is Kolisi's , but that didn't happen. Saying '' go watch league'' to anyone who thinks the game is in a poor state is reductive and nonsensical. I want to watch union but i want union to be better than it currently is. It's devolved as a sport.
Good show again lads. Ja, Ireland might be missing G.Park. but they forget that they played us in the world cup without Marx. It's a different story with that specimen in the mix.
Love these two jokers there up for the craic mark a piss taker lol id lovey us to beat ye sat but cant see it for one boks players wouldent get out of ground alive if they Lost😂
If C J Stander was Irelands best player, how come the only win on SA soil was when he got sent off and Ireland beat the boks with 14 men? I'm sure there are lots of excuses as per usual.
Guys...we gonna have to start talking about this Libbok situation. The man is a liability because of his kicking. Siya Magic is money when he kicks. Let's be real, when Libbok is about to kick, we have that feeling in our hearts and stomachs. I think Libbok needs to be relegated before he costs us a World Cup.
Mate you got it wrong. We owe Ireland a twickenham statement score. None of this 1 point nonsense. This is the" see we held back in the pools " game. Dbn can be close but Loftus must be a proper snot klap
8 out of 12 losses, nearly as bad as your record against the Abs since neutral referees came in after 1976. Should be great games but you didn't hold back at the rwc, that's fantasy
I doubt it. There's massive appetite for this game in SA it seems. But the narrative that Ireland think they're the best is very overblown and comes from outside of Ireland mostly and 1 bad media outlet over here. I hope we give you the game you want but tbh our team(s) just look......tired or something. Hopefully it's 2 great contests. Go well.
This isn't going to be that competitive, SA should win by 10pts + each match. I just want to see some new blood come through and good set piece. Great show boys, loving the baiting, well played gents
Looking forward to the test at Loftus, but can someone please have a word with the stadium DJ to not make it all about himself again. Please and thank you
About Zels. When I worked in-house for the Stormers and the Bok offical magazines under Craig Ray, Zels would contribute occasionally and his articles were just so much better than mine, it was actually so embarrasing. I teach maths now.
Good to see you back, boys. South Africa will have too much for Ireland; they are just missing too many players like Gibson-Park, Keenan, etc., and they don't have the squad depth of the Springboks. However, travelling down to Durbs to support Ireland and two quality teams playing each other so it should be a great series.
This show got me much closer to game pre -world cup, as a newly adopted sport for me, this show made me understand the nuances of the game clearer.....you okes must give us a weekly shot of the banter , at least....Good job
As a fan since birth, welcome. Enjoy the ride.
Careful, some idiots influence u and U think it's gud advice
@@tiaanbezuidenhout8131right, U popped out, said put the telly on I wanna watch boks.
And then found urself wanting to get back in ever since
Just wanted to say gents that this is a top rugby Pod to listen to. I'm an Irishman listening in for the first time and love getting the Bok point of view, not just about the upcoming tests but the game we all love in general. Great stuff lads, cheers
Simple folk. Braai, biltong, rugby.
Luv the show boys , can't wait to meet the boks later in the year 💪 support from Auckland New Zealand 💯😎
The Boks aren't coming to NZ this year. Where are you planning on meeting them? Brisbane?
@@bkrause4424if it’s Ellis park thats a home ground for the ABs
Please invite and have a sit down with Tim from Eggchasers. He is currently in SA and what a fantastic rugby mind
We are planning to have Tim on for the All Blacks Test later in the year
That will be great. Thank you. Tim seems a good person and loves his rugby. Cheers from Durban @SARugbymagcoza32-12
What a great idea, bru find Eggchaser Tim he is class and on his first visit to South Africa and reporting to a big northen following. What a great idea !!!
Massive fan. I really missed you boys!!!
Ricky if you can pull off that accent and mannerism long enough, Breaking Bad reboot will be hitting you up!
Silence is golden golden 🎉 Wouldn’t it be a laugh for little Ireland to win the series.. 200 professional players vs 1000s 😜 can’t wait. Talk is cheap. Not taking anything away from the WC champs of course.
Are NZ players all originally from NZ🤔
I'm Irish but live here support the boks. I have a rugby jersey 50% Irish/bok emblazoned and I piss em all off saying I can't lose
😂😂half are bloody islanders, but so r u
@user-qe1tv1bu2f nz is an island with a lot of pacific islanders including Maori
Ireland might have a functioning economy, low crime, no unemployment and electricity but they dont have the webb ellis which is all that matters
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U sound like u have the mental grasp of Soweto now?
@@Lem_200
Our 60 million don't have much sway in anything
The level of bitterness from these boys is brilliant. Thers 3 non irish born players. Our best player 5 years ago was Sexton. Our best player now is Beirne. The banter... at least you try boys!
At least they try?
Yes it's very tongue in cheek. But you're coming across as the bitter one. They say multiple times how good irish rugby is after the jokes. So lighten up. Let me stoke your ego for you. Irish rugby is amazing. We'd all be poorer without it.
That's your opinion. Aki was certainly mvp in the world cup. Gibson Park not far behind. That's my opinion.
Ps. It's Beirne not Berine
Sheehan, Keenan, Dorris, Porter, Crowley, JVDF, Furlong, Ringrose, POM... How many more Irish than them can you get I'd also have Dorris, Ringrose and Sheehan with TB as our stand outs all world class or so the world team of the year would say but hey Saffetts only think we play Kiwis, bless 'em
@@joelyons886You're calling out all the class irish-borne players? I'd have to agree. Class around the park. Could list most of the team. Don't be drawn into the media-hype. Proper SA rugby fans know and respect that.
I was calling out the fact that Aki was the stand-out player from Ireland despite what yer maan thinks You disagree?
Try twist my comment. Shame on you. Yer maan was trying twist narrative innit?
@Tomk79rhby our 3 stand out players and most important ones the last several years less Sexton haven’t changed, Taigh Beirne, Garry Ringrose and Hugo Keenan any of my SA friends cringe at some of the crap getting spouted at the moment and think it's digging a big hole as if the Boks don't win and win well this will be one hell of an open season on your media they might want to be mindful that last year we were ridiculed and laughed at by the NZ media heck they erected posters and billboards OUTSIDE THE TEAM HOTEL saying how they were going to beat us... how'd that work out for them? Every Bok/Irl game I’ve been to I meet and see real fans but Christ your media and online tits are a level above all other they are delusional at best and down right thick at worst
Nz vs SA tours is going to be like the Ashes!
Your country is in ashes mate
@@Lem_200 didn't you hear? We have a GNU now 😁😬
@@CptRumcanshame he doesn't know . 😂 GNU will fix everything 🤞
@@viwekenneth6028 we shouldn't blame them, they dono what we know 🤣
Munster and Ireland fan here, love watching South Africa play and to end this... if you win the world cup you are definitely the best team in the world.. if you can't get out of a quarter final... you for sure ain't super excited for the series though
U must also be proud of Ireland, great team its only a matter of time before they win world cup
Ireland are an incredible, scary team. I am super excited but also NERVOUS! That is how we know it's going to be good. It a clash of the Greens. 🇿🇦
Hey guys - commentary in the Irish media is much more measured, acknowledging that taking on the world champions is no walk in the park - the Irish do not see themselves as favorites here, far from it. Talking up (imagined) Irish arrogance is just tactical.
Jesus Irelands really pissed in their chips
Saffa in Ireland here. Will we be singing after the game " what's in your head, in your head .. Rassie Rassie Rassssaeeee.." :) moer hulle stikkend ouns 😆
Hope it stays fine for ye
What's the song about apartheid? How does that one go?
Learn the history of the song. Cnut
Nah mate. Get your own song.
@Lemass_200 Oh, we have many rugby songs, but this one is salt in the eye and bitter in the mouth, changing it to Rassie -for you guys.. lol, just a bit of crack 🤣
@@juanpierreboschit’s craic.. not crack.. and if you live in Ireland and make fun of the zombie song you must not know what it means
Irish fan here who has been listening to you since the SA teams joined the URC. Always great stuff!
Opa Ricky , welcome back!!
I hope we play on our traditional jerseys
The leopard skin ones?
@@sakabula2357 don't be a doos
@@douglasdejager8450 ditto
See Ur ass, no we're playing in white with leopard polka dots
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A doos is a lekker ding, Hou jou bek jy stink.
Sheehan, Dorris, Beirne, Keenan, furlong, porter, ringrose, henshaw - all world class Irish born players lads. Only foreigner on the pitch yesterday when we beat you was Lowe.
Lads Ireland isn’t a rugby nation, it’s a GAA nation (Irish traditional spots of Gaelic and hurling). So many people don’t understand that rugby is the 5th most played sport In Ireland , a country of 7/8 million people … no one that isn’t an idiot can argue it’s a massive achievement how good Ireland are. We have 0 right beating England / SA / France but do constantly ,. Think people can’t cope with that
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@@Alias-gy3tzI mean it’s literally like saying SA are expected to beat Fiji every game (which they are). Fiji has 3 times more rugby players than Ireland 🤣 sometimes I don’t know if it’s stupidity, or just trying to wind people up. Ireland has 0 right beating France / England / SA / NZ but we do constantly .. either way hope you get satisfaction from it 👌🏻
@@pityfool23 🥱🥱🥱😴😴😴
World rugby hates The boks . But we keep winning anyway .
@@pityfool23Leave NZ outta the “ constantly “ those 4 wins an aberration, normal service has resumed!...👊👍
We may need to slow down with us beating the Kiwis twice, don't forget we've got a very good Kiwi coach in Tony Brown. A little like Jacques Nienaber talking to Rassie once a week 😆
This is hands down the best rugby podcast out there
Can you guys name these Irish journalists that claim that Ireland is the best team in the world!
You have endless discussions about something that never happened! Bizarre stuff!
It's a great question, coz I hear a lot of kak from south Africans sprouting tons of kakapoopoo. It hilarious 😂😂how they claim to be the roughest,toughest wild dogs and allarande tipe poes snot enough drol, but only win by one point alot.
@@SteveWarlee Bitter Cape Crusader? You guys are sad man. 🤣🤣🤣
Irish fans taking the bait😂😂
It's all Ger Gilroy on Off The Ball's fault 😄. But saffers need to realise that rugby is no.4 in Ireland, so every commentary has to also be a selling piece
@@philipmcdonald7370 Please enlighten us, what are your number 1-3 sports, who do you play against, and how good are you at it? Bunch of clowns.
fantastic trevorm yes these 2 blokes are sa rugby finnish and klaar ie you dont get beter they are super fair and really funny and a great insight to world rugby i support them all the way regards wayne
Jesus, lads!!! I used to like this show, but you completely lost me at 'Ireland is the McDonalds of rugby'. WTF???? You guys need to brush up on your rugby history. We're one of the oldest rugby nations in the world. Much older the SA. Aviva/Lansdowne Road is also the oldest rugby ground in the world. In what way does that make us 'Johnny come latelys' to the rugby scene. Or ' a franchise' as you put it.? We may not have been as successful as other countries in the amateur days because we had tiny playing numbers and were competing against Gaelic sports. Professionalism levelled up the playing field for Ireland in 2000.
yea thats kinda the reaction they are hoping for. they are having a bit of fun with it. its probably not a serious take though, just trying to have fun with it banter etc
Damn Ricky good to see you back buddy last saw you in FRANCE 🇫🇷 😂😂
You guys have more optimism with this GNU than I do🤣🤣
08:35 I'll take that one gents
IRFU - founded 1879
btw . . SARU - 1891
no irish players... couldn't make up that level of stupid🙄
Ireland live rent free in every saffas head 😂😂
Can you remind me how many wc Ireland have!🤣
Yeah and now you're already making excuses with no JGP and Hugo. In our match we didn't have a kicker and missed our best jackler in Marx but that didn't stop the Irish from running wild.
Na with our 64% winrate over u guys, Ireland is more of an afterthought
@karatekid-nq6ct irish fans celebrated winning a game against SA in the world cup, is that not the whole point of being a fan, celebrate ur teams success and drink away the loses
@troywilliams9367 rugby in ireland is a minority sport so its an after thought to most irish people as well. I love rugby but most of my friends couldn't care less. On sat most irish people will be watching the euros and gaa hurling. So for SA to lose to Ireland that often is crazy when u consider how big rugby is in SA compared to Ireland
Love mark as a columnist,especially during allister coetzee's reign with the boks.when he was speaking the truth about him not being fit to coach the boks.he got a lot of flak but he was proven right,but one thing i did not know is that his sense of humour is even more impressive.
It’s a good mix of analysis and banter . A bit like Rassie himself don’t think the lads genuinely believe some of the stuff they say but it’s good banter and people should stop getting their knickers in a twist !
Rassie is a gobshite, he is like a poor version of Eddies Jones.
Keo is a rugby ensiclopedia
What a privilege to listen to them.
I love this program
PROTEAS were fantastic. Almost. Give them credit, considering the politics were gruesome before they left to play a World Cup. ❤
Manie shouldn't be 1 or 2. Sacha should be 2 and Manie 3.
Not any of those options are gud enough
Personally think a 5-3 split with both Manie and Sacha on the bench when they come on watch Sacha kick and take over at 15 when Willie comes off. Then Manie will focus on field play without the pressure of kicking this game will flow.
Ricky’s back!
All pressure on SA..everyone thinking they'll win, all the chat from their camp and fans, back to back WCs, at home, at ALTITUDE, Rassie is a god knows everything.
You can try and gaslight all you like lads.
If Ireland win, absolute embarrassment for SA in their own house and in front of the world 😂
AND less Sexton... Keenan... Conan... JGP hahaha fkme they will be hiding or doing the usual, Ref Officials TMO Travel (oh wait they are at home they can't use that one!) hahaha the excuses will be thick and fast oh Rassie is building oh we were missing players oh we were experimenting
Are you trolls obsessing over what trolls say?
No self-respecting SA fan would think that. Ireland is a very strong, well-coached side. I'd say, as an SA fan, that the springboks are only just favourites, but there's no shame in losing to such a class side.
@joelyons886 and SA are without players too.
I've seen many excuses about the Irish lads being tired after a long season, being without JGP and HK, and being tired. Noise from both sides.
@@Tomk79rhby both sides have "fans" that are acting like dicks and that is what it is BUT what I really can't stand and something that as an ex-player would never do and that's having current players slag and call out current players Eben and DAA to say and act the way they are is sick I've never heard any of the Irish players currently playing ever call out or disrespect the way that SA players have that is unforgivable and rather stupid Also maybe people in SA need a reminder of where Rassie lived and worked and how many close friends he has as well as current and past coaches that have all come from....... short memories
@joelyons886 what are you on about? Did you read my comments? You've just repeated what I said about trolls from both sides. Re the players comments. Don't you understand banter? Conor Murray gave it back. Don't be so sensitive. Just enjoy the rugby. It will be great craic
this show made the world cup so fucking awesome, thanks so much to both you guys and EggChasers!
Agree with one comment here reference...."best team in the world ", only people trying to annoy the south Africans would suggest that we are better than south Africa, well we're not and not even close, this should be a very comfortable 2 nil series win against a tired and probably disinterested irish team, they've beaten them already in the world cup, south Africa are due a win against them, no pressure 😂
Tired of what? Making semi-finals and finals and falling over the last hurdle every single time for three years in a row?
We share the same season. Tired is not cutting it.
@UlrichHoltzhausen exactly, so no excuses for south Africa to mess this up then 😂😂
@@Kenny-zn6dl Dead right.
@@Kenny-zn6dlyou're the one prefacing this with excuses 😂.
Not much to choose between the teams. Irish lads should have more chemistry having played together more. Pro athletes though. Should be fine
Sa should be a bit fresher but rustier having not played together.
I wouldn't bet on the outcome but would favour SA because of home ground advantage this time
@Tomk79rhby You're right Tom, if we play well in Pretoria then we can thank Andy Farrell for it, Cullen for leinster and rowntree in munster are not fit for purpose, two clueless coaches ruining club rugby in Ireland, don't know how Cullen is still head coach with leinster, if Farrell can get into our boy's heads and get them purring again then it could be a war, wouldn't surprise me if o mahony or porter or even etezebeth get red cards, going to be ferocious 😃
Great show as allways guys, so great you back, what jersy do the Bokke play in for the first game?
The All Blacks failed at world cups from 1987 to 2011 but were considered the best team in the world for much of that period. The best football team doesn't win every Champions League or FIFA world cup. That's knockout sports.
The best team is the one that wins in between cups and at cups. All Blacks closely followed by SA have this over history
Great show boys 👌
FYI Since the WC not a single irish media or anyone in Ireland ever said " we are best in the world" Its so bizarre how this rubbish evolved./
Yes of course for 17 months we were ranked World no 1pre WC in the official world rankings (which all the ireland players think a load of bollix by the way) after an impressive run of wins. After the WC and during the 6N Welsh ex player Warburton wrote an article saying we were best in the world..raising eyebrows in Ireland. and everywhere Then others from our 6N rivails jumped on board..Jim Hamiltion (Scottish) and even Bothwich English head coach said it many times before the meet in Twickenham, Of course both Saffas and the Kiwis assumed it was us and our 6N rivals fed this narrative knowing you would and amping it as part of the mind games...bastards. LOL
Man you two are hilarious! Love the energy 😂
Not all South Africans talk and think like these two.
Just the best ones🤘🏻🇿🇦
After a bunch of beers we all do
Great episode
Why are SA fans obsessed with the Irish media? Irish media is not the BBC and rightly make no attempt to be impartial!
Long may that continue!
Agreed. Let them be.
But why are you so obsessed with south african commentary/opinion? A bit hypocritical posting that here, no?
@@Tomk79rhby I’m not in the least obsessed nor are Irish fans and commentators!
Can you point me to the all the TH-cam videos taking about S.A. rugby media?
@@Tomk79rhby there is hardly a S.A. rugby TH-cam video that doesn’t reference the fictional Irish media constantly claiming that Ireland are the best!
You missed the point lad. I very clearly agreed with you and said "let them be". And stared that it was hypocritical that you were here, on a south african channel/video, posturing about south Africans not accepting impartiality. Why don't you accept that a south african channel doesn't have to be impartial? Ergo - hypocrite
@@Tomk79rhby I’m not making that point at all! When did I say say a SA channel should be impartial?
Your argument is a bit like SA commentators complaining about the Irish media saying Ireland is the world’s best team when in fact nobody in the Irish media is saying this.
Sorry but I don’t think you understand what the word hypocrite means!
The best player for Ireland ever is Irish, he’s name is Brain
38-3,19-16 and 13-8. That's all you need to know. And here's another one for you, 31-12.
South Africa is not NZ or France. Do you know what we say in Ireland when we are about to play the Boks ? "Its only South Africa". When you are up against the mighty ABs or the flamboyant French you know that you are up against it, but SA ? Really ?
Its comical hearing the SA media branding the Irish media as being arrogant. Confidence is not arrogance. When you have stuffed the team that you are about to play so emphatically in your last 3 encounters you can't be anything but confident of doing it again. That's called common sense confidence. As for the baby Boks, do tell, how did they fare in the Semi finals against Ireland in last years World Cup Semi-final ?
If Ireland is arrogant then I think its fair to say that you guys are deluded. Like when you predicted a 30 point victory for the Stormers in last years URC final. That didn't work out too well for you now did it. We don't dislike South African Rugby but you sure do a good job of promoting the dislike.
. Ireland have 3 sports before rugby and a fraction of your population. Ireland deserves a lot more respect. Our history is literally David vs Goliath played out again and again .
We are tough. We beat the Vikings out of our country followed by the Brit’s. We will laugh and drink with you but
Don’t fuck with is bru! 🇮🇪🔥😎
Sorry but an error in your podcast. The Boks have only beaten the AB's 39 times, not 40. Will you broadcast a correction? Ho ho congrats on being no 1 and world champions, the Bokke 2023 finals performance was v impressive.
I am picking Boks by ten points this weekend.
🤣🤣🤣When Keo said take the Junior Boks to Ravensmead 6000 lunatics i could not stop laughing, as I'm from Ravensmead 🤣🤣
I can't wait for the South African fans to sing "In your heaaaad, in you heeeaaad....Rassie, Rassie, Rasssie" while playing Ireland at home, just to remind them that the song belong to us now.
EDIT: Someone in the comments just made me aware that Dolores has passed, I had no idea all this time. As someone who listens to The Cranberries a lot, her tragic death changed my tune regarding this song. Apologies to the Irish people, and to my fellow South Africans feel free to kick me in the nuts.
Munster song
I know SA has some of the worst crime rates in the world but ur country has gotten so bad its stealing songs, grim
I know crime rates are bad in SA, but stealing songs is just ridiculous
No Pal,it doesn't.
@@101MIGHTYJOE don't bring to world events 😂
1884 first irish rugby team 1891 first south african rugby team !! Do your research before you start insulting ireland!! Your podcast is a bit late this week !! I wonder why !!
Some fierce cheeky takes. Absolute neck of the two of you. Where is the arrogance in the Irish rugby team? No wonder Irish people have something against SAFFA commentators.
Its an irrelevant game, Ireland at their wekest for years and the players running on empty after a 13 month season, SA are hyping this game big time as they know everything is stacked in their favour. Wouldn't surprise me if at least 1 boks player is red carded, unless Ben O'Keefe is the ref as he'll probably not see any SA foul play.
Ireland aren't actually arrogant if that's your stance, largely hyped up by the media and rugby being a more well-to-do sport here. So there inevitably some arrogant fans. Kind of sad to use a clickbait title if you're really looking for more views. Being current nations champions does not equal dreamers. By the sounds of it, plenty of bell end punters and fans in SA if you think like that
No one cares my guy. Go sleep if you're offended. 😂
Don't stress it, rugby is all SA has. The country is so bad they don't even have access to full time electricity any more
@101MIGHTYJOE The power grid has been stable for the last 7 months if I'm not mistaken. So, we do have "full time" electricity.
@Blindside_Flanker 7 whole months, wow that is impressive lol. Does that mean u can now focus on ur 45% unemployment rate, horrendous economy or grim crime rates?
Aaahh but the Irish would love to win a RWC, do far that's just a dream
As a proud Irishman and also boks fan there really is no need for SA mind games 😅 boks are back to back world champs for a reason, they are the BEST! Ireland can still beat them of course as we have in the world cup itself but SA have that X factor that Ireland simply don't and the ability to win when it matters, again something Ireland seriously lacks! Gonna be a great test series that hopefully we can bring home. Good luck to both teams 😊
Good comment mate, but we have keo and zels too. Nothing beats them🇿🇦
Ireland would need their full side to be able to compete or win. They don't have the saffer strength in depth. Theres a big drop off from JGP, Keenan, Conan, Hansen...
Saffers by 12 this weekend
SA could win a cricket game and even win the Cricket World Cup, they just have to get the rules changed so they can smash into their opponents and stop them playing, clearly thats how they win rugby games especially against smaller countries who don't have a strong bench.
So glad to have you two back.
I'm Australian born, raised by South African dad and English mum in New Zealand.
I see the All Blacks as the worlds best team.
Boks beat them 2-1 last year but both of the wins required red cards to the All Blacks, which is something people tend to forget.
You can argue that's a discipline problem but I see it as more of a problem with how arbitrarily applied the rules are.
We don't see the best team winning, we see the team that survives the wrath of referee interpretation winning.
It's kind of always been like that though, with the All Blacks themselves benefiting from some favourable refereeing over the last 20 years.
Boks never got the proper chance to silence all doubters though as their opposition was maimed to play a man down for 65 minutes of the world cup final...and even with 14 guys they seemed like a better team than South Africa.
in order i'd go with All Blacks, Ireland, Springboks, France, England, Scotland, Argentina, Wales, Wallabies, Fiji
Still blaming the ref...... 😂
@@gregcampbell86 I think most people would agree that the state of refereeing is highly inconsistent at this point.
And the elephant in the room is that the Springboks have won 3 world cup finals without scoring a try.
Scoring system needs to be reformed, possibly synchronised with Rugby Leagues.
@Waywind420 I think the problem is more with the rules themselves than the refereeing. Everyone plays with the same rules, and both teams have the same ref.
The sad truth is that NZ was...... by far the most ill disciplined team in the world cup. They haven't learned how to safely tackle and the cards are deserved.
Im not sure what the comment about trys in a final is trying to prove. Clearly...... trys aren't a requirement of winning a WC final. That might annoy you, but try or no try the trophy is still in South Africa's Cabinet....... for a 4th time.
Blaming the ref honestly is the weakest excuse and only serves to prove that you're ore losers.
Studying how the ref does his job is part of the game.
Maybe spend more time learning to tackle safely, than crying about the ref.
@Waywind420 and if you want rugby league go watch rugby league. The sport already exists. No need to change union into a sport which is already there.
@@gregcampbell86 I don't go for the All Blacks, it's a shame I even have to defend them.
They don't need to ''learn how to tackle better'' they simply did what every other team does and got punished for it.
I watched the french vs nz under 20s game yesterday and both sides were high tackling and shoulder charging each other in full view of the referee and he repeatedly ignored it half the time...he arbitrarily decides to apply the laws when it suits him.
Keep an eye on the referee throughout any game and you'll see them put the whistle in their mouth to blow a penalty, only to not blow the whistle and carry the game on.
They're indecisive and cherry picking the rules.
If same Canes high tackle was a red card then so is Kolisi's , but that didn't happen.
Saying '' go watch league'' to anyone who thinks the game is in a poor state is reductive and nonsensical.
I want to watch union but i want union to be better than it currently is.
It's devolved as a sport.
RICKY is back🤣🤣🤣🤣 this means its a guaranteed win for the Boks
Brilliant podcast. Keo’s knowledge is encyclopedic. Keep up the good work lads.
Nothing beats a World Cup. If winning a series makes Irish fans sleep better be my guest.
Good show again lads. Ja, Ireland might be missing G.Park. but they forget that they played us in the world cup without Marx.
It's a different story with that specimen in the mix.
They still fckd us up
Penthouse to bog house in in Rugger in a week! Classic but true. One week you are the pigeon....the next week the statue..😆
Ja it will be lekker if we can win by 1. Better if we could win by 12. But I'd much rather just win by 20 hey
Would love Ireland to win both tests … South Africans are over arrogant since RWC
@@ho6277 So true. They are so easily to dislike. Perhaps its all that Dutch blood running through their veins.
I'd argue Irelands best player is Irish. Beirne is world class. I'd have him in a world 23.
Zels is right about u20's. Love watching it. It's faster somehow with less refereeing stops.
Love these two jokers there up for the craic mark a piss taker lol id lovey us to beat ye sat but cant see it for one boks players wouldent get out of ground alive if they Lost😂
Do ye realise lreland is a country of 6 millon people rugby is our 3 sport behind gaa.
And soccer so small little lreland are not to bad at rugby
If C J Stander was Irelands best player, how come the only win on SA soil was when he got sent off and Ireland beat the boks with 14 men? I'm sure there are lots of excuses as per usual.
Thanks - great show. What is on the other side of your window? Is it security? Looks weird?
LOL, Ricky from Mexico but the "Pesos" dropping down the screen were Philippine Pesos.
brilliant to get decent rugby commentary
I agree that it would be fantastic to have this weekly. Great insight and banter as always.
Your title bit racist don't you think
Racist? Are you doff or stupid?
eh?
the most obnoxious podcast. SA rugby is so boring to watch anyway.
Guys...we gonna have to start talking about this Libbok situation. The man is a liability because of his kicking. Siya Magic is money when he kicks. Let's be real, when Libbok is about to kick, we have that feeling in our hearts and stomachs.
I think Libbok needs to be relegated before he costs us a World Cup.
I agree. He is way too inconsistent, and he lacks BMT.
SA employing Felix Jones and now Gerry flannery its good to see the Irish helping out the Boks….
Only way the Irish will ever see a gold medal.
@@UlrichHoltzhausenwas that crystal ball you have very expensive?
@@UlrichHoltzhausen you get a gold medal for winning the 6 nations and you get more money than winning a World Cup 🤣
All dreaming of becoming the most winning team in sports history.
Lol.. Mark has no clue how to pronounce the players names and surnames😂
Mate you got it wrong. We owe Ireland a twickenham statement score. None of this 1 point nonsense. This is the" see we held back in the pools " game. Dbn can be close but Loftus must be a proper snot klap
8 out of 12 losses, nearly as bad as your record against the Abs since neutral referees came in after 1976. Should be great games but you didn't hold back at the rwc, that's fantasy
@@joedennehy386haha you know in your deepest of deep nightmares this was indeed the case😅
Abso bloody lutely! 👌
Thank goodness that Welsh gnome is gone and Ricky is baaack!
This one’s going to be naughty
I doubt it. There's massive appetite for this game in SA it seems. But the narrative that Ireland think they're the best is very overblown and comes from outside of Ireland mostly and 1 bad media outlet over here. I hope we give you the game you want but tbh our team(s) just look......tired or something. Hopefully it's 2 great contests. Go well.
Best Show ❤❤
This isn't going to be that competitive, SA should win by 10pts + each match. I just want to see some new blood come through and good set piece. Great show boys, loving the baiting, well played gents
Guys, face it none of us can handle another one point win!
They are true Warriors! living in ireland - I would never hear the end of it if the World Back to Back Champions lose to a Island of 9 million.
5 million
Never met a nice one.
I would not read too much into the score against Fiji. They had so many issues with even getting into the country on time.
Looking forward to the test at Loftus, but can someone please have a word with the stadium DJ to not make it all about himself again. Please and thank you
McDonald's Rugby 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
A blind squirrel would pick the irish team...Rassie mind games my arse.
😂you got jokes,Ireland will be getting a reality check
beat the ABs once in Chicago xD
Pretty patronising title, have not listened yet. Ill try not to be offended.
You sounded offended, don't be🇿🇦
About Zels. When I worked in-house for the Stormers and the Bok offical magazines under Craig Ray, Zels would contribute occasionally and his articles were just so much better than mine, it was actually so embarrasing. I teach maths now.
Where can one find the clip of Swys and Vic?
left 11 points on the table thats an interesting take! is the suggestion that SA threw the group game in the WC? yikes!
Savage title LOL.
Good to see you back, boys. South Africa will have too much for Ireland; they are just missing too many players like Gibson-Park, Keenan, etc., and they don't have the squad depth of the Springboks. However, travelling down to Durbs to support Ireland and two quality teams playing each other so it should be a great series.