100% agree with the Andre statements. I am desperate for him to do well but he just does not seem hungry. For a giant like that he should be dominating the midfield.
Bokke played well considering many top players out. They lost their way after 20 minutes, but played strongly in the 2nd 40. Well played from New Zealand
I quote Zels about ABs 'lack of grunt upfront' - they have two new props at 6'5" each and the weight to fill the frames - the ABs are going to be very hard to beat this year.
The AB's definitely aren't lacking grunt, Zels as also called the AB's pack a "Powder Puff Pack" last year. Look at the RWC final, that last 20 mins. Anytime there was a scrum, the Springboks were pushed back and dominated. Look at the very last 2 scrums at the very end of the game, the Springbok scrum got demolished. That was with Ox on the field.
@@username-iq1nt If it was an early push, then the ref would have blown the whistle. The AB's timing was spot on, they just owned the SA scrum in those moments. Go back and look at it. Faf delayed putting in the ball the first scrum, because the SA scrum was under pressure. Ref blowed the whistle and it was reset. Second time, Faf put in the ball as quick as possible, because he knew if he didn't, the SA scrum would have conceded a penalty. Giving the AB's a last chance to kick for 3.
There are too many rolling mauls, if it does not work, change the plan and not playing wide at the try line. This is from an elderly Granny. SA Cape Town
It was a lot of new ones that will have to step up to have a Springbok stamp on them.I hope Rassie will put some of the old Boks back into the game for Ireland for I am not sure that this team is able to get on top of Ireland
We need a Manie type of flyhalf with slick hands to get the backline moving. Sascha hasn't shown that skill yet, or has he, not sure? Thats why Andre didn't "play" well and why the backline didn't spark. Sascha is a good kicker, and a guy with BMT, why not play him at 12, 13 or 15? A guy like Manie is worth 4 tries with his good passing game, real pity about his kicking though.
Sorry to say, but the two Hendrikse brothers are really not of international standard. At 10 we have Manie, Nohamba and Masuku to concentrate on and at 10 a plethora of players to choose from in Faf, Reinach, Nohamba (again), Vd Berg, Jantjies and (just perhaps) Williams. We really do NOT need another kicking "wonder" at 10, but a 10 and 9 that will continuously keep the defense wondering. I absolutely take my hat off to Pollard for his outstanding composure and kicking towards the end of RWC 2023, but we should not have found ourselves in that position. With a playmaker at 10 (given carte blanche) we should have beaten all of France, England and New Zealand by a few TRIES. Rassie realises that, hence the employment of Tony Brown.
Who are these “Glasgow Warriors”? Are they a South African team? I’m guessing they are considering their coach is a South African, their captain is a South African and their MotM was a South African.
@@jacquescoetzee47The Captain of the Warriors was born in South Africa but is a fully fledged Scotland international MoM was Matt Fagerson is a Scottish international along with his brother Zander. Zander Fagerson has played 3x80 minutes versus Stormers, Munster and the Bulls...
Fassi been unfairly treated had a great game taking every high ball, assisted in both tries coming into the line, give the guy a proper chance and put your provincialism aside
I agree with Scotty on our mis use of 'utility' players.... we have messed up so much talent in the past.... my confidence comes from seeing and understanding how great Damien Willemse has started thriving when his position is now fullback... in terms of Sacha.... keep him at 10.... let him grow in that position and he will be the best. He has BMT. A lot of youngsters need time to adjust but if you get players like Edwill VDM and Sacha making their debut with their confidence, that is solid gold. In my opinion
That Sharks - Auckland final all those years ago, was reffed by Wayne Ericsson. He screwed the Sharks from the first whistle. Bloody Aussie bastard. Even though I was young back then, I knew something stank.
Great to see you guys back. Watching from NZ, would love to see more from you guys. Completely agree with Scott Gibbs pov on our centres. Haven't replaced Ma'a Nonu and Conrad Smith. Dunno about our squad not "deserving" rwc23. Thought the ABs played excellently when it mattered. Just missed out
Keo suffering from some level of trauma when he sees Esterhuizen.... Please Keo, like Tappe Henning excused himself from blowing Bulls games, please excuse yourself from commenting on the Esterhuizen/DDA debate - you're biased, own it. Fyi: Love the show, was a great addition to the RWC, hope this becomes a fixture during the international season!
All I'm saying is we gonna be cooking come the next world cup 😁😁😁😁😁nevermind the ups and downs we will be ready with the new blood getting lots of experience in the meantime go bokkkkkkkkkkke❤❤❤
I'm afraid Dobbo is also committing the big coaching mistake these last couple of seasons, of making certain players "God's gift" to the team. I just want to state that I'm not bashing Manie here. I like the way he plays so much, that I don't even care that much about his kicking, though I will not deny it can be problematic at times. My problem is with Dobbo who seems to want to please everyone and end up making a lot of players unhappy, even though it wasn't his intention. If certain players don't want to compete for their position, then you can't say such a player is a team man. Most players feel forced to say they will play wherever the coach want them. The same with Galant. He is undoubtedly one of the most exited players to watch when in form, but he should compete with Willemse for the right of who deserve the most minutes on the park. Dobson should stop protecting Manie, Galant and Herschel against not having to compete for their positions. I mean, if you can rotate and sub a 2-time WC winning legend like Frans Malherbe, you can do it to anyone in the squad. It's so obviously, that Sacha deserves more time at 10 and that Damian should first be selected at 15 and shift to 12 or the other positions as the situation within the game dictates. The Stormers have the talent to become an even bigger force, but if Dobbo is not going to go back to being the rugby-guy I know he is and start managing his squad again instead of pleasing players, we as supporters can prepare ourselves to go back to the days of disappointments.
DDA is just better at rugby than physical freak Andre the Giant. If we play more attacking play, could we see Andre coming on as a sub to create massive line breaks when the opponents are dead tired?
Dont you think that DDA shone 'brighter' in the game because the man inside him had changed to a better player in Sascha? I think Andre would have been shown to be better with Sascha than playing outside of Jordan who looked rushed the whole time. Jordan really isn't the greatest 10, and in fact, Sanele is better there. I am ok with Jordan at 12 or 13 where his solid defense is more appreciated. Oh and BTW, the ABs in the WC final were the one team who definitely fronted the Bok front rows. They def have the ability to front SA physically and even in the scrum. That is why its always so close, its not just the great backlines.
We have this conversation every year for the past 7years. Kolisi will and should start at 6, PTSD 7, 8 is tricky because of retired Duane and suspended Wiese. My vote goes to Roos. Kwagga and Van Staden on the bench for Loftus.
This was really a good show. In a long time. Bringing the All Blacks and Blues in as well. My dream would be a 2-0 vs Ireland, tough but wins and then a win at the bastion of Springbok Rugby, Ellis Park and a good win, not with 1 point and a red card. Go Bokke!!
Excellent SA punditry, know now why the you tubers are so one sided. The Bulls 'didn't choke' with 2nd home game while Glasgow, 2 away games lots of travel, altitude, virtually no fans, yet they smashed the Bulls in the 2nd half, but not a choke, just beaten by a better team, when other teams lose a close game, for example Ireland, they 'choked' Got it now, thanks Mark
Guys I enjoy your podcast But you need to put your WP bias aside. You said Sacha was brilliant when he came on… he didn’t do anything special due to the limited time he had. And the way you condensend Fassi’s abilities and performance was disappointing
Guys you know what the people want, make this a weekly podcast, even when the boks aren't playing.
I concur😊
I never comment, and I agree 👍🏽
Yes! I’d tune in weekly 🎉
Please 🙏🏼
Facts
Great to have Gibbs perspective one of the greats
Man please make this a weekly podcast. So missed it!!...best rugby show
100% agree with the Andre statements. I am desperate for him to do well but he just does not seem hungry. For a giant like that he should be dominating the midfield.
My goodness Scott is so eloquent for a rugby player!
My Bru...proper man this!!!
Finally! Hope you guys make this a regular!
Chaps.... ya'll need to make this a regular podcast. Loving the insight, preview, review and specialist guest.
You guys are fantastic. Love listening to your commentary.
Bokke played well considering many top players out. They lost their way after 20 minutes, but played strongly in the 2nd 40. Well played from New Zealand
sacha Zulu was world class and Edwil wow...
Rassie was not going to reveal all their new moves yet
I enjoy your podcasts. Good for a good laugh. From Canada
Favourite part of this podcast are the thumbnails
YES This is the podcast!!!
I just love Zels laugh 😂😂😂
Thank Goodness that you are back.
I quote Zels about ABs 'lack of grunt upfront' - they have two new props at 6'5" each and the weight to fill the frames - the ABs are going to be very hard to beat this year.
Does not necessarily translate in strength. Let us see how they will deal with seasoned campaigners.
Props being tall is not a good thing. Wilco Louw 1.82 , 140KG and OX would take them all day long.
The AB's definitely aren't lacking grunt, Zels as also called the AB's pack a "Powder Puff Pack" last year. Look at the RWC final, that last 20 mins. Anytime there was a scrum, the Springboks were pushed back and dominated. Look at the very last 2 scrums at the very end of the game, the Springbok scrum got demolished. That was with Ox on the field.
@@subhuman119 NZ committed an early push in the last scrum
@@username-iq1nt If it was an early push, then the ref would have blown the whistle. The AB's timing was spot on, they just owned the SA scrum in those moments.
Go back and look at it. Faf delayed putting in the ball the first scrum, because the SA scrum was under pressure. Ref blowed the whistle and it was reset.
Second time, Faf put in the ball as quick as possible, because he knew if he didn't, the SA scrum would have conceded a penalty. Giving the AB's a last chance to kick for 3.
Welcome!🌿
Bring back Ricky. Muchas gracias.
Great stuff guys!!
great find for me
There are too many rolling mauls, if it does not work, change the plan and not playing wide at the try line. This is from an elderly Granny. SA Cape Town
I can't hit like fast enough 🤩
It was a lot of new ones that will have to step up to have a Springbok stamp on them.I hope Rassie will put some of the old Boks back into the game for Ireland for I am not sure that this team is able to get on top of Ireland
Bulls organisers-Playing sweet Caroline & Zombie at Loftus? What happend to playing Steve Bloubul or Ulie Boellie? We gave them a home ground!
Ricky needs to be back....
What do you think of a backline like this
9.grant william 10.sacha 11.kolbe 12.damiam willemse 13. Moodie 14.curtley arendse 15. Mannie libbok
Franco will be the next Scotland coach, watch, he will be their coach come world cup 2027
Will have to wait and see because the S Africans have been calling his name to return to SA for quite some time now.
Keohane is such a weird-looking dude.
Bafana Bafana Boks vs Paddy and the Imports. It'll mean a lot more to the latter, hopefully it lives up to the billing.
It's Steyn's mum that's from Glasgow, not his gran.
We need a Manie type of flyhalf with slick hands to get the backline moving. Sascha hasn't shown that skill yet, or has he, not sure? Thats why Andre didn't "play" well and why the backline didn't spark. Sascha is a good kicker, and a guy with BMT, why not play him at 12, 13 or 15? A guy like Manie is worth 4 tries with his good passing game, real pity about his kicking though.
Fassie will have to step up if he wants. To be in the BOK TEAM
And you think he hasn't people just hate fassi and always seem to find an excuse
Maybe they weren’t showing the Irish anything but feeling each other out
Sorry to say, but the two Hendrikse brothers are really not of international standard. At 10 we have Manie, Nohamba and Masuku to concentrate on and at 10 a plethora of players to choose from in Faf, Reinach, Nohamba (again), Vd Berg, Jantjies and (just perhaps) Williams. We really do NOT need another kicking "wonder" at 10, but a 10 and 9 that will continuously keep the defense wondering. I absolutely take my hat off to Pollard for his outstanding composure and kicking towards the end of RWC 2023, but we should not have found ourselves in that position. With a playmaker at 10 (given carte blanche) we should have beaten all of France, England and New Zealand by a few TRIES. Rassie realises that, hence the employment of Tony Brown.
Moenie vir Willie in die span in praat nie.
club rugby is like kissing your sister but test rugby kissing a hot beautiful blue eyed blond...
Still didn't manage to give any Scottish players any credit...
ABs didnt deserve it? Yet the Boks dropped more games in the cycle.. before you come at me im not saying SA didnt deserve it 😂😂
Not one word about the Bulls defeat to Glasgow Warriors😂😂😂😂
Who are these “Glasgow Warriors”? Are they a South African team? I’m guessing they are considering their coach is a South African, their captain is a South African and their MotM was a South African.
They did mention it
@@jacquescoetzee47 When did Matt Fagerson become South African?
@@jacquescoetzee47The Captain of the Warriors was born in South Africa but is a fully fledged Scotland international MoM was Matt Fagerson is a Scottish international along with his brother Zander.
Zander Fagerson has played 3x80 minutes versus Stormers, Munster and the Bulls...
Fassi looked like provincial player and is lightyears from a bok. Noobs generally looked terrible.
That’s not fair!
How? 13/13 aerial balls, he was involved in all but one of our line breaks. He was instrumental. Try watching the game with your bias. 👍
I thought Fassi was decent. Hendrickse was appalling
I bet you won't say Marx looked slow and was inaccurate, but quickest to have something about Fassi. And I love Marx!
sad troll
The All Blacks will be better than Foster. And with Foster we got within a point of a title.
Ian Foster would t be a sir
Please please please make this show weekly. Love the passion
HEY!! Keo and Zels are back!
Yabooi
Irish fan here. Great podcast. Love you boys
Scott is a perfect addition to the Team!
Straight up
I totally agree
Fassi been unfairly treated had a great game taking every high ball, assisted in both tries coming into the line, give the guy a proper chance and put your provincialism aside
Their considering his development, chill my man
I agree with Scotty on our mis use of 'utility' players.... we have messed up so much talent in the past.... my confidence comes from seeing and understanding how great Damien Willemse has started thriving when his position is now fullback... in terms of Sacha.... keep him at 10.... let him grow in that position and he will be the best. He has BMT. A lot of youngsters need time to adjust but if you get players like Edwill VDM and Sacha making their debut with their confidence, that is solid gold. In my opinion
100%
Well said!❤
Keo & Zels!!!!!❤
I enjoy how fluid and smooth this pod is. Good to see you back.
Thank you. Much respect from USA to you guys.
Respect returned ! 🫡
i hope Edwill gets a start vs Ireland... on form and has a scrumcap so its official
😊 I really hope so, his debut was brilliant. Work rate, Work rate, work rate
That Sharks - Auckland final all those years ago, was reffed by Wayne Ericsson. He screwed the Sharks from the first whistle. Bloody Aussie bastard. Even though I was young back then, I knew something stank.
Maybe your nose was too close to your arse
Where the F is Ricky?😂
Great to see you guys back. Watching from NZ, would love to see more from you guys. Completely agree with Scott Gibbs pov on our centres. Haven't replaced Ma'a Nonu and Conrad Smith. Dunno about our squad not "deserving" rwc23. Thought the ABs played excellently when it mattered. Just missed out
I like the objectivity of this show… no bias! Keep it up gents.
It's a great show, biased and one eyed as anything , which we love
Keo suffering from some level of trauma when he sees Esterhuizen....
Please Keo, like Tappe Henning excused himself from blowing Bulls games, please excuse yourself from commenting on the Esterhuizen/DDA debate - you're biased, own it.
Fyi: Love the show, was a great addition to the RWC, hope this becomes a fixture during the international season!
Yes more good stuff 👏👏👏
I would love to see Sacha on 10 regularly going forward. He should be picked ahead of Manie for both the Boks and the Stormers
Finally!! At Last! The best rugby podcast is back! 😎
Love the podcast!!!! Big Love from Irish Fan and bring on the 2 Tests. SA to win both but ya never know!
Welcome back gentlemen!
You brilliant okes gotta turn this into a PODCAST, Bokke and club rugby!
Nice to have you guys back!!Watching from the UK!💚❤️🇿🇦👊🏾🙌🙏🫡🍻
Yes the people have spoken!
I stopped following the Irish biased podcast. Please do m9re of this.🎉
You guys must stop disappearing on us the withdrawal symptoms are hectic!
Absolute treat to see the Legend schooling these wipper snappers ))
Jordan Hendricks’s had a shocker. Esterhuizen needs to run straight and hand off tacklers. Another SBW should be his target.
All I'm saying is we gonna be cooking come the next world cup 😁😁😁😁😁nevermind the ups and downs we will be ready with the new blood getting lots of experience in the meantime go bokkkkkkkkkkke❤❤❤
why does Zels look so red?
Weed
I'm glad you guys are back!!
The Bulls got beaten by a well coached team...Well done to Franco Smith and his coaching team.
It’s a shame that the Stormers play Sacha-FM at 12 and 15. Play him at 10 please Dobbo!
I'm afraid Dobbo is also committing the big coaching mistake these last couple of seasons, of making certain players "God's gift" to the team. I just want to state that I'm not bashing Manie here. I like the way he plays so much, that I don't even care that much about his kicking, though I will not deny it can be problematic at times. My problem is with Dobbo who seems to want to please everyone and end up making a lot of players unhappy, even though it wasn't his intention. If certain players don't want to compete for their position, then you can't say such a player is a team man. Most players feel forced to say they will play wherever the coach want them. The same with Galant. He is undoubtedly one of the most exited players to watch when in form, but he should compete with Willemse for the right of who deserve the most minutes on the park. Dobson should stop protecting Manie, Galant and Herschel against not having to compete for their positions. I mean, if you can rotate and sub a 2-time WC winning legend like Frans Malherbe, you can do it to anyone in the squad. It's so obviously, that Sacha deserves more time at 10 and that Damian should first be selected at 15 and shift to 12 or the other positions as the situation within the game dictates. The Stormers have the talent to become an even bigger force, but if Dobbo is not going to go back to being the rugby-guy I know he is and start managing his squad again instead of pleasing players, we as supporters can prepare ourselves to go back to the days of disappointments.
Yes please guys. We need your show every week!!!!!
Glad you guys are back!❤🎉 SA_Cape Town😊
Your podcast Is One that I look first for bok dering RWC2023
lekker.
Thanks enjoyed this alot!!!
Gibbs 's stories are Bonkers
Gibbs is such a class lad
Really missed this
DDA is just better at rugby than physical freak Andre the Giant. If we play more attacking play, could we see Andre coming on as a sub to create massive line breaks when the opponents are dead tired?
He needs to run straight more. Then maybe...
Dont you think that DDA shone 'brighter' in the game because the man inside him had changed to a better player in Sascha? I think Andre would have been shown to be better with Sascha than playing outside of Jordan who looked rushed the whole time. Jordan really isn't the greatest 10, and in fact, Sanele is better there. I am ok with Jordan at 12 or 13 where his solid defense is more appreciated.
Oh and BTW, the ABs in the WC final were the one team who definitely fronted the Bok front rows. They def have the ability to front SA physically and even in the scrum. That is why its always so close, its not just the great backlines.
Welcome back guys!! It's been a minute, missed you guys.
So nice to have your podcast back
Good to have you guys back!
My show is back 🕺🏾🎉😅
He should play 10, for sure. He has insane talent.
Can we please see, Wiese6, Roos7 and Pieter-steph8 starting as loosies?! Please.
We have this conversation every year for the past 7years. Kolisi will and should start at 6, PTSD 7, 8 is tricky because of retired Duane and suspended Wiese. My vote goes to Roos. Kwagga and Van Staden on the bench for Loftus.
Great episode gents, you covered plenty.👌
This was really a good show. In a long time. Bringing the All Blacks and Blues in as well. My dream would be a 2-0 vs Ireland, tough but wins and then a win at the bastion of Springbok Rugby, Ellis Park and a good win, not with 1 point and a red card. Go Bokke!!
Excellent SA punditry, know now why the you tubers are so one sided. The Bulls 'didn't choke' with 2nd home game while Glasgow, 2 away games lots of travel, altitude, virtually no fans, yet they smashed the Bulls in the 2nd half, but not a choke, just beaten by a better team, when other teams lose a close game, for example Ireland, they 'choked' Got it now, thanks Mark
Guys I enjoy your podcast
But you need to put your WP bias aside. You said Sacha was brilliant when he came on… he didn’t do anything special due to the limited time he had. And the way you condensend Fassi’s abilities and performance was disappointing
Good discussion - loved it.
Boks First game. Rust. Injuries. New caps. Great score considering
Sasha is of course the future Bok 10,but the three best kicks of the day came from Jordan.
You guys posting again is 'Why Bok fans are buzzing!!'
Suddenly I'm having a much better Monday
Welcome back gentlemen, enjoyed the chat