What's Wrong with my Corn?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 เม.ย. 2024
- We've got trouble in paradise. Last year was not the best one for growing corn in southern Michigan, and we ended up with mold, in this case something called vomitoxin. The grain cleaner comes out, and so does the Gehl forage wagon that you probably didn't know I have. The Oliver 1600 and the Super 44 both get to work, and Ophelia the purple 1850 gets a cold start. All sorts of stuff to watch in this one!
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There’s something satisfying about bringing something back to life that you used as a kid. Kind of justifies the fact that you’ve been saving it all these years. I know the feeling.
Next stop, putting it behind the chopper!
That’s a neat wagon. It reminds me of an old Grove brand wagon we had.
Thats a neat building the chopper box was resting in!
It was originally a hip roof barn, but that burned in the 1940s. When they rebuilt, they went with steel frame with aluminum siding. They reused the original stone foundation, but added on while they were at it. That's why the one side is a block wall foundation.
Neat! Thanks for the story behind it!!
Pretty cool bringing the old wagon back to life. I really enjoy such things. Listening to the 'quieting' as the oil gets into the chains is a satisfying feeling.
I think I need to chop some hay this summer, just to give it a rel load.
Years ago, I had a customer who failed to keep an eye on his stored wheat. The rats, mice, and weevils kept their eyes and mouths on it though. He ended running it through the cleaner at the local commercial seed cleaner’s facility. He fed all the junk to his cows. It was a very disgusting to see such laziness on his part.
A few years back an insurance adjuster had come iut to measure bins. He told me about another farm he went to, he had to go inside the bin to measure the pile of corn. It was in the evening and getting dark but he thought he could see green. He picked up some corn and it had sprouted. The guy had put it in over 20%, never put air to it or anything. He must have had a city job to pay the bills, because you can't do it farming that way.
Thank you for the explanation at the end, I was hoping you would tell us how everything turned out.
I just learned last week that Oliver made the 44 and 440 tractor. The look to be a neat little tractor and handy for there size . Have a good day
Good to see that the truck drivers have the patience for you to do the right thing and clean the grain. Here's to a better growing year in 2024.
The owner of that truck farms too, and his corn is worse than mine. So he understands.
Hello Chris,
Sad to see any grain not being able be used and the funds that come along with that loss. Life of a farmer.
I learned something new today. Well explained. Thank you, Boe
Sometimes you win sometimes you farm. 😂
Now if that ain't a true statement!!
@thatoliverguychris
What a great video! Very informative!
Thanks for the education....!!!!
Glad to see you chose to draw the line in favor of hanging onto the old iron.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
good explaination
Enjoyed this video bro but not the bit about the fungus causing problems. Safe travels. Ken.
Thanks Ken.
Liked the ride in the grain cleaner
Growing up on the farm we bought the same Gehl wagon used, and it needed a new conveyor belt. Turns out the conveyor belt from grocery store checkout conveyors was the same width. My dad got a bunch of them from a junkyard cheap; we laced two together and they worked perfectly!
I was looking at used conveyor belt and found this.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris We had one of these feeder wagons when I was a kid growing up. This conveyor belt was the wagons weak point on ours. The wiper along the sides didnt entirely prevent chopped forage from going under the belt. Material would get built up under the belt with consistent use and stretch the belt to the point of pulling the splice out. It would have to be checked constantly to prevent down time from a broken belt.
I learn something I didn’t know since I’m new to corn farming. Thanks Chris for sharing. Very much enjoyed watching!
Glad you enjoyed it
Thank you for explaining the toxin and i can't blame you for not spending 💰 it doesn't grow on trees just corn its always fun to see the assortment of olivers you have and use great vid as always Chris
Thanks Chris!
That pile is going Stink.... yummy, rotten corn! 😂😂
😂😂😂. I should do a regular update on the pile. Lol
Thank you for the good explanations of the mold. I enjoy the simplicity of the old gear and chain and ratchet mechanism. I wasn't sure if I was going to like the spin cycle or not but it was interesting to watch too.
It kinda made my head spin, but I thought it was neat.
Well you could have put that in your compost bin for your garden or burnt in your pellet stove . great video thanks
Thanks! I have put stuff like that in my compost pile before. Then the critters end up digging through it and making a mess, and it's closer to the barns. This stuff will rot here, and I can dig it back out with the backhoe when I want to use it.
"Vomitoxin" I hate that stuff. Love the trip through time with the machinery, Congers up so many memories. Thanks for the video, 👍👍
It was a problem a few years ago. That time I made money on it. One bin tested just high enough to get me some insurance payment, but by the time I emptied that one the ethanol plant had stopped testing.
In my state, corn contaminated with aflatoxin must be disposed of at a state regulated disposal site
It's crazy here. Some places reject, some will take it but dock very heavily, and rumor is there are a few places not even testing.
That was a fun video. It sucks about the mold. I guess that's part of farming. That old wagon came in handy. Hope you have better luck this year. See you later. PS thank you for explaining about the mold. I learned a new.
I'm glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching.
That's always my biggest fear every fall, the terminals check your first 3 or 4 loads, if they don't find any then you normally don't get checked again. But sitting there waiting on the results of that first load of new corn is like waiting on a IRS auditor.
Somewhat fortunately I didn't contract any of this corn. There a lot of guys around here having trouble filling their contracts. My other 2 bins tested lower and shouldn't be as much of an issue. Hopefully.
I've had young rabbits and chickens too with legs chewed off and more through their cage, trash and stored grain impacted by raccoons, which I had to eliminate the pests. Anyways, it's good to see you get the old Gehl forage wagon going. You may have answered this question, but is the mold what old timers use to call Smut? From what you said, it sounds like the right decision to clean the corn. Got all the oldies going, they sound good. Enjoyed seeing the old Gehl going, thanks Chris, I hope you have a great week.
It's not the same as smut. Smut as I am aware of it is edible. It's the gray fungus that grows usually out of the ear and can get up around the size of a baseball. Some even consider it a delicacy.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris Good to know, thanks!
We have the same grain cleaner
Chris, do you have a video on the history of your farm? I know you bale hay but you don’t ever show feeding it or anything. Obviously with the Gehl silage wagon, you used it in the past, how? Just interested in the history of your farm. Hopefully, this isn’t too personal. Have a great day!
I have discussed farm history here and there in the videos, but there's not a single video that tells the story. When I was young we finished beef cattle and hogs. Around 1981 we got out of beef and concentrated on the hogs. By 1988 dad had taken over the family farm equipment dealership and it was getting tough to do everything, so we got out of hogs and went with grain farming along with the dealership. Before my time they raised and sold Shetland ponies. The farm has now been in the family for 110 years.
Them are tools to have around for these case's. Thats how we avoided a lots of rejection loads in the past cause of toxins. But we bound ours for bean's in 1995 cause of heavy weed seeds
We had a field of beans years ago that ragweed got bad in and used the cleaner for that.
Reminds me of a farmer...
When he seeded in the spring. The grain from the combine would go in the seed drill. So you know what he wa seeding. 😅😅
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About the Same sort of condition happened in the Early 70s was called AlfaToxin.......
I've heard about that. That one was hard on the cows if I remember right
Some places would bag up those screenings and charge $15 for a 40-50# bag!
I might do some next year and sell it when things aren't too toxin.
You could use some fancy wording like Cleaned Corn Screenings or Tested for Vomitoxin at Less than 1000PPK on the bag. The urban wildlife wouldn’t notice anything out of the ordinary!
We had that a few years back. Really slows down the line at elevator with the 20 minute test for each load. Had some rejected went down the road 5 miles to another elevator went through no dock. Very susceptible test. Like you said 1 kernel in their test rejects a whole load.
Chris, good thing you kept the grain cleaner nice to see you use the different tractors. Thanks Michael
Thanks 👍
Great explanation of how vomitoxin gets into the corn.
Years before RR canola we ran it through a screen cleaner like that to remove volunteer Whtor Bly out of it. Slow but it paid to do it..
I'm betting you had different screens. 😂
@@ThatOliverGuyChris just big enough for the canola to fall through and the grains came out the end. Pretty much the opposite of what you were doing
Nice video Chris
Thanks!
Also that super 44 is the best and the spinning the spinning 😅😅
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I bet the vomitoxin contaminates the distillers grain, and that all goes for protein supplement for many classes of livestock. I feed it to my beef cattle so I know a bit about inconsistencies in the end product. It sucks when they over dry it and you get fluff.
Great video Chris 👍
Thanks! Yes, they say the vom level triples by the time it's distillers grain.
I could have done without those Charlie Sheen movie scenes Yechhh!!!! Glade to see you putting the extra effort to keep the food supply safe.
I remember we used to bank corn at the co-op for the dairy cow grain ration and one year the corn was full of mycotoxins, All the corn I brought in tested 0 but got the crap back🤦♂️. Cows would crap blood so they put binder in the feed wich I think binded some of the nutrients as well. For what they charged storage and grinding, mixing charge, hauling both ways to get crappy corn back dad could of paid for several bins over the years🤣 I just grind it in a bunk now.
Having your own storage is a good idea. There have been several years where the hit a guy at harvest, but a couple months later they don't even bother testing. Wheat is a prime example.
I had a lot of trouble getting it to dry enough to put in my cribs. For a while I was picking high moisture ear corn and grinding half batches which ment grinding a couple times a week. If we would have had colder weather it would not have been a big deal. Some of the last of my wetter corn was starting to get moldy but I used it up. The steers haven't missed a beat as far as how much they have been eating. Hope crib i just started doesn't have any problems with mold. It was a little drier.
Yep. Wet and cloudy, but not cold enough to stop mold growth. I hear there is an additive that can be added to feed to counteract the toxins.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris Yes there is. It ties the toxins up.
I understand why many farmers don't use a grain cleaner but, honestly, they (we), should be. Same with having a grain vac on hand as well. I saw we as I used to raise beef cattle with hay crop. Did a hay crop rotation, would harvest the seeds and sell or save for new seeding.
Chris, you can always burn it in a wood burning stove but to just dump it out and away from everything (a good fence row), it will just rot away from what the animals won't eat and yes they know what's good and not good for them.
Hmmmm Super 44 starter overhaul coming soon?
That starter could probably use it. It has new 2/0 cables so that's not the problem. The battery isn't the best either, as you'll see in a future video.
Thought maybe you were starting up Loosey cattle company to feed with Mike Kalsem and put the chopper to use
😂😂😂 I do like steak.
The potential for personal injury is astronomical.
That was a really good video! Good explanation good footage, good tractors. Sucks about your corn though and having to go through that but I do appreciate you crawling into the green cleaner to hold the camera as it went around for a couple of revolutions. Hopefully you don't get vertigo after that.😂
You won't see Ross doing that! 😂😂
Well, some guys just won't put in the effort you know
@@Adam_Poirier 😂😂😂
Crows will eat it, blue jays also. Great vid
Thanks!
Great video, we have to do the same thing here in the south except that we get alpha toxin in our corn most of the time and doing exactly what you are doing will get the grain good enough for the elevators to accept it. Looking at the older buildings you have there, did your family have a dairy at some point in the past or were those buildings there when you bought the farm? Not trying to be nosey, I was just curious.
We had beef cattle when I was young, no dairy that I know of.
Obviously need to diversify by adding some cattle & an 840 harvester 😉
I've got the 830....
@@ThatOliverGuyChris just need the cattle now, in knee deep Oliver green clover...always thought a 1750 paired with 830 was a great combo for forage 👍👍
That's what they needed to run the corn through that I was hauling a few years back that was getting rejected but the pile of cleanings would have been at least 10x bigger. It was some nasty bug eaten imported "organic" dirty stuff. I wonder if roasting the corn would take care of the mold? The mills I see testing corn grind up about a cup of corn and then take a small sample from that to do the test but it still can vary and sometimes you can twist there arm to try pulling a 2nd sample and get the load through
Almost every load that was rejected went through again for retesting. They always came back higher than the first time.
@ThatOliverGuyChris that stinks, especially with the cheap corn prices.
@@jamieebersole6755 you'd think a couple of them would have come back lower.
@ThatOliverGuyChris sometimes you win and sometimes you loose. My experience with hauling corn is usually loosing and sadness. That's probably why Ross hauls his own corn 🤣🤣🤣
I would not have thought the ethanol folks would be that fussy.
Any chance to knock me a penny. They have to market the final product as well, so I get it. But it can be frustrating.
The better the corn,the better for making ethanol
On the oliver 1650 pto clutch do you add oil if so what type and amount
No oil needed. It is lubricated by transmission oil from the lube pump and it drains back into the rear emd.
Shed kept, ran when parked.
Golf clap?
Golf clap.
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Didn't see that PTO lever on 44
I was going to grab at it lunchtime and forgot. A screwdriver had to do.
Chris I’m sure you will but I will say it anyway to remember to use a high level mask if you clean the bins out after.
I had an N95 when we got inside. Regular dust is bad enough, I don't need the mold too
Here comes a load he he. I see what you did there. 😂
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Agco bought Gehl
When did that happen?
The ducks and geese will eat it
Maybe it will keep them from eating my crops
could you burn them fines in a corn stove??
From what I understand of corn stoves , the corn has to be very clean to get good airflow between the kernels. The fines just make it smolder. A guy could probably shake some on top of the wood in an outdoor burner and use it up. If you had a way to pelletize it, that would work great.
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That was an excellent explanation of vomitoxin. You must’ve went to Purdue or have some high-level degree in agriculture?
I've got more self respect than that! 😛 I read it on the Internet.
Would you ever be opposed to raising a small number of cows?
I don't think I'd do it. We had cattle when I was young and it seems like there was more than once we got up in the middle of the night because they had gotten out.
Rossquach droppings?????
LoL 😂😂. I can just see him, perched and squatted over the edge of a forage box, trying to kill a raccoon so he has something to wipe with.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris TG I have solar eclipse glasses for tomorrow because to see Rossquach perched over the sides of your forage box would require those filters.
@@bigun447 😂😂😂
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