Great video Makai, You are very knowledgeable. I'm picking up my Raider GE68HX 16" Monday, going to use it for Microsoft Flight Simulator,either 2020 or 2024 flight SIM. Thank you for that video Oh! Wife freaked out when she saw the price from BB! Going to add the M.2 the 990 pro 4TB ssd. I'm I foolish doing that, my friend thinks so, being it came with 2TB, I don't like putting my games in the main drive?
In summary, the differences between the Titan ( th-cam.com/video/77qHW85cOus/w-d-xo.html ) and the Raider appear to be: 1. The Titan has blue accents and this has red. 2. The Titan has a seamless glass touchpad and wrist rest while this has a traditional click pad. Plus this has a fingerprint reader. 3. The Titan has one more M.2 slot. 4. The Titan has a vapor chamber, this has at least 6 heat pipes.
Actually it looks like that the Titan also has the plug for the Fingerprint: Titan slot: th-cam.com/video/77qHW85cOus/w-d-xo.htmlsi=mcARdojqBqDFDCsr&t=1220 Raider slot: th-cam.com/video/VunfV4NI0BM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=4jTGdWch2aZ4KCIa&t=736 The very left of the motherboard, next to the speaker.
@@MakaiTechReviews I'm thinking the Normal finish on the Raider will last longer than the Glass finish of the Seamless Titan touchpad...would be nice to know for sure if the titan had the fingerprint reader indeed, the Glass finish has me wondering if the radiwr would be a better but for durability. I hav an MSI 1decade now, still standing.
I saw somewhere that this is the left one (looking at the open laptop, laying up and down as this video shows). Bot I will confirm this soon - have a plan to add second M.2 so we will see which port is currently occupied.
@@LowSkillGamerYT Hi it barely fits. You can close the lid but I am not entirely sure if it's hitting the top of the heatsink or not. I just decided to return it and get the one without the heatsink. I also bought separate thin heatsink from Amazon.
I may have commented on your Titan 18 HX disassemble, and same applies here. I am worried about space to put 3rd party heatsinks on SSD. Gen 4 SSDs can run hot, but Gen 5 SSD run so hot I'm super skeptical about putting Gen 5 in a Titan or Raider 18 HX without having to cut case bottom to put full sized heat sink, and then have laptop sit angled on top of laptop cooler like Llano cooler. Is there even space for a Gen4 SSD that comes with heatsink installed like Seagate Firecuda 530? Thank you if you can answer these questions. If not, I'm sure someone will eventually have answer before I decide which one I want and start cutting holes in bottom to allow big heatsinks on SSDs. :)
@@zechssiguro7476 - that would be wonderful, and even more especially for SSDs that are 4GB because I think the bigger SSDs run a little bit hotter, and what even is the point of buying system that's suppose to be biggest and fastest laptop like this or Titan unless biggest and fastest 4GB SSDs (or bigger if they ever happen) are used?
Does the third M.2 port miss a connector only or some more components? Looks like all stuff around are in place except M.2 connector, but I might be wrong.
I didn't buy the raider 18hx in Europe, but I went to Asia and bought one with an English keyboard. The price was more than 3,800 euros. Mine is the RTX4090+2TB version. Unless you pursue the ultimate touch feel, I don’t think there is any need to buy Titan 18hx. Originally I planned to buy the raider GE78hx but it only has a 2k screen and the GE68HX is only 16 inches. I happened to see the newly released raider 18HX. Been using it for a month and it’s great!😁😁
@@ElvYannix Just go and get one! It's awesome machine my old vector gp66 looks like a toy compare to this one. Mine is 32gb 4080 paid £3200 for it. Games on Miniled 4k looks very different as picture quality is almost oled. Bf2042 2560x1600 max settings 125fps @ 4k with dlss on quality 115fps. This feels premium laptop in every way
Yo Makaitech! Good Evening to you it is evening in my place as of this time of writing! I noticed that the inside of this laptop is spacious. Will this fit an 8 to 12mm M.2 Heatsink? I plan to buy this thick heatsink tomorrow. I have the laptop now!
Hello, I'm also curious whether an SSD with a heatsink will fit. Could you tell me if you managed to do it and which SSD you bought? I also want to install an SSD with a heatsink, since there's no proper cooling here at all.
@@LowSkillGamerYT For thin laptop just buy a 0.5 up to 1mm heatsink. Remember to buy several 0.5 and 1mm thermal pads. For thicker laptops you can fit 8mm up to 10mm heatsinks! If the bottom of the laptop is not completely flat like there is a part that will have a bulge than it means that you can install a thicker heatsink! I have 2 4TBs Lexar NM790 Single Sided M.2. I bought several 0.5 and 1mm thermal pads but I did not install an 8mm Pure Copper Graphene Heatsink! I installed 6mm! Under the M.2 the side with no chips, I installed a 1mm Graphene Heatsink sticking it with 0.5 thermal pads to avoid making it thicker. I cut the thermal pads into small pieces so three pieces above and 3 pieces under. Separating the pads is better for heat absorbtion rather than putting 1 whole thermal pad that people normally do. First, you measure the size of the chips then you cut the pads according to the size of the microchips and the number of chips. In my case 3 chips above sticking the 6mm Pure Copper Graphene Heatsink and also under 3 0.5mm thermal pads cut into three pieces same size as the chips above and sticking a 1mm graphene heatsink! 1 more tip! Get a rule 6 or 12". Put it at level above the M.2 the part with chips. You will notice that the thickness or height of the chips are not all the same. 1 will only be 0.5mm and the others are 1mm. This is the reason why you should not stick 1 whole thermal pad. You must cut the pads into pieces so count the number of chips. Get a ruler and stick it on your M.2 to see which chip is thicker or thinner! The main reason to this is a part of the pad will not stick the the chip so what does it mean? NO HEAT ABSORBTION WILL HAPPEN so the heat of that chip that did not stick with the pad is gonna heat throttle the temperature! Your Heatsink and thermal pad is like useless! For the taller chips just stick 0.5mm pads and for the shorter chip stick a 1mm pad so when you stick the heatsink everything will stick evenly no small gaps! As for the underside just get a 0.5mm pads cut it into the same number of pieces like what you did above then stick your 1mm heatsink. Be aware of the position of the chips above because you will stick the 0.5mm pads below same position as the chips above so always measure! QUESTION BUB, ARE YOU BUYING THE SAME BRAND AND MODEL OF 18" GAMING LAPTOP? THE COOLING DOES NOT END HERE! After sticking the Heatsink above and below, on top of the heatsinks I sticked a Dual-Layer Graphene & Copper-Foil Design cooler on both heatsinks. I have a Kingston Fury Impact DDR5-5600 4 pieces 192GB Kit installed. I put a Graphene Copper Foil on all of my 4 Memories! It does not stop here! I bought a Graphene Heat Dissipation Film and put sticked it to some parts of the heatsink of the GPU and CPU! I cut it into thinner shape because the heatsink is narrower than the M.2.
Hey Makaitech! I am going to buy this 18.4" gaming laptop THIS WEEK! I want to know because MSI did not put this important information in their web when you look at the specifications of this gaming laptop. Will this accept a SODIMM DDR5 5600 MHz memory? I am already eyeing a 2 Kits of 2 x 48 DDR5 5600MHz G.Skill Rip Jaws or Corsair Vengeance Memory. 2nd question is if there is no Wifi Card/WiFi Module faster than the Intel Killer, do you mean that this is the best and fastest Wifi Module to date?
Hi there. Long story short, YES it can handle 5600 MT/s (2x2800 Mhz) SODIMMs. As of the Wifi, it has a Wifi 7 module in it. Currently even very few routers support this standard, as this module is pretty new this is why no other alternatives I could list out in the video. The next possible big leap will be Wifi 8 (~2028 so we are far away from there)
@@MakaiTechReviews HEY SIR I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION? Is the M.2 slot space spacious? Do you suppose that I can fit an 8MM M.2 Heatsink on my 2 M.2 NVMEs?
You have 2 options: Either use raid setup (combines the 2 ssd into one, for speed. But i wouldnt recommend it), or setup as 2 different storage space. This can be setup in your BIOS. Then create a bootable USB flashdrive with a windows installer (this can be download from microsoft). Boot from your usb flashdrive and finish your new OS installation.
@@Outoftimet.t go to advanced bios disable raid or it won't detect your nvme unless you get the raid drivers and boot B4 the install which is annoying as heck
@MakaiTechReviews so its f11 to get to bios right? Let say that i want to do 1 drive with window 11 pro first, then the 2nd drive with Ubuntu, is this possible?
For anyone looking to buy this laptop, here's my 2 cents! Absolutely GET IT! the 4x ddr5 slots are amazing as far as a x2 to x4 slots, it's extremely quiet, quite a bit of a penny. My only issue is the steel series keyboard drivers sometimes update and you need to manually reinstall driver through device manager. Other than that this beast of a machine is amazing! super fast, super clean, charge ports for usb are amazing and other than that I would recommend getting more ddr as this thing can consume a lot of ram when it comes to multi tasking. Never had any issues and already filled 4tb or the 8total terabytes i've had. this machine is a upgrade from the gf65thin and i gotta say.. im fucking impressed that they were able to pack a punch and fit so much into this thing. Im not sure about thermals or paste they are using for the ram for the gpu and the cpu but the chips are different paste from the other.. tired while I was writing this but nonetheless this is a must get
Thanks awesome video! I fear tinkering and taking things apart but a new ssd is a must!
Dont be afraid. It is really not that hard.
@@MakaiTechReviews yep new ram and SSD hooked up 👍
Great video Makai, You are very knowledgeable.
I'm picking up my Raider GE68HX 16" Monday, going to use it for Microsoft Flight Simulator,either 2020 or 2024 flight SIM.
Thank you for that video
Oh! Wife freaked out when she saw the price from BB!
Going to add the M.2 the 990 pro 4TB ssd.
I'm I foolish doing that, my friend thinks so, being it came with 2TB, I don't like putting my games in the main drive?
You helped knowing the difference great work
In summary, the differences between the Titan ( th-cam.com/video/77qHW85cOus/w-d-xo.html ) and the Raider appear to be:
1. The Titan has blue accents and this has red.
2. The Titan has a seamless glass touchpad and wrist rest while this has a traditional click pad. Plus this has a fingerprint reader.
3. The Titan has one more M.2 slot.
4. The Titan has a vapor chamber, this has at least 6 heat pipes.
Actually it looks like that the Titan also has the plug for the Fingerprint:
Titan slot: th-cam.com/video/77qHW85cOus/w-d-xo.htmlsi=mcARdojqBqDFDCsr&t=1220
Raider slot: th-cam.com/video/VunfV4NI0BM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=4jTGdWch2aZ4KCIa&t=736
The very left of the motherboard, next to the speaker.
@@MakaiTechReviews the slot for it but not on the machine 😞. (I agree that it's effectively the same mobo and chassis)
@@MakaiTechReviews I'm thinking the Normal finish on the Raider will last longer than the Glass finish of the Seamless Titan touchpad...would be nice to know for sure if the titan had the fingerprint reader indeed, the Glass finish has me wondering if the radiwr would be a better but for durability. I hav an MSI 1decade now, still standing.
Well the motherboard has the fingerprint port, but obviously the reader itself is missing from the chassis.
@@zechssiguro7476 the Titan is glass. I'm pretty rough on hardware and mine is still flawless. Attracts fingerprints like crazy though 😅
Which one is the PCIe 5 slot?
I saw somewhere that this is the left one (looking at the open laptop, laying up and down as this video shows). Bot I will confirm this soon - have a plan to add second M.2 so we will see which port is currently occupied.
Which SSD slot is gen 5 the left for right one?
Will the Samsung 990 pro with heatsink fit in this laptop? TIA.
I'm also thinking about installing this SSD into this laptop. If you've tried, could you tell me if it worked for you, did it fit?
@@LowSkillGamerYT Hi it barely fits. You can close the lid but I am not entirely sure if it's hitting the top of the heatsink or not. I just decided to return it and get the one without the heatsink. I also bought separate thin heatsink from Amazon.
I may have commented on your Titan 18 HX disassemble, and same applies here. I am worried about space to put 3rd party heatsinks on SSD. Gen 4 SSDs can run hot, but Gen 5 SSD run so hot I'm super skeptical about putting Gen 5 in a Titan or Raider 18 HX without having to cut case bottom to put full sized heat sink, and then have laptop sit angled on top of laptop cooler like Llano cooler.
Is there even space for a Gen4 SSD that comes with heatsink installed like Seagate Firecuda 530?
Thank you if you can answer these questions. If not, I'm sure someone will eventually have answer before I decide which one I want and start cutting holes in bottom to allow big heatsinks on SSDs. :)
Tks for the concept of the Seagate Firecuda 530... I'll be looking into the coolest running Gen4&Gen5 SSD brands & products.
@@zechssiguro7476 - that would be wonderful, and even more especially for SSDs that are 4GB because I think the bigger SSDs run a little bit hotter, and what even is the point of buying system that's suppose to be biggest and fastest laptop like this or Titan unless biggest and fastest 4GB SSDs (or bigger if they ever happen) are used?
Does the third M.2 port miss a connector only or some more components? Looks like all stuff around are in place except M.2 connector, but I might be wrong.
Hi! Thank You sharing with us. what about the display? Are they also the same in titan and raider?
I didn't buy the raider 18hx in Europe, but I went to Asia and bought one with an English keyboard. The price was more than 3,800 euros. Mine is the RTX4090+2TB version. Unless you pursue the ultimate touch feel, I don’t think there is any need to buy Titan 18hx. Originally I planned to buy the raider GE78hx but it only has a 2k screen and the GE68HX is only 16 inches. I happened to see the newly released raider 18HX. Been using it for a month and it’s great!😁😁
Hi! I am planning to get the 18HX also... Just want to know how is it now?
Planning to take an upgraded one to 64GB RAM and 4TB SSD.
@@ElvYannix Just go and get one! It's awesome machine my old vector gp66 looks like a toy compare to this one. Mine is 32gb 4080 paid £3200 for it. Games on Miniled 4k looks very different as picture quality is almost oled. Bf2042 2560x1600 max settings 125fps @ 4k with dlss on quality 115fps. This feels premium laptop in every way
okay now, how do you put everything back?
is the housing entirely made of plastic? any metal part??
Yo Makaitech! Good Evening to you it is evening in my place as of this time of writing! I noticed that the inside of this laptop is spacious. Will this fit an 8 to 12mm M.2 Heatsink? I plan to buy this thick heatsink tomorrow. I have the laptop now!
Hello, I'm also curious whether an SSD with a heatsink will fit. Could you tell me if you managed to do it and which SSD you bought?
I also want to install an SSD with a heatsink, since there's no proper cooling here at all.
@@LowSkillGamerYT
For thin laptop just buy a 0.5 up to 1mm heatsink. Remember to buy several 0.5 and 1mm thermal pads. For thicker laptops you can fit 8mm up to 10mm heatsinks! If the bottom of the laptop is not completely flat like there is a part that will have a bulge than it means that you can install a thicker heatsink! I have 2 4TBs Lexar NM790 Single Sided M.2. I bought several 0.5 and 1mm thermal pads but I did not install an 8mm Pure Copper Graphene Heatsink! I installed 6mm! Under the M.2 the side with no chips, I installed a 1mm Graphene Heatsink sticking it with 0.5 thermal pads to avoid making it thicker. I cut the thermal pads into small pieces so three pieces above and 3 pieces under. Separating the pads is better for heat absorbtion rather than putting 1 whole thermal pad that people normally do. First, you measure the size of the chips then you cut the pads according to the size of the microchips and the number of chips. In my case 3 chips above sticking the 6mm Pure Copper Graphene Heatsink and also under 3 0.5mm thermal pads cut into three pieces same size as the chips above and sticking a 1mm graphene heatsink! 1 more tip! Get a rule 6 or 12". Put it at level above the M.2 the part with chips. You will notice that the thickness or height of the chips are not all the same. 1 will only be 0.5mm and the others are 1mm. This is the reason why you should not stick 1 whole thermal pad. You must cut the pads into pieces so count the number of chips. Get a ruler and stick it on your M.2 to see which chip is thicker or thinner! The main reason to this is a part of the pad will not stick the the chip so what does it mean? NO HEAT ABSORBTION WILL HAPPEN so the heat of that chip that did not stick with the pad is gonna heat throttle the temperature! Your Heatsink and thermal pad is like useless! For the taller chips just stick 0.5mm pads and for the shorter chip stick a 1mm pad so when you stick the heatsink everything will stick evenly no small gaps! As for the underside just get a 0.5mm pads cut it into the same number of pieces like what you did above then stick your 1mm heatsink. Be aware of the position of the chips above because you will stick the 0.5mm pads below same position as the chips above so always measure! QUESTION BUB, ARE YOU BUYING THE SAME BRAND AND MODEL OF 18" GAMING LAPTOP? THE COOLING DOES NOT END HERE! After sticking the Heatsink above and below, on top of the heatsinks I sticked a Dual-Layer Graphene & Copper-Foil Design cooler on both heatsinks. I have a Kingston Fury Impact DDR5-5600 4 pieces 192GB Kit installed. I put a Graphene Copper Foil on all of my 4 Memories! It does not stop here! I bought a Graphene Heat Dissipation Film and put sticked it to some parts of the heatsink of the GPU and CPU! I cut it into thinner shape because the heatsink is narrower than the M.2.
@@LowSkillGamerYT
Did you receive my message?
Hey Makaitech! I am going to buy this 18.4" gaming laptop THIS WEEK! I want to know because MSI did not put this important information in their web when you look at the specifications of this gaming laptop. Will this accept a SODIMM DDR5 5600 MHz memory? I am already eyeing a 2 Kits of 2 x 48 DDR5 5600MHz G.Skill Rip Jaws or Corsair Vengeance Memory. 2nd question is if there is no Wifi Card/WiFi Module faster than the Intel Killer, do you mean that this is the best and fastest Wifi Module to date?
Hi there. Long story short, YES it can handle 5600 MT/s (2x2800 Mhz) SODIMMs. As of the Wifi, it has a Wifi 7 module in it. Currently even very few routers support this standard, as this module is pretty new this is why no other alternatives I could list out in the video. The next possible big leap will be Wifi 8 (~2028 so we are far away from there)
@@MakaiTechReviews
HEY SIR I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION? Is the M.2 slot space spacious? Do you suppose that I can fit an 8MM M.2 Heatsink on my 2 M.2 NVMEs?
What do i do after i replace 2 brand new ssd, and these's no system on the ssd? Can someone walk me through the setup step?
You have 2 options:
Either use raid setup (combines the 2 ssd into one, for speed. But i wouldnt recommend it), or setup as 2 different storage space. This can be setup in your BIOS. Then create a bootable USB flashdrive with a windows installer (this can be download from microsoft). Boot from your usb flashdrive and finish your new OS installation.
@@Outoftimet.t go to advanced bios disable raid or it won't detect your nvme unless you get the raid drivers and boot B4 the install which is annoying as heck
@MakaiTechReviews so its f11 to get to bios right? Let say that i want to do 1 drive with window 11 pro first, then the 2nd drive with Ubuntu, is this possible?
where you buy？i dont see anysome can buy inline
Hi, is microphone/camera cable plugged in to the motherboard with display cable or it's another cable somewhere else?
Yeah, most likely that's the case. I cannot find any other cable routed to the top part.
@@MakaiTechReviewsThank you!
Hello i just got my raider 14v and its my first time upgrading which M.2 SSD is the gen 5?
Is it become hot like gs75?
When i play rocket league cpu 80 90 95 c
But gpu only 70 or around it
For anyone looking to buy this laptop, here's my 2 cents! Absolutely GET IT! the 4x ddr5 slots are amazing as far as a x2 to x4 slots, it's extremely quiet, quite a bit of a penny. My only issue is the steel series keyboard drivers sometimes update and you need to manually reinstall driver through device manager. Other than that this beast of a machine is amazing! super fast, super clean, charge ports for usb are amazing and other than that I would recommend getting more ddr as this thing can consume a lot of ram when it comes to multi tasking.
Never had any issues and already filled 4tb or the 8total terabytes i've had. this machine is a upgrade from the gf65thin and i gotta say.. im fucking impressed that they were able to pack a punch and fit so much into this thing.
Im not sure about thermals or paste they are using for the ram for the gpu and the cpu but the chips are different paste from the other.. tired while I was writing this but nonetheless this is a must get
Did you get the intel or AMD model.
hello sir apply liquid metal cpu and gpu performance and what this pad with used on the vrm and memory gpu