As someone whose last console was a PS3, the 5 slim has been nice to play with the past few days. I haven't had any issues and it's much quieter than I was expecting. Looking forward to playing games from the past two gens that I've missed.
PS3 was era wen most ppl didn't know about fps and didn't care... cus most didn't know dat its even a thing.. & ppl used to enjoy their games regardless of this
change the title of the video that it overheats without a fan so that those of us who need to buy it don't open videos like this thinking it's some kind of factory error
@@andrewmtgxNo, unless its defective, not cleaned or not put in a suitable location (vents blocked, in sunlight) you dont need an external fan and the fan inside is enough.
Most of my consoles, I always waited for a "slim" version or hardware revision. The PS5 is the only console I bought the original version, and after seeing what the new one looks like, I made the right choice
You did considering it’s price point the slim is worth it when it’s $350, I remember I got a ps4 slim with Spider-Man DISC for $200 on Black Friday 2018
The thing about the slim version I'm really not happy with is the fact it still has the 6nm chip like the 1200 model, so it basically draws the same amount of power, produces the same amount of heat overall in a smaller formfactor, smaller fan and a smaller heatsink. They really should've waited for a new chip to make the slim more efficient.
The smaller fan is what scares me. When I took my old ps5 apart I remember being in awe at how chunky and solid the fan was compared to the ps4. This huge metal fan kept the ps5 cool and quiet. I think in 5 years we will see the slim ps5 getting louder whereas I think the old one will hold up.
Going from 7nm to 6nm is very easy, but going to 5nm will require redesigning at least 60% of the chip and Sony will not do that because the cost to AMD is huge.
Hey correct me if I’m wrong but when they dismounted it in D2D they says it has a 4nm, getting same performance with almost exact same power consumption
Yeah and that to me doesn't make much sense when you're buying games that most of the time don't have replayability. That way I can at least trade in or sell and still get something back.🤷
@@emanisdeadtheyre talking about how the disc drive has been an afterthought even with the launch ps5, the digital version looked good and symetrical while the disc version didnt
Also, just imagine relaxing in bed with your shiny new Portal and realising that you have to go downstairs to change the disc!! Imagine being at the in-laws or on holiday somewhere!!!! Hundreds or even thousands of miles away!!!! Digital only could happen eventually...
Actually the Slim is well designed. Obviously if you know about airflow, heatsinks etc, you'd know this. The way you can take the PS5 apart to remove the drive, or fan and clean inside is smart. What was the point of turning the fan off and lastly These consoles airflow are designed so that you have it fully assembled before having it on. Just like a PC when you take the side cover off etc. Lastly, Regarding the price etc. The components are more or less the same, the ones that cost $$. APU,RAM,DRIVE. That's why. The chips are not smaller revisions.
The airflow around the parts disassembled is only intake so without them it is actually taking more air and this is something that was already thoroughly tested on the FAT PS5. I just think he's been unlucky and the liquid metal isn't properly applied in this unit or the heatsink isn't properly seated.
I've been with Xbox Series X for a little over a year. I decided to get this version because it looks a lot better from the old. Y'all hating because you're rationalizing the fact you're stuck with the old one haha.
The discord drive thing is just an anti piracy measure so that you can't connect just any disk drive, this is to avoid you writing to disks or making a illegal copy of ps5 games
You bought a ps5 took out the fan just to watch it overheat....that’s pathetic...of course it will overheat its got no fan...oh you wanted to see how long it would last before overheating...how long were you expecting...half an hour...oh please come on 😂
@@jolteon1019 The idea is that this is a totally unnecessary thing to do. If your PS5 fan in fat or slim fails, you are going to find it out pretty quickly.
They normally push firmware out at the end of the console generation that makes it easier to change disk drives . So you probably won’t need to register a disk drive down the line. But that’s not guaranteed so who knows.
I was at Bestbuy today in line to checkout with the Slim, and I winded up just putting it back. Was going to sell my launch PS5 for it, but I realized there's no point.I would be downgrading, IMO. I would have to buy a stand, new dark plates, re-download everything, and pay extra money even after selling my launch model, etc...
@nicks1169 For sure. Even if I sold my PS5 for $400, I'd still have to pay an extra $100+ tax, a $30 stand, and new plates which will be probably $60+ from D-Brand. So like an Extra $200 for a slim. Better just to hold out for a potential "Pro Model" 😅
I've commented this a few times and it feels like I'm the only one that finds it weird that they redesigned it and still couldn't make it sit on a table properly. Something every other console in history has gotten right
@@aki7208 I have the slim with disc, and honestly even if it’s the digital one , why would you put horizontal land start moving it? 😂😂😂just leave it alone turn it on and play lol
Bought my PS5 Slim a couple of weeks ago. Agree, it runs cooler and quieter than its big brother. Really happy with it so far. Love these type of tests. ❤👍
@@bobbyrivera2951 Yeah maybe?? I just noticed that my fat PS4 is also separated with a line where the top half is glossy and the bottom is matte, that never bothered me before and I never really took notice until I saw the slim!!
I'm curious whether the HDMI 2.1 bandwidth will increase from the current 32Gbps to 40 or 48Gbps or stay the same With 4K 120Hz output, the current model outputs compressed YUV instead of RGB output.
No one cares because no difference between yuv422 420 or rgb. Thats only a mistake on your heads... No color difference, no banding difference or shades. Nothing. If you dont believe me check this video.
What you think what is the benefits of rgb? Everything is exactly the same. All the colors and everything. It only matters on pc in some cases... The video games natively develope to solve this "issue".
Honestly kinda bs, I prefer to remove fans from my consoles. Consoles should not require cooling of any kind to compensate for how hot they get, just poor rushed design at sony honestly. The iPhone 15 doesn't have a fan and it runs resident evil 4 with rtx just fine.
Removing the grills at the top of the PS5 console and leaving huge gaps for the slim model is a HUGE serious concern for the following reason: DUST. A lot of people don't put a dust covers on their console when they turn it off and with the old PS5 model dust starts going into the grills (with the grills holding back most of the dust but dust still gets in) and you MUST take the plates off and clean that PS5 at least once a year (you will be surprised how much dust gets in there) or else the dust will eventually start getting into the inner parts of the console and it's going to cause problems in the future. Without the grills, the dust problem is going to get MUCH, MUCH worse and I imagine a lot of people are going to have problems with their PS5 slim models in the future since most people won't bother to take the plates off to clean it.
Dbrand has some nice skin covers that have fan cutouts for the fan to breathe more efficiently and they even got little dust covers you can take out to clean. It's kinda pricey for plastic shells but I'm tempted to get one
Just so you know I owned the PS4 Slim and it also had overheating issues. It seems the slim versions dont have enough coolness circulation compared to the original console versions.
While I appreciate the smaller size of the "Slim" model, I think the inevitable PS5 Pro or whatever they end up calling it will be the one to get for owners of the OG PS5. Sony should have made the PS5 Slim similar to the PS4/PS4 Pro designs or even the Xbox One S/X or Series S/X designs. While I don't mind the PS5's design, it is definitely bizarre looking and is a bit trickier to find a place for it in your setup due to it's shape and size. However since it is so unique looking there is no mistaking it for something else which could happen with the more "generic" designs of the Xbox consoles.
What could they possibly improve to make current ps5 owners to upgrade? 4K60 fps ? 8K60fps? For the average gamer the current ps5 will keep up with games for 10+ years. We are just beggining to get PS5 exclusives
@@aLcAty I still have a feeling that a ps 5 pro will be released shortly before gta 6 gets out, so they can grab more money from the people that switch from old gen
@@aLcAty the PS5 can't render some games at 4k60fps, so on a Pro model, it will be more capable, or at least the dynamic resolution output will look a lot better. You're right that, if you already owned a PS5, there's no need to upgrade, however, they're people whom are waiting for the Pro model and were previously PS4 Pro owners.
Nothing will happen if you are just update the console firmware and it would be safe to remove the disk drive if there's no game insid obviously don't remove the drive if a physical game copy is suspended the console will say close the software before ejecting
It could mess it up because the first time you use the disk drive you have to be connected to the Internet to register it to your PS5. So if you do it while that's going it could mess it up. 'Slim' (pun intended😁) chance but it can happen.
It's smaller, it's lighter, it's quieter, it's cooler. I.e. better in any practical sense, hard to argue with that. And also, without the drive it does look better than older design.
Jacob, any chance you can do a temperature measurement of the new and old PS5 under load (like plant Spider-man 2)? Curious to know if there are any differences in temperature due to the redesign and shrinking of the heat sinks. Thanks!
It looks like someone put a cheap refrigerator in front of a fun house mirror and took a picture of its reflection, and then turned that into a game console.
I would like to see you swap the disc drives between the slims. I wonder how the disc drive "registration" works. Any way, great video! Looking forwards to Saturdays video. Hopefully some smokin' silicone too
you should do a SLIM vs OG PS5 temp test :) , but for new console owners , should they take the OG or SLIM ? feels like slim is easier to tear down compared to its predecessor .
The old models will disappear eventually. The "slim" will be the only one available in the market. Future console owners have no choice but to accept it.
Just came from xbox to ps5 n mines overheats constantly after playing spider man i cant play any ps5 game n done got to the point where i cant even play ps4 games
I don't have a PS5 and I was considering buying one. I'm on the fence of either getting the slim or the OG but the thing is the slim is regular price because the past slim models I've bought for 200 bucks.
This isn’t a slim ps5. Idk why everyone is saying it is. This ps5 is just a revisioned versioned ps5 to replace the old giant ps5. The base model is the same price but the digital is unreasonably $50 more.
That finally answers my question about being able to register the disc drive without being on the latest firmware. No. Great! Terrible to people who want to set a new slim aside and wait for the current firmware to be jailbreakable. Unless in that jailbreak is an option to locally marry the disc drive like on old PS3s
the disc drive only gets paired when the disc drive is plugged in. if you just disconnect the disc drive on first boot, it wont pair the disc drive to the console, as it isnt plugged in.
At my works holiday party. My coworker won the PS5 Slim Call of Duty Modern Warfare bundle. Then I won the PS5 Slim Spider-Man 2 Bundle from a different raffle at work. Now I know what everything looks like in side the box and the PS5 without opening yet! Thanks!
There's likely a system in place to deauthorize and reauthorize, which is probably why it needs internet to set up. Similar to a 'home' console designation.
@@RenegadePandaZwell then they shouldn’t have released it because of that they really need to understand that most people aren’t into tech why you think right to repair is getting destroyed
@@bobbyharris2270 uh...this system isnt new, its been that way since the PS3 at least. Its basically just digitally signing a warranty card, if within that time you have a failure you just ship it back and you get either a new one or yours fixed. If you have no issues then there's no problem.
You could. But you would also have to register that drive to the console when you first connect it. The whole 'registering the drive' thing is actually something Sony legally have to do for content copyright reasons. It's not some sneaky thing that a lot of people think it is for some reason.
@@bpowick if it truly is for legal reasons as they claim, then how come whenever I buy an external Blu Ray drive for my laptop and plug it in it just works without having to connect to the internet? The whole legal requirement thing is BS and you know it.
The best model is the god of war bundle if you can find it brand new, the fan was smaller but just as strong and there was quite a bit of empty room inside so there is nice airflow.
@@antonio3789not sure why people with the OG ps5 hate on the slim, I just got one as a first time PlayStation owner for $514 after taxes, and I actually don’t see a problem with it, it’s held up pretty well
There's a lot of people going overboard about the whole having to connect to the internet to register the drive thing. It is actually something Sony legally have to do for content copyright reasons. It's not some sneaky thing that a lot of people think it is for some reason. If, let's say, Microsoft released a series X slim also with a removable disc drive you would also have to do the same thing with that when first booting it up.
It is crazy how people are complaining about needing internet access to register the disc drive. Who would not have internet access owning a fricking PS5?
It's just a pain. My wifi is so garbage in the woods I cant stream anything, so when I get a new console, probably this cuz I can, I MIGHT have to get a freakin motel to do it all lol.
@@jrob0021it’s not a slim. A slim has totally different expectations. This is just a better version of a base ps5. Just because it’s smaller it shouldnt be considered with slim expectations
@@jrob0021and no. Not everyone knows it’s a slim. by calling it a slim-I hope you TH-camrs realize the miss information everyone is taking in. People are wondering why the price is the same and why it’s not that mush smaller. You TH-camrs are so naïve.
I wonder if you can swap disc drives, like if you want to sell your disc drive and just have it digital, wonder if it is some Apple kind of DRM for parts situtation with the PS5 disc drive.
I’m glad I got the original with the optical drive. Have to register a disc drive on the internet before you can use it just seems so backwards. Edit: Thanks for explaining it everyone who did.
It's a one time thing likely designed to stop third parties from releasing unauthorized drives. Sucks, but I understand why they do it. The second you make something removable, the vultures will swoop in and try to make their own versions, which will probably break in short order.
Sony is really strict with copyrighted contents. The detachable disc drive is probably the most vulnerable part for modding so that's why the console needs to verify that you use a legit drive.
the enite thing is the dude finding things to complaina bout. he lost me when he said the ps5 slim isnt smaler than the ps5 while im looking right at the size differenece. funk outta here
@@johnreeves6854 I could be wrong but everyone is just saying negative things about this new model because it doesn’t fully fulfill the expectations of what a slim model should. But guess what-it’s NOT a slim ps5
Best PS5 is the CF1-1216a It has the 6nm chip and a better cooling system than the slim. When PS5 came out first, Sony focused on telling everyone how good their cooling system was, and that was the reason the console had to be so big. With the slim the cooling system has taken a big hit and the smaller fan now has to work much harder. I'll stick to my CFI-1216a
The slim has a 19 blade fan. The fat has a 17 blade fan. Your last video where you replaced the fan on the Spiderman 2 ps5. It was the wrong fan, meant for the slim.
Considering that you have to update to use the disc drive and it's not even a price change with cheaper stand components and a uglier look I am content with my 2023 PS5 digital edition. I can see that this console refresh will have to go through some updates and changes before it becomes viable like the previous one as well. I hope I am wrong but we shall see if they remake it or refresh it like the PS4 Slim.
It seems that there is still a bit of a "fan lottery" going on with the PS5 Slim. I got a couple of CFI-2016 models over the last week and both had a pretty annoying high pitched UFO sound when in game (not coil whine - more like poor seating of the fan). The fans also look visibly different to the one you received which points towards them using different manufacturers. I'm not returning the second one because the noise is slightly more bearable than the first, but ill definitely be replacing it with a higher quality fan when they release onto the repairs market. Either that, or I might try putting some O rings on the screws to see if that nullifies some of the sound. It only bothers me because I'm used to gaming on a near-silent gaming PC and an Xbox Series X which is known to be significantly quieter than the various PS5 models overall.
just got mine today, upgrading from ps4 and getting cod essentially for free with the bundle seems like a good buy imo. probably worthless to get it if you already have a ps5 but coming from ps4 I have 0 complaints so far.
@@noddy228Some games have improved graphics and performance. It is not a huge leap forward but we will see in a couple of years. Loading times are insanely quick. Sometimes it feels weird when a game takes longer. I used to play Crash Team Racing on Switch and PS4 and loading times for that particular game are stupidly long. But on the PS5 it is way faster.
Spoiler- Ps5 will brick if you remove hardware during update process, only way to fix it is to reattach the hardware and install the ps5 os from a usb stick. Ps5 is checking for every known hardware component during software update, it cant complete the process if it cant find a hardware component that it knows, like a paired disc drive
The PS5 slim actually looks really cool. People have their opinions on it and I think it looks cool. It will fit perfectly on my gaming entertainment center. I get it next week. I ordered the optical disc drive since the ones with the disc drive already in is sold out so my only option was digital and order the disc drive. I don’t see a problem with that. Yes it’s a bit more but not by much. That being said, I think it looks really cool!
I saw ur other videos man..glad ur ps5 slim didn't got bricked..wat a relief..u take so many risks man.. I'm impressed..u r too good..god bless you man..i subscribed ur channel
This has actually been a thing since the PS3. They just never advertised it because there was never a reason to remove the optical drive unless it was nonfunctional, And because bluray was a rather expensive technology The optical drives were built to last, so they didn't need to advertise it.
I had done some tests with my friends and my ps5 slim its about the same for everything the only thing is if its put verticly it heats more for some reason
I love the slim a lot better, looks so much better, I hated that big ps5 next to my Xbox series x looking so huge, I’m getting the slim I sold my big old ps5. Plus more storage 1tb instead of 825gb.
@jajuangarcia7048 me too, I'd go horizontal... these rumors about the liquid + it's declared that u can put it both ways... so why not horizontal. Just make sure to clean the ps5 every a couple of months depends where u live.
If this thing was $300 it would be cool. At a price increase and with less included (no vertical stand, digital game with a DISC console) this is crap. It would be fine if it wasn’t completely replacing current models but Sony knows they’re scamming us so they have to replace the model entirely in order for anyone to actually buy this.
@@Matt-dp7ze They are making a profit now. They weren’t the first two years and that’s normal for consoles. It’s also normal to lower the price with a mid-gen redesign, not increase it.
It’s slim enough. I’d say it’s slim where it matters: The length and depth. I have a low profile tv stand and when I pull the standard ps5 a few inches from the wall to allow for better ventilation, the game console is right on the edge of my tv stand. My shelves are also not very wide, so the ps5 takes up so much space that there’s no room on the side to dock controllers. My One X is on the shelf below, and the shelf is the exact same size and there’s plenty of room to dock a couple of Xbox controllers next to it. So yeah, this console is now slim enough for me that I can finally fit a controller dock next to it. I don’t think both look better standing vertical but I don’t have a setup that lets me do that without obstructing some of the view of the tv. So, this ps5 should be perfect for my needs
Do u already have one? Cus part of the problem is that the slim replaces the original (so they wont make or sell the OG one anymore) so if u dont have one already, u gotta buy the slim or buy the OG second hand/used.
So you unplugged the fan and when the ps5 overheated you started crying createing problem that doesn't exist for views this has to be one of the worst ways to gain clicks on the internet ive seen alot of other tec youtubers saying the that this thing didn't overheat when they used it and they're impressed with this thing but you had to create a problem that doesn't exist 💀
I just bought a slim today, Its gonna be the new standard. They’re stopping production on the old ones.. So far it’s worked perfectly fine, just as good as my old model. It comes with more storage and is much quieter.. Why is it getting so much hate?
Sony finally did some things right! I mean you can easily disassemble the console and clean it, or even replace some components. Wow. Just remember the terrible PS3 Super Slim.
What’re you guys thinking about the PS5 slim? Just feels too cheap to me… and at the same price?
I know I would prefer the original ps5 with the disc drive
Yeah 👍🏻 bro 😎 it’s sure does look cheap alright for sure and I don’t like it at all and great review and unboxing bro too
Glad I got my original one.
It dose seem cheap
Its not the PS5 Slim, just a redesign of the original one
As someone whose last console was a PS3, the 5 slim has been nice to play with the past few days. I haven't had any issues and it's much quieter than I was expecting. Looking forward to playing games from the past two gens that I've missed.
Plenty of great games like 2018 Spider-Man. The FPS comparison is completely stable compared to ps3.
PS3 was era wen most ppl didn't know about fps and didn't care... cus most didn't know dat its even a thing.. & ppl used to enjoy their games regardless of this
Same here. I finally am able to play PS4 games.
Since there’s only a handful of PS5 games, I basically just got a PS4 Pro Pro slim thicc.
Is it low power consumption compare to 1st ps5?
@@kill3rbyysightreal
change the title of the video that it overheats without a fan so that those of us who need to buy it don't open videos like this thinking it's some kind of factory error
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So by design it overheats and you need to buy a fan?
@@andrewmtgxNo, unless its defective, not cleaned or not put in a suitable location (vents blocked, in sunlight) you dont need an external fan and the fan inside is enough.
@@andrewmtgx bro did you even watch the video, he unpluggs its original fan
Most of my consoles, I always waited for a "slim" version or hardware revision. The PS5 is the only console I bought the original version, and after seeing what the new one looks like, I made the right choice
You did considering it’s price point the slim is worth it when it’s $350, I remember I got a ps4 slim with Spider-Man DISC for $200 on Black Friday 2018
Especially when they have the tendency to remove features for no reasons like for the PS3.
@@foufoufun at least PS3 slim is more reliable than the fat one. Still have mine working perfectly and with the warranty sticker on.
@@bizarroeddie1 I guess but losing backward compatibility (even software emulation) was a big blow. There was absolutely no reason to remove it.
Same
The thing about the slim version I'm really not happy with is the fact it still has the 6nm chip like the 1200 model, so it basically draws the same amount of power, produces the same amount of heat overall in a smaller formfactor, smaller fan and a smaller heatsink.
They really should've waited for a new chip to make the slim more efficient.
They can just do that next year. Like they're updating this thing every year since release
The smaller fan is what scares me. When I took my old ps5 apart I remember being in awe at how chunky and solid the fan was compared to the ps4. This huge metal fan kept the ps5 cool and quiet. I think in 5 years we will see the slim ps5 getting louder whereas I think the old one will hold up.
Going from 7nm to 6nm is very easy, but going to 5nm will require redesigning at least 60% of the chip and Sony will not do that because the cost to AMD is huge.
It may be a smaller heatsink, but it’s a more efficient one placed in a better position.
Hey correct me if I’m wrong but when they dismounted it in D2D they says it has a 4nm, getting same performance with almost exact same power consumption
The ps5 slim looks so fake
HEY THIS MF GOT THE FAKE PS5
No that is real
Truee
@@megamcinniss9170unfortunately it is it just looks goofy
True
This is crazy that the disc drive is treated like something foreign. They’re really pushing us to digital
Yeah and that to me doesn't make much sense when you're buying games that most of the time don't have replayability. That way I can at least trade in or sell and still get something back.🤷
no... they can't just make the disc drive smaller lol, that isn't how that works.
@@emanisdeadtheyre talking about how the disc drive has been an afterthought even with the launch ps5, the digital version looked good and symetrical while the disc version didnt
Fear mongering again? Disc's will be here through the life cycle of the PS5, and likely PS6.
Also, just imagine relaxing in bed with your shiny new Portal and realising that you have to go downstairs to change the disc!! Imagine being at the in-laws or on holiday somewhere!!!! Hundreds or even thousands of miles away!!!! Digital only could happen eventually...
I really like the slight design revision with the four panels. Looks super sleek imo.
Now if only sony can release those cobalt blue plates for the slim
@@aspirationrecordsthey did
Actually the Slim is well designed. Obviously if you know about airflow, heatsinks etc, you'd know this. The way you can take the PS5 apart to remove the drive, or fan and clean inside is smart.
What was the point of turning the fan off and lastly These consoles airflow are designed so that you have it fully assembled before having it on.
Just like a PC when you take the side cover off etc.
Lastly, Regarding the price etc.
The components are more or less the same, the ones that cost $$. APU,RAM,DRIVE. That's why. The chips are not smaller revisions.
The airflow around the parts disassembled is only intake so without them it is actually taking more air and this is something that was already thoroughly tested on the FAT PS5. I just think he's been unlucky and the liquid metal isn't properly applied in this unit or the heatsink isn't properly seated.
haters gonna hate 🙂 It's a great console!!
In my opinion the slim looks better then the original
@@MrHitmanJoshyeah and it fits better.
@@MrHitmanJoshagreed! I like how it has 4 panels instead of 2! I also like how you can take off the disk drive.
The ps5 slim is better...
Standard disc PS5 is better
I've been with Xbox Series X for a little over a year. I decided to get this version because it looks a lot better from the old. Y'all hating because you're rationalizing the fact you're stuck with the old one haha.
You should swap the disc drives and see if you can re-register them to different consoles.
Mystic already did. It works fine. Doesn't even say that the drive is registered to another ps5 or anything
@kamalaharry9514you can. Inform yourself.
@RadecStahlno its true you can swap them from console to console, all you have to do is update your PS5
The discord drive thing is just an anti piracy measure so that you can't connect just any disk drive, this is to avoid you writing to disks or making a illegal copy of ps5 games
I like the look of the slim. That's probably the reason why some people hate it as I understand. But as long as the slim runs well though.
I just bought mine and it looks better in person. I don’t think it’s ugly like a lot of the comments are saying
You're better off with a standard PS5
@@crumdrumps5 is a ps5
I don't hate the look of the slim but it's not as appealing as the original to me. That's the beauty of opinions tho.
@@ben5966Me too i thought it's ugly but when i got it really looks Beautiful In Person
You bought a ps5 took out the fan just to watch it overheat....that’s pathetic...of course it will overheat its got no fan...oh you wanted to see how long it would last before overheating...how long were you expecting...half an hour...oh please come on 😂
The idea is to measure the temperature to see at which point the console goes in safe mode
@@jolteon1019 The idea is that this is a totally unnecessary thing to do. If your PS5 fan in fat or slim fails, you are going to find it out pretty quickly.
They normally push firmware out at the end of the console generation that makes it easier to change disk drives . So you probably won’t need to register a disk drive down the line. But that’s not guaranteed so who knows.
I'd really like to think some developer/hacker would find a way to bypass the Disc drive working without needing internet once the PS5 is EOL.
bro most people never even seen a ps5 slim and you’re out here trying to break one
I was at Bestbuy today in line to checkout with the Slim, and I winded up just putting it back. Was going to sell my launch PS5 for it, but I realized there's no point.I would be downgrading, IMO. I would have to buy a stand, new dark plates, re-download everything, and pay extra money even after selling my launch model, etc...
Sounds like you made the right choice, saving a lot
@nicks1169 For sure. Even if I sold my PS5 for $400, I'd still have to pay an extra $100+ tax, a $30 stand, and new plates which will be probably $60+ from D-Brand. So like an Extra $200 for a slim. Better just to hold out for a potential "Pro Model" 😅
@lordsluggg Nah of course not. Was expecting it to at least play Switch games and have Steam OS.
You get more storage 1tb instead of 825 think that’s what the old one had so it’s alittle upgrade lol
@@dodgeram1500tnshit at that point just put the extra money towards an ssd extension
I've commented this a few times and it feels like I'm the only one that finds it weird that they redesigned it and still couldn't make it sit on a table properly. Something every other console in history has gotten right
It sits on my table perfectly fine so idk what you’re tryna say 😂
@@joselofernandez243 Without a stand?
@@joselofernandez243not horizontally
@@Z64bit yeah without the stand
@@aki7208 I have the slim with disc, and honestly even if it’s the digital one , why would you put horizontal land start moving it? 😂😂😂just leave it alone turn it on and play lol
Bought my PS5 Slim a couple of weeks ago. Agree, it runs cooler and quieter than its big brother. Really happy with it so far. Love these type of tests. ❤👍
Who's bright idea was it to split the sides in half?
USSR and USA 💀
I believe it’s cuz of the cheap plastic stand. They needed the spacing in between plates. Crazy I know
@@bobbyrivera2951
I thought it was because the drive is freely removable??
@@TH-cam-Grifter the ssd is freely removable too, why did they need different plates for the disk drive? Idk both things could be true 🤷♂️
@@bobbyrivera2951
Yeah maybe??
I just noticed that my fat PS4 is also separated with a line where the top half is glossy and the bottom is matte, that never bothered me before and I never really took notice until I saw the slim!!
I'm curious whether the HDMI 2.1 bandwidth will increase from the current 32Gbps to 40 or
48Gbps or stay the same
With 4K 120Hz output, the current model outputs compressed YUV instead of RGB output.
ion even know why ps capped it
No one cares because no difference between yuv422 420 or rgb. Thats only a mistake on your heads... No color difference, no banding difference or shades. Nothing.
If you dont believe me check this video.
What you think what is the benefits of rgb? Everything is exactly the same. All the colors and everything. It only matters on pc in some cases... The video games natively develope to solve this "issue".
@gaborgabor6528 Its because it doesnt support YUV 4:4:4 (Full rate YUV) instead it will use croma subsampling.
And what is the problem with chroma subsampling?
I can’t believe it over heated without a fan ! Wow real genius work !
Honestly kinda bs, I prefer to remove fans from my consoles. Consoles should not require cooling of any kind to compensate for how hot they get, just poor rushed design at sony honestly. The iPhone 15 doesn't have a fan and it runs resident evil 4 with rtx just fine.
@@deadpixel8202you’re joking right ?
Yes.@@Aceinfinity-le8zc
@@deadpixel8202”just fine” while the iPhone 15 has an overheating issue. Mobile and console chips are not the same.
@@deadpixel8202 wtf
Removing the grills at the top of the PS5 console and leaving huge gaps for the slim model is a HUGE serious concern for the following reason: DUST. A lot of people don't put a dust covers on their console when they turn it off and with the old PS5 model dust starts going into the grills (with the grills holding back most of the dust but dust still gets in) and you MUST take the plates off and clean that PS5 at least once a year (you will be surprised how much dust gets in there) or else the dust will eventually start getting into the inner parts of the console and it's going to cause problems in the future. Without the grills, the dust problem is going to get MUCH, MUCH worse and I imagine a lot of people are going to have problems with their PS5 slim models in the future since most people won't bother to take the plates off to clean it.
Cockroaches as well 😬😬
Dbrand has some nice skin covers that have fan cutouts for the fan to breathe more efficiently and they even got little dust covers you can take out to clean. It's kinda pricey for plastic shells but I'm tempted to get one
@@chiyad549and i have severe infestation of the roaches i wouldn't consider this😪
I at least clean my fan every 6 months. I don’t think cats help the situation.
Easy access to clean dust builds up regardless.
I prefer my 1200. No reason to upgrade plus it looks like made with cheaper materials plus they took out the side plastic grills that looked cool.
I'll wait for the PS5 Pro
It looks better then the old chunky cheap plastic version.
@@droppenheimer1 You say that like the slim is made from metal 😂
@droppenheimer1 The Slim looks more cheap and plastic looking 🤣
Aguess i can't tell because i have them both...@@ItsXpensive
Just so you know I owned the PS4 Slim and it also had overheating issues. It seems the slim versions dont have enough coolness circulation compared to the original console versions.
I have a PS3 super slim and that thing was goated. It didn't overheat ever
I had a PS4 slim for a couple years and it never overheated
He disconnected the fan…. The slim doesn’t have overheating issues 🤦🏿♂️ when are people going to be smart enough to watch the vid to see that…
i had ps4 slim for. 7 years no overheat
While I appreciate the smaller size of the "Slim" model, I think the inevitable PS5 Pro or whatever they end up calling it will be the one to get for owners of the OG PS5. Sony should have made the PS5 Slim similar to the PS4/PS4 Pro designs or even the Xbox One S/X or Series S/X designs. While I don't mind the PS5's design, it is definitely bizarre looking and is a bit trickier to find a place for it in your setup due to it's shape and size. However since it is so unique looking there is no mistaking it for something else which could happen with the more "generic" designs of the Xbox consoles.
What could they possibly improve to make current ps5 owners to upgrade? 4K60 fps ? 8K60fps? For the average gamer the current ps5 will keep up with games for 10+ years. We are just beggining to get PS5 exclusives
@@aLcAty I still have a feeling that a ps 5 pro will be released shortly before gta 6 gets out, so they can grab more money from the people that switch from old gen
@@aLcAty the PS5 can't render some games at 4k60fps, so on a Pro model, it will be more capable, or at least the dynamic resolution output will look a lot better. You're right that, if you already owned a PS5, there's no need to upgrade, however, they're people whom are waiting for the Pro model and were previously PS4 Pro owners.
Gotta wait another 3 years for that
It would be interesting to see what’s happening when removing the discdrive while updating
nothing happens
Nothing will happen if you are just update the console firmware and it would be safe to remove the disk drive if there's no game insid obviously don't remove the drive if a physical game copy is suspended the console will say close the software before ejecting
I try a bunch of random experiments with the ps5 slim disc drive in my video tomorrow 👍
Yeah, he said that.
It could mess it up because the first time you use the disk drive you have to be connected to the Internet to register it to your PS5. So if you do it while that's going it could mess it up. 'Slim' (pun intended😁) chance but it can happen.
It's smaller, it's lighter, it's quieter, it's cooler. I.e. better in any practical sense, hard to argue with that. And also, without the drive it does look better than older design.
It's cooler?
Don't forget the increased SSD capacity, I'm definitely gonna buy the new model.
@@S.I.S.Martinyou can add another ssd I just added another one to my Ps5 it’s pretty easy
It runs hotter and louder than a base PS5.
@@Ding-2014 wrong
Jacob, any chance you can do a temperature measurement of the new and old PS5 under load (like plant Spider-man 2)? Curious to know if there are any differences in temperature due to the redesign and shrinking of the heat sinks. Thanks!
me too
I've had my PS5 slim for months, still working fine.
It looks like someone put a cheap refrigerator in front of a fun house mirror and took a picture of its reflection, and then turned that into a game console.
I would like to see you swap the disc drives between the slims. I wonder how the disc drive "registration" works. Any way, great video! Looking forwards to Saturdays video. Hopefully some smokin' silicone too
Tonicsfix already did that, they're interchangeable
Nice
you should do a SLIM vs OG PS5 temp test :) , but for new console owners , should they take the OG or SLIM ? feels like slim is easier to tear down compared to its predecessor .
The old models will disappear eventually. The "slim" will be the only one available in the market. Future console owners have no choice but to accept it.
I’m getting a ps5 this Christmas should I get the slim or normal
Same here idk which one will be better 😅
Just came from xbox to ps5 n mines overheats constantly after playing spider man i cant play any ps5 game n done got to the point where i cant even play ps4 games
I don't have a PS5 and I was considering buying one. I'm on the fence of either getting the slim or the OG but the thing is the slim is regular price because the past slim models I've bought for 200 bucks.
This isn’t a slim ps5.
Idk why everyone is saying it is.
This ps5 is just a revisioned versioned ps5 to replace the old giant ps5.
The base model is the same price but the digital is unreasonably $50 more.
Wait for the pro, the pro will around the time gta VI comes out
@@DrinksAndNugssource: trust me bro
@@jahanbaxter PlayStation 4 came out with a pro
That finally answers my question about being able to register the disc drive without being on the latest firmware. No. Great! Terrible to people who want to set a new slim aside and wait for the current firmware to be jailbreakable. Unless in that jailbreak is an option to locally marry the disc drive like on old PS3s
It's how Xbox operates as well. They're basically the same now.
the disc drive only gets paired when the disc drive is plugged in. if you just disconnect the disc drive on first boot, it wont pair the disc drive to the console, as it isnt plugged in.
I don't think Sony is too concerned about the customers who want to jailbreak their consoles. It does suck for console longevity though
No one will ever want a PS5 in the future
I just bought mine and seeing this made me feel uneasy 😂
I don’t even care bout the design, I just want to play the games
Could you not just stand it up anyway what’s the point in an actual vertical stand
@uchralbayarnyam5833 where did you buy it from ?
@@hudaifhabulohom507 Best Buy. I’m pretty sure it’s available at other places. You just have to do a little digging
@@hudaifhabulohom507it’s available everywhere. PlayStation, Best Buy, Target…
At my works holiday party. My coworker won the PS5 Slim Call of Duty Modern Warfare bundle. Then I won the PS5 Slim Spider-Man 2 Bundle from a different raffle at work. Now I know what everything looks like in side the box and the PS5 without opening yet! Thanks!
Try removing the drive during an update, full send my guy lol
Have the same system keep it on or in rest mode for days, no problems.
Them tying the disk drive to the console almost for sure means you cannot buy a used drive if yours fails. Which sucks.
There's likely a system in place to deauthorize and reauthorize, which is probably why it needs internet to set up. Similar to a 'home' console designation.
@@RenegadePandaZwell then they shouldn’t have released it because of that they really need to understand that most people aren’t into tech why you think right to repair is getting destroyed
@@bobbyharris2270 uh...this system isnt new, its been that way since the PS3 at least. Its basically just digitally signing a warranty card, if within that time you have a failure you just ship it back and you get either a new one or yours fixed. If you have no issues then there's no problem.
You could. But you would also have to register that drive to the console when you first connect it. The whole 'registering the drive' thing is actually something Sony legally have to do for content copyright reasons. It's not some sneaky thing that a lot of people think it is for some reason.
@@bpowick if it truly is for legal reasons as they claim, then how come whenever I buy an external Blu Ray drive for my laptop and plug it in it just works without having to connect to the internet? The whole legal requirement thing is BS and you know it.
The best model is the god of war bundle if you can find it brand new, the fan was smaller but just as strong and there was quite a bit of empty room inside so there is nice airflow.
Have that one and I didn’t know it was different from the other models/bundles
Everyone hating cause they spent $800+ on their mini fridge PS5😂
I bought mine for $540 slim version to sucks for you your probably one of those Timmy’s that really wanted one and got one from a scalper
@@antonio3789not sure why people with the OG ps5 hate on the slim, I just got one as a first time PlayStation owner for $514 after taxes, and I actually don’t see a problem with it, it’s held up pretty well
@@antonio3789 Yapping cuz you paid the same for the fat one for 100GB less😂Go buy More storage for 200€ lil bro
Ain’t yapping buddy just stating facts
At it has 1 TB of space the original has only 825 GB
There's a lot of people going overboard about the whole having to connect to the internet to register the drive thing. It is actually something Sony legally have to do for content copyright reasons. It's not some sneaky thing that a lot of people think it is for some reason. If, let's say, Microsoft released a series X slim also with a removable disc drive you would also have to do the same thing with that when first booting it up.
It is crazy how people are complaining about needing internet access to register the disc drive.
Who would not have internet access owning a fricking PS5?
It's just a pain. My wifi is so garbage in the woods I cant stream anything, so when I get a new console, probably this cuz I can, I MIGHT have to get a freakin motel to do it all lol.
is it officially named the Slim? I thought it was just a design update
It's Called The PS5 2.0
They’re not calling it the slim, but everyone knows that’s what it is
@@jrob0021ermmm….. at GameStop, Best Buy, Amazon, Walmart, Dell, EBay, Etc, classifies it as slim…. So it is
@@jrob0021it’s not a slim.
A slim has totally different expectations.
This is just a better version of a base ps5. Just because it’s smaller it shouldnt be considered with slim expectations
@@jrob0021and no. Not everyone knows it’s a slim.
by calling it a slim-I hope you TH-camrs realize the miss information everyone is taking in.
People are wondering why the price is the same and why it’s not that mush smaller.
You TH-camrs are so naïve.
The ps5 slim looks like one of those fake ps5 concepts you would see before it was even out
I remember seeing pictures of it months before it was announced and I was like no way then boom. Sony : new ps5 is here.
You should also see if you can register both disk drives to one PS5 since you have two and then see if it will register back to the other one.
The only benefit I see is not having the eject button right next to the power button and virtually no markings to differentiate the two…
More usb c
More storage
Smaller
Looks better
HDMI far away from the 'hot zone'. The most common problem with the PS5 is the HDMI port melting down.
@chandllerburse737 yeah but it’s changed enough we’re it’s actually pleasing.
Im glad i got myself Spiderman limited edition 1200 model. Runs like a boss.
Why turn off the fan..
Y'all be working on the console that's why dey mess up 😭😭😭 take some ware to get it fix still of doing it at home
I wonder if you can swap disc drives, like if you want to sell your disc drive and just have it digital, wonder if it is some Apple kind of DRM for parts situtation with the PS5 disc drive.
I’m glad I got the original with the optical drive. Have to register a disc drive on the internet before you can use it just seems so backwards.
Edit: Thanks for explaining it everyone who did.
It's a one time thing likely designed to stop third parties from releasing unauthorized drives. Sucks, but I understand why they do it. The second you make something removable, the vultures will swoop in and try to make their own versions, which will probably break in short order.
@@RenegadePandaZ they're legally required to do so, not really anything Sony can do about that
That’s woke
Ya know whats backwards? this comment, and clearly havent read the context of why it is
Sony is really strict with copyrighted contents. The detachable disc drive is probably the most vulnerable part for modding so that's why the console needs to verify that you use a legit drive.
Around the 4:40 mark, why are the Slim PS5 upside down look different in size for their plates? Something isn't right there.
I love my ps 5 slim disc version it's the best console out now till the new one drop 💧💧💧
Why didn't you swap the disc drives after registering between the two slims?
Watch tomorrow's video... 👀
the enite thing is the dude finding things to complaina bout. he lost me when he said the ps5 slim isnt smaler than the ps5 while im looking right at the size differenece. funk outta here
Regardless of the little extra storage most will add a 2 or more ter drive to system can't believe it's built cheaper and cost more
You don’t know that. The new architecture might not be cheaper to build
@balloonb0y677 that's true I was just goin by what others have said that do this but your right
@@johnreeves6854 I could be wrong but everyone is just saying negative things about this new model because it doesn’t fully fulfill the expectations of what a slim model should.
But guess what-it’s NOT a slim ps5
Of course it's going to overheat if you unplug the fan what does that prove
it proves that people will do anything to hate on something
Mine is overheating on day 1. What a poor design wtf
Should I get the slim or fat one ?😢
@@y2np_platinum43 I returned the overheating one and the replacement seems to be fine
@@elephantmoney ohhh alr thanks
Please no suggestion of a external power supply. Those power blocks are the devil's work. Always bumping into them since the mid 80's. So frustrating.
Tldr : the ps5 slim overheats when I take the fan out so I'm going to make the thumbnail say that it's bad.
Why's everyone hating on the ps5 slim
Best PS5 is the CF1-1216a
It has the 6nm chip and a better cooling system than the slim. When PS5 came out first, Sony focused on telling everyone how good their cooling system was, and that was the reason the console had to be so big. With the slim the cooling system has taken a big hit and the smaller fan now has to work much harder. I'll stick to my CFI-1216a
The slim has a 19 blade fan.
The fat has a 17 blade fan.
Your last video where you replaced the fan on the Spiderman 2 ps5. It was the wrong fan, meant for the slim.
the fat ps5 fan doesn't fit the ps5 slim
The original has deep cooling system with liquid cooling. Never overheated once in 4 years
Dbrand is probably gonna make full side plates instead of these split plates
AliExpress as well. They do a ton of plates that are identical for a fraction of the price.
Bro my ps5 doesn’t get loud at all playing Spiderman 2. wtf is wrong with your ps5?
So how thinner is the slim ps five compare to the original disk version
When you have personal problems with a console
Considering that you have to update to use the disc drive and it's not even a price change with cheaper stand components and a uglier look I am content with my 2023 PS5 digital edition. I can see that this console refresh will have to go through some updates and changes before it becomes viable like the previous one as well. I hope I am wrong but we shall see if they remake it or refresh it like the PS4 Slim.
It seems that there is still a bit of a "fan lottery" going on with the PS5 Slim. I got a couple of CFI-2016 models over the last week and both had a pretty annoying high pitched UFO sound when in game (not coil whine - more like poor seating of the fan). The fans also look visibly different to the one you received which points towards them using different manufacturers. I'm not returning the second one because the noise is slightly more bearable than the first, but ill definitely be replacing it with a higher quality fan when they release onto the repairs market. Either that, or I might try putting some O rings on the screws to see if that nullifies some of the sound. It only bothers me because I'm used to gaming on a near-silent gaming PC and an Xbox Series X which is known to be significantly quieter than the various PS5 models overall.
just got mine today, upgrading from ps4 and getting cod essentially for free with the bundle seems like a good buy imo. probably worthless to get it if you already have a ps5 but coming from ps4 I have 0 complaints so far.
Hello I'm hoping to also upgrade from my ps4 and was just wounding have you noticed a big difference in graphics and upload speed
@@noddy228Some games have improved graphics and performance. It is not a huge leap forward but we will see in a couple of years.
Loading times are insanely quick. Sometimes it feels weird when a game takes longer.
I used to play Crash Team Racing on Switch and PS4 and loading times for that particular game are stupidly long. But on the PS5 it is way faster.
@@LIES1988GNR Thank you
@@noddy228 massive upgrade and being able to play next gen games. very worth it
Any overheating issues? I want to buy it but nervous of that
Spoiler- Ps5 will brick if you remove hardware during update process, only way to fix it is to reattach the hardware and install the ps5 os from a usb stick. Ps5 is checking for every known hardware component during software update, it cant complete the process if it cant find a hardware component that it knows, like a paired disc drive
The PS5 slim actually looks really cool. People have their opinions on it and I think it looks cool. It will fit perfectly on my gaming entertainment center. I get it next week. I ordered the optical disc drive since the ones with the disc drive already in is sold out so my only option was digital and order the disc drive. I don’t see a problem with that. Yes it’s a bit more but not by much. That being said, I think it looks really cool!
How long does it take for the console overheating message to appear?
The original PS5 looks like a $500 console on your shelf the slim looks like a $300 console if that. I’d never buy the slim.
the slim just's feels cheaper because it's smaller. It even has a 1 year longer lifespan
I saw ur other videos man..glad ur ps5 slim didn't got bricked..wat a relief..u take so many risks man.. I'm impressed..u r too good..god bless you man..i subscribed ur channel
Having to register a disc drive to a console is absolutely insane to me.
i don’t really see the issue here, its a one time thing plus why get a ps5 with no internet connection?
Exactly..why get a ps5 with no internet capability. Just a paper weight.
@@craftymulligar smart guy
Write your congressman and tell them how you don’t like that US law
This has actually been a thing since the PS3. They just never advertised it because there was never a reason to remove the optical drive unless it was nonfunctional, And because bluray was a rather expensive technology The optical drives were built to last, so they didn't need to advertise it.
Remember opening up the disc flap on the ps2 slim for it too cool down?
I like the bit when you make people think you overheated it by accident, because you knew people would click.
I had done some tests with my friends and my ps5 slim its about the same for everything the only thing is if its put verticly it heats more for some reason
I’ll wait for the eventual pro version since I already have mine since launch.
this console tastes pretty good you should try it
I love the slim a lot better, looks so much better, I hated that big ps5 next to my Xbox series x looking so huge, I’m getting the slim I sold my big old ps5. Plus more storage 1tb instead of 825gb.
OG Jacob. MAAAAAN, Im excited for that video.
is vertical or horizontal better to have it in?
It doesn't matter
u sure? ig i’m paranoid because i keep hearing abt these liquid metal stories but some people are saying it was fake so now idk which way to put it as
@jajuangarcia7048 me too, I'd go horizontal... these rumors about the liquid + it's declared that u can put it both ways... so why not horizontal. Just make sure to clean the ps5 every a couple of months depends where u live.
@@jajuangarcia7048if you are scared then go with horizontal.
Upside down is preferred
Man figures out video game systems need fans.
If this thing was $300 it would be cool. At a price increase and with less included (no vertical stand, digital game with a DISC console) this is crap. It would be fine if it wasn’t completely replacing current models but Sony knows they’re scamming us so they have to replace the model entirely in order for anyone to actually buy this.
Why would Sony sell a console for $200 less if they aren’t even making a profit on the original version at the original price?
@@Matt-dp7ze They are making a profit now. They weren’t the first two years and that’s normal for consoles. It’s also normal to lower the price with a mid-gen redesign, not increase it.
bro unplugged the fan and uses the clown emoji in the title. this guy is the real clown
r/woosh
It’s slim enough. I’d say it’s slim where it matters: The length and depth. I have a low profile tv stand and when I pull the standard ps5 a few inches from the wall to allow for better ventilation, the game console is right on the edge of my tv stand. My shelves are also not very wide, so the ps5 takes up so much space that there’s no room on the side to dock controllers. My One X is on the shelf below, and the shelf is the exact same size and there’s plenty of room to dock a couple of Xbox controllers next to it. So yeah, this console is now slim enough for me that I can finally fit a controller dock next to it. I don’t think both look better standing vertical but I don’t have a setup that lets me do that without obstructing some of the view of the tv. So, this ps5 should be perfect for my needs
I play my ps5 all day on my day off of work and that never happens
I presume you kept the fan plugged in?
Yeah I think I’m gonna stick with the normal one…
Do u already have one? Cus part of the problem is that the slim replaces the original (so they wont make or sell the OG one anymore) so if u dont have one already, u gotta buy the slim or buy the OG second hand/used.
@@VoteOrDie99 No I don’t, but I do want one though
@@j-dawg859better get it soon, because as soon as the normal ones are sold out the slim will replace them
@@j-dawg859how about watching the video and seeing that he disconnects the fan for it to overheat before coming to any conclusions… 🤦🏿♂️
I picked it up today didn’t open mine yet but will soon can’t wait and great video
So you unplugged the fan and when the ps5 overheated you started crying createing problem that doesn't exist for views this has to be one of the worst ways to gain clicks on the internet ive seen alot of other tec youtubers saying the that this thing didn't overheat when they used it and they're impressed with this thing but you had to create a problem that doesn't exist 💀
@KING-JOSEPH he's probably an xbot that had to give the ps5 a bad review so his pride don't get effected
I just bought a slim today, Its gonna be the new standard. They’re stopping production on the old ones..
So far it’s worked perfectly fine, just as good as my old model. It comes with more storage and is much quieter..
Why is it getting so much hate?
people love to hate
because people are bored and hateful
because they think that it's not as powerful as the old model
It's not overheating, i got mine today, i like it. I like the removable disc drive.
yup you can remove it whenever you want :)
I got mines yesterday and tell me why it crashed when I was finally playing Spider man 2 , it just froze mid scene and then the ps5 turned off .
Sony finally did some things right! I mean you can easily disassemble the console and clean it, or even replace some components. Wow. Just remember the terrible PS3 Super Slim.
The super slim is really easy to disassemble
@@MrJord1994 I'm not so good as you then. It's easy to broke some plastic parts and need some unusual screwdrivers.
@@antonsiberian as did I but I wouldn’t consider it “terrible” and a torx set isn’t unusual.. what is unusual is whatever bit Nintendo uses.
The OG ps5 is way better looking than the slim version period !.
It's like a pound lighter personally I have the 1200 model and hands down like it more then the slim
Yeah there’s really no reason to upgrade