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Did He Really FREE OUR ANCESTORS? The American Civil War - OverSimplified (PT 2 Of Part 1)
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I really like what Atun-Shei said in one of his many videos about the Civil War. He said that we can argue about whether to judge Lincoln by the standards of racism in the 19th Century or the standards of racism today, but the fact that he repeatedly and consistently fought against slavery is beyond dispute.
Just a little backstory before Lincoln. The first Republican candidate for president before Lincoln was a guy named John C. Fremont. He was very anti-slavery and lost the southern Democrat vote because of it. He lost the election and so next election the Republicans nominated Lincoln. Lincoln was propped up to be more moderate but Southern Democrats didn't trust Republicans after Fremont. It's likely Lincoln was more anti-slavery then he let on but didn't want to lose more support in the neutral states until the time was right. That's why his motives looked mixed. It was Fremont who just started freeing slaves with out orders (5:42) from Washington and putting Lincoln in a difficult political situation.
He was playing chess while others were playing checkers he was brilliant cuz he knew if he moved to fast it would backfire on him and he'd loose everything including the opportunity to free the slaves
People forget in those days we went buddy's with the UK they invaded after the revolution so Lincoln in the middle of trying to look strong to the world he was trying to keep the states together as to not give foreign governments a chance to invade
Also I would like to point out that there were slave States still loyal to the Union Is which some of which happened to border Washington DC...... So he had to be extremely very careful because one wrong move and Washington would be lost to the confederates
@@josemadera3138 Which is kind of sad, when you think about it.
@@SuperSaiyanD48 luckily Abraham Lincoln was very calculated and calm with his approach
This was a delicate situation and in hand of a lesser man it would have been the end
Sometimes it takes a little crazy to change the world. John Brown was ahead of his time man, and yea he may have been an insane dude, but he was our insane dude.
@MGTOW Paladin bro they were slaves and likely to die regardless why criticize them for fighting
@MGTOW Paladin dawg you don’t know that where is the proof he did it only for money? We don’t know how Lincoln was feeling and what he’s main purpose was
There are very few individuals throughout history who's actions dramatically impacted the entire world. Lincoln makes it on that list.
Lincoln has importance for american history but for the rest not so much. Most nations outside of america didn't even register the civil war.
@Atheist Biologist lincolns influence isn't. I mean slavery in that form was already on its last legs. America was one of 5 countries that still used and with the ottoman empire the last major one. In the usa it would been redudant 20 years later with the coming of agricultural machines the other countries stopped slavery, because of the european countries. The American influence that effects the rest of the world are from teddy rosvelt and other world war and cold war presidents. In general lincoln would be quite low on the list of most influental people. We are talking about a list that would include people like mao, marx, hitler, stalin, churchil, rosvelt, napoleon, ceasar, augustus, attila, dschingis, bismarck, luther, alexander, ashoka, charlemagne etc. Lincoln is very important for american history, but not for the part that is important for the rest of the world. When we are talking about most influantal people we are talking about people that so drastically changed the world that we still see and feel the echos of their actions, good and bad. Take genghis for example his conquests directly lead to the fall of multiple civilizations, the black death and gun powder reaching europe. He depopulated central asia so severaly that it is to this day sparsely populated. With out him there is a good chance the industralization would have never happened as it was directly tied to the black death. Lincoln on the other hand stopped slavery and centralized the nation. Both would have happened anyway.
@Atheist Biologist without lincoln there would have been no danger to the Union or less, he himself was one of the major reasons for the movement. If lincoln didn't win the probabilities for the civil war drop a lot. The USA might not have suffered the war and slavery would have been obsolete 20 years later. So again not at all as important as you make him out to be.
Americans always think whatever happens in america changes the world. I saw someone say the other day that the Jan 6 capitol riot is one of the worse incidents the world has ever seen in a decade. are you serious? maybe america
@@condorgaming4000 i feel like they are a bit ignorant. I mean what can one expect from a young society that became a super power by staying out as long as possible. They are even ignoring that they are loosing the global trade war and the technological race. Nobody in the west wants them to loose but they are making it really easy for china and russia.
You guys should watch the movie Glory. Great civil war movie.
Glory reaction when? XD
Great fucking movie
Yes, please watch and react to Glory!
I loved that movie we saw it in us history junior year I think
Is that the one with Morgan Freeman and Matthew Broderick? I have a vague memory about watching part of it in social studies. For some reason the line "Ain't no niggas around here but you." Stuck with me.
11:56 apparently that was an actual quote from McClellan, that he didn't lose but merely failed to win
Ugh, that man just makes me mad...running coward that one...
It helps put McClellan into perspective when you understand he was a democrat. All democrats, north and south didn't think slavery should end. McClellan ran for President as a democrat against Lincoln in 1864 on the platform that he would end the war and slavery would continue in the south. Knowing this makes it easy to understand why he refused to take the Army of the Potomac into battle, he didn't want the UNION to win the war.
@@averagejoe845 yeah, Lincoln was too trusting at times in the wrong people...
By the time of the Civil War, muskets had been replaced by rifles in America. Even though some breechloading rifles existed, the muzzle-loading rifle was the standard issue. The rifle had longer range and was more accurate than the musket. The Civil War's brutality was not just the arrival of the rifle as the standard firearm, but the fact that nobody thought to get rid of Napoleonic tactics that never adjust to fit the rifle's range or accuracy.
Abe Lincoln is my favorite person from history. He was giving anti-slavery speeches before he was in politics, he wanted abolition but he also didn’t want to be the president that was in power when the US ended. He barely slept, he barely ate, his son died in the middle of the conflict, he spent almost all of his free time pardoning the executions of teenagers who deserted the army who were only like 13 and shit, and even though I’m an Athiest I love the fact he would walk across the street from the White House to the church several times a week and just sit in there for hours and pray for the wisdom and courage to know what to do and how to reunite the country and free the slaves. He was an amazing man.
Amen to that
This is one of the only people that make me willing to die for his cause
Something a lot of presidents and politicians today don’t even come close to that
The lack of history taught in schools these days, is sickening. All of this was common knowledge 20 years ago... smh
Wym I learned all this in school and I’m in 10 grade
It's crazy how much they don't know.
They teach some of it and not very well from my experience . You learn about it once in sophomore year then you never read it again lmao. Unless you’re interested in history I suppose. It’s easy to forget stuff especially if you’re not into history and took the class just to pass
Your mistaken my friend this was taught in my public school and I graduated high school three years ago. The students in my history class couldn’t care less, they were too busy with today’s pop culture to care about our history. Let’s stop blaming the ignorance of America on the education system, people chose to be stupid.
@@otakuvillain6829 Or, the trouble is bad parenting as well.
That part about the musket loading had me laughing so much.
It’s just a race between two sides to see who can put their musket ball in faster and hoping to god they don’t miss their one shot.
That had me laughing, but they did have the young boys at the back of the line reloading then running the guns up front. They often didn't reload they're own guns.
Side note the Emancipation didn't free any Union slaves (there were still 3 slave states). That wouldn't happen till the 13th amendment.
Well because there were slave States loyal to the Union that some of which happened to be bordering Washington DC. He literally was between a rock and a hard place. It was why he pushed for the 13th amendment so hard because only then and it would actually be true outside of the emancipation making the war about slavery and telling England to stay the heck away.
Lincoln seemed to really hate slavery. His speeches before becoming a presidential nominee seem to point to it. Like the video said, he wanted to do small moves behind the scenes so slavery would die out because he didn’t think he could get the support to just abolish it (Dredd Scott case as testament... dude was a lawyer)..... then the civil war happened and realized at the end, he had his opportunity to do it.
Abolitionists of the day wanted an emancipation proclamation. Lincoln said he believed that would cause a permanent welfare state. He abhorred slavery, but was not an abolitionist because he wanted slaves to have the means to be integrated into society in a meaningful way (educated, skilled, ect) rather than just declaring them free, or else we might have their decedents impoverished, and therefore disproportionately imprisoned and breeding a victim mentality a century later.
...turns out Lincoln knew what he was talking about.
His overall views of race shifted over time but Lincoln was almost always staunchly anti-slavery. He found the practice immoral on all grounds and that it shouldn’t be applied to any human being even in the context of a "superior race".
@@randomusernamedandrew7663 His views shifted? "Almost" always anti-slavery?
Can you point to ANY Lincoln letters or statements in which he was not anti-slavery or pro-equality?
The closest we are aware of it the commonly taken out of context statement that "...If I could end the war without abolishing slavery I would..." or "I'm not going to take your slaves" which were both statements referencing his planned agenda and not regarding his views.
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Way to prove my point while you’re at it...
@@randomusernamedandrew7663 You had a point? Where?
13:13 I researched this incident as part of my masters thesis (and probably mention it too much). This was known as the Trent Affair, and it’s as close as the U.K. ever got to entering the war on the south’s side. Two confederate diplomats, named Mason and Slidell, evaded the union blockade to go to London and convince the government of PM Lord Palmerston to provide further aid to the confederacy (the Palmerston government was already providing the confederacy with uniforms, guns, ammunition, and even entire battleships for the confederate navy). Mason and Slidell boarded the British mail carrier RMS Trent in Havana. Though the US navy had been told to give up the search if they boarded a British ship, the USS San Jacinto, under the command of Captain Wilkes, tracked down the Trent, fired two warning shots, boarded the ship, and arrested Mason and Slidell.
The news of the Trent Affair outraged the British government. Foreign Secretary Lord John Russell (already a staunch confederate sympathizer) pressured Lord Palmerston to seek a declaration of war against the USA. Palmerston sent an additional ten thousand troops to Canada and issued an ultimatum: Mason and Slidell must be released and sent to Britain or there would be war.
President Lincoln disliked Mason and Slidell for being slave owners and, much to the chagrin of Secretary of State William Seward, wanted both men to be hanged. Lincoln brought the matter before his cabinet, and when all the cabinet members said they should give in to the British demands and release the diplomats, Lincoln (to Seward’s significant surprise) agreed. When Seward asked the president why he suddenly changed his mind, Lincoln replied “I found I could not construct an argument that would satisfy my own mind. This told me your ground was the correct one” (further evidence that governance is a lost American art). Mason and Slidell were released from prison and put on a British battleship, and with that, the Trent Affair was over.
What I took away from this is that Lincoln was probably better than most of our current leaders, since he was able to say “I was wrong” and change his views.
Always people and their egos that screw things up, isn't it?
I believe the soldiers on both sides were volunteers, no draft for the civil war. When black men were allowed to fight for the north they definitely were volunteers, but once you signed up your ass belonged to the army until they were done with you. If you guys have never seen the movie Glory it's about some of the first black soldiers to fight in the civil war. Denzel Washington and Morgan Freeman star, great movie and based on true events.
Oh, and BLM vandalized their memorial.
I think you are doing a great disservice to the memories of many Northern men that paid the ultimate sacrifice in the war to end slavery. You said that if you had been drafted to fight in the war you would've looked for somewhere safe to ride out the fighting. That war saw all types of weapons from muzzle loaders to revolvers. Bowie knives to gatlin machine guns. The fighting was horrific. New estimates suggest that 650k to 850k men died on battlefields during the war. I agree, slavery never should have happened and something definitely needed to be done about it, but most of the men who died trying to end slavery never came close to owning a slave. The same could be said about most of the men who died defending slavery. You are certainly allowed to have your opinion, but these men are deserving of our gratitude and we should honor the bravery that they displayed standing up to evil. We can't have it both ways. If the descendants of slaves who are living today want to claim to be affected by slavery that occurred over 100 years before they were ever born, then it seems logical to me that they owe a debt of gratitude to the men that died ending it.
I don't think that they were being disrespectful. I think they were being honest. Yeah, bravery is good, but some are just not built that way. Some people choose not to fight. It sucks to some in some situations, but you can't change it. Think you might need a little educating yourself. No one claims to be affected by slavery. Descendants are affected by the slow process of going from slavery to true equality. You see the descendants of the slave owners will only give little pieces at a time. It is those people who are still hanging on and slowing the process.
@@charlottedrolet9000my comment was addressing that they don't think credit for fighting slavery was deserved because they think slavery was an injustice that should have never been. While this is certainly true of slavery, this should not take anything away from the men who died seeking to end slavery.
@@charlottedrolet9000 Also, I disagree with your assertion that no one claims to be affected by slavery. If that is not the injury, then why demand reparations? It makes zero sense to say we are not affected by slavery but we feel we deserve reparations.
Hold up a moment. Times have changed and so have people. Our faith in Authority isn't what it was and those in Authority were incompetent. Simply put we wouldn't do war like that now. We'd get smart people who know better than to stand like ducks in a row in front of bullets. That's all they're saying.
@@kellyfehr3719 maybe. I think we are addressing different things.
Remember this is over simplified don't fall into that trap of thinking things were actually simple.
For perspective on the rifles used, I recommend ya'll check out the movie Glory. There is one particular scene in which they depict the difficulty of reloading those damn things under fire. Hell the whole movie hits home and should should be required viewing in high school. Edit: Yes, African Americans did fight in the American Civil War. Movie tells the tale of the 54th Massachusetts Infantry Regiment.
I feel what you're saying about not knowing Lincoln's motives, but if y'all read up on his writings and speeches there's no doubt. He HATED slavery.
People gave there lives trying to change there country for the better.
People: well we shouldn't commend them for doing what there supposed to do....
@Fitzroy Distant ok so we should ignore the good and only focus on the bad? Keep in mind it was your ancestors that sold the slaves to them
@Fitzroy Distant Northern men that gave their lives to end slavery probably didn't ever own slaves. I agree slavery was an evil that should have never been and every American should have demanded its end, That in no way takes away from the sacrifice these men gave. The fact that one of the hosts of this channel stated he would have avoided the battles that were being fought to end slavery because they were so frightening. All the more reason to give these men credit for standing up to what he would not, though it benefit him directly.
@@lordcommissar7813 it was also your ancestors that took my ancestors land so
@@NoName-gc8ty whitch ones Mexicans or indians?
@@lordcommissar7813 Cherokee aka Indians
Im honestly happy to see this reaction. To know that people are seeking out truth and actually finding it this way. It is so important to shed light on the false narratives of racism and hatred spread by immoral politicians to divide us as a country. Please keep keep seeking and sharing
Yeah, I've seen some morons trying to twist it to "SEE, THE DEMS ARE THA REAL RACISTS!!" as if the party switch never happened and the South is full of solid blue states, lol
@@grantsampson776 No party switched happened. Can you point to some facts that state otherwise.
@@loyalpatriot9747 Yes..white Republicans in the South still rep the Confederate flag lmao 🤦🏻♂️
2021 and people are still trying to make the Republican-run government buildings take down that flag in some states. It’s a joke.
@@seanmatthewking So you base your entire notion of a supposed "party switch" based on the fact that you're offended by a flag? You're struggling aren't you. I feel bad for you. And that flag has been removed in several dozen states, to include the one I live in.. BY A REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR, Nikki Haley with a REPUBLICAN HOUSE AND A REPUBLICAN SENATE. Not slim majorities either.
I suppose you believe that Big Government is good and that the government is responsible for the your health and living expenses. The truth is one party wants the government to have more control over the citizens, and the other is more for your individual rights and responsibility. Not saying all are cause there are Republicans that can go take a long leap of a short bridge. But not all. I can count the Dems I trust, and there are some, with one hand. Almost just 1 finger. Not that finger silly.
Don't bother replying because you'll I won't read it. Spend the time with your family and friends instead. You may not have enough of an open mind to see that the wool has been pulled over your eyes. Check out www.walkawaycampaign.com/ It might help.
Most politicians do things for political reasons, at least in part. I'd rather have politicians doing good things while also having political motives than doing bad things for political motives. Lincoln wasn't perfect, but he was easily one of the best presidents we have ever had.
i just wish america got its act together so it can justify pressuring china and russia about civil and human rights cause like u know how there so many jokes bout america and hypocrisy and how it pretending to be free and just nation when it often isnt and its true, so i just kinda wish that us worked it out in itself cause i believe it has the capacity to do so. Course i might be asking too much for here but anything might be
See you guys this summer when they finish part 2!
They said Abe knew slavery was a moral evil and wanted to help he just needed a push to have the courage to do so
Even when you're doing something you're supposed to do, you gotta respect that they did it when they have to risk their life against their own society to do it.
As far as Lincoln, I'm Canadian though so I don't know shit about the specifics lol
Northern men that gave their lives to end slavery probably didn't ever own slaves. I agree slavery was an evil that should have never been and every American should have demanded its end, That in no way takes away from the sacrifice these men gave. The fact that one of the hosts of this channel stated he would have avoided the battles that were being fought to end slavery because they were so frightening. All the more reason to give these men credit for standing up to what he would not, though it benefit him directly.
McClellan really did say, “I didn’t lose I merely failed to win.”
People can debate all day what Lincoln's intentions were and what fueled his cautious approach to wanting to end slavery, but the fact of the matter is he got the job done which might not have worked if he didn't take the cautious approach. Gotta remember that a lot of these people in the country were born and raised from childhood to believe that slavery(and racism) was OK both morally and legally, so to go against the masses trying to change people's way of thinking without yet having any weight to his name(being a brand new president without having any battle victories yet) could have lost him some support before the war even got started.
All debates aside, at least Lincoln never owned any slaves in his life, so that makes him more legit in my eyes. I wouldn't be able to take him as serious if he was out there doing/saying all of this if he had 2 slaves back at his crib. So I respect him as one of the greatest US presidents. He did the right thing at the end of the day, won the war(and thank god he did, I couldn't imagine if the confederates won), and all while being a seemingly respectable human being overall in a time where there were a lot of fucked up people. Not to mention he sacrificed his life doing it in the end, murdered in a theater with his family by someone who despised him for freeing slaves.
Also gotta a shout out and pay some respects for the north soldiers, both black and white, who put their heart and soul into this war because they wanted to end slavery. Obviously not all white soldiers cared much about the slavery aspect, but some truly did and sacrificed their life for the cause. Mad respect to those dudes, they were real ones growing up in a fucked up time period. They''re forgotten heroes who helped change history.
As a while guy I'm glad they won so I could have the privilege of growing up in a diverse neighborhood with more black friends than white, and we treated each other like family and didn't see our different skin color as a barrier between us... it just didn't matter to us at all. Now if only all people could just stop focusing about minor differences like skin color and love each other and stop hating and killing each other. I pray some day in the near future, each new generation of kids grows up around kids of other races more learning that we're all not that different, and racism dies out more and more until there's barely any racists left.
/longassrant
There were so many horrible injuries during the Civil War that the standard of male beauty was changed for decades afterward.
Sometimes the best history is simple history. The same political party that's throwing accusations of racism to everyone that looks at them the wrong way is the same party that seceded from the union and started the civil war. That's oversimplified history. Good work bros. Keep it up.
Just remember: Men were enlisted to fight in the war. If it was not for their courage and their personal sacrifices, the North would have lost the war and slavery would have continued in the South. Would you really be able to walk away from the war effort knowing that the lives and freedom of so many depended in no small part on you?
So why did the men join the army in the South? Men always join the army, no matter what the cause, it seems.
its crazy that they don't know any of this stuff maybe if people were taught history the right way we would stop making mistakes of the past
"Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat the past"(George Santayana)
That’s my complaint in the end
Some did have muskets, but the state of the art at the time was a powder cartidge and ball.
Eh, no, state of the art was lever-action rifles that could fire almost as many aimed shots per minute as a modern semi-automatic. Look up the Kalthoff Repeater. Much too expensive for general issue, though.
The crazy thing was, they were using military tactics that revolved around muskets that were only accurate to 50 yards, but using rifles that were accurate to 300-40p yards, so it led to insane carnage?
The civil war is an example of technology out pacing military tactics. They had rifled barrels, and a bullet named mini balls. These allowed more accurate firearms 100- 150 yards. Previously the armies used muskets, which were only accurate to 50 yards for most soldiers. It became a blood bath.
It's called "loading in nine times" the nine steps to loading your musket.
"Glory" is a great movie about the Civil War and the all-Black Massachusetts 54th. Worth a watch.
Confederates were mostly armed with muskets from the revolutionary War while the union was starting to use breach loading rifles
Ralph Harris has a hilarious bit about street gangs fighting with muskets and it went exactly like you described it 🤣🤣🤣
Some time the things you are suppose to do are the hardest.....breaking the wheel is hard....Lincoln did what no one else would..
i learn more history from Oversimplified then I ever did in school, in school you're told from the start the war was over slavery and not preserving the union, abe is held up like some kinda god. later on fredrick douglas had some disagreements with lincoln, i forget why though.
Yes back in those days, after the battle, the winners would sometimes bayonet the bodies to make sure they were dead.
I saw both parts. You did a great show. Shout out to All the republican men and women who fought and died for freedom for all in America. Peace.
The Dems are still angry about this.
You’re a moron 🤦🏻♂️
The Republicans of the day fly the Confederate flag in the South.
To try to give props to the modern party for something people did 160 years ago is such a joke.
"Do they poke the dead bodies?"
As in do they stab with the bayonets to make sure they are dead? To the best of my military history knowledge, American armies (including the Confederacy) have never done that for it is considered against the law of war to desecrate bodies or outright murder defenseless Soldiers on the battlefield.
I 100% agree about not giving credit when it should have been done to begin with. However, as you mentioned if Lincoln did not take that stand it’s not clear how long it would take for this to happen.
Definitely want to see you guys react to part 2!
I grew up around Manassas and Bull Run and just walking around fields and woods, you can still find buckshots and artifacts from the war.
Combat during the Civil War was very brutal. Getting wounded was basically a death sentence due largely due to the fact that things like germ theory had yet to become a thing. Plus the bullets used by both sides usually shattered bones and ripped flesh apart which met that if you were shot in a limb, it had to be amputated. Anesthetics were not widely used and medical instruments were not sanitized and used on multiple patients with no cleaning. So if you needed to have say your leg amputated, you were fully conscious while a surgeon was sawing off your leg with a dirty saw. Plus disease was rife in the camps on both sides and just as many people dies from disease and infections as they did in combat.
They had rifles in the Civil War!! The American Revolution was muskets.
Do watch part 2, because this is a really important for now. It's hard to understand where we are at now with race relations without understanding the civil war, reconstruction, and it's aftermath.
If you want to know more about John Brown, there's a series called The Good Lord Bird that's all about him and the realities of the time.
To answer your question about deserters, Lincoln actually pardoned tons of people that bailed. They would reenlist alot of the time too. Some people just needed to get any, other fit shakes back in by my etc.
Please react to part 2, I’m so excited! ❤️❤️❤️
Watch the movie "Glory". Denzel Washington won an Oscar for best supporting actor. It will show you how that war was fought.
They had the rifled musket. Rifling is what the spiraled grooves in the barrel are called. They make the bullet spin and that makes it far more accurate than the older style musket. The technology far outpaced the tactics and it’s why there were so many casualties.
WHAT WE LEARN IN AMERICAN SCHOOLS IS WHAT THEY WANT US TO KNOW OR BELIVE. NOT NECESSARILY WHAT REALLY HAPPENED. ITS FUCKING SAD.
Remember, freedom is not free you have to earn it. Lincoln didn't have to end slavery he could've just rolled with the south, but he didn't, he chose not to. Y'all sleeping on my man Lincoln. Lol.
The used .58 caliber black powder muzzle-loading rifled muskets. They were a pain to load, but if you got hit by a .58 caliber bullet, your body was going to be blown apart.
The main purpose of bayonets was for charging the enemy after you ran out of ammo or defending in close quarters combat. I'm pretty sure it went against the unspoken rules of war to bayonet bodies to see if they where still alive. Any soldiers found wounded regardless of side where usually brought to field hospitals.
Between Abraham Lincoln and Ulysses S. Grant, those two men directly contributed to freeing more enslaved people than ANY TWO MEN IN HUMAN HISTORY. You have to go back to Moses and Spartacus to even come close, and even then Lincoln and Grant beat them by a wide margin.
Which is why it was such a tragedy that statues of both Lincoln and Grant were torn or removed down during the BLM protests. People acted in absolute ignorance, leading to monuments to these two heroes being vandalized, torn down, and removed.
It was mostly worthless statues of confederates that were put up when the fight against segregation was going on so still a net positive, lol.
Neither of them would have given a shit anyways.
@@grantsampson776
Discounting and justifying the destruction of the good along with the bad, when patience and prudence would have yielded security for the good while the bad was destroyed, is self-righteous and stupid.
As for the feelings of Grant and Lincoln on the matter of destroying public monuments without due process or legal sanction, no one can say with certainty what their thoughts would have been, but given their propensity for law and order, as evidenced by their insistence that the Union is perpetual, I suspect you're wrong.
That's why I consider BLM a terrorist group.
@@MsAngelique BLM: Hey, we're gonna tear down these cheaply made statues glorifying people that fought for slavery that were put up during the fight against segregation to try put "the blacks" back in their place because we don't want that shit in our public parks.
Moron: TErRoriSm!!!!
@@grantsampson776 Their terrorism is a function of their Marxism in conjunction with their vandalism, not their vandalism alone, which is merely criminal.
"I don't really like to give credit for ish that's supposed to be done" FACTS!!!!
Can you also agree that the Northern men that gave their lives to end slavery probably didn't ever own slaves. I agree slavery was an evil that should have never been and every American should have demanded its end, That in no way takes away from the sacrifice these men gave. The fact that one of the hosts of this channel stated he would have avoided the battles that were being fought to end slavery because they were so frightening. All the more reason to give these men credit for standing up to what he would not, though it benefit him directly.
Blacks are free men and women in the United States. If you can't recognize that then leave the country. We'd be better off without idiots like you.
"I don't like to give credit to things that's supposed to be done". Do you understand that slavery had been the way of the world for thousands and thousands of years? It was just how the world worked. And not just America. Everywhere. Every group of people had been enslaved. Ending slavery was actually the new, radical idea. It took a lot of guts to take the steps to actually end slavery as an institution. While slavery was still going on all around the world, America was fighting a war against it's own people to end it. And they paid for it in blood. I'm not sure you fully appreciate what it took to make it happen.
Northern men that gave their lives to end slavery probably didn't ever own slaves. I agree slavery was an evil that should have never been and every American should have demanded its end, That in no way takes away from the sacrifice these men gave. The fact that one of the hosts of this channel stated he would have avoided the battles that were being fought to end slavery because they were so frightening. All the more reason to give these men credit for standing up to what he would not, though it benefit him directly.
They weren’t treating you like your property they were treating people who were alive back then like property
Henry rifles and breach loaders didn't come out until the end of the war. For the bulk of the war they were using different variations of muskets from domestic gun makers and European.
I’ve been reading the autobiography of Fredrick Douglas. Politics hasn’t changed much since his day.
The American civil war is considered to the first war to use modern warfare. Technology developed incredibly fast. For example, ships were beginning to include metal plates on their designs. This made them very difficult to damage or sink with regular cannon fire, as ammunition and cannonballs either logged into the plates without damaging the ship or just bounced off.
Bullets were also advanced as well. A new type of bullet called the minie ball, was introduced shortly after the start of the war. They were small spherical bullets that could go through things and for further distance than that of other bullets at the time. And they caused WAAAY more damage to the human body. Let’s just say we know a lot the human body Thanks largely in part to this bullet. There are journals from nurses and surgeons on both sides that could be freaking horror stories.The minie ball was so coveted by the north and south, that manufacturers had trouble keeping with the demand on both sides. It also rendered a war tataic that Americans used pointless, and thus attributed to a high death count. The trick was to hide by trees to avoid bullets and arrows. It was an effective tactic that the Native Americans used that was then rendered useless by the minie ball.
The American Civil War historically is a pretty crazy war because most soldiers were outfitted with blackpowder muskets and bayonets, but they did have some firearms that were modernized and could fire multiple rounds. By the end of the war they had mortars, simple missiles, armored ships and machine guns.
Back during the civil war they enlisted and drafted people from the same villages and towns...So you either stood your ground on the battle line or lived the rest of your life shunned as a coward because everyone in your unit knew who you were because they were your neighbors.
The North discovering Lee's battle plans for the first invasion of the north convinces me there's a time agency correcting time line mistakes.
If you REALLY want to UNDERSTAND the Civil War and what people thought at the time of the war, watch Ken Barns: The Civil War. Ken took diaries, letters, official documents and maps of the time of the Civil War. He got Noted Historians to sit down and talk about the Civil War and he got movies stars and people with wonderful voices to do the reading of the diaries, letters etc. It's an award winning documentary flim and it's worth watching.
These fucking guys always look pissed off watching videos , cheer up a lil , crack a damn smile
abraham lincoln did not care for us. it wasnt about freeing us, it was about the economy and money
That's not true, Lincoln hated slavery wholeheartedly. He simply aknowleged that it would be difficult to do in one move.
@@EMoney0527 yea ok buddy
Lincoln ultimately viewed slavery as a moral wrong and sought to end it. He’s was personally against slavery before the civil war, but his primary goal was to preserve the union.
To untangle his beliefs on race would be a complicated matter. He was a politician appealing to white voters, and if he declared blacks were fundamentally the equals of whites and that an interracial society was desirable, he might never have been elected.
Beyond that he was a product of the time to some degree.
@@seanmatthewking no white person wanted slavery to end becuase it was wrong..it was about economics...simple.
It was from the movie Goodfellas....
7:33 it was actually the newspapers who called Grant this, not Grant himself.
Back then it was better to wound your enemy than kill.A wounded soldier takes an inordinate amount of people to care for them.All the people it took to carry,operate,feed and house them were people who weren't fighting.Plus because of infection, people would eventually die.Being slower and more painful,it was demoralizing as well as seeing the survivors missing limbs.On top of that they wouldn't bayonet wounded because people of the time saw each other more as gentlemen and fought by a code
15:10 New York Draft Riots (foreshadowing)
Depicted in the movie "Gangs of New York"
If Lee had agreed to lead the Union Army instead, war probably would've been over in less than a year. Lincoln had shit for military leaders.
650,000 Americans died in the Civil War...it is the deadliest war in American history until this day...
Y'all's banter about muskets had me rollin'
Imagine all your friends marching off. Would you still leave and just hope they don'T all fucking die?
React to Malcolm X on "White Liberals." Also "Black Liberals," by Malcolm X
@@mwwq1 I did not say you to protest. I said react to it.
@@pymrytzleonarda8459 right, hang on I'll delete it. Sorry that was inappropriate of me.
Great great grandpa fought for the north on the front lines💪
Little known fact - The Emancipation Proclomation only granted freedom to slaves who were in the Confederate states. ( Not the border states - Md, Kentucky, Mo. and Wash, D,C, )
Uk: Hey come slave states to my land I’m gonna give you my ships
Ottoman: touch my water or soil once I’m blowing you up
18:42 it is at this moment that I subscribed
15:00 I don't know if it's specifically reported that they would bayonet bodies on the battlefield to make sure that they were dead, because there were still "rules" of how wounded soldiers were supposed to be treated by both sides, even though it was before the Geneva Convention. But it does sound like something that would be a good idea, especially if you're advancing past the point where fallen enemies are laying, because you don't want them to pop back up behind you once you move by them.
The idea of not having slaves of any race was a New concept in that time period. Slavery was the norm for the entire world. Until the enlightenment age which questioned that normality.
Please keep this up, my guys!
yes, def watch movie “Glory” with denzel , tru story of first black regiment in union army.. very powerful
During the Civil War, WWI, and WWII, soldiers attacking a position often had bayonets fixed and so they might poke or prod an enemy soldier lying on the ground if he didn’t look too messed up and then bayonet him if he reacted. A good proportion of the dead would be obvious. The standard mini-ball bullet was a .58 caliber so it usually left a messy hole when it hit and cannon-shot was fused for air-burst to send jagged fragments of steel in every direction. A soldier struck by pieces from an artillery shell might be torn apart and it would be apparent that he was dead or soon would be.
Just lying down and pretending to be dead was still quite risky. You could be trampled by horses, the battle could change and you are once again on ground that is being shelled and ripped by small arms fire. Dry areas sometimes caught fire and burned wounded men.
It wasn’t a very pleasant experience and there weren’t many ways to escape it. Running away might get you a bullet in the back.
Yep, they used to bayonet enemies suspected of just playing dead. We still check; but now it involves a poke in the eyes, or a boot to the balls.
You need to watch the movie Lincoln. Really details the importance of the 13th Amendment.
12:11 a battle not mentioned here is the battle between the confederate ironclad ship Virginia (commonly called by its former name the Merrimack), which attacked vulnerable union ships and was sent to attack Washington, agains the union ironclad Monitor, (sent to stop the Merrimack from reaching Washington). Before, the Merrimack on fought wooden sides battleships, which it commonly sunk. Now, for the first time, two iron clad ships would fight each other. In the end, neither ship was able to damage the other, so the battle ended in a draw (though since the Merrimack never got to Washington, I guess it’s technically a union victory). While the battle is today commonly thought of almost as a joke, it had a pretty big effect on history. In London, when the leaders of the British Royal Navy, the largest navy on earth at the time, learn of the battle between the monitor and the Merrimack, they immediately cancelled all their orders for constructing wooden sides battleships; they realized that the age of wooden war ships, which mankind had experienced for thousands of years, had finally ended.
Other similar inventions from the civil war include primitive submarines (crank-powered vessels used by the confederates to ram at high speeds into the sides of union ships) and the first United States Air Force (three hot air balloons used to spy on confederate troops).
As with anything in History this is open for interpretation. We know a few things. At the outset of the war up Until the summer of 1862 Lincoln insisted the war was about preserving the union, at some point He begins to explore the option of emancipation. Now this is where events get hairy. Lincolns position on slavery had always been one of containment, i.e dont let it expand and it will die of natural causes (which was going to happen anyway due to the destructive nature of cotton to the soil). However there strong evidence that emancipation in Lincoln's mind was a war measure. Lincoln knew that he could weaken the confederate army due to its dependence on slave labor, He also made it clear that slaves in the slave states that remained loyal (deleware, Maryland, Kentucky, Missouri) were not covered under the EP. For some reason we reached a point where the issue of civil war history devolved into a dichotomy of knuckle dragging foaming at the mouth racists in the south Vs. Pious moral crusaders from the north. The reality is there was more overlap than what the average citizen knows. few know that the EP was one of if not the most unpopular acts of Lincoln's presidency, Entire regiments deserted over it because they did not want to die to free slaves. In the south slave owners were exempted from service (up to a point). which left the fighting to poor whites that didn't care about slavery one way or the other, some saw the north as invaders but a lot were also conscripted. My suggestion, get your civil war history from actual civil war historians not journalists....history requires a bit of objectivity and well journalists aren't capable of this anymore.
So, common practice wasn't to kill the wounded after a battle. Typically, the winner would root around to gather ALL the wounded, taking prisoner the enemies, and trying to save their own.
@9:58,
This was the first war where balloon scouting was used, which helped navigate at night, but it wasn't used until the late stages of the war.
@14:50,
In the Eastern theater of the War, political propaganda was really important so officers didn't let their troops take houses too often, but in the Western theater of the War, soldiers and "partisans" did that all of the time. In parts of Appalachia, soldiers and partisans alike took civilian houses for cover.
They were muzzle loaders but not muskets
Pretty much how it was...granted more so in the revolution when muskets were maybe 70 yards effective lol
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The draft came later. By the time of Antietam everybody were volunters. Most men in your regiment were neighbours from your home town. You would let your family down if you deserted. Many of those who actually did (sometimes to take care of problems back home) later came back and rejoined their units without significant punishment.
Doing the right thing can be easy and it can be hard. Being polite is easy. Telling somebody they dropped their wallet is easy. Running into a house to save a child is hard. It is also easy to remind people they are doing the right thing and to thank them for it.
Oh, indeed they had mainly muskets, and some small pistols. Watch "Glory" to get a good idea on how one needed to be trained to load one quickly.