The Rise of Oswald Mosley & British Fascism 1932-34
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The video covers the rise of Oswald Mosley and the British Union of Fascists between the years 1932 and 1934, discussing the various fascist and National Socialist competitors, the Communist 'reds', Mosley's views, and the Olympia rally on 7 June 1934.
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History isn’t as boring as some people think, and my goal is to get people talking about it. I also want to dispel the myths and distortions that ruin our perception of the past by asking a simple question - “But is this really the case?”. I have a 2:1 Degree in History and a passion for early 20th Century conflicts (mainly WW2). I’m therefore approaching this like I would an academic essay. Lots of sources, quotes, references and so on. Only the truth will do.
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While thoroughly annoyed at Google/YT censorship of history, I do admire how well TIK calls it out and how ridiculous it is.
Do they really monitor for "drugs" on the sound track, and not the word in visuals?
You see scratch censor-ship?
Strongly recommend uploading your entire catalogue to an Odysee & Rumble account
YT is on the warpath again
Kind of an odd thing to post when his opening to the video is him loudly proclaiming his support for one element of that censorship and insulting anyone who disagrees.
When you get right down to it TIK is the same as the people he complains about (which is true for most people, I suppose).
@@goodmaro Yes. DO you know the autocaption system? The autocaptions get run through a word matching algorithm looking for specific key words to limit or fully delete videos based on it. A nice example is a channel run by an ex fighter pilot that I watch, he was talking about Chuck Yeager and the auto caption system thought he had said the hard R word and so he had to get the video "manually reviewed" 4 times through a personal youtube contact he had before it finally got fixed because a reviewer actually watched the video finally.
Ironic how the Facist was the only man in Britain who was anti-war and arguing against another world war
And uniting English people in defense of England. Huh.
Being anti war means supporting nazi Germany who was engaging in war?
Have a good day who ever is reading this.
You too dear sir!
Thanks bro
No you!
hmmm.....
Thank you good sir
💀k ty u 2
"When they start reading the Guardian, they're too far gone." 😂😂😂
@J Stevinik I gave up reading news papers years ago, if they're not controlled by the establishment, they're controlled by the NGO's
They’re both awful, worthless press publications that aren’t fit to wipe your arse with.
Better the "off guardian" ? 🤣🤣
It's funny you have to give all these warnings that you're not a fascist yet if you talk about communism everyone's like hey it's awesome
Yeah there's a double standard. But considering I'm talking about Mosley and the Jews towards the middle of the video, I think the statement that I'm not a racist or a fascist is necessary, especially when my critics are looking for any excuse to call me these names.
@@TheImperatorKnight agreed Also keep up the great content bro
Vaush: communism is cool, Mao did nothing wrong.
Censors: cool.
Tik: the history books aren't entirely accurate, fascism, Nazism and communism are all derived from socialism.
Censors: REEEEEEE!!!! FASCIST!!!!!
@@TheImperatorKnight You touch on sensitive topics, sure, but I've never heard you say, "Jews and minorities are bad"
@@soulknife20 The history of money, banking, credit, trade and capitalism, combined with the cumulative proficiency and assets earned from concurrent generations of a people specializing in any endeavor, suggests a logical explanation to me. Jews are very competitive and strong in the areas of economics and finance.
More so than most fields, this yields much power. So for those who crave power and don’t wish to compete? I believe it’s why they’ve been an eternal scapegoat, demonized, shunned and persecuted. It’s just a theory.
Also, the tribal tendency of people often leads us to oversimplify. We prefer the binary approach of assigning individuals (even ourselves) polar status:
Good or bad
Friend or foe
Smart or stupid
Right or wrong
Innocent or guilty
Of course, accountability is deserved for individual behaviors, by individuals, one at a time. We learn what to expect from patterns of behavior, but remaining judicious in the moment is awfully challenging. There’s the great temptation for loyalty and efficiency, both being very important.
Note: accountability isn’t deserved for genetics but for that which involves choice
🤦🏻♂️ …aaand I made a speech
😬🤐
British Union of Fascists, British United Fascists... All this sounds like a Monty Python sketch
The United Unity Party stands as one, united against the divisive menace that is division in all facets of life, not including mathematics however.
It really does sound like some kind of skit, like one where they would start by proudly announcing all their views, and end up accidentally going in some kind of circular fallacy and end up with a completely different view🤣
@@johnseppethe2nd2 Ironically, Unity (Mitford) was the name of Diana Moseley's sister and a big fan of AH.
Or a PG Wodehouse novel? Perhaps a mashup: Welease Woderick Spode.
TIK is that one channel that combines historical events with actual, critical thinking (peeking outside the box just in the right amounts). It does not matter that much whether we are treated to another Stalingrad episode or another video, be it the social background and/or the lead-up to WWII, we invariably receive a thought-provoking material inviting us to think for ourselves and to evaluate that which has already happened with the benefit of the hindsight. Prolific work, kind sir, please, do continue to provide in the times to come. I can only wish there were more channels like yours in the depths of the interwebs.
I don't think that forcing people to a western/american based geopolitical opinion is inviting us to think for ourselves. I also don't think that forcing me to not like only women - (human heterosexual females) with blue eyes and blond hair is inviting to think for myself. It is forcing other peoples opinion on me. Other peoples who are racists and who spread racism against white people. It is my taste and my choice that I like women with blue eyes and blonde hair who are white skin and heterosexual and European. European Culture. And nobody no american will force me to change my taste.
@Truth Will Out. No one is forcing you to not have sexual preferences, outside the wokest of woke. I sympathize with the fear, to a degree though. We aren't there though. Even as bad as things have gotten. Also, TIK isn't "forcing" you into any "western" worldview. You just don't like the logic that arises from the facts he presents. Logic that leads people out of collectivist ideologies. Which I think you quite obviously subscribe to, with you're comments and username. Stop being an actual NAZI. Come back to reality and reason, where wokism and NAZISM are both laughed at.
@@truthwillout4398 What do you mean?
@Syd McCreath Who is he talking to?
@Syd McCreath Is he saying tik is forcing people to view things from a Western geopolitical perspective?
I keep saying it across your most recent videos but I'm absolutely loving these sorts of videos, off the beaten path and not stuff that is usually covered, but is very interesting! Keep it up TIK!
All the different Fascist groups in England hating each other has real "Judean People's Front vs. People's Front of Judea" vibes.
SPLITTERS!
Maybe that’s the origin of the joke. Political parties agreeing on fundamentals, but disagreeing on minutia
Not much different then how the left fractions hated and fought each other.
Or the religious ones in different faiths.
@Rudolf Hillers Well back in antiquity most of the time there existed two different Hebrew or Jewish nations side by side. Not to forget the Samaritans, which were already marginalized when Christ lived.
@@lewisrobinson675 I remember John Cleese saying that the inspiration for that joke was the Labour Party.
An outstanding vid, Lewis. As an American (Wisconsin), I was taught that Mosley was a Fascist, UK crazy person. Thanks for the info in this and the other Mosley vids. I never realized he migrated from UK party to party in search of an ideological home. An analysis well done!
You were taught no such thing.
@@generaljackripper666 how the f*ck would you know?!
A video on George Lincoln Rockwell, the founder of the American Nazi Party and how that even caught on here in the US would be interesting.
Dont want this politically questionable britbong trying to talk shit about them, GLR, Charles Lindburgh, Huey Long, etc were all right. Sick of him resisting the call of national socialism / fascism. Guy seems to be scared of something.
@Syd McCreath reddit spacing
@@josephanderson8655 He's a ex-socialist who understands how much a failure the ideology is, and you are a slave to it. Maybe you should actually listen to him once in a while.
@@ArgentWolf95 ah so he used to be a commie and now thinks thats all socialism
@@josephanderson8655 National Socialism is just as much a failure, you lot blame Jews on everything based off of nonsense and convenient half-truths.
Also the 'woke ideology' causing a lot of the stuff, that's got some of your ideas in it too.
Im quite fond of listening to your videos while working. Thank you for the video
Obviously a civil servant, my job takes up most of my concentration.
@@andrewpease3688 freelance illustrator actually. The civil servants I know watch memes during work hours instead
@@andrewpease3688 I have mild autism. If I don't seclude myself from the world with a headphone and some music or a good lifestream I'd never get anything done. I'd be constantly distracted by my co-workers and their conversations. Luckily my boss knows this and has given his approval.
@@chaptermasterpedrokantor1623 Got that tee-shirt! Hell is other people.
Excellent video. I think it is highly important that these concepts reach a large audience. The people who dutifully watch these videos on the politics of that era, including myself, are given the ability to see the rhymes of history playing out today.
Wow! Things have not really changed that much since the 1930’s have they?
Have you seen the shithole that is the UK?
A lot changed
Thanks TIK, don't recall this being taught in British history! 🙏🙏
Inbuilt bias...
@@bigmouthstrikesagain4056 Quite possibly, but then again, there's only so much history you can put in a syllabus, or even known about/released at a particular point in time
That's why I'm here to learn.
@@eze8970 As usually there is no absolut good and evil, just relative views.
More importantly, what does that tell us about today? Will we rewrite history again or ist it rewritten currently?
@@sniperman3110 Yes to no good or evil, but there will be a view on what is advantageous or disadvantageous behaviour, for individuals, societies & mankind as a whole.
History is always being rewritten, in the context of people alive at the time.
@@eze8970 I do not think of the people, but of the ruling class. Sometimes the will of the people and of the ruling class just coincide.
Interesting fact. Many Suffragettes ended up in Moselys BUF.
Which modern feminists hate when you bring up that fact.
@@gimzod76 A lot of women advocating for voting rights here in the US wanted them for White Women, but that's it. Fun times
@@jstevinik3261 Ghey
@@soulknife20
There was a feminist Holiness woman preacher in 1920's U.S., Alma White who actively promoted and praised the KKK and her Pillar Of Fire church regularly hosted Klan events.
Now there's a movement Tik could do a video on.
Pro imperialist, pro war , white feather distrutng ex suffragette bombers who never supported universal suffrage but only votes for women who owned property or held a degree, votes for "Ladies" rather than women as the wits said at the time.
A very upper and middle class movement that history has been strangely kind to considering the rather random bombing campaign.
The WSPU may have put the cause of women's suffrage back 5 or 6 years according to Asquith in a letter to Millicent Fawcett.
When political correctness won't let you acknowledge human biology for fear of getting canceled
Bet you are so fascist that you believe that men can't get pregnant and women can't have female cocks
@@dogwhistle8836 How did you know?
@@SonofTiamat because only fascists won't suck his girlfriends dick lol
Like what do you mean?
@@soulknife20 Race is inherently scientific. Yes, racism is bad, and race is a quick, short, dumb way to sum up a combination of social, historical, and genetic factors, but saying that race isn't supported by science is like saying that evolution has never been proven. Race is as real as the Hapsburg chin.
Idk, race seems pretty real to me.
Yeah & the earth seems flat from our perspective but it isn't. You should trust science instead of your limited perspective, BTW I know God exists & am still gay so I dont know what tf that antigay symbol is.
It is definitely real when you study iq averages of all the continents
@@TruthSpeaker. TRUST THE HECKIN SCIENCE
@@TruthSpeaker. "trust" science
Honestly, while I disagree with his views on most issues, Oswald Mosley was almost certainly a good man. He was honest, well-intentioned, and very smart. Mosley was essentially pushed into a situation where he was then painted as the villain (despite not really doing anything wrong, regardless of whether you agree with his views). In contrast, Hitler and Mussolini engaged in objective wrongdoing and chose the path of evil on their own accord. Maybe someday history will remember Mosley more kindly than it does now.
Loving the content. As a history student, I find your usage of sources and, as you say, "thinking critically" and asking the question "but is this really the case?" when approaching any source, regardless of whom wrote it or what side or perspective they come from is really inspiring to me. It has been incredibly helpful in improving the way I approach history and the sources I derive it from. Thanks again, and keep up the amazing work!
You don't have to stop at history but you can if you want to.
@@xprincexofxsavagesx Of course but I specifically mean studying history and the usage of primary and secondary sources in this regard, especially while doing research and whatnot. While I never not practiced critical thinking, TIK's content and highly critical approach inspires me to sharpen and/or improve my skills
Agreed
@@leslie62 And, don't forget to always question the sources as well! To what degree can we trust the 'diary' of a Nazi general, communist leader or a democratic leader for that matter?
On any political issues, it's vital to check secondary sources for bias. Mosley generally gets an unfair rap. I think this vid is genuinely trying to give a fairer and truer balance.
Really enjoying your series of videos covering Mosley and British Fascism. I admit I'd only ever followed the "official" lines regarding Mosley but your videos have opened my eyes to a lot more information (and reading) that I'll now have to do. Many thanks.
Rarely is history black and white...more shades of grey
No doubt Mosley had the charisma to draw in support to the extent that in an age of universal franchise, he must have worried the 'Establishment' ? It may be possible to see something very similar happening today with the Donald Trump phenomenon, even if their respective political positions are quite different. It may even be fair to say that the spoke was put into Mosley's wheel in a manner that the British establishment are expert at, unlike that which the Yanks are trying to do against Trump now, which is merely increasing his popularity.
@Fanakapan222 sadly that may happen in our current age of irrationality
I was never interested on Mosley but these videos have been too Great and undestandable. Thank you TIK for another interesting topic I didn't know I wanted to learn. Keep the great work.
Fascists still alive and well in U.K. look at your present government
"according to national geographic" is about as convincing as "according to history channel" or "according to flat earthers" XD
Except it's true according to every credible biologist and anthropologist, unlike the crazy conspiracy sources you mention. Check out National Geographic's sources for their article. Flat earthers and The History Channel never use credible sources.
Mainstream pushing a narrative is obviously why we're at the point we are today. People need to research themselves and find out what dissenting voices from the narratives are saying and not be sheeple.
this ^
To smart people, yes, but to TH-cam NG would be considered a "reliable source", hence why Tik references them.
When I want to look at pretty pictures of animals, I'll read Nat Geo
Race is actually genetic.
Thank god we didn't take on a fascist mindset in the UK, we wouldn't have all the joys of multiculturalism we have now.
The joys of crime
You’re fooling yourself if you think there’s no scientific validity to race. You can tell someone’s heritage by their DNA, that’s not scientific? I’m not promoting discrimination but cmon, let’s get real.
Its debatable. You should define a notion of "race" in order to say - has it scientific validity or not.
Have you ever thought of writing your own book on Mosley? You raise a great argument. I'd certainly buy it.
It makes perfect sense that one of the earliest fascist movements in Britain would be full of feminists. The Pankhursts were active in Australian fascism after women got the vote and there was no longer a requirement for a suffrage movement. One of the earliest women's suffrage leaders in the U.S. and the first women U.S. Senator was a woman named Rebecca Latimer Felton, who advocated for the lynching of black men. Southern women at the time were very concerned about black men getting the right to vote when white women couldn't. At the same time those white southern women didn't want black women to have the right to vote either. In the modern day a feminist academic journal was pranked into publishing chapter 3 of Mein Kampf, the only changes made were to replace Jew with man and Aryan with women. Feminist Patriarchy theory is exactly modeled on the Worldwide Jewish Conspiracy in the same manner, only the nouns are changed. It's why there was a game called Stormfront or Social Justice Warrior. It doesn't matter if it's the KKK, Black Panthers, Muslim Brotherhood, Antifa, or any Feminist organization, it's the same ideology, only the nouns differ.
Very true, but do you have the source for the pankhursts? I'm from Manchester, like they were, so I would love to look into this more.
Look up Adela Pankhurst, she's the daughter of Emmeline Pankhurst and founded a pro Nazi organization here in Australia after leaving the Communist Party. I think the Pankhursts were a disgusting family on so many levels, their anti male terrorism was bad enough yet though unsurprisingly they took things a step further and got involved with other hate groups.
@@Mitch93 Adela Pankhurst, a founder of the Australia First Movement, a fascist organization.
Why do they have to make videos to explain to Aboriginals that sleeping on the road is a bad idea if race doesn't exist?
Sitting or lying in the public waysh.
Mosley lost the PR war -it was a stitch up - your reference to the power of the current Woke left is very pertinent and we should fight it, as, arguably, Mosley tried to, Superb essay, TIK !
@Syd McCreath No need to be physically violent but you can't let them take over all the institutions like they have already especially the schools
@@overdose8329 we have to fight them in the sense of, fight their ideas and de-power the ideology. The feminists who dissented over gender ideology are doing a good job at that. One thing I learned from this video is the culture is very strong ad hard to break, but subversion might help instead.
Race is obviously real. People naturally gravitate towards their own race.
I'm not sure you will ever get through to the people who most need this information, but I appreciate your hard work at digging out the truth and sharing your thoughts no matter how unpopular the truth you are finding happens to be. I don't even want to look at the comments.
I'm just glad stuff like this is reaching anyone
29:55 Rowling recently compared activist with Death Eaters from Harry Potter. An accurate comparison when comparing how violent they were throughout the summer of 2020. I still remember seeing videos of them threatening to burn people's houses down who didn't comply with the revolutionary Fist. Plus the amount of clips of clubbings, stabbings, property damaged/stolen and at times execution style murders. "Mostly Peaceful" is a meme that I hope never gets forgotten.
woah hold now, there’s a big difference between protesters and people who took advantage of the chaos
@@arghbarf419 Not really, only counts 'which' protestors you're speaking of. Implying that those taking advantage of the situation were themselves "Not" protesting is silly. Even Terrorist are protestors relatively speaking.
I mean counter protestors who specifically go out to a Rally to cause trouble... do you call them peaceful? Definitely when they show up armed? Because that also happens. They're Counter Protestors, they're there to shake up, or break up another group who is also Protesting.
The fact that both parties are allowed to meet each other which always leads to violence is malicious on all parties including the police. As it was with Oswald Mosley, well game was rigged from the start.
The fact this sh*t goes back this far in history and yet hasn't changed. It just makes TIK's position that much more credible in my opinion. As we witness history repeating in real time.
These videos are amazing. They really make me look at history from a different perspective. I’ve always loved history but as I get older I’ve realised that there’s always two sides to a story and you put this across in an unbiased way. I have to admit that I’m not the quickest learner and as a result I have to watch the video a couple (sometimes more) of times to fully comprehend its content but it is not a problem as each time I do watch it a little light pops on and things are much more clear.
I was going to ask if you would recommend an “unbiased” book to read on the subject of the British fascist movement but when I got to the end it was clear by your statement that you could not do this.
Thanks again for helping us “understand” history as one of the main reasons why we repeat it is actually a misunderstanding of it and only listening to a biased side.
Thank Goodness! I have been saved from the pain and agony that was the tik-less week!
Some things never change. All the groups have this toxic mentality of manipulating as many people as possible to their side to fight against other groups and this went on for the entire history of humanity.
Wow. This only came out 2 hours ago?
I just started watching your videos and really love them. I appreciate the amount of effort and research you put in.
"There is no such thing as race"
- Straight out of the Juice playbook
I'm a fascist who's been watching your videos for a while. Thank you for giving an unbiased view on Mosley, you're the only history channel that has done this
Just out of curiosity, do you consider yourself a socialist? because most leftists claim that fascists are not real socialists but are closeted business shills.
At least you arent a nazi, or a marxist.
I used to be a fascist, but now see it as a 20th century ideology that's not coming back. Socialism with Chinese characteristics is the ideology to emulate in the 21st century imo, it's basically a variant of fascism adapted for the modern era
@@zyyl1949 socialism is a failed ideology and the people in china agree that socialism is not for their benefit, fascism is the only thing that saves the economic situation and the peoples situation, for example, spain, italy and so forth
@@secant1 Neither of those things are true as independent statistics from Pew, IPSOS and Harvard all show that China has the most popular government with their population of any country on earth, by a distance. They’re also unparalleled in human history with what they’ve achieved in the last 10 years so there’s a lot of cope here
Mosley and his ideology didn't have chance in Britain. That country was in much better shape than Germany or Italy. In regards to Hitler who got a power. Many think how cultured Germans and Austrians could accept Hitler. The problem is that they presented themselves as symbols of culture and civilization. Through their spectacular marches and parades, they expressed order, work and discipline. The very top of the membership were top intellectuals. Hitler had a vast and broad education, which fascinated many academics and scientists. It should be mentioned that he was also awarded the Order of the Iron Cross, which he earned for his merits and bravery in the war. For example, he fascinated the famous Norwegian Nobel laureate Knut Hamsun. On the other hand, Speer, Rosenberg or Goebbels were doctors of science and top intellectuals in their fields. Goering was a hero in WW1 as a war pilot. The only one in that team who wasn't quite on our level was Ernst Rehm, the founder of the SA, he was not imso mannered but he was a glorified Russian hero from WW1. So the Germans, who are a people of high culture, wanted the restoration of order from the chaos in which they found themselves.
You should cover sir oswald mosley's post war Union Movement.
Wish we had whatever would have stopped Britain becoming what it is now.
Race does exist and it is real, to deny it entirely is just absurd.
There’s no direct boundary to it though, we are all mixed to some extent. Now if you share majority heritage from a particular area and have grown up there in its culture, I could see how you could identify to a certain group but It’s pretty blurred. What do you think ?
Race is a stupid concept
@emptyhad2571 no, my IQ is far higher thanks to my race. Imagine being a 57 IQ subsaharan lmao
@@emptyhad2571it is definitely not a concept. It’s a tangible, physical thing
The Hero of Cable street was a Blackshirt from the West end of Newcastle called Tommy Moran. An x boxer and bare knuckle fighter, theres footage of him surrounded by Reds, and hes flooring them left right and centre, until he himself was brought down by a Red welding a chair leg wrapped in barbed wire. Tommy was a Body Gaurd for Oswald Mosely when he came to the N/E. Tommy was fearless, and was often in Gateshead and Newcastle alone selling the BUF Newspaper. No one dared take him to task for it.
Mosley sounds like a decent bloke.
Well obviously - that's the whole idea of this propaganda video.
@@badgertheskinnycow I'm sure you appreciate irony. Unless your American. Why is this a propaganda video? The fundamental point is that these left-wing extremist ideologies are very different. One had a racist/anti-semitic conception at the very core of its being and the other didn't. Marxist Socialism like National Socialism is anti-semitic. Hitler rejected the class struggle aspect.
@@badgertheskinnycow I mentioned Marxist nonsense but I was referring to the difference between National Socialism and Fascism. Very different. Fascism emerges from Trade Unionism.
@@christopherjones67 Marxism, at least in its core reject antisemitism, socialist of marxist thoughts have a very famous saying that says
"Antisemitism is socialism for the fools"
And although its hard to establish that tenets, its obvious its not to the extent of how the fascist did it, Nazis transform it into machinery of hate
Forget the class struggle, its pure violence for the elites to stomp the working class and trade unions
0:12 thanks for not wasting our time
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Alright I want someone to explain to me how an African, a white guy and an Asian aren't DISTINCT freaking races, this is total gaslighting lol.
Another excellent video from TIK.. Thankyou!👍
It’s sad in today’s political climate you have to have a disclaimer saying you’re not a fascist
True fascism has not ever been done in a country and when Tik does it it will be pure
For real, and there are plenty of TH-camrs that outright promote communism, nobody gives a shit about that. If you say boys can't be girls, you get accused of being fascist.
@@dogwhistle8836 So Italy wasn't Fascist?
@@soulknife20 no because they liked chick's with dicks since roman times
The fascists of today call themselves anti-fascists.
I'm fed up.
Fed up of Tik holding up books I possess yet have still failed to read!!
Of course, he's an awesome historian.
This would make ANTIFA heads explode
These short videos are your best work, thankyou
YES, there IS a scientific basis for race. YES, race IS genetic.
Explain
@jim
The number of races depends on the criteria you are using. You have either the big 3 or you can break it down to ethnicities- it is the lumper vs splitter argument.
When you mix two races you get Central Asians or Ethiopians. They are border groups between two categories and get lumped into one or another depending on what the exact line is.
It is a bit like asking what is the wavelength of each specific color. There is no agreed border, but everyone agrees blue exists and you can break blue into different sub-blues.
@jim Yes, it's called a breed. Same with dogs, the same with plants, same with microbes. Humans are not some special creation but are in fact a part of nature just like everything else. This has disturbing implications that may upset you, but that does not mean that it is wrong or immoral to be natural.
As someone who always was super interested in Mosley(thanks HOI4), your videos on him are really good at explaining his outlook and politics.
Race is real and it matters and that is a fact by virtue of biochemical, genetic and physical differences between peoples. Otherwise we would all be clones.
They're called halpogroups and the differences are entirely physical, I don't know if you're insinuating something more but humans are basically all clones, what world are you living in
You speak too vaguely to actually have valid criticism, unless you have something specific then feel free to move on, I believe your profile image speaks for itself, what parts of history do you take credit for also? In reality you have never done anything of significant value nor will you ever, so what does it matter what race you are? If you were something special you wouldn't speak like a pseudo intellectual
@@InternationalSocialism Someone got a nerve struck when blatant truth was pointed out to them, seems like. Enjoy living with your head under the sand guzzling progressive propaganda until your eyes bulge.
Google "what does the Talmud say about Christians"
There was another rival Nationalistic/Ecology organisation opperating in England at the time, called the Kindred of the Kibbo Kift. I think they wore Greenshirts. They often clashed with Mosleys Blackshirts.
From pictures i can see they just seem to wear robes and hoods
Why were they against the BUF?
@Syd McCreath Your a nut case. You think I've just invented that name? It was founded in 1923 by John Hargrave. A breakaway from the boy scouts. It became the Social Credit party in 1931. They were called the green shirts.
The perfect vid to listen to whilst painting up some BUF miniatures for Vbcw wargaming
When I was looking for pictures for the previous video on Mosley, I came across the Bolt Action miniatures of the BUF, some armed with rifles, but most armed with an assortment of hand-held weapons. Apparently, these miniatures could be used as a militia (cannon-fodder) to support the Germans during Bolt Action's Operation Sealion scenario, which I must admit is a novel idea, and I'm surprised to see it in a tabletop war game.
@@TheImperatorKnight
Oh you should check out footsore miniatures they do some other BUF Mins.
Vbcw is an alternative history wargaming setting where Britain in the interwar period falls into civil war as Edward refuses to abdicate and Mosley ends up as PM and someone try's to assistant the both of them at Edward crowning.
The amount of inter war history I've learned whilst gameing it is brilliant.
Brilliant video, I love how every video you present what seems to be a near unbiased view on the topic at hand and speaking the truth. In the case of these limited secondary sources, I think you should try your hand at writing a book to explain everything and pick up the slack where the other historians go wrong. I know I would certainly buy a book if it was written by you!
Thanks again tik! Extremely good videos. Always.
Fascist seem to be called conservative because they usually believe in traditional morality.
Culturally they are very traditional.
They oppose degenerate behavior homosexuality etc.
In Germany for example there was a great emphasis on the family and there were generous subsidies for family creation. Homosexuality transgenderism etc were basically outlawed.
Berlin was known as the sin capital of Europe during Weimar republic and it was widely known that degenerate behavior was rampant. The Nazis exploited this electorally by promising to get rid of this degeneracy.
Look at how ridiculous things are today. Ever wonder why? It's because many of those pushing degenerate godless behavior in Germany came to America and began to push it here.
Also in Germany there was a great emphasis on classical music.
USSR did exactly the same things you listed here (including the classical music) and still being regarded as progressive and left. Most of the ideologies from the political spectrum 80 years would be considered conservative when compared to the contemporary ones.
Race is the primal root out of which culture comes and without a coherent sense of which a culture is doomed to dissipation and decay.
Consider, for example, if Britain were majority black instead of white. Do you really think it would be the same country?
Probably not. That's either a good thing or a bad thing. Probably a good thing honestly. Britain did a lot of horrible stuff as Imperalists.
This is such a stupid comment, it's like asking "would humans be the same on another planet?"
@@soulknife20 and a lot of good things.
Honestly, considering that the average European is pretty stupid with the exception of a few intellectuals who have meaningful cultural impact, I see no reason why Africans couldn't have the same potential. People seem to forget that Europe once had all the same problems as Africa such as illiteracy and practices such as "witch doctors":
@@snowflakemelter1172 Not really, to normal people The British are the most evil empire in all of human history, keep whitewashing the crimes of your ancestors its a very european cultural trait
Have you ever consider getting an even posher accent for Mosley??
That was a bizarre intro;
Try telling a black American "there is no such thing as race" you'll probably get a black eye mate.
Race, when used in contemporary settings, simply refers to largely shared traits between groups. It is in no way a label that reflects direct origin or capacity for intellect, for example, the use of the word Caucasian. No one is pointing at someone who is 'Caucasian' and saying they are literally from the Caucasus; they're noting features that were recognizable to that region, including deeper set eyes, prominent brow ridges, fair to swarthy complexions, etc.
Moving on.
Mosely wasn't racist and was not anti-semitic; in cases where he called out 5th columnists who occupied international finance and trade, he is pointing out observable facts and not making absurd claims that call for violence against Jews.
He may in fact have had people within his party that may have held contempt for Jews or were outright anti-semites, however we do not live in a society where guilt by association is a valid criticism. Otherwise the Labour Party would have already folded tenfold for it's members opinions. Sir Keir Starmer is not an anti-semite. He has two children with his Jewish wife that he is raising within the Judaic faith/tradition, however by the logic that people espouse about Mosely and guilt by association, that would make Starmer an anti-semite due to the numerous cases of anti-semitic belief within Labour.
It is simply not true.
You didn't provide anything showing Mosely's anti-semitism. You've given sources of people calling him anti-semitic which is just hearsay, tantamount to ad ignorantiam.
Brillliant video! A great watch as always. 🎉
You can literally train a algorithm on genes that will be able to sort them into the regions they are from.
That's called a proof for genetic differences in races
Hey TIK, will you ever make videos on the Spanish Third Positionists during and pre Spanish Civil War? I feel like they represent a more left-wing fascism and show a different strain of the Third Position with the Falange.
Or maybe a look into how Communism and Fascism overlap with each other.
@Syd McCreath It's a little hard to define, but generally, the Third Position refers to ideologies like Nazism, Fascism, Falangism (FE), National Bolshevism, Ba'athism, etc.
Depending on who you ask, the Third Position could mean anything. However, most people would agree that the Third Position is against or beyond both Marxism and Liberalism, hence the name.
Hi, you should maybe make a video on the Romanian legionnaires and the iron guard (in the interbellic period) , they arent talked about much (I'm not supporting them)
Nostics attacking Nostics is funny to me.
Freemasons are nostics, by definition.
My old boss was one. I asked his son what it was and he said he had no clue
Odd thought here but it seems to me people have learned from history but due to a distorted picture have learned the wrong lessons.
If I may, a video on how to recognize a biased source could be helpful.
Thanks for the video today TIK!
00:10 No genetic evidence of race...
Dogs all genetically dogs, but they are of different breeds anyway... Some are better as guard-dogs some are just fun and sweet...
If race isn't grounded in genetics, how come you can use 23andMe to find out where someone's ethnic origin is?
As for the argument that "it's a made up label" - yeah, quite literally every category is made up by humans. Biology didn't make discreet categories for us to 'discover', these are labels we use out of convience.
Perhaps the most famous, and best established, biological classification - the species - is a concept which has a inconsistent definition which changes in a given context. This gives rise to the "species problem", in practice there are about 26 different conceptions of what a species is depending on how you count it.
Some would say a species is an organism that can breed to produce fertile offspring - but then how does this explain ring species? How do you classify asexually reproducing organisms?
Should we therefore throw away the concept of the "species", since it is a made up label? No, of course not, what we are doing is categorising different organisms. The species concept is a useful tool in doing so, and helps to build an understandable model of the world.
Now, in relation to the use of the term "race", is it possible to categorise humans based on their ethnic origins, through DNA sequencing? Yes, in fact we can build maps based on distributions. That means we can categorise people based on this. Shockingly, these correspond fairly well to the phenotypes of humans. These phenotypic differences are not entirely inconsequential, unless you mean to tell me the fact that having darker skin to protect from sunburn in hot climates is irrelevant.
None of the above has anything to do with politics, nothing to do with treating people equally, or humanely.
It is, the only question is what "resolution" (geography and time) do you want to achieve in regards to biological origin and how do you define the population.
Problem with population genetics is that you Do Can distinguish between 100 Chinese and 100 British based on genetics.
You could also make a good, reliable distinction between 100 Russians and 100 British.
Here is where the problem is.
You Can Not do it for 1 person.
Me for example, I don't have a "Slavic" Y-chromosome, although my entire family is Slavic, from all the sides, since forever.
The problem with people discussing race and biology is that they become Hegelian: if you can't prove Everything, you can't prove Anything.
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Well that's the point, how you define it is a label that is created - you can define it as tightly or as broadly as possible. You can subdivide it too - that's how phylogenetics works.
This isn't a question of whether we should, or even the best way to do it, merely that it isn't unscientific to try and categorize ethnic human subdivisions, it can absolutely be done scientifically, without malice or bigotry.
@@guntguardian3771 Remember when we were kids and when nobody wanted to teach us the entire truth, because we were not suitable for such great knowledge, because we would not be able to understand.
Well... Today is the same, only we are no longer children.
Again, you are 100% right and you can do population analysis and be pretty precise. You can do linguistic analysis, correlate things... You can add cultural element, correlate all that...
However, for some strange reason, the same Fathers who are not allowing you to express the obvious are imposing the laws based on exactly that, and those laws affect your daily life.
When you made your comment you saw a smiley face come up. If YT doesn't approve of your comment the smiley face goes away along with your comment. So, you have to watch what you say about things... When I read older history books, European or American, race is used to denote nationalities even language groups or related tribes, like Celts. The British, for example called the Scots a race, the Germans a race, the French a race, the Celts a race. So, there are different meanings for race, depending on how and when the term was used.
If there is no race why are there people with much melanine, why have east asians thicker skin, why can we differentiate who is more an Neandertaler?
The Sub-Saharan species are the only species to have on average 19% Homo-Habilis/Homo-Erectus DNA. This species went extinct over 2 million years ago. Euros have the lowest amount of Neanderthal DNA.
Race is not a social construct. This is an anti-Euro agenda to further the progression of the ethnic cleanse of the Euro species.
Interesting topic. We here in the US have no idea about pre-WW2 England and all the different movements that were taking place.
@Syd McCreath Our history classes are just there to spread propaganda.
@Syd McCreath "The US slave trade."
Implies said slave trade was not both started and forcibly perpetuated by "mother Britain" in the colonies, which it absolutely was. Also kinda implies that your education ignored the much larger Portuguese/Brazilian slave trade and Muslim slave trades. Probably because the US was the global superpower at the time of your education. Meanwhile, Britain after the War of 1812 becomes largely irrelevant to the US outside of the World Wars and Thatcher. It's a mutual disparity of influence/relevance.
US schooling is poor, but so is everyone else's. Having curated propaganda force-fed to you by the state hardly counts as a quality education. If British education were so great, TIK would not need to be untangling this mess so badly.
Because the whole education systems in Anglosphere is garbage
@@SepticFuddy you have taken the wording too much to heart. "US slavery" is just a part of what is learned, the point being that though no longer British history, is still thought.
The Atlantic slave trade was taught in far more detail, generally. But it's dependent on what year you're taught to detail.
You get what you pay for. The US public education system exists for minorities, foreigners and parents that don't love their children.
Always appreciate your good and honest takes.
Excellent work.
I was watching the way kelly Jay keen was treated in NZ, history repeats.
Careful comrade :') You'll wake the lynch mob
Honestly, I think that even a significant percentage of Communists from Mosely's day would be marching with him in support of Kellie if they were taken to the present day Bill and Ted style and able to witness firsthand the nightmare of modern culture.
I don't understand people's problems with transgender people.
@@soulknife20Honestly the word transgender has lost all meaning, how is a man who identifies as a woman a "transwoman" if he hasn't even "transitioned" (aka cut off his penis), isn't the word "trans" a bit of an anachronism now if as we're being told that these people were "always" the opposite sex? how can you "transition" into somewhere you always were? the word "transition" like the word "transform" connotes the transformation of someone into a new state different than their original state.
@Johnny John-Johnson Its because gender isn't biological. It's a social construct. They don't call them biological roles.
I feel like I'm stealing getting this great content for free. Thank you, TIK.
Man I’m loving this new take on your channel!
Violent rivalries between factions of Fascists, Falangists, Nazis, Communists, Socialists, are a feature, not a bug. In no way does it really indicate real difference in the programme advocated by the respective factions.
actually, this reminds me of watching Sargon of Akkad doing his tour in politics and all the weird Labour, "Liberal" and communist drones that came out of the woodwork to try to disrupt him in strange ways
it's the same tactics indeed, as well as that period where Nigel Farage was the enemy. I think he found a way through it.
British police enploying two tier policing.
You don't say.
They're proudly carrying on the tradition then.
Ah yes race isn't real... Because I can't clearly see it with my eyes.
meanwhile in Stalingrad ... "ronf ronf ronf " said Von Paulus ... " yawn! " answered Chuikov on the other side of barricade
A wise lesson in the end.
And TIK has spoken...
AMEN
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Excellent, I've been dying for content
We British don’t care about this if we British want to be fascist 🇬🇧 the answer is yes
Try Stephen Dorrills "Blackshirt", I found it to be compelling and comprehensive.
Thank you for the recommendation!
Good job on calmly removing the mystique of these political movements. It would be interesting to see how modern groups like National Front, BNP, Britain First, and Patriotic Alternative fit into the patchwork.
I don't think they even understand this kind of thing themselves to be honest.
Much respect for this series. A genuine attempt to be balanced about Mosley.
Good video. Mosley is quite an interesting figure.
You should do a video on the history of falangism. Or even the Irish involvement in Spanish civil war, many brave Irishmen fought for Franco. 👍🏻🇮🇪
Legends
More fought for the republicans 🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪
Thanks, TIK! A brilliantly diagnosed analysis. You are right. The key is understanding the difference between fascism and National Socialism. I appreciate your approach to explaining the course of events. Highly enlightening and mentally engaging. Bravo!
They are both disgusting
Hey, could you make a video about fascism in Brazil? There's quite a lot about it that doesn't get much attention, such as the Vargas fascist dictatorship and the integralist movement started by Plínio Salgado.
Vargas is an interesting figure.
He's still loved by elders from that era and the left in general, but he sent a pregnant Jewish communist to Germany during the National Socialist regime.
He sent his army to fight Italy in WWII (after vehemently claiming he'd never do such a thing), but his labour law was in line with how fascists see the employer-employee relationship.
@@xanthippus9079 UNDER WHAT CIRCUMSTANCE DID GETULIO VARGAS SEND THIS PREGNANT JEWISH WOMAN BACK TO GERMANY? WAS IT UNDER THE LAW AS IT WAS THEN WRITTEN? IF VARGAS ACTIONS WERE LEGAL THEN HE CANNOT BE FAULTED FOR THAT.
@@duanerice-mason2115 Her name was Olga Benario. She was born in Germany, but lived in Brazil where she joined revolutionary communists who opposed Vargas. In 1936 she was captured and sent to her home country.
Vargas could have punished her and her husband (the commie insurrectionist leader) in any way he wanted. However, he knew exactly what was the best way to punish his enemy.
@@xanthippus9079 YOU HAVE NOT EXPLAINED HOW SHE WAS “CAPTURED” DID SHE VIOLATE A LAW. IN THE UNITED STATES IF A NATURALIZED CITIZEN COMMITS A FELONY 7 YEARS AFTER NATURALIZATION HIS CITIZENSHIP CAN BE REVOKED. I SAY AGAIN DID SHE VIOLATE A LAW?
@@duanerice-mason2115 Well, she was an integral part of an insurgent militia during a dictatorship. That's one of the worst crimes in a tyrant's book.
I'm not defending her movement nor her actions, I was just pointing out how harsh and calculating Vargas was and how the modern Brazilian left selectively ignores facts to adore the man.
Excellent work again :)
The disclaimer being so short was great 😂
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Discoverd you today. You are amazing and i am so happy i discoverd you
Brilliant video. Agreat listing as always... Thank you, TIK