History Summarized: Julius Caesar and the Fall of the Republic
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This was supposed to be a 10-minute video on Caesar and Augustus, but as you can see, I got a little carried away. My next history video will be part of something cool and new that I'm really excited for, but after that it's back to Rome to tackle Augustus! Constantinople ain't gonna sack itself, and we have a lot of Roman history to get through between here and then. So get hype, because plenty more videos are on the way!
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60 senators 23 stab wounds sounds about right for a group project.
And you just know there is one guy who got a dozen stabs in.
Weirdo2599 Well, it was one guy surrounded by sixty guys, so not everyone will be close enough to get a stab at it... ha, ha.
The senators were also incompetent enough to wound eachother several times...
I know right? There's always the guy who does everything while everyone else just does nothing
You just know it was Brutus that did most of it. The others convinced him it was a good idea, then went and looked at memes while he did it all. Jerks.
"What're you gonna do, stab me?"
-Julius Caesar
No.
Famous last words
Yes
-The senate
Gretchen Wieners had cracked.
Julius Caesar, the Romaniest Roman who ever Rome'd
Politically and militarily effective, established lasting and coherent bureaucracies that both helped citizens and strengthened the country as a whole, conquered enemies and made new allies outside the borders of Rome, and to top it all off, he was an egotistical power hungry monster who would not be stopped (until he was).
Andrew Howard not really I can you count the fact that the river themes runs through London he didn't get that far
Babylon he was surpassed, as history shows the roman occupation eventually got close to the Scottish border
Ian Mills I always figured his offshore invasion was 90% publicity stunt, which worked out just fine.
I suppose you're right though, those pesky locals gave Julius Ceasar a hell of a time
I can't even Rome
How do you Rome m9
Caesar is partially so interesting since in him you can see all the negative and positive qualities of Rome itself. He was everything you think of when thinking of Romans.
Caesar: *I just came for a good time and honestly I feel attacked right now.*
Caesar: Literally.
Thats right you did.
Or in other words *gets stabbed* Caesar: "dudes...uncool"
@@1145223bena based reference🫡
@@1145223bena Hah! I got that reference.
Cesar: *get's stabbed*
The Senate: All right guys! Now the people will love us for disposing of their oppresso-
The Roman People: SHIZAAAAAA!
This comment is underrated af 😂
Ceasar could save Rome, but not himself. Ironic.
+Minh Trung Tran It's not a story the Gauls would tell you...
Overly Sarcastic Productions "I have become more powerful than any Consul has ever dreamed of"
(Also omg you guys replied to me! So honoured :D)
Ceaser: "EGO SENATUS"
+The Rising Theurge
_"Not yet."_
Brutus: You were my brother Julius! I loved you! *stabs*
When caesar read about Alexander the kinda-half-decent he cried because he thought he could never be like him
@@idontknow-hw1xd nah he admired Achilles, and wanted to be like him, but he was never upset. The kid never had the inferiority complex to think that, maybe he couldn't live up to Achilles. And he earned the right to be so damn confident, considering we still talk about him today, and most people don't even know the point at which they first heard about him. Even a four year old has heard of Alexander lol. That's how famous he still is. Waaaay past Achilles.
@@V-q8is He admired him and was upset that he would not be able to live up to Achilles as a boy but later on he surpassed him. Like yeah later on he wasn't upset about it that was just during childhood.
(idk I could be wrong)
@@idontknow-hw1xd yeah, I never read that he was upset, just that he admired Achilles and wanted to emulate him.
@Xexes I don’t know where you’re from, but where I come from, not many people other than literary enthusiasts and history aficionados know Caesar, but practically everyone knows Alexander’s name at least, and that he was a great Greek king and warrior. And no, I’m not Greek. This is not to undermine Caesar, of course.
@Xexes somewhere in Asia. You are from Iran, I guess?
Julius Caesar gave us many things. For example, pin cushions.
Just Some Guy with a Mustache
Why are you fuckin everywhere
And the month of July. Named after himself of course.
Just Some Guy with a Mustache wait what why are you here? You're everywhere.
Just Some Guy with a Mustache YOU'RE EVERYWHERE
Just Some Guy with a Mustache dude I see you everywhere
C:Ah Brutus, I see General Pompey has been destroyed
B: In the name of the Roman republic, you are under arrest
C: it’s treason then
B: the senate will decide your fate
C: I AM THE SEN- *proceeds to get stabbed 23 times by the senate*
this is exactly what I thought of.
Shiv Palp-a-teen wasn't really much of a general or did anything for the people. He's more Octy than July.
@@ahmedamine24 for a sec i thought C was for cassius and i was so confused
Lmao, imagine 😅
You know, the way you talk about Caesar, I'm beginning to think he's the perfect embodiment of the Prince.
Jack Rackam
Machiavelli was an Italian, I wonder if he took 'inspiration'
(They also read the prince, so...)
Firebrain the Prince was written centuries after they died. The Middle Ages or Renaissance at least. But probably not in the Enlightenment which was all about equality and morality
Was referring to Napoleon and Mussolini. Sorry I wasn't clear.
You nailed it actually, Jack. Much of Machiavelli's work was directly inspired by the events of this period in Roman history.
He said as much himself, and drew on figures like Sulla, Marius, Caesar to illustrate his points. "...Better to be feared than loved," for example. Many more.
If you're writing a treatise on complex political machinations, there aren't many richer veins to mine than Late-Republic Rome.
(After being stabbed 23 times)
Julius Caesar: Quick name a salad after me!
NO,MAN!!!!
"I mean, it was his final request. I know we killed him, but it'd be rude not to honor it."
"Are you kidding me?! The man already has a _month_ named after him! Any time it's 'July,' YOU'RE IN CAESARTOWN!"
"Anyone with enough connections and resources could effectively cripple the normal flow of government and steer it in favorable directions for their own benefit."
Uh oh.
TerantQ
Uh Oh right. Reminds me of someone... DT 🤣
And the Kochs, the Mercers, etc.
The_Anime _Fan except Caesar is actually skilled and intelligent.
Basically every system.
The_Anime _Fan you cant compare DT to Caesar. Put some respect on Caesar’s name.
Et tu, Bluete?
Nick Boss *Bluete? ;)
SirJoules *Blutus
SirJoules Damn that’s much better
wat
PastelNerd 1 "et tu" pretty much means, "and you?" In English
3:55 we briefly visit the void
and again at 10:12
While people have noticed parallels of Caesar and modern politicians, the biggest difference between the two is popularity. Caesar was seen by the general populace as sort of a savior, one who took down the corrupt Republic and brought many government reforms, today, with the much more hands-on Western Republics with the citizens, the same politicians aren't viewed in such a positive light. The support of the people is another piece of Caesar's success, and it's a piece those politicians are missing.
Caesar is nothing like our modern politicians. For one he actually lived his philosophy, and had actually fighting/military leadership experience. Could you say the same for theresea may, angela merkel or obama?
@@Takeru9292 Keep in mind that Obama is the man who led the successful manhunt to assassinate Osama bin Laden.
MGTOWTakeru Having military experience is almost entirely irrelevant to leading capabilities. Eisenhower was a war hero, and a completely average and forgettable president.
@Aditya Chavarkar trump almost started a civil war to keep himself in power
@@peytondailey6108 what a brain dead take, trump didn’t use the intelligence agencies to spy on his political opponents or support massive nationwide insurgencies like what happened in the summer of 2020, all trump did was contest election results, which is exactly what democrats have done every single election they have lost in the 21st century.
Julius Caesar wasn't the first dictator for life though, I'm always sad that people skip Sulla.
I agree that Sulla is often skipped over, but he was not dictator for life. He was dictator for a year before restoring the traditional system. He was immediately elected consul(somewhat suspicious) and retired following the end of his term.
V.P. Anderson he was appointed dictator for life, he just stepped down from the roll.
V.P Anderson Sulla’s dictatorship was without term limit as well. It was not the old dictatorship of 6 months. We can’t really know what Caesar would have done had he lived, if Sulla was assanited and his supporter taken power permanently like Ocatavian after Caesar we would be taking of Sulla as the the one who took power.
and most of all the irony of what sulla did enabled and set precedents for Caesar!
#Dictator4life
I just realized those little statues are Virgil and Dante with glasses
11:31
Blue: ...[Caesar] was making moves both with and on the Queen Cleopatra.
Caesar: Oh ~Salve~ Domina
Translation: Oh ~Hello~ mistress (female master)
this killed me omg
Latin class FTW
oh hell to-the -naw
OH, HELL-TO-THE-NAW!!!!!!!
AW, HELL-TO-THE-NAW
AW, HELLLL NO!!!!!
The reason Caesar was able to gain power through bribes was because it was such an established practice that people would openly complain about the size of their bribes if they were too small. The discussion around Caesar always seems to single him out for paying bribes, but Roman politics were lubricated in bribes as far back as the codifying of the Twelve Tables of Law. Caesar wasn't even the first person to declare himself dictator for life, two previous dictators, Sulla and Marius, had gained power through civil war, declared themselves dictator for life, and then been deposed by the coming of another rival for that position. They weren't even out of living memory by the time Caesar came to power.
His Co-consul declared every day for the calendar year a holiday, meaning that no business could be conducted in Rome. This was a last-ditch stab at preventing Caesar's popular and pro-pleb reforms, and it was killing the city. Caesar ignoring it was basically saying "Yeah, this will kill Rome, so we're not going to do that".
Caesar brought in veterans to the city because his opponent's "Guilds" (physically oppressive political gangs, more like mafia) were bigger and Caesar had more pull with the military crowd. The political gangs were established during the time as noted by the clashes between Clodius and Milo, which became regular fair at the time. However most of Roman political "scandal" dealt with someone being outed for something bleedingly obvious and normal at the time.
Yeah. Caesar was a selfish man who always put himself above others. But he wasn't a moustache twirling tyrant.
He was a Noble Demon at worst, and an Anti Hero at best.
Sulla resigned himself.
@@marcorc5167 After putting a -lot- of people to death and seizing their property.
Well said
After putting all of his own men in power and destroying the reform or populares faction and enshrining the conservative or optimates in the government.
I'm glad to see someone actually address both the positive and negative sides of Caesar in a more comprehensive way. Way too often do I see him either lionized as a people's champion slain by a corrupt oligarchy or demonized as THE dictator who was completely irredeemable because he wanted to remove a corrup- I mean he was destroying the republic. The funny thing is is that I would expect to hear about his sketchy actions when people take the latter of those two positions, but it's only ever that he was a dictator (with all the modern baggage that has) and destroying a (kinda) democratic system.
Actually, he did have some witty last words- instead of “et tu Brute”, he used the Greek “και συ παιδε”, which means “even you child”. It wasn’t meant like “even you betrayed me”, more like “this comes for you too”. Essentially “I’ll see you in hell”
There was one village in Gaul he never conquered. :)
Yeah, but they were doping, so I don't think it counts... ;)
*Childhoodmemories intensifies
BOOM! nostalgia
Shush, don’t spoil the ending!
asterix?
Why would Caesar be blamed for the fall of Rome when Sulla did most of this on his own far before Caesar to the point that so many people said that was the end of the Republic?
Yeah by the time of the first triumvirate the roman republic was on its last legs, by his time it was pretty much just stuck between whether or not Pompeii, Ceaser or the conspirators in the senate would have been further empowered at the expense of the republic.
You can definitely argue this, but at the very least Caesar was the more immediate cause of the permanent dysfunction of the actual governmental system of the Republic.
Furthermore, Sulla was, despite everything, a conservative. The preservation of the Republic was by all accounts one of his primary goals, even if he had to bend the rules to do it. He tried to prevent anyone from doing what he'd done again, and for all that it was clearly a total failure we can still probably say that the Republic lasted a while longer than it would have if a reformer, like Caesar, had come out ahead in the civil war at the time.
Not to mention that even a century prior in the time of the grachhi the republic had already began to unravel as violence and corruption had become pretty much everyday affairs.
The late roman republic was a flaming mess, if a fun one to learn about.
I mean the problem was is that by that time the people didn't really have any power left even in the republic, and even if the conservatives or republicans in the senate had won out it would have been pretty much guaranteed to descend into a full on oligarchy. The republic wasn't going to live on as anything close to a democracy even if Rome was able to survive without disintegrating further.
Yeah, I agree with that assessment. What I simply mean is that Sulla's victory probably made the fall of the republic a more gradual process, regardless of if that was good or bad.
Autocracy is only as good as its leader. A good leader can take a poor, war torn, country and turn it into a super power in a single life, while a bad leader can destroy it almost immediately. Democracy on the other hand, requires a great leader to do only a little good, but requires the entire system to fail in order to do a little bad.
Leivve Its basically flipping a coin and will bite you in the butt, if it shows the wrong side.
Say more rolling a dice, as there are three kinds of leaders. Great ones that are glorified in history, Bad ones that are remembered by history, then good ones that history doesn't remember because everything ran smoothly during their time.
There is something to admire, or at least to be said for the rulers who were able to maintain their countries good status (assuming that they held actual power) even if they didn't do "great" things.
+Leivve
That's actually a good analogy.
This sounds like a line from Legend of the Galactic Heroes, especially between Yang Wen-li and Reinhard von Lohengramm
TRULY A VICTORY FOR THE FORCES OF JUSTICE !!!!!
Antony:“So if you feel like rioting, you didnt hear it from me“
Citizens:“Um...ok.“
Antony:“Also Caesar left you all a ton of money“
*riot ensues*
Which video was that from again?
Shakespeare Summarized: Julius Caesar
Shakespeare Summarized: Antony and Cleopatra
The beheading of Pompeii was a horrendous violation of hospitality.
yea, pompey
His name was Gnaeus Pompeius Magnus. Pompey the Great is how English speakers refer to him. Like Marcus Antonius is called Marc Anthony.
+Sara Samaletdin
Like how they refer to Gaius Julius Caesar Octavianus as Octavian?
a hellenic pagan
*HE WAS A CONSUL OF ROME!*
During the late republic period, I would like to quote Posca from the HBO Rome series, that summed it all up pretty clearly
''The Roman people are not crying out for clean elections. They are crying out for jobs. They are crying out for clean water, for food, for stability and peace
The Republic had been embroiled in civil war and political violence for at least a century before Caesar took power. It had long since fallen; Caesar was just the guy who came out of that mess on top. (Actually, if we're being pedantic, Augustus came out on top, but Julius laid the groundwork for him to do so.)
I have to agree with Sean here. Ceasar killing the republic? It was already either dying rapidly or justs plain dead. Marius and Sulla were not the best of friends later on and tore the republic a new one. Even before that with the killing of the Gracchi brothers the republic used violence to solve politcal problems, a sign that all is not well at all.
I think Caesar legitimately wanted to preserve the republic, and would have perhaps even succeeded if he wasn't swiss cheesed out of the picture. Much of his career and projects were efforts to restructure the republic in such a manner as to allow it to function, a spring cleaning of sorts. He was certainly in it for himself, but far less than his Augustus or Antony, the former effectively made himself the first Emperor.
The real question about Caesar is.....
why is it called Caesar Salad? What Happened to Augustus Salad?
Professor Palmtree any salad is a Ceaser salad if you add 23 knives
Caesars salad was named after the place, where it was invented (either the square where the restaurant stood or the name of the restaurant itself). Seeing as there was no creative chef in Augustus Restaurant at Augustus square, we have no Augustus salad, saladly.
WHY!?!? That pun!
Because it presented itself Pompej style. To Caesar and on a silver platter.
It's funny, no one asks after the ceasarian cut.
More funy, it was a relative of Caesar that got his name (Caesar) from the caesarian cut, because that was how he was born. Caesar was named after his relative.
Only after Caesar Caesar became a title and the source for the same title in other languages. For examole, in Germany Caesar became 'Kaiser' and the caesarian cut the 'Kaiserschnitt'. In Russia Caesar got translated into Tsar (no idea how the caesarian cut was translated). And so on. Just listing where and how Caesar got translated is more than enough for a video or an essay.
What I renjoy about that is that it shows how one name and one man sends his echos throughout history.
So that’s why the Gauls in Astérix don’t like talking about Alesia!
I was looking for an Asterix joke
"WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE ALESIA IS, SO THERE!"
-Winesanspirix
Aside from the Alesia defeat, for decades... We really didn't know where Alesia was. it was abandoned after the siege. The joke works both ways.
"Like this guy, Julius Caesar, who I'm sure will do everything in his power to perverse the republic--"
Me: ahahAHahAHAHAHAHAHA
That is a very appropriate typo.
I recommend Historia Civilis. It's really interesting seeing all the little details within roman politics. Seeing how Caeser played the system and what he accomplished is very interesting. Also seeing what a brilliant commander he was in Gaul explains why he was so accomplished in the civil war.
ALL OF GAUL IS DIVIDED INTO THREE PARTS
Ellie Winters omnia gaul in partes tres divisa est
I love your Age of Mythology music in the background for the last half of the video. That game was my childhood and I haven't been able to play it in years, but this gave me a nostalgia boom.
AeroandCyndar it's on steam now man! It even has gotten a new expansion pack
Scipio Africanvs Ah man thanks, I’ll do that.
I feel like Caesar might've been the rare historical figure who meant well but realised he had to break the rules to get there.
11:21 HE WAS A CONSUL OF ROME!
Jordan Milligan Shame on the house of Ptolemy for such barbarity, shame...
WHY WOULD YOU KILL HIM?!?!?!
To be fair, Caesar’s actions were not unprecedented at the time, in fact, something you missed was the reason for Caesar to have the driving need to reclaim his family honor wasn’t just that his father wasn’t consul, but because Sulla literally purged Caesar’s family when he seized all Roman power and the boy Caesar himself was narrowly spared execution. Which really should say a lot for his later clemency
To be fair to Caesar here, this was not the first time a roman marched his legions on Rome. Ever since politicians started wielding their private armies in the times of Marius and Sulla, this would become common practice it would seam.
Yeah boi Historia Civilis!
Martin Conway BOXES
I live for D&D references in your videos
AubreyLIW David and Dan?
firelord luke 😂😂
AubreyLIW was I right?
firelord luke oh sorry, I thought you were joking - it stands for Dungeons & Dragons
Savage
I’m really glad Blue talked about this
Ave, true to Caesar.
Snattlerake
Legion Dog
Not only is Blue’s voice extremely pleasant to work to, but I learn while working on silly projects. This is why I love OSP, and everything about the two of them.
Can Red do a series about each of the 12 olympians and like their most famous myths?
This is actually really well done.
Blue is writing in the shadow of Historia Civilis' work of a long, comprehensive history of the roman republic and Julius Caesar. Rather than try and compete with this he instead uses the older work as a medium to let the viewer get additional information he doesn't have time to explain. Blue found room in an area I thought was already complete- this serves as the perfect summary to all of the HC videos, as well as its own content by itself.
I'm sleepy, but sure I'll water... Blue is best ASMR...
fraya1022 Ill water?
You mean “watch”?
You mean “watch”?
he's just that sleepy
Sleep
So glad to see a big channel like you guys promoting Historia Civilis!
You know that historia civilis has about 1000 subs less than overly sarcastic productions right?
Caesar may have written about how awesome he was in Gaul, but he failed to mention two certain Celts that were a major thorn in his side!😉
A whole village, in fact.
And their little dog too! ;)
Brutus: Hey Ceaser, how's it gowing?
Ceaser: Good, uh, why do you have a knife behind your back?
Brutus: Uh, cutting the pie
Ceaser: I don't think we invented those yet.
Brutus: CEASER! Stop ruining our continuity!
Ceaser: Maybe you should stop breaking the fourth wall.
Brutus: *sigh* This is why we planned to stab you.
Ceasar: the other guys, i expected that from, but you to Brutus!
Roman people: Yo, Caesar, how’s it going?
Caesar: Oh, nothing much. Just being stabbed 23 times.
really bruh, u just had to say that
Ohno!!!!
60 senators, 23 stab wounds. Seems legit for a group project. Et tu Brutus?
I love you guys! Watching your videos make me laugh and smile. Keep up the great work and animations
Thing I love about this channel is that it makes meh... history into amazingly entertaining videos. Thank you!!
10:07
inhales
*HE WAS A CONSUL OF ROME*
5:15 “Anyone with enough connections and resources could effectively cripple the normal flow of government and steer it in favorable directions for their own benefits.” 🤔
I can imagine Legionaries charging in Gaul screaming "For the Republic!"
In reality it was for Caesar himself XD
I love it when you guys link to other videos I have already seen. It makes me feel much more intelligent than it should
MY HISTORY TEACHER STARTED PLAYING THIS VIDEO IN MY CLASS AND I GOT SO EXCITED
8:47 but what about the tiny village on the coast of Gaul that stood unconquered?
For those who get that this is a reference to Asterix and Obelix, good on you.
Romans be crazy.
But how did he beat Asterix and Obelix?
lul
He didn't in fact he made them emporer
Your videos remain easily one of my favourite on this site, man. Great work as always.
Loving the historias plug, that channel deserves so much love.
"To think I saved these men, just so they could destroy me..."
ah yes,,,history time *rubs hands together*
You and Red put the fun back into learning. I hope you two are enjoying your break.
Thanks for plugging Historia Civilis. It's a great channel.
No coin, not many stabby things. How to overthrow medium-entrenched republic with largest militare on planet? Askin for frend.
Easy give em some free health care and a pack of gum and half that military will join you.
GoneZombie oil trap
The one dislike is Julias Ceaser himself
The other one is Marcus Antonius who wasn't mentioned in the video but once. Next time, Mark Antony.
Then Augustus
Kinda hard to do that when he's dead
Or anyone with Gaul or British ancestry. *coughCaesarsaprickcough*
*Julius Caesar (or Gaius Iulius Caesar)
I LOVE how you guys mentioned historia civilis
The shout-out to historia civilis made me subscribe. Keep up the good work!
When I was doing an AP Art History class in high school, my teacher assigned an emperor (starting with Augustus) to each student so we could remember the timeline of the Empire. I was Marcus Aurelius if I recall correctly. The Etruscans, the civilization with unique artwork before the Romans copied the Greeks for their statuary and portrait art, were a treat to study as well.
Hearing about Caesar and Octavius/Octavian was fun, but I would love to hear about the Etruscans one day, Blue.
AnaxErik4ever
Isn't Octavian one of the characters in Heros Of Olympus?🤣
He was the ward of Caesar and the first emperor of Rome before Riordan even touched the name.
I seem to remember some history show uncovering some details about the last days of Caesar, about how by that time he was suffering (and trying to hide) some pretty painful and serious body ailments, and that it was fully possible that, even if forewarned of the coming of the assassins, he deliberately left himself unprotected to them. Something about choosing to accept the wrath of his countrymen versus dying an indignant death due to disease or bodily failure or something.
Like, on the day of the assassination, he could have had a cadre of loyal guards with him, and taken a secured route, but he chose to not be heavily accompanied (or was entirely unguarded. I forget. For all I know, the few guards he might have had might have been part of the assassins group), and took a route that guaranteed that his killers would have the opportunity to kill him.
Very late to the reply but yes Caeser was unguarded by choice. After the civil war he disbanded the 10th and 13th legions (his best veterans) and requested no personal guards as to show the people the war was over and he wanted only peace. He didn't want guards because he saw politicians who bring guards as attempts to intimidate others. No legion was to occupy the city of Rome either as to not be interpreted as oppression. Honestly as much I want to see both sides to the argument I lean towards him being a genuinely good guy who only wanted what's best for Rome and it's people. He seizes power through military action sure but unlike nearly every dictator in history he didn't use it to maintain power. Of the 20 senators we know by name that killed him only 12 have well documented backgrounds and even then all 12 had extremely selfish reasons for doing so (a debt Caeser refused to forgive, taking power away from a provincial leader, and obviously just loyal to Pompey still)
And suddenly, a youtuber I love is now a credible source for my history project
This might sound really weird but Blue’s voice is pleasing to hear and is easy to listen to
One thing MIGHT have saved the Republic: Cicero being a little more power-hungry.
The only noble bit about the assembly of the first triumvirate was Cicero's rejection of Caesar's suggestion to make it an awesome foursome (the invite on the grounds that Cicero may have been nouveau riche and a bit of a blowhard, but everyone knew he was honest, so if Cicero joined, everyone would have seen it as legit.).
Cicero was big on concord (except with knobs like Catilinus and Clodius), could have kept the peace between Caesar and Pompey, was smart enough to have found a way to keep things a little more Republican with well-written legislation, suggesting less dodgy ways and means to the threesome, and contributing his governing expertise to Rome as a whole rather than just a province (the province he governed absolutely loved him).
Cicero was, after all, clever enough to stop a large armed coup (Catiline's) with good intelligence, a neat bit of politics (a senatus consultum ultimum) and a couple of executions, avoiding a full-on armed conflict or a lot of knives in the night that would have involved half the senate being murdered. And he was a committed republican. He could have, with a bit of luck, saved the republic, at least while he lived.
But Cicero was too principled to accept his place in an awesome foursome. He couldn't do a little evil that could have led to a lot of good (or at least, a lot less evil overall).
And that dilemma is something that has probably caused more trouble through the years than we realize, at all levels from the personal to the global.
cicero and cato.fucking good guys and their moral high grounds.
Cicero lost his reputation after his arresting of political opponents on the wake of the Catoline Conspiracy...
He also lost support in the Senate as it factionolized, since he refused to take sides early on, isolating him politically amongst his peers.
@@napoleonbonaparteempereurd4676 Cicero's reputation was never higher after the conspiracy - he was voted Father of the a Nation for it. His reputation took a blow thanks to the machinations of Clodius, and again after his notable lack of enthusiasm during the Civil War, but he remained a respected if increasingly impotent figure until right up until his murder.
@@joshcain1032
True. But its also true his reputation took a dive due to the arrests under his rubric.
@@napoleonbonaparteempereurd4676 Certainly true. It didn't help that the executions were quite probably illegal - something Clodius took full advantage of. I think it's fair to say that, following his exile, Cicero remained highly popular in the senate, but his popularity with the urban plebs declined.
It's 1 am, nothing like a good old history lesson :^)
Hey blue I don't know if you'll see this but I just wanted to say thanks for making history more interesting than my school does. Also you're book really got me wanting to look into philosophy so you are just awesome at educating people (most of the time better than actual teachers).
Historia civilus is an amazing channel. And well worth anyone’s time.
I came, i saw, i came
I have to disagree with you and Dante in regards to Brutus, mostly because I believe he was trying to do what he felt was right and was genuinely divided on what he was doing. You can badmouth Cassius all you want, but leave Brutus out of it.
Your videos are a great way to help me study for my history exams AND they’re extremely entertaining! thanks so much
Congratulations on 300,000 subscribers!
Hi blue or red. Can you guys please do more of Egypt mythology things like those Greek gods one? Please,I really wanna learn more about the god of Egypt cuz I’ve already studied most of the ones of Ancient Greek and your videos helped me a lot. Hope you guys see my comment. Thanks
Fun fact. The Roman Empire created such a unique way to make cement that it is even up until today not clearly solved what the ingredients were. The thing they created to build is the strongest and most timeless building material. Our buildings break or fall apart over time. Theirs grow stronger because it acts like a natural ore/mineral. The way of the creation has been lost sadly...
I forgot which documentary I heard this from, but Nero was supposedly the one responsible for that new kind of mortar that they used.
oszaszi I think it had something to do with adding blood
Just as we don't know how Greek Fire was made. We have a lot of good guesses of course, but we don't know.
The secret ingredient was volcanic ash
I'm pretty sure they discovered the recipe recently. Something to do with salt water i believe
Man, Blue's videos just keep getting better!
Love the sunny intro!!!!!! Fixkibg hilarious
Red: "I gotta say, that's a pretty hefty punishment for two dudes whose only crime is stabbing an old guy in a fancy hat."Blue: "Dante put Brutus and Cassius in the lowermost pit of Hell for betraying their protector, and I'm with Dante on this one."Who else is astonished by the differences of their thoughts on the guys that killed Caesar? Like, wow.
Oh my god, I'm actually early...
Hey i love your videos and I was just wondering if you were going to do more clean versions of them. I'm a new English teacher person, teaching high school English. Your videos are great for giving background information for the books, plays, etc, that we read in class. Reds videos are also great as a refresher after we finish reading.
boi did that AoM music near the end fuck me up ahahahha great vid, I just discovered your channel (I've known historia civilis for a long time) and I'm sooooo subscribing, lots of love and keep up the truly awesome work 💜
I agree good sir! Caeser dying is one of the great sad moments of history. Think about this- if caeser would have lived than he would have been able to transfer power peacefully to Octavian- to a fully grown and experienced Octavian, this would have saved Rome at least 3 civil wars. How many lives lost and how much instability came as a result of this betrayal....
Nice. Age of Mythology music.
I absolutely love your usage of the Age of Mythology soundtrack at the end of the video.
This was an excellent video. good job, my dudes.
Hail, Thaethar!
Hello. Weren´t you the guy, who roasted those pigs in the scoruge of god video?
The Rising Theurge If that’s a reference, I’m unfamiliar with it. Of not, please refresh my memory on what video that was.
Jorg the Mercenary Spearman
If it isn't my fwiend, Biggus Dickus.
Thanks for prompting me to look up that conversation on the Scourge of God video again, BTW. It was a blast to reread.
He has a wife, you know.
Omg when I learned this crap in school I hated it u made it so much more interesting.
Historia Civilis's stuff is so good
Congrats on 300k!
Learned more in 15 minutes than in 4 months of roman history in school.
Fun fact: "kaiser" is the correct latin pronunciation of Caesar (early 1900s europe had some big grandieur delusions)
Isn’t that the title of the leader of Germany during world war one?
@@JaelinBezel yes, with heavily germanised spelling, but yes. Tzar is also a russian translation of Caesar.
Thanks for the Historia Civilis recommendation, he really deserves it
Thanks for referring people to Historia Civillis, such a good channel needs more exposure.