@@mestupkid211986 I have say for a British actor Tom Wilkenson got a spot on Easten New York accent since that's where Carmine Falcone was born and raised at
Too few people talk about Scarecrow in this movie. Cillian Murphy nailed it, the role was written really well, and the scene between he and Falcone is incredible.
Crane getting dosed and being interrogated by the Bat-Demon is just about the coolest moment in this franchise and it wouldn't have worked nearly as well if Cillian Murphy weren't so damned good as Crane/Scarecrow
My favourite line of the whole series: Gordon- “I never said thank you” Batman- “and you’ll never have to” True meaning of Batman’s work right there. To accept thanks for his actions would make it personal and selfish like trying to shoot joe chill. From then on you know Batman Carries out justice without discrimination and personal attachment like justice truly should be done. Regardless of thanks or hate, he Carrie’s out his work for the better of the people.
Interesting, I always saw the line differently. Gordon never has to thank Batman because they are fighting the same fight, they have the same end goal. And I always thought of it as Batman saying Gordon is a worthy ally.
The sequel is legendary, but after so much time, Batman Begins is now my favorite because it balances the gritty realism with a comic booky superhero vibe.
Batman has been around since the 30s. In all honesty, as someone whos read his fair share of comics, the movies and tv shows haven't touch all the lore. There are villains and supporting characters that haven't been represented yet.
scarecrow is one of the better villains..hes so interesting with how he analyzes and actually just cares about the human psyche and learning about his profession and victims even as a villian....he just wants knowledge in the end....like a mad scientist which is what hes based off like frankenstein...
@@razkable I just wish for an adaptation that doesn't define him by his fear gas. IMO, it's much scarier if he's the kind of villain that actually turns a person's worst nightmare into reality w/o the hallucinations.
Al-guhl is Arabic for "demon." The star Algol is gets its name from that word. The star is a red-orange variable and visibly changes brightness at irregular intervals. In Greek mythology, Algol is the eye in the head of Medusa being held by Perseus.
@@PhilBagels Actually,"Shaitan" means "Devil","Demon" or "Satan" in Arabic(And Muslims don`t casually throw such evil-connotated terms around anymore than Jews and Christians do,indeed arguably many Middle Easterners and North Africans are even more careful about not doing that than their Western counterparts) , Ross or Rasa means "Head" and "Ghul" simply means "Ogre" or "Spirit"
@@AspieMediaBobby OK. But so what? As I understand it the various cognates of "satan" (whether Arabic or Hebrew or any other language) mean "adversary" or "enemy". I wouldn't be surprised if "ghul" is also etymologically related to "ogre" as well.
Re: The Tumbler (Batmobile). I think the US effects team looked at the designs and said it wasn't possible and that Nolan would have to use CGI instead. The UK effects team said 😐 "hold my tea..." then went ahead and built it 😆
There were seven built in total. Jay Leno featured one on his TH-cam channel and actually drove it. Edit - I would LOVE to see their reaction to watching Jay Leno drive it.
Yeah if I remember correctly, theres a few driveable, theres one for interior filming, and one that was supposedly meant to be jump able, not sure about the last part though
Chris Corbould, who did the production design on all three of these films, is a veteran of the 007 movies; his first big break on the series, after working his way up the ladder in the 80s, was Goldeneye, which has the tank chase scene through St Petersberg. If anyone could make the Tumbler work, it was gonna be him.
Yeah Ra's Al Ghul is in the comics, same with The league of Shadows (Assassins), also Scarecrow is a comic book character as well. And yeah someone actually built the batmobile (bat tank).
The Tumbler is real. The DVD actually shows how they built and tested it. All the stunts it did were also real. Its that good. Even the actor who played Batman wanted it.
Does anyone feel that Batman Begins is almost as good as (dare I say slightly better than) The Dark Knight? The design of Gotham (inspired heavily by Blade Runner which the casting of Rutger Hauer was a nod to) was the best out of the three movies, also thought the Batsuit looked great as a throwback to the classic suits!
Absolutely. Usually it's the first of the trilogy of these superhero movies that are the most comic accurate. The designs and aesthetics of Batman Begins compared to The Dark Knight are comparable to Sam Raimi's Spider-Man 1 compared to Spider-Man 2 in that the first one looks way more like a comic. When doing the first one the filmmakers usually have nothing except the comics to go off, and with the sequel they try to build off that and be more realistic.
I agree. I think people immediately go to TDK because of Ledger's performance (which was fantastic), but I always thought the story was a little underwhelming. But I love the story of Batman Begins and have always thought it was a better movie as a whole.
I agee 100% I love the dark knight but the soundtrack of this movie hits different every time I hear it and it was one my comfort movies I always watch !
I freaking love these movies! Can't wait for you to see the next ones. Especially The Dark Knight. My personal favorite. I had tears of happiness after watching this. I always loved Batman, and this was such a great resurrection of the franchise for me.
All 3 remain as the greatest comic book movies of all time with Dark Knight being the highest point, not least because it is a Joker movie as opposed to a Batman movie, the Joker won and by the end of Rises has removed the Bat, the Mafias and the League of Shadows from Gotham. And all it took was some bullets and a few cans of gasoline.
Yes, they really built that bat tank. Multiple actually. At the time, I was in Chicago when they were filming and it was wild seeing several of them parked on Lower Wacker Drive in the day time and then hearing some very loud noises at night.
Yes, they built that Bat Tank. Nolan conceptualized the design himself, dubbing it "The Tumbler" and then worked with engineers and production designers to build the real-life functional vehicle. While it can't really propel itself into rampless jumps like it does in the movie (nor does it shoot missiles, naturally), it does drive and is actually very fast, which surprised even the designers considering its weight and form. It was also dubbed a "tankini" because its design seems like a cross between a tank and a Lamborghini. You'll also notice that the Tumbler completely lacks a front axel, which is quite unique for any car. Its front two wheels rotate independent of each other. And yes, the sequel is legendarily good.
Christian Bale fact, right before Betman Begins he was working on "The Machinist" and hungered himself down to 55kg for the movie, for Batman Begins he builded up again to 100kg.
and in Nolans image!1st made in clay, then build supersize, shame about sound insulation is bad!listen to the drive with the Tumbler that Jay Leno got here on youtube!
The first version of the Tumbler was made from toy car parts by Nathan Crowley. Crowley was told by Nolan " Something like a Lamborgini mixed with a Humvee ".
This is one of the greatest film trilogies ever. Sure, comic books, but the quality in everything about the films is just top tier. Music, direction, cinematography, sets, costumes, just everything. They are so satisfying to watch. I've watched and loved every single Batman film, even the really bad campy ones. But THIS is the definitive article in my opinion.
In the comics his house is built around the pool of eternal youth which makes him immortal as long as he is not away from it for too long, that is the reference nodded to when Liam Neeson says "supernatural".
Batman is rich with gadgets yes. But he also master escape artist, has learned 127 different martial art styles, 12 different university degrees. That's in the comics that is.
When I first saw this movie, it was as a Blu-Ray that was part of a movie & game bundle when I got my PS3. I had 2 other movies that I got rid of, but I kept Batman Begins. This is the beginning of a great trilogy of movies that DC seems to have forgotten about, every time they reboot Batman on the big screen.
I'm showing my age, but I went on my first date in grade 7 to the Michael Keaton batman. Me and my date were very nervous as one of us spilt the popcorn and the other dropped the drinks. Fortunately the drinks didn't land on either of us and the theater staff was nice enough too replace it all for us. We had a good time.
Awesome I saw this with my dad and friend when I was 10 , I already read a few batman comics but I loved it and the fact that prince did the soundtrack as he is my favorite artist tied with Michael Jackson so it was a very good year for me lol Then I went as batman for our school's Halloween parade that same year in 1989
*sigh* I know I'm asking for trouble here, but clear the chickens off the runway - I'll be the bad guy. As good as The Dark Knight was, is and ever shall be, it's not perfect and pretending that it is has had a stultifying effect on Nolan and cinema more broadly. Batman Begins still at least has some of the character's pulp influence leftover, while TDK, to me, feels cold and sterile - it's a glorified police procedural. We need to move on from thinking it's the apex of superhero movies.
@@AM-kb9cz - perhaps, perhaps not - over time I think I'm probably gonna end up still feeling most personally attached to Begins for various reasons - but that's all relative/subjective.
@@ThreadBomb - that, I'll admit, is how they are most similar. I also disagree with a lot of the people who would normally make the comparison, but there is that to a degree. The difference, I would say, is that Kubrick DOES know enough about the human condition (albeit through a dark lens) to know how to put us in the POV of characters like Alex DeLarge, Jack Torrance and Private Gomer Pyle without us wanting/be able to look away; for all his technical bona fides, the closest Nolan has ever come to something truly Kubrickian was The Prestige, and that has a lot of the deeper character and subtextual stuff baked into the novel already.
Greatest comic book villain portrayal of all time not to mention the accurate portrayal of psychopathy in general. The Joker won BTW, think about it, his actions ended up destroying the Mafias, got rid of the Bat and destroyed the League of Shadows. Not to mention destroying all of the corrupt corporates along the way.
Batman has been around since 1939. The league is called the League of Assassins in the comics. While originally a Batman villain they are also involved with the Green Arrow and a few other heroes. Gotham is a fictional city based on New York and Chicago at night. In the DC comics Version of the United States its In Southern. New Jersey With Metropolis(supermans city) being across the Delaware bay in in Delaware(approximately Wilmington DE) representing the same cities during the day. per the 1977 publication of the World of DC comics, Worlds Finest #259(1979), Batman Shadow of the Bat #1(1993). The Nolan movies filmed in Chicago, Pittsbugh and Toronto. Most DC Heroes live in fictional cities unlike the Marvel heroes who live in real cities.
Not only is the Batmobile (Tumbler) a real vehicle, it's apparently street-legal, as Jay Leno takes it out for a spin at the end of this 12-minute episode of Jay Leno's Garage (although I don't see any license plates!) th-cam.com/video/ydtGew7bWuw/w-d-xo.html
24:50 They built seven Tumblers (that's what they're called) for the series, two of which were driveable. The one used in the freeway wall running scene was so tough that, after it was checked for damage after going through that wall, all it needed were some dents hammered out and a paint job and it was good as new. 5:43 Starbucks? Really? I thought you guys were Canadians! :-D :-D :-D
What I love about the Chris Nolan films is that Batman felt grounded to reality, the villains felt human and believable, and everything felt natural. Nothing felt like it was pushing the norms of the believable. Every villain was human.
My favorite line of this whole movie is Bruce's monologue in the plane with Alfred: "People need dramatic examples to shake them out of apathy, and I can't do that as Bruce Wayne. As a man, I'm flesh and blood; I can be ignored; I can be destroyed, but as a symbol--as a symbol I can be incorruptible. I can be everlasting."
As a kid, Michael Keaton was my Batman, but Bale has definitely done the role some justice. I was a huge fan of _ninja_ and Shaolin monks as a kid, and always thought Batman would probably have been trained in _ninjutsu_ considering the skills and weapons he had. _Batman Begins_ was the realization of a boyhood dream...
This origin story was also solidified for a lot of people in the 90s with Batman the Animated Series. There are several episodes that detail the time as a young man that Bruce walks the world training to become the Batman, learning martial arts in Japan and illusion/slight of hand as the student of a magician.
Gotham is kind of a real city- "Gotham" is a nickname for New York, and Batman's Gotham is partly based on New York, although these movies were mainly filmed in Chicago.
This is the first time I saw a movie in the cinema, came out, bought another ticket and went straight back in to watch it again. It was so amazing to see a comic book Batman well represented on the big screen.
Loved your guys reaction! Can't wait to see you react to The Dark Knight! And yes, Ras Al Ghul (sp? I always misspell his name) is a villain from the comics. Batman was created in 1939 so as you can imagine there have been many many versions and iterations of the character. Lots of lore. But typically Batman does not kill. They really drive that point home in the next movie.
New York City is sometimes referenced as Gotham, but its New York on a really, really bad day. This Bruce Wayne was imprisoned in semi-generic Asia for stealing food. After his first run-in with Falcone, he essentially burned everything he had, except his coat, which he gave to a homeless man, and decided to live the "other life" Falcone mocked him for being unable to understand, the life of the underclass. Its unclear how he got to Asia, or how he contacted Alfred to come get him.
Ra's Al Ghul is a immortal warrior in the 16th century and resurrect himself with the Lazarus pit and Jonathan Crane aka Scarecrow is a maniac that made a fear gas
It's not true to say that Nolan likes to do "practical effects only". He'll use digital effects when they're the best tool for the job. And use practical effects when *they're* the best tool for the job. Don't forget that Interstellar won an Oscar for it's digital VFX. Interestingly, on this film Nolan had the VFX team do a digital recreation of a shot of Batman jumping down a stairwell, so he could gauge the level of realism they were able to produce. When he saw the iconic aerial shot of Batman stood on top of a building, Michael Caine said it was the single best use of CGI he'd ever seen. Thing is, that particular shot *was* done practically; they actually did put a stunt guy up there. 😆
You need to watch the other two. In my opinion this is still the best of the trilogy. Maybe because I've always loved batman comics, had zero expectations apart from thinking the trailer looks decent and was completely blown away. The other two are still brilliant but I was expecting them to be after this.
to answer the question at 10:57, yeah, it's a comic book thing, the only difference is that Nolan changed the name from "League of Assassins" to "League of Shadows". R'as is actually one of Batman's most interesting villains.
The great thing about Nolan's trilogy that few people seem to notice is that his Batman is something of an asshole who constantly creates his own problems, fails to listen to sage advice until after the bad thing they were telling him to avoid happens, and ultimately, despite his genuine desire for altruism, probably should not be doing what he's doing. I mean this as a compliment. This is backed up by other Nolan films like Memento, Insomnia, The Prestige, and Inception, where the protagonist, despite appearing highly competent and well-intentioned, has a questionable subjective point of view. Nolan's protagonists in those films tend to pursue something as a way of running away from another thing - personal guilt over something, an inability to process trauma, to acknowledge their own obsessions, etc. Nolan's Batman is no different, but what keeps people from recognizing this from one film to the next is that Batman is a superhero, so we go into these movies hardwired to trust him. Nolan knows this and slips in some clever clues as to what he really thinks of Batman's crusade. The Joker card at the end of this film implies a pyrrhic victory, the ending of The Dark Knight shows Batman choosing to manufacture a complete lie in order to avoid admitting that The Joker won, and the ending of The Dark Knight Rises loops back around to Batman Begins to imply a huge problem w/ a choice Batman makes at the end of that film (I'll not say what it is and see if anyone else has figured this out).
Chris Nolan : "This story about Batman is going to be grounded in reality, we want people to think that this could happen in real life..." Also Chris Nolan : "So we're gonna start with a billionaire doing hard time and not getting killed."
Agreed. Batman Begins is one of my top 5 superhero movies ever. Ledger's performance is the ONLY thing I remotely like about TDK. I'll never understand how so many people think Begins is an inferior film to TDK.
George says "a family of heroes" Ive come to add a bit about an elseworlds story where bruce died in the alley shooting. His father Thomas becomes a darker batman that uses guns, since he wasnt trained to be a super ninja like bruce was
They actor who played the guy who got strung up by Batman (with the long, curly hair), also played in a movie where his stomach was eaten through by a rat trapped underneath a bucket. He was being interrogated for something. Wish I could remember the name if it. Might have been 2 Fast 2 Furious. He also played "Scars" in The Quick and the Dead, which I didn't realize.
The train never actually made it into Wayne Tower, it crash landed into the parking structure in front of the Tower so only the structure and any cars parked there where destroyed.
The elements of this story were told by DC Comics over decades but never in one single issue. This movie takes some poetic license but is a fairly good telling of the story. I don't think fans were disappointed. The graphic novel "Year One" (and "Year Two") by Frank Miller is a similarly dark origin story.
The tumbler is a real driving vehicle. It was built in great britain and is able to drive 180kph. There are videos on youtube of the engineers building and testing it on public roads
Fantastic movie + reaction! Nolan did an incredible job rebooting Batman in this movie. Now you're ready to see one of the best sequels ever (and IMHO, the best non-Marvel superhero movie), up there with T2 and Aliens :)
Batman is second only to Superman in comic book lifetime. His first appearance was in Detective Comics #27, May 1939. No Gotham is not real but it is most often thought of as like New York.
The League of Shadows and Ra's' Al Ghul is from the Batman Comics during the Denny ONeal and Neal Adams period in the early 70's. Batman was created in 1939 by Bob Kane and Bill Finger.
Fun fact: the board member that goes 'we'll be watching your empire for you, young Bruce'. is legendary Dutch actor Rutger Hauer (Roy Batty from Bladerunner, Sin City, Hobo With a Shotgun, etc. ) Great cameo! Sadly he passed away, as did Tom Wilkinson recently (Falcone).
a little Trivia, the child in red who was where the horse was breathing fire, is the same actor that played King Geoffrey Baratheon in Game of Thrones.
Yes they did actually build the Batmobile for real. They went to a lot of companies and they said it can't be done. However a British company said yes we can do it. So they built a fully functional Batmobile including fames out of the back. I love this trilogy so much and now I can't wait for The Dark Knight.
Note the little kid who sees Batman on the fire escape, and exclaims the other kids won’t believe him when he tells them that he saw Batman. Batman then throws his little periscope at him as a gift. That little boy is now known as king Joffrey, from Game of Thrones
In the comics, Ra's al-Ghul is basically an immortal (slowed aging and longevity). He knows who Batman is through the powers of deduction but refuses to divulge that information because he actually respects Batman so much, that he refers to him as "The Detective" and tried to talk Batman into their becoming his successor in the League of Shadows. While Liam Neeson was a solid pick for RAG, I was expecting someone of Asian origin to play him to reflect the comic book lore.
The Nolan trilogy, not just brilliant superhero films, but truly great films regardless of the genre. Get ready for the ride as they get even better after this sublime origin story.
Batman has been around since the very late '30s (1939.) The League of Assassins (called The League Of Shadows here) first appeared in 1968. As far as I know, they had no role in the origin story of Batman in the comics. That relationship was created specifically for the films. (I could be wrong, as I'm definitely not a good Batman historian.) Frank Miller has said that "Metropolis is New York in the daytime, Gotham is New York at night." In real life, "Gotham" has been a nickname for NYC for many years.
Yeah, the League of Shadows is from the comics, only in the comics it's usually named the League of Assassins. They changed it here because it wouldn't have made much sense for this version of Bruce to join a group with "assassins" in their name. Ra's Al Ghul is one of Batman's classic archenemies in the comics and a bit of a departure from most of his classic enemies because he's actually a lot like Batman himself. He's very smart, rational, driven, skilled in hand-to-hand fighting and many other things and, well, obscenely rich. As for Gotham, it's usually portrayed as a bit of an amalgam of Chicago and New York.
I got to see the tumbler in person at a nascar race back during the promotions of this movie. Fun fact, it was actually electric, so it was nearly completely silent. The sounds its tires made on the pavement were louder than it's engine. Makes sense though, having a silent vehicle on set is a very smart choice.
So the League is a fundamental part of comics Lore, for Batman and adjacent properties. One of the primary differences between DC and Marvel is that Marvel takes place in real cities and DC takes place in analogous cities. Gotham isn’t real, it’s an amalgamation of semblances of real, but Peter Parker exists in New York.
That moment when Scarecrow hits Falcone with a dose of his hallucinogenic was absolutely INSANE to watch in a theater. :D
I was just thinking the same thing
@@mestupkid211986 I have say for a British actor Tom Wilkenson got a spot on Easten New York accent since that's where Carmine Falcone was born and raised at
@@Chuck_EL That is true. but Tom is a fantastic actor all around.
Too few people talk about Scarecrow in this movie. Cillian Murphy nailed it, the role was written really well, and the scene between he and Falcone is incredible.
Good call! Absolutely true.
There needs to be a Batman film where Scarecrow's the main villain.
Cillian is among the 5 actors to appear in all 3 films, along with Bale, Caine, Freeman, and Oldman.
Crane getting dosed and being interrogated by the Bat-Demon is just about the coolest moment in this franchise and it wouldn't have worked nearly as well if Cillian Murphy weren't so damned good as Crane/Scarecrow
My favourite line of the whole series:
Gordon- “I never said thank you”
Batman- “and you’ll never have to”
True meaning of Batman’s work right there. To accept thanks for his actions would make it personal and selfish like trying to shoot joe chill. From then on you know Batman Carries out justice without discrimination and personal attachment like justice truly should be done. Regardless of thanks or hate, he Carrie’s out his work for the better of the people.
batman can defeat darkseid but can not beat joker..makes sense...
Interesting, I always saw the line differently. Gordon never has to thank Batman because they are fighting the same fight, they have the same end goal. And I always thought of it as Batman saying Gordon is a worthy ally.
I prefer TDKR - "I may not get the chance [to thank you] later."
That final exchange solidified the movie for me. The Dark Knight may be the better, but Batman Begins has been my favorite since 2005.
Jim Gordon's escalation bit just before that was stolen by the MCU and used by Vision in Civil War, just saying.
The sequel is legendary, but after so much time, Batman Begins is now my favorite because it balances the gritty realism with a comic booky superhero vibe.
I couldn't agree more. For years TDK was My favorite comic book movie ever but Now I think Begins was the better more rounded movie.
It took me years to appreciate this. But rewatching it and watching so many superhero movies, I realized how it's so much better.
@@chinaski6593 same
Imo Batman begins is better than TDK in terms of a superhero movie
TDK was better as a movie tho
There are a lot of good Batman movies and Batman portrayals, but I'd say Batman Begins is the best Bruce Wayne story.
Yeah the sequel is great but I have a soft spot for this because how good it was and I was expecting it to suck.
I always gets goosebumps when I see that shot of Batman standing like a gargoyle on that building. So epic. "The watchful guardian"
They really stood a guy up on that building with a harness to get the shot. So worth it, one of the most iconic images in the movie.
The Sears Tower in Chicago iirc
*grotesque, not gargoyle (I don't like my pedantry, either, for what it's worth; it's mostly involuntary).
@@PT82 its First United Methodist Church in the Loop
I always imagine him trudging up the stairs for hours in his full costume 😂
Cillian Murphy is probably my favorite actor. Such an incredible performance as Scarecrow!
*Cinemawins voice:* Cillian Murphy is always a win!
He's a beautiful man too.
@@BJBee you're absolutely correct
It was funny when not so long ago an oldtimer called him Young man and he said: "I take it!" :)
Batman has been around since the 30s. In all honesty, as someone whos read his fair share of comics, the movies and tv shows haven't touch all the lore. There are villains and supporting characters that haven't been represented yet.
Not even in the Lego Batman Movie where they list all the villains including the ridiculous ones from the '60s show?
We need the Condiment King!
scarecrow is one of the better villains..hes so interesting with how he analyzes and actually just cares about the human psyche and learning about his profession and victims even as a villian....he just wants knowledge in the end....like a mad scientist which is what hes based off like frankenstein...
@@razkable I just wish for an adaptation that doesn't define him by his fear gas. IMO, it's much scarier if he's the kind of villain that actually turns a person's worst nightmare into reality w/o the hallucinations.
Exactly
Al-guhl is Arabic for "demon." The star Algol is gets its name from that word. The star is a red-orange variable and visibly changes brightness at irregular intervals. In Greek mythology, Algol is the eye in the head of Medusa being held by Perseus.
Nice to bump into a fellow astronomer.
"Ras-al-gul" means "head of the demon". And yes, "gul" is etymologically related to the word "ghoul".
@@PhilBagels Actually,"Shaitan" means "Devil","Demon" or "Satan" in Arabic(And Muslims don`t casually throw such evil-connotated terms around anymore than Jews and Christians do,indeed arguably many Middle Easterners and North Africans are even more careful about not doing that than their Western counterparts) , Ross or Rasa means "Head" and
"Ghul" simply means "Ogre" or "Spirit"
@@AspieMediaBobby OK. But so what?
As I understand it the various cognates of "satan" (whether Arabic or Hebrew or any other language) mean "adversary" or "enemy".
I wouldn't be surprised if "ghul" is also etymologically related to "ogre" as well.
Demon's Head.
Re: The Tumbler (Batmobile). I think the US effects team looked at the designs and said it wasn't possible and that Nolan would have to use CGI instead.
The UK effects team said 😐 "hold my tea..." then went ahead and built it 😆
I've heard it's got a small block Chevy 350, both in fact as well as lore. My truck has the same engine as the Batmobile!
There were seven built in total. Jay Leno featured one on his TH-cam channel and actually drove it.
Edit - I would LOVE to see their reaction to watching Jay Leno drive it.
yup was an awsome sight at pinewood us uk folk said bugger that we will build a car
Yeah if I remember correctly, theres a few driveable, theres one for interior filming, and one that was supposedly meant to be jump able, not sure about the last part though
Chris Corbould, who did the production design on all three of these films, is a veteran of the 007 movies; his first big break on the series, after working his way up the ladder in the 80s, was Goldeneye, which has the tank chase scene through St Petersberg. If anyone could make the Tumbler work, it was gonna be him.
Credit to Simone for busting out the Michael Keaton knowledge with "Clean and Sober"!!!!
Is he tho?
All Keaton fans should try to see him in My Life, 1993.
I'm of a certain age, so my first Michael Keaton movie was "Night Shift."
Michael Caine added so much depth to Alfred that I never got from any other actor playing him. especially in the 3rd. you'll see it.
@@lukeskywalker6809 I knew... that.... thnx
@@lukeskywalker6809
He was just thinking about Batman creator Bob Kane
@@lukeskywalker6809 there. i just did.
@@kingscorpion7346 in all the batman films, I'll say Alfred was done perfectly by everyone who portrayed him
"Michael Keaton..." "I'm trying to remember who that is..." oh man, my heart cries...
- oh, he's "the vulture"- ........ /sigh
The girl is like 12
Too young
I'm so glad you're reacting to Nolan's filmography. Please consider to add _Memento_ to your roster!
@@lukeskywalker6809 The Prestige is my personal favorite of Nolan’s filmography
Write it down somewhere though in case you forget...
@@AlasdairGR
The Prestige is a magnificent film.
Yeah Ra's Al Ghul is in the comics, same with The league of Shadows (Assassins), also Scarecrow is a comic book character as well. And yeah someone actually built the batmobile (bat tank).
and bruce's love of gotham because of his parents work to fix it which is why it matters so much to him
Dr. Jonathan Crane, the guy declaring everyone insane, is the comic villain Scarecrow, known for inducing insanity-level fear into his victims.
The Tumbler is real. The DVD actually shows how they built and tested it. All the stunts it did were also real. Its that good. Even the actor who played Batman wanted it.
Does anyone feel that Batman Begins is almost as good as (dare I say slightly better than) The Dark Knight?
The design of Gotham (inspired heavily by Blade Runner which the casting of Rutger Hauer was a nod to) was the best out of the three movies, also thought the Batsuit looked great as a throwback to the classic suits!
I'm with you! I'm a bigger fan of Batman Begins. I love the trilogy as a whole, but I've always felt this way.
Absolutely. Usually it's the first of the trilogy of these superhero movies that are the most comic accurate. The designs and aesthetics of Batman Begins compared to The Dark Knight are comparable to Sam Raimi's Spider-Man 1 compared to Spider-Man 2 in that the first one looks way more like a comic.
When doing the first one the filmmakers usually have nothing except the comics to go off, and with the sequel they try to build off that and be more realistic.
I agree. I think people immediately go to TDK because of Ledger's performance (which was fantastic), but I always thought the story was a little underwhelming. But I love the story of Batman Begins and have always thought it was a better movie as a whole.
Same
Batman Begins is better imo
I agee 100% I love the dark knight but the soundtrack of this movie hits different every time I hear it and it was one my comfort movies I always watch !
Frank Miller once said "Metropolis is New York in the Day, Gotham is New York at night".
This trilogy will always have a special place in my heart. It kind of reignited my love of DC Comics.
I freaking love these movies! Can't wait for you to see the next ones. Especially The Dark Knight. My personal favorite. I had tears of happiness after watching this. I always loved Batman, and this was such a great resurrection of the franchise for me.
All 3 remain as the greatest comic book movies of all time with Dark Knight being the highest point, not least because it is a Joker movie as opposed to a Batman movie, the Joker won and by the end of Rises has removed the Bat, the Mafias and the League of Shadows from Gotham. And all it took was some bullets and a few cans of gasoline.
Yes, they really built that bat tank. Multiple actually. At the time, I was in Chicago when they were filming and it was wild seeing several of them parked on Lower Wacker Drive in the day time and then hearing some very loud noises at night.
Yes, they built that Bat Tank. Nolan conceptualized the design himself, dubbing it "The Tumbler" and then worked with engineers and production designers to build the real-life functional vehicle. While it can't really propel itself into rampless jumps like it does in the movie (nor does it shoot missiles, naturally), it does drive and is actually very fast, which surprised even the designers considering its weight and form. It was also dubbed a "tankini" because its design seems like a cross between a tank and a Lamborghini. You'll also notice that the Tumbler completely lacks a front axel, which is quite unique for any car. Its front two wheels rotate independent of each other.
And yes, the sequel is legendarily good.
Christian Bale fact, right before Betman Begins he was working on "The Machinist" and hungered himself down to 55kg for the movie, for Batman Begins he builded up again to 100kg.
The Tumbler was actually built from the ground up… in Nolan’s garage.
and in Nolans image!1st made in clay, then build supersize, shame about sound insulation is bad!listen to the drive with the Tumbler that Jay Leno got here on youtube!
The first version of the Tumbler was made from toy car parts by Nathan Crowley.
Crowley was told by Nolan " Something like a Lamborgini mixed with a Humvee ".
This is one of the greatest film trilogies ever. Sure, comic books, but the quality in everything about the films is just top tier. Music, direction, cinematography, sets, costumes, just everything. They are so satisfying to watch. I've watched and loved every single Batman film, even the really bad campy ones. But THIS is the definitive article in my opinion.
The Bat Mobile (Tumbler) was 100% a real practical vehicle. Look for the behind the scenes of the film.
Did anybody already told you that Mr.Earle, the guy that missed the memo, was actually Rutger Hauer who played Roy Batty in Blade Runner?
Love your channel, only discovered it recently. This is one of my favorite trilogies ever, excited you guys get to enjoy it!
hate how they talk over iconic lines...gotham must be destroyed and you always fear what you don't understand
"Ras Al Ghul, like .. a ghoul? He's undead?"
*H A*
In the comics his house is built around the pool of eternal youth which makes him immortal as long as he is not away from it for too long, that is the reference nodded to when Liam Neeson says "supernatural".
@@darthwiizius it’s built around a Lazarus Pit. He has several strongholds as such around the world.
Batman is rich with gadgets yes. But he also master escape artist, has learned 127 different martial art styles, 12 different university degrees. That's in the comics that is.
He also passed every FBI Exam thrown at him with flying colors save for the gun handling portion.
While I love all the movies in the trilogy, this one will forever remain my favourite.
I thought that I was the only fan who feels this way
When I first saw this movie, it was as a Blu-Ray that was part of a movie & game bundle when I got my PS3. I had 2 other movies that I got rid of, but I kept Batman Begins. This is the beginning of a great trilogy of movies that DC seems to have forgotten about, every time they reboot Batman on the big screen.
I'm showing my age, but I went on my first date in grade 7 to the Michael Keaton batman. Me and my date were very nervous as one of us spilt the popcorn and the other dropped the drinks. Fortunately the drinks didn't land on either of us and the theater staff was nice enough too replace it all for us. We had a good time.
Awesome I saw this with my dad and friend when I was 10 , I already read a few batman comics but I loved it and the fact that prince did the soundtrack as he is my favorite artist tied with Michael Jackson so it was a very good year for me lol
Then I went as batman for our school's Halloween parade that same year in 1989
Christopher Nolan's take on batman is so epic and dark Christian Bale fills the role perfectly also the batmobile is crazy.
Oooooh the next one is the best by far. Can't wait to see that reaction
One of the top acting in the last 20 years, can't wait to see that reaction either.
*sigh* I know I'm asking for trouble here, but clear the chickens off the runway - I'll be the bad guy.
As good as The Dark Knight was, is and ever shall be, it's not perfect and pretending that it is has had a stultifying effect on Nolan and cinema more broadly. Batman Begins still at least has some of the character's pulp influence leftover, while TDK, to me, feels cold and sterile - it's a glorified police procedural. We need to move on from thinking it's the apex of superhero movies.
@@radicaladz I meant the best of the trilogy
@@AM-kb9cz - perhaps, perhaps not - over time I think I'm probably gonna end up still feeling most personally attached to Begins for various reasons - but that's all relative/subjective.
@@ThreadBomb - that, I'll admit, is how they are most similar. I also disagree with a lot of the people who would normally make the comparison, but there is that to a degree. The difference, I would say, is that Kubrick DOES know enough about the human condition (albeit through a dark lens) to know how to put us in the POV of characters like Alex DeLarge, Jack Torrance and Private Gomer Pyle without us wanting/be able to look away; for all his technical bona fides, the closest Nolan has ever come to something truly Kubrickian was The Prestige, and that has a lot of the deeper character and subtextual stuff baked into the novel already.
I can't wait to see the react to Dark Knight...Heath Ledger is going to blow their minds. 🤯💯😁
Greatest comic book villain portrayal of all time not to mention the accurate portrayal of psychopathy in general. The Joker won BTW, think about it, his actions ended up destroying the Mafias, got rid of the Bat and destroyed the League of Shadows. Not to mention destroying all of the corrupt corporates along the way.
24:45 the design for the batmobile was an Hummer and a lamborghini that they designed around the two model sets then made it so
You guys are going to LOVE the next movie!
You guys are in for a real treat next movie. One of the best movies of all time. Not just for superhero movies, of which it is the best.
Batman has been around since 1939.
The league is called the League of Assassins in the comics. While originally a Batman villain they are also involved with the Green Arrow and a few other heroes.
Gotham is a fictional city based on New York and Chicago at night. In the DC comics Version of the United States its In Southern. New Jersey With Metropolis(supermans city) being across the Delaware bay in in Delaware(approximately Wilmington DE) representing the same cities during the day. per the 1977 publication of the World of DC comics, Worlds Finest #259(1979), Batman Shadow of the Bat #1(1993). The Nolan movies filmed in Chicago, Pittsbugh and Toronto. Most DC Heroes live in fictional cities unlike the Marvel heroes who live in real cities.
Not only is the Batmobile (Tumbler) a real vehicle, it's apparently street-legal, as Jay Leno takes it out for a spin at the end of this 12-minute episode of Jay Leno's Garage (although I don't see any license plates!)
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I love that Simone has a Chet Baker poster on the wall.
One of my biggest brushes with fame was buying Chet Baker a drink between sets at a little bar he played at.
24:50 They built seven Tumblers (that's what they're called) for the series, two of which were driveable. The one used in the freeway wall running scene was so tough that, after it was checked for damage after going through that wall, all it needed were some dents hammered out and a paint job and it was good as new.
5:43 Starbucks? Really? I thought you guys were Canadians! :-D :-D :-D
I heard Tim Horton’s has gone downhill since they changed suppliers
@@ZacCostilla Ah. That might explain it, then.
What I love about the Chris Nolan films is that Batman felt grounded to reality, the villains felt human and believable, and everything felt natural. Nothing felt like it was pushing the norms of the believable. Every villain was human.
My favorite line of this whole movie is Bruce's monologue in the plane with Alfred: "People need dramatic examples to shake them out of apathy, and I can't do that as Bruce Wayne. As a man, I'm flesh and blood; I can be ignored; I can be destroyed, but as a symbol--as a symbol I can be incorruptible. I can be everlasting."
League of shadows is in the comic but its called league of assassins. They train all kind of assassins for hire.
SO many great lines in this movie!
I think MY favorite was "Well? You seem to have taken my lessons about theatricality at bit . . . .LITERALLY." LMAO
As a kid, Michael Keaton was my Batman, but Bale has definitely done the role some justice. I was a huge fan of _ninja_ and Shaolin monks as a kid, and always thought Batman would probably have been trained in _ninjutsu_ considering the skills and weapons he had. _Batman Begins_ was the realization of a boyhood dream...
This origin story was also solidified for a lot of people in the 90s with Batman the Animated Series. There are several episodes that detail the time as a young man that Bruce walks the world training to become the Batman, learning martial arts in Japan and illusion/slight of hand as the student of a magician.
Gotham is kind of a real city- "Gotham" is a nickname for New York, and Batman's Gotham is partly based on New York, although these movies were mainly filmed in Chicago.
Did you notice the little boy shown a few times is a very young Jack Gleeson(Joffrey from Game of Thrones)
This is the first time I saw a movie in the cinema, came out, bought another ticket and went straight back in to watch it again. It was so amazing to see a comic book Batman well represented on the big screen.
So excited you start this trilogy!
"A family of heroes, for generations"
It is a common element in Batman lore, that the Waynes have de la Vegases (AKA Zorro) in their family tree.
Morgan Freeman's Lucius feels like the retirement job Red from The Shawshank Redemption deserved
Wow so glad you guys start this trilogy, is a masterpiece
Loved your guys reaction! Can't wait to see you react to The Dark Knight! And yes, Ras Al Ghul (sp? I always misspell his name) is a villain from the comics. Batman was created in 1939 so as you can imagine there have been many many versions and iterations of the character. Lots of lore. But typically Batman does not kill. They really drive that point home in the next movie.
This Batman doesn't kill. But in the early comics, Batman used a gun, and the Michael Keaton Batman killed a number of people.
New York City is sometimes referenced as Gotham, but its New York on a really, really bad day. This Bruce Wayne was imprisoned in semi-generic Asia for stealing food. After his first run-in with Falcone, he essentially burned everything he had, except his coat, which he gave to a homeless man, and decided to live the "other life" Falcone mocked him for being unable to understand, the life of the underclass. Its unclear how he got to Asia, or how he contacted Alfred to come get him.
Ra's Al Ghul is a immortal warrior in the 16th century and resurrect himself with the Lazarus pit and Jonathan Crane aka Scarecrow is a maniac that made a fear gas
It's not true to say that Nolan likes to do "practical effects only". He'll use digital effects when they're the best tool for the job. And use practical effects when *they're* the best tool for the job.
Don't forget that Interstellar won an Oscar for it's digital VFX.
Interestingly, on this film Nolan had the VFX team do a digital recreation of a shot of Batman jumping down a stairwell, so he could gauge the level of realism they were able to produce.
When he saw the iconic aerial shot of Batman stood on top of a building, Michael Caine said it was the single best use of CGI he'd ever seen.
Thing is, that particular shot *was* done practically; they actually did put a stunt guy up there. 😆
Yep the tumbler is real. They build a few of the working cars.
You need to watch the other two. In my opinion this is still the best of the trilogy. Maybe because I've always loved batman comics, had zero expectations apart from thinking the trailer looks decent and was completely blown away. The other two are still brilliant but I was expecting them to be after this.
Batman's 1st ever appearance was in Detective Comics (DC) #27 on March 30th, 1939. Almost 83 years ago.
to answer the question at 10:57, yeah, it's a comic book thing, the only difference is that Nolan changed the name from "League of Assassins" to "League of Shadows". R'as is actually one of Batman's most interesting villains.
The great thing about Nolan's trilogy that few people seem to notice is that his Batman is something of an asshole who constantly creates his own problems, fails to listen to sage advice until after the bad thing they were telling him to avoid happens, and ultimately, despite his genuine desire for altruism, probably should not be doing what he's doing. I mean this as a compliment.
This is backed up by other Nolan films like Memento, Insomnia, The Prestige, and Inception, where the protagonist, despite appearing highly competent and well-intentioned, has a questionable subjective point of view. Nolan's protagonists in those films tend to pursue something as a way of running away from another thing - personal guilt over something, an inability to process trauma, to acknowledge their own obsessions, etc.
Nolan's Batman is no different, but what keeps people from recognizing this from one film to the next is that Batman is a superhero, so we go into these movies hardwired to trust him. Nolan knows this and slips in some clever clues as to what he really thinks of Batman's crusade. The Joker card at the end of this film implies a pyrrhic victory, the ending of The Dark Knight shows Batman choosing to manufacture a complete lie in order to avoid admitting that The Joker won, and the ending of The Dark Knight Rises loops back around to Batman Begins to imply a huge problem w/ a choice Batman makes at the end of that film (I'll not say what it is and see if anyone else has figured this out).
Chris Nolan : "This story about Batman is going to be grounded in reality, we want people to think that this could happen in real life..."
Also Chris Nolan : "So we're gonna start with a billionaire doing hard time and not getting killed."
I actually think Begins is the best Batman film of the trilogy. Ledger is great in TDK but I prefer the narrative and comic book story beats of BB.
Agreed. Batman Begins is one of my top 5 superhero movies ever. Ledger's performance is the ONLY thing I remotely like about TDK. I'll never understand how so many people think Begins is an inferior film to TDK.
That batmobile isn't only a real vehicle, it was pace car at a NASCAR race. And yes it performed all of the stunts in the movie.
George says "a family of heroes" Ive come to add a bit about an elseworlds story where bruce died in the alley shooting. His father Thomas becomes a darker batman that uses guns, since he wasnt trained to be a super ninja like bruce was
They actor who played the guy who got strung up by Batman (with the long, curly hair), also played in a movie where his stomach was eaten through by a rat trapped underneath a bucket. He was being interrogated for something. Wish I could remember the name if it. Might have been 2 Fast 2 Furious. He also played "Scars" in The Quick and the Dead, which I didn't realize.
The train never actually made it into Wayne Tower, it crash landed into the parking structure in front of the Tower so only the structure and any cars parked there where destroyed.
The elements of this story were told by DC Comics over decades but never in one single issue. This movie takes some poetic license but is a fairly good telling of the story. I don't think fans were disappointed. The graphic novel "Year One" (and "Year Two") by Frank Miller is a similarly dark origin story.
The tumbler is a real driving vehicle. It was built in great britain and is able to drive 180kph. There are videos on youtube of the engineers building and testing it on public roads
Fantastic movie + reaction! Nolan did an incredible job rebooting Batman in this movie.
Now you're ready to see one of the best sequels ever (and IMHO, the best non-Marvel superhero movie), up there with T2 and Aliens :)
Batman is second only to Superman in comic book lifetime. His first appearance was in Detective Comics #27, May 1939. No Gotham is not real but it is most often thought of as like New York.
Practical effects mean quarter-scale miniature work with the Bat Mobile hopping roofs and explosions, etc.
So, the question is...Does Simone still think Michael Keaton is a better Batman?
Cilian Murphy was considered for the role of Batman and lost to Christian. But he was so good that they put him as Scarecrow and expanded his role.
The League of Shadows and Ra's' Al Ghul is from the Batman Comics during the Denny ONeal and Neal Adams period in the early 70's. Batman was created in 1939 by Bob Kane and Bill Finger.
Fun fact: the board member that goes 'we'll be watching your empire for you, young Bruce'. is legendary Dutch actor Rutger Hauer (Roy Batty from Bladerunner, Sin City, Hobo With a Shotgun, etc. ) Great cameo! Sadly he passed away, as did Tom Wilkinson recently (Falcone).
"How long has Batman been around?"
The character debuted in Detective Comics-now known as DC-in 1939.
a little Trivia, the child in red who was where the horse was breathing fire, is the same actor that played King Geoffrey Baratheon in Game of Thrones.
This is my favorite trilogy of all time. The second one in particular is my favorite movie ever
She said before the movie Michael Keaton was her Batman , I wonder if she changed her mind.
Yes they did actually build the Batmobile for real. They went to a lot of companies and they said it can't be done. However a British company said yes we can do it. So they built a fully functional Batmobile including fames out of the back. I love this trilogy so much and now I can't wait for The Dark Knight.
The fact that you knew Keaton was in Clean and Sober has raised my respect for you. Bigger fan than ever now.
27:07 Ra's is referring to Bruce leaving the decoy to die in his house as it burned.
Yes, league of shadows is a comic book thing tho with some differences if I remember correctly
Note the little kid who sees Batman on the fire escape, and exclaims the other kids won’t believe him when he tells them that he saw Batman. Batman then throws his little periscope at him as a gift. That little boy is now known as king Joffrey, from Game of Thrones
Yes, they really did build the Batmobile, It has a V10 from a Corvette.
They did build the bat mobile & the bat bike. They also made 1/3 scalp R/C model bat models
In the comics, Ra's al-Ghul is basically an immortal (slowed aging and longevity). He knows who Batman is through the powers of deduction but refuses to divulge that information because he actually respects Batman so much, that he refers to him as "The Detective" and tried to talk Batman into their becoming his successor in the League of Shadows.
While Liam Neeson was a solid pick for RAG, I was expecting someone of Asian origin to play him to reflect the comic book lore.
The Nolan trilogy, not just brilliant superhero films, but truly great films regardless of the genre. Get ready for the ride as they get even better after this sublime origin story.
Batman has been around since the very late '30s (1939.) The League of Assassins (called The League Of Shadows here) first appeared in 1968. As far as I know, they had no role in the origin story of Batman in the comics. That relationship was created specifically for the films. (I could be wrong, as I'm definitely not a good Batman historian.)
Frank Miller has said that "Metropolis is New York in the daytime, Gotham is New York at night." In real life, "Gotham" has been a nickname for NYC for many years.
Yeah, the League of Shadows is from the comics, only in the comics it's usually named the League of Assassins. They changed it here because it wouldn't have made much sense for this version of Bruce to join a group with "assassins" in their name. Ra's Al Ghul is one of Batman's classic archenemies in the comics and a bit of a departure from most of his classic enemies because he's actually a lot like Batman himself. He's very smart, rational, driven, skilled in hand-to-hand fighting and many other things and, well, obscenely rich. As for Gotham, it's usually portrayed as a bit of an amalgam of Chicago and New York.
Yes: Tumbler was real... Actually 3 different ones for different scenes
I got to see the tumbler in person at a nascar race back during the promotions of this movie. Fun fact, it was actually electric, so it was nearly completely silent. The sounds its tires made on the pavement were louder than it's engine. Makes sense though, having a silent vehicle on set is a very smart choice.
Also to answer your question the League of shadows had a hand in training multiple Hero’s and Villains the most notable were Green Arrow and Batman.
Yes the tumbler was made to do a lot of real world stunts bar flying on roof tops of course 😂
That masked villain is Scarecrow, he has a live action origin story in the DC Show "Gotham"
So the League is a fundamental part of comics Lore, for Batman and adjacent properties.
One of the primary differences between DC and Marvel is that Marvel takes place in real cities and DC takes place in analogous cities. Gotham isn’t real, it’s an amalgamation of semblances of real, but Peter Parker exists in New York.