Electric Fleet Vehicle Expo Full Tour! All Of The EVs / Chargers At ACT 2024
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- Kyle and Jordan take you on a tour of the companies on display at ACT Expo (Advanced Clean Transportation). It was SO huge this year, we couldn't even feature all the companies in this tour. But if you see a company you're interested in, let us know and we can try to set up some dedicated coverage!
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Thanks for stopping by the Alpitronic booth and having me on! Be sure to play with the configuration tool on our website and make a charger like you could a PTS Porsche!
(BTW, we’re hiring too!)
I missed you at the show! 😅
@@VictorAtlasman I was a moving target 😅
Seeing Brandon on here: what is this? A crossover episode? 😁
Thank you @Out of Spec for stopping by WattEV's booth and for having me on. ⚡FULL SEND⚡
So, Victor, what happened to NXU? Did you leave, did they sale the patents to WattEV, did NXU continued to drift off investors to keep their salaries going while selling megawatt patents to WattEV? The WattEV site looks awfully close to what NXU kept advertising they were going to do.
@@crilako Hi 👋 Yes I left, as they're "engaged in strategic alternatives". No patents sold or anything related (to my knowledge), as WattEV is focused on higher power charging and deployments focused on the heavy duty market. I'm proud to be a part of the WattEV and Charge America team as there's a lot of development that is going to accelerate MCS beyond what any other company is doing. ⚡I'll try to make some content that's educational and interesting for people to watch. Let me know if there's anything you want to learn or see. 🤔
@@VictorAtlasman you're also a good communicator so I'm glad you're going to produce video content. I think it would be greatto see updates on the site progress and on new WattEV site proyects tha the NEVI is supporting. Thanks!
Hell yeah brother
@@VictorAtlasman As always good at selling BS to investors.
Thank you for stopping by DG Matrix, that was outstanding
Amazing to see all the developments in charging
These walk around videos are really great. 😊
Your videos are so chill, always brightens my day
Can’t wait for my utility bucket truck to go electric. The noise alone hits 95 decibels and we work 3 am would be nice to all the people trying to sleep. Then have optimize were the batteries out of the way. Then have where the drive shaft used to be for our 11’ hot sticks and our long shovels for digging deep holes.
A Edison Motors type of approach would be okay for me. Diesel while driving and electric while chilling and PTO stuff.
Freedom units? You really need to rethink that and if you don’t know what Fluke is turn in your geek card.
I know right!! I was like wtf he doesn’t know Fluke lol
@@Quickicecarreviews123 If it works, it's a Fluke. Best slogan ever!
I was like how do you not know Fluke!? He's out here naming random brands I've never heard of but doesn't recognize one of the biggest ones 😂
Yehehe
52:18 Chargepoint's Hugh Jackman
That’s true 😂
#LOGAN
“We’re getting to school real quick today..” Mr. Conner will be providing a Physics lecture/lab on Centripetal force and friction today on the way into school.
People need to know that a diesel truck polutes 15 times more than an ice car. We need to change as fast as we can.
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So many exciting things happening in electric mobility, thanks for stopping by Kyle! ⚡🧡
23:36, Ryder provides trucks to companies for a service so the company does not need to manage repairs and service it is all handled by Ryder and they also provide roadside service... So think of it as Fleet as a Service.
yup "Truck as a Service" is already a "thing". ref: Ryder, Penske, Bentley, Martin Brower, etc.
I don’t think anyone has a clue yet how revolutionary semi trailers with powered axles will be. It will make the truck safer and more stable on the highway and will all but eliminate chaining up in the mountains.
Well said! Allows for additional regen going down steep declines, BMW says over 40% gain in driving efficency on diesels it trialled them with.
So ev semis could gain even more especially in mixed use city or traffic driving. Then it could allow for a 300 mile cheaper tesla semi to do 450-500! Opening up new opportunities for those who couldn't spend another 50k+for the top spec semi.
Less weight to so more possible cargo carrying. Top tesla semi is 23,000# base is less at 21,000#
Also it could push the 500 miler out to near 750-800 miles. Ad built in thin solar to the roof&eliminating diesel reefers=much cleaner quieter cooler air for everyone and cheaper cost of goods moved=cheaper products for consumers! Easier on drivers=win win win.👍🏻😎
Chaining up still matters. Trailers have had brakes forever yet chains are still necessary.
@@BillyONeal It does, but if ALL of your wheels are helping to propel the truck (and they're all traction-controlled) you'll eliminate most of the instances where you NEED chains. No, maybe not all, but MUCH less often
@Thunderbuck again, all wheels already brake and chains are still needed just for braking. All wheels being powered only helps keep the drive wheels from spinning. Thinking all wheel drive fixes traction completely is an extremely common misconception
@@BillyONeal With powered axles the motors actively slow the vehicle like a Jake Break x 1000. Unless you’ve actually driven an EV on ice you have no clue how effective it is.
1:07:48 - that's the Watt EV CEO Salim Youssefzadeh (hopefully i spelled that right) in the white shirt/blue blazer in the background. got to meet with him briefly after his 15 minute presentation around mid-day on Wednesday. says he's got plans for the East Coast, specifically electrifying the Port Newark/NY/NJ (which makes the most sense).
That's right! Let me know if there's anything you want to see, or learn about. We'll post some info videos on our page.
@@VictorAtlasman re: "Let me know if there's anything you want to see, or learn about." A: Medium Duty Power and those Solid State Transformers you spoke of not to put too fine a point on it...🤙
in the meantime, i'm going to be running that by my contact at the local Utility over in NJ to see what he knows.
@@phillyphil1513 You got it. As I head out to the sites and our labs, I'll document and present what I can.
That stop to the Raleigh NC based solution was super fortuitous! I’m Raleigh and in the midst of trying to find the best charging solution for 10+ vehicles in a retail setting and would love to hear what you think is best.
Will have to scroll back thru the video to find that name.
Honestly, Alpitronic is so far ahead everyone else, also their reliability is excellent
These walk around videos are really awesome))
The ChargePoint guy was the highlight of this video. I busted out laughing when he was like yeah “I don’t even charge my Cybertruck at that level”! lol 😂
The "lack of shielding" around the NACS connector, is because that is the 1000V version of the NACS/J3400 connector. (The shielding is only on the 500V version.)
Alpitronic still the best!
Great video, so informative !! Thank you for sharing. Before i knew it , the video was over. Thanks again.
Wow, never been so early.
Love and support from germany!
Hello I'm from the UK
I love these walk around videos. Learning about all the charging options coming, fleet options, etc is fascinating (and beneficial). Keep ‘em coming!!
The down side of putting the batteries in the trailer like that, is it reduces the max paid load of the trailer due to road weight restrictions. This on one hand will and can be major for shipping long range with items that are fairly light weight. But, the real market for these are for companies that operate retail locations, where they deliver to several locations on each load, but also purposely aim to make 2 sets of runs per shift, allowing them to use the trailers to run the truck and charge it at the same time to prevent/reduce down time for the trucks during business hours.
Would you want a motor "pushing" a big rig?
@@rogerstarkey5390 not pushing but powering
Except for over 80% of class 8s driven daily are cubed out loadwise and NOT gcw maxed smh.
And those batteries and motors are a similar weight to a diesel reefer setup with fuel tank. Plus ev semis get an additional ton of weight.
@@rogerstarkey5390 Q: Would you want a motor "pushing" a big rig? A: hell no... TRACTOR JACK-KNIFE IMMINENT...!!! of course this assumes it's not tuned right, but probably best just to disable the system altogether anywhere other than strictly City Driving for deliveries, or stop and go traffic, who knows maybe it already does this...? because once in motion, and the greater the MPH, the "assist" is not really needed anyway (only the regen). also ref: Newton.
A lot of interesting new applications are going to be developed using the new EV and battery technologies.
It will be very interesting seeing how things play out. People who want everything to be done the same way forever, are going to get very uncomfortable.
For V2X, DC out makes more sense since you can get higher power and it takes the cost out of the vehicle and into the optional extra.
It's fascinating that this important point that I've never heard anyone else mention, can be found deep in the middle of this show walk through video, at 27:30.
Nice interlude!
Great video, guys. Pretty exciting time.
Thank YOU out of Spunk! There's so much to see and learn about!!! I can't get over the Crowds Kyle has to fight just to get to talk to the Reps!!! It's so amazing! And yet hardly anyone there? Why aren't people flocking to see this? Why so few people? Why wasn't there the huge interest in the 1890 when EV's FIRST came out?
Hooray, HD quality! 😆
Thanks for the tour. Gives me a more of optimism that finally here in the US things will start taking off in terms of DC charging. Still long way to go to catch up with Europe where in most rest stops there 3-5 different charging networks to choose from!
Love your videos from Canada 🇨🇦
Incredible video!
Great job Kyle!
23:54 - from what i've seen with Kyle's CES coverage, and my own talking with them back at NYAS 2023 (also knowing they are installed down at AMP Georgia) if i were a CPO, Autel equipment would definitely be in my Top 3.
Great video!
“Not sure you should name a company Fluke” they have been around for like 70 years and pretty much gold standard in voltmeters. Every electrician I know has one, So it has served them pretty well
Yep,,, Fluke is to voltmeters, like Coke is to soft drinks, or Kleenex is to tissue. The brand synonymous with market segment.
Thanks so much for the video…I’ve learned so much since joining the Chanel…please keep them coming as this is the future.
Just made a long distance trip from Vancouver Canada to Palm Springs in our long range model y 2023 and back up through Carson city to Reno and back…charging went great no problems…one thing they should have in a lot of sits is amenities…ie washrooms coffee shops. We think this is quite lacking
Take care and thank again Kyle
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Great vid! Wish I could have made it this year, but will be there next year for sure!
@out_of_Spec If you guys visit DTNA in Portland, let me know and I'll come up and meet you guys!
Fluke is probably the most recognized professional industrial test equipment
Yeah, his geek card is in serious jeopardy.
"If it works, It's a Fluke!"
Funny they didn't seem to recognize the long standing top name in digital multimeters.
Interesting to see that Fluke and even bigger names like Carrier and Ryder and Penske want to be in on this show. It's a sign of the times.
@@davidmenasco5743 true lol
Yep, the best test equipment bar none used in Aerospace for decades. Bluntly dismissed by Kyle due lack of knowledge
Their synthesizers were garbage. HP made a better multimer. Techtronics made a better oscilloscope.
Thanks for another great video! I'm curious about Mack's LR Electric series trucks. I live near the plant in PA and haven't heard or seen anything in quite some time. Garbage trucks seem like a perfect fit for electric... any insights or updates that you are aware of on the Mack?
So much STUFF! Thanks for the lightning tour.
Awesome video Kyle and Jordan, love your show walks, to get inside on shows I can't attend. I see great potential in hydrogen for powering big construction machinery, long haul transport, shipping, trains.
Keep up with great work 😊❤❤
Great video Kyle, thanks for stopping @chargepoint
This has been the BEST video I've seen this year. You should of gone for 2 days or more!! I learned SO much right here, love that last take on the WattEV great idea love will be looking to that deployed right here in the UK, as a Cooperative venture with the likes of Ripple Power. I had no idea EV Trucking was taking off at this level in the US, its been a real eye opener. Sharing right now!!
We're just scratching the surface on EV Trucks and Charging. Learning as we're going as you really don't know how things will perform until you put the rubber to the road. #WattEV #MCS
Cheers guys
Actually EV school bus is brilliant. Work hard for 2 hours, idle for 4 work hard for 2 hours, charge for 16 hours.
Very to cool to see a concentration of stuff out of Raleigh and Durham
Wow. Insane the amount of ev charging companies
I enjoy your videos. Without creating trouble -- do any of the charge delivery systems discuss specifically how all that power gets to the units? These things don't look like they would be OK with residential power supply. Do they need to be with a certain distance from some kind of cross country sized electricity supply?
It's nice to see all the trucks. I really would like to see the next evolution to RV class A's.
I just got back from Oshkosh Wisconsin and there was a broke down electric mail truck getting pushed in the back of a trailer with mail still in the mail truck. I wish I could post the pictures to show them .
Did you guys hook up the dc fast charger that you unboxed. Very interested in a update video on that
There's been a couple of videos on it. They have 2 different ones and are waiting on the installation scheduling and figuring with the school where exactly they will go.
27:40 I would think that if there is AC onboard already, then AC out makes sense,
however if you do not already have the vehicle set up for AC out, then having DC out, where the contactors close as if connected to a DCFC, but instead of charging the HV battery, you discharge it via an external inverter to get AC for V2X.
thus you dont have to carry the inverter onboard for V2X compatibility.
i realise that some vehicles run the charger in reverse for AC out, but if you use that method, we may only see 1.5kw out in some applications, where if we DC out we can use 50kw with the appropriate inverter, with passively cooled cables in most applications.
I was really surprised to see a BYD truck making deliveries in LA recently. I've seen the Nikola hydrogen trucks a couple times too.
48:02, yes you walked by the International eMV, sitting next to the school bus you sat in. its also 100% electric
50:36 - Those ABBs can actually be upwards from 150kW these days. Looks almost the same, but the insides are very much upgraded. Take a road trip in Sweden and you'll notice. Of course, lots of the old 50kW ones still being operational also.
The future of electric is coming quick Love it
There is a big show today in Harrogate Yorkshire the UK .All Electric.
I thought that was the Circle K unit brand. That is one insane DC Fast Charger! 34:46
Yep, Fastnet like these chargers as well, we are starting to see them being deployed here in the UK. I think Circle K have done a deal with Sainsbains here in teh UK as well because they share the same colour branding orange.
@ 4 3 : 2 9 fluke has always been a great tester of electricity to many many years
Isn't there a ferry in Scandinavia that already uses megawatt charging system? Mining, cargo handling, and short-haul ship are ripe for electric treatment.
"I could see it going both ways" when talking about DC vs. AC voltage for bi-directional charging infrastructure. Haha! No matter which way it goes, it will be going both ways. 🙂
Definitely check out Evercharge and their smart power.
It would be nice of more of the coach building rv companies partnered up with the tractor / rv companies for BEV RVs.
Cost and availability?
FLUKE has been around for decades! A great EE measurement tools company -- a friend worked for them and he loved to show off the FLUKE "drop test" for one of its devices -- literally throwing the test device across the warehouse! Also...please ask EVSE companies / manufacturers how to deal with cable vandals!! We have one station in my area that has been targeted three times so EA is holding off the fourth repair. (EA is now letter customers know if a stations is down for maintenance or vandalism countrywide.)
@11:10 Costs and efficiency will always cater towards BEV. Hydrogen in transportation is just for special cases/niche products (like rescue vehicles in earthquake or fire situations, ships, and maby toys for big boys?). For normal usage, BEV are the go-to.
Hydrogen fire trucks seem like a bad idea on face value.
1h11m: You just walked through Rocsys, next time stop by to see some cool technology enabling self driving vehicles to charge autonomously!
I Feel like DC bidirectional charging would be easier to get grid approval as the inverter is stationary. AC is a lot cheaper to setup though and Tesla went with that so hard call. Does the Tesla power share support 3 phase AC homes to power all circuits?
Quick jump to Kyle meeting Wolverine 52:13 . Kidding of course, Andrei is the man. He worked at Tesla for about 5 years before Chargepoint
47:24 in case you were wondering the eRH is the class 8 EV tractor from International. you knew what the eCascadia was but not the eRH!?! ha
Fluke: "I'm a joke to you?"
its like storing your food in a bunch of tupperware, then as you eat it you need to carry all the tupperware with you until you need to cook for an hour to refill your tupperware, at some point your tupper gets worn and explodes burning you
Those are some epic elevator pitches. Seems like the EV business has mastered the art.
Still, I could turn off the sound on this video and skip past the interviews, and just watching the background visuals as you walk through this show would be the most interesting video on TH-cam.
It's a brave new world.
This channel is to EV information what the Pacific Ocean is to swimming pools.
11:04 Hydrogen in the EV landscape: I've seen video demos of shipping containers fully outfitted with a hydrogen energy production system. A sort of "hydrogen power plant in a box" to put it simply. What I would _love_ to see is a company that drops off one of these units which powers your remote EV charging station. They remotely monitor it and not too differently from a fuel tanker topping up a gas station, when it starts running low on hydrogen, they swap it out with a new box.
Would you recommend a school bus with an LFP battery over an NMC battery if it meant the extra weight of the LFP battery means the passenger count is lowered? Would it be that much better long term?
Why would you lower the passenger count? Do you need to lower the passenger count on an EV if you put in a bigger (and heavier) battery?
So funny seeing Kyle not know fluke. For reference they are the de facto standard in voltmeters and measurement equipment. Not exactly a player in the ev equipment space but every electrical engineer that works for one of these companies has their gear.
46:11 my wife drives a school bus and her biggest complaint is the lack of heat in the winter and non-existent air conditioning in summer. School buses are horrible. She can’t wait to transition to an EV bus.
“Pipeline pushers” is not the term. It’s “boost compressor” or compressor set. All good.
Clean energy has never felt so dirty.
Lots of great technology on display and looks like a bright future but seems like a big lag in getting this implemented and built out. Still dealing with the same 4 to 6 unit EA/EVGo CCS stations scattered about with usually at least one unit not working at every station. Where is all this great stuff out in the wild.
It’s all about moving parts. Full electric whether batteries or small cmv powering an electric motor is more efficient and has fewer moving parts. Cheers
Why do these bespoke EV versions of trucks still have a long nose design? I wouldn't necessarily expect a shift to cab-over (mostly for safety concerns) but why not a slope nose like the Tesla Semi? Maneuverability suffers for it. Is it for any practical reason or just down to resistance to (visible) change within governmental procurement?
tmi, awesome
Instead of playing the game Where is Waldo we should play Where is Victor?
🤣🤣 He's in the back tinkering on MCS (yes, I'm talking in third person for fun).
True MCS and high power is where I live.
they guy at WattEV looks familiar, wasnt he the face of NXU for a while?
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@@VictorAtlasman I may regret not googling this, but I'm assuming that's you and the answer is yes?
@@Mobile_Domyep. Let me know if there's any videos or info I can share on what we're doing here at WattEV and Charge America. You know I love to showcase the most powerful chargers in the world. 💪
Pilot needs a truck/passenger vehicle charging station at Wikieup AZ.
I don't think you actually need to standardize if you push AC or DC over V2G since we are switching to NACS. A bidirectional charger that had the inverters would be able to handle anything with the right relays. Or if you know you aren't going to get a car that pushes DC than you can just get a cheap bidirectional charger that doesn't have inverters and save the money. But it's not going to be the end of the world if it's not standardized. Standardized communication and interoperability would be important though.
With our biggest states, California, Texas, and Florida already restricting electricity during peak periods, I just wonder where all the electricity is going to come from if the electric transportation movement happens as fast as the government has mandated.
A harkening back to somewhat old school OOS
Do you think CHPT, EVGO or BLINK have a chance? These companies seem to have been punished since 2022.
No electric trucks in the us? I’d estimate 100 Rivian vans delivering in Seattle alone! Looking at the specs, Rivian has 10,000 on the road.
So heartily agree to hear EV enthusiasts say the need to diversity our energy for many different segments of our transportation network and long distance carriers. Useful applications for Hydrogen include long distant trucking, interstate busses to freight trains and long distance passenger trains to name but a few. All these sectors would benefit from using hydrogen and be deployed along our major interstates and freight lines, with on spot manufacturing of hydrogen using renewables. There is no one cure all for de-fossilizing our transportation and carrier sector and hydrogen should be consider as one of the significant players..
Personal transportation I do have issues with and cannot see hydrogen as a major player.
Interesting to see Proterra in the background.
I guess they are going to continue after their bankruptcy.
Hugh Jackman's brother works for Chargepoint? :D
Looks like a lot of compannies want to get into the charging business.
Hydrogen still isn’t a good idea. It’s not cleaner unless you use green hydrogen, but that hydrogen is too expensive for fleets. The cheaper hydrogen is made from Natural Gas and releases a lot of CO2.
Plus Hydrogen acts as a greenhouse gas by preventing methane from naturally degrading. Even with the best tanks, Hydrogen molecules are so small that they are nearly impossible to store without leaks.