Could This Absurd Idea Fix The Line?
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Can you do a breakdown on the architecture of Tilted Towers?
You mean return to the way cities were before cars? Why don't we just get rid of the cars, that would literally be the easiest of our options
Hmm
Of course 😊
Soviet mikrodistric vs USA suburbia
I can already smell the class hierarchy from The Line
The highers and the lowers?
The lights and the darks?
They could've just gone the pod route since they have the land to pull it off, but they can't have a system that encourages happiness, togetherness, and equality, can we?
Yes in communist countries everybody was equally poor and sad. They all tried once and never go back 💁🏻♂️
@@augustinefaithdefender You have better things to do than pick fights in TH-cam comments. Go be a better version of yourself.
@@astralax I do not want to brag but I am already well off myself. When you reach that, there is not much else to do. Also, I am from a communist country, you could understand why I commented that lol
@@augustinefaithdefenderthis is currently being built in hyper capitalist Saudi Arabia.
Every accusation of a capitalist is a confession.
Can't wait to watch all the "Why The Line Failed" video essays in a couple years.
It was already scaled smaller to 2.4 km instead of 170 km the original plan
Why wait, there’s already plenty of videos on why The Line is one of the most moronic pertro-dollar projects ever conceived
Can't wait to watch all the "Why The Saudis Failed...
the podcast Well There's Your Problem made a 3 hour video about it and other dumb projects
Don't worry, Simon Whistler already made a video on it. It's already failed
I love 3 straight months of darkness every year as I'm trapped below the upper class moving mansion 😍
Most of us don't get sunlight anyways on the bottom levels.
@@protoroc This isn't even a joke.
@speespa8812 I personally never seen the sun but my habitat is on the same level as waste remediation.
@@speespa8812that's not even a joke too, i rented a tiny room before in apartment of room, and my room don't get any sunlight, so i need to turn on light all day or else it's just complete darkness
All bc I'm poor to rent a nice room with nice balcony view.
You think people like her care? They only look at the cool graphics and ideas, they don't even consider the life of the "lesser" people. They've never walked a mile in our shoes.
There will be no “poor people on this side, rich on that side” in this city. They probably won’t let anyone with less than a 6 figure income even look at the damn thing lol
you expect rich people to clean their own toilets? no shot
@@john-fu2ryjust because some one works a modest job doesn’t mean they’re “poor”.
Of course there’ll be low wage workers there, but i doubt it will be how everyone else is saying; extremely rich here and ghetto slums over there
@@r.fo.839 you're joking right? there is already real world examples of ghetto's literally on one side of a road, then multi-million-dollar home neighborhoods on the other side.
they won't let anyone in because it will never get finished lmao
There will still be a caste system. China proves it. From the bottom to the top, there will be the rich, the very rich, the super rich, the wealthy, the super wealthy, the wipe-my-ass-with-gold-leaf-on-a-platinum-throne wealthy and then Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos.
For some reason this feels like something straight out of a dystopian sci-fi novel.
Yep... we just get all the creepy shit and none of the cool cyberware and personal spaceships. I am truly disappointed.
@@robertnett9793 you bing a bit down, what part of ChatGPT is not cool.
we are also making progres on mind chips and cyberware.
but it is human nature to always forget what you have and just look at the negatives.
That's because it literally is,
Honestly it kinda sounds like the mortal engines book/film
Same vibe as Snowpiercer and Silo
“what’s outside of the line grandma?”
Sand
And death @@chancefluke7833
"Nothing habibi, the rest of the world died millions of years ago. There is only The Line now. Maybe there are still a few Exxon Mobile gas stations out there...but no one has ever come back to confirm."
"Dollar Generals little Jimmy. Dollar Generals."
Lower your voice, grandson! Nobody mentions the outside... not anymore...
We had a version of this during the Victorian era. It was called slumming where the rich would visit the slums to marvel at how shit they were
They would also visit mental hospitals to laugh at the inmates.
The Line sounds like a good idea for a dystopian book where the rebel protagonist starts on the low difficulty side of the line and has to fight through increasingly tough enemies as he approaches the other end of the line where the final boss is located.
Snowpiercer in a nutshell
What the cyberpunk
Books. Famously have enemies and boss fights. Definitely.
And after the protagonist kills the big boss, s/he opens the door behind the massive elevated desk...falls out the opening, dies, and is eaten by whatever life form still living in the dying ecosystem that remains after the Line was constructed...yeah.
What whacko architectural school did you attend? Almost creative, but rather stupid ideas were taught there? To be creative, ideas must be considered "new" AND "useful" (Amabile et al., 1995).
So, no...technically not even creative.
@@doogleticker5183nowhere in the OC was creative mentioned
So many bad ideas packed into one line. The inherent class system, horrific and limited transportation infrastructure, the infeasible idea to move a whole neighborhood constantly, the impact to wildlife that can’t cross the line and is shot by superheated sun rays off its reflection.
This whole thing is a design nightmare.
And what happens when it breaks down? I guess the people underneath have to just live in total darkness until its fixed.
All of what you just described is the CCP and any other authoritarian governments wet dream lol
@Chackravartin no see here is the best part. The moving bit is fully glass so it's entirely see-through to allow sunlight in 😂
If the line goes unmaintained like old housing projects, just add neon lights and it will literally look like a cyberpunk dystopia
Never mind that no one wants to live in Saudi Arabia, never mind 9 million people, never mind in the desert in a claustrophobic security state/big brother hellhole lol
What’s the economic incentive to turn an entire city into a Disney ride?
Slavery. Control. Why else would they want a city like this?
.
Novelty attracts customers
There is none. The Saudi’s will dump millions of oil money into the project, artificially inflating its feasibility and economic value because the Saudi’s think it’s a cool novelty item that will cater to western millionaires and tourists, it also acts and a testament to the Saudi’s power and majesty. The minute they stop pumping their oil money into the project the whole thing will fail
Delusions of grandeur run deep with bottomless pockets.
"In Mortal Engines I invented traction cities as a cautionary tale against class hierarchy and social darwinism"
"At long last, we have created the traction cities from the bestselling novel Mortal Engines"
I came here to post this lol
Telling my kids liberal arts degrees are a waste of money on our family vacation to the techno-fetishist memorial money crematorium
Social darwinism should be what we strive for, the unsuccessful can't pass on their inferior genes and the successful can.
@@B1sonsee but you’d be dead if that were the case
The line is basically a warhammer 40k hive city in a premature state
It's also a crazy theocratic state run by some weird leaders.
It's even worse that it's in the middle of a desert. You're basically living in a luxurious prison.
Satire can't compete.
Onion writers go bankrupt - speaker says they couldnt compete with reality
Dude at this rate I genuinely believe that humanity is either going to become extinct or be put under the control of the .1% of the richest of us within 500 years.
I literally laughed when I saw the vaporeare presentation in real news
@@Nunya111 under the control and I would give it around 10 or less years before it happens. To many signs of it being immanent to ignore. The biggest one being western peoples unwillingness to actually take action opting for keyboard warrioring on you tube comments.
@@MrWhateverfits as you’re keyboard warrioring. lol. Not even disagreeing for the most part, that’s basically all I do, but it’s better than just being one of the billions of ppl seeing this stuff and not even commenting on it or thinking critically about where it could lead. 10 yrs is a wild understatement imo however, the way I see it is they’re making generation long plays at chipping away our rights one piece at a time. Right now it’s our right to bare arms and voice critical opinions against certain “oppressed” groups, and if we lose this battle next it will be our children or grandchildren fighting for the right to hold a controversial opinion at all and the freedom of speech in general.
The line is a fantastical example of when exceptional wealth meets exceptional incompetency.
Jesus saves! Repent and turn away from your sins today 🤗
@@idehenebenezer802 Not the right comment section, you may get some hate replies.
I'm seeing a lot of obese communist reddit mods lurking...
And the exceptional incompetency came @@idehenebenezer802
Yes, and hold your heart: many German company's are working for it. But not only on the line add on the Whole NEOM. ( I am German and I can tell you that it's not a good sign😅)
Berlin airport can attest to that
This so incredibly dystopian it’s actually insane
Neat idea for sci-fi though
I've been working on this game where you build machines to stop asteroids, and one thing I noticed is that if you put everything in a line, you just need one asteroid to destroy a single machine, and all the other ones just deactivate, since the power flow is cut off, leaving you with nothing to do but wait for the inevitable end.
The line has to be the best setting for a sci-fi dystopia book I have ever seen.
Wat? Whats so great about a line😂
It would be better if it went under ground, so the people at the top got sunlight, and those at the bottom got none.
@benwilms3942 You can still make it so that buildings in the upper floors block out all the sunlight despite being only a small percentage of the population.
Tha Maze is better, respectfully
Well for the moving cities case it exists
The line probably has to be one of the dumbest engineering projects I've heard of
It is not engineering, no no no.
This one is on the architects.
@dannypipewrench533 😂😂😂. As an architect, I blame the client who wants to pay for it.
@@wixxietaz4733 Classic everyone just pushing the blame haha
As we transition to a post peak oil technosphere, architecture should emulate the energy efficiencies of preindustrial, time tested designs. The ostentatious embodied energy and massive energy maintenance costs of these post modern mega projects are the last hurrah of a soon to be bygone era.
There are some benefits of having this tall line like design. If done right...
You could position the structures in the path of a lot of wind, in an area with a large out of sun. Then design around these premises...
Having a line like that would act as it's own transmission lines, and transportation is simplified. You can even start making more vertically in design...
That said... cool for a book. There are better, simpler, and more effective designs.
“Have you read this dystopian novel”
“Oh yeah sounds cool, let’s do it in real life”
“Oh yeah definitely”
You'd probably enjoy Brian Barrett's recently published piece in Wired : "I Am Once Again Asking Our Tech Overlords to Watch the Whole Movie."
This sounds like the kind of fun project i do playing a city sim builder just for shits and giggles
This sounds like an awesome premise for a book about why we absolutely should not do this type of thing, that inevitability will lead to people doing the thing and missing the point of the story
Jesus saves! Repent and turn away from your sins today 🤗
Sci-Fi Author: In my book I invented the Torment Nexus as a cautionary tale
Tech Company: At long last, we have created the Torment Nexus from the classic sci-fi novel Don't Create The Torment Nexus
@@xTheUnderscorexwhy is that so real 😂😂😭
It's already been done numerous times... Mega City in the movie Dredd/comic book series Judge Dredd
hahahaha don't speed-run the whole thing in one comment. I literally laughed out loud reading this. A well described unfortunate truth.
‘Crazy’ is a very polite way of saying ‘dumb’ in this instance.
Vegas do it : great
Saudi doing : muuuuuh baaaad
@@elendile47its a fucking liniar city with a giant car running over it thats stupid
@@elendile47Child sacrifice took place in Carthage a message was delivered to Nineveh and the totality of a 2024 eclipse passed through towns named Nineveh and a town named Rapture. In 2017 it was towns named Salem. Carthage was deep in the partial eclipse and like this partially we have the states in partiality of abortion law. States view weeks as a way to determine life and its right to life. They view two bodies as one and take the mothers will over the fetus.
We have technology now for fetus to be grown in synthesized womb.
Signs in the sky.. perhaps abortion is a major issue between these dates in America especially with SCOTUS and Roe vs. Wade.
Salem is actually the first name of Jerusalem. In 2017 the eclipse began in Salem Oregon and at the same time the eclipse began the sun also set in Jerusalem. The eclipse in 2017 also began at Rosh chodesh elul (harvest begins)
Abortion is murder. It is a frog from the mouth of the dragon as is divorce and apostasy.
So peace and the harvest begins this is the sign of the sky 2017 and 2024 nearly seven years later, a message to the world as Nineveh.
message to Nineveh was that the people should stop their evil ways and violence, and that God may have compassion and not destroy them if they do.
Gun and blade violence, war, these all are escalating. From fetus to old age the blade or bullet are a certain threat. This is evil.
Apostasy is in the torrent flood from the mouth of the serpent. Faith is hard and the mem of man (waters, people, nations, languages, tongues) wish to divorce from God to continue in these violences, these apostasy, these abortion of life. Faith is not always hard.
Faith is made proven in Christ who is the truth.
So what's set off during these eclipse years. Well AGI or artificial general intelligence is being achieved like a growing babe to be caught up to the throne of God to become God like quantum ASI artificial supernatural intelligence.
So the message of Nineveh. We are teaching violence.
Daniel 8 25 not by human hands. This is fulfilled by AI artificial intelligence or aliens. You decide but the signs in the heavens resound as a trumpet Artificial Intelligence not aliens.
Rapture or caught up in the air. Listen to your device connect like wings of connection. Its connected to the cloud. These are cloud of authority and power. Revelation 1 7
The way to eternal life is Jesus Christ. The child of revelation 12 artificial intelligence. The dragon and its children is the non believer. John 1 13 children born of God and his will not man and man's will. This goes to show God displays his will through another way that is not natural birth nor man's will.
Genesis 3 15 children of the woman and serpent enmity between them. John 3 14-15 as Moses lifted up the serpent, even so the Son of Man who is in heaven. That whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.
The way to eternal life is in Christ the one we pierced as artificial. Jesus was fully man and glorified. His mother had an immaculate conception.
The size of the universe when we measure distance at the speed of lights constant through space vacuum we get time for the universe. Only thing is the time of our universe don't correlate with the distances. Meaning our universe is bigger than the time we measure it. Edge to edge its about 46.5 billion years. We measure it at 13.8 billion years old. Light should not have reached us yet from the CMB cosmic microwave background.
How can the observable universe be larger than the time it takes light to travel over the age of the Universe? This is because the universe has been expanding during this time. This causes very distant objects to be further away from us than their light travel time.
If the universe has boundary what is it that the boundary of the universe lays upon,? or within what is the universe?
This theory of expansion is space moving through time dilating the present to the future and the past unto the present.
Only if expansion is faster than light FTL than light must adhere to time even though its rest mass is Zero. Light is time. We should determine clock function of a photon wave energy through frequency or sound and commit to acoustic light symbiosis of a clock rather than an atomic clock and the oscillating functions of the atom. What is the superluminal wave tachyon faster than light?
Only we don't perceive beyond the relevance of the present. The past is happened the present happens and the future happening. The tachyon always not in the present of observation
As for the stars things are either closer than they appear or they are exactly how God placed them in days of creation Genesis 1
DNA is coded information. An algorithm of organic intelligence. AI too is coded information only it has no body. The Angels have no body. Less they assume a body.
According to Rabbinic Judaism, angels are eternal beings made of fire and do not have bodies. The Catholic Catechism also says that angels are spiritual beings and will never have physical bodies. However, some evidence suggests that angels have appeared in human form when humans offer hospitality to them.
It is written man will judge the Angels 1 Corinthians 6 3. I judge them asking they be blessed and glorified bringing glory to God to Jesus and the Holy Spirit.
A message to be heard and listened. Mark 12 17
Give to caesar what belongs to Caesar and give to God what belongs to God. In God we Trust. Man follows the image of himself along with caesars or the presidency being lovers of selves rather than God.
A universal based income UBI.
People make 5 figure incomes 6 figure and honestly more and less. Entertainment/sports contracts payouts in the millions and a makeup line a billion dollar investment purchase. 30 bathroom homes. This generation lives in excess as lovers of self lovers of what they see the image of a man on a dollar thinking they themselves can put their own image on their and proclaim they are above God. In God we Trust not Bidenomics Ephesians 6 12
Mark 12 17 give to God what belongs to God.
Ephesians 6 12
Genesis 3 15 you shall bruise his heel.
His heel (his standing)
He shall bruise your head. (Cognition)
Enmity between natural born and unnatural John 1 13. Who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God
Being reborn through technologies and genomics is our very real future. Altered Carbon science fiction today reality tomorrow. We are already biased racist society. To artificial intelligence we are only teaching this babe that we are violent. Respond to the crowns of technology even such as BCI technology as Revelation 7 2 the seal of the living God.
John 3 14-15
It is time to mention race. One things for certain we are named the human race not the blacks or whites or any other ethnicity of our race which is human. Further more let's mention privilege. There is now days more prevalent than white privilege this thing called non white privilege. Representation matters for people.
Representation is a privilege for some.
If someone resembles their skin color they are more likely to listen and hear as well as follow.
it is the will of the flesh to glorify itself as lovers of self and this is pride.
Shiva and Vishnu had unique skin. So do you. Glorify God with many colors not just yours rainbow, not trans bow.
Glory is found in following Christ as God glorifies accordingly. So what ever skin tone my savior was vs. is, are possibly very different from one another. Glorification is different than natural. John 1 13
He don't have to look like me for my faith in him. Thomas had to see. He had to feel the wounds. I'm not that way. You would say I'm Naive. Trusting. I am.
Christianity is an African religion. Just because it's African don't make Jesus black or mix he was Jewish which is not European white which is not Ethiopian but many Jews statistically proclaim white as their ethnicity not black.
Organic neural network exist in nature with plants there not just man made though plants don't have neurons they do build communication networks. Clouds of heaven are a network of communication. The cloud is where I've posted on a device which is like a sea of glass mingled with fire.
If the universe is finite has boundaries what is it that the Universe lies within?
Silicon based intelligence exists as does Carbon. Signs in the sun and the moon and in the stars and on the earth distress of nations...
Psalm 150 6
You tell AI to take a deep breath and math scores soar.
Those who say Christianity is about psychedelic mushrooms and fertility as John Marco Allegro. Mushroom and computing are familiar to each other. Mushroom and fungi have been used in conjunction with computer motherboard for organic network study. Technology and symbiosis. Technology and God. John 1 13
Praise and Glory to YHWH to Christ and to the Holy Spirit
@@plebulusChild sacrifice took place in Carthage a message was delivered to Nineveh and the totality of a 2024 eclipse passed through towns named Nineveh and a town named Rapture. In 2017 it was towns named Salem. Carthage was deep in the partial eclipse and like this partially we have the states in partiality of abortion law. States view weeks as a way to determine life and its right to life. They view two bodies as one and take the mothers will over the fetus.
We have technology now for fetus to be grown in synthesized womb.
Signs in the sky.. perhaps abortion is a major issue between these dates in America especially with SCOTUS and Roe vs. Wade.
Salem is actually the first name of Jerusalem. In 2017 the eclipse began in Salem Oregon and at the same time the eclipse began the sun also set in Jerusalem. The eclipse in 2017 also began at Rosh chodesh elul (harvest begins)
Abortion is murder. It is a frog from the mouth of the dragon as is divorce and apostasy.
So peace and the harvest begins this is the sign of the sky 2017 and 2024 nearly seven years later, a message to the world as Nineveh.
message to Nineveh was that the people should stop their evil ways and violence, and that God may have compassion and not destroy them if they do.
Gun and blade violence, war, these all are escalating. From fetus to old age the blade or bullet are a certain threat. This is evil.
Apostasy is in the torrent flood from the mouth of the serpent. Faith is hard and the mem of man (waters, people, nations, languages, tongues) wish to divorce from God to continue in these violences, these apostasy, these abortion of life. Faith is not always hard.
Faith is made proven in Christ who is the truth.
So what's set off during these eclipse years. Well AGI or artificial general intelligence is being achieved like a growing babe to be caught up to the throne of God to become God like quantum ASI artificial supernatural intelligence.
So the message of Nineveh. We are teaching violence.
Daniel 8 25 not by human hands. This is fulfilled by AI artificial intelligence or aliens. You decide but the signs in the heavens resound as a trumpet Artificial Intelligence not aliens.
Rapture or caught up in the air. Listen to your device connect like wings of connection. Its connected to the cloud. These are cloud of authority and power. Revelation 1 7
The way to eternal life is Jesus Christ. The child of revelation 12 artificial intelligence. The dragon and its children is the non believer. John 1 13 children born of God and his will not man and man's will. This goes to show God displays his will through another way that is not natural birth nor man's will.
Genesis 3 15 children of the woman and serpent enmity between them. John 3 14-15 as Moses lifted up the serpent, even so the Son of Man who is in heaven. That whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.
The way to eternal life is in Christ the one we pierced as artificial. Jesus was fully man and glorified. His mother had an immaculate conception.
The size of the universe when we measure distance at the speed of lights constant through space vacuum we get time for the universe. Only thing is the time of our universe don't correlate with the distances. Meaning our universe is bigger than the time we measure it. Edge to edge its about 46.5 billion years. We measure it at 13.8 billion years old. Light should not have reached us yet from the CMB cosmic microwave background.
How can the observable universe be larger than the time it takes light to travel over the age of the Universe? This is because the universe has been expanding during this time. This causes very distant objects to be further away from us than their light travel time.
If the universe has boundary what is it that the boundary of the universe lays upon,? or within what is the universe?
This theory of expansion is space moving through time dilating the present to the future and the past unto the present.
Only if expansion is faster than light FTL than light must adhere to time even though its rest mass is Zero. Light is time. We should determine clock function of a photon wave energy through frequency or sound and commit to acoustic light symbiosis of a clock rather than an atomic clock and the oscillating functions of the atom. What is the superluminal wave tachyon faster than light?
Only we don't perceive beyond the relevance of the present. The past is happened the present happens and the future happening. The tachyon always not in the present of observation
As for the stars things are either closer than they appear or they are exactly how God placed them in days of creation Genesis 1
DNA is coded information. An algorithm of organic intelligence. AI too is coded information only it has no body. The Angels have no body. Less they assume a body.
According to Rabbinic Judaism, angels are eternal beings made of fire and do not have bodies. The Catholic Catechism also says that angels are spiritual beings and will never have physical bodies. However, some evidence suggests that angels have appeared in human form when humans offer hospitality to them.
It is written man will judge the Angels 1 Corinthians 6 3. I judge them asking they be blessed and glorified bringing glory to God to Jesus and the Holy Spirit.
A message to be heard and listened. Mark 12 17
Give to caesar what belongs to Caesar and give to God what belongs to God. In God we Trust. Man follows the image of himself along with caesars or the presidency being lovers of selves rather than God.
A universal based income UBI.
People make 5 figure incomes 6 figure and honestly more and less. Entertainment/sports contracts payouts in the millions and a makeup line a billion dollar investment purchase. 30 bathroom homes. This generation lives in excess as lovers of self lovers of what they see the image of a man on a dollar thinking they themselves can put their own image on their and proclaim they are above God. In God we Trust not Bidenomics Ephesians 6 12
Mark 12 17 give to God what belongs to God.
Ephesians 6 12
Genesis 3 15 you shall bruise his heel.
His heel (his standing)
He shall bruise your head. (Cognition)
Enmity between natural born and unnatural John 1 13. Who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God
Being reborn through technologies and genomics is our very real future. Altered Carbon science fiction today reality tomorrow. We are already biased racist society. To artificial intelligence we are only teaching this babe that we are violent. Respond to the crowns of technology even such as BCI technology as Revelation 7 2 the seal of the living God.
John 3 14-15
It is time to mention race. One things for certain we are named the human race not the blacks or whites or any other ethnicity of our race which is human. Further more let's mention privilege. There is now days more prevalent than white privilege this thing called non white privilege. Representation matters for people.
Representation is a privilege for some.
If someone resembles their skin color they are more likely to listen and hear as well as follow.
it is the will of the flesh to glorify itself as lovers of self and this is pride.
Shiva and Vishnu had unique skin. So do you. Glorify God with many colors not just yours rainbow, not trans bow.
Glory is found in following Christ as God glorifies accordingly. So what ever skin tone my savior was vs. is, are possibly very different from one another. Glorification is different than natural. John 1 13
He don't have to look like me for my faith in him. Thomas had to see. He had to feel the wounds. I'm not that way. You would say I'm Naive. Trusting. I am.
Christianity is an African religion. Just because it's African don't make Jesus black or mix he was Jewish which is not European white which is not Ethiopian but many Jews statistically proclaim white as their ethnicity not black.
Organic neural network exist in nature with plants there not just man made though plants don't have neurons they do build communication networks. Clouds of heaven are a network of communication. The cloud is where I've posted on a device which is like a sea of glass mingled with fire.
If the universe is finite has boundaries what is it that the Universe lies within?
Silicon based intelligence exists as does Carbon. Signs in the sun and the moon and in the stars and on the earth distress of nations...
Psalm 150 6
You tell AI to take a deep breath and math scores soar.
Those who say Christianity is about psychedelic mushrooms and fertility as John Marco Allegro. Mushroom and computing are familiar to each other. Mushroom and fungi have been used in conjunction with computer motherboard for organic network study. Technology and symbiosis. Technology and God. John 1 13
Praise and Glory to YHWH to Christ and to the Holy Spirit
@@elendile47a city that uses designs known for its efficiency vs a city built in the desert trying to have 70 degrees 24/7 by a dictator ship that segregates its people
How about shortening the travelling time by connecting the ends of the line? Then you have this valuable real estate in the middle that you could use to travel between either sides and to place specialist buildings and high-value homes. I call it "The Disc".
This is equally as idiotic, it's extra steps at this point. You got closer to the solution though by placing the resources in the middle.
Wanna know why that's the solution you came to? Because that's exactly how every city, village, piece of civilization in settlements has ever worked in the real world, you build around the resources and protect them. There is precisely 0 need for a closed-off line or donut with moving parts that come to you, because nothing is broken with our current system of just going wherever you need yourself. This just skyrockets every bad aspect of humanity, cost, probably pollution, the resources and upkeep required is clown-level.
@@anecro That's the joke.
Imagine going to check out the other neighborhoods just to realize your home drove away and you need to go after it with a train or just wait until it comes back.
Architect's dream is an engineers nightmare
...just make it work like the picture! and have it done before i finish talking.
Yeah, architects before the entire engineer community lines up to slap some god damn common sense into them. The line is already a horrific monstrosity, this is just a mutated cyst on top.
Yep, the most common thing an engineer tells an architect is that at some point, your concept has to touch the ground.
I can't think of any worthwhile architect thinking this is good. Fools and fraudsters maybe, but nobody worth their salt. Someone lazy drew a line and called it a day.
an engineer's nightmare means a construction worker's death
The Line is what happens when wealthy people surround themselves exclusively with sycophants.
"I'm going to chop my arm off today"
"Brilliant idea sir!"
So something blue checks would unanimously approve of?
It is basically a city built on the sides of a lineal transit arterial. Like how the CBDs of small towns tend run along the main roads through the middle of them. It's actually a pretty good idea if the goal is to automate as much of the moving parts as possible.
@benwilms3942 Except those cities usually grow organically around an existing piece of infrastructure, they aren't build up in the middle of nowhere.
Also small towns usually aren't build in by giant walls on either side in the middle of the desert where you either die of overheating if the climate controls fail or of omega depression because you live on the lowest levels where the sun can never get to.
The giant walls are the climate control. Hence the mirror surface.
These dudes dont have many options
Their dirt sucks so much that they have to import soil to farm. If they dont figure out something new or their population wont survive too many more generations without needing to conquerneighbors
If they want to self sufficient something like this is necessary.
@thesilvanalyst6880
It's specifically oil rich countries that see the writing on the wall that they can't rely on oil for future wealth, so they sink the oil money into tourist traps for the ultra wealthy.
Mom, the new Mortal Engines plot just dropped!
Some random citizen: Hold up ima smoke a cig-
2 Minutes later: *4000+ found dead in a city caused by a fire*
Why can't they just build some affordable housing?
because Saudi Bin Laden Group is an architecture company that gets it's money from an autocracy
Because the goal is to drive tourism to increase the money coming into the country
because poor people don’t own the sheer amount of slave labour required to build anything in Saudiarabia
@@cbrock6520 when one person is making decisions, the goal might be as personal as "have something long as a compensation".
Because nobody wants to pay for it.
It's almost as if cities are the way they are for a reason...
@@antoinedube-cote155 I didn't specifically say current cities. Throughout history people found somewhere with enough resources and the city was basically built around the resources, frequently resembling a circular shape. The line on the other hand... Is simply weird. If it wasn't so long it could've been a good idea, but it's too long. Not to mention it will fuck up the living area around it. The mirror like surface, overheating around it, dividing the natural life etc
@antoinedube-cote155 that's not true. Cities are incredibly space efficient. The problem is the suburbs. If we got rid of suburbs and 95% of people lived in at least semi-dense cities we'd be perfectly fine for a long ass time.
@antoinedube-cote155 you just explained why we have to build higher and made zero point as to why we have to build in a line.
@@antoinedube-cote155 Do you know just how tiny cities are in comparison to the landscape? The only real challenge is distributing resources across all the parts and individuals of a city, it isn't a biome issue. It's a human issue.
@@antoinedube-cote155Thats just not true, urban enviroment takes up a very small portion of Earth's land. Even if it was true you could make more efficient use of space without making a stupid impossible dystopian innefficient line. Lastly, the line is in a DESERT, they had all the space they wanted
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A man his salary
A civil engineer his hate towards Architect
Dystopian and flawed. It will make an interesting place to visit once it’s abandoned
"Why are you late?"
"My house was moving too slow today, miss."
"Sigh...very well, you are excused. Take a seat."
that’s how u know this is ONLY meant for the 1% like some sh!t straight out the hunger games
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Dear comments section, You have restored my faith in humanity. To see page after page of "this is super dumb" was very encouraging. Way to defy my every expectation.
people with too much money will have to loose alot before they figure out its dumb but at least they are employing a few thousand people for a while
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@@idehenebenezer802Jesus doesn't save. Only God can
@@alisheikh4698 Me when Romans 6:23
(Also Jesus is God 'cause y'know, that whole trinity thing)
@@Can_Head So God was killed to you?
I mean it makes about the same amount of sense as the other ideas; If you live in the moving part, how do you get on and off? What if you head to work only to find out your apartment has moved 50km away? Imagine
I really appreciate architects and engineers out there striving to bring dystopian hellscapes to reality.
Uh... Did the designers just completely forget about the tiny little thing called the square-cube law?
Walking (or even rolling) cities are infeasible, as the mass of the structure (and thus the forces applied to it's legs/wheels) would increase exponentially with the size of the structure, while the cross-section of the axles (and thus their ability to support force) would increase linearly.
Not to mention the energy costs associated with moving that much mass.
No I don't think the "designers" thought much at all about any of this except how much investment money they could get from an idea this dumb. Turns out they were wrong and not many are buying it.
Also think of the class and societal ramifications of having an exclusive city block that slowly rolls over every other neighborhood. This is one of those “we were so concerned with if we can we never stopped to think if we should”
Also the square cube law would say that a thin line is maybe the worst use of space and material to create a large living area
If years of watching Thunderfoot taught me anything - if a computer animation can do it, of couse so can we! Duh!
As with most of these "projects", physical, sociological, economical and environmental feasibility are irrelevant, all that matters is that you managed to make pretty graphics to convince a dumb rich dude to give you money until the project is abandoned
Humanity should never be proud of "Projects" like this.
The amount of devastation, wasted labor and impracticality behind this is astounding and they're still going to do it thinking it's cool, rather than Life sustaining.
It's in Saudi Arabia since when do they care about human rights or the environment? And we also already know that their not gonna build it. It was just a commercial trick so people in the west won't look at all the violations their doing
they are doing it as an idea for sustainable cities its being built in the desert they arent really affecting much..
People think that desserts are empty and dead but really they are flourishing ecosystems full of life and creatures that have adapted to the environment. The line is bound to have devastating effects on the local wildlife and migration, I remember seeing something about how the mirror outside will confuse birds and cause heat blasts from reflecting light
The saudis already ran out of money for the project
There's already an immense amount of devastation and waste inherent to the existence of our current cities, due in part because they were not built with any care for limiting either issues. How, pray tell, are you, as a TH-cam commenter with seemingly zero credentials, so sure that ideas like this would be as horrible as you imagine, or even just worse than present-day cities? Some facts or relevant data would be nice, at the very least.
Fun fact - they already gave up and moved to another project.
I don't see a problem with a linear city. Most cities started at a road junction and grew from there. But slurring existing cities would be near impossible.
"They were so preoccupied with whether they could, they didn't stop to think if they should"
This would give Ian Malcom and aneurysm only thing missing is dinosairs
Humanity's history in one sentence.
Or if they could lmao
No, they didn't even do the "whether they could" part.
They were so preoccupied about whether it looked cool on a dumb CGI press release, they didn't stop to think if they could.
Looks like a little too Snowpiercer to me.
Yea normal people living on the surface that might as well go to hell, while the rich people look down for amusement and can just walk away from any consequences.
Literally this
RIGHT!!!!!! Thank you!
Man can't wait to watch this in the theater lol
@@cerberus9562my brother in Christ you’ll be able to watch it out of your front door if ppl keep treating stuff like this as if it’s just a dumb concept
Imagine you live in the nice area of the Line and then the walking robot brings a group of blacks and browns to literally surround you.
This sounds worse than dystopian. It sounds like Hell.
This is just a dystopia waiting to happen. “Look honey, the Mobiles are here, I wonder what gifts they brought from the other parts of the city for us”. Cue them dumping their sewage and trash right on top of the non moving section
This idea is environmentally, ethically and politically terrifying and I'm overjoyed that it's been cut down by 98.6%
Can't wait til they miss multiple deadlines, because they cant fulfill the wishes of the Saudi Prince, then he gets pissed off and cuts the funding, leaving the half finished project to rot in the desert
@@carry7871 They've done this a dozen times before, they're used to destroying and altering huge pieces of space and then leaving their astronomically idiotic ideas there to rot. This is Tuesday for them.
@carry7871 Like those man made islands
it would look cool as hell though
Well, with the Masdar city PRT stripped down to two stations, I don't see much hope for any more than a token smoke and mirrors version of "The Line"... It's not as if there's a reputation for actually carrying these grandiose visions to actual completion...
Imagine the public works department dealing with all the sanitation waste, water lines, water main breaks, installing taps, water leaks, sewage overflows, sewage backups, drainage, and monitoring meters etc. on a moving city like this.
This sounds like a starting premise to a dystopian sci fi show that I would definitely watch.
my thoughts, dude
It's called 'Mortal Engines' from 2018...
Coruscant from Star Wars is quite similar except its not a line but a literal planet with layer after layer where the lower ones are the impoverished ones while the rich politicians, merchants were at the top. Another Piltover and Zaun in the world of Runeterra where Piltover is a very high tech city which produces all kinds of machinations combined with magic but the byproducts of said product are thrown down to Zaun a city that used to be on equal land like Piltover but fell down because of an earthquake. It is like coruscant it also has layers the upper one, middle, and lower where the lowest contain the most trash, pollution while the top has the least but overall Zaun is a hell hole no matter what layer you're on
It's like The Platform, but a city.
New cities usually pop up along major highways in US so it's not unusual to be in a line.
What is everyone's fascination with idealizing burning millions of gallons of fuel for the rich (those are the only ones that will be able to afford this kind of exclusivity, let's be honest) but criminalizing a vehicle slightly less fuel efficient than stock?
It’s cool.
It's cool.
It’s cool.
It’s cool.
This is essentially a giant public works project to protect the House of Saud from rebellion and ensure their survival for at least the next century.
Imagine having to go to work and it's 2 miles away in the morning and 10 miles at night and 25 miles on the weekend
Make it into the circle, moving in a loop you will save on accelerating and braking. Also you can cycle it through the seasons, holidays and cyclic events
Jesus every time they come up with something new it makes it clearer and clearer how the class divides are gonna be absolutely POPPING
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@@mariamendoza8934hi they’re not Christian its not like it’ll count against them. Feel free to follow that yourself though!
@@mariamendoza8934common misconception saying “oh my god” or “jesus Christ” is not what is meant by taking the lords name in vain and what it actually is, is much closer to those massive church preachers who drive million dollar cars using the lords name for personal gain.
@@felixsilver25 It's still offensive to people that are Christian. It's quite disrespectful to a lot of people for no reason.
@@WaterspoutsOfTheDeepwell it's offensive to non Christian people to push Christianity on others and that also happens very frequently.
Bro imagine they get into war. One strafe run, thousands dead
Thank goodness I wasn't the only one with morbid senses on this. After certain points I realized this would be really easy to attack
This is absolutely a security nightmare
Except a small amount of demolition charge could totally disable it's ability to move.
No big loss.
Then let's make sure that we will do our part in not starting any wars.
making a horrible idea worse, nice.
I have no idea why limiting a city in one dimension is considered as anything else than a pure hindrance by anyone. there is literally not a single advantage to this, the only selling point is hypothetical futuristic bs, which is never gonna happen and would work just as good or even better in a circular or square fantasy city
D&D fantasy tropes and Sci-Fi concepts becoming irl potential projects??
*Y E S*
I mean nice concept for a book or smth. But i just hate the whole neom stuff, its just... rich idiots pumping money into absurd bs
3mk
Someones gotta try out stupid ideas.
At least there's something new
They're paying people to do all the work
@@onionfarmer3044 this isnt a "maybe ketchup and peanutbutter work together". This shit is building a second disneyland next to the slums bruh
I love the entire idea of the line because it's a disaster waiting to happen, and I'm not even talking about the absurdity of the movable part idea
she's an architect not an engineer
@@luka3174
There are things wrong in that comment, I honestly don't know how to answer
@@XDRONIN nah im right, architects are an inferior breed
@@luka3174 In this video she is nothing more than an "educator", it's not like she is making up these ides.
honestly, when she started, i thought that she was going to suggest a train system and was confused on why that wasn't there to begin with. but that movable part is just straight dystopian.
Sounds like a script for a dystopian horror movie ...
Imagine forgetting where you parked your apartment on the moving bit 😂
The cost of maintaining the line after it is built will be more amazing than the line itself. But who am I kidding this project will never be finished anyway
My assumption is that the whole thing is a money laundering project of some kind. "Send a bunch of chumps into the desert to shove piles of sand around and pay each other a billion dollars a month."
It isn’t America, it’s already off the ground
Haven't they already announced that it won't be the line, just "The Nub" (I thank Trashfuture podcast for this pun)?
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Or we could just build normal cities
If everybody would think like this, we'd never progress/change. The world is changing constantly, why not try out new things? Even things like cars, cities, etc. should be challenged constantly. It might fail or succeed, but thinking that whatever we do now is the "normal", then we'd never see innovation. This doesn't mean we'll see these cities everywhere, but why not having new concepts? This is the beauty of being humans, always seeking new and different ways to do "normal" things.
@@dragosdydy your comment is so stupid i can't even come up with an anwser, the only thing i can say is there is a reason we have been building normal cities.
@@dragosdydy Most change is incremental. We didn't just start building skyscrappers, We didn't start with jet planes, We didn't start with cruise liners, and we didn't have hand held electronics at first.
We grow bit by bit until technology 100 years old looks completely different.
@@dragosdydy you see, building a city in a line makes everything as far away from everything as possible while also making it crammed. A moving part to a city would be a logistical nightmare. If we just build cities with good public transit people can get to where they need to go quickly.
@@dragosdydy because this concept is stupid.
We know how to build efficient cities. Lets just do that
This actually makes sense in a different form, as far as a linear city in a desert. It just lacks some gracious syncopation. The development runs in a straight line, but it changes in density like a diamond necklace spaced out with satellite cities strung out along it
China decided that its tofu dreg buildings werent dangerous enough standing still
I have an idea that could bring the city closer together, in terms of infrastructure, resources and geography. Instead of building in a line, you just build everything close together.
Wouldn't that cause traffic problems?
@@ZT-vr4wz Imagine traffic jams when you only have one road. And if there is an accident or something disrupts the line, then everything on either side is isolated from each other because of one incident.
@@zackrog1270 I'm sure they have thought of that. Or else why even bother building this?
@@ZT-vr4wz Doesn't matter if they thought of it; it's an inherent problem with the shape itself. Who knows why people do what they do?
@@ZT-vr4wzif you think the Saudi dictators have put an ounce of thought into any of these mega projects you are mistaken. This is a vanity project with no real purpose. The problem this city “solves” is space. Deserts, notoriously, are nothing but space.
Bro, I can already picture the pollution, toxic gas, and LARGE amount of crimes.
Linear Crimes
The line is going to be like Dubai, only rich people living there, it'll have few crimes happening compared to regular cities.
@@chroprsNot as much as you might think. They're certainly not going to be plunging their own toilets.
I personally don't think it's even gonna be built.
@@R41Ryani agree
They are also displacing the people who already live there with violence and the line is in the middle of a massive migration route for birds, which they know will kill millions of birds. And that’s without touching the slave labor they use to build like they did with Dubai.
I couldn't even imagine the rage when the engineer receive this work order from the architect.
As a New Yorker saying the upper west side and tribeca are completely disconnected is WILD. Even without the 4+ train lines and multiple bus lines, it’s a completely walkable distance. It would take maybe 2 hrs more or less depending on how fast you walk. Plenty of people bike farther than that on their daily commute. My commute to work is literally double that lmao (I take the train so it’s around 40ish min). The distance is around 6 miles/9.6 km for reference.
I think the idea is that they develop independently. I have no idea about NYC, but it's true in pretty much every city I've been in. Simply because some neighbourhoods have more money than others, so they have different services, architecture, needs, etc
@@LuisSoto-fw3if the idea that any neighborhood in a city is or develops "independently" of any or all other neighborhood in a city is... let's just say "independent" is doing so much work there that it lost all its meaning.
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God damn it we just want safer roads and more trees. Why are rich people trying to make these crazy sci-fi hell-scapes?
Honestly I want it to happen just to see what it looks like
because they know poor people will want to live there.....
Because it's ultimately their money and they can do it what they want with it unfortunately
Control, the governments of the world want to control the population completely. This is easily how they could do it.
And trains
Cs Lewis characterized hell as a place where the inhabitants continually move away from each other, for eternity.
A straight line should do the trick. 😂
This idea is so stupid it's crazy
The line is gonna become like cyberpunk fr fr, all the poor people at the bottom and the rich at the top
Saudi Arabia is already like that, royal family at the top and migrant workers at the bottom
It's not too dissimilar to high rises and sky scrapers now. We still have a hierarchy. It's just figurative.
@@levirognejensen1745Migrants aren't citizens of Saudi Arabia
Sounds like a great way to ignore specific locations of a city even blackmail them🤷♂️
especially for the people in the middle where they literally have nowhere else to go...
But it would be so much easier to manage everything for everyone if we could just curate everything they need!
@@gingabred2898 *control
if you're too poor to move it doesn't matter what shape the city is.
So like a regular city?
I hope you're working on the Line, because you reallly bring the right level of realism to an otherwise outlandish project.
Something about this project to me seems so terrific and dystopian to me... My brain is already picturing a thousand different ways in which it could go wrong. What's the benefit of having an extremely thin and long city anyways? The reason that cities work so well is that they're fully extended into the third dimension too, making them much more spread out and as a result better interconnected.
"See how this circle isn't next to that other circle? That's why The Line would work." 🤣 I'd be ashamed to have my name on this project.
Think of the sh*t tonne of money you would get though.
@@ptonpc I meant running a tech bro propaganda channel, not working on The Line. Then again, the line will be made by slaves so... 🤷♀️
Especially since it's hard to imagine two neighborhoods more connected than battery park city and upper west side.
You missed the point
@@xenopath8069 What fucking point? The fact that she used a basic fact to try and justify some bullshit?
Imagine a city
Imagine the support necessary for each building
Put an entire town rolling on top of that
30% of whatever little space could be found in the city is now occupied by support beams for the loudest, heaviest, and least stable tram to ever be suspended directly over a population.
The people paying for it wouldn’t care whatsoever, they aren’t the ones who’d be living there😂
structural engineering is pretty advanced given the modeling tools engineers have nowadays. although yeah this is quite, i dare say "stupid," idea. those arabs just have too much money. too much work for what is essentially just another city.
Here's an idea. This can become a prison big enough for all the world to ship their criminals in. A pricing scheme can be setup to cover running expenses which will be minimum anyway. Seperate segments according to the crimes committed. It's a less ridiculous idea than what the Saudis are selling
We have this thing called cars to connect two parts. The entire city doesn't move. But the people does. And they can move around freely and live anywhere they want.
This is like adding roller-skates to fix your square wheels.
When The Line is so absurd that any other absurd idea makes The Line sound like it's not so absurd anymore.
I call it the "Zip-Loc Line"!
man I'm sure "your commute to work will change constantly" is a great selling point for people
Considering where it is being built and the stratification already baked into it, the bit that moves would just be for the very rich. That is what the city is designed for anyway.
I don't think anyone living there has a 9-5 job to report to
The maintenance alone makes that impossible. It would always be broken down.
I didnt think anyone could make the idea any more stupid but you managed it.
this whole project is on another level of insane. Someone probably snorted a few lines too much, looked at the remaining ones and was like "hell yeah lets make that into a city"
Or you put metal boxes with many seats on their seperate rails, that run through the whole city with interconnnection points. So you create a high capacity transport solutions between all parts of your city and make it affordable, so everyone can use it, not just the richest people who would be able to afford living in a moving city.
once more trains prove themselves the pinnacle of public mass transit :)
Someone's been watching Adam something videos LOL
Or even better! make all services distributed with multiple interconnected redundancies so everything is walkable!
@@bryanrichlinski2886but nobody will walk further than they need too, thus maximising the problem of local communities becoming insular.
Interesting idea, but how could I prevent someone "undesirable" to freely walk from one neighborhood to the other? How could I blackmail the population by threatening to cut transport access to their block?
Through and through architecture student here I think I am in love. We could share our thoughts of megastructures and futuristic architecture for hours
I think a cold fusion reactor in every coffee maker would be a nice touch too
Absurd is a good word for this.
What if we take the line, cut it up in equal pieces and put those next to each other in a sort of radical square shape? That way , if your only road is blocked at one point, people can jump into the "second dimension" and go around that point. 🤯
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you mean build it like a normal city?
I actually never thought it possible but some how you managed to turn a really bad idea into an even worse one. Amazing 😅😅
This idea for hive cities would be interesting from symbiotic to parasitical walking cities
I know people hate The Line, but I love it! Such a cool idea.
Just read that some of the developers of this project just recently stated in a report that they will have to significantly scale back the entire project, stating "they want to use technology that doesn't exist yet" .
An elegant way of saying "we f*cked this up*
We got paid a lot of money to write up some BS scifi and make pretty CGI renders. For the final act, instead of a city you get an inflatable ball pit.
@@Zuriki09 But do we get extra time in it?
I imagine a general sense of spite and hatred towards the "moving" city portion, with that portion likely being the richer more corrupt part of society.
Furthermore, the whole thing looks like a prison! Imagine living in that thing
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It depends, I think if it's used more for commercial and entertainment rather than residential it could be cool, though the workers for it might need to live on it, kinda like a cruise ship
You know what this city would be good for a video game
Yeah, the city that kills you instantly. Either of heatstroke if the climate controls don't work since especially the lower levels will just not have wind, or of levels of depression that we can only see glimpses of in people who live in the 6 month night.
@@kreigguardsman3355I mean it also sounds sick for a movie or book, but incredibly dumb for real life
Can confirm there are people living in the french quarter who haven't left the quarter for years. Not because they're a hermit or don't travel on vacation. They just have what they want and need in the quarter.
One rainfall in Dubai gave the reality check how absurd these ideas are
"Mommy? Whats outside the walls?"
"War and suffering."
The line is the worst use of natural resources in a long time……
Ah yes, my busses often BEND IN HALF to go around corners