As the other guy mentioned, second gear is better for popping the clutch because its a closer match between your road speed and engine speed while hopefully having enough momentum to turn the engine and alternator over so it produces enough spark and compression the engine needs to run. If the engine is in first gear, the gear normally used at a complete stop, the engine will have to turn faster, probably around 5,000 to match the minimum speed which your inertia will turn the engine over. Second will let you still do 10-15 mph but it will only turn the engine around 3,700 and wont lock the rear wheel when the engine, spinning at 0 rpm is connected to the wheels and transmission which is moving at 3700 rpm, the clutch helps match the two and allows the bikes alternator and engine to turn and start. Also the starter button is not required, but have the bikes key in the on position. Hope this helps! TLDR: Use first when completely stopped, use second when moving.
just going to post this to help others like myself looking for help starting their bike. 1) Find a hill and be at the top of it 2) check your kill switch, turn your key to on, open the choke for those of us with them 3) put the bike in 2nd gear, hold in clutch. 4)start to roll down the hill popping off the clutch and giving gas at the same time. you can do this as many times as you want until you come to a stop. if these steps fail to start your bike you may need to phone someone to come out and charge your battery. * jump leads can be used car to bike but only if the car is turned off or else you run the risk of blowing your battery*
Glad you got it started my friend. When I bought my motorcycle two weeks ago first thing I invested in was one of those small jump start boxes. Fits in your tank bag or backpack. Well worth the money.
The battery on my 2016 ninja 300 was dead cause I had not started it in about 2 weeks and the weather turned cold. I tried this and I got it started after 3 attempts. Thanks for the video.
That's actually abnormal. Your bike should not have a dead battery after sitting for two weeks even if the weather is poor. Check for a short or something. But I'm glad the video helped.
I don't know what's worse- Having a dead bike, Or thinking you have a dead bike only to find you left it on first gear with the kickstand down... 🙃🤦♂️
Dude, THANK YOU! 24 months later and your third comment gives me a slap around the face 'THATS what you probably did!!!" and I had! Not ridden the bike so long cos of the pandemic I completely forgot about that!! SMH, Had not ridden for 4 months and the bike still started like a champ!!
You should put it in 2nd gear and push then release the clutch and when it starts you should hold the clutch again and use both front and rear breaks that would be more safer and control it better . that what I know .
It won't go into 2nd gear from a stationary position. It won't shift past N from stopped. It's a "feature" of the 300 to make it easier to get to neutral from stopped but I guess it would also prevent you from bump starting from 2nd.
@@isaksrensen6736 Glad to help lol. The 300 was a good bike for me. Traded it in for an aprilia Tuono 660 after a few years. I will say one other issue with the 300 is at least mine and a lot of others online have an inherent wobble if you release the front bars the bars would just automatically start oscillating like the start of a death wobble. Something about the factory head bearings so would be careful going no hands heh. And the aftermarket gear indicator only read right when the clutch was fully out. The Tuono had none of those issues at least. Be safe out there.
Don't know if you were taught to use the kill switch all the time, but I find killing the engine by simply turning the key off is better, especially if you're parking in a certain area where you don't want ANY chance of leaving your key in it. A good routine is "key off, lock, out," all in one swift motion. Kill switch should be for emergencies, contrary to the beliefs of the MSF Course. Pretty sure they only teach that so a new rider doesn't let go of the clutch while it's still in gear when reaching for a key and have the bike lurch out of their grasp.
well i start it on second gear(always) and i push it on flat surrface then jump on it and start it becouse my bike is lighter and i need to be on it so the back tire can get grip
Right now I’m having troubles with my 2011 Ninja 250r. Took it for a ride, Parked it in a parking lot , put the kick stand down and all of a sudden everything turned off on the bike. No dashboard lights, no nothing. Yes it was in neutral, the green dashboard light lit up before it all of a sudden died. I was with my boyfriend and somehow he got it running while I was trying to find a phone somewhere. He got it running, I got it in 1st , ready to take off out of the parking lot and then it stalls and all the electricity turned off again. Don’t know if it’s a battery, loose connector, clutch cable problem, etc. Any ideas ?
sg53000 I was just talking to a coworker about that the other day and he suggested the same thing. If I ever find myself in that unfortunate position again I'll give that a try. I don't suppose the displacement of the bike might influence the amount of strain?
ok so im pretty sure someone might have mentioned this or maybe im just wrong but it looks like second attempt, the key was in the off position. haha good extra workout though.
First. Never shut off your bike with the kill switch always use the key. Kill switch are for emergency only when you have no time to reach for the keys that is the reason why it is so easy to operate, so big and red, and so close to the throttle hand. Second. Always start your bike on 2nd Gear, First gear took to much momentum away from your running start. Third. It would really help if you unload your gear and your bag first before attempting to push start a bike, less weight, and you wouldn't die from heat stroke from pushing your bike with all your gear on. Other than that "GOOD JOB!"
I know I'm late to the party but that's kind've bad advice, there are many times where using the killswitch is better. You just have to get into a habit of taking out the key too, which I do by step-by-step going Killswitch Kickstand down Handlebars left Key to lock Key out.
So my battery is dead, pretty sure of it, if I manage to push start her up and get her running will I still need to change the battery or will it charge up from the usage, as stupid as that may sound 😅
Nas Rahman if it's just dead, then push starting will help you recharge it as long as you keep riding it for half an hour to an hour after. If there's something wrong with the battery and it will not hold a charge, then you can push start to get you going and ride it to a shop or something, but a new battery will definitely be needed.
You shouldn't have to hit the start button at all.. just have key on and in gear. Your momentum does the starters job for it.. With out power the button does nothing:) Ride safe!
xorbe2 Land of Rath Thanks for the correction, guys. In this case, it seems to have worked okay. I guess being in motion generated enough juice to allow the starter to assist in turning the engine over, but if I'm ever unfortunate enough to have to do it again, I'll try it without the button.
yep the whole reason to push start in gear is the momentum of the motor when it engages in gear does what the starter does. Your starter might be able to turn only because the motor is but it wont have the torque needed to help. Better to just leave it alone. Same in a car.. you turn the key to on and just pop the clutch in motion. It only charges when its running.
lol you need to learn how to push start a motorcycle....a) you waste SO MUCH hill coasting...you can start your bike going walking speed...you could have had 3 or 4 attempts each time you went down your little hill. b) always push start in 2nd gear. Lesson learned.
larabie2007 Yeah, I got some bad instructions off my phone right before I tried this. I've already received plenty of feedback on doing it right if the need ever arises again.
larabie2007 Good points. On this particular bike, the ninja 300 or kawasaki's with true neutral, can't go to 2nd gear once its gear has already been positioned to 1st gear.
larabie2007 I learned that bump starting in 1st can lock up the rear (learned that today). I got it going, but there was drama. I recorded it too... for posterity.
![Bike not starting in gear? Here is how you fix it. [Ninja 300]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/IjcgMUXQVtE/mqdefault.jpg)
As the other guy mentioned, second gear is better for popping the clutch because its a closer match between your road speed and engine speed while hopefully having enough momentum to turn the engine and alternator over so it produces enough spark and compression the engine needs to run. If the engine is in first gear, the gear normally used at a complete stop, the engine will have to turn faster, probably around 5,000 to match the minimum speed which your inertia will turn the engine over. Second will let you still do 10-15 mph but it will only turn the engine around 3,700 and wont lock the rear wheel when the engine, spinning at 0 rpm is connected to the wheels and transmission which is moving at 3700 rpm, the clutch helps match the two and allows the bikes alternator and engine to turn and start. Also the starter button is not required, but have the bikes key in the on position. Hope this helps!
TLDR: Use first when completely stopped, use second when moving.
just going to post this to help others like myself looking for help starting their bike.
1) Find a hill and be at the top of it
2) check your kill switch, turn your key to on, open the choke for those of us with them
3) put the bike in 2nd gear, hold in clutch.
4)start to roll down the hill popping off the clutch and giving gas at the same time. you can do this as many times as you want until you come to a stop.
if these steps fail to start your bike you may need to phone someone to come out and charge your battery.
* jump leads can be used car to bike but only if the car is turned off or else you run the risk of blowing your battery*
Glad you got it started my friend. When I bought my motorcycle two weeks ago first thing I invested in was one of those small jump start boxes. Fits in your tank bag or backpack. Well worth the money.
The battery on my 2016 ninja 300 was dead cause I had not started it in about 2 weeks and the weather turned cold. I tried this and I got it started after 3 attempts. Thanks for the video.
That's actually abnormal. Your bike should not have a dead battery after sitting for two weeks even if the weather is poor. Check for a short or something. But I'm glad the video helped.
ZerkerNewby I've got the same problem with mine right now
Austin Barnes same here lol 2 weeks. And I only purchased the bike from a dealership 2 months ago. I'm guna buy a charger now lol
Love the dedication lol!! I did same thing with my ninja 650 today in my parking garage. Will try to push start in the morning, nice vid!
I don't know what's worse-
Having a dead bike,
Or thinking you have a dead bike only to find you left it on first gear with the kickstand down... 🙃🤦♂️
Dude, THANK YOU! 24 months later and your third comment gives me a slap around the face 'THATS what you probably did!!!" and I had! Not ridden the bike so long cos of the pandemic I completely forgot about that!! SMH, Had not ridden for 4 months and the bike still started like a champ!!
My Honda hornet's batt is dead from all the snow, going to try this tomorrow. Great vid, thank you! 👍👍😃
Same thing happened to me, but luckily at home. About to try this, thanks
You should put it in 2nd gear and push then release the clutch and when it starts you should hold the clutch again and use both front and rear breaks that would be more safer and control it better . that what I know .
It won't go into 2nd gear from a stationary position. It won't shift past N from stopped. It's a "feature" of the 300 to make it easier to get to neutral from stopped but I guess it would also prevent you from bump starting from 2nd.
@@pfistor i know this comment is 5 years old, but i didnt understand why mine couldnt go to 2nd for push start. this helped so much man
@@isaksrensen6736 Glad to help lol. The 300 was a good bike for me. Traded it in for an aprilia Tuono 660 after a few years. I will say one other issue with the 300 is at least mine and a lot of others online have an inherent wobble if you release the front bars the bars would just automatically start oscillating like the start of a death wobble. Something about the factory head bearings so would be careful going no hands heh. And the aftermarket gear indicator only read right when the clutch was fully out. The Tuono had none of those issues at least. Be safe out there.
I did the same thing last night...DERP! Thanks for the video im gonna try starting my bike now!
dont forget to up the choke for those without the fancy fuel injection starter
Mikeyy12 C.Lennz wow ok dick
or with any big cubic inch bike. this universal trick only works if the battery is "just" discharged and if you managed to get enough speed.
Do i need to pish the start button also once i release the clutch???
4:35 is just a typical sucker in your way when you have a problem and then the guy with the pickup was readying himself to thwart your 3rd attempt.
Kickstarter FTW!
Don't know if you were taught to use the kill switch all the time, but I find killing the engine by simply turning the key off is better, especially if you're parking in a certain area where you don't want ANY chance of leaving your key in it. A good routine is "key off, lock, out," all in one swift motion. Kill switch should be for emergencies, contrary to the beliefs of the MSF Course. Pretty sure they only teach that so a new rider doesn't let go of the clutch while it's still in gear when reaching for a key and have the bike lurch out of their grasp.
well i start it on second gear(always) and i push it on flat surrface then jump on it and start it becouse my bike is lighter and i need to be on it so the back tire can get grip
Right now I’m having troubles with my 2011 Ninja 250r. Took it for a ride, Parked it in a parking lot , put the kick stand down and all of a sudden everything turned off on the bike. No dashboard lights, no nothing. Yes it was in neutral, the green dashboard light lit up before it all of a sudden died. I was with my boyfriend and somehow he got it running while I was trying to find a phone somewhere.
He got it running, I got it in 1st , ready to take off out of the parking lot and then it stalls and all the electricity turned off again. Don’t know if it’s a battery, loose connector, clutch cable problem, etc.
Any ideas ?
Good workout
after you build momentum, you let go of the clutch completely and then hit start button? or do you ease off clutch and hit start button?
thxs bro this got me out of a bind
I use 2nd or 3rd gear to pop it down a hill
pushed on 2 gear and will start.
It puts less strain on the engine if you push start in second gear rather than first.
sg53000 I was just talking to a coworker about that the other day and he suggested the same thing. If I ever find myself in that unfortunate position again I'll give that a try. I don't suppose the displacement of the bike might influence the amount of strain?
ok so im pretty sure someone might have mentioned this or maybe im just wrong but it looks like second attempt, the key was in the off position. haha good extra workout though.
You should have tried to shift to first and then second if you could. Second is much easier. I did it with my Ninja 300
is it a sage software building there?
First. Never shut off your bike with the kill switch always use the key. Kill switch are for emergency only when you have no time to reach for the keys that is the reason why it is so easy to operate, so big and red, and so close to the throttle hand.
Second. Always start your bike on 2nd Gear, First gear took to much momentum away from your running start.
Third. It would really help if you unload your gear and your bag first before attempting to push start a bike, less weight, and you wouldn't die from heat stroke from pushing your bike with all your gear on.
Other than that "GOOD JOB!"
I know I'm late to the party but that's kind've bad advice, there are many times where using the killswitch is better.
You just have to get into a habit of taking out the key too, which I do by step-by-step going
Killswitch
Kickstand down
Handlebars left
Key to lock
Key out.
Holy balls... 300's are quite as hell. I was like "umm, is it on?" When I pushed started my fz1, it gave a loud and clear "vrooooooom". Stock muffler
I think you just needed to dump the clutch faster lol, I do mine in 2nd gear so I don't lock the rear in first.
OMG...a TRON reference!!!
So my battery is dead, pretty sure of it, if I manage to push start her up and get her running will I still need to change the battery or will it charge up from the usage, as stupid as that may sound 😅
Nas Rahman if it's just dead, then push starting will help you recharge it as long as you keep riding it for half an hour to an hour after. If there's something wrong with the battery and it will not hold a charge, then you can push start to get you going and ride it to a shop or something, but a new battery will definitely be needed.
Not sposed to push it in gear your sposed to push it in neutral and bang it into first, as soon as you get it into gear it should start
nice
Put in first gear ??? haha If it was in second gear, already running the first try (sorry a bad english)
You shouldn't have to hit the start button at all.. just have key on and in gear. Your momentum does the starters job for it.. With out power the button does nothing:) Ride safe!
In fact, hitting the starter button may sag the remaining electrical system entirely, and prohibit the bike from bump starting.
xorbe2 Land of Rath
Thanks for the correction, guys. In this case, it seems to have worked okay. I guess being in motion generated enough juice to allow the starter to assist in turning the engine over, but if I'm ever unfortunate enough to have to do it again, I'll try it without the button.
yep the whole reason to push start in gear is the momentum of the motor when it engages in gear does what the starter does. Your starter might be able to turn only because the motor is but it wont have the torque needed to help. Better to just leave it alone. Same in a car.. you turn the key to on and just pop the clutch in motion. It only charges when its running.
get a bettery tender people
Or you accidentally flicked the kill switch whilst trying the roll start.. 😡
My battery literally is dead from a week without use, yay...
lmfao... when you are not a f@#$ing engineer.. lol
ur lucky u had a Bill my ass was unlucky on flat ground and dirt lol
lol you need to learn how to push start a motorcycle....a) you waste SO MUCH hill coasting...you can start your bike going walking speed...you could have had 3 or 4 attempts each time you went down your little hill. b) always push start in 2nd gear. Lesson learned.
for god sakes man, don't "hit the start" while the bike is trying to start under load.
larabie2007 Yeah, I got some bad instructions off my phone right before I tried this. I've already received plenty of feedback on doing it right if the need ever arises again.
larabie2007 Good points. On this particular bike, the ninja 300 or kawasaki's with true neutral, can't go to 2nd gear once its gear has already been positioned to 1st gear.
larabie2007 I learned that bump starting in 1st can lock up the rear (learned that today). I got it going, but there was drama. I recorded it too... for posterity.
+John Canales
You can, you just have to do it while pushing it forward, the clutch can be in.
kevin
do it in second gear dammit
mate it start so much easier in 2nd gear clown !
Recommend using 2nd gear.. an u have a nice scooter. 300cc LoL
is it a sage software building there?