Sig P320 M17 Review
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As a glock guy ,I absolutely love the M17 I love it so much I bought a M18 for me the trigger is perfect first shots right out of the box 150 rounds 124 grain all head shots I keep the M17 with the 21 round mag in my car and I carry the M18 in my waist band my glocks are now sitting in the safe no plans to change that
I picked up a P320 compact yesterday. Spent several hours on the range putting hundreds of rounds through it. WOW!!! What an amazing pistol. It’s will be my EDC. Went today and put money down on the P320 M18. Can’t wait to get that one home!!!
Picked one up about a 2 months ago, when compared to a glock 19/17 I like it better. The grip angle and weight behind the trigger add up to better follow up shots and more precise shooting, people will say “high bore axis” but that’s just the glock fan boys this is a great gun, reliable and enjoyable to shoot, I would trust this gun with my life and Im damn sure this would win the fight, there’s a reason the us military went with it. Pick one up sig really knocked this one out of the park.
The only reason that the military went with the m17, is because sig offered it at a lower price. Glock really won
@@deltaactual8286glock wasn’t modular and the safety was trash
Picked up my first 320 M18 W-model from the exchange at Parris Island. I'm a Glock fan boy and I was surprised how well this gun shot for me. So nice that I sold my G19X. Everyone that has not tried one of the P320's needs to shoot one for a day. Good review
Ive always been just a s&w fan. But went window shopping with my oldest boy yesterday. And he has his heart set on this one. So were about to get the s&w M906 9mm for me (my favorite) and get my son this one for his first pistol. And going to battle it out at the range to see who does better. Thanks for the review. I wanted to make sure his first is something he will always take pride in. And something he can easily learn from.
I’ve shot this a few times on the range and it’s a solid firearm and easy to shoot well. Great review!
This is my favorite pistol I own. I like training with the manual safety since I do a lot of AR shooting.
I have a 320 with the romeo and for me nothing compares to the accuracy which is what matters most at the end of the day. However the feel and function of m & p and glock are way better.
Love the whole P320 line since I first shot one. Favorite Striker fired gun. I need to get me one!!!
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To me the M17 is a very reliable , well engineered , simplistic gun..... it feels very rugged to me, and that carries over to the trigger as well, its definitely not a competition type trigger.
My son have one, very good gun. When we go to the range,and I shoot it I am more accurete than with my glock.( my glock have standard glock sights, and always hit center mass) The only bad thing is that the color shows the dirt more. But my son love that color. He is in the Army NG!
Wow the comments are sad. Heaven forbid a reviewer makes a freakin mistake. Anyways, great review.
I have a M18, I don't own a Beretta.. The biggest gripe for the M17/18 is (as a lot of others), is the wide rear sights. I'm not as accurate with it as I am with other platforms. Growing up in the 80's/90's I'm used to having a safety it's normal for me to swipe my non safety wepons it just muscle memory.. All in all, I like it but it's not my first choice to carry, I'm just one of those weird people that a Glock fits and I can shoot very well.. As I say all this, I'm carrying a CZ P-07 lol..😎 With more time I'm sure I'll get better with the Sig platform. Good video and hope you have a great weekend, until I see you again, stay safe.
Sig won at the end because Glock's bid was too much higher for the Army to justify the cost difference (almost twice as much if I remember).
Lol glock wasn't even close to winning. The m9a3 would have won but had to many changes is why sig one
2 years later I purchased one! Pretty much everything they said is on cue. A great functioning duty pistol. My trigger is at 6 lbs. and not 7.
Very enjoyable review, long time viewer, keep doing what you do!
I was not a big fan of it out of the box. It needs a trigger BAD!! It also needs the extractor tuned or re-tuned because about every 2 or 3 shots it throws hot brass on me, I even notice yours was doing the same thing. So here's my problem, you spend $800 bucks on the weapon then have to do a $100+ trigger install, then have to send it back to Sig for 6 weeks to get the extractor tuned and when get it back you've got a $1000+pistol that's now in the same class as every other $400-$500 pistols on the market out of the box. Why bother?
I paid 649.99 in the time of covid, and have none of those issues!!! it's good to go as is, I just need 2 more of those 21rd mags!!!
@@Wildwestwrangler and here we have a Sig bootlicker.
21 round mag, not 19, the M17 is my EDC along with an EC9s that is coyote tan as a backup, the sig is probably my favorite of everything I have
Yep 21 round is correct. Had to request them separately from sig to get them for my wife's m18.
@@philthy5058 I'd like to handle the m18 myself, I tend to conceal my M17 pretty well but the M18 sure seems easier but I wouldn't want to sacrifice the accuracy if theres a noticeable difference between the 2, given the longer barrell I just assume it would be a bit different
It’s more safer to have the trigger heavier or heavy because others they have the trigger so sensitive by only just one a little bit touch the fires gos off that’s why I recommend a preferred Sig Sauer and 18 or 17 because of the trigger is really really important to have heavy trigger and you touch the trigger I use the trigger so sensitive if you touch it a little bit so I highly recommend the Sig trigger is more safe others have sensitive triggers
I love the P320! I have a P320 compact and a XFive Legion. I really want a M17 and should have gotten one whenever they were $599
Made an impulse buy on an M17 about a year ago. Picked it up for 600 bucks. Haven't looked back. I love it. It's been a great gun so far.
@@trevorharley4475 I want to get one, but don’t think they’re legal In Cali. I looked up more on it, at least for the p320 a year or two ago it was illegal. I’m more new to handguns in general and not sure how to go about getting one. Figured I’d just go to a sheriff’s office
@@timezone107740 you can't get one because the p320 series was released after 2010. in California you're stuck with gen 3 glocks and guns on roster that were released before 2010!!!
The M17 is Wicked!
Yeah sure, the Sig is a good gun..."meets technical requirements". I dont need to buy thousands on a budget, so I prefer a more premium pistol. Heck, even in it's class, I still prefer the S&W M&P.
I’m with you. The M17 is ok. The M&P feels better.
S&W needs to up their game with being customizable. Its a great gun out of the box, but lacks the ability to be modified.
Do you mean like change barrels and the slide and have a whole new gun in a new caliber like you can do with the 320, or after market support? Just curious. I have shot both at the range and I liked both, but the M&P ergonomically felt better, although they both felt very good.
I must have gotten lucky, because my m17 trigger is only pulling right at 6 pounds
Ejection looks weak!! IMO the Beretta APX would’ve be a better choice and not to mention the simplistic design of the Apx it a better one to me. Yes the chassis removal is easier on the 320 but with the grip panels no need to swap unless your looking for a different color frame. Just my thoughts. Great vid as usual
The ejection is far weaker on the APX.
Michael Stevens I was referring at 9:40 the ejection looked weak. From MY experience and MY opinion I think the Apx is better. Learn how to read i said IMO
I have the p320xvtac and I love it did a trigger job on the springs it is now 3.5 to 4 which I love it's my edc
The Sig did not "beat out " the M9A3, it was purely a financial bean counter decision and Sig will regret almost giving this gun away after the military nickles n dimes for years to come
Every other test video on the M17 and M18 had a trigger pull of 5.5 to maybe 6 lbs.. And thats what mine is on my M18.. I also sold my Beretta M9 and my Glock 19 after i shot 1,000 rounds through my M18 with No issues. I like it much better than the Glock, especially the trigger.... Thanks for the video
The P320 platform is my favorite. P320 compact is my edc
Could you place the P320-RX slide to the M17 frame? The RX sights are much improvement from the M17's rather chunky rear sight. The taller profile RX sights are better suited to installing an RMR. It looks like the M17 rear sight requires removal to attach an RMR(?)
P320 M17, Glock 19X, and Beretta M9A3? Buy all of three, and find out which one is best for you. Stop bickering and complaining over which one is "better".
I love my m18
My p320x full size was 629.00, with the "carry grip module", 500 rounds through it, no issues so far, 2 17rd & 2 21rd mags . I guess the price went up, I have the Sig x3 night sights too.
This is off topic. Whats going on with the P320 law suit for NDs? Havent heard anything lately.
Would like your opinion on this. Great vids. Learn alot.
Just picked one up today at the gunshop today used for 500 can't wait to take it to the range love how you guys do videos together I wish I could get my wife into shooting with me
I have the same gun. I love it
Is it me, the lighting, or is that more 2 tone than my P320 in coyote tan?
2:50 21 rd mag not 19
2:27 there is nothing there so you can slide the base plate off for cleaning
5:10 It's the M17 full size and M18 compact....too much COD?
Thanks Great in depth review.
I have both and love both ,
The M18 is the compact version of the M17, also a military sidearm there is no M19 though, I believe they recently made the M18 available to the public also
I purchased a M18 in May, it was available before then. It's a neat wepon.
M17 is the one Standard Military uses and the M18 is for Commander and higher. There is no M19
After watching the recoil impulse close here I think I'll stick with my m&p 2.0 5 inch.
Shoots like butter I bet. Sweet hand canon.
Sold my CORE 5” for a Gen5 G17MOS.
I was never really a fan of the p320, but I do love me some coyote/fde, and the gun shop I was working at got two of the m17’s in stock, so based on color and the fact that it’s the army’s new sidearm I had to get it. Turns out to be my favorite handgun to shoot. I hate the safety and slide lock placement but you do get used to it pretty quickly
I picked up an M17 without a safety. Love it. It has been a very fun and accurate gun to shoot.
The Army took huge step backwards from the Beretta. These Sig Sauer M-17s are cheaply made throw away pistols, the materials are cheap, it is unbalanced and grip feels cheap, the trigger sucks, nice sights. The BLUF, the contract went to the lowest bidder that met the contract specs, I predict the Army will replace it soon.
My sentiments, exactly. The Army chose it as it was the cheapest acceptable option - cost for the Army is $85 or so. There were some politics as well, for them not testing it properly. It looks boxy, cheap and plastic-ky, with high bore, heavy trigger and shoots when dropped, but it is "mo-dul-aaar". Who gives a rats ass, do you think the Army will custom fit the handguns for every solder?! No way and no how. At this price ($85) after a year service if it break goes in the decommission garbage. Sig's business plan is - get the Army contract at all costs, make up the difference with the fanboys at x10 price.
Yes, but that's the point, it's a lego gun and a "disposable" gun so its service life can be extended almost indefinitely.
@@dev--null This is literally better than the Glock and beretta in every aspect
Both eyes open!
now get yourself a wilson combat grip module,,,dunnn
Thats my next move for mine
Add the weights to the grip too; secure with JB weld instead of silicone for more weight yet. Shoots like a dream.
2:05 If that was Beretta's official POV regarding this handgun's reputation and not being aware from the entirety of the US military that had been using it for 30 years? That's just ignorant af. I was unit armorer in early 2000's across the pond in Germany for Big Red One. It was known then of its less than stellar reputation. Beretta playing dumb to try and get sympathy comes across as desperate and clueless on their part. Just bought the M17 myself a couple days ago on base. Compared to the Beretta M9 I was used to as an armorer, the M17 just has a much better feel to it. Heavier, chunkier, more solid fit for a handgun--miles better than the M9 from Beretta. (My wife got the Glock 19x couple months ago... the 2nd place handgun of that contest if I'm not mistaken. It's about 5oz lighter and 1/4" smaller in measurements too. Overall, perfectly content with the M17... both as a gun owner and as a military service member knowing that's the direction the military went for their next handgun.)
Had one and sold it. Still got my x5 legion tho.
So much kickback on it Dayum!
Nice video, I just got that gun and it's my first gun.
I prefer a pistol that doesn't shoot by itself. Let's not forget the lawsuit, which has not been resolved as of Dec 2020!!! Anyone paying attention? If you accidentally drop this firearm, or bump into something while wearing it, it may discharge! I know many in LE, including in my family that will not touch this firearm until the issues are resolved! Are you really willing to take a chance?
Awesome video!
Do they make a AXG Scorpion grip module version for the M17 yet? I ask because of the thumb safety.
I love love love my Sig,s. I have the 17 and one more 320. Talk about a beautiful weapon and they make me look like I can actually hit something. I,m a much better rifle shot. I have glocks too but I love my Sig,s better!!!
I’m getting one for sure
i really hope and wish i could also have one
Cool, now just need it in 10mm
Military is called M-17 & 18 ,there is no M-19 !!!
M19? You are playing too much Call of Duty. It is called the m17 in the military lol. It's also a 21 round mag not 19. Great gun!
M19 was for licensing & copyright issues for the game since the devs couldn’t pay for the royalties to use the name.
FireheartSamurai right
He did say m17 at the beginning of the video
Kevin Wise Go to 5:00. I'm not arguing that he is reviewing a m17. He stated that the gun the Army uses is called the M19 instead of the M17. The M19 is a fiction firearm used in Call of Duty that closely depicts the m17/m18. I was just correcting his information.
@@hawkeyes423 might have also been a miss speak on his part, it'll happen from time to time, we are all on the same page at least in knowing what he meant to say and all that
How is this compared to the 4.25inch m&p 2.0? I have the m&p 2.0 and was looking at the sig too
Voldemortadella can't go wrong with either
I know back in 2016, 2017 Sig paid out millions of dollars for the 320s discharging without trigger pull. Do you have any worry that this could still be an issue? I want to get a M17 but that is the one thing holding me back.
nope. they fixed it.
You should check out cbc news in Canada. They did a pretty in depth article about how the Canadian special forces are going away with the sig 320 because it is unsafe. Also check out God, family, and Guns TH-cam page. He posted a super interesting video 7 months ago of multiple malfunctions even after the "fix" There is also a lawyer in Florida that posted a great posting on sig 320 lawsuits. I can find his info and give it to you if you want
I would like to get a military issued m17 to add to my military gun collection but I don't think I would ever carry one after all of the research I have done when thinking about getting one.
I would like to get a military issued m17 to add to my military gun collection but I don't think I would ever carry one after all of the research I have done when thinking about getting one. Maybe in a few years if the lawsuits die down. I love this Sigs I have so hopefully this gets resolved.
Question is -- get this or the M18, my LGS has both
Depends on the application
Just bought the earlier gen with no side mount safety and love it
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What would u recommend more p320 or p320 m-17
Nice review 👍
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I don't like the trigger sluggish with a bad reset
Where can i buy this one? it seems to be out of stock mostly on refutable online stores.
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How much does it cost ?
Chris Christ Around $600. I got mine for 590.
i got mines during rona times and it cost me about $740 after tax
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Got mine $450
my m17 came with no safety one 17 round mag and 2 21 round mags
Same i love the gun! Not s big fan of manuel safety’s
Same here! I love it. I've got a pretty damn good universal safety. I call it my finger.
Mine didnt have the patch 😵😵 but did have 2 21 rnd mags and a 17rnd mag
That is one Rough looking Ticket ..
I have carried multiple pistols for work over a 35 plus year span. I initially bought 2 M18's but have since sold one and the other will be going on GB. There is too shady of a history behind the P320 pistols. Sig seems to rush too many products into production before enough R&D is put into them forcing them to correct issues after the fact. Mine shot OK but Glock should have won the contract, always comes down to money and behind the scene politics. The big flaws are high bore axes and low tang so the pistol is more snappy than a Glock and non adjustable rear sights. The grip should have been thinner as well to fit women and wen with smaller hands better. So if it shoots to the left or right that is what you're stuck with and you have to compensate with sight picture. I also did not like the trigger. I am not a trigger snob and like the factory Glock triggers. I own or have owned over 100 pistols and have ben an armorer for over 30 years on multiple brands of firearms so I have a vast knowledge and use of various handguns. I just wish we could have gotten better pistol for our soldiers. Our Glocks never failed us but the government and bureaucrats did not want to listen to those of us that actually use them...
I understand what you're saying but that was a long time ago and from what I know, the issue has been resolved. Remember all the issues Glock has with the Gen 4? They were fixed and people moved on from it
Wow, the inaccurate information in this post. I own a Glock 19 Gen 4, Beretta M9 and the Sig M18. The Sig M18 with medium grip module (contrary to your post they come in different sizes) was just a shade too big for me to get the first joint seam of my trigger finger comfortably on the trigger. Unlike the Glock 19 Gen 4 and especially the M9, all I had to do was spend an extra $50 to purchase the small grip module and the M18 fit me perfectly. With the Glock 19 Gen 4 I had a similar issue and purchasing a smaller grip module was not an option. Changing the back straps was not enough. I had to spend hours trying to custom fit it by removing the finger grooves and the original stippling and redo the entire grip shape. I realize that Glock submitted a variant of the 19X for the trials. The 19X fits me fairly well BUT as Glock found out, the US military is no longer satisfied with a one size fits all approach or with fire control units not being easily replaced. With the M9’s aluminum frame…..that is not an option. With the M9, I have to completely change my grip to effectively reach the DA trigger position. So, with the size of hands being very different in our armed forces male and female personnel and keeping the manual thumb safety like the M9 and 1911s, Sig’s M17/18 was the obvious choice for our military’s current and future members. Glock could have offered more variations in grip modules and added a manual thumb safety……they chose not to do that.
@@jeffmcclendon3835 You must be a Sig fan boy because all the information in my post is accurate.
@@Garrisondive I own and shoot Sigs, Glocks and Berettas. If I am a “fan boy” of any brand it would definitely be Beretta not Sig.
Comes with a 17rd mag and 21rd mag well mine did
17rd and two 21rd mags
Is this Massachusetts compliant?
I'll let you know my opinion once I've finished building mine.
19x for me
Do you have the Glock version of the Army submission to compare all 3?
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5:01 *"M19" ??*
9:11 JELLO TIME
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Good luck with finding these 2020 lol
Found one for $620 at scheels in 2021
@@richardboschsuero4535 found one at cabelas 599
@@TheSupertitan53 nice real nice, check out the flex mp17 raider
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She has one eye open and shooting a little too slow, if in a case someone tries to rob you or your house R.I.P your wife if she's alone XD
The CZ p10 F is a way better gun than this.
Jesus dude. Stop talking in the beginning and maybe you’d get more subscribers, views, and likes. Skip to 1:40.
Bros crying in the comments
You're an idiot if you think I was crying! Haha! Just can't stand ppl that all they do is talk unnecessarily like you.