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From an old retired Army guy...I was first issued a 1911A1. Years later I carried an M9 on two deployments. I also have carried 1911s and 92Fs as a copper. I love both of them. I got an M17 and I think it's the best handgun the Army has come up with so far. As far as the they guy in the video talking about what he likes and doesn't like.... who cares? The Army wants and extra safety because most troops who will carry a pistol in the Army, they will get very little if any training (machine gunners, 1st Sergeants, Officers, REMFs and a few others who will fire 36 rounds to qualify, then the pistol will sit in a holster for the entire deployment (except when going into the mess hall and having to pull it at the clearing barrel).
My wife got the Glock 19x couple months ago and I just bought this on Black Friday sale at the BX on base. Went from $720 to $575 for the gun, 3 mags, cleaning kit, trigger lock, and case... and no tax since on base. Great review... as someone that's been military since '98 I'm ok with a little blemish from days at the range.
Unfortunately SigSauer in Germany must close the doors because of the bad politics in Germany. All Guns now are produced in USA. In USA is much better politics for firearms production. Greetings from Germany.
Love my M17, trying to find a small grip module. You're right it was about $650 and it came in a nice plastic case with 1 17 round and 2 21 round mags. I also bought the M18 slide assembly which is the 3.9 barrel. My daily carry is the XDm .40 in a BlackHawk Leather IWB and this Grip module (frame) fits in the holster perfectly. The imprint of the XDm on the leather is exactly the same as the M17. So I can pop out the XDm and drop in the M17 without any problem. Mine came without the "Safety" so I'm happy with that, I do carry with 1 in the chamber and I did try the drop test with a snap cap and could not get it to fire. There is a little lift on the barrel as you fire but easy to control after a mag or two, had virtually no issues shooting the M17 right out of the box. I did wipe off a little of the oil on the barrel and slide assembly but that was all. I shot brass and some steel shells without a problem. I put about 500 rounds thru it on the first time out and the M17 worked without failure. The second time I which to the M18 slide assembly and again it took a couple mags to get it centered and flawless after that.
Excellent review. Covers the gun good and bad in detail. I have owned and collected many guns over the years. We all have our favorites and are lucky to live in a time where most of us will find something we love to own and shoot. Again enjoyed your review. Thanks
I have to say, i grew up sbooting Rugers, S&W's, Glocks, and Taurus. I favored the Ruger P90 .45 ACP until i shot the Glock 21 .45 ACP. I fell in love with glocks and found the Glock 17 and 19 to round off my fanboy top 3. In 2017, i had my first opportunity to shoot my first ever Sig Sauer. It was the Sig Sauer P320 9mm compact. I was used to carrying full size and only shooting a compact at the range. When i first shot the P320, i fell in love with and had to test it again as it felt right for me. At the beginning of tgis year, 2018, i finally purchased a Sig Sauer P320 9mm compact and have never looked back. Its been the perfect match for me and hasnt left my side since. Ive also not had any failures with it.
Really liked your review. Good coverage in identifying shortcomings. Based on your review, among all others, I went out and purchased a P320 M17. I can live with the shortcomings, had to have it. Shout out to Centerfire Range in Olathe, KS. Great people.
Im commenting as im watching and my answer is a resounding F'CK YEAH its worth it. I used to hate Sigs until the M17. Mine came with 1 17 and 2 21 round mags 🙂
Absolutely love all my sigs........ just picked up the 17 and is now my all time favorite one to shoot......and I own plenty of nice pistols..... but am having a blast with this one
Excellent review! I own a standard P320 (nitron, no external safety), and fully agree with your experience: weak/cheap polymer, easily dentable/scratchable; weak/cheap slide finish, easily scratchable.
I have a Sig p320 carry and I absolutely love it. Shooting it side by side with a 19x and I honestly think mine is just as good or better and I bought a bare bones stock p320
Great video, KS. I agree with you and the others who've already commented about the finish. I love Sig, love my P229, but the last few years have really been tough watching their quality control issues. I want them to succeed and thrive yet they seem, forgive the pun, to keep shooting themselves in the foot.
Thank you Aaron! Yeah, the finish is disappointing indeed. I’m not sure why they aren’t pulling things together more but maybe they are concentrating on the military stuff. Hopefully they will get back on track. Cheers!
Quick correction for reference. The m17 is not cut for a Romeo 1. Per MHS requirement it was too be cut for a Leopold Deltapoint Pro. Supposedly Sig is going to release a new Romeo that fits on a DeltaPoint footprint sometime this summer, but it has yet to be released.
I just purchased a P320 M17 and will receive it in a week. I’m a retired USAF Cop so I carried the S&W Model 15 (stupid gun for law enforcement) and the Beretta M-9, so I’m very excited to try this out. I’ve been carrying a Springfield XDs .45, but I’m getting older and thought I’d go back to a 9mm. This was a great video, and it helped to assure me that I’ve made a good choice.
KSGunGuy A good topic for the Live Stream might be the evolution of handguns and phases gun owners go thru as we get older. Revolvers,1911's, DA/SA, and Strikerfired. Having gone through the evolution and age factor I notice several different types of firearm enthusiast. There are practical, tactical, shooter's, collectors and many other phases we go thru. Different mentalities on carry from CCW, Combat, Home Defense and SHTF . All experts of course! LOL. Just thought it would be interesting conversation. Thanks!
Thanks for the video. The first shipment of M17s came to the 101st ABN with tan controls. The rest that come from Sig will look like this, FDE with black controls.
Hey there KS I own 2 p320s the x-carry and the after recall compact. All in all I like the ease to clean and the modular capability of the firearms. My thoughts on this version well meh I own 2 as I said before. Personally I like the x-carry grip module and trigger. As always informative and non bias keep it up brother.
Not trying to be nasty: but Sig's video says rear sight plate is NOT cut for Sig RX, as other 320's are: but are cut for the official contract Leupold Delta Point, a definite improvement IMHO! While I'm a lover of Sig guns, as both a former dealer for 15 years and a consumer, their accessory products have been junk! Strong statement: but I stand by it! Very recently learned Sig optics are manufactured in China and shipped as parts to US and assembled here! Now you know why Romeo's, etc are so much cheaper than Trij RMR, Leu Delta Point, etc.! Personally, I think it is outrageous to force use of Sig Romeo's in all RX guns, except M17 contract guns which MUST have plate for Delta Point which would be only way I'd buy any Sig RX. Note Sig's site says different plate coming for Romeo on M17; but then it won't really be a M17 will it?
I could care less about the finish. I just want a gun that is accurate, reliable, and will feed any round you can feed it. This gun feels great in my hands, the trigger is very light which I like. The trigger on my Taurus G3 is heavier which I believe can lead to being more likely to pull shots more. I will be purchasing this next week when I get paid and take it to the range soon. Great review!
I would be contradicting myself if I said yes. I’ll stick by my non poly Sig stance for now. Great start to the video none the less. Watching on to the end. Not sure why the made the RMR design rear sight exclusive like the TP9SFx. The finish really doesn’t look durable. Safe queen? I think I would take the FN 509 Tac at about $200 Plus extra dollars over this but I’m sure it will sell well. Again, excellent review KS.
I have the 509 Tactical and the M17. I like 509 better, not to say the Sig is bad or anything. It definitely is what you would expect from a military issued sidearm.
I can only speak for myself, but I have had good experiences with the SIG P320. I shoot them as accurately as any handgun I have owned, and they have been reliable. Their ergonomics and trigger feel suit me very well. There has been rampant "SIG Hatred" on the internet ever since the P320 was awarded the US Army contract last year. Again, I can only speak for myself, but I have had good success with these handguns. Apparently many handgun purchasers agree, as the P320 has been a strong seller despite the hate and controversies of the previous year.
I agree that the 320 has gotten a bad wrap (as has the 365). I think no matter who won the contract, there would be strong feelings of animosity from the haters. Thank you and cheers!
@@KSGunGuy01 If you look back at ANY firearm adopted by the US military, you will find controversy, and major changes that had to be made during service. The M1903 Springfield, the 1911, the M1 Garand, the M16...all are revered today, but all had their issues during initial service. As for the SIG P365, that pistol did have some early issues due to SIG trying to rush it to market. I have a more recent P365 that is up to 800 failure free rounds. I love it and carry it every day. It really is an awesome carry pistol. Like with any gun I plan to carry, I always test them to MY satisfaction and I recommend the same to others.
Great video as always KS! I’ve had nothing but good experiences with my P320 Carry, despite having to send it in to Sig for 2 week’s, and I’d happily recommend it to anyone looking for a solid, dependable carry gun. The only reason I had to send it in is because I bought it when they first came out, but according to Sig (I live in NH so I walked in and talked to someone) the newer made models of the P320 already have the recall done on them. I’m actually considering getting a .357 Sig Compact version in addition to the 9mm I’m already enjoying. The Nitron finish on the Carry is actually pretty resistant to damage, so it’s a shame the finish in the M17 is so subpar! Thanks again for a thorough and enjoyable video 👍🏽
Thank you Kratos! That’s awesome that the Carry is working for you and I agree about the Nitron finish. I wish they had done something similar with this one. A 357 Sig would be sweet! Cheers as always brother!
Well hopefully Sig learns from the mistakes they made on the P320 & and the P365, or I think they’re going to lose quite a few customers! I haven’t had the chance to watch all of your older videos yet, but have you had any .40 or .357 Sig in the KS gun vault??
Ohhhh I totally understand that. The price of ammo has gone up a lot over the past couple of years! I enjoy shooting .357 Sig more than .40, and if you need a reason to justify buying it, just remember that .357 Sig is still a 9mm.......just on steroids!! 😁 Have a great weekend!
Nice review as always. I looked at an M17 today at my LGS. I liked it but not blown away. Still considering it but may very well end up with a Steyr L9 instead... cheers!
Great review indeed! Very knowledgeable, great ideas thrown around, including your ‘rail description’ ~ lol ~ I am a two-Glock owner, G37 and G21 and also have a S&W M&P 9mm ~ so it will be a welcome addition ~ the differences between them should be eye-opening! “And by the way”, they ask me, “Why did you get a GAP?!?” ~ Exacyly for that readon being that it was not very popular and a change from the 45 ACP round, the Glock auto Pistol 45 round is smaller and has more velocity ~ and the G37 has a much ‘sweeter’ recoil than the G21 ~ WILL LET YOU KNOW WHEN I GET THE SIG!!
Mine came with 4 magazines, 3 - 17rd 1 - 21rd. The ejection patern on my 17 is consistently out the side & NOT towards me. I love my M17 Thx for sharing the video.
Great video. The P320 compact is my go to edc in double stack. Thousand plus rds . . . Been flawless. Imo . . the best polymer double stack pistol ever. I will be investing in a x-carry soon with the Romeo red dot.
Its my understanding that the slides of the M17 (civie versions included) are machined to accept the Delta Point Pro, not the Romeo 1. So its fine that the rear sight is removed along with the plate because the Delta Point has a rear sight attached to it.
Sold my 226 a long time ago. I could not get used to the revolver like long trigger reset after shooting mostly 1911's. I now have the M17 and I will be keeping it as my house gun. I have the 21 round mag and a Streamlight TLR-1 HL light mounted on the rail.
New to your channel... Excellent presentation. Great tech talk and w/ some good laughs. My 461 chainsaw fits my M-17 rail perfectly :-)) The flamethrower, well, not so much. Subbed
About the iron sight being able to co witness with a rmr. The army chose the DeltaPoint pro for the m17 pistol mounted red dot contract. So the DeltaPoint pro actually has a co-witness sight that attaches to the rear of the sight. It is sold separately for civilian sales.
The ejection straight back at you ... that probably won the contract for Sig! Military pistol ranges have a 1 to 1 brass reclaim...shoot 40 rounds, return 40 empty casings. The M9 threw brass all over the damn place and looking brass in tall grass sucks. I bet the testers appreciated the nice little pile of brass at their feet!
Hi, just pick my Sig P320f M17 today. After inspecting it and wiping it down to take off the packing lube I did lot of administrative manipulations. It feels real good in the hand, the trigger is the best of the striker fired handgun manufacturers. The only thing that comes close to the feel in the hand is the Sig P226, P227, and the Beretta M9A3(M9A3 is a hammer fired handgun). I have owned this firearms for less than 24 hours and have not had a chance to take it to the range. But so far I like what I see and how it feels. I too am annal about the aesthetic as well as the durability of the exterior and interior finishes. If it's a combat and or law enforcement firearm you'd think the finishes would and should be very robust on all metal and non-metal surfaces not just for aesthetics but to protect the metal and non-metal surfaces to increase the life of the firearm. Currently my EDC for the last 25 years has been a custom handmade 1911 in .45 ACP by The Robar Companies. With the increase in 9mm cartridge and projectile technology lethality I'm concidering changing my EDC to one of the following Sig P320f M17, Glock 19X, or Beretta M9A3. Having increased firepower and weight reduction over a high capacity. 45 ACP 1911 and the current 9mm cartridge and bullet technology now has lethality as the .45 ACP of just a few years ago, i.e. Winchester SXT or Federal Hydroshock technology it makes sense to revisit what my EDC will be. Any input you have will be appreciated. Thanks for your presentation. Ricky from IBM, Ret. k4vms@comcast.net
Recently got the M17. Won't be my everyday carry gun, for that I have a Browning Hi-Power I brought in1974. Has been rebuilt and as gun people know is one great gun! My usual carry is the Xds .45. Nice size carry gun but have to adjust to not double tap as trained for soo many years. Got about 300 rds thru the M17. Some adjustment to the hi axis but no real problem. Like the trigger pull. After practice drawing now used to safety, grip thumb takes it down and stays there. Feels real natural. This will be my SHTF gun in a drop down tactical.
Nice video I have a p 320 RX I’ve shot it over 3000 rounds through it is what I should of said never had a failed ejection or any mishap knock on wood, I love the red dot
Kenneth Erkson I’ve been thinking about getting the 320rx compact. Is the finish on it the same as the M17? My brother in law has the 226 FDE with the Romeo 1 and I was hoping he’d want to sell it. He said NO! I did get his BCM AR-15 with a aimpoint compM4! though!
Fred Wilhite I have the Cabela’s p 320 RX I just looked at it not a scratch on it, I have 5 sigs none of them are scratched more than normal wear I have a p220 I bought 25 years ago it’s just normal wear.
Kenneth Erkson The only Sig I own right now is a M400 Ar-15. I plan on owning several more; the 320rx is on the top of the list. Is yours black? I’d like to find a FDE model; but I never saw one. Thought I’d have to buy the M17 and put the romeo1 on it. I guess I could get the fde frame and run a black slide. The function is more important! As long as it can get the job done just about any color would work! As long as it’s black,fde, camo, olive drab, or maybe grey!
Good review. I can’t comment on the M17 variant as I’ve never shot one. But I have shot the P320 and it didn’t feel right to me. Up until last Spring, I was an M&P guy and a Sig 226 and various revolvers. I decided that I need to get serious about my shooting skills and pick one gun to train exclusively with. So I rented a bunch of 9mm striker fired guns at my local range over a few weeks. While I was not a fan of Glocks, I found that the new G19 Gen 5 was perfect for me. I bought a new Gen 5 with factory night sights and started training, dry fire and live fire exclusively. I am happy with my choice. I’m not suggesting that Glock is better than Sig, my 226 was a great gun. I think we owe you a debt of gratitude for your reviews as they provide details to consider as we look for the right gun for us. Thanks.
Thank you very much! I agree, the gen 5 Glocks are great guns. I love my 19. I have heard others talk about the 320 not feeling right in the hand. An interesting finding for sure. Cheers Stephen!
Sig 320s are awesome pistols. I have 320fs fde and 320c as well as the fde. Also the x carry and the x five.. No issues with them at all. Yes I'm sig fan boy...lol
@@christopherbarger6112 We all have opinions... And your opinion is just that. I've never ever had any problems with my sigs. I've carried and use many types of pistols. They key is...in my opinion...maintaining your firearm arms...if you don't...yes they will have failures.. 24yrs in the army has taught me that.. No firearm is gaurteed unless you do maintenance...bluf
Sigs PVD finishes have a history of complaints. My first experience was on my p226 Legion. Its worn pretty well. I just picked up a M17-Commemorative. Not looking forward to wearing that finish out. :(
I've been carrying a nitrided Ruger for 4 years that has much less finish damage. It would bother the hell out of me if a pistol double the price point of an SR was that worn after a day at the range and the manufacturer's excuse was "it's a military pistol."
I added the X Series grip module in the full length/size. Grip module extends to end of slide/barrel. The m17 mags fit perfect, and I changed the magazine base plates to black as the stock m17 grip module and mag base plates are Coyote Tan and the slide is a bit darker. I didnt want to go with 3 colors, so slide is original and the rest is black. It looks very sharp, and bold. I was looking forward to buying this for awhile but did not like the feel of the stock m17 grip module, at all once I had in hand…Too wide I felt. On the newer versions the optic base plate and rear fixed sights are independent. So with the right optic, you can keep the factory rear fixed sights as backup behind the optic! Awesome update from Sig. The trigger is good but not great. Dont feel it needs an upgrade though. Thats purely personal preference. ALSO, mine did not come with the bulky ambidextrous safety which I did not want anyways and would have removed. Good review, but Sig has done a few things different on the newer models. Prices have come down a bit as supply has started to catch up with demand. I definitely recommend this firearm.
I’m not sure what the difference is in the coatings between my guns but I was cleaning my guns the other day and noticed heavy wear on my G26 gen 5 coating inside the slide where the barrel rubs and my Shield which is the hen one has no wear at all. My M&Ps tend to wear better then my Glocks and Sig’s.
Very interesting! I would think the Gen 5 coating would be crazy good. I’ll be curious to hear more reports down the road to see if it’s getting worse for you. Thank you and cheers Mike!
While you may be concerned about the finish you have to remember this a combat pistol. It's meant to be used and abused. It's a not a shelf queen. If it gets a scratch just shrug and keep on shooting.
@@nextlevelfirearms6585 it's plenty reliable. I'll never believe the "Glock is more reliable" argument when I've replaced 2 service Glocks for malfunctions with the same ammo as my P320 has.
Not my experience & not the apparent experience of a number of others. Glad you're happy with yours I, personally, would never bet my life on it. P320 we tested crapped out after 800 rounds steel case TulAmmo. Haven't had that happen with 226 or 229 nor H&K P30 & VP9, walther P99as or Glock 19 Gen4. Those guns all ate 2000 rounds of steel without issue. Stay safe!
@@nextlevelfirearms6585 co-worker 40,000 rounds through the X5, 2000 rounds through my normal p320. It's a perfectly capable gun and there's been no issues of it "crapping out". Also I never shoot steel cased. It's just all preference. I prefer my Sig over my Glock. I prefer my Legion over both. And I'm probably getting a CZ next.
My M17 has become my favorite pistol. It is easy to rack, fit's my hand perfectly and the trigger is better than any other striker fired gun I have tried. Mine came with three mags and I paid around $555.00 US.
When they first came out, I went to get one and they were in the 950 range, I just bought one the other day surprised they are only 550 now considering I paid the same for a base glock 19 and you get three high cap mags , night sights and sight cut for the same price. Wnere the glock and fn 509 tactical versions are roughly 1k after tax even though the fn doest even pass any of the weather testing a d even failed the first test just submerged in water. where the p320 and glock passed flawlessly
The P320 is my handgun I use. I own many others, but the P320 works best for me for actual duty. Not sure this M17 would actually serve a purpose for me. Looks great though! I started with Glock and was Glock Or nothing for years. I have since gone through M&P, FN, CZ and Berreta. I am sticking with the P320 though. All the other brands I tested I could make work for sure if I had to.
Very thoroughly described. I like the look of the weapon but I don’t like the idea of hot brass getting ejected towards me even if it drops short of my face. That’ll be distracting for inexperienced shooters who might just want one for personal protection.
I know the video is 4 years old by now but I just wanted to say that I recently bought mine for around $650 brand new and it came with 3 mags; one 17-round and two 21-round mags. So far I've been really happy with it.
You are correct in the finish on the new SIGs does wear. My guess is they want you to buy more than one, to just keep one in the safe and never shoot to have a pristine one in the collection.
@@christopherbarger6112 i would disagree. Stock glocks are nothing to be proud off. Take a sig in the field any day over glock or fn. Personal preference & experience.
If you don't already I suggest you buy a Taurus G2 as your 226 mags will work flawlessly in them. Also I'm a simple man if it doesn't have a manual or grip safety then I'm not buying it regardless of who built it. That said out of spite I'd buy a Sig over a Glock as they don't sue like a crybaby for losing and I really despise glock.
“Chain saws, grenade launchers, flame throwers....”. That is the best rail description of the week! Good one!
Thank you! Cheers!
He says it everytime he talks about a rail
From an old retired Army guy...I was first issued a 1911A1. Years later I carried an M9 on two deployments. I also have carried 1911s and 92Fs as a copper. I love both of them. I got an M17 and I think it's the best handgun the Army has come up with so far. As far as the they guy in the video talking about what he likes and doesn't like.... who cares? The Army wants and extra safety because most troops who will carry a pistol in the Army, they will get very little if any training (machine gunners, 1st Sergeants, Officers, REMFs and a few others who will fire 36 rounds to qualify, then the pistol will sit in a holster for the entire deployment (except when going into the mess hall and having to pull it at the clearing barrel).
My wife got the Glock 19x couple months ago and I just bought this on Black Friday sale at the BX on base. Went from $720 to $575 for the gun, 3 mags, cleaning kit, trigger lock, and case... and no tax since on base. Great review... as someone that's been military since '98 I'm ok with a little blemish from days at the range.
Let's admit it... Your wife is the real winner here!
The 19x is, hands down, the better pistol
Just fired my new P320 with Romeo1 red dot for the first time today and it is very accurate from 7 to 100 yards.
That’s awesome! Thank you and cheers!
how long did you wait for your Romeo1? been two months here.
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we tolow mine came with my p320
DONALD cooper disagree?
Unfortunately SigSauer in Germany must close the doors because of the bad politics in Germany. All Guns now are produced in USA. In USA is much better politics for firearms production. Greetings from Germany.
It’s a shame because SIG made a lot of classics over the years
@@SoccerVJ2011 Not sure why it is a shame. I like having production in the US. More jobs and expertise for us.
Philco because now Germany is out of some jobs
@@Blinknone because he's from Germany. Do you understand?
you must like guns!!! come to America!!!
Love my M17, trying to find a small grip module. You're right it was about $650 and it came in a nice plastic case with 1 17 round and 2 21 round mags. I also bought the M18 slide assembly which is the 3.9 barrel. My daily carry is the XDm .40 in a BlackHawk Leather IWB and this Grip module (frame) fits in the holster perfectly. The imprint of the XDm on the leather is exactly the same as the M17. So I can pop out the XDm and drop in the M17 without any problem. Mine came without the "Safety" so I'm happy with that, I do carry with 1 in the chamber and I did try the drop test with a snap cap and could not get it to fire. There is a little lift on the barrel as you fire but easy to control after a mag or two, had virtually no issues shooting the M17 right out of the box. I did wipe off a little of the oil on the barrel and slide assembly but that was all. I shot brass and some steel shells without a problem. I put about 500 rounds thru it on the first time out and the M17 worked without failure. The second time I which to the M18 slide assembly and again it took a couple mags to get it centered and flawless after that.
Just got my M17 today. Looking forward to shooting it. Thanks for the video.
Trying to purchase one today, along with the m18, you need more subs brother!!!
Very good videos, clear and concise information
I appreciate your comments about the black breaking up the tan colour and agree.
I've never had a problem with any of my p320s. My favorite is the p320 x compact. Love how it's shoots and feels in my had. Thanks for what u do.
That’s awesome! I love the X Carry and X Compact. Some of my favorites in the collection. Thank you and cheers Todd!
My favorite sig has Glock written on the grip
@@donaldcooper4330 so do my 2×4s
That’s what I carry daily is the xcompact. Most comfortable 9mm I’ve ever shot.
Excellent review. Covers the gun good and bad in detail. I have owned and collected many guns over the years. We all have our favorites and are lucky to live in a time where most of us will find something we love to own and shoot. Again enjoyed your review. Thanks
Thank you very much! Very well said and we are definitely living in great gun times. Cheers!
Good vid! I just bought an M17, im going to open carry this baby everywhere!
Moving from NY to TN in a few weeks and this is going to be one of my first purchases once I get down there
I moved from New Yorkistan to Georgia, it was like getting out of prison.
I have to say, i grew up sbooting Rugers, S&W's, Glocks, and Taurus. I favored the Ruger P90 .45 ACP until i shot the Glock 21 .45 ACP. I fell in love with glocks and found the Glock 17 and 19 to round off my fanboy top 3. In 2017, i had my first opportunity to shoot my first ever Sig Sauer. It was the Sig Sauer P320 9mm compact. I was used to carrying full size and only shooting a compact at the range. When i first shot the P320, i fell in love with and had to test it again as it felt right for me. At the beginning of tgis year, 2018, i finally purchased a Sig Sauer P320 9mm compact and have never looked back. Its been the perfect match for me and hasnt left my side since. Ive also not had any failures with it.
My favorite gun. You won’t be disappointed. Especially fun to learn how to take trigger assembly apart.
Really liked your review. Good coverage in identifying shortcomings. Based on your review, among all others, I went out and purchased a P320 M17. I can live with the shortcomings, had to have it. Shout out to Centerfire Range in Olathe, KS. Great people.
Thank you very much! Cheers 24!
Im commenting as im watching and my answer is a resounding F'CK YEAH its worth it. I used to hate Sigs until the M17. Mine came with 1 17 and 2 21 round mags 🙂
Absolutely love all my sigs........ just picked up the 17 and is now my all time favorite one to shoot......and I own plenty of nice pistols..... but am having a blast with this one
@@trevorbraden5448 i really want to buy one
I like sig M17
but they said its shoots from it self is that right !!!
I hope you answer me (:
Just bought one for $700 👊 it fits so firmly in hand. Great weight balance as well.
Thank you for the honest review. You got a new sub.
Thank you very much! Cheers!
Excellent review! I own a standard P320 (nitron, no external safety), and fully agree with your experience: weak/cheap polymer, easily dentable/scratchable; weak/cheap slide finish, easily scratchable.
I love the triggers on P320s and Sig Pistols have great ergonomics. I think I'll have to get one of these!
I’ve got the non-safety version, it’s been very good for me, I’m very glad I got one.
Same here got the full size 45 absolutely love it.
I have a Sig p320 carry and I absolutely love it. Shooting it side by side with a 19x and I honestly think mine is just as good or better and I bought a bare bones stock p320
Right on! Thank you and cheers!
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Great video, KS. I agree with you and the others who've already commented about the finish. I love Sig, love my P229, but the last few years have really been tough watching their quality control issues. I want them to succeed and thrive yet they seem, forgive the pun, to keep shooting themselves in the foot.
Thank you Aaron! Yeah, the finish is disappointing indeed. I’m not sure why they aren’t pulling things together more but maybe they are concentrating on the military stuff. Hopefully they will get back on track. Cheers!
Excellent review for the p320 M17. Keep up the good job
Great video man!
Thank you very much Honest! Cheers brother!
@@KSGunGuy01 How is the PVD finish holding up? thank you
Quick correction for reference. The m17 is not cut for a Romeo 1. Per MHS requirement it was too be cut for a Leopold Deltapoint Pro. Supposedly Sig is going to release a new Romeo that fits on a DeltaPoint footprint sometime this summer, but it has yet to be released.
MuffDiverACTUAL has it been released yet?? Just got my m17 yesterday
I just purchased a P320 M17 and will receive it in a week. I’m a retired USAF Cop so I carried the S&W Model 15 (stupid gun for law enforcement) and the Beretta M-9, so I’m very excited to try this out. I’ve been carrying a Springfield XDs .45, but I’m getting older and thought I’d go back to a 9mm. This was a great video, and it helped to assure me that I’ve made a good choice.
Congrats on the M17! I think you will enjoy it. Thank you and cheers!
thanks for your honest opinion on this gun. greatly appreciate the video.
KSGunGuy A good topic for the Live Stream might be the evolution of handguns and phases gun owners go thru as we get older. Revolvers,1911's, DA/SA, and Strikerfired. Having gone through the evolution and age factor I notice several different types of firearm enthusiast. There are practical, tactical, shooter's, collectors and many other phases we go thru. Different mentalities on carry from CCW, Combat, Home Defense and SHTF . All experts of course! LOL. Just thought it would be interesting conversation. Thanks!
C, that’s awesome! I love the ideas and we will definitely cover this. Thank you very much for the suggestion brother. Cheers!
I love this weapon but who am I kidding. I love weapons of all sorts and sizes. They all have their shortcomings as well as merits
I have had my Gen 2 p320 since 2015 no issues ,excellent side arm..
Thanks for the video. The first shipment of M17s came to the 101st ABN with tan controls. The rest that come from Sig will look like this, FDE with black controls.
My pleasure! Thank you and cheers!
Hey there KS I own 2 p320s the x-carry and the after recall compact. All in all I like the ease to clean and the modular capability of the firearms. My thoughts on this version well meh I own 2 as I said before. Personally I like the x-carry grip module and trigger. As always informative and non bias keep it up brother.
I think you’ve got the right models Vorka! I agree about the X series module. Very comfortable. Thank you and cheers brother!
I do not carry a side arm for looks. This weapon system is one of the best on the market. As a modular system firearm it is one of the best.
Hell yes. Love the p320 line.my xcompact is still going strong after 3000+ rounds
I agree on the finish. But aside of that very accurate, nice trigger also. Cheers from northern indiana
I’m Here & Watching! Carry on
Thank you big J! Cheers brother!
Not trying to be nasty: but Sig's video says rear sight plate is NOT cut for Sig RX, as other 320's are: but are cut for the official contract Leupold Delta Point, a definite improvement IMHO! While I'm a lover of Sig guns, as both a former dealer for 15 years and a consumer, their accessory products have been junk! Strong statement: but I stand by it! Very recently learned Sig optics are manufactured in China and shipped as parts to US and assembled here!
Now you know why Romeo's, etc are so much cheaper than Trij RMR, Leu Delta Point, etc.! Personally, I think it is outrageous to force use of Sig Romeo's in all RX guns, except M17 contract guns which MUST have plate for Delta Point which would be only way I'd buy any Sig RX. Note Sig's site says different plate coming for Romeo on M17; but then it won't really be a M17 will it?
I could care less about the finish. I just want a gun that is accurate, reliable, and will feed any round you can feed it. This gun feels great in my hands, the trigger is very light which I like. The trigger on my Taurus G3 is heavier which I believe can lead to being more likely to pull shots more. I will be purchasing this next week when I get paid and take it to the range soon. Great review!
A very well made pistol very very accurate and very easy to get to the firing pin for cleaning and i love mine
Another great review KS. Mine comes in on Tuesday. I'll keep my eye on that slide finish.
Thank you Kerry! Congrats on the purchase. Keep me posted! Cheers!
Great review. Can't wait to shoot the M17 to see how it feels
Thank you! So far, it’s been a pretty fun shooter and when the ejection issues clear up, it will be awesome. Thank you and cheers!
I would be contradicting myself if I said yes. I’ll stick by my non poly Sig stance for now. Great start to the video none the less. Watching on to the end.
Not sure why the made the RMR design rear sight exclusive like the TP9SFx. The finish really doesn’t look durable. Safe queen? I think I would take the FN 509 Tac at about $200 Plus extra dollars over this but I’m sure it will sell well.
Again, excellent review KS.
Thank you InSight! I too would go with the FN, without question. Cheers brother!
I agree about staying with the Sig Classic line pistols.
I have the 509 Tactical and the M17. I like 509 better, not to say the Sig is bad or anything. It definitely is what you would expect from a military issued sidearm.
Too much debate over this pistol...let it go ... it’s the Army’s now gun...
Fn509 tactical 9mm $650.000
Great detailed vid. I subscribed.
Yes. I haven't watched the video yet though. Had mine almost a year and I love it!
I can only speak for myself, but I have had good experiences with the SIG P320. I shoot them as accurately as any handgun I have owned, and they have been reliable. Their ergonomics and trigger feel suit me very well. There has been rampant "SIG Hatred" on the internet ever since the P320 was awarded the US Army contract last year. Again, I can only speak for myself, but I have had good success with these handguns. Apparently many handgun purchasers agree, as the P320 has been a strong seller despite the hate and controversies of the previous year.
I agree that the 320 has gotten a bad wrap (as has the 365). I think no matter who won the contract, there would be strong feelings of animosity from the haters. Thank you and cheers!
@@KSGunGuy01 If you look back at ANY firearm adopted by the US military, you will find controversy, and major changes that had to be made during service. The M1903 Springfield, the 1911, the M1 Garand, the M16...all are revered today, but all had their issues during initial service. As for the SIG P365, that pistol did have some early issues due to SIG trying to rush it to market. I have a more recent P365 that is up to 800 failure free rounds. I love it and carry it every day. It really is an awesome carry pistol. Like with any gun I plan to carry, I always test them to MY satisfaction and I recommend the same to others.
Excellent points for sure! I especially agree about testing to one’s satisfaction rather than relying on the internet to make their choices for them.
Is a good weapon, in fact one of the world's top handguns
Great video as always KS! I’ve had nothing but good experiences with my P320 Carry, despite having to send it in to Sig for 2 week’s, and I’d happily recommend it to anyone looking for a solid, dependable carry gun. The only reason I had to send it in is because I bought it when they first came out, but according to Sig (I live in NH so I walked in and talked to someone) the newer made models of the P320 already have the recall done on them. I’m actually considering getting a .357 Sig Compact version in addition to the 9mm I’m already enjoying. The Nitron finish on the Carry is actually pretty resistant to damage, so it’s a shame the finish in the M17 is so subpar! Thanks again for a thorough and enjoyable video 👍🏽
Thank you Kratos! That’s awesome that the Carry is working for you and I agree about the Nitron finish. I wish they had done something similar with this one. A 357 Sig would be sweet! Cheers as always brother!
Well hopefully Sig learns from the mistakes they made on the P320 & and the P365, or I think they’re going to lose quite a few customers! I haven’t had the chance to watch all of your older videos yet, but have you had any .40 or .357 Sig in the KS gun vault??
I typically stick to 9mm for cost and convenience to be honest. I may try a .357 Sig at some point.
Ohhhh I totally understand that. The price of ammo has gone up a lot over the past couple of years! I enjoy shooting .357 Sig more than .40, and if you need a reason to justify buying it, just remember that .357 Sig is still a 9mm.......just on steroids!! 😁 Have a great weekend!
Kratos SonOfZeus “nothing but good experiences”
......you had to send it in for MAJOR flaws.
How fucking stupid can you be?
Nice review as always. I looked at an M17 today at my LGS. I liked it but not blown away. Still considering it but may very well end up with a Steyr L9 instead... cheers!
Thank you MD! There’s always room for another Steyr brother. Cheers back at ya!
Beautiful handgun, and many good features. I own many different makes, and they're all good. Train, train, train!
Thank you and well said about trining! Thank you and cheers!
Great review! I passed on this gun the trigger clunk I just cant get passed when before fix they were crisp.
I do agree. I preferred the pre recall triggers. This one’s not too bad though. Thank you and cheers Youngguns!
You can always put in after market
Still disappointed hi point didn’t win...
You and me both
The new hipoint really has a shot at it.
LMAO
Cheap guys hot point .lol😁😁
I'm so glad high point didn't win I think sig is a better name and more popular high points on on the other hand are big, and ugly
Great review indeed! Very knowledgeable, great ideas thrown around, including your ‘rail description’ ~ lol ~ I am a two-Glock owner, G37 and G21 and also have a S&W M&P 9mm ~ so it will be a welcome addition ~ the differences between them should be eye-opening! “And by the way”, they ask me, “Why did you get a GAP?!?” ~ Exacyly for that readon being that it was not very popular and a change from the 45 ACP round, the Glock auto Pistol 45 round is smaller and has more velocity ~ and the G37 has a much ‘sweeter’ recoil than the G21 ~ WILL LET YOU KNOW WHEN I GET THE SIG!!
Mine came with 4 magazines, 3 - 17rd 1 - 21rd. The ejection patern on my 17 is consistently out the side & NOT towards me. I love my M17 Thx for sharing the video.
Great video. The P320 compact is my go to edc in double stack. Thousand plus rds . . . Been flawless. Imo . . the best polymer double stack pistol ever. I will be investing in a x-carry soon with the Romeo red dot.
Thank you Stephan! The compact is a great gun and I’d like to see this in a compact build as well. Thank you and cheers!
Romeo 1 is trash. Many many problems with them.
Its my understanding that the slides of the M17 (civie versions included) are machined to accept the Delta Point Pro, not the Romeo 1. So its fine that the rear sight is removed along with the plate because the Delta Point has a rear sight attached to it.
You are correct. Thank you and cheers!
Sold my 226 a long time ago. I could not get used to the revolver like long trigger reset after shooting mostly 1911's. I now have the M17 and I will be keeping it as my house gun. I have the 21 round mag and a Streamlight TLR-1 HL light mounted on the rail.
New to your channel... Excellent presentation.
Great tech talk and w/ some good laughs.
My 461 chainsaw fits my M-17 rail perfectly :-))
The flamethrower, well, not so much.
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About the iron sight being able to co witness with a rmr. The army chose the DeltaPoint pro for the m17 pistol mounted red dot contract. So the DeltaPoint pro actually has a co-witness sight that attaches to the rear of the sight. It is sold separately for civilian sales.
I like having the safety's on a firearm never had issues with them ...nice looking gun
Although I don’t use them (unless it’s a 1911), they don’t bother me either. Thank you and cheers Taz!
I hear yah to me it just adds to having more useful options... and if one does not care for it ...well then don't use it ... have a good day take care
If it’s useable than it is dumb to not use safety, always use it on all my guns. Accidentally trying to fire is way better than accidentally firing.
The ejection straight back at you ... that probably won the contract for Sig!
Military pistol ranges have a 1 to 1 brass reclaim...shoot 40 rounds, return 40 empty casings. The M9 threw brass all over the damn place and looking brass in tall grass sucks.
I bet the testers appreciated the nice little pile of brass at their feet!
They want to make life as difficult as possible for a soldier so this was probably a negative for them
Hi, just pick my Sig P320f M17 today. After inspecting it and wiping it down to take off the packing lube I did lot of administrative manipulations.
It feels real good in the hand, the trigger is the best of the striker fired handgun manufacturers. The only thing that comes close to the feel in the hand is the Sig P226, P227, and the Beretta M9A3(M9A3 is a hammer fired handgun). I have owned this firearms for less than 24 hours and have not had a chance to take it to the range. But so far I like what I see and how it feels.
I too am annal about the aesthetic as well as the durability of the exterior and interior finishes. If it's a combat and or law enforcement firearm you'd think the finishes would and should be very robust on all metal and non-metal surfaces not just for aesthetics but to protect the metal and non-metal surfaces to increase the life of the firearm.
Currently my EDC for the last 25 years has been a custom handmade 1911 in .45 ACP by The Robar Companies. With the increase in 9mm cartridge and projectile technology lethality I'm concidering changing my EDC to one of the following Sig P320f M17, Glock 19X, or Beretta M9A3. Having increased firepower and weight reduction over a high capacity. 45 ACP 1911 and the current 9mm cartridge and bullet technology now has lethality as the .45 ACP of just a few years ago, i.e. Winchester SXT or Federal Hydroshock technology it makes sense to revisit what my EDC will be. Any input you have will be appreciated.
Thanks for your presentation.
Ricky from IBM, Ret. k4vms@comcast.net
P320, or glock all day. Berreta, nah, too many problems and they weren’t that reliable
Recently got the M17. Won't be my everyday carry gun, for that I have a Browning Hi-Power I brought in1974. Has been rebuilt and as gun people know is one great gun! My usual carry is the Xds .45. Nice size carry gun but have to adjust to not double tap as trained for soo many years. Got about 300 rds thru the M17. Some adjustment to the hi axis but no real problem. Like the trigger pull. After practice drawing now used to safety, grip thumb takes it down and stays there. Feels real natural. This will be my SHTF gun in a drop down tactical.
Shout out to Beretta! I love my Beretta 92FS Inox beautiful, durable & reliable
Nice video I have a p 320 RX I’ve shot it over 3000 rounds through it is what I should of said never had a failed ejection or any mishap knock on wood, I love the red dot
Right on! Thank you and cheers!
Kenneth Erkson I’ve been thinking about getting the 320rx compact. Is the finish on it the same as the M17?
My brother in law has the 226 FDE with the Romeo 1 and I was hoping he’d want to sell it. He said NO! I did get his BCM AR-15 with a aimpoint compM4! though!
Fred Wilhite I have the Cabela’s p 320 RX I just looked at it not a scratch on it, I have 5 sigs none of them are scratched more than normal wear I have a p220 I bought 25 years ago it’s just normal wear.
Kenneth Erkson The only Sig I own right now is a M400 Ar-15. I plan on owning several more; the 320rx is on the top of the list. Is yours black? I’d like to find a FDE model; but I never saw one. Thought I’d have to buy the M17 and put the romeo1 on it. I guess I could get the fde frame and run a black slide. The function is more important! As long as it can get the job done just about any color would work! As long as it’s black,fde, camo, olive drab, or maybe grey!
It’s chrome upper dark black lower trying to send picture my comp not letting me.
Good review. I can’t comment on the M17 variant as I’ve never shot one. But I have shot the P320 and it didn’t feel right to me. Up until last Spring, I was an M&P guy and a Sig 226 and various revolvers. I decided that I need to get serious about my shooting skills and pick one gun to train exclusively with. So I rented a bunch of 9mm striker fired guns at my local range over a few weeks. While I was not a fan of Glocks, I found that the new G19 Gen 5 was perfect for me. I bought a new Gen 5 with factory night sights and started training, dry fire and live fire exclusively. I am happy with my choice. I’m not suggesting that Glock is better than Sig, my 226 was a great gun. I think we owe you a debt of gratitude for your reviews as they provide details to consider as we look for the right gun for us. Thanks.
Thank you very much! I agree, the gen 5 Glocks are great guns. I love my 19. I have heard others talk about the 320 not feeling right in the hand. An interesting finding for sure. Cheers Stephen!
Bought one today. $650 before tax. Two 21 round mags and a 17 round. Couldn't be happier.
Nice Review KS, This Pistol is just not for me. That sucks about the finish, TFS Carry On
Thanks brother! Agreed on the finish.
I feel like we should all get familiar with this pistol just in case. Lots of people keep an m9 around for the same reason
A good point indeed! Thank you and cheers!
yeah, I'm really thinking of buying one.
Just in case what?
@@jmackultra lol
I picked mine up at a gun show for $620, and it did not have the coyote color on the slide it was black anodized.....and I love it....
good review, X-vtac favorite p320 though with flat trigger and great sights
The VTAC is awesome indeed Brian! I love that finish and wish they did the same with this. Thank you and cheers!
I just learned that Tx state troopers are issued the 320 as the standard sidearm
No they are still with the Glock 22
Sig 320s are awesome pistols.
I have 320fs fde and 320c as well as the fde. Also the x carry and the x five..
No issues with them at all.
Yes I'm sig fan boy...lol
No shame in being a fan! Thank you and cheers!
Daniel Butler traaaaaaash.
I own three 320's. No problems with any of them. Love them all.
@@christopherbarger6112
We all have opinions...
And your opinion is just that.
I've never ever had any problems with my sigs.
I've carried and use many types of pistols. They key is...in my opinion...maintaining your firearm arms...if you don't...yes they will have failures..
24yrs in the army has taught me that..
No firearm is gaurteed unless you do maintenance...bluf
got min in .357 Sig....yeah, I'm a fan boy too
I just bought one and I absolutely love it. Best gun I have ever owned in my life!!!
I have one and not one problem,and very accurate.
Sigs PVD finishes have a history of complaints. My first experience was on my p226 Legion. Its worn pretty well. I just picked up a M17-Commemorative. Not looking forward to wearing that finish out. :(
Hopefully yours will be better out of the box! That’s the key, I think. Good luck and happy shooting. Thank you and cheers!
**scratched finish and frame on day 1**
That new SIG quality.
A bummer for sure. Thank you and cheers!
Between the bad PVC coating and the drop safe issue I have a different view of Sig now.
I've been carrying a nitrided Ruger for 4 years that has much less finish damage. It would bother the hell out of me if a pistol double the price point of an SR was that worn after a day at the range and the manufacturer's excuse was "it's a military pistol."
Kyle Rainer The M17 doesn’t have the drop issue. Sig rectified that issue by redesigning the trigger group to fit the manual safety.
The M17 NEVER had a drop issue. Only the civilian P320s had that problem. Sig stated this from the beginning of the whole fiasco.
Thanks for taking my advice haha. Great video.
Haha!! Always brother. Cheers!
I added the X Series grip module in the full length/size. Grip module extends to end of slide/barrel. The m17 mags fit perfect, and I changed the magazine base plates to black as the stock m17 grip module and mag base plates are Coyote Tan and the slide is a bit darker. I didnt want to go with 3 colors, so slide is original and the rest is black.
It looks very sharp, and bold. I was looking forward to buying this for awhile but did not like the feel of the stock m17 grip module, at all once I had in hand…Too wide I felt.
On the newer versions the optic base plate and rear fixed sights are independent. So with the right optic, you can keep the factory rear fixed sights as backup behind the optic! Awesome update from Sig. The trigger is good but not great. Dont feel it needs an upgrade though. Thats purely personal preference. ALSO, mine did not come with the bulky ambidextrous safety which I did not want anyways and would have removed.
Good review, but Sig has done a few things different on the newer models. Prices have come down a bit as supply has started to catch up with demand. I definitely recommend this firearm.
I’m not sure what the difference is in the coatings between my guns but I was cleaning my guns the other day and noticed heavy wear on my G26 gen 5 coating inside the slide where the barrel rubs and my Shield which is the hen one has no wear at all. My M&Ps tend to wear better then my Glocks and Sig’s.
Very interesting! I would think the Gen 5 coating would be crazy good. I’ll be curious to hear more reports down the road to see if it’s getting worse for you. Thank you and cheers Mike!
The M&P finish is outstanding!!!
I bought my 320 early on , and I never looked back
Right on! Thank you and cheers!
me too
Every day I look at the M17 it starts to look more and more like a civilized Desert Eagle🏁
The M17 slide was made to work with the Delta Point Pro which has an option for an integrated rear iron sight.
While you may be concerned about the finish you have to remember this a combat pistol. It's meant to be used and abused. It's a not a shelf queen. If it gets a scratch just shrug and keep on shooting.
Understood but out of the box, it shouldn’t be missing swatches of coating in my opinion. Thank you and cheers!
Just get the normal P320 for $435 or $495 with night sights. Better than Glock in sights, trigger, and ergonomics.
Too bad it's not better in reliability. Glock should have won & if you read the results glock actually did win
@@nextlevelfirearms6585 it's plenty reliable. I'll never believe the "Glock is more reliable" argument when I've replaced 2 service Glocks for malfunctions with the same ammo as my P320 has.
Not my experience & not the apparent experience of a number of others. Glad you're happy with yours I, personally, would never bet my life on it. P320 we tested crapped out after 800 rounds steel case TulAmmo. Haven't had that happen with 226 or 229 nor H&K P30 & VP9, walther P99as or Glock 19 Gen4. Those guns all ate 2000 rounds of steel without issue. Stay safe!
@@nextlevelfirearms6585 co-worker 40,000 rounds through the X5, 2000 rounds through my normal p320. It's a perfectly capable gun and there's been no issues of it "crapping out". Also I never shoot steel cased. It's just all preference. I prefer my Sig over my Glock. I prefer my Legion over both. And I'm probably getting a CZ next.
Okie dokie!
Looks great👍
My M17 has become my favorite pistol. It is easy to rack, fit's my hand perfectly and the trigger is better than any other striker fired gun I have tried. Mine came with three mags and I paid around $555.00 US.
When they first came out, I went to get one and they were in the 950 range, I just bought one the other day surprised they are only 550 now considering I paid the same for a base glock 19 and you get three high cap mags , night sights and sight cut for the same price. Wnere the glock and fn 509 tactical versions are roughly 1k after tax even though the fn doest even pass any of the weather testing a d even failed the first test just submerged in water. where the p320 and glock passed flawlessly
I brought my Sig P320 Rx compact with the Romeo 1 red dot for $762.00 & $807.00 after taxes in Maryland.
That’s a great price! Thank you and cheers!
The P320 is my handgun I use. I own many others, but the P320 works best for me for actual duty. Not sure this M17 would actually serve a purpose for me. Looks great though!
I started with Glock and was Glock Or nothing for years. I have since gone through M&P, FN, CZ and Berreta. I am sticking with the P320 though. All the other brands I tested I could make work for sure if I had to.
It's indeed a great option. Thank you and cheers!
I have a berretta apx as well as the 320
Very thoroughly described. I like the look of the weapon but I don’t like the idea of hot brass getting ejected towards me even if it drops short of my face. That’ll be distracting for inexperienced shooters who might just want one for personal protection.
Everyone has their preference but for me, I love the M17
I’ll just keep my p226 thanks
No shame in that, the 226 is a great gun! Thank you and cheers!
I agree with you Steve I don't like the idea of buying a plastic composite frame, I'll stick with my metal frame guns
I’ve got a 220 that still works fine
Love my old West German P226.
Chainsaws lasers grenadine launchers 😂
You can never have too many! Thank you and cheers!
Nice review as always
Thank you Bald! Cheers!
I know the video is 4 years old by now but I just wanted to say that I recently bought mine for around $650 brand new and it came with 3 mags; one 17-round and two 21-round mags.
So far I've been really happy with it.
Do you recommend it as a first gun?
Depending on the role, yes. Thank you and cheers!
Nelson Gómez It’s a little big for concealed carry, but I would totally recommend it!
great video
as far as glocks go they are over rated and not that great and yes i had g17 got rid of it and never will get another
Thank you very much! I completely understand. Cheers!
Not to smart on your part lol
Absolutely worth it! Bout time too
Right on! Thank you and cheers!
You are correct in the finish on the new SIGs does wear. My guess is they want you to buy more than one, to just keep one in the safe and never shoot to have a pristine one in the collection.
Companies needa stop using pvd. One would think sig learnded from the legion line. I think cerakote would hold up better.
Completely agree with you. It’s the one bummer about this. Thank you and cheers!
Dickie D yeah my buddy's 229 Legion has finish wear issues only after a short amount of time. And it's a 1100-1200 dollar gun!
Kyle Rainer yup
Pretty sure since the 509 tac/ m17/19x all have it it was something the army asked for...
That Legion finish was/is crap. I saw it first hand and also on several other pistols Ive handled, and those were new in box.
Im not a glock person. Trigger sight & grip just suck. I like my 226 & i will probably get one of these. I do like the 509.
Nothing wrong with that at all! Thank you and cheers!
Matthew Fransen 509, M9, 19X are all better choices than Sig.
@@christopherbarger6112 i would disagree. Stock glocks are nothing to be proud off. Take a sig in the field any day over glock or fn. Personal preference & experience.
If you don't already I suggest you buy a Taurus G2 as your 226 mags will work flawlessly in them. Also I'm a simple man if it doesn't have a manual or grip safety then I'm not buying it regardless of who built it. That said out of spite I'd buy a Sig over a Glock as they don't sue like a crybaby for losing and I really despise glock.
I love my 226 and my FNS-9
Nice video. I was just at centerfire today!
It’s accurate as the dickens... also picked up a p365 XL.... love Sig Sauer.