Here's a fun game: Look at Greg Land's artwork and speculate on what wacky erotic scenarios are being depicted in the source material. Your imagination is the limit!
You know what else is terrible from using tracing? Inconsistent shading and perspective. Basically, it means that each characters doesn't have the same light source (made even worse if flipped or rotated) and that they never really appear to be drawn in the same ground at the same angle, resulting in messy artwork where the characters basically looks like a collage from magazines and no solid notion of space.
Hey can we all bump up this very good post? This is a very strong reason why that shitstain boy Land really won't be able to get away with traced thievery forever. I'm also pretty sure the buildup of his cheater antics alone will finally do him in, if not one last catalystic source that he chooses and can't bullshit a way out of. Just wait, and then relish in the schadenfreude. Comic industry success can't be faked, no matter what! B)
His panels do look like those collages from random magazine pictures we used to glue together in school. Nothing fits together and the characters don't "interact" with each other at all. It just looks odd because the human brain can't process visuals that cannot occur naturally into something that "flows". It's impossible to have five different light sources in one group shot that only affect one person in the shot respectively. Light doesn't work that way! And yeah... that image of the female character in the fight scene Linkara points out? That's traced from a picture of a porn star getting banged from behind while she's standing on her right leg and her partner is holding up her left leg. Greg Land, everybody! Why trace in-action pictures of female MMA fighters or wrestlers for your fight scenes when you can use porn instead. He should be called "One Hand" Land from now on.
I’m not a fan on hating tracers and baser’s (in fact I think there’s a lot of reasons that you should not treat them like thefts when real thefts just Steal Art. When tracers at least just credit the art they traced for there art. There’s two videos that show us the truth in this way but I’ll save it for later.) but mr. “I’m a dumbass who ‘accidentally’ became a Pedo (in comics?!)” Might also likes to use the pics of eat sandwiches that are big more than once in one page considering this man also got a bit too lazy with his work to even stop that from happening, knowing that he can also make a bad job not making evil p*rn. This is not a good sign for the world of men who love tracers and basers, and maybe it’s time to just fix this before it even hits anyone else.
I've read the first 3 volumes of the series. the film did go with the parallel world thing like in the book, but that's all that it borrowed, minus young cast
I would disagree, I recently read ultimate X-Men and the ultimates and they were bad, but ultimate Spider-Man and Fantastic 4 actually start off really solid
Most likely, yes. Even if they are villains, they still possess the same rights as anyone else. However, they probably couldn't do anything about since, being villains, they have probably committed an untold number of crimes. That means coming out of hiding to start a civil trial would likely wind up in them being arrested and tried in criminal court too. So that basically makes the toy line a big F you to the villains.
Frselrey Garcia Meanwhile in a alternate dimension while Dr. Doom is wrestling with zombie She Hulk Victor: Doom sense's his likness Being discraced. RICHARD! Jenn:......Flesh!
Another probelm with Land's characters all being in *dramatic poses* due to being traced - it seems like there are almost no full-body shots of the characters just standing or walking on the ground. It makes for weird framing and overly busy panels, and I'm sure it's because if you extended the drawings off-panel you'd see that they'd have to be all standing on different elevations.
Referencing: visual aid for me as an artist, so I may get my bearings while drawing a character in a certain way. Tracing: copying from someone else's work. Tracing can assist an artist by basically helping them gain muscle memory about this specific pose, artwork or such. The problem with this is very simple: it is a study. While certain concept artists will show their work in concept books, studies aren't usually meant to be shown, unless they're really good. And even then they were most likely edited to look more orderly. Heaven knows I did that for my finals
Linkara: "I actually like Ultimate Reed more than 616 Reed" Ultimate Universe: Reed is actually an asshole, turns evil, dissects Iron Man's brain while he's alive, and causes the Ultimate Universe to die.
@@ambroseburnside1950 Frank Miller's artwork reminds of an amateur Gennedy Tartakovsky or a Craig McCracken with all the sharp designs of the characters.
The fact that Storm has facial proportions clearly taken from a white woman is throwing me off. You don't need big lips and fat noses... but jesus, the races look different you know!
Um, nope, I don't think so. Kitty's names in main universe have been Ariel, Sprite and Shadowcat. Ultimate Kitty used Shroud (mentioned here) and maybe Shadowcat & Cat. I know there was at least one alternate Kitty who went by Cat but main Kitty has never used Cat or Shroud
These horrible Comics make me grateful that the much better version of the Ultimates the MCU Exist. At least that one understands it main characters and Cap isn't a Racist a-hole lol.
I was attempting a Chasing Amy reference (where Jason Lee's character, who is an inker, completely loses his shit when a fan at a comic con trolls Lee by calling him a tracer *to his face!!!*). I bear no malice towards inkers for any piece of artwork that they help an artist complete. Or are you saying that not even Mr Land deserves to be doing any inking for comics, either?
You know, I have to wonder if Reed just wanted to cheat and simply ask an alternate universe Reed if they knew a cure. I mean, what's stopping people from going into other universes and just asking about things they may know that we don't.
Okay, I'm going to say something nice about the art: Due to Greg Land's terrible habit of tracing.... most (if not all) the women actually have "decent" tops. That is there is very little of the 'Boob Sock' effect in this that I've seen. ... that's it. That's the only good I can say, and it's only a side effect of the shitty thing an artist did. It's not even intentional.
Greg's traced real-life porn stars look less exaggeratedly "porny" than the female characters that some other comic book artists _actually draw_ . If that doesn't say something about the industry and its culture...
Ironic considering how Kate Mara and Jamie Bell started dating after playing Susan Storm and Ben Grimm in the 2015 FF film, got married and had a daughter together.
hmm, nice to know a lot of (us) comic artists aren't allowed work in claim of how competitive the industry is and yet this guy gets the jobs. Can never wrong an artist for their work, but this guy is barely putting in any effort. I'm also noticing how he will mash poses and photos together to try to make a whole different pose, and some where the bodies are just drawn from his head- almost like a Liefeld drawing
Yeah, it baffles me to no end and makes me sad to think that there are probably hundreds if not thousands of great artists out there who would deserve to get more work from the comic companies and yet guys like Land (and Liefeld) get hired despite their poor work ethics and laziness. I'm starting to think that Land must have some dirt on some editors to get so much work on so many big flagship books (Iron Man & multiple X-Men books). Seriously it is the only explanation I can think of that makes any sense since there is no way someone can look at Land's porn tracings and consider them great or even acceptable. They just look so atrocious most of the times and often take you out of the story because they are so out of place. Personally, I am so tired and angry at Land getting work on major books nowadays that I refuse to support any book he draws for. No matter how good the writer is or how well written the story is I just can't bring myself to buy any comic that has Land on art duties because his art is so fugly.
@@smashmaster521 Greg Land didn't do Marvel Zombies. Citation: Marvel Zombies- Wikipedia Note: I would give you the link but something screwy is going on with my copy link button on my mobile devices.
Worst Boyfriend too. Like who proposes at your girlfriends fathers funeral? He was asking to get dumped that day ... followed by becoming a super villain.
The only reasoning I can see behind Reed wanting to send out so many probes into parallel universes is *possibly* in the hopes of finding a universe in which the accident occurred but they had the technology or medical know-how in order to reverse it. I don't know anything about the Ultimate universe, nor have I read any Fan. 4 comics ever in either universe soooo there's always a chance I'm wrong and/or they tried this already.
“Seriously, why are you even doing superhero comics if you’re not going to embrace the insanity of them?” Wait until you read the Ultimates issue where (SPOILERS) evil Ultimate Reed Richards is defeated by Ultimate Tony Stark’s talking brain tumour.
I made my own comment about the ultimate fantastic four comic, when they fought Namor, he jumped out of the ocean doing the same wide arm things as hyperion. I said, " He saw a fish 'this' big"
At least Frank Miller does his own art. It wouldn't be so bad if he was taking these images he was tracing from, but no, he just takes any random porno mag and calls it a day.
Why would anyone have asked Stan to autograph ....THIS? If I had the choice between signing this and a used napkin..I would have had a usen Stan Le napkin lol
Why would Johnny object that his action figure has too many points of articulation?? Wouldn't that guarantee that the toys would sell an be a big hit?? I mean I collect action figures so ya get where I'm coming from right???
Speaking of Galactus and the Ultimate universe, there was actually an event in the Ultimate universe called "Cataclysm" wherein Galactus - the main universe Galactus - crossed over into the Ultimate universe and attacked the Earth, forcing the heroes of the Ultimate universe to band together and attempt to fend him off.
Wait- how many parallel reeds would be sending out the exact same number of probes to the exact same spot? Sounds like a massive dimensional clustrfck.
I did the mathematics, apparently each probe costs five thousand, two hundred thirty-eight and nine thousand, five hundred twenty-four hundred-thousandths dollars each
I recently read the original Nightwing mini-series which was penciled by Greg Land, it appears it was before he traced but its so hard to get through because it's very lifield inspired. I'm curious what you mean when you said he did good artwork once.
He actually killed Susan and Johnny Storm's mother who was acting as a decoy on Doctor Doom's behalf.... In case you were wondering, this was revealed in a lazily done retcon done after Ultimatum.
@@eamonndeane587 And even more lazily they never explain how Doom survived Zombie world when everyone else fell so easily....or how he got out when the Watcher had locked the zombie worlds together to contain them
From what I understand, the original Stracynzski stories were pretty good, and they had an interesting angle: kind of a "Reverse-Watchmen." It started with the characters being complete jerks, and then softened them, having them grow and become better people. Then, this comic came out and erased all that hard work and good will. Nice going.
I think you should give Secret Wars (2015) a shot, because it was a really good event a great finale to Jhonathan Jickman's Fantastic Four/Avengers Run, but in order to read it there's quite a lot of backstory to read (Mostly jus Avengers and New Avengers) so because of that you might never do it, anyway good video like always, even in 2017
...the back of the trade he's holding says "A treat of strong writing and excellent artwork" and after just getting a glimpse of the ridiculous snake women I'd like to know how much whoever supplied that quote was paid for it.
While tracing is bad...sometimes, i personally think that there are at least three things that can excuse tracing: 1. The comic/art is free. It doesn't matter if it's traced or if it's terrible, it's free. 2. It's only for the cover. Because it is a common practice to trace famous covers. (Example: crisis on infinite earths's "superman hold the dead body of supergirl" and amazing fantasy no. 15.) 3. It's a movie adaption. The whole point is to make the comic just like the movie. So it would make sense to trace the scenes from the movie for the adaption. Grag land......doesn't do any of these three things!
Hey, Linkara. You mentioned reading Miss Marvel for fun. Ever pick up Hawkeye. From what I can tell it was (mostly) a well-written series. Especially issues 11 and 19; I think they might be worth an Atop the Fourth Wall Episode because they try to experiment with new methods of story telling.
+sephiroth Cross does that apply to his cross overs as well? I get not reading any of his main series as it's just not the character he wants but not reading the crossovers feels a bit petty.
Reallyrandomcircle Honestly from what I've read so far, that plot point seems to end as quickly as it randomly came in, so... I'm kinda willing to forget it even happened and enjoy the rest of the series?
She did because t that time Mutants were pariah after Magneto nearly wiped out world and killed off millions of New Yorkers. So she put on a full costume (looking more like the Crimson Cowl) to disguise herself
Wait, you would think if Land is just tracing pictures of real people they would at least be standing and posing in realistic poses that can really be done with the human body.
@@alexandredesbiens-brassard9109 The greatest Spider-Man villains are likely the snarling wolves of Sony (depending on their mood) and Joe Quesada (obviously).
Tracing over photos is fine in moderation, when you're learning to draw and you need help building muscle memory when working or figuring out how to break things down into basic shapes, but dear god dont trace over another person's art or trace over photos or videos for paid work!
I have one question why dont toylines have a falmed off johnny both in the real world and in the comic. Two reasons thats how he appears most of the time and all they would have to do is put a new head on a reed richards body.
I sometimes wonder what it was that prompted both Sony and Fox to decide to use the ultimate universe for their reboots. Not that Ultimate Spiderman and FF are bad. Just find it weird/curious that they both decided to use the same alternate universe for their reboots.
Wait a second... Lands could keep his art even MORE consistent with tracing! All he has to do is choose a specific person to trace for each character! Because, in real life, people actually LOOK CONSISTENT, then his art should, as well! If the problem is he can't find a picture of, say, Matt Smith (just a random example) with a smiling face standing in a certain spot at a certain angle, then all he has to do is create a composite from multiple images where the specific PARTS are angled correctly! How hard is that?! I'm only taking Linkara's word for it, since I do a actually have some comic issues with Lands as the artist and I always thought everything looked fine.
The sources being commonly pornographic? No worse than stealing from elsewhere at first glance... then you realize you're reading his personal "spank bank"
The real problem in my view is that he's using them in contexts where it looks silly. Sue Storm with a porn look in a context in which she should be scared looks dumb. There's really no way to make it look ok.
the new Secret Wars sucked, too many titles and you have no idea what's going if you only read the main title. Renew Your Vows was the best Webhead story I've read in a long time. by the way Lew, can you review Spider-man Dead No More after the whole story is out? comes out in the Fall. they're bringing back multiple people. also, check out the Spider-man/Deadpool comic, it's pretty decent and the last issue ended with Mephisto talking to Spidey, so they may finally address the idiocy of One More Day
There were a couple good titles and the end was decent in my opinion. Actually I think spider island which came out same time was the better story in my opinion (and I did like renew your vows)
+The Nerd View Review I just didn't like it. just an excuse to start a bunch of new number ones again. Spider Island was okay, but not very memorable. Renew Your Vows felt more like a What If Never Made The Deal Mephisto story, if only it was canon
Greg Land sounds like an amusement park he named after himself
Like Bob Funland?
Welcome to Greg-Land! The most traced place on Earth!
I think of this every time I hear his name now
I’m reminded of Daveland from Smiling Friends.
"Ultimate Power must be what Greg Land has considering he still gets work"
I love that line
Here's a fun game: Look at Greg Land's artwork and speculate on what wacky erotic scenarios are being depicted in the source material. Your imagination is the limit!
1:25 I’m guessing the model just saw a guy with a subway sandwhich ttttthhhhhhiiiiiiiiiiisssssssss llllllooooooooonnnnnnngggggg
If Land is only going to draw characters with wide open mouths, then he should probably draw for Black Canary or Banshee.
or a Gender Bender version of Black Bolt
Not even draw. Trace.
You know what else is terrible from using tracing? Inconsistent shading and perspective. Basically, it means that each characters doesn't have the same light source (made even worse if flipped or rotated) and that they never really appear to be drawn in the same ground at the same angle, resulting in messy artwork where the characters basically looks like a collage from magazines and no solid notion of space.
Hey can we all bump up this very good post? This is a very strong reason why that shitstain boy Land really won't be able to get away with traced thievery forever. I'm also pretty sure the buildup of his cheater antics alone will finally do him in, if not one last catalystic source that he chooses and can't bullshit a way out of. Just wait, and then relish in the schadenfreude. Comic industry success can't be faked, no matter what! B)
His panels do look like those collages from random magazine pictures we used to glue together in school. Nothing fits together and the characters don't "interact" with each other at all. It just looks odd because the human brain can't process visuals that cannot occur naturally into something that "flows". It's impossible to have five different light sources in one group shot that only affect one person in the shot respectively. Light doesn't work that way!
And yeah... that image of the female character in the fight scene Linkara points out? That's traced from a picture of a porn star getting banged from behind while she's standing on her right leg and her partner is holding up her left leg.
Greg Land, everybody! Why trace in-action pictures of female MMA fighters or wrestlers for your fight scenes when you can use porn instead. He should be called "One Hand" Land from now on.
I’m not a fan on hating tracers and baser’s (in fact I think there’s a lot of reasons that you should not treat them like thefts when real thefts just Steal Art. When tracers at least just credit the art they traced for there art. There’s two videos that show us the truth in this way but I’ll save it for later.) but mr. “I’m a dumbass who ‘accidentally’ became a Pedo (in comics?!)” Might also likes to use the pics of eat sandwiches that are big more than once in one page considering this man also got a bit too lazy with his work to even stop that from happening, knowing that he can also make a bad job not making evil p*rn. This is not a good sign for the world of men who love tracers and basers, and maybe it’s time to just fix this before it even hits anyone else.
So many characters singing the He-Man "Hey-ey-ey-ey-yeah!" song.
Hey! What's going on!... No seriously, what's going on?
@@andrejg4136 Especially with how thin the story is in this Crossover Miniseries.
And this was the "influence" for the 2015 Fantastic Fo... I MEAN... *FANT4STIC*!
that
explains
so much
+RedTailedSmeargle a little too much if you ask me
To be fair I heard that for the most part, Ultimate Fantastic Four was pretty good. At least in concept.
I've read the first 3 volumes of the series. the film did go with the parallel world thing like in the book, but that's all that it borrowed, minus young cast
daour the warren ellis and millar run (21-32) were some of the high points. for the most part is was enjoyable
Wait... How can a toy have TOO MANY points of articulation? They never have enough! You can never move them as well as a human being!
I think the issue is that the more points of articulation the easier the toy tends to break
Too much articulation prevents the toy from standing on its own.
squadron: "You took everything from us!"
Reed: "I don't even know who you are?"
Thanos: *nods approving*
The hell with Sue's face in the "Mom?" panel.
The poor ultimate universe. It started out well with a lot of promise and some of the character reimagining were great...then it fell off a damn cliff
And got eaten by zombies... I think?
@@battlion507 No it got eaten by cannibals. Because EDGY
I would disagree, I recently read ultimate X-Men and the ultimates and they were bad, but ultimate Spider-Man and Fantastic 4 actually start off really solid
What I wanna know is: if they make and sell toys based on the villains, can they sue them for using their likeness without approval ?
Most likely, yes. Even if they are villains, they still possess the same rights as anyone else. However, they probably couldn't do anything about since, being villains, they have probably committed an untold number of crimes. That means coming out of hiding to start a civil trial would likely wind up in them being arrested and tried in criminal court too. So that basically makes the toy line a big F you to the villains.
Pretty sure that doom don't give a crap about toys while he's fighting zombies xD
+Frselrey Garcia Actually, Doctor Doom action figures would sell like hot cakes. I'd buy one.
Frselrey Garcia
Meanwhile in a alternate dimension while Dr. Doom is wrestling with zombie She Hulk
Victor: Doom sense's his likness Being discraced. RICHARD!
Jenn:......Flesh!
The real question is who is buying terrorist action figures.
Still wanna know how bad it Land? He uses the same smile for EVERY character. He should be called "The Master of Copypaste"
Step 1. ctrl c
Step 2. ctrl v
Step 3. profit?
Another probelm with Land's characters all being in *dramatic poses* due to being traced - it seems like there are almost no full-body shots of the characters just standing or walking on the ground. It makes for weird framing and overly busy panels, and I'm sure it's because if you extended the drawings off-panel you'd see that they'd have to be all standing on different elevations.
Referencing: visual aid for me as an artist, so I may get my bearings while drawing a character in a certain way.
Tracing: copying from someone else's work. Tracing can assist an artist by basically helping them gain muscle memory about this specific pose, artwork or such. The problem with this is very simple: it is a study. While certain concept artists will show their work in concept books, studies aren't usually meant to be shown, unless they're really good. And even then they were most likely edited to look more orderly. Heaven knows I did that for my finals
Linkara: "I actually like Ultimate Reed more than 616 Reed"
Ultimate Universe: Reed is actually an asshole, turns evil, dissects Iron Man's brain while he's alive, and causes the Ultimate Universe to die.
He brings this up in the next ultimate power review
Still better than 616 reed
@@dalek--ck9oy True
@@dalek--ck9oy what did 616 reed do?
Be Reed. At least all of this bad things outside of being an asshole happeneed whe. Reed became a villain
Greg Land's artwork makes me uncomfortable. Also most of those poses don't even fit the situation.
It's funny that some of the ones he used in Phoenix: Endsong have become known as some of Jean Grey's most iconic...
Matthew Walton especially his flying poses it looks like he was predicting the t pose meme and drew all his flying characters that way for lols
Still better then Frank Millers artwork in Dark Knight Strikes Again
@@ambroseburnside1950 Frank Miller's artwork reminds of an amateur Gennedy Tartakovsky or a Craig McCracken with all the sharp designs of the characters.
The art in issue 2 had me in stitches.
I'll never be able to get those images out of my head XD
The fact that Storm has facial proportions clearly taken from a white woman is throwing me off.
You don't need big lips and fat noses... but jesus, the races look different you know!
All those names Ultimate Kitty went through were all ones the main universe one used, aren't they? She has gone through more than Hank Pym...
LOL and more they forgot Sprite
ULTIMATE KITTY
Idk why but that sounds silly
+MegaDeathRay10 but with Kitty she'd appreciate the silliness
I think that's supposed to to be the joke...but it's not funny.
Um, nope, I don't think so. Kitty's names in main universe have been Ariel, Sprite and Shadowcat. Ultimate Kitty used Shroud (mentioned here) and maybe Shadowcat & Cat. I know there was at least one alternate Kitty who went by Cat but main Kitty has never used Cat or Shroud
Geez, these comics honestly make me glad that the only Ultimates material I grew up with was the Ultimate Avengers animated movies.
These horrible Comics make me grateful that the much better version of the Ultimates the MCU Exist. At least that one understands it main characters and Cap isn't a Racist a-hole lol.
Still lose my shit over the talking of the bad artwork. "He's trying to eat a sandwich THIS big".
Maybe Greg Land should just be an inker for comic books instead!
(Insert Chasing Amy joke here!)
Yay! Another more than meets the eye fan!
-_- That is REALLY insulting inkers.
I was attempting a Chasing Amy reference (where Jason Lee's character, who is an inker, completely loses his shit when a fan at a comic con trolls Lee by calling him a tracer *to his face!!!*). I bear no malice towards inkers for any piece of artwork that they help an artist complete.
Or are you saying that not even Mr Land deserves to be doing any inking for comics, either?
You know, I have to wonder if Reed just wanted to cheat and simply ask an alternate universe Reed if they knew a cure. I mean, what's stopping people from going into other universes and just asking about things they may know that we don't.
Reed Richards: the only man that could destroy a planet with what basically amounts to photography equipment.
To be fair in this case, the Probe was sabotaged by someone outside of Reed's control.
@@eamonndeane587 Fair, fair.
Hyperion's O face is stuck.
Linkara; Go to all of the hells.
Piccolo: ALL OF THEM!?
Seriously, that's a lot of hells.
I needed this.
I was feeling down because my drawings never come out right...but at least I draw them myself!
12:32 I think he’s trying to find a universe where Ben WAS cured, and use the same method.
Okay, I'm going to say something nice about the art: Due to Greg Land's terrible habit of tracing.... most (if not all) the women actually have "decent" tops. That is there is very little of the 'Boob Sock' effect in this that I've seen.
... that's it. That's the only good I can say, and it's only a side effect of the shitty thing an artist did. It's not even intentional.
Greg's traced real-life porn stars look less exaggeratedly "porny" than the female characters that some other comic book artists _actually draw_ . If that doesn't say something about the industry and its culture...
8:59 And Sue _marries_ this asshole. I mean, I know Reed's a massive tool in this universe, but Ben isn't really coming off as any better, here.
Ironic considering how Kate Mara and Jamie Bell started dating after playing Susan Storm and Ben Grimm in the 2015 FF film, got married and had a daughter together.
6:45 for the record, Doc Spectrum's power comes from the jewel embedded in his hand, hence the one-sided glow.
hmm, nice to know a lot of (us) comic artists aren't allowed work in claim of how competitive the industry is and yet this guy gets the jobs. Can never wrong an artist for their work, but this guy is barely putting in any effort. I'm also noticing how he will mash poses and photos together to try to make a whole different pose, and some where the bodies are just drawn from his head- almost like a Liefeld drawing
Yeah, it baffles me to no end and makes me sad to think that there are probably hundreds if not thousands of great artists out there who would deserve to get more work from the comic companies and yet guys like Land (and Liefeld) get hired despite their poor work ethics and laziness. I'm starting to think that Land must have some dirt on some editors to get so much work on so many big flagship books (Iron Man & multiple X-Men books). Seriously it is the only explanation I can think of that makes any sense since there is no way someone can look at Land's porn tracings and consider them great or even acceptable. They just look so atrocious most of the times and often take you out of the story because they are so out of place.
Personally, I am so tired and angry at Land getting work on major books nowadays that I refuse to support any book he draws for. No matter how good the writer is or how well written the story is I just can't bring myself to buy any comic that has Land on art duties because his art is so fugly.
@@smashmaster521 Why do you like Greg Land?
@@smashmaster521 Greg Land didn't do Marvel Zombies.
Citation:
Marvel Zombies- Wikipedia
Note: I would give you the link but something screwy is going on with my copy link button on my mobile devices.
Also, the mouths wide open thing makes them look like they're all doing a high note as the brawl.
Ultimate power Reed Richards, action figure expert, worst teenage scientist, universes worst friend
Worst Boyfriend too. Like who proposes at your girlfriends fathers funeral? He was asking to get dumped that day ... followed by becoming a super villain.
26:44 Kind of Wonder Woman throwing a fit at a board meeting talking about her Action Figure.
Damn right the tie-ends are awesome!! Also it's great that my favorite reviewer is reading my favorite marvel heroine's comic(Ms Marvel)
yay ;)
So, are those women supposed to be the Ultimate Serpent Society?
id think so
Probably.
For trying to make things newer/more relevant, the Ultimate Universe inevitably raised more questions then it answered.
RedTailedSmeargle unfortunately we are never going to find out about these questions because the ultimate universe is now dead
Oh, god, I hope not
@Sparten 117 yup indeed
*Marvel Ultimate Power but every time a character opens their mouth, Big Enough plays*
Sue Storm: What is wrong with you guys?
The Thing: We're written by a guy who uses porn for inspiration. What do you think?
Rob Liefeld traces, and his art *still* comes out looking like high school doodles? He just keeps hitting new lows, doesn't he?
The only reasoning I can see behind Reed wanting to send out so many probes into parallel universes is *possibly* in the hopes of finding a universe in which the accident occurred but they had the technology or medical know-how in order to reverse it. I don't know anything about the Ultimate universe, nor have I read any Fan. 4 comics ever in either universe soooo there's always a chance I'm wrong and/or they tried this already.
Wow! We're already up to 350 episodes?! Can't believe you're almost caught up with your upload schedule, so keep up the good work :)
Linkara are you sure your not the Flash?
“Seriously, why are you even doing superhero comics if you’re not going to embrace the insanity of them?”
Wait until you read the Ultimates issue where (SPOILERS) evil Ultimate Reed Richards is defeated by Ultimate Tony Stark’s talking brain tumour.
I made my own comment about the ultimate fantastic four comic, when they fought Namor, he jumped out of the ocean doing the same wide arm things as hyperion. I said, " He saw a fish 'this' big"
At least Frank Miller does his own art. It wouldn't be so bad if he was taking these images he was tracing from, but no, he just takes any random porno mag and calls it a day.
It's really bad when modern frank miller can be complimented
I was so glad when Lewis reviewed this comic, seeing how I have a Stan Lee autographed copy of it.
Why would anyone have asked Stan to autograph ....THIS? If I had the choice between signing this and a used napkin..I would have had a usen Stan Le napkin lol
Why would Johnny object that his action figure has too many points of articulation?? Wouldn't that guarantee that the toys would sell an be a big hit??
I mean I collect action figures so ya get where I'm coming from right???
Speaking of Galactus and the Ultimate universe, there was actually an event in the Ultimate universe called "Cataclysm" wherein Galactus - the main universe Galactus - crossed over into the Ultimate universe and attacked the Earth, forcing the heroes of the Ultimate universe to band together and attempt to fend him off.
Wait- how many parallel reeds would be sending out the exact same number of probes to the exact same spot? Sounds like a massive dimensional clustrfck.
Earth in every universe gets buried in infinite probes from infinite alternate Reed Richards
This is why I don't let Reed touch my car
I nearly died at 21:18 and the "rocket-powered flatulence".
XD
With the source material I was expecting a explosive orgasm power lol
I did the mathematics, apparently each probe costs five thousand, two hundred thirty-eight and nine thousand, five hundred twenty-four hundred-thousandths dollars each
$5238.95, then.
TheSefirosu200x Pretty much
I recently read the original Nightwing mini-series which was penciled by Greg Land, it appears it was before he traced but its so hard to get through because it's very lifield inspired. I'm curious what you mean when you said he did good artwork once.
Eamonn Deane Interesting, I'll check that out.
You've just roasted every artist's worst fear: Tracing
UNLIMITED POWER!!!!!!
I had to say it.
24:40 Haha, okay. That looks exactly like the pro wrestler Triple H. In fact, if you google 'Triple H pose' you'll find countless pictures like that.
The repeating expressions crack me up. Who fights with their mouths wide open and eyes squinting like that?
Greg Land turned Reed Richards into Steve Jobs at @12:03
17:48 So it's basically Ultimate Youngblood?
EDIT 18:45 Yep. Definitely Ultimate Youngblood.
Jonathan Brown well it is bad enough for that name to make sense.
this is still my favorite channels and I celebrated this video
15:13-15:15
Didn't ultimate Ben Grimm kill Victor in ultimatum , by crushing his head ?
He actually killed Susan and Johnny Storm's mother who was acting as a decoy on Doctor Doom's behalf....
In case you were wondering, this was revealed in a lazily done retcon done after Ultimatum.
@@eamonndeane587 And even more lazily they never explain how Doom survived Zombie world when everyone else fell so easily....or how he got out when the Watcher had locked the zombie worlds together to contain them
2:58 why does Sue have Reed’s stretching powers?
From what I understand, the original Stracynzski stories were pretty good, and they had an interesting angle: kind of a "Reverse-Watchmen." It started with the characters being complete jerks, and then softened them, having them grow and become better people. Then, this comic came out and erased all that hard work and good will. Nice going.
Yayy! The 350th episode! !!!!...though you're actually more than 400 episodes technically so congrats on that.
A big problem with greg lands tracing is that it makes action look stiff and boring.
I think you should give Secret Wars (2015) a shot, because it was a really good event a great finale to Jhonathan Jickman's Fantastic Four/Avengers Run, but in order to read it there's quite a lot of backstory to read (Mostly jus Avengers and New Avengers) so because of that you might never do it, anyway good video like always, even in 2017
...the back of the trade he's holding says "A treat of strong writing and excellent artwork" and after just getting a glimpse of the ridiculous snake women I'd like to know how much whoever supplied that quote was paid for it.
22:18 Aside from screwing up her powers and speech Arcana seemed to have contracted Youngblood’s disease (pause up here and look at the top)
How is Land so bad at anatomy if all he does is trace things? It's like double incompetence...
From what I researched, Renew Your Vows takes place in a different universe(or Battleworld) and has no connection to the main universe. Kinda
It's more of some continuation of the late 1990s, and it still does not solve the OMD curse.
You are the most entertaining person on TH-cam I love the comics and the critiques
What kinda board game cost 22 million dollars give or take to make?
While tracing is bad...sometimes, i personally think that there are at least three things that can excuse tracing:
1. The comic/art is free. It doesn't matter if it's traced or if it's terrible, it's free.
2. It's only for the cover. Because it is a common practice to trace famous covers. (Example: crisis on infinite earths's "superman hold the dead body of supergirl" and amazing fantasy no. 15.)
3. It's a movie adaption. The whole point is to make the comic just like the movie. So it would make sense to trace the scenes from the movie for the adaption.
Grag land......doesn't do any of these three things!
Hey, Linkara. You mentioned reading Miss Marvel for fun. Ever pick up Hawkeye. From what I can tell it was (mostly) a well-written series. Especially issues 11 and 19; I think they might be worth an Atop the Fourth Wall Episode because they try to experiment with new methods of story telling.
hey Linkara! thoughts on the deadpool/Spidey series poking old myphisto-y wounds?
he doesn't read Spiderman at all anymore.
Unless Marvel finally does something about the Satan deal or ya know, Joe Quesadilla is removed from Marvel, maybe.
+sephiroth Cross does that apply to his cross overs as well? I get not reading any of his main series as it's just not the character he wants but not reading the crossovers feels a bit petty.
+The Nerd View Review not sure how far the rabbit hole goes honestly.
Reallyrandomcircle Honestly from what I've read so far, that plot point seems to end as quickly as it randomly came in, so... I'm kinda willing to forget it even happened and enjoy the rest of the series?
19:26 - 19:50 I thought ShadowCat was fine. Why did she need to change it to Shroud anyway?
She did because t that time Mutants were pariah after Magneto nearly wiped out world and killed off millions of New Yorkers. So she put on a full costume (looking more like the Crimson Cowl) to disguise herself
@@jfdrac While I hate the circumstances that made her wear the costume, I actually think it looked kick ass on Kitty.
14:53 ooooor..... They shut it down when they're not using (y'know off panel) and he just turned it on before throwing the things
Wait, you would think if Land is just tracing pictures of real people they would at least be standing and posing in realistic poses that can really be done with the human body.
wait thats not the Baxter building thats where the Ghostbusters are fighting Gozer
I would recommend checking out renew your vows. It's the best Spider-Man book that Marvel is currently printing.
He might have checked it at some point, and it confirmed his suspicions that Marvel is still not dealing the OMD problem.
@@alexandredesbiens-brassard9109 The greatest Spider-Man villains are likely the snarling wolves of Sony (depending on their mood) and Joe Quesada (obviously).
If that's the standard of quality Spider-Man books have to look forward for, then truly Spidey is a dead and pathetic franchise.
You like that ultimate reed richards because hes nice well youre not going to like what happens the maker.
Tracing over photos is fine in moderation, when you're learning to draw and you need help building muscle memory when working or figuring out how to break things down into basic shapes, but dear god dont trace over another person's art or trace over photos or videos for paid work!
"It really seems like he cares about his friends"
No one tell him
They did. -_-
@@AT4W this comic was the Major influence on Fant4stic, guess both of those sucked.
How is inking not tracing again?
[/Chasing Amy reference]
I don't know about this Greg Land.... But i know about Polnareff Land and that my friend is a magical place
I have one question why dont toylines have a falmed off johnny both in the real world and in the comic. Two reasons thats how he appears most of the time and all they would have to do is put a new head on a reed richards body.
I sometimes wonder what it was that prompted both Sony and Fox to decide to use the ultimate universe for their reboots. Not that Ultimate Spiderman and FF are bad.
Just find it weird/curious that they both decided to use the same alternate universe for their reboots.
shadowspider9 Well Sony did use the actual universe for their first set of movies.
The MCU did tgesame thing lol
20:27 I literally bursted with laughter beacuse of that laziness
Do the serpent squad also worship the same snake that Alan Moore does?
not to sound like a dick but....I actually laughed when Ben called dibs....I am a horrible person
Wait a second... Lands could keep his art even MORE consistent with tracing! All he has to do is choose a specific person to trace for each character! Because, in real life, people actually LOOK CONSISTENT, then his art should, as well! If the problem is he can't find a picture of, say, Matt Smith (just a random example) with a smiling face standing in a certain spot at a certain angle, then all he has to do is create a composite from multiple images where the specific PARTS are angled correctly! How hard is that?!
I'm only taking Linkara's word for it, since I do a actually have some comic issues with Lands as the artist and I always thought everything looked fine.
7:51- And this origin was later adapted to Fant4stic.
The sources being commonly pornographic? No worse than stealing from elsewhere at first glance... then you realize you're reading his personal "spank bank"
The real problem in my view is that he's using them in contexts where it looks silly. Sue Storm with a porn look in a context in which she should be scared looks dumb. There's really no way to make it look ok.
Hey Lewis if you have time mind reviewing cap. America Steve rogers issue 1
Here's a tough one: which is worse, the art or the writing?
0:30 You brought him up during the Ultimatum review, I know that much.
... or was it Ultimates 3?
one of the two.
HalfTangible ultimateum
the new Secret Wars sucked, too many titles and you have no idea what's going if you only read the main title. Renew Your Vows was the best Webhead story I've read in a long time. by the way Lew, can you review Spider-man Dead No More after the whole story is out? comes out in the Fall. they're bringing back multiple people. also, check out the Spider-man/Deadpool comic, it's pretty decent and the last issue ended with Mephisto talking to Spidey, so they may finally address the idiocy of One More Day
He's not gonna read spiderman againg until the deal with Memphisto is fixed and not with a retcon
+Frselrey Garcia the Spidey/Deadpool crossover may be heading in that direction, so we shall see in the next few issues
There were a couple good titles and the end was decent in my opinion. Actually I think spider island which came out same time was the better story in my opinion (and I did like renew your vows)
+The Nerd View Review I just didn't like it. just an excuse to start a bunch of new number ones again. Spider Island was okay, but not very memorable. Renew Your Vows felt more like a What If Never Made The Deal Mephisto story, if only it was canon
+HeadBangerAust *What If Spiderman. freaking phone freezing sucks!
Fun fact! Ultimate Doctor Doom is NOT Victor Von Doom... it is in fact Johnny and Sue Storm's MOTHER!
Ah Greg Land....it is surprising how long it took to get to his monstrosities.
16:43 TIME 4 BACKSTORY!