I feel like this has to do with SBMM making it more frustrating for players that are better. Obviously there are a bunch of other factors too, but the SBMM prolly has sth to do with it.
This video is literally just you complaining about the grind after Orion, which is completely unnecessary to do and you know the reward is going to be a calling card. So if your going to complain don’t do the grind. You straight up act like this is mandatory. You goof
I finished the M13 already but decided to just knock out each gold mastery challenger first. The grind just goes on forever because we don’t have shipment yet. Shoothouse is great but because of the slower pace of play, you will see a lot of camping and angle holding on one side of the map by an entire team.
@@TechnicallyWild I just didn’t want to get stuck on one gun for hours at a time. Feels like i make more progress that way. But honestly, it’s a grind either way.
I play shoot house and have gotten gold and platinum for most Ars and some smgs already in the last week and I work 13 hour shifts I personally think it’s easy especially since you know where people will camp
I understand how you feel about shipment. While I'm not finished with Orion itself and will most likely get it before the mid-season, I know that for others who are further behind will catch up at crazy rates. In the past I did abuse nuketown and shipment but if felt like the challenges for those games were build around the idea of those maps being the most efficient way to get stuff done. With MWII, it'll be too easy.
I mean this is true im a little over halfway through the orion grind and yeah i have the midndset of that when shipment comes out i will make so much progress in a little amount of time ill be done super quick
I wanted to grind for the first time for dark matter but I now just got gold the weapons I use and that's because you gotta get through the one before dark matter
I love this channel! It is def an S-tier YT page. And I completely understand everything discussed in this video. I think this time around, I just hate that the ease of getting camos makes everyone feel like they absolutely need to grind for Orion. It’s like there’s not a single person who isn’t going for Orion.
I've started using shoothouse for camos and leveling since it seems to be faster than invasion for me, and I've noticed so much more camping on shoothouse than in mw19 its very painful
@@obitouchiha9446 yeah it's usually pretty easy to deal with since I always have Semtex on or something to help when there's someone in the window room, gets annoying though when I'm using a gun with a long ads time
My experience with shoot house camping is that usually i am working on the gold challenge and the house is pretty safe so i dont have to worry as much about dying. As long as i am not doing a gold challenge i am not really camping there.
I'm in a similar spot. I'm not much of a grinder but I'm going for orion, and I've gotten platinum ARs (including the M13) and I'm halfway to platinum SMGs (6/9 gold). But I noticed that at all times I'm basically either levelling up these guns, or doing challenges, and I feel like that kinda sucks. I've basically thrown away all of the guns I would normally be using in favour of new ones for the grind. Every time I try to use a gun I'm already "done" with, it feels like I'm wasting time that could be used on the camo grind. A similar thing happened with cold war where when the game came out I decided I wanted DM Ultra, but I spent a long time only grinding weapons and burnt out on the game midway through season 1. I ended up giving up on DM Ultra, and then in Season 3 I got Dark Aether. It was only this year back in Season 2 of vanguard that I went back and got DM Ultra since I was bored of vanguard and I already had the guns levelled up. I think once I'm done with platinum SMGs I'm gonna give the grind a rest. At least when it's not a 2XP weekend.
I had an easy time getting damascus but orion to me is really annoying... tbh I think once the gun max level and you have passed the 4 initial camos, gold,platinum,and poly challenges should all unlock so you can work on multiple camos at the same time and orion camo would require 51 gold l,51 Plat, and 51 poly instead of having to go all 3 kills w out dying,then all longshots,then all headshots.
i wish they didnt make you max level the gun to get all of the camos. They should just make the camos harder and let you work on them all without the gun maxed. It just feels so boring playing hours with a revolver to get it to level 29 to finish the challenge in 5 minutes.
My problem with this game is that the game caters to camping. So because of SBMM, you see more campers in your lobbies the better you do because camping gives you a higher KDR in this game. I am literally being punished for being good at the game and that is so frustrating because this game has so much potential and I love how it plays. I just wish Infinity Ward would listen.
It’s way too aggressive. If they dialed back on SBMM it would be much better. Getting rid of it entirely is a bad idea but rn they have it at an extreme level. They need to be in this middle area
Grand Mastery does in fact have a weapon charm as a final reward, but I would be willing to bet with 90% certainty that the actual final reward will be the ability to mix and match camos like IW accidentally posted pre-launch.
Absolute goat. Felt like a friendly conversation, and completely paralleled how I currently feel. I know there’s no rush but there’s something so tedious about this. SBMM has been my main suspect for the case.
Dude I also knew I wasn’t the only one who felt like Shoothouse felt so much different. Not appearance wise but how it plays. It came to a point that the first day it came out after playing for some time, I felt I had more fun playing on the base maps than Shoothouse. I just didn’t enjoy it that much.
I agree, haven't played shoothouse since the first day as well. The base maps have been fun and I feel like the spawns have improved slightly with the latest update.
@@htpcuser6980 yeah, I played some shoot house again yesterday but only one time and after that I decided to go back to base maps. Haha. I mean at first I was upset they were bringing back shoothouse and shipment first but you know what, I guess it’s better to get those maps out of the way first since they would’ve added them eventually
I've been playing cod since Bo1, this is the first cod where I go for the 'ultimate' camo. Normally I went for diamond on one class and stopped going for camo's after that. This is the first cod where I'm going for that 'ultimate' camo, in this case Orion. The thing that makes the experience tedious and less fun is absolutely the SBMM. Pre-season it felt good, it felt like the SBMM was 'just right' in the way that it's challenging but not sweaty. But now it's actually ruining the experience for me. I feel like the only way to have fun as a semi-casual player is to reverse boost and that costs a lot of money to do (buying the game again for another console or pc). Finding a work around for SBMM feels wrong as well, it's something that doesn't make me want to buy another cod (yet I still keep doing it for some reason). If they would just lower SBMM again, the game would feel so much more fun to play. I'm not going to attempt the mastery challenges for that exact reason. I just wouldn't have fun doing it, and that's ultimately why I play games; to have fun. I hope when they release ranked they will lower SBMM in core. Doubting that. But if they don't, my journey of 'grinding' the game ends when I have finally reached the goal of getting Orion camo.
That’s crazy I’m the same way where I started with bo1 and this is the first time I’m trying to get the ultimate camo. You used to have to get a shit ton of headshots and I just never tried it. Feel the same way about sbmm too.
They changed a lot of what made shoot house good, the car in C spawn that you could use to peak into junkyard you can't really use anymore, junkyard has too many OP head glitches, can't wall bang crates, uneven ground making some spots inconsistent ect
4:45 “all 6 enemies camping up there” Lmao I sat up there alone for an ENITRE game by the door waiting for point blanks and not a single soul came up. 20min hardpoint game and I went 0/0 lol
Finally someone saying exactly what I’ve been saying about shoot house it just doesn’t feel like I can make progress on that map. Currently 37/51 gold weapons and shoot house is the last place I want to be.
Nah that Shoothouse take is so valid. I'll be playing and I'll be like bruh this was one of my favorite maps in MW2019 and now I usually don't play it because of head glitching and camping in that office
So I am in a boat where i am parralelling camos with weapon mastery. Currently launchers are ready for camos and just finished knife platium and riotshield needs its mastery kills. no bullet weapons touched yet except for those that had reciever trees. I feel this would be the best way to do the grinds since when you get orion you only need the 400 kills instead of the daunting 1k. Yes I am feeling the effects of SBMM. Without the change in my play I am consistantly on bottom in a sweaty "ranked" lobby or i'm on top running streaks of 3+. Now this will even out when i jump to bullet weapons just trying to get the salty/sweaty grinds out of the way first.
shoot house is very repetitive to farm camos on it’s always someone camping the window or the sniping post more times than not which just becomes annoying after the 2nd death to it, also Shipment is coming December 14th with the reloaded updated not sure as to when the last weapon is coming for this season but that’s when it’s coming
I’m not seeing many people talk about this but I would HIGHLY suggest trying headquarters. The one downfall for the game mode is it often takes longer to complete so if your goal is battle pass progression then don’t go for HQ. But if all I’m doing is going for kills without trying to get long shots, prone kills, etc. then I commonly get to about 40-60 kills a game; even hit 80 at one point. And I’m pretty not great at the game, I just don’t see a lot of content creators talk about it.
I don’t have Orion yet, but what I planned on doing is getting all guns plat and then go for the 100 kills with gold and 200 with plat. That way I’ll knock those out and chances are I’ll get 25 headshots in the 300 kills
When I saw the camo challenges for mw2 I was shocked with how easy they looked. But as I’m grinding the camos I’m really noticing the slow paced gameplay. When Shoothouse released I felt at peace, but little did I know the gameplay would be so bad. I’m disappointed with how much campers I run into and the overall feel of Shoothouse in mw2. What’s even more annoying is that hardly anyone goes for long shots down that famous middle lane. So it’s taking me forever to finish long shots. At the moment I’ve taken a break with long shots and have decided to finish up getting gold on the rest of my weapons. I can’t wait until shipment comes out so I can speed up the process. Getting damascus in mw19 was pretty difficult but the gameplay was always action packed, making the process go by faster for me. I wish the same can happen in mw2, because the challenges may look easier but there’s still quite a lot for you to do.
I got 8 platinum challenges done today, just go to tier one, put on the optic that shows how many meters, and try to get embassy and other maps where longshots come.
not sure if its legit but apparently completing the mastery challenges, you get the charm and the ability to equip any two camos on a gun. if you look up the original pictures of the mastery camo that was put out you can see poly with orion and plat with gold on the same gun
Ik I'm late but btw shipment is 100% confirmed to come out on the 14th so in 2 weeks and they have confirmed that once you do finish every (Orion and the mastery grind) then you get a big reward
“Hardcore” is just both teams sitting in the back of the map trying to get longshots on each other for platinum. Im also finishing up my longshot challenges but its rare to see a game of Hardpoint go until 250 points.
I found long shots really easy on most maps. In past games and through out cod history maps are usually designed with specific areas to excel with any range of weapon. Only some locations could enact long shots. Same can be said for close and medium ranged weapons. Maps are usually designed for all styles of play but in specific locations.
I 100% agree. Shoothouse doesn’t feel the same as it did in MW2019. Nobody moves. You come around a corner and they are mounted or laying down in the grass that the developers decided to add 😂🤦🏻♂️
If I were going for the weapon mastery i would do all 100 kills with gold first. Then 200 kills with plat on all guns and so on. To get some gun variety and so on.
I have plat smgs and ar’s and working on marksman I’m not in a rush due to dlc weapons counting towards the mastery camo this year so I can avoid the shitty classes once the honey badger comes out it’s possible to get Orion without doing launchers and once you get the camo you can use it on any gun without having to unlock it anyways
My cousin dropped a nuke with only a knife, so its not impossible. That, however, was in the first two weeks of release so I’m sure it will be nowhere near as easy now as it was then.
I have almost everything gold now and I’m about to start on my longshots. Everything up to this point felt rough but I’m ready for doing just longshots and then just headshots for many matches.
I feel bad for you, you should have done platinum every time you were able to for a category. Now you'll have to get longshots on 51 guns in a row. I hope it won't be too repetitive and boring for you. Best of luck!
Shoot house does feel a lot more annoying to grind as so many people abuse the truck headglitch, and overall pace feels very weird, and spawn does not help either. But it is the fastest mode to grind out a gun as of right now so there is nothing i can do. if they somehow make shipment bad it would be very annoying.
Since there are new weapons out, can we choose to skip 3 weapons in favour if the new ones? I’m about 20 gold camos in and would rather not do a few of the launchers if I can use another one to get to the 51?
It's because in mw:19 the camo challenges were unlocked following a "natural" pattern, i mean, yes 800 kills are a lot, same for headshots and crouch kills, but you do those by naturally playing the game, only thing you had to care for was mounted kills and no attachments kills, but other then that you could basically unlock gold by playing the game normally. Here is different because you unlock more challenges once you get other golds/plats, meaning that you only need to complete a single challenge most of the times. Like when you complete golds on ar and you go for plats, you have to grind only longshot with every ar so it's more frustrating and inneficent compared to mw:19 where you allways grinded more then a single challenge every time (except for a few cases). So yeah when golds are much easyer to get then before, other camos require quite a lot of times and patience because you end up grinding the same challenge but for different weapons over and over
If you would have unlocked the gold camo then do the kills then move on to next weapon and repeat until Orion you would more than likely felt satisfied
I grind shoothouse 24/7 for about 100h the last days. Camos only and it’s „ok“. But it seems I’m very very slow to level up weapons. I’m rank 190 and not even close to have every weapon max ..
This is my first time going for the mastery camo and it is fairly simple but leveling sucks and for me personally I will probably only go for the mastery challenge on guns I really like unless they have a camo after finishing it.
I some way I kinda like this version of shot house because not many people don’t want to play it, the last thing that I want is that the multiplayer become just a weapon levelling simulator like in the past 2 and a half years. I know that shipment and shot house make the grind even more straightforward, but I just feel something wrong with having a 24/7 playlist only for shipment and shothouse. The only thing that needs to chang imo is the tier 1, at list they need to put the emblems when you complete the challenges
Have all AR’s, smgs, battlerifles, lmgs, and snipers platinum. 3 pistols gold, marksman rifles still all just need the gold challenge. Shotguns all about level 3-5, haven’t even touched the melee. Stills feels like I’m so far away from Orion
I couldn’t agree w u more, I got damascus in mw and on every single weapon w the exception of the dual kodacis cus of the player base rn but I also got obsidian on 11 weapons, however when I unlocked plantnium and gold for the so 14 - istg I have never wanted to kill myself even more cus that shit was sooooo asss even worse than getting all the launchers platinum and I’m just convinced that this game does anything it can to make the challenges u need to complete a lot more difficult than within a necessary match
I’m still working on plat right now but I’m taking it slower and as soon as I get Gold on a gun I knock out the 100 kills for that mastery so that way once I get orion I’ve finished everything else. Launchers are taking the longest though.
A few things to mention, I have about 28 gold guns unlocked except I’ve been going the route of doing the complete weapon tree and completing camo’s that way rather than going through every gun in the category. I’m sure it’s not different, as you end up with the same result. Second point, I’m surprised we haven’t received a 2x weapon XP weekend yet, considering the game has been out for a month and we’ve had weekends in past cod games seems like within a week or two of launch. I’ve already burn through all my free weapon XP from battle pass or from purchase of the game, and now I feel like my progress in terms of levelling guns has been reduced. Really need that free weekend like ASAP.
You can do contracts in warzone then spend the money you got from the contracts on armor plates while holding your gun, I leveled up half of the weapons in one day to max by doing this method.
Tier 1 mode is hardcore. Also, I haven't had this much fun playing CoD since BO2. I've never done the camo grind for any CoD, other than get the 2-3 guns i enjoy the most gold, and that's about it. I just finished getting all AR's platinum. Now, other than having to sweat almost every game (which i tbh dont mind, I'm fine with sweating but I'm not an elite player), I'm having a blast!
@@TechnicallyWild I thought Hardcore was just a mode with increased bullet damage, friendly fire, lower health, and no HUD? That's what Tier 1 is whenever I play it.
@@Redd_270 Hardcore mode has 30 health (100 is standard) You still have a limited hud with hit markers and a few other added setting like no health regen. Realism had no hud at all, no hit markers, no kill feed, but the damage profiles still stayed to same everyone had 100 health except head shots were an insta kill regardless of range or gun
@@TechnicallyWild So basically Tier 1 is like an in between? Or like, hardcore mode but with no HUD at all and extremely slow health regen. Tbh, I've played all 3 of these modes and they are way too similar in my eyes apart from 1 little change here or there.
Also what’s the better faster way to compete the grind? I’ve been doing each category gold, then getting platinum, then moving onto the next. I completed snipers, marksman’s, Launchers, A’R’s, Smg’s. Should I continue this strategy or does anyone have a better ?
The best way I found was get gold on everything in a category and do the long shots asap. I can’t even imagine the pain of doing 51 guns worth of long shots in a row. Do the hardest weapons first since you never have to do them again and it’s easier to climb a hill all at once then slide down at the end rather then climb, fall, climb, fall
I’m trying to do the mastery for the camos as I unlock them. I realize it’ll be harder when I unlock polyatomic. But I’ve gotten gold mastery on 4/5 of my gold guns. Trying to do platinum mastery for the ARs before I move on. I’m slowly leveling up other stuff but it’s slow doing the mastery’s
When you were talking about the mastery camo requirements for mw2019, i was flabbergasted, i have damascus but i dont remember it being that frustraiting? Mw2 just doesnt feel right, most of the time i wanna pull out my hair, also ye the head glitches at the truck on shoot house are insane, i got half of my weapons gold just from that headglitch, i just throw down a trophy system and wait the wholr damn game, i usually get 6 kills without dying and suddenly the kills stop because the enemy team decided to go through another lane or camp themselves, which peobably is sooo fucking fustraiting having a section of the map blocked... great video btw
Yeah the mw19 felt like the challenges were harder but was far more enjoyable ): this game just promotes camping with the super fast ttk and is annoying to be aggressive given the lethals and tactical being downright abuse towards other players.
Once you are done the grind you never have to do it ever again. It takes some motivation. Climb that hill and once you’re at the top you have nothing left to climb and can relax and play how ever you want. Plus you get a exclusive reward
I will do my camo grind slowly as always nowadays. Not going to play shipment or shoot house at all. Imo those maps just take away the grind as people just rush the camos in those maps and after that complain they don't have anything to do in the game. I don't really care anymore if I see someone has those camos as I know they most likely just played 2 maps for hours to get em.
Whos cutting onions 🥲
Who isn't 😭
I feel like this has to do with SBMM making it more frustrating for players that are better. Obviously there are a bunch of other factors too, but the SBMM prolly has sth to do with it.
@@Goldenjeff21I don’t pay attention the SBMM too much. If I did I’d never play cod ever again. It got so annoying I gave up on caring
This video is literally just you complaining about the grind after Orion, which is completely unnecessary to do and you know the reward is going to be a calling card. So if your going to complain don’t do the grind. You straight up act like this is mandatory. You goof
@@andrewroff5387😴
I finished the M13 already but decided to just knock out each gold mastery challenger first. The grind just goes on forever because we don’t have shipment yet. Shoothouse is great but because of the slower pace of play, you will see a lot of camping and angle holding on one side of the map by an entire team.
Idk how good of an idea that is. Luckily I finished a few gold calling cards already while doing long shots and headshots for Plat and Poly
@@TechnicallyWild I just didn’t want to get stuck on one gun for hours at a time. Feels like i make more progress that way. But honestly, it’s a grind either way.
Man I thought I was the only one experiencing this, seems like shoot house is the most campy map.
I play shoot house and have gotten gold and platinum for most Ars and some smgs already in the last week and I work 13 hour shifts I personally think it’s easy especially since you know where people will camp
Those games where the entire team just camps the spawn and stares at a corner are awful
I understand how you feel about shipment. While I'm not finished with Orion itself and will most likely get it before the mid-season, I know that for others who are further behind will catch up at crazy rates. In the past I did abuse nuketown and shipment but if felt like the challenges for those games were build around the idea of those maps being the most efficient way to get stuff done. With MWII, it'll be too easy.
I mean this is true im a little over halfway through the orion grind and yeah i have the midndset of that when shipment comes out i will make so much progress in a little amount of time ill be done super quick
I wanted to grind for the first time for dark matter but I now just got gold the weapons I use and that's because you gotta get through the one before dark matter
I love this channel! It is def an S-tier YT page. And I completely understand everything discussed in this video. I think this time around, I just hate that the ease of getting camos makes everyone feel like they absolutely need to grind for Orion. It’s like there’s not a single person who isn’t going for Orion.
I've started using shoothouse for camos and leveling since it seems to be faster than invasion for me, and I've noticed so much more camping on shoothouse than in mw19 its very painful
Just gotta stun and prefire a lot, even though the camping is still there so I feel you
@@obitouchiha9446 yeah it's usually pretty easy to deal with since I always have Semtex on or something to help when there's someone in the window room, gets annoying though when I'm using a gun with a long ads time
@@acardboardbox29 agreed
it's because some of these ARs and SMGs kill so fast you have to watch the killcam to find out if it was a sniper or not
My experience with shoot house camping is that usually i am working on the gold challenge and the house is pretty safe so i dont have to worry as much about dying.
As long as i am not doing a gold challenge i am not really camping there.
I have no problems at all except getting frustrated
I'm in a similar spot. I'm not much of a grinder but I'm going for orion, and I've gotten platinum ARs (including the M13) and I'm halfway to platinum SMGs (6/9 gold). But I noticed that at all times I'm basically either levelling up these guns, or doing challenges, and I feel like that kinda sucks. I've basically thrown away all of the guns I would normally be using in favour of new ones for the grind. Every time I try to use a gun I'm already "done" with, it feels like I'm wasting time that could be used on the camo grind. A similar thing happened with cold war where when the game came out I decided I wanted DM Ultra, but I spent a long time only grinding weapons and burnt out on the game midway through season 1. I ended up giving up on DM Ultra, and then in Season 3 I got Dark Aether. It was only this year back in Season 2 of vanguard that I went back and got DM Ultra since I was bored of vanguard and I already had the guns levelled up. I think once I'm done with platinum SMGs I'm gonna give the grind a rest. At least when it's not a 2XP weekend.
I had an easy time getting damascus but orion to me is really annoying... tbh I think once the gun max level and you have passed the 4 initial camos, gold,platinum,and poly challenges should all unlock so you can work on multiple camos at the same time and orion camo would require 51 gold l,51 Plat, and 51 poly instead of having to go all 3 kills w out dying,then all longshots,then all headshots.
Definitely
i wish they didnt make you max level the gun to get all of the camos. They should just make the camos harder and let you work on them all without the gun maxed. It just feels so boring playing hours with a revolver to get it to level 29 to finish the challenge in 5 minutes.
@@fighterrnp idk if I agree. The challenges shouldn't be harder. They should be more creative
My problem with this game is that the game caters to camping. So because of SBMM, you see more campers in your lobbies the better you do because camping gives you a higher KDR in this game. I am literally being punished for being good at the game and that is so frustrating because this game has so much potential and I love how it plays. I just wish Infinity Ward would listen.
It’s way too aggressive. If they dialed back on SBMM it would be much better. Getting rid of it entirely is a bad idea but rn they have it at an extreme level. They need to be in this middle area
Grand Mastery does in fact have a weapon charm as a final reward, but I would be willing to bet with 90% certainty that the actual final reward will be the ability to mix and match camos like IW accidentally posted pre-launch.
Just wanna say congrats for 100k dude! I Stuck around for some years now and you well deserve it!
Top tier content as usual, you are in a category of your own.
Absolute goat. Felt like a friendly conversation, and completely paralleled how I currently feel. I know there’s no rush but there’s something so tedious about this. SBMM has been my main suspect for the case.
Dude I also knew I wasn’t the only one who felt like Shoothouse felt so much different. Not appearance wise but how it plays. It came to a point that the first day it came out after playing for some time, I felt I had more fun playing on the base maps than Shoothouse. I just didn’t enjoy it that much.
I agree, haven't played shoothouse since the first day as well. The base maps have been fun and I feel like the spawns have improved slightly with the latest update.
@@htpcuser6980 yeah, I played some shoot house again yesterday but only one time and after that I decided to go back to base maps. Haha. I mean at first I was upset they were bringing back shoothouse and shipment first but you know what, I guess it’s better to get those maps out of the way first since they would’ve added them eventually
@Matthew hermann oh I’m pretty sure I know what you’re talking about.
I like having to use all the camos. Mastery camo grinders never get to use gold or platinum because once you unlock it you go to the next gun.
I've been playing cod since Bo1, this is the first cod where I go for the 'ultimate' camo. Normally I went for diamond on one class and stopped going for camo's after that. This is the first cod where I'm going for that 'ultimate' camo, in this case Orion.
The thing that makes the experience tedious and less fun is absolutely the SBMM. Pre-season it felt good, it felt like the SBMM was 'just right' in the way that it's challenging but not sweaty. But now it's actually ruining the experience for me. I feel like the only way to have fun as a semi-casual player is to reverse boost and that costs a lot of money to do (buying the game again for another console or pc). Finding a work around for SBMM feels wrong as well, it's something that doesn't make me want to buy another cod (yet I still keep doing it for some reason).
If they would just lower SBMM again, the game would feel so much more fun to play. I'm not going to attempt the mastery challenges for that exact reason. I just wouldn't have fun doing it, and that's ultimately why I play games; to have fun.
I hope when they release ranked they will lower SBMM in core. Doubting that. But if they don't, my journey of 'grinding' the game ends when I have finally reached the goal of getting Orion camo.
That’s crazy I’m the same way where I started with bo1 and this is the first time I’m trying to get the ultimate camo. You used to have to get a shit ton of headshots and I just never tried it. Feel the same way about sbmm too.
It’s not hard it’s just so time consuming 😭
They changed a lot of what made shoot house good, the car in C spawn that you could use to peak into junkyard you can't really use anymore, junkyard has too many OP head glitches, can't wall bang crates, uneven ground making some spots inconsistent ect
4:45 “all 6 enemies camping up there”
Lmao I sat up there alone for an ENITRE game by the door waiting for point blanks and not a single soul came up. 20min hardpoint game and I went 0/0 lol
Finally someone saying exactly what I’ve been saying about shoot house it just doesn’t feel like I can make progress on that map. Currently 37/51 gold weapons and shoot house is the last place I want to be.
Nah that Shoothouse take is so valid. I'll be playing and I'll be like bruh this was one of my favorite maps in MW2019 and now I usually don't play it because of head glitching and camping in that office
So I am in a boat where i am parralelling camos with weapon mastery. Currently launchers are ready for camos and just finished knife platium and riotshield needs its mastery kills. no bullet weapons touched yet except for those that had reciever trees. I feel this would be the best way to do the grinds since when you get orion you only need the 400 kills instead of the daunting 1k. Yes I am feeling the effects of SBMM. Without the change in my play I am consistantly on bottom in a sweaty "ranked" lobby or i'm on top running streaks of 3+. Now this will even out when i jump to bullet weapons just trying to get the salty/sweaty grinds out of the way first.
shoot house is very repetitive to farm camos on it’s always someone camping the window or the sniping post more times than not which just becomes annoying after the 2nd death to it, also Shipment is coming December 14th with the reloaded updated not sure as to when the last weapon is coming for this season but that’s when it’s coming
congrats on 100k subs, just noticed it half way through the vid lol
I’m not seeing many people talk about this but I would HIGHLY suggest trying headquarters. The one downfall for the game mode is it often takes longer to complete so if your goal is battle pass progression then don’t go for HQ. But if all I’m doing is going for kills without trying to get long shots, prone kills, etc. then I commonly get to about 40-60 kills a game; even hit 80 at one point. And I’m pretty not great at the game, I just don’t see a lot of content creators talk about it.
I mean it’s kind of a good thing that it takes awhile, it’s meant to be an end goal
Got into a shipment game grinding camos and my WHOLE TEAM decided to camp upstairs while I was just pushing everyone else
It gets harder when you have a bug that doesn’t let you get long shots because the gold camos are stuck at 5/6
I don’t have Orion yet, but what I planned on doing is getting all guns plat and then go for the 100 kills with gold and 200 with plat. That way I’ll knock those out and chances are I’ll get 25 headshots in the 300 kills
When I saw the camo challenges for mw2 I was shocked with how easy they looked. But as I’m grinding the camos I’m really noticing the slow paced gameplay. When Shoothouse released I felt at peace, but little did I know the gameplay would be so bad. I’m disappointed with how much campers I run into and the overall feel of Shoothouse in mw2. What’s even more annoying is that hardly anyone goes for long shots down that famous middle lane. So it’s taking me forever to finish long shots. At the moment I’ve taken a break with long shots and have decided to finish up getting gold on the rest of my weapons. I can’t wait until shipment comes out so I can speed up the process. Getting damascus in mw19 was pretty difficult but the gameplay was always action packed, making the process go by faster for me. I wish the same can happen in mw2, because the challenges may look easier but there’s still quite a lot for you to do.
I got 8 platinum challenges done today, just go to tier one, put on the optic that shows how many meters, and try to get embassy and other maps where longshots come.
The secret charm is called grand mastery, it comes up on google if you search
not sure if its legit but apparently completing the mastery challenges, you get the charm and the ability to equip any two camos on a gun. if you look up the original pictures of the mastery camo that was put out you can see poly with orion and plat with gold on the same gun
What
Ik I'm late but btw shipment is 100% confirmed to come out on the 14th so in 2 weeks and they have confirmed that once you do finish every (Orion and the mastery grind) then you get a big reward
its crazy that i play a round of shipment and still have to deal with people mounted up in containers with shotguns
I’m glad I’m not the only one that thought shoot house felt different in this game than in 2019, it’s much slower and campier
and the spawns are horrific, especially on Hardpoint.
My challenges on the expedite are bugged out, super frustrating cuz I just can't make any more progress until they fix the glitched challenges
It's....Vanguard....all over again
“Hardcore” is just both teams sitting in the back of the map trying to get longshots on each other for platinum. Im also finishing up my longshot challenges but its rare to see a game of Hardpoint go until 250 points.
You should record u dropping the nukes and make a playlist I would love to see them
Heck yeah. That would be awesome
I feel like all of the maps go against the camo challenges. Longshots are straight up cancer to try to get unless you camp in very specific spots.
I found long shots really easy on most maps. In past games and through out cod history maps are usually designed with specific areas to excel with any range of weapon. Only some locations could enact long shots. Same can be said for close and medium ranged weapons. Maps are usually designed for all styles of play but in specific locations.
shoothouse does play weird af i think its the spawn logic messing with the flow
platinum challenge still bugged after almost two weeks 4/5 gold pistols (not visual glitch) :(
Damn I had that too but it fixed for me after the update, that’s messed up
Working on the riot shield recently and I already want to commit putting fork in electrical socket
I’m not ready for the melees or launchers. I’m gonna end of on the news for the crimes they will make me commit
@@TechnicallyWild probably gonna cause someone to pull a Mai Lai massacre just how mind numbing the melee weapons are
@No name guy I don't know how you do it man, I have to full on reverse boost just to be able to get camos on the shield
@No name guy took me 2hours from lvl1 to platinum for both
I did the riot shield and knife and it was annoying but not as bad as mw19
I 100% agree. Shoothouse doesn’t feel the same as it did in MW2019. Nobody moves. You come around a corner and they are mounted or laying down in the grass that the developers decided to add 😂🤦🏻♂️
The only problem i have with the camo grind is using the jokr rocket launcher lol, getting 1000 kills with that is crazy
If I were going for the weapon mastery i would do all 100 kills with gold first. Then 200 kills with plat on all guns and so on. To get some gun variety and so on.
Hello. Can u say ur video settings? Bcs my Orion looks bad. Thank you for ur content !
I have plat smgs and ar’s and working on marksman I’m not in a rush due to dlc weapons counting towards the mastery camo this year so I can avoid the shitty classes once the honey badger comes out it’s possible to get Orion without doing launchers and once you get the camo you can use it on any gun without having to unlock it anyways
I have a difference experience on shoot house. It was amazing for camo challenges. I get alot more kills in this game over MW2019.
Sooooo, you spent $70 to play a 15 year old map to grind a camo you don’t like that comes with a reward you won’t use? Rocket science, you say? Ah ha…
My cousin dropped a nuke with only a knife, so its not impossible. That, however, was in the first two weeks of release so I’m sure it will be nowhere near as easy now as it was then.
You unlock mastery camo customisation so you can mix the mastery camos together
I have almost everything gold now and I’m about to start on my longshots. Everything up to this point felt rough but I’m ready for doing just longshots and then just headshots for many matches.
I feel bad for you, you should have done platinum every time you were able to for a category. Now you'll have to get longshots on 51 guns in a row. I hope it won't be too repetitive and boring for you.
Best of luck!
Hey, bro why don’t you just finished the Orion unlock for all guns first then when shipment drops you go for the other ones?
Shoot house does feel a lot more annoying to grind as so many people abuse the truck headglitch, and overall pace feels very weird, and spawn does not help either.
But it is the fastest mode to grind out a gun as of right now so there is nothing i can do.
if they somehow make shipment bad it would be very annoying.
No one is doing long shots
@@themustardcat1415 Sniper longshots in GW, Tier 1 for everything else was fine
@@kcramthun6 i have to get that optic for that tells you fucking meters ahahh if i’m going to use tier 1
Since there are new weapons out, can we choose to skip 3 weapons in favour if the new ones? I’m about 20 gold camos in and would rather not do a few of the launchers if I can use another one to get to the 51?
Yes but there is a bug right now where the DLC weapons aren’t counting towards overall Orion progression
Isn't shipment scheduled for December 15?
What attachments are you using on your m13?
whats ur victus attachements?
It's because in mw:19 the camo challenges were unlocked following a "natural" pattern, i mean, yes 800 kills are a lot, same for headshots and crouch kills, but you do those by naturally playing the game, only thing you had to care for was mounted kills and no attachments kills, but other then that you could basically unlock gold by playing the game normally.
Here is different because you unlock more challenges once you get other golds/plats, meaning that you only need to complete a single challenge most of the times.
Like when you complete golds on ar and you go for plats, you have to grind only longshot with every ar so it's more frustrating and inneficent compared to mw:19 where you allways grinded more then a single challenge every time (except for a few cases). So yeah when golds are much easyer to get then before, other camos require quite a lot of times and patience because you end up grinding the same challenge but for different weapons over and over
If you would have unlocked the gold camo then do the kills then move on to next weapon and repeat until Orion you would more than likely felt satisfied
What are the endless black guns? I’ve seen so many people with them but never unlocked them
It's one of the Gun Screen options under customization. You get it from the battle pass
i want to see what you get for getting all weapon mastery’s before even going for it i already have orion tho
I grind shoothouse 24/7 for about 100h the last days. Camos only and it’s „ok“.
But it seems I’m very very slow to level up weapons. I’m rank 190 and not even close to have every weapon max ..
This is my first time going for the mastery camo and it is fairly simple but leveling sucks and for me personally I will probably only go for the mastery challenge on guns I really like unless they have a camo after finishing it.
honestly i dont think that shoothouse is any better or worse, i think its the players
I some way I kinda like this version of shot house because not many people don’t want to play it, the last thing that I want is that the multiplayer become just a weapon levelling simulator like in the past 2 and a half years. I know that shipment and shot house make the grind even more straightforward, but I just feel something wrong with having a 24/7 playlist only for shipment and shothouse.
The only thing that needs to chang imo is the tier 1, at list they need to put the emblems when you complete the challenges
long-shots is what’s demoralizing me rn
The first paragraph of this I was literally yelling "FACTS" it's kinda sad
Have all AR’s, smgs, battlerifles, lmgs, and snipers platinum. 3 pistols gold, marksman rifles still all just need the gold challenge. Shotguns all about level 3-5, haven’t even touched the melee. Stills feels like I’m so far away from Orion
I've got ar and smg Plat but now doing marks. And I'm having issues lmao any tips?
Das Haus is the best version of shoothouse hands down
I couldn’t agree w u more, I got damascus in mw and on every single weapon w the exception of the dual kodacis cus of the player base rn but I also got obsidian on 11 weapons, however when I unlocked plantnium and gold for the so 14 - istg I have never wanted to kill myself even more cus that shit was sooooo asss even worse than getting all the launchers platinum and I’m just convinced that this game does anything it can to make the challenges u need to complete a lot more difficult than within a necessary match
I’m still working on plat right now but I’m taking it slower and as soon as I get Gold on a gun I knock out the 100 kills for that mastery so that way once I get orion I’ve finished everything else. Launchers are taking the longest though.
What sniper is that?
A few things to mention, I have about 28 gold guns unlocked except I’ve been going the route of doing the complete weapon tree and completing camo’s that way rather than going through every gun in the category. I’m sure it’s not different, as you end up with the same result. Second point, I’m surprised we haven’t received a 2x weapon XP weekend yet, considering the game has been out for a month and we’ve had weekends in past cod games seems like within a week or two of launch. I’ve already burn through all my free weapon XP from battle pass or from purchase of the game, and now I feel like my progress in terms of levelling guns has been reduced. Really need that free weekend like ASAP.
You can do contracts in warzone then spend the money you got from the contracts on armor plates while holding your gun, I leveled up half of the weapons in one day to max by doing this method.
Tier 1 mode is hardcore.
Also, I haven't had this much fun playing CoD since BO2. I've never done the camo grind for any CoD, other than get the 2-3 guns i enjoy the most gold, and that's about it. I just finished getting all AR's platinum. Now, other than having to sweat almost every game (which i tbh dont mind, I'm fine with sweating but I'm not an elite player), I'm having a blast!
From what I understand tier 1 is the realism mode from MW with lower health
@@TechnicallyWild I thought Hardcore was just a mode with increased bullet damage, friendly fire, lower health, and no HUD? That's what Tier 1 is whenever I play it.
@@Redd_270 Hardcore mode has 30 health (100 is standard) You still have a limited hud with hit markers and a few other added setting like no health regen.
Realism had no hud at all, no hit markers, no kill feed, but the damage profiles still stayed to same everyone had 100 health except head shots were an insta kill regardless of range or gun
@@TechnicallyWild So basically Tier 1 is like an in between? Or like, hardcore mode but with no HUD at all and extremely slow health regen. Tbh, I've played all 3 of these modes and they are way too similar in my eyes apart from 1 little change here or there.
@@Redd_270 Hardcore and Realism got merged into one single mode. Taking the best features from each and blending them into one.
Man what is tha m13 class he's using?
How do u get the 3rd calling card in your showcase
You get a code with a purchase of MWII Kontrol Freaks
Also what’s the better faster way to compete the grind? I’ve been doing each category gold, then getting platinum, then moving onto the next. I completed snipers, marksman’s, Launchers, A’R’s, Smg’s. Should I continue this strategy or does anyone have a better ?
The best way I found was get gold on everything in a category and do the long shots asap. I can’t even imagine the pain of doing 51 guns worth of long shots in a row. Do the hardest weapons first since you never have to do them again and it’s easier to climb a hill all at once then slide down at the end rather then climb, fall, climb, fall
@@TechnicallyWild thanks man I appreciate it
Nearly have all guns gold just got to finish launchers, pistols, shotguns and whatever is left for my melee
Im waiting for shipment so I can get my double javelin kills and be done. The grind this year just felt like a job , was harder to enjoy than usual.
Usw smoke an melee whit the jokr
Wait till shipment arrives . Grind will be much easier and faster . I’m ranking all guns to just require 3 kills and waiting for shipment .
Dude these camo grinds are fucking killing my soul
I spent the entire video agreeing with your annoyances in MW2. Thanks for making this :)
Longshots is worse than medieval torture
Can you use a dlc weapon to replace something?
Yes, but it's currently bugged and is not tracking properly
this video perfectly explains how I feel about the game rn
I think in mw 2019 shoot house it was 5v5 not 6v6 and it feels like the enemies hold hands I've frequently see 3 together
It was only 5v5 on the shoothouse and shipment Playlist. The other game modes were still 6v6 since s&d rotated there
Nobody knows what we get. But before the game came out they did say you do get something for completing everything for the weapons
I’m trying to do the mastery for the camos as I unlock them. I realize it’ll be harder when I unlock polyatomic. But I’ve gotten gold mastery on 4/5 of my gold guns. Trying to do platinum mastery for the ARs before I move on. I’m slowly leveling up other stuff but it’s slow doing the mastery’s
When you were talking about the mastery camo requirements for mw2019, i was flabbergasted, i have damascus but i dont remember it being that frustraiting? Mw2 just doesnt feel right, most of the time i wanna pull out my hair, also ye the head glitches at the truck on shoot house are insane, i got half of my weapons gold just from that headglitch, i just throw down a trophy system and wait the wholr damn game, i usually get 6 kills without dying and suddenly the kills stop because the enemy team decided to go through another lane or camp themselves, which peobably is sooo fucking fustraiting having a section of the map blocked... great video btw
Yeah the mw19 felt like the challenges were harder but was far more enjoyable ): this game just promotes camping with the super fast ttk and is annoying to be aggressive given the lethals and tactical being downright abuse towards other players.
I honestly love the camo grind in this game. I don’t really have any reasonable complaints lol. But I also don’t really like shoothouse.
What was the build on that M13
-M13
Muzzle: Echoline GS-X
Barrel: 7" Bruen B-M20
Laser: 7MW Canted
Stock: Bruen Flash V4 Stock
Magazine: 60 Round Mag
when i start plat and use gold going for longshots does it count to the gold mastery challenge for the charm?
I’m just going as goes, I’m getting 51 guns gold first, which I have already done about 20, the. Platinum challenges and so on and so fourth.
Any tips on motivating yourself to do the orion grind?
Once you are done the grind you never have to do it ever again. It takes some motivation. Climb that hill and once you’re at the top you have nothing left to climb and can relax and play how ever you want. Plus you get a exclusive reward
@@TechnicallyWild aaand, the earlier you get it, the longer it lasts.
@@TechnicallyWild thanks man
Relatable
Indeed
Thats why I made the decision after I unlock orion im done. Just want to have fun and be done with the grind
I will do my camo grind slowly as always nowadays. Not going to play shipment or shoot house at all. Imo those maps just take away the grind as people just rush the camos in those maps and after that complain they don't have anything to do in the game. I don't really care anymore if I see someone has those camos as I know they most likely just played 2 maps for hours to get em.
Hardcore is going to be your best friend… “tier 1” list to those who don’t know. I got the camo in about 3-3 1/2 weeks… Goodluck to the rest of yall
I cant wait to do 51 weapons in a row for longshots